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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Two videos next to each other in my Youtube feed today about this device. One by MVG, the other by Adam Koralik. As typical for MVG, his video was concise, detailed, well produced, and well articulated. Meanwhile, Koralik's video was also typical, with him waffling on and on while waving his arms around, not saying much of substance while looking like he lives in a van and hasn't seen the inside of a shower in months.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hadn't even heard of this thing until I saw John Hanwiener's video on it.

      omg get off of youtube

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why? I didn't even know this existed without it.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      i can't stand adam koralik

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        adam koralik has a girlfriend who does onlyfans
        he probably is paying her

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      MVG is a mindless LRG shill now

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >LRG
        what the hell is even that

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Limited Run Games, if I had to guess.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Company that heavily promotes itself on being the last bastions of physical game preservation yet has an entire business model revolved around artificial scarcity to make people impulse buy shit like a rerelease of Bubsy.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm aware of Limited Run Games and your take on them is accurate but I haven't noticed MVG shilling for them in all his videos

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh yeah dunno where that anon got that idea. He did join them but outside of one video talking about it the most he does is wear a LRG shirt.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              He's employed by them and is the lead developer on "Carbon Engine" projects, which is mostly just in-house emulators with an API that simplifies modern features like achievements and localization that don't require modifying the ROM.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Koralik is in full damage control mode in the comments. Sperging that he didn't notice anything, and it must be a problem with MVG's equipment despite the same issue is happening with his footage as well.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Him getting criticism for speaking authoritatively on things which he is not an expert is nothing new. He's the modern version of the smug Electronics Boutique employee who thinks he is an expert on the games industry. Except the EB employee had a warped perspective from talking to clueless moms all day, not sure how his own ego is still so inflated.

        I give him credit for having some decent takes on things in the past and I'm sure some people enjoy his low-effort rambling presentation style.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Koralik is in full damage control mode in the comments
        You weren't lying.

        This is the best part:

        > I have to admit, I find your conspiracy theory entertaining. Rather than just tell my experience, I apparently decided to lie about a device that sucks so I could keep a device that I don't need and I can't use because then...I have a device I can't use and don't need. Hopefully in the future though it means I can get more devices I don't need and can't use because they're garbage. That would definitely be worth throwing away my career for.

        He is leaving out the fact that early access to tech gives him the ability to have videos ready during the wave of interest where they get the most views. This is how companies effectively can control who gets to have a Youtube career because if you get blacklisted for early access to games/tech, it's almost impossible to compete against those who do.

        Just look at all the shilling going on right now for for the new Raspberry Pi 5 even though the Raspberry Pi Foundation has been shafting their customers for years now in favor of "industrial clients" and the RPi 5 isn't even a good deal anymore when looking at price vs performance. It was the same situation, everyone with early access (like the biggest corporate shill of them all, ETA Prime) released their videos within a few hours of each other, all of them talking about the Pi 5 as if it's way better than it actually is.

        > I got news for you dude, not everything is a scam or a conspiracy. I simply gave an honest review based on my experience. Just as MVG gave an honest review based on his experience. Not everyone is out to get you dude.

        This part of his comment might actually be true. It could simply be that he isn't equipped with the expertise to do reviews like this.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >This part of his comment might actually be true. It could simply be that he isn't equipped with the expertise to do reviews like this.
          That seems to be it, he's always lacked knowledge and even basic level of understanding on these things. He's the segalordx of hardware/modding and doesn't know it, while segalordx is content with being a dopey guy talking about his favorite games, adam wants to be seen as someone more critical but can't bring himself up to meet that point.

          It's not meant to be, just accept you're a guy to talk about how you love getting hdmi with this one zany $200 device from your wii.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Somebody should tell him that trying to engage with fans like this is counterproductive. Just say "I discussed my personal experience and opinions in the video; if I made factual mistake, please provide proof and I will do my best to address it." All the "noooo I'm not a shill I swear!! I wasn't lying!!" leads nowhere because the people accusing you of such won't be swayed.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            > Somebody should tell him that trying to engage with fans like this is counterproductive
            and to get a haircut and stop larping as a hobo

            > "noooo I'm not a shill I swear!! I wasn't lying!!"
            ... while literally wearing the logo of the company on your shirt

            Xbox sucks therefore this s-o-y gadget device also sucks.

            christ, how hard is it to get a clean digital signal out of an Xbox anyway? both of these look like shit, with the one on the right being slightly less shit.

            The one on the right looks washed out. There is definitely some details from the clouds and such missing. The one on the left also seems to be missing some darker details. Hard to say which is better.

            A few years ago I bought a bunch of the Wii HDMI adapters and used my soldering iron and some electrical tape to create a bunch of HDMI adapters. They were "good enough" for my purpose which was to make setting up a Halo 2 LAN party easier with the LCD displays we had available. Though, we had a few Xboxes connected via component to some CRT televisions and those ones had by far the superior image quality, even with $3 ebay component cables and low-end CRTs. At the LAN party everyone was fighting over the CRTs.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, I run my old XBOXes on a CRT monitor via component video and the image looks pretty great.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yup, his review was definitely shilling for EON's overpriced & severely flawed Xbox HDMI adapter. The best HDMI Xbox adapter is Chimeric's Xbox adapter & more affordable at that. MVG had a more trustworthy review. I see no reason to spend $200 for an adapter that 1) doesn't have a correct brightness level. 2) I don't plan on hosting a lan party. 3) I don't have no use for using two monitors for the same console.

          This device should have been simple & cheaper, but nope they botched it.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hadn't even heard of this thing until I saw John Hanwiener's video on it.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    was there a review embargo for this? A bunch of peeps are just now talking about it.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >was there a review embargo for this
      that's usually how it works. The reviewers who already had videos ready to go are the ones who got early access to the game or tech or whatever was embargoed. This is why early reviews tend to be positive. The reviewers know that negative reviews means no more early access to shit, which means they lose a major competitive advantage since most views they will ever generate on these review videos come during the first few days during peak hype. This is also why reviews on youtube in general are not trustworthy, especially the channels that specialize in reviews--companies have already figured out how to game the system.

      [...]
      omg get off of youtube

      stfu. MVG has made some great videos over the years. Not all yootoobers are total shit, just the vast majority of them.
      > omg
      you sound like a teenage girl. I bet you start your sentences with "like"

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        omg stfu

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know why but that nacho guy annoys me

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        how?
        he's so inoffensive

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      how?
      he's so inoffensive

      He actually has one of the better videos on the EON XBHD. The teardown was interesting, especially how they are using what appears to be an off the shelf connector that they modified using flush cutters. Not what you'd expect on a $190 device though I doubt it matters.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I cant believe people would spend this much on junk.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Let's have this discussion.

      What sorts of "retro accessories" are actually bullshit and sensible people should steer clear of?

      I'm trying to get my hands on a MemCard Pro 2. Is that stupid?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are we talking "modern" retro accessories? Personally, i wouldn't know. I bought one of those 64 Brawler controllers and a cheap aftermarket Saturn composite cable once and thats it. Most things like this seem super niche regardless of quality since id imagine most still playing an original xbox just use a crt. Of course im sure im one to talk cause id kill for a modern manufactured Vectrex controller.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >wifi memcard bigger than you will ever need when you could just get a magicgate one or an offbrand 64mb one for 5 bucks
        yes that's stupid

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        no, I have an early memcard pro and it cost a little more than the pro2 despite having fewer features. PS2 memory cards are substantial but there's a lot of games so you will inevitably fill up and management of them is annoying and tedious with how the folders are named BSLUSSCEE1032014066_BASLUSAACC and not crash twinsanity

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >how the folders are named BSLUSSCEE1032014066_BASLUSAACC and not crash twinsanity

          It blows my fricking mind how nobody ever made a PS2 save manager. It doesn't need to be fancy I just want some cheap program that can just decipher the internal filenames while you're copying them.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's tons you can read the metadata from, the PS2 lists it in the browser after all.

            I tried that then a game had a resolution switch and I lost picture entirely...

            Shit man they can fail, I've seen a few of the popular guys do repairs on them. Hope you didn't spend too much.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              No, it didn't break, I'm still using it. I'm saying those presets aren't designed to compensate for resolution switching, even though it's not unheard of in 5th gen games.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's the OSSC which chokes whenever a resolution switch happens, happens to mine too so I just cope with it until it regains sync. I believe running at a lower res upscale can do the trick instead of 3xing 480i for example

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That's the OSSC which chokes whenever a resolution switch happens

                That's not the OSSCs fault, it does not do any extra processing beyond passing the signal through doubled/tripled/quadripled. It's your TV that has to sync the display when the resolution changes. If you used the component cables directly, you would get the exact same effect even without the OSSC. This happened on CRTs too.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >This happened on CRTs too.
                Mine only blank when going from sd to 480p+, it's a brief interrupt too, much faster than my ossc. ossc trips on 240->480i because it handles both signals separately which is especially annoying for old games.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ossc trips on 240->480i because it handles both signals separately which is especially annoying for old games.

                no, it has to switch because the blanking signal changes, if you set the OSSC to pass through every signal without processing or connect your component/scart cables directly, it will blank the screen the exact same way.

                the only "separate" handling it has for 480i is allowing you to select different processing mode, which is necessary cause you have more lines. ie. 240p line5x -> 1920x1200 is not a problem but with 480i you couldn't get that high resolution. Plus it has to do deinterlacing on top of all that.
                If you used for ex. line3x or line4x for all modes, it would use the same physical resolution, but it would still have to blank briefly because the vertical blanking interval changes which makes resyncing necessary. again, this also happens if you do not use the OSSC.

                It's not he OSSCs fault. It's your TVs fault.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Me personally I don't really get the appeal of buying a 4k upscaler for your Sega Genesis or Super Nintendo.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Having a quality analog to HDMI device with a lot of picture options is really nice. Even though I always play on a CRT, I bought a retrotink 5x just as an hdmi adapter for recording/streaming and I absolutely don't regret it.

          Invest on one of those Magnavox DVD/VCR combos with HDMI output, connect the composite to your CRT and the HDMI to a HD60 card, and bingo!

          Dunno if there's anything special about Magnavox, but I have a Toshiba DVD/VCR with HDMI out. I never really use it as an analog adapter (I found it after buying the 5x) so I don't know how well it handles lag or resolution switching, but it's probably still a better solution for HDMI conversion than a shitty adapter if you can find one.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        never had issues with composite on any of my consoles

        not really an "accessory", but makemhz's shitty modchips and his awful locked down firmware. just get an openxenium. theres not much reason to hardmod nowadays anyway with how good softmods are.

        I'm aware of Limited Run Games and your take on them is accurate but I haven't noticed MVG shilling for them in all his videos

        he shills them a lot on twitter

        I guess it's for people that want the best signal from their Xbox but for some reason don't want to do an HDMI mod? But if that's the case then this theoretical customer wouldn't even need an OSSC, a GBS Control, or a Retrotink 5X/4K, they could just grab a cheap Component to HDMI adapter off of Amazon and some Xbox component cables.

        theres already good external hdmi adapters available. i've heard good things about the electron shepard and chimeric adapters.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just get an openxenium

          You're suggesting this over Project Stellar?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I installed an openxenium about a week ago. It was easy. The hardest part was finding a thin enough wire for d0, luckily I had some enamel magnet wire that was like 32+ gauge.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Those adapters are good yeah, at least from what I heard. Which makes it weirder that they're far cheaper than Eon's Xbox HDMI thing, since they aren't mass produced but worked by enthusiasts IIRC.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why not get a SD2PSX instead?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          What's the benefits of it?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            It can be used with the PS1 and PS2 (just be sure it's in the correct mode).
            Also automatically creates individual files if you're launching games with XStation.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Any integration with OPL or ability to recognize the game running?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think so, but it's open source so maybe in the future. But it can be used to launch exploits like FMCB.
                And to be honest, PS2 Memory cards can hold quite a big number of saves and don't quickly run out of space like PS1.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It sounds like everything that company has been putting out is actually pretty low quality which is weird since I've been happy with my GCHD mk-II from them.

        Can't really say what to avoid since I've been mostly happy with my purchases: the GCHD mentioned above, GCLoader PnP (also a cheap plastic tray to fill the space of the DVD drive), and an OSSC.
        Will admit at the time I didn't realize how much I'd miss out on not having composite or S-video on the OSSC. I could just buy the Koryu but was holding out for the OSSC Pro to have those ports and we just got notice that it absolutely won't so now I'm considering actually pulling the cash together for a retrotink4k and selling my OSSC to recoup a bit of the cost.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Useless accessories
        N64 brawler controller. I really don’t mind the N64 controller. I even tried a HORI one and prefer the original one.
        Expensive hdmi mods
        >Can be useful but not as important
        Blueretro adapter (I only use it for the OG Xbox since I prefer l/r buttons instead of white and black buttons)

        For Mistergays like myself, my favorite controller is the 8bitdo m30 controller. If you are a emu gay, it is good too, I didn’t like it for switch games though.
        >Useful
        Retrotink 2x/5x/ossc or whatever scaler, it really helps mostly with lag and it provides a better image. I connected the n64 to a retrotink 5x using composite and it looks good and I was able to action command correctly in paper mario 64.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >eceleb bullshit
    Uh frick right off

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    the frick is the point of this? I can just use component cables directly or through the OSSC with 2x upscaled 480p.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The OSSC is too complicated.

      There, I said it.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not too bad, I just followed a firebrandx setup and it's fine

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I tried that then a game had a resolution switch and I lost picture entirely...

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I ended up switching to a retrotink only downside is the VGA dreamcast, so I kept the OSSC for that.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't say complex as much as it is just annoying/tedious. Having to load all your profiles into an SD card (which has to be written to in a special way for the thing to understand), then whenever you want to switch consoles you have to change profiles, which as simple as it may be, I feel is too much of a hassle because that means it's an extra remote on my AV setup (on top of TV, Audio Receiver, HDMI switch). Only reason I keep it around is it does wonders with weird resolutions like my Japanese PCs.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Only reason I keep it around is it does wonders with weird resolutions like my Japanese PCs.

          any more info on that? I've got some original displays but my 'tism knows they'll take dump one day and I just don't want to ship anymore from japan. Can it do digital RGB 15Khz, 24khz, 31khz, etc? I wonder about IBM stuff too. Can it handle "proper" EGA from a real card? I really want a swiss army knife, but it seems like all these devices are catered to playing sanic in rgb or weird nuances in console resolution and interlace switching. MCE2VGA seemed like a good start but I emailed some store years ago about compatibility with japanese PCs and they said no one had ever tested them

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, but once it's setup it just works. I took FireBrandxs profiles and only had to adjust one parameter because I was getting frequent signal drops. I don't ever have to really think about it aside from picking the profile in the menu. I'm not usually switching between ten different consoles so having to open up the menu once a month is worth it considering how relatively cheap it is.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guess it's for people that want the best signal from their Xbox but for some reason don't want to do an HDMI mod? But if that's the case then this theoretical customer wouldn't even need an OSSC, a GBS Control, or a Retrotink 5X/4K, they could just grab a cheap Component to HDMI adapter off of Amazon and some Xbox component cables.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Xbox sucks therefore this s-o-y gadget device also sucks.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      christ, how hard is it to get a clean digital signal out of an Xbox anyway? both of these look like shit, with the one on the right being slightly less shit.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a 480p console, the right is a clean signal.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am FRICKING TIRED of tying my entertainment standards to making sure I gain Ganker's approval.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then leave.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eat a fat dick, this board has shit opinions and they're always framed as being objective fact supported by what a fat virgin [white male] said in a YouTube video.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't this thread shitting on the notion of listening to YouTube opinions...?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well anon was replying to someone who said they were gonna stop worrying about what Ganker thinks and do what they like. Anon should.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      i've been on this website since the very very beginning. how did you ever get to this point? Ganker isn't one guy. most of us just want to kick back and laugh.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I get that through random, off-topic threads and people trying to start fights over declaring others pedos for partaking in the nudity of a fictional character, not constant contarianism and telling people their tastes are "objectively wrong and cancer".

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah i garee with you man, a lot of stupid statements being thrown around lately

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    And overpriced.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should eat a dick, that is.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminds me of that xbox modchip scam that happened recently

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    SAME QUALITY as those cheap Wii2HDMI dongles.

    XBHD's chip' are sanded/erased, so you can't see the model number, but I guess that they are the same chips used in the Wii2HDMI dongles.

    You can mod/put one of these wii2HDMI on your OG XBOX and I'm pretty sure that the quality is the same, because those tend to darken the image, same thing with the overpriced XBHD

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Invest on one of those Magnavox DVD/VCR combos with HDMI output, connect the composite to your CRT and the HDMI to a HD60 card, and bingo!

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >noooooooo its not bright even though i can turn up brightness on the tv

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      its not bright even though i can turn up brightness on the tv
      no matter how much you turn up brightness it will not restore detail in dark areas, that information was lost by your $200 converter

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why pay for a nearly $200 adapter if you can get the same ho-hum experience with those $30 Hyperkin HDMI cables?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Know any good side by side comparisons?

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The official XBOX HD AV pack with component cables still works great and doesn't look to be overly expensive.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doesn't look to be overly expensive.

      It's like 70-80$ just for the breakout box, you're better off just making your own out of a composite cable.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those things are rare and over 40 bucks, I just made my cables

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shill thread, all fields

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    RGB output of the OG XBOX was too dark, the video was too dark period, dark and fuzzy.

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    A MakeMhz kit costs less and looks better.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also requires talent, though.

      >soldering chip legs isn't hard

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have done 4 installs, 1.6 is pretty easy the older versions are challenging.

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people buy TV's without analogue inputs?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      My 4K Phillips TV has analogue inputs, I just prefer HDMI adapters for my consoles. However don't expect me to pay $200 for one...lol I probably should buy another CRT TV though.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do people buy TV's without analogue inputs?

      Because they started releasing TVs without analogue inputs. Most of them don't have anything except an RF input and a few HDMIs.

      But it's not like you buy a 4k oled to use it with composite input.

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >forced HDMI splitter/Ethernet switch
    I know this is for the Halotards but why in the everloving frick are they forcing it on everyone?

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so confused by this product, does it bypass the dac or does it simply convert back to digital off an analog signal? If it's the latter, why not just get an external scaler that can be used across multiple devices? I can somewhat understand costly internal digital output mods that bypass the internal dac, but shit like this is mind boggling. What a bizarre price point.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's converting analog to digital, doing it cheaply with a low quality converter and making it so you can daisychain xboxes together over ethernet for way too much money instead of just using a cheap $25 router.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >instead of just using a cheap $25 router
        Not even $25. You can grab one for 5-10 bucks from a thrift store.

        What would have been cool is if the box automatically created an ad hoc network over wifi such that you can put multiple Xboxes with these plugged into them in the same room and they all see each other automatically without an additional router. That kind of feature would come much closer to justifying the price. I thought about creating something like that using some Raspberry Pi zeros but never got around to it.

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