we know that Cynthia is the strongest champion but who is the strongest Elite4 trainer?
Wish one of them has a realistic chance to achieve Champion status?
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>we know that Cynthia is the strongest champion
>>>>>>>[citation needed]
Her BDSP team, her having a lvl 88 etc.
#1 champion
kierans a champion and has a level 90 terapagos
>kierans a champion
he isnt, not a real one. He also lost badly to a real champion
Dont mention that incel alongside true champions
>a level 90 terapagos
Temporarily, until it left him.
Its not part of any of his permanent teams, because he couldnt earn its trust or power.
>he isnt, not a real one
Yes he is
cynthiatroons just cannot accept reality can they?
>He also lost badly to a real champion
So did every single character who is not the main protagonist
>So did every single character who is not the main protagonist
Wrong, "every single character" didnt lose to Nemona on-screen
That loss cemented that kieran is well below champion-level NPCs
why are you moving the goalposts?
Let me solo her.
>Let me solo her.
>Cynthia = Malenia
hot
>level = strength
Yes, Cynthia and Red are meant to be the 2 strongest npcs (even if Reds teams arent quite there yet in terms of competitive strength and IV/EV/items)
Also confirmed by Masters
Stop using Masters as a confirmation of anything. They throw around grand titles all the time that are meaningless fluff.
cope
They call Korrina and Gloria the fiercest fighter for a fancy medal. They call Bede the reigning rival for a medal. It's meaningless fluff you've either been brainwashed, or have been trying to brainwash others, into taking seriously when it's just meant to sound cool.
gets beaten by a gen 9 incel
dude leon is mid in terms of strength and champions
>b-but the ani-
were not talking about the anime
>87
>the gen 9 incel canonically lost to an itemless meme champion
>who is the strongest Elite4 trainer?
gen 1 E4 Lance - he actually became champion later
among those E4 that didnt become champions - maybe Drake or Lucian or Paldeas E4 (since they can have several champion ranks, so its easier)
didn't the last big israelitetube AI battle sim have all gen 8 and 9 NPCs at the top? and then Lucian was the highest ranked trainer not from those gens? idk
Which one
Drayden. Lance also was E4 and reached champion status.
Gameplay-wise - BDSP E4 rematches and Indigo Disk E4 rematches are far above everything else .. lore-wise who knows
Does prior BB Champion Dryten count?
I think E4 like Drake, Lucian, Molayne or Hassel have a chance.
>kierancels
thread ruined
Answering for each gen
>Gen 1
Lance, it happened
>Gen 2
Though Koga and Bruno both show motivation to move up the ranks, I think Karen's team is stronger
>Gen 3
Drake, stronger and more diverse team than Glacia (between RS and ORAS) who I think would be the only two with interest in becoming champion. It's sad this gen had E4 members with non-fully evolved Pokemon
>Gen 4
No strong opinions. Lucian maybe?
>Gen 5
Marshal, he trained under and looked up to Alder so would have the motivation to go for it. I don't think any other members have interest in champion status, though Caitlin would step up if Marshal didn't
>Gen 6
No strong opinion
>Gen 7
In SM, Hala, if only to inspire Hau to become champion
In USUM, Molayne, a strong team though I don't really think any member is aspiring to be champion
>Gen 8
Raihan, I think the game mentioned he's champion quality
>Gen 9
Hassel, stronger team and I think would be happy to take on the responsibility
BB: Drayton since he was ex-champ
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If you don’t count powercrept nugen garbage, then Lucian is the strongest E4 member.
Also Volkner is the strongest gym leader and obviously Cynthia is the strongest champion.
This proves Platinum had the best designed important trainer teams
>strongest gym leader
Giovani
who is the strongest rival then?
Paul
Volkner is definitely up there.....It would be a shame though if i were to cause a certain quake though.....
I always thought it must've felt awkward for gigaboomer Koga, but considering that SV has a literal babby as an E4 trainer I stopped thinking about it.
He's not THAT old, he has a teenage daughter. And he's probably just proud to have reached such a high rank, even if it took him so long and so much effort.
>Leon
Leongays are more annoying than Cynthiagays, at least they have reasons to simp.
>Leongays
dont exist here
xhe is just baiting because seeing Cynthia in the OP triggered them
The only one who ever stuck out to me was Karen. I had more trouble fighting her than Lance but maybe I just didn't have fighting type moves
* Red is the most powerful Trainer
* Leon is the most powerful Champion
* Lance is the most powerful E4
* Blue and Raihan are the most powerful Gym Leaders
>Red is the most powerful Trainer
>when he only has shitmons
>Leon is the most powerful Champion
only in Galar* (maybe)
with a joke rematch team**
and a gym leader level rival***
>Red is the most powerful Trainer
if Cynthia and protags didnt exist he would be
How many antidepressants do Cynthiatards take to cope with the fact that Leon is the most powerful Champion in video games and anime?
I look like thid but with a better jaw line
>Gen 1
Lance did became a champion. Agatha was also the rival of a former champion so she must be pretty up there too.
>Gen 2
Karen is the one with the most diverse team and the power of friendship speech so she'd probably be the best fit. Koga could also work since gym leaders end up as champions more often than E4s.
>Gen 3
They are all pretty underwhelming, probably the dragon guy I guess.
>Gen 4
Flint is the only one with an actual character so probably him but Volkner would honestly make a better champion.
>Gen 5
The black one is the former champion's apprentice but Alder sucks so that doesn't mean much. Caitlin would probably be the most interesting choice both because of her history with the league and her psychic powers.
>Gen6
They are all pretty underwhelming, probably the dragon girl I guess.
>Gen 7
Kahili since she is technically a former champion. Hala and Olivia would also be good choices since Kahunas are plenty strong and do a lot of the community service champions do already.
>Gen 8
They are all pretty underwhelming, probably the dragon guy I guess.
>Gen 9
They are all pretty underwhelming, probably the dragon guy I guess.
None as monotyped teams are completely suicidal in singles
Then make them dual type.
If it were up to me
>Lance
>Koga to have the progression from Gym Leader -> Elite 4 -> Champion
>Drake
>Volkner because he was petty one time and wanted to one-up Flint
>Marshal
>Siebold
>Molayne because it'd be funny to have the PC guy be a champion
>Raihan
>Rika
Iris since she beats Cynthia after becoming Champion
Koga to show the gym leader to champion pipeline.
Kanto is -THE- poison region so it'd be a good fit for a kantonese champion.
Plus he's a ninja, very japanese.
It would be cool to see koga's daughter missing from the poison gym and seeing her as the last elite four member
>if she's here then where's kOHHH SHIT
Flint was Champion tier in the anime. Doesn’t count for the games but it’s a fun tidbit
Why is Kahili the only one rendered?
if strength is based off of people jerking off and cumming to her then yeah she's the strongest.
She's got the S Tier cum power