Valve hasn't even begun receiving any actual competition. What the frick is Randy talking about? Dumb frick should concentrate on keeping his shitty business alive instead of worrying about others.
I'm financially attached. All my games are already on there. So it's simply convenient to have them all in one place. Sorry tim, you should've been there 15 years ago
>if you use this convenient software that is ubiquitous across the vast majority of PC gaming and is the infrastructure for the vast majority if multiplayer gaming then you are dumb
Okay Tim.
>emotionally
It has a workshop and it's already a software we use to run our games. Why would we want to install a second, third, fourth software to play games when we already had one, with none of them able to store all of our mods?
>The eye thing that only works on Chrome
Frick you for making me curious in this place where asking will get you ten anons chiming in with plausible sounding bullshit
Its a thing where, if an anon names a picture with the same name as a picture in a booru, it will show that booru pic on the side. So like they can post a smug anime girl but the pic it shows on the side is some anime tiddy. That's the thing I'm talking about. I mean you can supposedly do it on any browser but it only works on chrome for me.
>The eye thing that only works on Chrome
Frick you for making me curious in this place where asking will get you ten anons chiming in with plausible sounding bullshit
Yeah actually. I have to use chrome for Ganker because thats the only way the eye thing works
do you use two internet browsers based on the site you want to access?
holy frick learn to express yourself you illiterate Black person spawn
11 months ago
Anonymous
When talking to children you need to use simple words. Not my fault everyone here is underage
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, it's because you're a moron that needs multiple posts and paragraphs to talk about how you can find a *booru image from the filename in chrome. Learn to communicate you obnoxious autist. Everyone hates your guts and wants you dead IRL
11 months ago
Anonymous
What the frick? I was this anon
do you use two internet browsers based on the site you want to access?
Fricking moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
everyone hates your guts, including your mother, your father, and your siblings if you have. You're an obnoxious, self-centered bastard.
That was me and it was one post. Maybe you don't have reading comprehension.
Next time respect MY time before you type out a shitty post, got it b***h?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Learn to read
11 months ago
Anonymous
learn to write, moron. Even that anon had to ask you twice. Why are zoomers so fricking moronic?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>ask me twice
Where?
Its a thing where, if an anon names a picture with the same name as a picture in a booru, it will show that booru pic on the side. So like they can post a smug anime girl but the pic it shows on the side is some anime tiddy. That's the thing I'm talking about. I mean you can supposedly do it on any browser but it only works on chrome for me.
I see ONE reply and its you not being able to read.
Good morning sir
11 months ago
Anonymous
Learn how to write you obnoxious troony. You needed TWO fricking posts to tell us that you have some gay plugin that detects if an image has a *booru filename. IT TOOK ME ONE SENTENCE. How fricking stupid are you, you stupid fricking moronic normalgay? Why don't you go marry the first at b***h that agrees to go out with you and doom yourself to a lifetime of licking stale fat lady pussy?
Why do you feel the need to create an air of mystery surrounding le eye icon on 4chunnk? Chunky cheese fat kid loser, stupid and fricking frick normalgay GO BACK TO FACEBOOK. Literally 99% of this board is FACEBOOK
11 months ago
Anonymous
That was me and it was one post. Maybe you don't have reading comprehension.
yes I use opera for most daily use reasons and firefox for my streaming of movies and tv shows since netflix/hbo etc don't have OBS recognition on firefox
Vastly superior, cloud storage works, installing my games works, fixing my games works
Everytime I reformat my computer, it just installs my games without any issue, installing my games from my Steam Deck just works, a game that bugs out gets fixed in minutes
I had an issue with Epic store getting my card info, I had issues installing free games (still have issues, but haven't tried this year)
Maybe companies should actually pay people to operate a functional system
>why do you like the superior product
cloud saves and the controller drivers are a fricking godsend. steam was shitty when it first launched in the 2000s, but it's legitimately extremely useful nowadays. the idea that people would completely abandon steam if you forced them to download a different client for a few exclusives is moronic, only stores like gog are an actual competitor because they're just a store instead of forcing you to download bloatware that has less features than steam.
People take things for granted when it's given for free and done automatically
It's why steam is as popular as it is, I can't imagine going back to 2008 having to install new drivers for each controller or worry about key bindings or cd keys or reinstallations etc.
I think that's a big part of it. Much as people complain about Steam, they got in early and have put in a lot of low level work into making things that used to take effort effortless. It's painfully simple to add non-steam games, you can manage your library very easily and add your own categories and manage it, controller bindings are dead simple, and it even plays nice with other APIs. I can launch games straight from my Quest 2 with AirLink or a cable on SteamVR, and it just boots it right up. PC gaming used to be a pretty fiddly thing, but it's now so easy to do that anyone can do it without any real work. For better or worse, they've effectively delivered a console grade UX on PC.
>emotionally attached
Name one other online store that has the features that Steam has? I think the ONLY true competitor is GOG, and that's because unlike Steam they steal mods off the internet to make old games work out of the box. Steam just takes shit off the store if it doesn't work.
GOG literally only exists because Steam doesn't care about old shit. If they started working with devs on re-releasing 1990s-2000s PC games fixed, with fixed MP (no gamespy bullshit), achievements and trading cards GOG would be a fricking ghosttown tomorrow.
It's two different systems. Steam was originally just Valve's means of distributing Half Life, and it slowly grew into a digital store as various publishers signed on. GOG was originally Ukrainians selling bootlegs online, and this morphed into becoming a legitimate business by tweaking old games (always a favorite of slav bootleggers) to run on newer machines. The state they are in now is convergent evolution, but ultimately their focuses have always been different.
Like for example Steam's copy of World in Conflict fails to run, but GOG's copy does run.
It's two different systems. Steam was originally just Valve's means of distributing Half Life, and it slowly grew into a digital store as various publishers signed on. GOG was originally Ukrainians selling bootlegs online, and this morphed into becoming a legitimate business by tweaking old games (always a favorite of slav bootleggers) to run on newer machines. The state they are in now is convergent evolution, but ultimately their focuses have always been different.
Like for example Steam's copy of World in Conflict fails to run, but GOG's copy does run.
GOG also offers DRM-free games, Valve doesn't. It's not a huge selling point but it is for some people.
Given the choice of buying a game at GOG vs Steam at the same price, I would love to buy from GOG because it is DRM-free. However, GOG will not be in business in the next 5 or so years. That is why I have no choice but to buy from Steam.
>Steam just takes shit off the store if it doesn't work.
Not even defending EGS but this is a bold faced lie. They take it off if it's causing a significant amount of backlash due to refunds. There are a lot if broken games you can buy on Steam right now. inb4 werks on my machine
Steam has more features and inertia is a big part of it. A lot of the things Epic did favor the publishers and doesn't do much good. Why should I care if publishers get a better deal while the game prices are the same to me and there isn't any mod support or other things steam already has? I'll claim every free game off epic that they offer but if I have a choice of where to buy a game I'll go with steam.
>emotionally
It works and leaves me the frick alone.
Why are dumbfricks on Ganker so deadset on hating a decent service in a sea of garbage like Epic and Ubishit?
If you played on pc with games for windows live you would know. Seriously the fat frick would have to frick it up really hard for me to decide to move to another launcher.
Plus I dont like to have a trillion launchers. And steam came first with a working product. Thats really it. I dont have spotify but imagine if half of the music you listen was in spotify, the other half in youtube music. It would be a mess. I mean, you can already see it happening with video streaming. A lot of people went back to piracy.
Paid exclusivities on a singular platform is shit for the consumer. Now I dont care if there are competing stores with the same games, but epic is always scummy with it. They pay for exclusivities, the games die on their store, and there is a cynic approach to its marketing. They always say how they take a smaller cut than steam, but games on epic cost the same as game on steam. Whats the benefit for me? Plus they already said the smaller cut wasnt sustainable on the long run, so whats really the complain against steam?
Sell me a BETTER store and I might move. If you ransom the games, I will just pirate and be bitter about it.
Were not. Its just the clear best and a rich frick handing rich fricks tons of money for exclusivity rights even though there storefront is years behind to force us to use it annoys me.
I use gog and standalone launchers just fine on top of steam
Why did Intel release the same CPU for a decade with no improvements at all?
Cause they have no competition.
It wasn't until AMD release Ryzen did Intel stop sitting on its ass doing shit all.
Now just look at the CPU market now. It has never been a better time to buy a CPU. It is super cheap with excellent performance.
Steam takes a 30% cut from devs. They can increase that to 50% or whatever. No one can do anything because there is no alternative. Steam has a monopoly market share.
why is it ok for every other store to take 30% but it's only bad when steam does it?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why is it ok to accept that 30% is acceptable? >"every other store "
You mean like EGS that takes 12%?
No because Epic stopped paying journos to parrot it back in 2019 lmao.
Every major publisher crawled back to Steam and indiecucks stopped b***hing about it too soon after.
Ok. Ok. Ok. So you're saying...
We should not discuss that 30% cut is a lot...
Because... Epic apparently paid journalist to... talk about it??
Wow, big brain IQ.
Literally nobody cares how much of a cut steam takes
Devs do. They get less money = they charge more money = we pay more money
Alternatively, they get more money = they can invest in more dev time = better games
11 months ago
Anonymous
why is it that companies like gog, google, apple, nintendo, sony, and microsoft never get called out for taking a 30% cut?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because those stores have alternatives. You want an app? Buy it from Microsoft? Don't like Microsoft? Buy it from somewhere else.
For games, you have no choice but to buy it from Steam, they have too much market share. Before EGS you had literally no option. Even now, really.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Wait, what other stores am I allowed to install on my ps5?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Microsoft store takes 12%
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's the Windows store no one uses. Xbox takes 30%.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The windows store that nobody uses or the xbox store that people buy games from?
11 months ago
Anonymous
why is it that companies like gog, google, apple, nintendo, sony, and microsoft never get called out for taking a 30% cut?
Why is it ok to accept that 30% is acceptable? >"every other store "
You mean like EGS that takes 12%?
[...]
Ok. Ok. Ok. So you're saying...
We should not discuss that 30% cut is a lot...
Because... Epic apparently paid journalist to... talk about it??
Wow, big brain IQ.
[...]
Devs do. They get less money = they charge more money = we pay more money
Alternatively, they get more money = they can invest in more dev time = better games
why is it ok for every other store to take 30% but it's only bad when steam does it?
>operate at a loss >instead of asking for 30% you give an additional 30% to the devs >steam dies >raise it from -30% to 30% or 50% or higher
it's what uber and the other taxi/cab apps are doing
fricking moronic normalgays
The windows store that nobody uses or the xbox store that people buy games from?
That's the Windows store no one uses. Xbox takes 30%.
exactly
they pretend like Steam is some kind of evil company and they think additional israelite fragmentation is gonna help us lmao
oh wait, don't they call this "disruptive"? these are israelite shills that want to release a new "disruptive" unicorn pee pee poo poo company with crypto blockchain artificial intelligence integration
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Devs do. They get less money = they charge more money = we pay more money >Alternatively, they get more money = they can invest in more dev time = better games
EGS exclusive games have neither been cheaper, nor have they been better. In fact they've been almost entirely terrible to mediocre throughout their entire exclusivity campaign.
>Steam has a monopoly market share.
A monopoly is only bad when they actually take advantage of being a monopoly.
I'm sure you'll be right EVENTUALLY. Like when gabe dies and his son takes over or something. But it's important to remember that nothing lasts forever, everything in this world is ephemeral. So we should celebrate anything that looks remotely stable for as long as we can.
on the contrary, I wish there was more legitimate competition to Steam. Epic ain't it, by any stretch. GOG is good because they're DRM-free, that's as close as any other store has gotten, and their selection is pretty limited.
Because steam is the most robust store/library enviroment by a mile and a half and it is completely free, stuff like family sharing was unheard of and it still is in most stores, multiplayer game-streaming was shoddy paid service that wanted you to pay 5.99 a month before valve made its own version completely free same case with phone streaming also native support for every controller you can think of, workshop support, actual reviews, etc.
just look at discord and how it paywall more than half of its features and compare it to steam
It's actually baffling how mismanaged the whole epic store fiasco was.
I'm no IT guy, so there's a lot of shit I might be missing, but how the frick do you program the most used AAA gaming engine in the world that prints money, and at the same time fail to program a basic shopping cart in your steam killer store on day one and for numerous months after?
I wasn't keeping track, did they even add the shopping cart at this point?
>To be fair, windows is 1000 birds nests covered in petroleum with sprinkles on top. It's amazing it can even run.
you're not smart for parroting stupid shit you've heard web"devs" on plebbit say. Fricking normalgay. Frick you, moron. Hurrr software is like sucks bro it's like windoze monolothic kernelz and terminals and uhhh linus tech tips made lanucks
They abuse contractors. Not like physically or emotionally (debatable), but because financially it's arguably cheaper.
Unfortunately this means you'll wind up without any senior staff who know the inner workings and quirks of their project. Hence why basic shit takes forever, because everybody knows nothing, and everything has to be figured out on the fly.
t. my workplace does the same thing on a smaller scale.
It took a few for Steam to add one. It started in 2003(?) and I started using it in 2007. It didn't have a cart then. You had to buy games individually through the same dialog box you install them via. If you bought too many games in a short period of time, they'd start denying your card and you'd have to deal with support to get it unlocked.
Oh well, that means my 56kbps 144p 30fps video sharing website has a hope after all youtube didnt implement 1080 or 4k years after it was launched!
Websites had shopping carts long before Steam did, so there's really no excuse. Amazon launched in 1994. They were also embedding web browsers (specifically IE) in apps back then. They both were moronic at first. That's not to say Epic isn't shit. Try moving a game to another drive (or getting a new OS install to pick up your previously installed games).
[...]
Websites had shopping carts long before Steam did, so there's really no excuse. Amazon launched in 1994. They were also embedding web browsers (specifically IE) in apps back then. They both were moronic at first. That's not to say Epic isn't shit. Try moving a game to another drive (or getting a new OS install to pick up your previously installed games).
Epic is still developing the Cart technology guys.. please be patient!
>I'm no IT guy, so there's a lot of shit I might be missing, but how the frick do you program the most used AAA gaming engine in the world that prints money, and at the same time fail to program a basic shopping cart in your steam killer store on day one and for numerous months after?
You're not missing anything. It indeed makes zero sense whatsoever.
'investment in technology'. what, the stutter-happy ue5? the ue5 that if used, doesn't require you to sell only on the epic store? tim sweeny, the guy whose most valuable store exclusives are alan wake 2 and kingdom hearts pc? who neeeds em.
Does anyone remember a fiasco where Randy PItchford retweeted some video of a cat in pain/being tortured along with some weird cryptic shit about empathy and how the video made him feel a little good? I can't remember if I hallucinated this event or not.
>it's amazing he's where he is in life
Is it? His career path has been pretty transparent: being the lowest bidder on various high-profile ports, getting to produce HL1 supplementary content as a side-effect, churning out WW2 games when the genre was at its peak, and then late-minute reworking their big original IP into something that stands out at an incredibly bland and stagnant point in industry history.
There's some alternate reality where Epic didn't give 88% cut to developers and instead gave customers that extra 18% as money back in store credit and it killed steam within 2 years
I don't give a frick about investment in technology, I don't want your moronic gimmicks. If Gabe can't get PC paypigs to use VR then nobody can. Steam is convenient, cheap and not run by chinks.
>pick up new gun with bigger number >enemy health gets bigger at the same rate >distract you with flashy colors and "+2% damage to enemies with prostate cancer"
RPG elements are objectively pointless in action games, and shooting an enemy 16 times in the head to kill them is not mechanically fun. Whenever RPG elements are actually done well, it's called an immersive sim.
Immersive sims are the most boring games ever made. >grab towel, but you have to use surgeon simulator style mechanics to grab and manipulate it >dip towel in sink, but if you drop it, it takes an hour of fumbling to get it unstuck from the bottom >twist towel up >snap towel at guard's ass >guard is turned on, and viciously rapes you in missionary position while making intense eye contact and giving you a slow handjob
Congrats, you described video games as a whole. Keep seething with more moronation because you need to hate Borderlands to fit in with Ganker and be wrong as usual
Usually the same cope that it's fun with friends. Which is true, but with the right group of friends even watching paint dry can be entertaining so that's not really the point in it's favor people think it is.
It unironically offers a wholly unique experience. Somehow, in this industry where everybody is copying somebody, literally nobody is doing the borderlands formula but gearbox. There is literally no other fps-with-diablo-loot on the market that isn't some shitty Games-as-a-service skinnerbox.
>randy pitchford
remember when he lost a usb drive at one of those renaissance restaurants with sword fights that was full of barely legal teen porn he only had because he was researching the sleight of hand trick the girl used to squirt?
I never saw the dilemma, here. They're...just apps. You don't leave one to go to another. You buy something off one storefront, or you buy it off another. You may even run them both at the same time. It isn't like the storefronts themselves cost anything. You'd think PC would be free of consolewarz but here you have people who manage to make it a thing with desktop icons.
>modern companies rape my privacy
shocking
your privacy is raped by goverments, companies, agencies, and nobody gives a frick lmao
but the fewer apps/companies that do this the better
I don't want gay ass launchers that make me login and give away my data
i don't want to login into multiple different services to do one thing
also, most importantly: these moronic gay apps (I like how they use that homosexual steve blowjobs term "app" instead of software or program hahaha) these moronic gay apps SOMETIMES DONT LET ME USE A PASSWORD MANAGER
and frick 2fa
MY PASSWORDS HAVE 256 BITS OF ENTROPY
I DONT NEED 2FA AKA A STUPID BACKUP CODE IN A QR IMAGE
it was made to protect the companies from normalgay stupidity. They don't give a frick about security (both the companies and the normaloids). Normaloids use the same 5 character password everywhere and companies hire zoomer trannies, women and Black folk to "move fast and break things" which Black folk are known to be good at. So then I have to save a 2nd password when I could've just saved ONE. I mean I just put them all in the password manager and use a script to generate the verification PINs but it's still annoying. Normaloids ruin everything every time
how are you like this? most people using password managers with strong passwords would be saying 2fa is shit because it's always a mobile code instead of allowing for hardware based options like totp or fido2
what do you think "2fa" means you putrid crotch plebbitor? It's a more general term than totp and fido2. I obviously meant the QR code version which you can use to generate PINs, e.g. through totp.
Black person my point was you're full on 2fa bad when most gays like you are 2fa good except sms which can be spoofed
What, you're shocked that I guessed you've integrated your Apple iCuck iCage with yubikey? Dunning-Kruger in full force aka plebbitor-mode, raised by single mother, small penis, short, probably mutt-quality genetics, midwit, either illiterate or read a bunch of meme authors he saw on /misc/ or Ganker like Knee-cheese or that homosexual that Knee-cheese took his angsty emo edgelord rants from.
you sound really angry, was your lastpass breached?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't have lastpass moron I only use pass on Linux. Are you the moron from yesterday that didn't know what a terminal was in Linux and had to be schooled with a link to the very basics of the easiest distro?
https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/command-line-for-beginners#3-opening-a-terminal
Why would I need to use a gay app made by zoomer quota trannies, Black folk, spics, chinkaloids and women?
11 months ago
Anonymous
you're the one b***hing that you can't use a password manager while being required to use 2fa like the most eggs in one basket moron alive
11 months ago
Anonymous
I literally told you I save the QR code on my computer and extract the code from it and save it to my password manager. I don't use lastpass because it's gay and made for crazy little submissive bottom fruitcakes like you whose anuses whistle when they walk on the street with their homosexual drag queen swagger, I use "pass". I shouldn't have to use two different codes when one is just as effective. I'm never going to lose or have my laptop stolen because I don't live in a Black person neighorhood and I'm not married, which means my chances of getting my shit stolen are reduced hundredfold
11 months ago
Anonymous
also you were raised by a single mother, your father hates you, you have a small penis, you are fat, you are ugly, you have issues dating women, other men intimidate you, you are stupid, you have shit posture and issues with your balance, you are an American who has to take pills to cope with the amount of homier "gentlemen" polluting da streetz, and you are a mutt. Your genes are diarrhea basically. And you don't even know what 2fa stands for s m h
i'm probably just gonna end up buying a steam deck
a 500gb mostly or depending on how things go, i don't really know if it has any external or insertable storage media options because i didn't research that yet
i don't care for most new games but i do have a bunch of jrpgs like atelier games and trials of mana and some fighting games and a couple of sport based games and that's it
Has this stupid butthole ever been right about anything? He's one of the most reviled pricks in the entire industry, awash in a quagmire of scandals and felonies that he magically escapes from as he continues to oversaturate the market with his nonsensical, Joss Wheadon tier meme games that borrow everything from much better series. I don't even have to read down to know the bathroom and movie theater pics have already been posted, along with a flurry of bad ass posts.
Stop making threads about this jackass and keeping him relevant. His entire company should have been liquidated for their behavior on Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Of all the game studios I had to live 15 minutes away from, it had to be this shithead's. At least they have a nifty if overpriced gaming themed bar under their office.
frick DRM and frick DRM fanboys
How did Randy know?
Valve hasn't even begun receiving any actual competition. What the frick is Randy talking about? Dumb frick should concentrate on keeping his shitty business alive instead of worrying about others.
Hes pitching his company to Tim now that Enbracer is about to die
To be fair he didn't expect epic to take half a decade to discover cart technology.
Look at the date.
>Epic tech outpacing Steam
Apologize
>not the piss edit
shiggy diggy
Why is he kneeling in a filthy bathroom?
One could say he's taking the piss
>moronic tweets that, surprise surprise, didn't age well
Why are people so emotionally attached to steam
I'm financially attached. All my games are already on there. So it's simply convenient to have them all in one place. Sorry tim, you should've been there 15 years ago
you realize it makes YOU look dumb
>all my games are there
>if you use this convenient software that is ubiquitous across the vast majority of PC gaming and is the infrastructure for the vast majority if multiplayer gaming then you are dumb
Okay Tim.
>emotionally
It has a workshop and it's already a software we use to run our games. Why would we want to install a second, third, fourth software to play games when we already had one, with none of them able to store all of our mods?
do you use two internet browsers based on the site you want to access?
I use Microsoft edge, Google Chrome, Opera and Firefox depending on my mood
Sometimes, depending on the features. Firefox doesn't support HDR on youtube.
I have Unlimited Shitposting Works set up specifically on Firefox which I use whenever I get banned by some Black person mod, yeah
>Unlimited Shitposting Works
Google is giving me nothing.
I wouldn't if a bunch of butthurt trannies weren't intent on keeping Kiwi Farms off the clearweb.
Yeah actually. I have to use chrome for Ganker because thats the only way the eye thing works
>The eye thing that only works on Chrome
Frick you for making me curious in this place where asking will get you ten anons chiming in with plausible sounding bullshit
Its a thing where, if an anon names a picture with the same name as a picture in a booru, it will show that booru pic on the side. So like they can post a smug anime girl but the pic it shows on the side is some anime tiddy. That's the thing I'm talking about. I mean you can supposedly do it on any browser but it only works on chrome for me.
holy frick learn to express yourself you illiterate Black person spawn
When talking to children you need to use simple words. Not my fault everyone here is underage
No, it's because you're a moron that needs multiple posts and paragraphs to talk about how you can find a *booru image from the filename in chrome. Learn to communicate you obnoxious autist. Everyone hates your guts and wants you dead IRL
What the frick? I was this anon
Fricking moron
everyone hates your guts, including your mother, your father, and your siblings if you have. You're an obnoxious, self-centered bastard.
Next time respect MY time before you type out a shitty post, got it b***h?
Learn to read
learn to write, moron. Even that anon had to ask you twice. Why are zoomers so fricking moronic?
>ask me twice
Where?
I see ONE reply and its you not being able to read.
Good morning sir
Learn how to write you obnoxious troony. You needed TWO fricking posts to tell us that you have some gay plugin that detects if an image has a *booru filename. IT TOOK ME ONE SENTENCE. How fricking stupid are you, you stupid fricking moronic normalgay? Why don't you go marry the first at b***h that agrees to go out with you and doom yourself to a lifetime of licking stale fat lady pussy?
Why do you feel the need to create an air of mystery surrounding le eye icon on 4chunnk? Chunky cheese fat kid loser, stupid and fricking frick normalgay GO BACK TO FACEBOOK. Literally 99% of this board is FACEBOOK
That was me and it was one post. Maybe you don't have reading comprehension.
yes I use opera for most daily use reasons and firefox for my streaming of movies and tv shows since netflix/hbo etc don't have OBS recognition on firefox
I use like 3
One of them still has flash enabled
Valve PR made Gabe into a father figure
Vastly superior, cloud storage works, installing my games works, fixing my games works
Everytime I reformat my computer, it just installs my games without any issue, installing my games from my Steam Deck just works, a game that bugs out gets fixed in minutes
I had an issue with Epic store getting my card info, I had issues installing free games (still have issues, but haven't tried this year)
Maybe companies should actually pay people to operate a functional system
>why do you like the superior product
cloud saves and the controller drivers are a fricking godsend. steam was shitty when it first launched in the 2000s, but it's legitimately extremely useful nowadays. the idea that people would completely abandon steam if you forced them to download a different client for a few exclusives is moronic, only stores like gog are an actual competitor because they're just a store instead of forcing you to download bloatware that has less features than steam.
People take things for granted when it's given for free and done automatically
It's why steam is as popular as it is, I can't imagine going back to 2008 having to install new drivers for each controller or worry about key bindings or cd keys or reinstallations etc.
I think that's a big part of it. Much as people complain about Steam, they got in early and have put in a lot of low level work into making things that used to take effort effortless. It's painfully simple to add non-steam games, you can manage your library very easily and add your own categories and manage it, controller bindings are dead simple, and it even plays nice with other APIs. I can launch games straight from my Quest 2 with AirLink or a cable on SteamVR, and it just boots it right up. PC gaming used to be a pretty fiddly thing, but it's now so easy to do that anyone can do it without any real work. For better or worse, they've effectively delivered a console grade UX on PC.
what apis
and no pc gaming was never a fiddly thing unless you're dumb
>emotionally attached
Name one other online store that has the features that Steam has? I think the ONLY true competitor is GOG, and that's because unlike Steam they steal mods off the internet to make old games work out of the box. Steam just takes shit off the store if it doesn't work.
GOG literally only exists because Steam doesn't care about old shit. If they started working with devs on re-releasing 1990s-2000s PC games fixed, with fixed MP (no gamespy bullshit), achievements and trading cards GOG would be a fricking ghosttown tomorrow.
It's two different systems. Steam was originally just Valve's means of distributing Half Life, and it slowly grew into a digital store as various publishers signed on. GOG was originally Ukrainians selling bootlegs online, and this morphed into becoming a legitimate business by tweaking old games (always a favorite of slav bootleggers) to run on newer machines. The state they are in now is convergent evolution, but ultimately their focuses have always been different.
Like for example Steam's copy of World in Conflict fails to run, but GOG's copy does run.
GOG also offers DRM-free games, Valve doesn't. It's not a huge selling point but it is for some people.
Given the choice of buying a game at GOG vs Steam at the same price, I would love to buy from GOG because it is DRM-free. However, GOG will not be in business in the next 5 or so years. That is why I have no choice but to buy from Steam.
>Steam just takes shit off the store if it doesn't work.
Not even defending EGS but this is a bold faced lie. They take it off if it's causing a significant amount of backlash due to refunds. There are a lot if broken games you can buy on Steam right now. inb4 werks on my machine
Steam has more features and inertia is a big part of it. A lot of the things Epic did favor the publishers and doesn't do much good. Why should I care if publishers get a better deal while the game prices are the same to me and there isn't any mod support or other things steam already has? I'll claim every free game off epic that they offer but if I have a choice of where to buy a game I'll go with steam.
>emotionally
It works and leaves me the frick alone.
Why are dumbfricks on Ganker so deadset on hating a decent service in a sea of garbage like Epic and Ubishit?
If you have ever used anything else, you would know.
If you played on pc with games for windows live you would know. Seriously the fat frick would have to frick it up really hard for me to decide to move to another launcher.
Plus I dont like to have a trillion launchers. And steam came first with a working product. Thats really it. I dont have spotify but imagine if half of the music you listen was in spotify, the other half in youtube music. It would be a mess. I mean, you can already see it happening with video streaming. A lot of people went back to piracy.
Paid exclusivities on a singular platform is shit for the consumer. Now I dont care if there are competing stores with the same games, but epic is always scummy with it. They pay for exclusivities, the games die on their store, and there is a cynic approach to its marketing. They always say how they take a smaller cut than steam, but games on epic cost the same as game on steam. Whats the benefit for me? Plus they already said the smaller cut wasnt sustainable on the long run, so whats really the complain against steam?
Sell me a BETTER store and I might move. If you ransom the games, I will just pirate and be bitter about it.
Were not. Its just the clear best and a rich frick handing rich fricks tons of money for exclusivity rights even though there storefront is years behind to force us to use it annoys me.
I use gog and standalone launchers just fine on top of steam
It's literally the best platform in terms of library selection and cool features
Literally better than pirating for a lot of use cases. Cheap too, if you're savvy.
Regularly gets new features like LAN download, yearly stats, etc.
it's just some minor convenience added in exchange for money
easy, it was first, it doesnt frick me with moronic things outside ui, it has multiple ways to buy even after they ban russian gifts and others gifts.
i dont love steam
i just hate epic
there is a diference
On the flip side, why are people so desperate for Steam to fail and/or die?
you know ~~*why*~~
Why did Intel release the same CPU for a decade with no improvements at all?
Cause they have no competition.
It wasn't until AMD release Ryzen did Intel stop sitting on its ass doing shit all.
Now just look at the CPU market now. It has never been a better time to buy a CPU. It is super cheap with excellent performance.
Steam takes a 30% cut from devs. They can increase that to 50% or whatever. No one can do anything because there is no alternative. Steam has a monopoly market share.
Any time someone mention the 30% cut you know you're talking with an EGS marketer or a troll
>They can increase that to 50% or whatever. No one can do anything because there is no alternative.
Then why haven't they done that yet?
30% talking point died years ago bro
Get a better script
Why? Did they suddenly drop it down to 10%? Is that why that "talking point died"?
why is it ok for every other store to take 30% but it's only bad when steam does it?
Why is it ok to accept that 30% is acceptable?
>"every other store "
You mean like EGS that takes 12%?
Ok. Ok. Ok. So you're saying...
We should not discuss that 30% cut is a lot...
Because... Epic apparently paid journalist to... talk about it??
Wow, big brain IQ.
Devs do. They get less money = they charge more money = we pay more money
Alternatively, they get more money = they can invest in more dev time = better games
why is it that companies like gog, google, apple, nintendo, sony, and microsoft never get called out for taking a 30% cut?
Because those stores have alternatives. You want an app? Buy it from Microsoft? Don't like Microsoft? Buy it from somewhere else.
For games, you have no choice but to buy it from Steam, they have too much market share. Before EGS you had literally no option. Even now, really.
Wait, what other stores am I allowed to install on my ps5?
Microsoft store takes 12%
That's the Windows store no one uses. Xbox takes 30%.
The windows store that nobody uses or the xbox store that people buy games from?
>operate at a loss
>instead of asking for 30% you give an additional 30% to the devs
>steam dies
>raise it from -30% to 30% or 50% or higher
it's what uber and the other taxi/cab apps are doing
fricking moronic normalgays
exactly
they pretend like Steam is some kind of evil company and they think additional israelite fragmentation is gonna help us lmao
oh wait, don't they call this "disruptive"? these are israelite shills that want to release a new "disruptive" unicorn pee pee poo poo company with crypto blockchain artificial intelligence integration
>Devs do. They get less money = they charge more money = we pay more money
>Alternatively, they get more money = they can invest in more dev time = better games
EGS exclusive games have neither been cheaper, nor have they been better. In fact they've been almost entirely terrible to mediocre throughout their entire exclusivity campaign.
No because Epic stopped paying journos to parrot it back in 2019 lmao.
Every major publisher crawled back to Steam and indiecucks stopped b***hing about it too soon after.
Literally nobody cares how much of a cut steam takes
Meanwhile Steam actually has been improving and adding features to the storefront for the greater part of it's existence.
Shut the frick up Black person.
The entire steam key ecosystem and gift card market only exists becUse of the 30% cut.
>Steam has a monopoly market share.
A monopoly is only bad when they actually take advantage of being a monopoly.
I'm sure you'll be right EVENTUALLY. Like when gabe dies and his son takes over or something. But it's important to remember that nothing lasts forever, everything in this world is ephemeral. So we should celebrate anything that looks remotely stable for as long as we can.
Maybe their competition should actually compete then instead of buying exclusivity while leaning their storefront utterly stagnant and terrible.
It's nothing emotional. They own all my shit. I have something like 400 games in my Steam library.
on the contrary, I wish there was more legitimate competition to Steam. Epic ain't it, by any stretch. GOG is good because they're DRM-free, that's as close as any other store has gotten, and their selection is pretty limited.
Autism and console warring pcgays
Majority of EGS shills are just console warriors posting weak bait.
Because steam is the most robust store/library enviroment by a mile and a half and it is completely free, stuff like family sharing was unheard of and it still is in most stores, multiplayer game-streaming was shoddy paid service that wanted you to pay 5.99 a month before valve made its own version completely free same case with phone streaming also native support for every controller you can think of, workshop support, actual reviews, etc.
just look at discord and how it paywall more than half of its features and compare it to steam
>emotionally
Wasn't this homosexual paid by valve in 1999 to make a half life DLC?
I thought he would be the first to suck Gabe's dick
He's still mad about Gabe calling him out for lying.
https://www.engadget.com/2009-08-17-whats-in-a-name-gearbox-software.html
It's actually baffling how mismanaged the whole epic store fiasco was.
I'm no IT guy, so there's a lot of shit I might be missing, but how the frick do you program the most used AAA gaming engine in the world that prints money, and at the same time fail to program a basic shopping cart in your steam killer store on day one and for numerous months after?
I wasn't keeping track, did they even add the shopping cart at this point?
Three years later and they even made some posts on Twitter as the most important update ever
Plus they alienated anyone who didn't have a personality of a dirty rat with their exclusivity bullshit, which was usually reserved for consoleplebs.
Creepy Tim is a fricking brainlet with no sense of business whatsoever.
It's actually incredibly hilarious and sad how much money Tim is burning due to his envy of Gabe.
Well, how does Microsoft create Windows and the Xbox UI, yet end up with a PC launcher as bad as the one out now?
Somehow, a big picture mode equivalent on PC is too hard for Microsoft
MS doesnt actually care.
They have never cared
Even when they say they care now they dont since they only care about the OS
To be fair, windows is 1000 birds nests covered in petroleum with sprinkles on top. It's amazing it can even run.
Epic Games Store? Now that is embarrassing.
>To be fair, windows is 1000 birds nests covered in petroleum with sprinkles on top. It's amazing it can even run.
you're not smart for parroting stupid shit you've heard web"devs" on plebbit say. Fricking normalgay. Frick you, moron. Hurrr software is like sucks bro it's like windoze monolothic kernelz and terminals and uhhh linus tech tips made lanucks
They don't care. Epic at least should care but they don't. Microsoft has not reason to bother.
They abuse contractors. Not like physically or emotionally (debatable), but because financially it's arguably cheaper.
Unfortunately this means you'll wind up without any senior staff who know the inner workings and quirks of their project. Hence why basic shit takes forever, because everybody knows nothing, and everything has to be figured out on the fly.
t. my workplace does the same thing on a smaller scale.
>did they even add the shopping cart at this point?
Yes, but it took a few years, lol.
It took a few for Steam to add one. It started in 2003(?) and I started using it in 2007. It didn't have a cart then. You had to buy games individually through the same dialog box you install them via. If you bought too many games in a short period of time, they'd start denying your card and you'd have to deal with support to get it unlocked.
When did EGS launch? Why do other modern stores and websites start with a shopping cart at launch?
Websites had shopping carts long before Steam did, so there's really no excuse. Amazon launched in 1994. They were also embedding web browsers (specifically IE) in apps back then. They both were moronic at first. That's not to say Epic isn't shit. Try moving a game to another drive (or getting a new OS install to pick up your previously installed games).
Epic is still developing the Cart technology guys.. please be patient!
Oh well, that means my 56kbps 144p 30fps video sharing website has a hope after all youtube didnt implement 1080 or 4k years after it was launched!
>I'm no IT guy, so there's a lot of shit I might be missing, but how the frick do you program the most used AAA gaming engine in the world that prints money, and at the same time fail to program a basic shopping cart in your steam killer store on day one and for numerous months after?
You're not missing anything. It indeed makes zero sense whatsoever.
'investment in technology'. what, the stutter-happy ue5? the ue5 that if used, doesn't require you to sell only on the epic store? tim sweeny, the guy whose most valuable store exclusives are alan wake 2 and kingdom hearts pc? who neeeds em.
Going after Randy now, huh? Carry on.
Did tim get his hands on Randys twitter?
>out of touch take from an old man twitter screencap
Bravo OP
Randy isn’t just ”old man”, he’s one of the grand old men of vidya
His games haven't been relevant for 10 years
Randy is an annoying has-been with awful takes on everything. The Borderlands games were all garbage, sorry.
Does anyone remember a fiasco where Randy PItchford retweeted some video of a cat in pain/being tortured along with some weird cryptic shit about empathy and how the video made him feel a little good? I can't remember if I hallucinated this event or not.
The guy is so fricking weird it's amazing he's where he is in life.
Didn't he lose a USB drive that had something sketchy on it or something?
He’s literally a magician
>something sketchy
Barely legal porn, by his own words
That he was interested in because ”magic tricks”, mind you.
>it's amazing he's where he is in life
Is it? His career path has been pretty transparent: being the lowest bidder on various high-profile ports, getting to produce HL1 supplementary content as a side-effect, churning out WW2 games when the genre was at its peak, and then late-minute reworking their big original IP into something that stands out at an incredibly bland and stagnant point in industry history.
I did not hallucinate this.
Randy's behavior makes a lot more sense once you realize he's just a fricking sociopath.
He literally is one, he’s had so many bizarre fricking weird things happen around him and he’s just a fricking weird person in the absolute worst way.
As much of a moron Randy is I would never expect that.
What the frick
There's some alternate reality where Epic didn't give 88% cut to developers and instead gave customers that extra 18% as money back in store credit and it killed steam within 2 years
200 days. All the Windows 7 users will upgrade to carving on stone tablets, and their massive userbase will bankrupt Valve.
I don't give a frick about investment in technology, I don't want your moronic gimmicks. If Gabe can't get PC paypigs to use VR then nobody can. Steam is convenient, cheap and not run by chinks.
>Randy Pitchford
I’m surprised he can even hold a mouse with how greasy his hands are.
Steam will die the moment Gaben dies.
He has son that's into vidya, valve will be fine.
Randy is one dumb motherfricker
>Steam is LE BAD
>pwease buy ouw game, we've added it back on steam!
>over 92k revies
HOW is this garbage so popular?
Mechanically, all of them are fun. The dialogue is just so awful, though.
yea basic shooter with bullet sponge enemies is very fun
The first one is the best successor to Diablo 2 there ever was. The others built on the loot and encounter system.
>pick up new gun with bigger number
>enemy health gets bigger at the same rate
>distract you with flashy colors and "+2% damage to enemies with prostate cancer"
RPG elements are objectively pointless in action games, and shooting an enemy 16 times in the head to kill them is not mechanically fun.
Whenever RPG elements are actually done well, it's called an immersive sim.
Immersive sims are the most boring games ever made.
>grab towel, but you have to use surgeon simulator style mechanics to grab and manipulate it
>dip towel in sink, but if you drop it, it takes an hour of fumbling to get it unstuck from the bottom
>twist towel up
>snap towel at guard's ass
>guard is turned on, and viciously rapes you in missionary position while making intense eye contact and giving you a slow handjob
you're a gay loser from preddit
Congrats, you described video games as a whole. Keep seething with more moronation because you need to hate Borderlands to fit in with Ganker and be wrong as usual
>The dialogue is just so awful, though
Good thing there are mods that remove all that, huh?
Usually the same cope that it's fun with friends. Which is true, but with the right group of friends even watching paint dry can be entertaining so that's not really the point in it's favor people think it is.
It unironically offers a wholly unique experience. Somehow, in this industry where everybody is copying somebody, literally nobody is doing the borderlands formula but gearbox. There is literally no other fps-with-diablo-loot on the market that isn't some shitty Games-as-a-service skinnerbox.
It discounts all the way down to -90% during sales.
none of it was really yours
you got all heated up about for a while
Epic has fallen behind on their own estimates for profitability. Barely anyone buys games on that shit with a few notable exceptions.
well valve actually has an income
What's that homosexual Randy been up to recently?
the greasy fricker's got the rights to publish Remnant 2, somehow
His wife is the daugther of some oil money guy, which is how Randy manages to still be afloat despite being a catastrophe for his company
Greasy? If he was greasy, would people buy his used shirts from an auction?
>randy pitchford
opinion discarded
i can't reliably log in to epic so gnewell takes this one
sooner buy israeliterosoft game pass than anything on epin
end of the day, valve is for PC. ebig games has sold out to console
lol
lmao
Epic is on its death bed and Steam is dominating the industry still.
Epic is unironically going to get banned if the restrict act goes through
>randy pitchford
remember when he lost a usb drive at one of those renaissance restaurants with sword fights that was full of barely legal teen porn he only had because he was researching the sleight of hand trick the girl used to squirt?
Pajeet EGShill is ITT
I never saw the dilemma, here. They're...just apps. You don't leave one to go to another. You buy something off one storefront, or you buy it off another. You may even run them both at the same time. It isn't like the storefronts themselves cost anything. You'd think PC would be free of consolewarz but here you have people who manage to make it a thing with desktop icons.
people conflated egs scans a specific steam directory to egs is spyware when uplay does the exact same shit.
>modern companies rape my privacy
shocking
your privacy is raped by goverments, companies, agencies, and nobody gives a frick lmao
but the fewer apps/companies that do this the better
I don't want gay ass launchers that make me login and give away my data
i don't want to login into multiple different services to do one thing
also, most importantly: these moronic gay apps (I like how they use that homosexual steve blowjobs term "app" instead of software or program hahaha) these moronic gay apps SOMETIMES DONT LET ME USE A PASSWORD MANAGER
and frick 2fa
MY PASSWORDS HAVE 256 BITS OF ENTROPY
I DONT NEED 2FA AKA A STUPID BACKUP CODE IN A QR IMAGE
fricking normalgays ruining everything REE
2FA is not made to protect you, its made to protect the companies when the inevitable data leak happens
it was made to protect the companies from normalgay stupidity. They don't give a frick about security (both the companies and the normaloids). Normaloids use the same 5 character password everywhere and companies hire zoomer trannies, women and Black folk to "move fast and break things" which Black folk are known to be good at. So then I have to save a 2nd password when I could've just saved ONE. I mean I just put them all in the password manager and use a script to generate the verification PINs but it's still annoying. Normaloids ruin everything every time
how are you like this? most people using password managers with strong passwords would be saying 2fa is shit because it's always a mobile code instead of allowing for hardware based options like totp or fido2
what do you think "2fa" means you putrid crotch plebbitor? It's a more general term than totp and fido2. I obviously meant the QR code version which you can use to generate PINs, e.g. through totp.
Black person my point was you're full on 2fa bad when most gays like you are 2fa good except sms which can be spoofed
What, you're shocked that I guessed you've integrated your Apple iCuck iCage with yubikey? Dunning-Kruger in full force aka plebbitor-mode, raised by single mother, small penis, short, probably mutt-quality genetics, midwit, either illiterate or read a bunch of meme authors he saw on /misc/ or Ganker like Knee-cheese or that homosexual that Knee-cheese took his angsty emo edgelord rants from.
you sound really angry, was your lastpass breached?
I don't have lastpass moron I only use pass on Linux. Are you the moron from yesterday that didn't know what a terminal was in Linux and had to be schooled with a link to the very basics of the easiest distro?
https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/command-line-for-beginners#3-opening-a-terminal
Why would I need to use a gay app made by zoomer quota trannies, Black folk, spics, chinkaloids and women?
you're the one b***hing that you can't use a password manager while being required to use 2fa like the most eggs in one basket moron alive
I literally told you I save the QR code on my computer and extract the code from it and save it to my password manager. I don't use lastpass because it's gay and made for crazy little submissive bottom fruitcakes like you whose anuses whistle when they walk on the street with their homosexual drag queen swagger, I use "pass". I shouldn't have to use two different codes when one is just as effective. I'm never going to lose or have my laptop stolen because I don't live in a Black person neighorhood and I'm not married, which means my chances of getting my shit stolen are reduced hundredfold
also you were raised by a single mother, your father hates you, you have a small penis, you are fat, you are ugly, you have issues dating women, other men intimidate you, you are stupid, you have shit posture and issues with your balance, you are an American who has to take pills to cope with the amount of homier "gentlemen" polluting da streetz, and you are a mutt. Your genes are diarrhea basically. And you don't even know what 2fa stands for s m h
i'm probably just gonna end up buying a steam deck
a 500gb mostly or depending on how things go, i don't really know if it has any external or insertable storage media options because i didn't research that yet
i don't care for most new games but i do have a bunch of jrpgs like atelier games and trials of mana and some fighting games and a couple of sport based games and that's it
>muh 30% vs 12%
What a fricking moronic argument, end yourself if you still take this garbage shit seriously.
>we're ready to launch not-steam
>come buy your games here
t. gamestop managers
Has this stupid butthole ever been right about anything? He's one of the most reviled pricks in the entire industry, awash in a quagmire of scandals and felonies that he magically escapes from as he continues to oversaturate the market with his nonsensical, Joss Wheadon tier meme games that borrow everything from much better series. I don't even have to read down to know the bathroom and movie theater pics have already been posted, along with a flurry of bad ass posts.
Stop making threads about this jackass and keeping him relevant. His entire company should have been liquidated for their behavior on Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Of all the game studios I had to live 15 minutes away from, it had to be this shithead's. At least they have a nifty if overpriced gaming themed bar under their office.