>weebs have convinced themselves that the original English script for this game is bad because it's a JRPG where the characters actually talk like real people
>weebs have convinced themselves that the original English script for this game is bad because it's a JRPG where the characters actually talk ...
best game
son of a submariner.
Literal translation:
>Heeeee! Damn it!
Wow that's a lot more memorable, they really should've went with this to satiate boring autistic weebs
>more memorable
Frick you Vic.
Who?
Look up Working Designs newbie.
I've never heard of this and literally zero fricks are given about the ruminations of a tranime enthused troon
Why did he do it?
NEXT
Watching this is really funny after playing a FF6 difficulty hack and getting my ass beat by all these bosses
I miss Square Soft like you wouldn't believe.
Giving a Moogle a really gruff manly voice is really funny to me.
Reminds of the fan dub that gave pikachu danny devito's voice
This seriously looks like a Robot Chicken sketch. I find it funny how they tried to make Mog some sort of rad bad-ass with extreme 'tude, I guess to jump on that 90s bandwagon of cool animal mascots (Sonic, Bubsy, etc.).
I remember seeing this ad in like GamePro and EGM and being pissed when I found I didn't have access to this little homie right away
Because the talent of the top NBA stars of the early 90's was stolen by the Monstars.
>get mog
>oh boy I'm about to see some real shit
>mfw water fandango
I've forgotten the name of the dances because I never fricking used them.
Water Rondo. If you played 6 with the rule of never equipping espers, you gain a new respect for all the characters and their abilities. Give it a try, Mog, Gau and Strago are clutch healers.
Gau with Magic Pot is 10/10, I can't believe people shit on Gau
Gau is just a pain in the ass to set up and you would need a lot of experimentation and a lot of time to even figure out which rages are good(or a guide)
And? I thought that was the fun of an RPG.
backtracking to the Velt, praying the correct random encounter shows up in the jungle, sending Gau in, then waiting to win a coinflip to come back and then individually checking what new rages you got and testing them to even see what they can do is not "the fun of an RPG"
FFV Chemist is fun to figure out, you just need to experiment a bit and you are guaranteed to find some really useful mixes in a few attempts, nothing like Gau's huge timesink
Sounds like you're just not dedicated enough.
You know a design is shitty when even the difficulty oriented romhacks make that specific system easier to use
I used to lie there and look at ads like this over and over
reread the reviews, the articles...
miss those days. it seems like life happened so much more slowly and everything was much more pleasurable. now we have all this data and its useless. my interactions with people online or whatever dont bring me as much joy as just looking at that ad did
That’s very poetic Anon.
I really mourn the non-digital world, those of us born in roughly early 1980s got to see both sides right on the brink of adulthood and man, it was better before.
stuff like looking up books in a library was just better. people who cared about knowledge were obviously and apparently smarter, now everyone knows everything. of course they do, it's right here on the phone.
humanity was not ready for this and we are, in fact, probably not supposed to be here at all and accidentally got access to the idea of transistors.
we are supposed to be in a comfy vacuumpunk era right now, where the fastest computer, which takes up an entire room, just reached the speed of a DEC PDP-1.
I've heard that Japanese gamers don't give a shit about Kefka, but Americans love him because the localization gave him a lot of personality.
well yeah. the 'big' FF in japan is 10, not 7
This is true, they love Wakka and recently voted him their most favourite FF character of all time kek.
That's only because gay Wakka is a big meme in Japan
They made an otoMAD about Wakka getting his ass fricked by Tidus to Madoka Magica OP last year, and that shit went crazily viral
TIIDA NO CHINPO
god that is fricking embarrassing
I fricking hate 10gays like you wouldn't believe. It's like they made a Final Fantasy game for South Americans.
>. It's like they made a Final Fantasy game for South Americans.
holy shit, is that what it is? after all these years somebody finally hit it on the head
Wrong. 6 is very well-liked. It was the best-selling FF in Japan until 7. What's actually interesting is the FF5 is considered very highly in Japan, and sold basically the same amount as 6 over there. Over here it's considered a "black sheep", just because it didn't get released.
When the devs for ff16 kept answering that FF5 was their favourite FF or top 3 favourite ff game I kept wondering what the frick were they smoking.
I'm not saying it's a bad game but it has a tiny presence outside Japan, maybe that was them trying to encourage JP players, but it stood out to me for how strange it was.
I saw the Director, the combat director, and a few other devs all quote FF5 as their favourite.
It's one of the only FF games to offer you a non-paltry amount of customization so it'll definitely be a lot of people's favorites if they can appreciate that.
That said it's super funny to hear it coming from the XVI devs considering how their game turned out.
Yeah, I thought so in retrospect did they really say that giving the customization is pretty much non-existant in ff16. I hope they fix that with future dlc as after playing Strangers of Paradise, although the action in that game is ok, and the levels are very linear, I really enjoyed the gearing.
3 and 5 had the job stuff and i think a lot of japs really enjoyed that kind of gameplay
They enjoyed it so much they stopped putting it in the mainline games after V
Yeah, and every FF system since has felt half-baked at best, odd coincidence.
No need to add it to future games when 14 exists.
>FFXVI devs
>Favourite is FFV
Ironic.
I know, the director said it. People shitting on YoshiP but give the game director a complete pass.
The couple interview I read for FF16 both seemed to have the director passively aggressively saying he would have had more RPG mechanics if was up to him.
It's weird they liked it enough to use it as the basis for FFT and then forgot about it until Bravely Default.
FFV has a pretty decent fanbase thanks to FFV Advance.
FFV had a good fanbase before that due to the fan translation patch.
FF5 would've sold gangbusters. They thought the american audience was too stupid to play it. But, playing it on ps1 at age 12 I was able to beat it.
Those people are moronic.
FF5 is best game.
>Over here it's considered a "black sheep", just because it didn't get released.
Obviously it's not considered a black sheep, that's not an actual opinion that people have. It's that some ignorant, moronic people saw the fact it didn't get localized and badly misinterpreted it as "GAME BAD" with zero context or desire to look further into it.
Then this gets perpetuated and from that point it's like a game of telephone because people are fricking morons-- you end up with some ignorant, regurgitated, second-hand nonsense that gets treated as "the consensus" when it actually couldn't be further from the truth.
What I'm trying to say is that opinions like that are so obviously invalid and detached from reality that even acknowledging them is pointless.
That's an exaggeration that partly came to be because of an old, mediocre fan translation romhack. But Kefka is kind of liked more in America because the English translation makes him more like the Joker, while in the Japanese script he's more obviously mentally insane and rapidly switches between being an emotionless, calculating psychopath and a manic, stupid manchild, and he doesn't really do any quips or one-liners. He's considered a good villain by the Japanese fanbase, but he's considered more hateable and not really fun to watch.
I finished the first game last week, playing through the second one now.
I don't want to hear it that modern FF games having western themes is betraying the weebs, it's literally what these first games themes are all about.
yeah. FF has always been a japanese take on western fantasy. the weebiest FF is actually 8.
It became more anime-y starting around VIII and really taking off with the VII sequels and crap like XIII
FF1 pulls so much shit from DnD it's hilarious.
More specifically, it takes a lot from DragonQuest, which took a lot from western RPGs like Wizardry and Akalabeth/Ultima, and those were basically the first games to successfully translate D&D to games.
i have no idea what you're talking about but in general foreign media should be translated as close to the original intent as possible, which may involve some minor localization changes to convey meaning but should not include changes to the writer's actual intent
people like the ted woolsey translation though?
there are lots of people with lots of different opinions
people keep insisting on "fixing" the translation of ff6 when realistically the only stuff that needed adjusting was item/spell names that were restricted due to censorship and character limits
you know 0 Japanese and what the original script is like.
There are MULTIPLE mistakes in the Woosley translation and huge chunks of lore are misinterpreted. You can say it's a good video game script all you want, but you can't say it's a good translation unless you want to out yourself as a giant moron.
Good thing there's 20 FF6 relocalizations (also by people who know 0 Japanese)
Woolsey wasn't trying to be 100% accurate he adapted it for western audiences
what he "adapted for western audiences" is fine. What isn't fine is the stuff he clearly got wrong from lack of knowledge in Japanese.
nobody cares except smelly little dweebs like you who sit in your parents' attic picking bits of dried cum out of your bellybutton
don't share your utterly insipid "insights" with anyone again, because you will never have anything interesting to say
incredibly moronic
what did he get wrong besides the stuff that had to be changed for nintendo's censorship rules?
check Tomato's Legends of Localization website there's way too much stuff for me to go over in a post.
>Tomato
dropped, telling me to read one hack's analysis of another hack's hackjob translation is no basis for argument.
https://legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-vi/
If you mean this I read it ages ago and there's nothing too egregious in there
There's very little that would be considered inaccurate, it was more space constraints that he was working with and a draconian censorship policy
>There's very little that would be considered inaccurate, it was more space constraints that he was working with and a draconian censorship policy
That's a pretty wrong assessment. Even if you take out all the obvious abridging, there's a bunch of inaccuracies in the script.
Which mostly had to do with the fact that he had 30 days to do a translation. The first 15 days was spent on the initial translation, which turned out to be far too much dialogue to fit in the constraints of the memory, since much more can be said with fewer Japanese characters than English letters. It taking so long was because the programmers sent him the script out of order, and he had to spent quite a bit of time figuring that out.
The last 15 days was doing two more re-writes to get everything to fit, which is absurd when you think about. All this, mind you, after he went to the trouble of translating FFV, which they didn't even use at the time.
Nah there are actual errors in it.
Evil tree>mind broke clown
hell conquering gigachad>some uppity sapling
Can't beat you there. The emperor was just a better evil.
>FF2
Emperor really is just a cut above.
>"I knew you'd start spouting bullshit the second I saw you. You've got the look."
>has the best final dungeon theme to this day
Just how did he do it
he was so evil he sucked most of the quality of the game for himself to make up for his lack of screentime
Hell has the best musicians
It's pretty cool, but saying it's the best is a little insulting, especially since it's a remaster. A polished turd is still a turd.
Even the original is the best.
FF1 and 3 both had fantastic final dungeon themes too
The SNES games are very lacking compared to them, especially 4 which doesn't even have a unique theme.
7 was pretty forgettable too in that area.
8 has a good final dungeon theme, and 9 has a great one though
>7 was pretty forgettable too in that area.
Judgment Day is great, what the frick do you mean?
It's fine. Nothing great though. Doesn't have the strength of Pandamonium of The Dark Crystals though, nor does it have the atmosphere of something like Place of Memory.
You could put Judgement Day in any random dungeon or cave in FF7 and it'd fit
Get that weak shit outta here.
I'll respect it because he's easily the most annoying enemy in Dissidia.
God damn you, Ted Woolsey!
The original English script is bad because it completely misses the point of or outright ignores multiple character motivations
>characters actually talk like real people
really thinking I fell for bait because there's no way you can read Kefka's cheesy fricking final battle speech in the original SNES translation and think that's how anyone would talk like.
I played the american version only back in the 90's and I loved it I also will call it FF3 just to make weeb gays seethe forever
still own my original copy and box with booklet and also have that strategy guide with insanely detailed maps and pictures in perfect condition
FF3 FOR LIFE!!!!
Magic is so important in this game because Square introduced the ability kill certain monsters by zapping their MP to 0, there is a big library of them can be killed this way, from elementals, ghosts, wisps, magic summoned monsters. For the average player trying this game for the first time this feature is hard to come by.
Every day it passes I get more temped to go to the store and buy pic related but is 86 fricking dollars which is 320 of my country coin. Help me anons.
>pixel remaster
Dogshit.
And is still better than FFXVI.
I never played anything past X-2.
That doesn't make Pixel Remaster shit worth buying.
Play the originals or any of the re-releases with bonus content.
why would you buy this inferior garbage instead of emulating the original games
Because playing on a PC is not comfy.
Use bluetooth to broadcast it to a smart tv instead.
Buy the PC versions so you can fix the awful font.
why bother with anything else rather than vanish+death? or maybe Ultima + economizer
Because using Gau I can 9,999 everything on the screen every turn.
something something you will never be a writer rub a dub dub thanks for the grub
>not posting the funny version of the meme
Someone should add a "Funimation" one where they change it to complain about gender politics.
>fansubs
>funimation
>4kids & Commie
Kino.
Hadena is the kino column.
>its sugoi like Yui-chan's sex
Gets me every time.
>4kids
excellent.
>"Literal" is boring
sounds about right
now explain how the honorifics are necessary on the left panels
Honorifics cannot be accurately translated.
>sure, nana my associate of similar standing.
So what. That's usually the case between any two languages that all features can't be conveyed as they are.
Went back to listen to Judgement Day and holy shit is it boring. Honestly compared to the earlier games FF7 has a weak soundtrack.
Literalgays are the worst. That being said Woolsey's script, while flavorful, has a bunch of awkward errors and actual mistranslations in it, on top of the moronic Nintendo-enforced censorship. The uncensored Ted Woolsey patch is the way to go, not just for fixing the censorship but also the legitimate mistranslations.
Is that the game with "Son of a Submariner"? How is that normal?