>wears fricking scarlet pants and a violet jacket
>Terastal symbol pendants and interest in the phenomenon
>golden marks and symbols straight up taken from the cover of Heath's Scarlet/Violet Book
>same angry b***h face and eyebrows
>wood with the same name comes from the tree with the same name as Heath
Hope you are ready for this b***h to confirm Heath is a liar homosexual
Uh i like the new villain
>clothes are genetic now
As genetic as books, yes.
>clothes are genetic now
Correct clothes are genetic in almost every piece of fiction when it's about descendants and shit
my guess is that she is a descendant of heath and wants to prove he is not a liar. Maybe she even tries to stop you when you find out the truth and becomes the dlc final boss.
>wants to take Terapagos to produce even more fantasy abominations and make her lineage prestigious
What team will she have?
>fantasy abominations
Is that what paradox mons are or is there actual time travel involved I’m seriously lost gen 9 is dumb as hell
Both
The time machine is a wish granting device probably powered by terapogos in some way. The paradox pokémon are the equivalent of a mix of cryptids like Bigfoot, pulpy sci-fi robots and wildly inaccurate speculative recreations of ancient pokémon, which appear to be folk myths within the paldea region. The professor appears to have believed in these myths wholecloth and built a "time machine", which instead of producing pokémon consistent with what we know existed in the past, produces fighting type moths with dragon tails. Because the professor thought those were the real deal, confirmation bias kicked in.
God that’s stupid. We all think that’s stupid, right? I’d rather they just have pokemon tulpas
Or maybe she's right there at your side to uncover the truth, while proving her ancestor wasn't telling porky-pies. Not everyone has to be "le bigbad endgame boss", look at fricking kieran who's clearly gonna be the antagonist force in Pt. 1. Everyone and their incel brother from another other expected carmine to be the bossy b***h antagonist rival.
I just want a cool final boss if we are going back to area zero in the end
And there will be some bullshit paradox final bossmon to fight, but it doesn't need to have someone directing it.
What about Geeta?
This. Their hair is very similar.
Also why would she wear a jacket that looks like the fricking book itself if she thought that it's full of bullshit? That makes no sense at all.
She is either a descendant of Heath or has a similarly unhealthy obsession with the book as Arven's parent. Maybe both.
>Clavel was in the research team along with the professor and other homosexuals
>But he's confirmed to appear in the twilights special making another Unique character
Wonder was gonna happen here
>s-she’s totally gonna be relevant to the story goys
Yeah, just like geeta amarite
>Hope you are ready for this b***h to confirm Heath is a liar homosexual
She's here to confirm it happened or assist in it occurring. Imagination morons are so stupid.
Even the anime is dabbin on you making a literally confirmed to be fictional story real in crystalized pokemon form lmao
Did you actually watch the anime
Did you? Liko and Roy called the author of the book (Liko's own father) and he confirmed it's fictional. The crystal Rayquaza Roy found in that pokeball is fictional, just like your intelligence.
I repeat: did you watch the anime
we /tamers/ now?
That is how Paradox Pokémon are made.
I repeat, did (You)? The story Roy follows is the one from the book, which is happening word by word with the pokemon so far.
Do you think Liko's father only addition to the story was his drawings or something? Because you seem to be implying the detailed stuff all came from her and that's why it's "real".
The story he wrote is based on what her grandmother told him. She had the same exact experience as Heath did as he described in the Paradox book. Roy comments on it verbatim. You must be the Pennygay.
So yes you think all the details that are coming true came from Liko's grandma and her father didn't write a single original thing, despite claiming the story is "based" on the hag's tale
You're mentally stunted.
Timetravelsisters..why are they expanding the lore on Area Zero if the base game already said its time travel!? Are they going to reveal imaginationchads were right all along? I don’t feel so good….
It was all created by AI. It's the new normal we all will have to deal with in all media for the next 10 years. That and ayys, but we already have those.
>if the base game already said its time travel!?
Funny thing is, it said it was time travel while implying it was not.
The entire reason why they’re called paradox pokemon is because the time travel argument isn’t sufficient to explain why they showed up in only Heath’s time. The game points this out, with Arven mentioning it; if the time machine directly pulls mons from time A/B to the present by way of pokeballs, then how were they running around in time C (Heath’s era) but not for the other 200 years in between?
DLC plot will be about solving the paradox.
Which side is currently winning, Imagination Theory or Time Travel Theory?
Time Travel
imagination died months ago with Walking Wake. they're now ignoring the new paradox mons and trying to switch up the narrative to keep their schizo shit going since they can't go "the book!" anymore.
>imagination died months ago with Walking Wake.
How does Walking Wake exist in the present after the time machine was shut down?
if only there was a way to turn it back on :// must be imagination
You can still go in that room and see it's clearly not turned on you fricking moron.
if only there was a way to turn it back on :// must be imagination
You're moronic
Time machines dont need to worry about time
Why are you all so moronic thst you think a time machine being off means it csnt have messed with time before that?
Because the plot would mention if more Paradox Pokemon than just Donphan managed to escape Area Zero.
Plus, you'd be able to find more in Area Zero itself. The time machine is off.
>because headcanon
>I don't have a counterargument so I'll call any contradictions to my own 'headcanon'
>my headcanon doesn't make sense so I'll pretend it does
You don't understand how time works
>I'll just pretend I know what I'm talking about
>Please don't point out that the time machine has never said to send Pokemon to other times, only bring them here
>Or that it's still off
>Please don't!!!
>a machine being off means it can't have worked in the past
moron alert
>I have to headcanon something to have happened to make my argument work
Yeah that's fricking clear.
You lost hard
I've never played these games I dunno man I just post the opposite of what you say
>time machine has never said to send Pokemon to other times
>absence of information is confirmation of such
>I have to make up information to support my argument instead of use what's presented in the game
Hey anon, how did Sada/Turo build the AI Professors?
>make up information
>when using lack of information as proof of something
Lmoa
So what you're saying is you're using no evidence to support your proof of something having happened?
I'm not saying anything happened, you are doing such with full irony
You're an idiot.
Claiming Pokemon were sent into the past or future without any evidence in the game supporting this is exactly what you're doing. If they were, they'd appear in Area Zero. Walking Wake and Iron Leaves do not appear there.
Please stop posting, I'm not and have never supported that it's time travel.
>dlc mons aren't integrated with main game
No shit
If the DLC mons weren't meant to be integrated, Raging Bolt and Iron Crown wouldn't exist. Gamefreak continues to make new Paradox Pokemon, despite the time machine being turned off.
Time machine doesn't need to be on to have other pokemon found
>The time machine doesn't have to be on for other Pokemon to get to the present via time travel
Yes, what is a time machine? It could have been used four years ago even if it was off now
>It could have been used four years ago even if it was off now
"I have to make up something unsaid to make my argument work and resolve the paradoxes."
>doesn't understand how time machine works
>copying words like a child
>He still thinks other people don't understand how time travel works
>And has to make leaps of logic to support his argument
>Instead of make the logical conclusion that Terapagos made the Pokemon, and continues to make them
They were just hiding in other areas.
you know they could've come from the time machine before it was shut down, rigth imaginationcuck?
You lost kid. Face it, it's imagination
Who?
Imagination
The one that doesn't pretend Suicune and Raikou existed before the burned tower
>three creatures died in tne Tower
This is those creatures dumbass
>a bunch of 10 feet tall, fire resistant dinosaurs died in ancient japan
>ancient Japan
>1850
The tower that has fire ducks and crabs living in it?
The Victorian era is ancient?
To zoomies, it's two whole centuries ago, so yes.
>Raging Bolt died because the Ecruteak Health and Safety board forgot to demand the tower builders include a 3m high fire escape
deepest lore
the fact that it wasn't even THAT long ago makes it even more ridiculous, since dinos were out of place even more back then since they didn't have any mean to restore fossils.
>the fact that it wasn't even THAT long ago makes it even more ridiculous
What the frick are you talking about?
I'm not responsable for your reading comprehension skills. You should ask your special support teacher about that.
Are you seriously trying to say that he Dino beasts roamed around the same time as the regular beasts?
Are you moronic?
Anon, they did. Ho-Oh revived the burned 'mons into instances of the Legendaries, but they were already extant in the world at that stage.
>johto had giant dinosaur pokémon
>that all went extinct within the last 150 years
>and no one remembers
Why would they remember? They're dead.
Also could just be those three.
People don't remember Sinnob was called Hisui less than 150 years after too
To be fair, I question if modern Japanese children know Hokkaido was called Ezo 150 years ago.
This. This series might just be…kind of stupid
Ho-oh probably just makes a new batch every once in a whale. Hopefully we get the eveelutions these came from as well.
Imagination, it's so obvious (Terapagos makes wishs comes true) lol
Wishes that are based on real events and that anime only anyway
I don’t want imagination to be real but it’s the only way any of this garbage and shit designs make sense canonically, as if game freak hacks care about canon lol
>If imagination isn't real the Pokemon universe had an ancient tech race now
Hilarious
Wouldn’t it be a future tech race? Either way it’s disturbing do pokemon just evolve into robots in the future? If so why?
Delibird one is from the past
I hate them becoming robots so much
Is it? How the frick does that work? Where’d you see that btw
It's not, it's some /x/gay who thinks the tabloids mean anything. Bigfoot is real btw
>Is it? How the frick does that work?
It's only from the past in the bullshit Occulture articles. In other words, only the imagination theory says its from the past.
Yeah anon, all mention of past and future come from Occulture.
It's great you agree time travel is made up bullshit.
>Yeah anon, all mention of past and future come from Occulture.
Good lord I hope you aren't being serious.
If the Scarlet and Violet books do not mention the past or future in any way where would both professors would get the idea to build a time machine to get the pokemon described in them?
I know it's difficult for you, but I'm asking you to think about this long and hard.
It's almost as if the game had hinted on at least two different occasions that there's behind the scenes manipulation happening.
No wonder GF never tried with their stories, they knew that it would be too complex for people like you.
>Headcanon some other party to stick his moronic theory together
Timetravelgay are you okay?
>Terapagos is headcanon
>the AI being a copy of the professor not understanding their intentions is headcanon
Good fricking god you imagination theorists have no idea what's even in the game.
You know time travel makes zero sense.
>haha anon i'm an idiot! time travel makes no sense! bazinga!
Go ahead and explain how the paradox legendaries make any sort of sense. Especially the past ones.
How do they not make sense?
How did Dinosaurs turn into mammals that are stated in universe that have been revived like 200 years before
You're talking about a series where a fish can evolve into a cephalopod and the beasts aren't unique pokemon.
thats some serious cope. We both know that the beasts were revived by Ho-oh
Yeah, a trio of them were revived.
They were the beasts before and they were the beasts after.
Reviving something doesn't change it.
>a trio of them
No it was 3 pokemon
Yeah, Entei, Raikou and Suicune.
>"Three unknown pokemon"
moron
Aka, Entei, Raikou and Suicune.
Also thanks for posting an image of the three burned beyond recognition.
They were named after the fact anon. That doesn't mean they didn't exist.
Also Generations isn't canon
Generation is very much canon
So is the ashime movies, where there were multiple sets of beasts and various legendaries and mythicals.
Generation and the shitty aren't comparable at all
It's canon whether you like it or not, goalpostgay but I appreciate you letting me know to stop responding to your horseshit
>Generation is very much canon
It's not unless you believe Archie died.
No it was 3 regular pokemon
ESL detected.
No thats you. A native speaker would be able to get the context from the thread chain
>that are stated in universe that have been revived like 200 years before
You know the beasts existed before the burned tower incident, right?
As regular pokemon. Not as legendaries
Sorry to break it to you, loregay, but the events of Heath's expedition precedes the towers burning, including the drawings of the beast hybrids. They existed before the Johto trio regardless of what nostalgia you want to hold onto.
Except the picture in Heath's book says it's the artist made it up. Not only that but it doesn't even look like the actual paradox pokemon
>Except the picture in Heath's book says it's the artist made it up.
No. It says he was inspired by the pokemon in area zero.
Anon, please be honest with me: are you moronic? Mentally slow? You do understand that the artist drew the fusion before the Johto trio were given birth by Ho-Oh, correct? Are you saying that by stroke of genius he just so happened to perfectly articulate attributes of all 3?
Except you have no proof the expedition happened before the tower burning. That's your headcanon
It's an artist from Paleda half remembering something from across the world
Why are you so confident when you don't know what you're talking about clown boy
>It's an artist from Paleda half remembering something from across the world
The beasts aren't a unique trio, moron.
yeah they are
projection
>projection
One of two things: you don't know what you're talking about or you're trolling. So which is it?
>yeah they are
No they aren't. Just like the birds they're must rare.
There's nothing in game saying there's more than one
>can catch a beast in FRLG as well as encounter them in Orre
>three years before Ethan wakes the Burned Tower trio beasts, to roam around Johto
Playing video games makes Zoom-zoom brains go boom-boom, seemingly.
They're trolling, stop responding to them. They already know they're wrong so they're wasting your time instead.
Never attribute to malice what can easily be attributed to stupidity.
This board errs heavily towards the younger end of the spectrum as well as the lower functioning end of the 'tism spectrum. And this isn't the first childish frickwit to claim a trio was supposedly unique and one-of-a-kind (cf the meltdown over the Kanto birds, even after Gen 4 proved the Regis weren't fricking unique, but Gigas was a hubristic prick who'd go around making stone, ice and steel golems in its image, so why would the birds be and they had about three different versions of each that appeared up to DP series).
The idea that legendary and mythical Pokemon are unique hasn't been a thing since the start of Pokemon frankly.
Orre isn't cannon first and foremost. Second no one has any idea of what the second point is supposed to be
>Except you have no proof the expedition happened before the tower burning.
>Burned Tower is stated to have happened 150 years ago
>Area Zero Expedition Team is stated to have happened 200 years ago
>there's not 50 years between the events of GSC and SV
Yes, the Area Zero Expedition Team happened BEFORE the creation of the Beasts. Maybe try being literate.
>there's not 50 years between the events of GSC and SV
What evidence is there for this?
His fat hairy ass
>Not only that but it doesn't even look like the actual paradox pokemon
Which is a strike against the imagination theory so I don't see why you're even bringing it up.
Time travel is the only thing that does make sense using the information in the game.
Dude, they didn't give a shit about the past or the future until they went into area zero.
They went in to study terastalization and somewhere along the way they pivoted to past and future pokemon and the idea of paradise.
They owned the books their whole lives dumbass.
It's clearly established that they always cared about the past/future but they could only achieve what they wanted after getting the funding to do so.
God, imagination gays are stupid.
Caring about paradox mon =/= past and future
If that were the case then violet would make no sense at all and both games would target 200 years ago.
Also I'm not an imagination gay you inbred hick. Play the game.
>t. troony that doesn't understand paradoxes
>guys i wrote this magazine based on this book
>i added a bunch of scifi shit to it haha
>omg guys did you read this magazine it disproves all this other stuff that's awesome!
this is what you sound like
Stories are not about petty people who try to bring others down for the sake of it.
If she is related to Heath she will prove him right and vindicate his name instead of dragging him even more through the dirt.
I turned my washing machine off. I will never be able to do laundry again
If your washing machine had an elaborate protection protocol ensuring that it couldn't be turned off then yeah you probably couldn't.
If only we had someone like a family member with access to the professors lab and all their information....maybe if we used our imagination
Anon left with the key.
Or are you implying the super intelligent AI sacrificed its life to turn off the machine without considering that someone could just simply...turn it back on?
I'm still waiting for any timetravelcuck to explain how, over 100 years ago, Heath saw an iron serpent from hundreds of years in the future when the only two that have ever been retrieved from said "future" are in my PC.
There was a third
If only there was some type of established plot point.
Too bad there's no way Heath could have interacted with a different point in time.
>Too bad there's no way Heath could have interacted with a different point in time.
if only there were some kind of time machine 🙂
You mean the time machine that didn't exist in Heath times and only brought back two Korai/Miraidons from the "ancient past/distant future" into Sada/Turo's era 200 years after Heath wrote the book..?
He saw them from the point they were taken from obviously
He saw them from the future?
Yes they were there already
There are two -raidon because it is on the cover of the book : each -raidon represents each side of the cover.
Timetravelbros?
>what is a predestination paradox
but your monkey brain wouldn't understand
Predestination paradox depends on a time travel that can't possibly happen given the info we know for a fact. Looks like you wouldn't understand
Moron
You tell them bro
Time travel wouldn't make sense, they've never done it in Pokemon before. Remember Celebi? Only time ever!
What's with timetravelcucks and pretending anyone has ever said time travel is impossible in the Pokemon universe, rather than pointing out the obvious discrepancies and bullshit from the paradox pokemon?
It's not even a decent strawman, man, you are just pathetic.
>the obvious discrepancies
yeah, dozens of them! like the paradox book and the pokemon website! walking wake is the pokemon in the book! um...just ignore raging bolt!
>he just did it again
>dozens of them!
There are no past volcarona fossils, a megaform before megaevolution existed, a billion years ago it's before multicellular organisms existed, a pokeball mimic before pokeballs existed, a magnet before humans, every single future form looks like something a child would think the future will look like, every single one has childish names, they are genderless, no dex entry when even ultrabeasts have them, they aren't even considered the same species unlike all the regional forms in previous games.
delete this shit right fricking now I swear to imagination
It's too deep bros, they would never do a plot like a paradox. Did you not hear what Penny said about Sylveon? To become its true self through imagination!
>He thinks temporal paradoxes are the only kind of paradoxes that can exist
>i-i-it's an imagination paradox!!! khu said so!!! wait he didn't say that and was wrong?
>NUH UH I CAME UP WITH THE IDEA MYSELF ACTUALLY
>I'm gonna post some nonsense and act like a moron for some reason!
Timetravelgays don't know what paradox mean, man, let them be.
>Hope you are ready for this b***h to confirm Heath is a liar homosexual
>implying she's not going to be the reason paradox mon end up in the past
>when ~~*science*~~ is wrong it has to force itself to be retroactively correct even if it means tampering with time and space
>game freak releases the most anti-science narrative ever seen in Nintendo properties
Based
>game freak releases the most anti-science narrative ever seen in Nintendo properties
The frick are you talking about? It wouldn't even be the first Nintendo game with a time loop paradox.
The Anti-science part would be this b***h sending pokemon that didn’t exist in the past to the past to force being “correct” in the name of muh science
Anon, they did exist in the past. They're described in the book.
Was the book written by observers who were in the past or observed something they assumed was from the past in only 100 years ago area zero?
Observers who were in the past anon, have you even played the game?
Yeah but I forgot because it sucked so bad it barely left any impression
guys what if the DLC comes and goes and we don’t get a definitive answer
>Heath is a Paradox form of Briar
I'll kek
I look more forward to the awkward silence and gaslighting after timetravelmongoloids are exposed than playing the actual DLC.
Only because you're too afraid to play it because you just know it will undeniably blow-out the imagination theory.
Timegays are a bunch of cowards
People really still believe that it's time travel when the trailer implies that the loyal three and Ogerpon were created by Kieran?
Explain further, I'm interested.
What if imagination theory is not only correct, but this all turns out to be a big prelude to GF announcing a Pokemon equivalent of Mario Maker? Certainly everything about the loyal three looks, feels, and sounds like some preteen's shitty fakemon designs.
I understand why people thought showing ankles was too lewd now
>old paradox pokemon are prehistoric dinosaurs with an ability that ties to the sun at the dawn of times
Yeah bro, Walking Wave and Raging Thunder totally were mere Johto pokemon 200 years ago
It feels so good to be an imaginationgod. Every morning I wake up from a dream of fantastical pocket monster creatures that shrink when they are weakened, I then imagine what it might be like to be a timetraveltroony. Imagining what it would be like if they could travel into a future where their ridiculous "time travel theory" is confirmed and then travel back in time to confirm it. Could you even imagine?
ho-oh and suicune are imaginary, the dinosaur versions are the real ones
i like her design