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The audience for anime is wide enough
less story telling for the next game please
west only pretends to care about storytelling.
BG3 only sold through goyhorny
Alan Wake sales can hardly be called a success
best selling games of 2023 are Hogwarts, CoD and Zelda
>BG3 only sold through goyhorny
There's only like a handful of scenes and at most you'll see like 2 minutes of porn throughout an entire 100 hour playthrough.
NO THEY'RE TAKING OUR SWIMSUIT LITTLE GIRLS
>playing chinese games
Taiwan is a real country you ccp shill.
>developer posts in chinese
not my problem
reUnification is inevitable
Greed sure can change a man.
You never see numbers to back up that greed
cute aggression
Tevi's combat is a straight upgrade, but I have to disagree with David there that the new artstyle worked in its favor. Character designs are full of useless details, orbs, hands, belts, etc, they're really busy.
Tevi herself is the only design that I particularly liked, mainly because she has a defined theme (engineer rabbit) and it shows through some little details (like her goggles or her tool purse)
Also the new artist drew every character's portrait in this pose and this bothers me greatly.
Engineer FAKE Rabbit.
Didn't want to spoil the major reveal.
The one where they tell you she's the good princess' daughter I could see coming from a mile away
caring this much about design makes you look like an absolute homosexual btw. like you play with dolls and dress them up.
The most homosexual take I've seen on Ganker in a good week.
The game is 50h+, if I'm going to keep staring at a character for 50h then he or she better be decently designed.
Exactly. I will only accept t-posing wireframes. Get all this dress up "design" homosexualry out of here!
yes bro 🙁
Imagine not liking dolls
>he's too young to have played the dress up games on newgrounds
Damn zoomers. Get off my lawn.
I checked most of the Steam negative reviews. None of them really talk about the shift in the art design, and rather lament that the story and dialogue are shit. Plus they complain that this isn't Rabi-Ribi 2
There was one guy who did say,
>For the people who's brains automatically associate attractive imaginary women = porn, then I guess this game would be better for you than rabi-ribi. The art style was nice and consistent
But that was it. Take a look: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2230650/negativereviews/?browsefilter=toprated&snr=1_5_100010_
>every negative have at least one clown award
why the people on the modern internet either suck you off or they want you dead? Is like criticism is verboten to them.
Yeah idk why people award the Jester so much.
Sometimes when I'm bored at work I'll check through some steam reviews of a game I like and award some of the recent reviews (both positive/negative) if I felt they were good.
But Jester spamming all negative reviews just screams autism.
The story truly was a big mess. They expected you to feel sad for some ugly robot you met 2 minutes ago. Then it forces you to go search for the mcguffins in a specific order, differently from RR. Then it goes full shounen and shoves 2 twin princesses at your face and an ancient evil at the end
>all these clowns
kek
Anyway, I hate dead ends bullshit the most in video games these days, to the point that it kills any desire to explore modern games in general and I don't even play AAA garbage, I've been tired of this bullshit since 7th gen.
How hard would it be to reward the fricking exploration instead of making shitty and pointless dead ends? There were many games that both had dead ends and interesting locations with loot or whatever, so I simply can't comprehend why it's so difficult for the devs to do some level design variety instead of creating this cheap and fake level design complexity. Just make it linear so I wouldn't waste my time on doing nothing, you fricking lazy hacks, if you can't do your fricking job properly, at least that would be honest.
Fricking crazy how metroidvania designers still do the shit on the left in [current year].
How will you know what's the reward item?
You wouldn't know in either of those cases.
The negative reviews are so irritating for this game, they simply wouldn't exist if people weren't expecting Rabi Rabi 2. If this came from a different dev it would be overwhelmingly positive, because the game is fun as hell
They invited the comparison right from the start.
I don't really care though, I just like a good game and Tevi's a good game
>Plus they complain that this isn't Rabi-Ribi 2
Even the positive reviews are saying this.
Honestly, just add a menu command to automatically unlock Free Mode. TEVI is dragged down so hard because of the story. People should just be able to play the actual game from the start
>Honestly, just add a menu command to automatically unlock Free Mode.
They did.
Ironically, they're alienating the fans who made their game relatively successful to begin with. By no longer appealing to that core audience, they have made a game that's not really for anyone at all.
It rather sounds like they want to appeal to yet another non-existent 'western audience'.
Exactly. This seems like a game that isn't meant for anyone. They went too broad in their attempts to appeal to more people, and to me it looks like the message they are trying to send their core fans is: "We don't need you anymore. I don't care what made us popular or successful, we are not doing that again, so go find something else to play."
>so go find something else to play
That's precisely what I'm gonna do then, of course, which is a shame, really. When you see this 'we want to appeal to the western market' crap you know that it's an instant signal that the game going to be fricked up.
Tevi was a huge flop so they might learn their lesson
Those are both anime art styles though.
Nah, I would never describe that portrait on the right as anime.
But it's the same except they moved the nose up and brought the eyebrows down.
I don't know how to describe it. But I would never call the one on the right anime.
>it's the same except they moved the nose up and brought the eyebrows down.
>and reduced the size of the eyes, simplified the iris detailing, and added more detail to the lower eyelid
>and made the mouths wider
>and changed the shape of the jaw
>and added more facial definition
>and used different colours with a more dull and subdued colour palette all around
>and used thicker outlines with darker shading
You could still call it anime since there's plenty of style variation under that label but it's a very distinctly different style to Rabi-Ribi which they themselves note was on purpose.
you mean a game that was released a couple of months ago has almost the third of the sales of a game that was released 7 years ago and had multiple sales?
Looks like catering to a wider audience WORKED
>doesn't understand that it's comparing one game having higher reviews than the other
>also doesn't understand that the devs had years of goodwill from Rabi-Ribi to bank on for Tevi which had higher production values and a year of marketing leading up to it including a next fest demo right before release, and yet it still only got 1/5 the reviews despite that, which is definitely below expectations
Yeesh, if you're going to type run on sentences then just say it normally, don't even bother greentexting or >implying
Little Witch Nobeta dev is also rumored to announce a new game, Strong and Powerful Ugly Middle Aged Witch.
>Fat b***h Nobunda
Can't wait to play Gruntilda's game.
The new game looka like dogshit.
Never touching it now.
People didnt play Rabi Ribi for the story, and that was okay.
If you cared about changing the designs to appeal to a western audience, then your bunny MC shoulnt have been wearing a leotard, it's just below wearing a playboy suit.
Replacing an anime art style with a "westerner trying to draw anime" style is a rather dumb way of trying to get mass appeal, I don't know why they bothered since I thought the first game did decently well for it's scope.
The irony is in "appealing" to the west they lose all their appeal
Combat is great. A shame about the artstyle
Tevi is basically the publisher assembling a team to make a more palatable version of Rabi-Ribi for normies. Turns out GemaYue's weird otaku creative vision is what makes Rabi-Ribi so good in the first place.
Fortunately he's working on a true successor (Love Bunny). Who knows when it will ever come out though.
*ahem*
the brightest stars burn the fastest, TEVI is slowly burning out of the disillusioned players while rabi-ribi is still as popular as it was years ago
The all-time numbers are right there.
>disillusioned players
What timeline do you come from?
OH NO NO NO NO NO
>new game has more numbers
RRbros...everything is NOT going to be daijoubu...
>693
How does this work with the reviews from the OP being 9,912? Did only 693 out of 9,912 (and owners who didn't review) owners open the game?
The game is simply old anon.
That isn't relevant but I thought on it more and even though the peak was never surpassed, it doesn't mean only 693 players ever existed, the rest just came in under peak from then on. Why age is irrelevant is because some streamer could come in and easily pump it above that peak. Anyway, using the peak number doesn't greatly detract from Rabi-Ribi's overall success because it has more overall purchases. Though one could say Tevi is more successful as it has a bigger initial with 8 years to fill.
>Why age is irrelevant is because some streamer could come in and easily pump it above that peak.
No big streamer would pick a game with designs that people would consider icky and problematic. Normalgays are allergic to it.
That's based on people playing at the exact same time. Which is why this is moronic. Rabi-Ribi was a new thing and so it got it's niche cult classic popularity over the years rather than immediately. So the players were spread out. Tevi capitalized on all the people who enjoyed Rabi-Ribi, so it had a (relatively) huge burst of immediate sales compared to Rabi-Ribi.
Yeah, I realized the same after thinking on it a bit more.
So? More people played RR over the years and Tevi was running on hype from that game. Before the game released you could always see people talking about how it's going to be Rabi Ribi 2.
>we try to add more storytelling
dear god how they messed up, the story is bullshit and left me a bad taste in my mouth.
>racoon b***h kills a robot cook friend
>she gets away with it
>perverted crazy scientist transform her childhood friend into an unstable demon (at least she doesn't die)
>gets away with it
>said CF was sended into a suicide mission by the right hand of the angel president faction, he also kills people and pop a boner when doing it
>gets away with it
>president of the demon faction kills her companion just for kicks (lucky he gets revived)
>gets away with it
>demon controlled by the villain kills tevi's stepfather and it was her best friends big brother
>only he dies and he was mostly innocent, manipulated
>grandma is an absolute piece of shit and is her fault that her life sucks and she has to kill her.
>killing her kills said revived companion because she was sharing her mana to keep him alive, so he dies (not really wait for the sequel :b)
just what the frick?
and I still don't understand how the queen rescue thing happened in the first place.
Rabi-Ribi was sleeper hit, it come out and it was weeb shit, weebs play it and started to say it was awesome, then some brave soul dipped his feet even when they don't dig the aesthetic and loved it, and from it it spread until it become a hit.
Tevi has the problem of trying to pander to people of the west, problem is, if a western player want to play a western game they won't play the pseudo-sequel of Rabi-Ribi but a western game. not counting that the west is fricking gigantic so you can't pander everyone.
>president of the demon faction kills her companion just for kicks (lucky he gets revived)
When was this again
when rescuing the queen from the machine, he shots a super beam to Tevi and Sable push her out of the way and he eat it instead, damaging his core.
Oooh that part, the "her" threw me off, but I do remember the Vassago fight. Yeah that was bullshit, although they did set him up as being le wacky and crazy DIO reference and we didn't even get a rematch afterwards.
>soul
>soulless
That's a strange way of saying "we hired a cheaper/shittier artist, so I'm going to call that a visual style change"
Lel, this. The visuals look like an objective downgrade, and I'm not convinced it has anything to do with "trying to appeal to a more western audience." People in western countries like anime too, duh
It's moe. They use "anime" because they don't know the word moe, but whenever an English speaker talks about "anime style", especially in a negative connotation, it's moe. Lots of English-speakers have this weird aversion to moe.
I knew it was going to be trash when the bunny girl took off her hat and the ears were fake.
The art for Tevi looks like it's some weg with an anime art style
I liked some parts of tevi but honestly it just wasn't as good as rabi ribi. The music wasn't as good, the dialogue wasn't as soulful, character designs weren't as good... map was WAY too big with nothing in it.. eh. Rabi-ribi was just a 10/10 so it's hard to compare.
The lack of hot characters really didn't help the game though. The story did nothing for me.
Yeah, the story was decidedly mediocre so that's a strike. The gameplay was an objective upgrade, I don't know who would argue otherwise. The sheer amount of options (too many in the case of damage negation, you got me there) makes it way more dynamic to play even if the optimal strategy, at least in my playthrough, is to hardline either physical (small bosses) or ranged (large bosses). Still, gameplay is great. Exploration sucked because there weren't any hidden techs to my knowledge, meaning it felt much more bog standard compared to Rabi-Ribi where even finding a single hidden tech basically opened an entire section of the game for you early on. And the artstyle. The portraits are god awful, but the CGs were for the most part pretty fine. I don't actually know what the hell happened that made the most common look at characters so dogshit, but that's the impression everybody's going to live with unfortunately.
I'd still say it's definitely worth playing, at a discount of course, but maybe skip the story and go straight to Free Play if it ain't your thing.
The only thing that's bad about Tevi now that it's at patch 1.03 are:
1. The story. That can't ever be patched out or fixed but at least Free Roam Mode exists and is now available from a fresh file.
2. Brittle tiles. But I'm pretty sure the devs will address this issue since literally everyone complains about it on forums and they've shown a willingness to change things based on feedback.
Pretty much every other gameplay issue people had with the game on launch has already been fixed. Potion scaling mode in particularly is basically RR's alternative mode equivalent. Mid-game to late-game bosses have been rebalanced. The game is now way harder and engaging than it was on launch (even if you don't apply modifiers like aggro bosses or turbo mode or elite enemies, which makes it even harder if you actually do).
What pisses me off about the story is that the basic premise and setting actually have potential.
But the writer just kept on introducing and dropping characters (like Vassago and Memloch just completely disappear from the story after they show up as bosses).
That robot character who wanted to be a chef was introduced and then killed like 10 seconds later and we're supposed to feel bad about the character? And that ending was so insanely rushed.
Which is part of the reason why I have a hunch the story was the very last thing that was added to the game. A big chunk of the dialogue/event scenes don't even have any music, which was probably because of this last-minute nature of the story and writing.
Putting aside that the art is still dog shit and that isn't going to change, I don't think free roam existing stops the story mode from being a problem. Rabi-Ribi had story and that story facilitated the gameplay where you could explore freely, you could have both. In Tevi you have to choose between story or freedom of exploration, you can't have both. That's a huge point against Tevi because it's basically asking you to play it once in the shitty linear story mode and then play it again in free roam whereas Rabi-Ribi just gave you both the story and the freedom at the same time.
>because it's basically asking you to play it once in the shitty linear story mode and then play it again in free roam
You're gonna replay RR and Tevi multiple times anyway. RR to unlock Hell and then again to unlock Bunny Extinction (and then again to beat Bunny Extinction), Tevi to unlock Infernal BBQ (and then again to beat Infernal BBQ).
You're missing the point. Rabi-Ribi isn't a shit experience the first time you play it.
>Rabi-Ribi isn't a shit experience the first time you play it.
Neither was Tevi.
Even with my problems with the clunky story and dialogue playing through the game on Expert for the first time on launch day, I thought it was a fantastic and exceptional experience.
And if you're gonna say I'm wrong and that it's actually a "shit experience the first time you play it", then I have no reason to engage with you anymore.
>story is a mess that jumps all over the place (nobody played rr for the story anyway)
>worse artstyle (cgs look great but something went horribly wrong with dialogue sprites)
>characters look like they were designed for gacha with how overdesigned most of them look
>safe designs for females
>game is more linear and guides you 100% of the time
Only the gameplay is an improvement and that's because it built on what was already good in Rabi Ribi. Whoever wrote this doesn't understand his own game.
>We want to appeal to a wider audience
Pic related, its the wider audience
I want to frick her
this peruvian shit has been living off of this garbage comic strip nearly his entire adult life
My main problem with the game was the tone down on Danmaku mechanics in the boss fights, (at least in normal mode can't say about other difficulties)
Same for hard. Boss battles are now more focused on platforming and this time you don't have a dedicated shmup boss fight like Lilith
That's sad to hear, the Danmaku elements where one of my favorite parts of Rabi-Ribi.
and to think it even say's "A bullet hell Metroidvania" in the product description
>the Rumi fight that switched between grounded and shmup between phases
What a satisfying fight to first try, I still think back on it. That really was missing in Tevi. I expected one too after getting the jetpack but it was just used for traversal instead, what a shame.
Play Last Command.
Already did, it's my personal best game of 2022(3?)
That's probably the case for normal too, but some bosses like Menloch did have tricky patterns. The bullet hell aspect was just heavily "nerfed" because it's way easier to
>defend with your face if you pick the correct sigils
>entirely negate a bullet trail with either Celia's or Sable's shield
Yeah, and that's what got me, the few instances of nice patterns they throw at you just leave me wanting more of it for the rest of the game,but besides that it was a fun game and i had a good time with it
Yeah, it's a fun game overall. The pseudo "roman cancel" here is more useful as you have so many possible routes to combo into. Absolutely loved its combat.
It has lewds?
No, but Fei is cute.
>Trying to make it look like there's a huge disparity between the UR of Rabi-Ribi and Tevi
kek, lmao even. And his response is on point, I recommended RR to so many people and every single one of them told me the designs were dogshit. That's how you make games, people tell you the designs are shit, you change them. That's how you run a company, that's how capitalism works, that's how life works.
And if you were into RR for the designs, get filtered. You were the real tourists all along.
ok
for me it was lack of enemy diversity. every area in rabi ribi had it's own themed enemies and attack patters and tevi had the same couple of bad guys everywhere and maybe one or two new enemy per area. rabi ribi would also throw at you many bosses and mini-bosses but with tevi they went with arguable-quality over quantity
I'm more curious about how they got the money for world class seiyuus
The gameplay is fun, but the danmaku, music, and sequence breaking were my favorite parts of RB, and Tevi flunked pretty bad on these.
>music
this is true, the game severely lacks having its own brawl breaks/exotic laboratory/get on with it
>some unwashed stinking weeb thinks that 8 years of sales is appropriate to compare to 1 month of sales
you know what? i can take you being a gross unkempt freakazoid in desperate need of a shower. but the smugness is what gets to me. it's completely unearned.
twitter is down the hall and to the right
you talk like a redditor
>gross unkempt freakazoid in desperate need of a shower
you talk like a fake woman
i didn't say that
tough shit Black person, I've decided you did
ah frick i hope i have better luck next thread then
>Rabi-Ribi is 8 years on
>100 new reviews in the previous month
>TEVI is 2 months on
>800 new reviews in the previous month
Americans do be wide
Rabi-Ribi was bright, cheerful and fun before anything else. TEVI is browner Rabi-Ribi. Dull environments, less fun characters.
yeah
rabi ribi felt like a Dreamcast game. tevi feels like a ps3 game.
In fairness, where do you go with a Rabi Ribi sequel? Like what can you use for new bosses in the same vein? We already have an alraune, a succubus and an ancient Egypt princess babe, what's left without feeling like a downgrade?
You will get more kots and you will be happy.
More monster girls. And robot girls too.
>most pointless character in the game is the best boss
I will say, there are some bosses that I need to redo. Mainly the big ones. Once you figure out that "projectile spam = HP melt" then big bosses especially become trifles. The melee badges are the most fun for sure, but I'd wager the MP Spam ones are the most powerful.
That one skill that creates a floating platform was insanely useful here
>we want to appeal to a western audience
>didn't make the girls huge dykes like how they were in rabi ribi
what did they mean by this
The fact they added a bunch of males characters should give you a hint of what they meant by "wider audience".
more anime style kthxbai
>add more storytelling
Yeah..Thats the one that always fricks over these GAMES.
Like fricking hell man, I dont mind story segments but when they think ushering in a story will make things better they always railroad the shit out of it making it a drag or a sense of "I need to finish the story before I can actually play".
Ah, doublethink.
Well did they get it?
It didn't fly with ironic weebs eitherway. Go real or go home.
Should've doubled down on the anime and tell the redditcucks to eat lead.