ORAS hate is forced. It at least added shit to the game to make the overall experience different and worth a purchase. The only think BDSP added was the Fairy which means jackshit because there's platinum roms that have already done that.
And following pokemon. And the Grand Underground. And the new postgame content with legendaries you couldn't get in the originals. And removal of HMs aka the best change in the franchise. And EXP share, the second best change in the whole franchise. And the hardest E4+champion rematch in the entire franchise. But you know, nothing added.
>EXPshare
Removes grinding. >New content
always good >Grand underground
Gives access to pokemon you couldn't get in DP >Following Pokemon
Introduced in HGSS (technically yellow but that was only the starter pikachu) and cut in every game after. Was a great feature that should never have left. >ACtually challenging E4+Champion
Shit all of /vp/ whines about and demands.
I think my favorite part of BDSP is hm removal, love it so much. I love Platinum but that's one of the only things that sucks for me is I feel like I either have to revolve my team around hm usage or have a slave and take a slot.
>BDSP has the best gym rematches >ORAS doesn't have any gym rematches >BDSP improves DP's Battle Tower into one of the best BTs ever, it even has rematches with Galactic members >ORAS copy and pastes the Maison, there's some shitty new multi battle partners I guess >BDSP has some trainer customization >ORAS has none at all >BDSP puts Pokemon in the Underground to help DP's flawed distribution >ORAS adds a slower version of Fly >/vp/ will insist ORAS is the better game
BDSP’s Tower sucks ass, anon, at least for singles. The 3v3 format is volatile as frick and can tip really quickly into bullshit unfun territory when RNG gets out of control…like in BDSP’s Tower. In practice, it just limits your team building options to the peak of performance / cheese, and even then, you’ll still lose every now and then to an unlucky roll of the dice. Maison and (especially) Tree are way better than BDSP Tower. Hell, I’d argue that SWSH Tower is better than BDSP’s because at least it can be entertaining to roll it with whatever meme team you choose.
Also >caring about character customization >caring about gym rematches
These features aren’t a negative for the game, but I truly don’t understand why some of you think they’re all that important. Comparing gameplay is more meaningful in my opinion (Ex: ORAS has a far better method of obtaining Hidden Abilities and wild held items than BDSP).
https://i.imgur.com/ZBtiSSV.jpg
Well, it was better than ORAS at least
Obvious bait is obvious. BDSP adds very little of value to DP while also adding intrusive bullshit and questionable design choices.
>forced Mega shit. Gimmicks = bad
Optional. Non-argument. Bad opinion, as well.
>There are zero reasons to play BDSP over Platinum
no HMs and better QoL in general
Much better npc teams & rematches
3D Graphics
good BT (although Platinum has BF)
>good BT
Wrong. There’s some fun to be had, but it’s an unpleasantly autistic experience overall. >3D Graphics
Too “faithful”. The art direction of BDSP is arguably a downgrade in the overworld. You could say it features the best looking battles on Switch, but that’s a low bar. >no HMs
True, but having to sift through slow text + cutscenes still makes it annoying. >better QoL in general
Again, low bar. DPP had shit QoL, and BDSP really doesn’t have QoL on par with other modern games. The amount of time I’ve lost to picking and planting berries because of text + jingle is maddening. Many such cases in BDSP.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Optional.
lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're never forced to use mega evolution aside from soaring with Lati@s and flying with megafug into space.
9 months ago
Anonymous
its in the game already and NPCs use it
its not "optional"
9 months ago
Anonymous
Every try clicking “Fly”? A couple of short cutscenes scare you? Boo-fricking-hoo, moron. You aren’t forced to use megas vs gym leaders, E4, Maison, etc.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Hoenn without gimmick > Hoenn with gimmick
simple as
its like wishing for BDSP to have had dynamax. moronic
9 months ago
Anonymous
What about the people who wished for megas to return for BDSP? Or even the ones who wanted more megas for Pokemon like the Sinnoh starters, Luxray, and Arceus?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Hoenn without gimmick > Hoenn with gimmick
So why did you play ORAS, dipshit? RSE hasn’t gone anywhere, and it was made clear before release that megas would be in ORAS.
I fricking hate that remakes have become routine releases because I don’t think the old games have aged all that poorly, if at all. However, why bother remaking them if you don’t give long-time fans a reason to play?
>its like wishing for BDSP to have had dynamax
No one would. Only the dumbest children and delusional VCGgays liked Maxing. BDSP is bad for reasons beyond not including megas, even if I personally think it could have benefited from at least including the option of using them in post-game. BDSP walks a line of trying to be faithful in some moronic areas (primarily in pokemon, attack, and item availability) while also adding in truly baffling new content (forced exp share all and affection, an RNG frickfest of a battle tower that is made even worse by removed mon, attacks, and items).
9 months ago
Anonymous
>No one would.
Then why did you want Megashit in ORAS (or in BDSP for that matter, that makes even less sense) ?
Gimmick shit is still gimmick shit
It shouldnt even be in the new gens, why force it into old games as well.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>why force it into old games as well
I could get into the weeds about why I think mega evolution is more than a gimmick and should have had been expanded on, but I don’t see why I would bother when your argument is essentially that you’d rather play the same game twice. To which I say, just play the old games again, anon. I’ll also reiterate that I think remakes are a waste of dev time, but if they insist on making these games, I think there needs to be serious thought and work put into making them worth revisiting (as opposed to playing the original versions). BDSP doesn’t do that.
I didn’t touch Singles in BDSP’s Tower after a couple dozen streaks because I just think 3v3 is an awful format regardless of game, but I did love doubles enough to get a 100 streak
>3v3 is an awful format
I agree, though I understand it’s done to make these facilities less of a grind (in theory). Any amount of RNG has the potential of ruining a streak early in 3v3, and in BDSP, you have ample opportunities for that to happen (ohko spam, bright power, evasion spam, etc) on top of generally strong opponents. You are asking to get fricked if you don’t look up each opponent before battling in BDSP’s singles Tower. Maison and Tree were challenging, yet still fun to play blind.
You’re correct in that doubles allows for more freedom (and fun) in team building for these facilities. I tend to do singles solely because I know my sets will be useful for most single player content.
9 months ago
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>its like wishing for BDSP to have had dynamax. moronic
It having dynamax would have at least made the game not just DP without any of the Platinum improvements.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>it would be utter dogshit and much worse than now, but AT LEAST it would be LE DIFFERENT
kys zoomie
>just DP without any of the Platinum improvements.
It has many improvements over DP, some shared with Platinums, some brand new (and some of Platinums being missing)
But of course you wouldnt know that as you're retadred + didnt play it.
>BDSP is much better than DP and a sidegrade to Platinum with different changes
That’s an incredibly low bar. I would argue that ORAS is much better than RSE in that the modern features are (a) more impactful (DPP already had the special split, for example) and (b) better implemented (ORAS doesn’t have forced exp share or affection). ORAS also benefits from having access to all pokemon and moves that existed at the time (not necessarily available on cart, unfortunately), a large graphical overhaul, fantastic QoL (Dex Nav), and new pokemon (forms). I could probably go on, but the singular thing I missed from Emerald was the frontier. It is (and continues to be) disappointing that (most) modern games make breeding / training easily accessible, yet we see fewer and fewer in-game facilities requiring that level of optimization.
I didn’t touch Singles in BDSP’s Tower after a couple dozen streaks because I just think 3v3 is an awful format regardless of game, but I did love doubles enough to get a 100 streak
>There are zero reasons to play BDSP over Platinum
no HMs and better QoL in general
Much better NPC teams & rematches
3D Graphics
good BT (although Platinum has BF)
>DP has contests >BDSP nerfs contests so hard they basically don't exist anymore >RSE has contests >ORAS keeps them intact and even adds shit like a storyline or the pure kino of letting your Pokemon mega evolve on stage if they max out the audience's hype
ORAS had its faults but I don't think there's a single person who thought BDSP was an upgrade. The remake tier list is something like
HGSS > ORAS = FRLG > shit > LGPE > BDSP
BDSP was so bad literally no one is asking for anymore remakes out of fear they'll defile Unova.
>Berry farming takes WAY longer in BDSP >Obtaining high quality poffins requires specific mon with high friendship
Don’t forget these. I didn’t think contests were amazing in ORAS, but they somehow managed to make them feel like less of a game and more tedious at the same time.
>BDSP was so bad literally no one is asking for anymore remakes out of fear they'll defile Unova.
I have no faith, but my cope is that they plan on going all out with BW/B2W2 follow-ons, including all pokemon up to Gen 9 and all gimmicks for use in the world tournament. Of course, the rebalancing of dynamax is beyond the devs, and they’re probably too lazy to do anything other than copy-paste BW/B2W2 with new visuals and a few modern features that no one asked for like affection.
>BDSP has the best gym rematches >ORAS doesn't have any gym rematches >BDSP improves DP's Battle Tower into one of the best BTs ever, it even has rematches with Galactic members >ORAS copy and pastes the Maison, there's some shitty new multi battle partners I guess >BDSP has some trainer customization >ORAS has none at all >BDSP puts Pokemon in the Underground to help DP's flawed distribution >ORAS adds a slower version of Fly >/vp/ will insist ORAS is the better game
Contests became piss easy in every other iteration that isn't the original one from RSE. It's like GF unlearned how to make fun side minigames after Gen III. Even the Underground was mildly convoluted and Festival Plaza ruined what could possibly have been the best online functionality in the series, beating even Gen VI's online mode.
I have no idea why they thought LGPE was a good idea. Sure, it is accessible for very young children, but the target age for the franchise has always been fairly young. The catching mechanics are the game, and if you don’t like that, you won’t find much of value. LGPE doesn’t even have the decency of offering unique pokemon or ribbons that you can collect for use in future games.
Pretty much this with me. I tried replaying, but those catching mechanics really ruined it for me. Doesn't help the game forces you to catch a shit ton, like I wanted to use Squirtle, but I need to have caught 60 Pokemon I barely caught any, so had to do that for a while, and GO catching sucks so hard, especially with motion controls. Pretty sure Blaine also stops and makes you catch a certain amount of Pokemon and I know some gyms require you to have caught a certain type, which is dumb.
And following Pokemon should not be a positive thing for either SwSh or BDSP with the horrible way they were implemented. The only games that got it right were Yellow, HGSS, and LGPE.
It's still there though as an option. Plus it doesn't look bad with all Pokemon.
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Anonymous
That would've been a good excuse if it was the first 3D game with following Pokemon, but it's the 3rd one. And they all use the same animation from Sun and Moon (or don't in Ekans case).
Been nuzlocking it with mods (fixed following speeds, proper scaling, no affection, no exp all, platinum encounter table) and it's already been miles better than my recent SwSh playthrough. It's just baffling how these small changes just drastically make the game enjoyable, to me at least.
>doesn't have platinum's expanded pokedex (and the better teams that come with it) >doesn't have platinum's story improvements >doesn't have platinum's battle frontier
but at least it has gay ass party-wide exp. share. and following pokemon, the single most overrated gimmick in the entire franchise, which they don't even do properly.
anyone saying BDSP is a "sidegrade" or is in any way comparable to platinum is a fricking moron and should be either laughed at or ignored outright.
>better NPC teams
Barely even matters when exp share all and affection are forced.
>Dont care about BF
Bad take unless you’re a pvpgay. Battle Facilities are a great reason to actually utilize the improved breeding mechanics of modern games, but as has been discussed here already, BDSP’s Tower mostly fails to be engaging compared to other similar Facilities.
How?
The E4 and champion are challenging even with the legendary in your team.
it's the only good game since oras and oras is the only good game since hgss.
ORAS hate is forced. It at least added shit to the game to make the overall experience different and worth a purchase. The only think BDSP added was the Fairy which means jackshit because there's platinum roms that have already done that.
It was the first good pokemon game since HGSS.
And following pokemon. And the Grand Underground. And the new postgame content with legendaries you couldn't get in the originals. And removal of HMs aka the best change in the franchise. And EXP share, the second best change in the whole franchise. And the hardest E4+champion rematch in the entire franchise. But you know, nothing added.
None of these changes are good except HM removal. -none- of them.
>EXPshare
Removes grinding.
>New content
always good
>Grand underground
Gives access to pokemon you couldn't get in DP
>Following Pokemon
Introduced in HGSS (technically yellow but that was only the starter pikachu) and cut in every game after. Was a great feature that should never have left.
>ACtually challenging E4+Champion
Shit all of /vp/ whines about and demands.
I think my favorite part of BDSP is hm removal, love it so much. I love Platinum but that's one of the only things that sucks for me is I feel like I either have to revolve my team around hm usage or have a slave and take a slot.
>shartgoldgay
>is moronic
I hate ORAS but i have to call bullshit on your shitty ass bait.
>not even the same amount of pokémon programmed in OrAs
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA STUPID SHILL
True
>here's your god pokemon bro
cute and better than orass
What an awful design choice
>BDSP has the best gym rematches
>ORAS doesn't have any gym rematches
>BDSP improves DP's Battle Tower into one of the best BTs ever, it even has rematches with Galactic members
>ORAS copy and pastes the Maison, there's some shitty new multi battle partners I guess
>BDSP has some trainer customization
>ORAS has none at all
>BDSP puts Pokemon in the Underground to help DP's flawed distribution
>ORAS adds a slower version of Fly
>/vp/ will insist ORAS is the better game
>>/vp/ will insist ORAS is the better game
underaged contrarians
BDSP’s Tower sucks ass, anon, at least for singles. The 3v3 format is volatile as frick and can tip really quickly into bullshit unfun territory when RNG gets out of control…like in BDSP’s Tower. In practice, it just limits your team building options to the peak of performance / cheese, and even then, you’ll still lose every now and then to an unlucky roll of the dice. Maison and (especially) Tree are way better than BDSP Tower. Hell, I’d argue that SWSH Tower is better than BDSP’s because at least it can be entertaining to roll it with whatever meme team you choose.
Also
>caring about character customization
>caring about gym rematches
These features aren’t a negative for the game, but I truly don’t understand why some of you think they’re all that important. Comparing gameplay is more meaningful in my opinion (Ex: ORAS has a far better method of obtaining Hidden Abilities and wild held items than BDSP).
Obvious bait is obvious. BDSP adds very little of value to DP while also adding intrusive bullshit and questionable design choices.
BDSP is much better than DP and a sidegrade to Platinum with different changes
ORAS is way worse than Emerald and in a few ways worse than RS
>and in a few ways worse than RS
I'll bite. In what ways is it worse than RS?
some redesigns
easier game, too easy even for pokemon
forced Mega shit. Gimmicks = bad
>forced Mega shit. Gimmicks = bad
Optional. Non-argument. Bad opinion, as well.
>good BT
Wrong. There’s some fun to be had, but it’s an unpleasantly autistic experience overall.
>3D Graphics
Too “faithful”. The art direction of BDSP is arguably a downgrade in the overworld. You could say it features the best looking battles on Switch, but that’s a low bar.
>no HMs
True, but having to sift through slow text + cutscenes still makes it annoying.
>better QoL in general
Again, low bar. DPP had shit QoL, and BDSP really doesn’t have QoL on par with other modern games. The amount of time I’ve lost to picking and planting berries because of text + jingle is maddening. Many such cases in BDSP.
>Optional.
lol
You're never forced to use mega evolution aside from soaring with Lati@s and flying with megafug into space.
its in the game already and NPCs use it
its not "optional"
Every try clicking “Fly”? A couple of short cutscenes scare you? Boo-fricking-hoo, moron. You aren’t forced to use megas vs gym leaders, E4, Maison, etc.
Hoenn without gimmick > Hoenn with gimmick
simple as
its like wishing for BDSP to have had dynamax. moronic
What about the people who wished for megas to return for BDSP? Or even the ones who wanted more megas for Pokemon like the Sinnoh starters, Luxray, and Arceus?
>Hoenn without gimmick > Hoenn with gimmick
So why did you play ORAS, dipshit? RSE hasn’t gone anywhere, and it was made clear before release that megas would be in ORAS.
I fricking hate that remakes have become routine releases because I don’t think the old games have aged all that poorly, if at all. However, why bother remaking them if you don’t give long-time fans a reason to play?
>its like wishing for BDSP to have had dynamax
No one would. Only the dumbest children and delusional VCGgays liked Maxing. BDSP is bad for reasons beyond not including megas, even if I personally think it could have benefited from at least including the option of using them in post-game. BDSP walks a line of trying to be faithful in some moronic areas (primarily in pokemon, attack, and item availability) while also adding in truly baffling new content (forced exp share all and affection, an RNG frickfest of a battle tower that is made even worse by removed mon, attacks, and items).
>No one would.
Then why did you want Megashit in ORAS (or in BDSP for that matter, that makes even less sense) ?
Gimmick shit is still gimmick shit
It shouldnt even be in the new gens, why force it into old games as well.
>why force it into old games as well
I could get into the weeds about why I think mega evolution is more than a gimmick and should have had been expanded on, but I don’t see why I would bother when your argument is essentially that you’d rather play the same game twice. To which I say, just play the old games again, anon. I’ll also reiterate that I think remakes are a waste of dev time, but if they insist on making these games, I think there needs to be serious thought and work put into making them worth revisiting (as opposed to playing the original versions). BDSP doesn’t do that.
>3v3 is an awful format
I agree, though I understand it’s done to make these facilities less of a grind (in theory). Any amount of RNG has the potential of ruining a streak early in 3v3, and in BDSP, you have ample opportunities for that to happen (ohko spam, bright power, evasion spam, etc) on top of generally strong opponents. You are asking to get fricked if you don’t look up each opponent before battling in BDSP’s singles Tower. Maison and Tree were challenging, yet still fun to play blind.
You’re correct in that doubles allows for more freedom (and fun) in team building for these facilities. I tend to do singles solely because I know my sets will be useful for most single player content.
>its like wishing for BDSP to have had dynamax. moronic
It having dynamax would have at least made the game not just DP without any of the Platinum improvements.
>it would be utter dogshit and much worse than now, but AT LEAST it would be LE DIFFERENT
kys zoomie
>just DP without any of the Platinum improvements.
It has many improvements over DP, some shared with Platinums, some brand new (and some of Platinums being missing)
But of course you wouldnt know that as you're retadred + didnt play it.
>BDSP is much better than DP and a sidegrade to Platinum with different changes
That’s an incredibly low bar. I would argue that ORAS is much better than RSE in that the modern features are (a) more impactful (DPP already had the special split, for example) and (b) better implemented (ORAS doesn’t have forced exp share or affection). ORAS also benefits from having access to all pokemon and moves that existed at the time (not necessarily available on cart, unfortunately), a large graphical overhaul, fantastic QoL (Dex Nav), and new pokemon (forms). I could probably go on, but the singular thing I missed from Emerald was the frontier. It is (and continues to be) disappointing that (most) modern games make breeding / training easily accessible, yet we see fewer and fewer in-game facilities requiring that level of optimization.
I didn’t touch Singles in BDSP’s Tower after a couple dozen streaks because I just think 3v3 is an awful format regardless of game, but I did love doubles enough to get a 100 streak
>BDSP has trainer customization
>ORAS has May
ORAS still wins
also, every other BDSP feature you just listed pales in comparison to DexNav
the secret base battles are fairly fun, plus it's nice to see how other people decorate their bases
>ORAS has May
>BDSP has Dawn
BDSP wins.
>no multi battle tower with a friend
have a nice day for tour shitty disingenous post, I dropped bdsp the moment I found out about that
I wouldn't know.
ORAS was fun though.
It really wasn't
Dexnav and being able to fight NPCs people set up at their bases was genuinely very fun to mess with in ORAS.
There are some reasons to play ORAS over Emerald
There are zero reasons to play BDSP over Platinum
>There are zero reasons to play BDSP over Platinum
no HMs and better QoL in general
Much better NPC teams & rematches
3D Graphics
good BT (although Platinum has BF)
Anything cool like the climactic Mega Rayquaza vs. Deoxys fight in space on BDSP? That saved the game for me.
lvl 100 Shadow Giratina fight
The fact that the didn't remove affection ruins the whole thing to me.
BDSP is a travesty, to call it anything besides bottom of the barrel garbage seems absurd.
Imagine making a copy pasted downgrade, selling it for for a full price and having people defend it.
.. and yet it mogs FRLG, ORAS and especially LGBT
>dexnavtrannies
Silly anon here's a (you). They are however the "best" Pokemon switch titles
At least you could turn off exp share in ORAS
>Discord trannies attempt to shit on Unova flopped, so now they're moving onto shitting on ORAS and praying no one notices
trannies attempt to shit on Unova flopped
everyone already hated Unova
especially after the Irisgay started spamming vore
>DP has contests
>BDSP nerfs contests so hard they basically don't exist anymore
>RSE has contests
>ORAS keeps them intact and even adds shit like a storyline or the pure kino of letting your Pokemon mega evolve on stage if they max out the audience's hype
ORAS had its faults but I don't think there's a single person who thought BDSP was an upgrade. The remake tier list is something like
HGSS > ORAS = FRLG > shit > LGPE > BDSP
BDSP was so bad literally no one is asking for anymore remakes out of fear they'll defile Unova.
I hope I get to see sois freak about their precious Unova being "ruined"
oh no i hope they don't ruin the contests in muttnova
tbf contests were already downgraded going from gen 3 to 4. Same with secret bases
>Berry farming takes WAY longer in BDSP
>Obtaining high quality poffins requires specific mon with high friendship
Don’t forget these. I didn’t think contests were amazing in ORAS, but they somehow managed to make them feel like less of a game and more tedious at the same time.
>BDSP was so bad literally no one is asking for anymore remakes out of fear they'll defile Unova.
I have no faith, but my cope is that they plan on going all out with BW/B2W2 follow-ons, including all pokemon up to Gen 9 and all gimmicks for use in the world tournament. Of course, the rebalancing of dynamax is beyond the devs, and they’re probably too lazy to do anything other than copy-paste BW/B2W2 with new visuals and a few modern features that no one asked for like affection.
Plus there will never be a game with the full national dex again.
Everything here
matters more than contests.
Contests became piss easy in every other iteration that isn't the original one from RSE. It's like GF unlearned how to make fun side minigames after Gen III. Even the Underground was mildly convoluted and Festival Plaza ruined what could possibly have been the best online functionality in the series, beating even Gen VI's online mode.
For me, it’s
HGSS >>> ORAS > FRLG >>> BDSP > LGPE
I have no idea why they thought LGPE was a good idea. Sure, it is accessible for very young children, but the target age for the franchise has always been fairly young. The catching mechanics are the game, and if you don’t like that, you won’t find much of value. LGPE doesn’t even have the decency of offering unique pokemon or ribbons that you can collect for use in future games.
Pretty much this with me. I tried replaying, but those catching mechanics really ruined it for me. Doesn't help the game forces you to catch a shit ton, like I wanted to use Squirtle, but I need to have caught 60 Pokemon I barely caught any, so had to do that for a while, and GO catching sucks so hard, especially with motion controls. Pretty sure Blaine also stops and makes you catch a certain amount of Pokemon and I know some gyms require you to have caught a certain type, which is dumb.
Fr fr
HGSS > FRLG > BDSP > ORAS > LGPE
ORAStrannies get the rope
BDSP is closer to the gen 4 golden age
Orass is just XY but in Hoenn lol
That makes BDSP better
>there are people on this board that not only defend this but calls it good
I really shouldn't be surprised
Orass doesnt even have following pokemon lol
BDSP mogs
SwSh has following Pokemon as well. Does that mean it also mogs the games that don't?
its just 1 feature
BDSP is > ORAS in many many things that were detailed ITT
And following Pokemon should not be a positive thing for either SwSh or BDSP with the horrible way they were implemented. The only games that got it right were Yellow, HGSS, and LGPE.
It's still there though as an option. Plus it doesn't look bad with all Pokemon.
That would've been a good excuse if it was the first 3D game with following Pokemon, but it's the 3rd one. And they all use the same animation from Sun and Moon (or don't in Ekans case).
Never said it was perfect, I just find a lot of other stuff I like about it.
it was also better than FRLG
Art thou a moron?
affection is the main glaring flaw
>affection is the main glaring flaw
Thats true, but aside from that 1 hiccup its pretty solid
besides, some people enjoy it. Its like shonen plot armor in anime
Unironically have a nice day.
It somehow managed to be worse than ORAS... And those were pretty bad.
Been nuzlocking it with mods (fixed following speeds, proper scaling, no affection, no exp all, platinum encounter table) and it's already been miles better than my recent SwSh playthrough. It's just baffling how these small changes just drastically make the game enjoyable, to me at least.
>doesn't have platinum's expanded pokedex (and the better teams that come with it)
>doesn't have platinum's story improvements
>doesn't have platinum's battle frontier
but at least it has gay ass party-wide exp. share. and following pokemon, the single most overrated gimmick in the entire franchise, which they don't even do properly.
anyone saying BDSP is a "sidegrade" or is in any way comparable to platinum is a fricking moron and should be either laughed at or ignored outright.
I'd play BDSP over Platinum due to much better NPC teams and no HMs (HMs must die)
Dont care about BF and pokemon story never mattered
>doesn't have platinum's expanded pokedex
It does, but in the underground
>It does, but in the underground
bandage fix to a problem that was already solved a decade ago.
Yes, it would be better to use Platinum as base.
It still has many improvements over DP
And is a much better game than ORAS or LGPE or SWSH or SV
>And is a much better game than ORAS
you're genuinely delusional
cope ORASgay
>better NPC teams
Barely even matters when exp share all and affection are forced.
>Dont care about BF
Bad take unless you’re a pvpgay. Battle Facilities are a great reason to actually utilize the improved breeding mechanics of modern games, but as has been discussed here already, BDSP’s Tower mostly fails to be engaging compared to other similar Facilities.
>pokemon story never mattered
Yes.
Gamefreak could have made it decent, they could have let you disable exp share and amie boosts, but they didn't so It's broken as frick game