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what has unknown worlds been doing for the past six years after this game?
writing black lesbian stories
subnautica 3.
theyve posted teasers and hints about it.
what we know so far is that its done in unreal instead of unity and that it will feature volumetric water so it can be displaced and presumably has physics so it can fill gaps and caves and things like that.
Also that it will feature 4 player co-op, which seems cool. But that it will be a live service game, which is gay. I know the devs said it won't be, but it sounds more like a backpedal. The devs are owned by Krafton now, they simply do not release games where you pay $20 to $60 and their business with you is concluded.
yeah it s worrisome. i really like just buying a game completely with no strings attached.
>but that it'll be live service
That turned out to be a frickup of an interview with their publisher, the Subnautica devs had to put out a "our publisher is moronic, sorry" series of tweets about it.
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1755674941830152302
tl;dr, the wording that was meant to be used is "it's like the first game, except multiplayer." "live service" just means it'll keep getting updates and fixes like the first game did.
I guess the publisher isn't savvy enough to know that the term "live service" is an immediate black mark on PR with games like this.
Not that I enjoy defending IGN in any way but what's with all the morons mad at IGN for reporting on the publisher's frick up and demanding that they remove the earlier tweet?
that's a complete lie. it was an investor call. you can't just 'uwu frick up" at an investor call. every single word is weighed carefully since it can induce legal liability for the execs.
That's cool and all but I don't think that's really necessary. What they should be focusing on is;
>better performance
>better draw distance, no pop-in as you travel around
>less wacky creature design, more realistic predatory stealthy creatures
>multiplayer (but you said they're working on that)
Those were my only complaints of Subnautica
>a multiplayer GaaS
DoA it will be even worse than below zero
That was a false report by IGN
>volumetric water so it can be displaced and presumably has physics so it can fill gaps and caves and things
But the game is underwater
Probably gonna have more flooding mechanics for your base and sub.
>physics-based water
>in subnautica
dev PCs pic related, this shit will melt every rig since they're also fricking awful at optimization
>and that it will feature volumetric water so it can be displaced and presumably has physics
kek didn't they frick the performance of the first game because they wanted deformable terrain but couldn't get it working right
Yeah. They attempted to do damage control with a terrain modifying gimmick yet failed even at that lmao
Nope. I was laughing because the degree itself gets you almost nowhere
>volumetric water in UE5
Man Subnautica 3 is going to be a disaster. Even if they get the story straight, there's no way that won't be unoptimized as all hell.
>Even if they get the story straight
That's a big if
>Even if they get the story straight
>"Unknown Worlds Entertainment is an American video game developer based in San Francisco"
no, unfortunately, they're going to get the story gay
All those special effects weren't needed to make Subnautica 1 good. They just need to lay off the stubborn progressive pandering and return to making a quasi-horror underwater survival game. Not trying to make a quirky story about a black lesbian trying to find her black lesbian sister.
not just that but
>over-explaining all the mysteries from the first game
>cramped shitty map
>the constant fricking chatter in a game thats trying to convey a feeling of isolation
>the seatruck fricking sucks compared to the cyclops
also the temperature mechanic that does fricking nothing but slow you down slightly"oop, gotta warm up, better stand next to this conveniently placed living heater for a few moments"
They can do whatever they want as much as they want, I'm not buying anything from them anyway.
Firing the staff that made the game good in the first place. It's why 2 was a hot mess, especially the story.
oh yeah, they had a good story for below 0and cancelled the writer. huge mistake.
It was the sound designer that got fired.
The writer left, likely due to internal pressure because he didn't want to have so much dialogue and handholding.
Same guy went on to write The Talos Principle, so I hope someone at UWE hanged themselves in shame after letting him go.
there's a second game? I just thought they kept adding updates to 1, apparently that game is popular for modding
>I just thought they kept adding updates to 1
The most recent big update was just backporting stuff from the 2nd game into the 1st
Your probably thinking of fans making mods, there's some pretty neat ones out there from what I've seen
The characters were so fricking lame too. Trying to suspend disbelief was impossible.
I don't know why they chose to carry over the most unlikable character from the logs in Subnautica 1
They made bellow zero which was just underwater forspoken.
They made a turn based strategy game which absolutely nobody played.
And now they're making another subnautica game because they got bought by some Chinese publisher for the IP.
Why does it take an entire console generation to develop games now? Fromsoft is the only studio that actually makes games faster than once every five years
>Yakuzzy studios
kys
surely developing Natural Selection 3
Natural Selection 1 and 2 were good games. WERE being the operative word of course. UWE was a good developer once.
"We don't want to work on NS2 anymore because of mass shootings" was the weirdest hill to die on.
Subnautica specifically seemed like an accident though. Wasn't there an article just released that they said they didn't mean for the sea monsters and exploring the depths to be unsettling and scary?
NS2 was never good. Flayra is a fricking moron who fricked a legendary mod with the worst game design possible.
NS2 was great in its initial release before they started adding mountains of unnecessary bullshit.
It's truly prescient that their first major update was for the Bloat.
No, NS2 was fricked from the start. 2 commanders required to get a simple game running, instead of the 1 commander and one abstract gorge-centric base building system for the aliens. Flayra was always a fricking moron who never understood why people played NS1.
>No, NS2 was fricked from the start. 2 commanders required to get a simple game running, instead of the 1 commander and one abstract gorge-centric base building system for the aliens. Flayra was always a fricking moron who never understood why people played NS1.
god I miss NS1
what a fricking kino game and time to be alive
I even loved the co_ maps
I would rack up hundreds of kills with focus fade + regen
Don't forget the massive pandering to compgays with every balance change, while pubs would sit at 60% winrate for Aliens for most of the game's active lifespan
>we're going to buff lerks because we really like them uhhh okay?
>but we're going to nerf every other life form into the ground
>we're also going to nerf shotguns because it feels bad to get shottied as a lerk
>also we made dual railgun exos a thing except oops now lerks are soft countered by the ENDGAME TECH THAT COSTS 80 PRES so we're actually going to gut railgun exos and buff lerks some more
>oh man every pub game is now decided at 4 minutes by lerks how could this have happened???
Add in making the UI objectively worse each time they change it, along with breaking every mod that was previously usable, and I just lost all interest to keep playing. I actually reinstalled for the first time in years a couple weeks ago, played a few matches, and was so fricking bored of how nothing seems to have changed in all that time of "community balance patches".
literally the whole industry.
i begin to believe there is like 12 people knowing how to make games in the whole market. and they rotate from company to company every year or so.
companies quit offering pensions and so now everyone just hops around every 2-3 years
by the time people figure out how to do actually work a technical job with some degree of understanding, another company is offering them a better salary
Dev studios don't get royalties these days as incentive to stick around to reap the benefits of hopefully a good selling title, so once the project is done, people are ready to hop to wherever is offering the most money or projects of interest.
>>Dev studios don't get royalties
what a moronic market
Nah its just monkeys on typewriters all the way down
It's why none of these morons can ever repeat their success
The only people that can repeat success are those that deliberately keep some of their good ideas hidden away for later.
Pretty much everyone only has a handful of good ideas their entire life.
The problem is that people overcommit and put every good idea they ever had into a project and leave nothing for themselves in the future.
Always keep at least one card close to your chest to play later.
its not even about ideas imo, it's about chemistry among the devs and a particular environment/timeframe forcing them to improvise instead of pursue moronic boondoggles
change a single variable and the game never happens or comes out an abomination
often just the cash infusion and fame from releasing a great accident ensures they'll never replicate that success
So how come Subnautica is STILL the only open world ocean exploring with monsters(not sharks) game?
I would love for a game like Subnautica, with the horror aspects/atmosphere of Soma
Darkest Dungeon thread?
Just like darksouls and Bayo.
100% fluke
It wasn't an accident, the first team knew what made the game fun.
Then the guy in charge left for the 2nd team and they fired their spooky sound guy because he made an anti immigration tweet about europe.
The only guy left for the sequel was some literal California homosexual and he had no fricking clue what made the first game good and added sheboons and lesbian storylines to a game where everyone just wanted to build an ocean base and use their underwater submarine base and replaced it with the gay Black person sea truck
*Then the guy in charge of the first game left and they fired their spooky sound guy because he made an anti immigration tweet about europe.
i edited the sentence and forgot to remove the incoherrent part
The anti-immigration stuff is a red flag, not an opinion like ice cream flavors. A team is less likely to have trouble with a person who has empathy for low tier people than one who outright views them are mindless vermin.
I thought they fired the sound guy over the attack helicopter joke which made twitter trannies seethe just because he dared to not be reverent towards their cult?
>we made a good game
No you didn't.
>Good game
uhm you just can't craft weapons and kill the carnivores who want you dead because... trump and guns bad!!!
This artwork is great and I will explain to you now why its scary
>The colors
Red is color indicating danger, many dangerous animals wear bright red or bright colors to warn predators that they mean business. Also the black background and dark lighting triggers the fear of the unknown that was instilled into our ancestors brains from a time we were all hurdling together at campfires
>The reaper
The reaper itself has a scary design. The mandibles especially are reminiscing of spiders as do the black eyes. Also the maw given so much detail just makes you believe it his hopeless and there is no escape
this might as well be how my primitive ape brain perceived reapers despite them being dumb, glitchy, easily exploited AI snakes
these c**ts are genuinely the scariest thing in any video game I've ever played and i cannot explain why
Them being dumb is exactly why they are so scary. At least the ghost and sea dragon leviathans have some semblance of intelligence where you can understand why they attack you.
Their roar and the fact that they are the first leviathans you usually come across, also doesn't help.
Testicle chin
>exploring in my moth far from my base
>"Oh that looks interesting"
>this c**t comes up and slaps my moth's ass
>don't play game ever again
Frick you snake.
They made a failed warhammer-esque digital figure game and the next Subnautica game will be live service lol lmao
it was an easy concept carried by its novelty.
I'm hopeful this game can surpass it. Already a good foundation.
how does that game relate in any way to underwater survival?
it looks like a generic post apocalyptic crafting survival game with looter shooter elements.
that is not at all what i want out of a subnautica clone.
>looter shooter elements
What? It's very obviously subnautica inspired. It's just taking place in the air instead of underwater. Same focus on a bizarre environment, scientific research and solving mysteries.
If you just want another underwater survival game the only alternative is this, which is more like Rust. https://youtu.be/rKK3DzWIUYA
Needs a random map generator.
Daily reminder that the only reason the game does not feature firearms is the fact the developers are lefties. IIRC 2 models were already made on top of light scripting before they dumped the entire thing which is very funny because freezing something completely then stabbing it 100 times with a red hot futuristic heat knife is arguably far worse than using a plasma cannon to blow it's head off
why do I need a gun in the game?
I prefer using a drill anyway
to stand your ground. the entire scary aspect of the game withers away after about 1 hour on average because the player realizes that 1. enemies do not deal enough damage to kill the player in 1 hit and 2. the enemy path finding is moronic. i literally did loops around reaper leviathians with a fricking seamoth because they are unable to maneuver correctly lmao. all they can do is clip thru the map because draw distances in-game are very bad even for hit boxes and collisions
enough games have guns I think
> enough games have swords/axes/spears/mauls I think
What the frick kind of homosexual are you???
Stab them to death.
yeah bro just stand there like a cuck for 2 minutes while attempting to aim for the broken hit boxes while switching between the knife and statis rifle every 20 seconds lmao
the map is too small
the precursor shit was very underwhelming
sea emperor ending was a last minute gig that makes no sense
land movement is very fricking bad
draw distances - level of detail
the game is literally just another survival crafting slop but underwater
etc etc
>unreal engine
>better performance
lmao
>the game is already trivialized by shitty AI
>i wish it was even easier
the stasis rifle is stronger than any actual gun would ever be
You have a dozen ways to slaughter everything in the game except the Sea Emperor and her kids, frick your kind's animalistic braying over Subnautica not being Resident Evil 6: Aquatic Boogaloo.
Guns give you a form of self defense meaning you can realistically make enemies more powerful without making them unfair or frustrating. The ideal scenario would be to make them a valuable resource that is only to be used sparingly so you have to make split second decisions on whether to turn your attacker into sushi or to run the frick away.
How can you have a video game without guns?
If a game doesn't have guns, then it's not a game. It's a walking simulator. Or in this case, a swimming simulator.
they were just virtue signaling. they dont even believe their own crap.
the reason they didnt want weapons in the game was so you couldnt just kill the wildlife to trivialize things.
.... you can still kill the wildlife though with torpedoes, with prawn suit punching and even with the survival knife.
>virtue signaling
sub 8's are not virtue signaling, they are just very desperate for female attention. point being the games balance is fricked up everywhere anyway. all it takes is the statis rifle. after that nothing can challenge you
Shoulda had a harpoon gun instead of the stasis rifle
Out of all the shit the game can be criticized on, why do autists pick on gun moronation so much?
Why do you Black folk screech when people say they wanted hunting? It's a reasonable wish.
Americans are very loud and obnoxious when it comes to the gun control debate.
> gun control debate
> debate
Where I live we don't need to register our firearms. Unlike you we don't like other people telling us what objects we can or can not own.
Nice but this is a subnautica thread not a homosexual thread
> not a homosexual thread
If (you) didn't want it to be a homosexual thread, (you) would have closed the browser window and went back to sucking dick like the weak as homie (you)r dad failed to raise correctly.
shut yo b***hazz up zesty ahh mf
Because that was a deliberate choice
Because it's stupid the fact that you can create an underwater habitat but not have the ability to launch lethal projectiles underwater with full intent to kill preditors that actively seek to harm you?
It's a stupid omission that does nothing to service the player while benefiting the virtue-signaling moron that made the gameplay decision.
b***h the game gives you a drill and torpedos, the frick you need an AK for?
I think the game was better without guns. It leaves you exposed to threats for most of the game. Think about when you got the prawn suit, what's the first thing people did? Rodeo a leviathan and drill it to death. If you could cap a leviathan before you even fix the radiation leak it would send the games suspense factor down a trench
Autism. A lot of Americans in particular obsess over guns. Every piece of media they consume and all their interests revolve around it. It's fricking weird.
Its normal for people to latch onto something that isn't actually a problem with the game and pretend that is why the game is bad or shouldn't be played.
Take WoW for example, the game is nearly a skinner box game that has eviscerated it's story completely. But when you read a thread whining about it, they blame the trans character or developer as the main problem.
I don't give a shit, I like the game as it is
let me guess.. both of you have prey eyes
weak cope. stabbing enemies in-game is a fricking chore due to the broken hit boxes and aiming lmao
You have moron eyes
sour grapes LMAO
literally everyone knows that was just a political decision you pseud. look up the game on steam forums
>lose
LMAO. the reaper destroys the seamoth in.. 2? 3? hits and he has a delay between attacks. i vividly remember being able to repair the seamoth then bail before he finished his swimming around animation and became aggressive again lmao. there is no way for the player to lose progress in the game unless he is moronic and makes the cyclops explode - bails into the void. even if the player dies all schematics are kept anyway and only items are lost. the items are saved every single time the player enters a base btw
>basic b***h unreal engine render with upscaled textures from 2014
>amazing
lol
how about instead of making shit up the developers actually made a decent and challenging AI? everything in the game is static including leviathan spawns. you literally cannot get jumped
>basic b***h unreal engine render with upscaled textures from 2014
That's not a render, that's actually from in game.
>what are vertical slices?
holy frick anon.. get a grip or something
>not even the same place
>not even the same daytime
>literally everyone knows that was just a political decision
not according to every thread on /v
That tall guy also has prey eyes.
What the frick is "prey eyes"?
The homosexual has no idea what he's talking about, the reality is prey eyes are on the side of the head to look around for danger (like a deer or rabbit). It doesn't differ between prey eyes and predator eyes in the same species of animal.
> What the frick is "prey eyes"?
You never look at people's facial expressions?
More weaker people tend to hold their gazes at a casual and unfocused resting position.
It's as if they obviously lack a sense of situational awareness, and are only intended to be exploited or consumed.
Oh like this predator is doing on the imagine I'm posting?
> posts a photo of an animal in the midst of a contemplative gaze in attempt to justify the vapid docile eye position that EVERYONE knows weaker people have?
Why are (you) trying to stick up for this...?
https://people.com/ryan-carson-social-justice-advocate-stabbed-death-street-in-front-girlfriend-8346996
>contemplative gaze in
Is that what you're calling it? Well how about this then
> how about this then
homie. The bird has 100% focal awareness that it is the subject of being photographed.
That is not "prey" behavior.
What the original anon was talking about is not what you think we are arguing about.
Beta males literally lack parts of the brain responsible for social awareness. The entire thing is a glorified version of the 'did you eat breakfast today?' meme shows that males are not born equal in any way shape or form
NTA yet alpha fricks beta buxx. There is no reason to do anything when you know someone else is going to do that shit for you anyway. Humans are lazy by default hence trying too hard is beta male behavior. Basically glorified over compensating
meme which* shows
Chad only teehee
Man, those virgins with their prey eyes.
When will it ever start for them?
help are these predator or prey eyes, i need to know if im a chad or not.
>"And now you post yourself online for attention and want to start doing online sex work for a career and stand only to benefit from being a visual dick-pumping agent who probably got raped at said parties at 3am"
The blackpill can be beyond brutal anon. Sooner or later a being will either accept reality or pay the price of ignorance. In both cases a sub 8 will pay a heavy toll
One night stands and questions. I have about 500 pages of truth documented over the course of a few weeks
Dolph Lundgren got kidney cancer and survived because he had connections and money both of which were earned thru his acting career which was spear headed by his height and looks. Dude could have literally completed a chemistry engineering degree yet chose acting instead because that was the path of least resistance. Cope all you want yet at a certain threshold of height and looks you literally cannot fail. Life plays out in front of your eyes no matter what and you get to enjoy everything it unconditionally throws at you
>what role
Reproduction and mating. Biologic beings have 1 mandatory task and if you fail that your organism is quite literally going to fall apart because it cannot cope with the fact you missed out. The lack of sex and physical affection literally shortens lifespans by years on average
Weak cope. Even if all members of a tribe were Brads giga chad would appear sooner or later and dominate them unless said Brads killed him on sight
The audio guy was a cuck anyway. Many of the sounds in-game are reused and/or stock sounds which were slightly edited. He did a decent job with a shoestring budget yet that's about it
>I have about 500 pages of truth documented over the course of a few weeks
Holy shit please upload that fountain of autism.
>Dude could have literally completed a chemistry engineering degree
He did finish it you jackass and he could have survived the kidney cancer without his acting career. Furthermore him getting cancer in the first place can be seen as a sign of that his genes aren't superior. Also kidney cancer is a cancer with a higher survival rate and he's still dealing with it, he isn't cured by any means.
You're right, should have posted a cow instead. But nobody preys on them so why are their eyes on the side?
> why are their eyes on the side?
Because the original post that made you sperg out about the animal kingdom was a post joking about how weak men can be called "prey" because of how they set their eye sight?
I know plenty of dudes with actually lazy eyes that can frick people up, yet I am confused why you keep wanting to defend that atypical "liberal glare".
>Joking
I don't think he was joking
>he did
Not the entire thing. He never made use of that shit anyway
>without acting career
Yeah bro some random mc donalds wagie would surely have the contacts to setup advanced semi-experimental treatments then pay for them up front in full LMAO. His genetics are superior because he adapted. He lived out his 20s - 50s fricking hot chicks while cucks like you were either not born or jacking off alone while studying for meme shit like STEM
>is not cured
His condition is getting better by the week. He has a higher chance of dying due to a car crash by now
>cow
Cows are literally cows. Humans pump and dump them for resources every single day. Bulls are more aggressive yet still end up getting cucked by shit like red cloth lmao
Yeah bro just be a status maxxed hollywood actor. Ez Pz
>In the late 1970s, he enrolled at the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm and graduated in the early 1980s with a degree in chemical engineering
>In 1982, Lundgren graduated with a master's degree in chemical engineering from the University of Sydney.
As you can see he finished it, twice even.
>Yeah bro some random mc donalds wagie
Now why would be work as a McDonald's wagie with a degree in engineering? Also Sweden has a different healthcare system
>master's degree
lmao. That aside 1. whatever job(s) he would have instead would not pay a tenth of his charge for a simple acting gig and 2. public healthcare is dog shit. The idea itself is not bad yet it's modern implementation helps basically no one aside from (( ))
He always wanted to move to the US btw
Wait you praised him earlier when you said he could have finished his education but now laugh at him because he finished his education?
The old cows (aurochs) would have had plenty of predators. Big cats, wolves, boars etc. Calves can't do shit against those predators except be aware of their surroundings and hide in large groups.
I get the feeling that you didn't read the article you're linking
>whose work recently focused on improving recycling and solid waste management.
Like what are you implying, that weak people cares about how to handle waste while strong people just let it all gather in a pile?
I get what you're saying but what you're referring to is more dysgenics or something. Humans have evolved to be hunters.
>hunters
That's like saying chimps evolved to become forklift certified. Some specimen exhibit more potential than others yet genetics are a huge fricking mess in general hence it boils down to the quality of your genetics and luck. If one has high quality genetics he can brute force many things yet if that is not the case a being has to rely on luck alone. Basically being a low T cuck was a semi-viable survival strategy for sub 8 males. Basically they stand no chance against Chads and Brads hence they have to appease them in order to not get ostracized
Define "high quality genetics"
Tall, fit, positive canthal tilt, broad shoulders, jawline that can cut diamonds, light eyes, large hands and feet etc etc
female genetics do not matter nearly as much because at the end of the day a hole is a hole and most males are very desperate
Literally the opposite. I walked out of my basement to test my thesis and the results were mostly factually correct
Please share how you tested your thesis.
>Tall, fit, positive canthal tilt, broad shoulders, jawline that can cut diamonds, light eyes, large hands and feet etc etc
Right here's what you're forgetting
Immunity, eye vision, hearing, likelihood of cancer, Mental disorders, being on the spectrum, genitals damages, fertility, mutations that impacts what you can eat and how your body processes it , allergies etc
See people like you who only cares about looks, you people just don't know shit. What good is being tall and fit (two things where nurture probably plays a bigger role then nature) if you get cancer by the age of 30.
being able to drink milk
A mutation that happened by random chance
>Basically being a low T cuck was a semi-viable survival strategy for sub 8 males. Basically they stand no chance against Chads and Brads hence they have to appease them in order to not get ostracized
You've been browsing /LULZ/ way too much anon
Point is there is no line in the sand that differentiates it. I think low T is a modern problem brought on by a modern lifestyle that some people choose to indulge in. 5000 years ago, all men were fighters and you would want to watch your back even against the runt of the tribe.
I imagine that lioness is afflicted with rabbies.
I heard it was bit by a venomous snake
I've never noticed prey animals (rabbits, deer, stuff like that) having causal or unfocused gazes. If anything, they were hyperfocused because they could get eaten at any moment.
Paranoia is different from being aware of your surroundings. A rabbit will flinch at the sound of something moving while a competent high T male is aware there is no danger in that area
Ignorance is bliss
Yeah prey animals are the most perpetually highstrung hyperalert creatures in existence
Meanwhile predators are just total fricking slobs when they're not actively hunting
>predator festishization
You know what wolves hunt? The very young, very old and very sick. And they gang up on them in large numbers only when they're isolated from stronger members of the herd who can actually pose a threat. Lions do the same thing. Tigers only attack animals they're certain aren't aware of their presence. Birds of prey mainly hunt fish and small game by taking them by surprise. Spiders use traps and poison.
Stop anthropomorphizing animals, they're not some honorable ideal to aspire to; humans conquered the planet for a reason. In places like western Europe and east Asia where humans have lived for millennia, most large mammalian predators were entirely exterminated by humans.
But prey animals have eyes designed specifically for surveying the environment around them, while predators more often have more forward facing eyes for focusing on targets.
Pretty sure they are talking about a metaphor. It's not about the physical location of where the actual eyeballs are placed.
It's about how some people avoid eye-contact, while other people study where the other person's eyes are focusing on.
>right-wing psuedoscience obtained from memes
many such cases
post your eyes
negative canthil tilt
Who cares, worked fine without guns
Shanking leviathans was more fun than gunning them down ever could be.
No it wasn't.
Good. The game would have been worse if it had guns. Why teh frick do people hark on this shit so much? Who gives a frick what the devs think.
>Daily reminder that the only reason the game does not feature firearms is the fact the developers are lefties.
The few times I'd say nofunz moronation benefited the over outcome of something.
Which in turn owes to the theory that this game succeeded in spite of its moronation.
If you wanna talk bullshit, talk them canning their audio guy for not conforming to their politics.
Having no guns is good.
The real change the game should have had is the player instantly dying if they go below a certain depth limit.
nobody gives a shit about this except you weirdo amerimutts who think shooting animals and people is a substitute for a loving household
Either
> your kids suffer from developmental health disorders because you deprive them if meaningful vitamins and proteins
Or
> you justify the killing of animals because you pay other people by proximity via supermarkets instead of being a man and gathering meat yourself.
Pick one. homosexual. Kids can't survive on supplements alone.
umm sweety there is a gun in the game it shoots down two space ships
You are moronic, but enjoy another you. Guns also suck ass in games with suspense. I cannot stress enough that there is no suspense when you have a fricking gun. IRL of course, but in a game? No. Never. Even if it is limited ammo, guns are too easy mode a method of killing. Totally mindless, too simplistic, just makes everything far less scary and interesting from a problem solving perspective.
FEAR you absolute moron. Not to mention the game takes place on a alien planet with advanced alien technology. Firearms being OP would quite literally not be an issue with any semi-competent developer
To a degree. Ignorance is the only thing between a average male and a complete ape out
Talking shit behind a screen is easy yet if you had a spear and a brown bear around you would shit yourself then cry. Nature evolved and so did humans
Humans are pack hunters, nobody fights a predator 5 times his weight alone. You get like 10-12 guys with spears and rocks and you lure it into a trap and then all stab it to death. What I'm explaining to you is that concepts like "honor" and "nobility" do not apply to animals, including predators. They are not an ideal to aspire to, they only exist to survive and procreate.
The strength that animals once possessed which humans lacked is now easily accessible to all. I can point a metal rod at a bear and blow its brains out with almost no effort on my part. There is no reason to desire the base, brute strength of a bear or tiger; humans have made ourselves stronger. The idea of being preyed upon is utterly foreign to the modern man for a reason.
>nobody
Humans literally fight each other 1 v 1 for fun. Gladiators fought wild beasts in exchange for monetary gain. Humans value entertainment far more than survival hence any male wants to prove their physical capabilities by defeating a much stronger opponents. We have tool advantages by default hence some attempt to minimize them in order to make the fights more fair. A dude can scout and plan on fighting a wolf for a year while the wolf is just chilling. Humans are apex predators due to tools which in many cases are double edged swords. If that firearm jammed or exploded in your hands there would be zero physical advantage against a bear or wolf or whatever. Point being: human warfare is dishonorable by default because we aspire to outmaneuver enemies both mentally and physically hence the concept of wonder weapons was born. Animals are just animals correct however we are not much better in that regard. We just succeed much more in others and managed to claim supremacy due to a lack of group threatening opponents
>human warfare is dishonorable by default
I agree only when it is against other humans. The concept of honor does not apply to animals on a meta level. It's no different from saying that it is dishonorable to use an axe to cut down trees. The tree evolved bark to keep out bugs, not axes. A human taking a rock, sharpening it and then using that to hew a tree is cheating. Except the tree didn't evolve for concepts like honor, it evolved just to survive. A wolf or lion or boar is the same. Whether it's tracking an animal, using a bow, using a gun or literally just nuking an entire area, it makes no difference. The concept of honor only applies to humans hunting animals for their own self-satisfaction. The end result will always be the same unless some grave error is made: a dead animal and a living human. The only reason humans lower ourselves to the level of animals is to ease the constant boredom that comes from sitting on the top. Fighting other humans has consequences so we go kill animals for fun.
The point I'm making is that fetishizing predators (in the US it happens a lot with wolves but historically it's been lions) is a tired and ridiculous trope. Wolves kill those who cannot defend themselves so that they can eat them. That's it. Humans should not be drawing life lessons from dogs and cats. I can assure you there is a plethora of writings made by humans that will give you ideas more nuanced than that of a big dog killing a rabbit because it's hungry.
Survivor bias has to be taken into account. Sooner or later earth will adopt to humans just like we adopted to earth hence the definition of honor and where it could be applied will change. Fighting humans for the most part has only social consequences which for humans can be worse than physical ones aka prolonged social isolation due to being ostracized by your local communities. On the other hand by that logic plants which evolved toxins to protect themselves cannot be held accountable for human deaths as humans ignored their biology. The entire thing is somewhat complex yet at the end of the day we are social animals and can only thrive in human communities despite all. nature can ease the effects of personalizing wild animals yet at the end of the day humans work based on patterns which are developed based on a frick ton of complex decisions many of which we do not have have full control over
I will bail btw. Do reply if you wish as I will read any new comments in a few hours
>adopt
>adopted
Adapted or whatever yet you get the point
Most moronic post I've read all day
> Guns also suck ass in games with suspense
K. Give the player access to a gun, but make the enemy bullet-proof.
That would be WAY more suspenseful then not allowing the player to have access to a gun for political reasons.
Can you gun brained amerimutts get over it already. Not every single game needs to have guns in it.
It was a stupid reason and the game was better for it by a fluke, just like the game itself was a fluke. Why do you idiots find it so hard to just say both of these things are true?
The game had the stasis rifle in it which instantly nullifies any threat, it's substantially worse than putting token firearms in the game
Devs are morons and so are you, simple as
you have to let go of the hate, anon, it's consuming you
My first introduction to Subnautica was almost a fricking decade ago from a Vinesauce stream. Holy shit time flies.
Seeing a video of him playing Below Zero made me realize just how much of a moron he is
It's more of a problem with Below Zero than with him. I also had huge issues with the game, including getting glitched through the cave floor by a leviathan in the final area of the game and ragequitting because of it.
No, it was him. He kept trying the same thing over and over and getting frustrated that it wasn't working when there was another way to do it.
Billion dollar idea. Subnautica + co-op and roguelite elements like random map generations and perma death
9optional for the zoomies of course).
There's a good reason you're not a millionaire
barotrauma already exists
Discount SS13 isn't really where its at.
What made Subnautica good is that the map wasn't RNG but mostly handmade.
I agree, but it would be nice to have an element of randomness after the first playthrough and for some sort of shorter lengthen co-operative mode. Obviously as an after thought and in no way/shape/form as a substitute for how it currently is. Merely as an addition.
I'm still upset at how shit of a game Below Zero was compared to Subnautica
It was like another studio doing a ripoff of a popular game, not understanding what made it good in the first place
I played this game at lowest quality. Recently got a great PC. Is it worth replaying at maxed graphics or is it the same experience?
It's the same experience, but it's worth a replay if you haven't played it in 4 - 5 years. I replayed it back in 2021 after being disappointed by Below Zero and it was better than I remembered it being.
I wish I could do a playthrough where I have the balls to go into these biomes full of reapers like the dunes. But it's not even worth it, they don't have anything in them as far as I remember.
There ARE things in the Dunes, including a Precursor Depot, they're just not worth the danger and terror.
Yeah the dunes are the scariest shit I've ever seen in a video game, I say this without any exaggeration. Absolute nightmare fuel. Everything is pitch black and at any second you could get jumpscared and lose your progress.
>we made a good 2 hour tech demo early access game with a fire soundtrack
defenders of "guns bad" narrative, deliberately missing the point of the problem which is "we didn't add guns because they would impact gameplay, we did this because POLITICS and guns 'r bad"
All of you troons know this, and in every thread you play pretend over and over. Society will never heal while scum like you allowed to breath.
The devs could say they suck 5 wieners every Tuesday and I wouldn't care. I just play vidya without seeking out every tidbit of information ever shared by its creators.
>I wouldn't care
yeah, having moral integrity is gay
If the game is good then it's good. No amount of external bullshit can change it. I don't pollute my mind with random crap unlike (You). You should give it a try.
How are you any different than the SJWs who complained about Simom Chylinski's twitter and got him fired?
>Bitching about some devs virtue signaling is having moral integrity
I wish I was more like you and could hold myself to high standards because of insignificant shit like this.
NTA yet I bet a waiter could piss on your plate in broad daylight and you would eat that shit up, cuck
I bet every time a waiter gives you your food you expect him to be really mean and then try to fight you, but you'd beat him up and show everyone how much of a badass you are.
>ad hominem
>appeal to authority
Every. Single. Time. LMAO
>no refutal
I accept your humble and honest concession(s)
>ad hominem
That's literally what this post is
That was a painful analogy, anon
>A waiter pissing on your plate is the same thing as a dev having a political opinion
I hope you're trolling because otherwise this whole post is just sad
>no refutal
Ouch.. Yeah bro just keep bending the knee and giving concessions. Surely the reactionaries are going to back down LMAO
https://steamcommunity.com/app/264710/discussions/0/523897653306355954/?ctp=9#c371918937268702725
I never expected sub 8's to be intelligent yet morons like you set the bar lower every single time
Pro tip, your bait is less obvious if you you use fewer buzzwords and memes
>no refutal brah, no refutal
larping as contrarians on Ganker is not going to get your dicks sucked buddy boyos
>waiter in this meme scenario directly alters the product you paid for
>developers saying dumb shit outside of the game after it has been released has no bearing on the product you consume
Interesting comparison, pal.
if you had moral integrity, then you wouldn't be right wing in the first place
how on earth can you think that guns are a good thing while being Christian? aren't you told to have mercy for your enemies? or are you going to quote that Bible verse about keeping swords even though it was about Jesus telling his followers not to kill the guards who were going to arrest him?
>Why do you need weapons to defend yourself and your family? A good Christian would just let his family be attacked and victimized and never defend them or confront evil....not that I believe in God or have read the bible
Why are atheists like this? Do they think it actually works on anyone and isn't just jerking off for other atheists?
Apparently, according to some devs, Subnautica 2 is supposed to be far more reminiscent of Subnautica 1 than Subnautica: Below Zero. Also the teaser looks amazing.
>Devs say that the game is going to be like the game people liked instead of the game people didn't like
That means nothing to me.
They also said that you didn't HAVE to buy anything after buying the base game, which implies microtransactions.
this game was frickin boring i dropped it after 4 hours. then i saw its made by alt left nazis so it all makes sense
Can everyone itt stop being a massive homosexual
Sorry, the sound of my buttcheeks clapping is too loud and attracts homos wherever I post.
>Smaller, more compact map makes the exploration aspect weaker
>Music is more generic
>Sense of isolation is completely gone because of voiced protagonist and way more voice acting in general
>Cyclops is gone, seatruck is nowhere as cool
>Less emphasis on horror
>More emphasis on complete dogshit land sections
>More emphasis on the plot, which wouldn't be a bad thing if the writing wasn't really fricking bad
>Cyclops is gone, seatruck is nowhere as cool
Is that really bad? You gather all the materials for the cyclops so you can do what exactly, transport the prawn suit between bases? Because I couldn't find any use for the cyclops besides that
I know but I want to hear him say it
I took the cyclops all the way down to the lava biome and it was a harrowing fun journey. Nearly got it stuck on the way back up to the surface and ran into a reaper. It was kind of pointless to use for anything other than that though.
Same, I had a third base just before the sharp drop into the lava biome. It was the fastest way to get the prawn suit there
But you can't get a water processer in it so it can't fully function as a mobile base
Eat fruits homie. One bulbotree can take you from 0 to 100 hydration and nutrition, and you can have 4 of those in one growbed.
And then what? Still feel like there isn't much point to it
But not all underwater caves are fully submerged underwater
I mean you've got all the storage, be able to craft anything and no need to worry about food or water. What else do you need?
Get the thermal generator upgrade, recharge it over heat vents and never have to go back to your base again. Growbeds can grow all the food and hydration you need. You can build battery charger and crafting fabricator on it. You can even build a bed in it and sleep in it. Carry your prawn suit in it and explore anywhere without needing a base. Beat the game with it.
That's all you need to do anyway? Unless you want to do silly shit like trying to ram reapers to death with it.
>Make a bunch of lockers
>A couple of interior growbeds
>Fabricator, modification station and a radio
And you've just made a mobile base. As long as you make a couple spare power cells you'll only have to return to your base every once in a couple hours only to recharge and then keep going. Also, if you use silent mode pretty much every leviathan in the game will ignore you unless you're trying to ram them.
Why did no one like Subnautica Below Zero?
>Take everything that was good
>Throw it out the window
>Also, that one woman from the first game survived for some reason. Despite the fact that she died and the infection would have killed her if she somehow survived her tangle with that levithan.
She survived because she's a hunter
>brown people talking constantly
>the unique water game but now on land like all other games
>not scary
>they fired the sound guy
Adding a story to a game where the player is incentivized to frick off and explore is dumb.
The on land concept was okay, but detracted the subsurface elements a good bit. The mystery and exploration that led to discovering and being able to base build was a key element of the game loop and you basically can unlock most of the base building capabilities within the first 15 minutes of landing in the ocean. On top of that, the narrative beat with Below Zero isn't as good as the first game. Also, the sea bus is a dumb idea compared to the seamoth, prawn suit, and cyclops. It would have been better to get an upgraded design of all those 3 vehicles for below zero or something else altogether.
You know I am a huge fan of disproportionate statistics. For instance, did you despite making up only 13% of the US prison population, neo nazi Aryan Brotherhood chudd make up over 52% of all common prison murders? And you can't just blame socioeconomic factors...
It wasn't by accident, they worked on it and kept doing good shit.
They just decided to become moronic after Subnautica for some reason.
They also made good games in the past like Natural Selection, I guess they let it get to their head after the success of Subnautica.
> Think about when you got the prawn suit, what's the first thing people did? Rodeo a leviathan and drill it to death.
no as I was not a metagaming homosexual. What I did instead is use it to carefully descend those bizzare chasms I saw earlier into abyssmal depths. Later I learned those were the entrances to the underground river cave system
all the prawn suit ever saw of leviathans was drilling them in the face if they snatched it to escape them
Happens all the time, had to quit music cause it kept happening. I want success, I don't like throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks.
>""""good""""
>tiny fricking storage chests for your shitload of materials
>slow as frick swimming even with the vehicles
>randomized ore drops from rocks
>constant need to craft easy to get food and water one by one
>bad progression that might make you skip vital ugprades
>mediocre, expensive building
>any and all danger are "gotcha" moments you cannot defend against, whether explosive fish you encounter before you even get a "weapon" to giant monsters that just eat you. Anything else has no risk at all
Game is overrated as frick and only propped up by "tt-t-t-t-the sea is scary!!" homosexuals.
not even on accident
the game's success was 3 things
>soundtrack and sound design (a shit game can be made 8/10 by good soundtrack alone)
>easy F8 button press feedback system meant the first ~10 hours of the game was extremely well polished
>ocean gimmick, it was the first and still is the only decent ocean swimming exploring game.
So I just got to the disease facility and I don't know what to do next. Should I build the Cyclops thing? I am missing some engine parts.
you don't need to, but you can build scanning rooms around the map if you are looking for stuff.
Breathedge is better.
Why is this Andrew Tate wannabe, pseudoscience spouting moron having a mental breakdown this thread?
> "anon makes well-reasoned and logical assumptions about male behavior and how to improve upon it'
> "T-that's not REAL Science! We need to ban firearm access, stupid Ameritards and their obsession with natural survival! G-d I wish I could be a castrated cow and watch my cow go get fricked by other cows. Eyesight is MYTH!"
>well-reasoned and logical
Black person your justification might as well have been "it came to me in a dream" it's so nonsensical.
>> "anon makes well-reasoned and logical assumptions about male behavior and how to improve upon it'
good use of scare quotes you stupid homosexual lmfao
Who are (you) responding to, and what about what I posted do (you) disagree with?
>Who are (you) responding to
(you)
>and what about what I posted do (you) disagree with?
All of it is fictitious headcanon from seemingly an actual undiagnosed schizophrenic.
>(me)
But I am not even the dude you were responding to.
Is this your first time on an anonymous imageboard? You are arguing your own political beliefs towards multiple strangers, at least one of whom is intentionally fricking with you,
I don't know about guns or noguns but the stasis rifle was a huge fricking mistake, completely trivializes leviathans
you don't even need to kill them because they can't do shit to you
Subnautica was made by morons
it's more likely than you think
I got this on my PS4 back when sony was based and gave some free games without PS+. Any protips?
Tip for playing: "Fear not the dark my friend, and let the feast begin."
Actual in game tips:
Scan stuff and mine rocks as often as you can. There are wrecks near spawn full of handy materials. Was starved of materials and ran around aimless looking for schematics.
Make your base in a spot with plenty of vertical and horizontal space. Had to move bases because I build in the shallows. It was a pain in the ass.
Stalkers drop their teeth after chewing metal salvage. Took me way too long to figure that out.
Statis rifle + Knife can kill anything with enough patience.
Giant underwater heard of cows will bless you with metals and poop.
>oh cool a Subanautica thread
>most posts are just a massive sperg and a bunch of morons of actually replying to said sperg
Anyway back to the thread, would live service mean that they'd be willing to add more creatures and such? Multiplayer Subnautica sounds cool.
Hey at least nobody posted
DIOS MIO...LA CREATURA DEL MAR
>game is about exploring the ocean
>hey you know what this needs? black lesbians
Why? Why are they like this? Why can't they just leave their politics at the door like most people do when they go into work?
>Why can't they just leave their politics at the door like most people do when they go into work?
I need to tell you something. Please listen and try not to panic. You've been in a coma for quite some time. Yes, yes, I know, you would like to know how long. I'm afraid it's been…nine years.
I played this and it wasn't good
Graphics are ugly Fortnite tier mobile ad tier cancer, that's my biggest complaint, I genuinely can't believe this style of art is considered acceptable now with Fortnite being one of the most successful games ever despite its shit art
Way too much reading for nothing
Nothing to do
Do you guys actually play the games you make threads about or do you have shit taste?
I pity anyone who didn't play this blind in VR
I pity those even more who played it in VR but used vanilla version. Not knowing it needs a fan patch to make usable
bump
It is good but becomes much less interesting shortly after you get the sub (or just go to all the areas and figure out what the fish are like). Still fun but replaying it you don't have any of the same threat feeling
ohnononono he typed up all that bait and you're just ignoring him...
the sex unhaving itt is off the charts
>"good game"
>wacky wahoo disney art direction
>crafting
It's SHIT and I'm tired of submissica sissies pretending it's not.
How come so often in these survival games they'll have structures built into the world that you can't interact with. Subnautica is a particularly terrible case because the structures are literally using the same building pieces as you have. They should have the ability to repair the ones they developed placed in the world and make them into a base of your own.
You troony homosexuals just can't help yourselves when it comes to certain games, can you. It's like a mindless basic beast instinct reaction, Pavlov's dog drooling on itself at the application of stimulus.
I'm going to kill the ocean
https://www.nexusmods.com/subnautica/mods/141
This reminds me, is that Return of the Ancients mod ever going to be finished?
I'll wait until I see a trailer and if it's full of dialogue, I'm not playing it. not even worth a pirate.
needed more open world survival mechanics
Im starting to think that most of Ganker is just highly autistic people that cant function on actual websites...
This place isnt for me anymore...
Sounds like you're in the right place alright
Just realizing that now? I also can’t function on any other website though, so I am stuck here forever.
>starting to think
I dont know how to use other websites and they usually ban me when I post dicky or say Black person repeatedly
How the frick did it take you this long to notice?
Normal people use Reddit or Facebook.
Twitter and Ganker are for autistic weirdos who can't handle proper social interactions.
finally iphone users are realizing the internet is not for them (after already ruining EVERYTHING)
good now frick off and stay go.
>I-IS THAT….. A BROWN HAND?! AHHHH IM GOING INSANE SAVE ME HITLERMAN
no
this game is like blade and sorcery vr, its the best and practically only game in its genre. that doesn't make it "good"
(there is also I think it was called stranded or whatever but my god that unity tech demo larping as a full game was shit) and things like the forest but none of those do anything good underwater other than kill you and be as awkward as possible so you lose hours of progress in seconds. (I dont understand peoples obsession with the forest and survival games like this where you lose EVERYTHING on death, its not good gameplay)
I have uninstalled subnautica after getting bored no less than 3 times, its just collect rocks, hoard resources, build stuff repeat.
Just finished this game the other day. The resource grind was a bit of a momentum killer at points but pushing further into the depths was a great experience and luckily kept me hooked. Is there any similar exploration kino out there? I heard the sequel was way more linear.