Western game devs all boil down to some shade of George R.R. Martin or Phill Fish, are there any western devs that actually have a sophisticated knowledge of art and literature like a lot of Jap devs do? Any western game devs who have spiritual themes in their games that aren’t just ultra fedora flashing?
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Probably at least a few out there but I wouldn’t now; I only play Japanese games
>I wouldn’t now; I only play Japanese games
CHAD
Max Payne and Deus Ex are better than any Japanese game, past or present.
Max Payne is not better than silent hill 2 frick off
It is. But now that I think about it, Max Payne is inferior to MGS2.
>have a sophisticated knowledge of art and literature like a lot of Jap devs do?
lmfao
Never seen a western dev talk about Proust, Carl Theodore Dryer or Roger Bacon but I see Japanese devs take inspiration from film, literature and high art all the time
> Roger Bacon
Francis Bacon, reason why I confused him is that there was a medieval monk also called Francis Bacon and I always mix up with whom he shares with
Frick no, Francis is the medieval monk
japanese "inspiration" in games is as shallow as could possibly be, it amounts to little more than name dropping at best.
And western devs don’t know anything outside of stargate or some random fantasy books
if you say so.
Embarrassing
Both Francis and Roger Bacon were scientists/philosophers, it would be easier if Francis Bacon had a different name to either of them
Roger is the monk, Francis the Renaissance philosopher and the modern gay artist
Planescape torment
Fallout 1
Deus ex
System Shock
Thief
STALKER
and from indies
Pathologic
Darkwood
> Planescape torment
Inspired by fantasy pulp
>Fallout
Inspired by scifi pulp
>Deus Ex
Inspired by Cyberpunk pulp
>System shock
Scifi pulp
>thief
Fantasy and steampunk pulp
>Stalker
The book isn’t bad, and it’s kind of inspired by the movie, first in your list to not be just influenced by pulp
> Pathologic
Seems like the only genuinely artistically interesting one here
>darkwood
Don’t know much about it
tell me then, which games from east or west fall for this category.
and steampunk pulp
do you consider the new testament to be fantasy pulp?
>the only unique and interesting games are all eastern european
west bros, my dick shrank back a little after seeing this list, any countermeasures?
They live in a perpetual hellhole so naturally throughout history they have been great with poignant themes/writing and other art like music.
90% of japanese culture and media is just copied from the western world
Another World was the prime inspiration for Ico and is Ueda's favorite game, from the West
other than that I can't really be bothered putting too much effort into this post since I feel like you'll just mock whatever Western developers or games I mention
Split Ganker into /veast/ and /vwest/ already.
troony and BBC garbage doesn't have anything to do with video games and can stay in its containment board
all games at this point just boil down into Ico when you think about it.
Such a charming game.
Yes.
Bro... the teenagers killed God again... thats so deep... the eastern mind is truly an enigma...
Dude, Hrothgar killed Smogrôn son of Holthlon and then had intimate sex with his brother after romancing him and picking the right dialogue choices without the story ever going into the implications of this at all - so deep
unironically kino, i applauded when that happened
The influence from Dreyer couldn't be more obvious. My dick is so hard right now... western pulp could never compare
Kino
>that pan into the sun
>black screen
brought me a tear of joy
The sophisticated philosophical themes in this part of the story really spoke to me.
Very Lynchian kafkaesque
>art and literature like a lot of Jap devs do
lmao
I would expect you idiot foreigners to understand. You need a high IQ to appreciate the masterpieces of Miyazaki and Taro-san.
>are there any western devs that actually have a sophisticated knowledge of art and literature like a lot of Jap devs do? Any western game devs who have spiritual themes in their games that aren’t just ultra fedora flashing?
Please be a troll anon, this is just sad. You are like the 500lbs fedora otakus who think FinalFantasy is the epitome of writing in video games.
final fantasy is the epitome of writing though
Damn Disney really did destroy StarWars
Its funny because Final Fantasy is the anti-Star Wars, attachment is the dark side in Star Wars and attachment is the "light" in FF. Locke even says "I won't let go" at the end of FF6.
>attachment is the dark side in Star Wars
So that is why the Jedi forbid attachment? Thanks for the laugh m8
Attachment in Star Wars is what leads to the dark side.
If you want to actually know Star Wars philosphically wath this:
Disco Elysium
Outer Wilds
Also Ueda games don't represent Japan. They are an outlier