We Deserve More Mentally Ill Protagonists In Triple-A Games

WE NEED MORE of Ganker! WE need YOU!

>Honest, dark, difficult portrayals of characters that struggle with mental illness are gaining traction in the mainstream, and that’s a good thing for everyone. People with mental illnesses see their stories told and truly understood, instead of playing for a cheap redemption arc with little to no substance or payoff. Neurotypicals can truly understand what it’s like to live with mental illness, instead of just having the vague knowledge that people are depressed or anxious, treating it like an inconvenience for those around them.

>The Last of Us Part 2 focuses heavily on Ellie’s grief and likely PTSD, showing her displaying symptoms like flashbacks and hyperarousal. God of War Ragnarok makes a subplot out of Freya’s grief about losing her son, one that I found underwhelming. Dark Souls games are sometimes interpreted to be about depression. A Plague Tale: Requiem protagonist Amicia is also stricken with what seems to be PTSD. I could go on. The point is, plenty of protagonists struggle with grief and PTSD, which is very overrepresented when it comes to mental illness in video games. It’s far rarer to see games dig into illnesses like depression, schizophrenia, and personality disorders, but this is where indie games carry the industry.

https://www.thegamer.com/we-deserve-more-mentally-ill-protagonists-triple-a-games-last-of-us-2-hellblade-senuas-sacrifice/

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >But of course, most triple-A games don’t see mental illnesses as a viable story to tell. PTSD and trauma are easier to fit into a story because they usually happen as a consequence of a major event or bloody occurences of violence, but it’s harder to squeeze thirty hours of gameplay out of a protagonist who is too sad to get out of bed, struggles with substance abuse, or recognises they have a personality disorder and wants to get help. The mundane reality of people who understand that they have a problem and that they have to get help to fix it, through whatever means that might be, doesn’t fit in well with the world of triple-A gaming. But that’s a shame, because these stories are compelling to audiences precisely because they are such human stories. Everybody struggles, and so too should our protagonists. It’s because they struggle that we feel for them, and those stories deserve to be told as much as anything else.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >These stories aren't actually compelling but that's exactly why they're compelling!

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      AAA games are meant to make money, not tell niche stories. I actually understand and think that characters like that have a place in the right context, but games about depressed characters who can't get out of bed in the morning aren't going to sell millions of copies with normies who just want to unwind with an action title. I haven't played AAAshit in years because I don't like it either, I find them really dull, but I don't mind one bit that lately I've resorted to playing more indie and mid-budget titles.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't leftists just be fricking normal for once?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Representation is one thing but why are they fetishizing and romanticizing mental illness? That's what teenagers do with Romeo & Juliet

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AAA Games
    Already a horrible waste of a thread. KYS

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kai from Heavenly Sword is the first playable autistic main character in a video game but Ninja Theory never bothered to call attention to it because they thought people would figure that out on their own.

    Apparently they were wrong. She is still a landmark character in the medium.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      And of course you can't forget American McGee's Alice, gaming's first schizophrenic protagonist.

      those games are trash though

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        alice isnt trash youre just BROWN

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm white thoughbeit

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            proofs? your sharty speak makes you even more suspect. post hand or GTFO

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        nah you suck

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't talk shit about Alice

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    And of course you can't forget American McGee's Alice, gaming's first schizophrenic protagonist.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It WOULD make sense considering the rise of mental illness in America.

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >let's celebrete mental illness
    leftists really ruined video games, pic related the author. That's why i will never touch a game about muh mental issues, i will never touch that commie game, last of us etc.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I could save them

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      They is really pretty.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      t. schizo

      >More than 1 in 5 US adults live with a mental illness. Over 1 in 5 youth (ages 13-18) either currently or at some point during their life, have had a seriously debilitating mental illness. About 1 in 25 U.S. adults lives with a serious mental illness, such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, or major depression.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is this actual mental illness or what the current mental health community/industry calls mental illness. Because I can say with 100% honesty and with first hand experience that we’re being lied to about a good portion of this shit.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the gamer
      >real person
      I'm actually surprised, their articles put even Kotaku and whatever the gaming version of Buzzfeed was called to shame. It's literally indistinguishable from ai

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      BANE?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Singapore
      That country is like 70% conservative Chinese and most of the rest are literal Muslims. That's like being a feminist in Eastern Europe. She won't be like that long.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      They kinda cute, doe.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >chronically online
      Of course

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus Christ why dont they just read a book then? No , make a boring af game instead.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The journalists want mentally ill protagonists so they can relate.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    But TLOU 2 had Abby though?

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being a leftist really is about accruing as many identity points as possible.

    >I am an indigenous, queer, schizophrenic, suicidal, queef huffer

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >journalists deserve more mentally ill protagonists in triple-slop games
    That's correct.

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine your entire world being AAA western games and a few popular indies so you have to demand representation from big corporations because you're too much of a pussy to seek it out on your own. Imagine how miserable that must be

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mario is an autistic transman.

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can fix her.

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Considering people continue to buy this slop, I agree, you do deserve more mentally ill protagonists.

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >haha imagine liking games about mentally ill people, amirite fellow schizokino fans?

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do we though? Pretty much all videogame protagonist are mentally ill schizo murderers.

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amnesia is a mental disorder and is a meme at this point for being so overused.

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was Harry really mentally ill, or just a drunk?

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    dude

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do leftists worship disease?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      One goes hand in hand with the other.

      And of course you can't forget American McGee's Alice, gaming's first schizophrenic protagonist.

      dude

      Yep! Especially that it was an fitting and creative take on the original story and mental illness wasn't just forced into for the sake for it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      the more you have wrong with you, the harder life should be in theory, and having harder lives than others for reasons out of your control is the number one most valuable thing in the entire world to people like that.

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a depressed autistic man the last thing I want to fricking do is play as a depressed or autistic person

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    bro

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >BROdy
      Bravo Ubisoft

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    By the measure of a modern leftist, nearly every video game protagonist in history is mentally ill.

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah give me some autist schizo who thinks he's being gangstalked. That would go over well...

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Harry just talks to himself

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did someone say PTSD?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      When people say PTSD they don’t mean the flashback regret kind. They mean the panic attack crying kind that makes them “relatable”.

  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gaming. Needs. More. Realistic. Panic. Attacks.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can someone explain to me whats up with the rise in romanticizing panic attacks as of late?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Victimhood, in out current society being a victim is seen as ennobling and good for a varying number of reasons. So people strive to find some sort of issue in order to say they’re oppressed.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's an "I win" button for getting sympathy or making someone else look bad for triggering you.

  30. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >best schizo protagonist in modern video games
    >game flops

  31. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    you don't understand bro, I've got it so hard you've got no idea. I'm a good person bro, it's just I have 14 mental conditions, isn't that pretty neat? they give me all these pills too!

  32. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why more mentally ill protagonists instead of well adjusted ones, or at least normal ones with some type of problem to solve?

    It would help people understand better what they should strive to be more like and react in similar type of situations, whether they're under stress, or scared or whatever else.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because in our current society there is a monopoly/race with victimhood, so instead of looking at mental illness and trauma as problems to be overcome. They wear them as badges of honor to be flaunted in order to show that they’re a victim too.

  33. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would I want to play a game about a depressed autistic when I can experience that by just living my life

  34. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    just play xcom, there's panic attacks for everyone

  35. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    They say this but not sure they really mean it. A sanitized version of real mental illness maybe.

  36. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >More Mentally Ill Protagonists
    So they want them all to be gays, dykes, or troons from now on? I've had enough of them already.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >make gay/troony protagonist
      >make a big deal how they’re mentally ill
      Why do they always seem to shoot themselves in the foot? They’re so engrossed in trying to push as much as this shit in as possible that they don’t think. How is this going to look? Personally I don’t care because that shit is funny, but I still feel it should be pointed out and examined.

  37. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    i’ve noticed the media has been working to romanticize mental illness for quite sometime now and a lot of young people are self diagnosing themselves with a bunch of crap. disgusting

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It really is, the mental health community /industry is fricking vile. They do some of the most unethical shit I’ve ever seen.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Had a really interesting convo with a psychiatrist-turned-GP the other day, off the back of a consultation with a mentally-ill patient. The tl;dr of it was: people are now incorporating diagnoses into their personality, even basing their entire persona around "I'm autistic", "I'm trans", or "I have fibromyalgia". They have absolutely zero interest in working to overcome their symptoms because we are rewarding them with sympathy (and money) for being frickups. We're also no longer stigmatizing semi-voluntary shit like "stimming", we're even encouraging it.

      I'm seriously concerned about this shift. I don't think this does people any favors in the long run.

  38. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    bruh they be collecting mental illnesses like pokemon

  39. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >PTSD grief sadness hugbox sadfeels with a side of adoptive father simulator
    boring and overdone, don't care
    >trying to make me feel bad for killing pixels because my character feels bad
    it's not going to work, we just gunned down 57 people in 15 minutes to go down 3 blocks. There's even a total kill counter in the menu and it's got 4+ digits.

    >layer upon layer of unreliable schizo narration that makes you want to replay the entire game with the knowledge gleaned from near the ending
    that's the shit
    >extreme narcissist manipulating people around them to achieve separate amoral ends that go against the otherwise unfolding traditional narrative
    pretty good too, so long as they're not just GTA main character level wacky bad guy stuff.

  40. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
  41. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can we stop classifying panic attacks as PTSD

  42. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    they are right theaux. all the greatest dramas ever made feature multiple mentally ill people. if youre going to have a character driven game it makes sense.

  43. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, Im sick of LGBTP representation.

  44. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah I also enjoy when my character can only step on the dark tiles on the floor and has to tap his temple twice everytime he walks through a door

  45. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    can we seriously just like separate video games from whatever it is these people want and let them have their own new medium? they can call "interactive video art" or something. we get our fun escapism, they get their tryhard pseudshit, everyone's happy.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      They don't want their own medium. They don't want to be happy. They want you to be miserable.

  46. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any autistic protags?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any game where you control your character.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous
  47. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoyed when I could play my Inquisitor as crazy schizo in SWTOR.

  48. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where is my incel protagonist who hates women then? these people don't want representation for everyone just themselves

  49. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look at these loser homosexuals. They worship weakness, disease, failure, vulnerability, and dependence.
    They are slaves to the core, and deserve the suffering they wallow in.

  50. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't triple A games go out of their ways to future self-castrating eunuchs in their roster nowadays? Isn't that, like, the epitome of mental illness?

    >Indies: Booh I drink a lot and I'm sad.
    >AAA: b***h I'm a eunuch that decided to castrate myself.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      nice quints

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      name literally ONE(+one more)

  51. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mentally ill protagonists can be interesting sure, pic related from drakengard.

    But can't we just get wholesome or fun masculine role models again please? Not because of any moral grandstanding reasons or anything, I don't think evil, mentally ill, or morally ambiguous protagonists are "heckin' problematic sweetie" or anything like that, but more just because I'm bored of games being fricking miserable reminders of how awful reality is. Some escapism could do the world some wonders right now. Hell, you can even make them non white males if it triggers the frick out of you that they're white for some stupid reason, Lee from Telltale's The Walking Dead was actually kind of a nice person to play as, he was kind of a father figure for clementine.

    I just want a fricking golden retriever boy protagonist again, not a joss whedon idea of a good person where they're constantly making cringey quips, I'm talking about a powerful, capable character who's also somewhat naively nice and friendly with no ulterior motives other than just wanting to help people, a person who's not "morally grey" but just an all around swell person either as a protagonist or a supporting cast. I've had my fill of morally ambiguous, mentally ill protagonists, you can make more if you want, I'm not a twitter user or a shitty gaming journalist who's gonna REEEEEEE at you annoyingly for not doing it, but can't I just have a break and see something in games that warms my wounded heart for a bit that helps me forget about the nightmare that is how awful real people and real world problems are?

    These journos are so concerned about how video games might negatively influence people that that they never stop to consider how an unrealistic standard might positively influence people by giving people something to at least try to strive for and meet at least halfway. This is how superheros used to work before the MCU made everything become "cape shit" instead of "cape fun".

  52. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't stand people simping for mentally ill characters
    Also mental illnesses in media often come together with ow the edge as if they are targeted towards children

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