We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings, so in the next few years are we gonna w...

We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings, so in the next few years are we gonna we see something like:

>8GB: poorgay tier
>16GB: everyday tasks
>32GB: recommended for vidya
>64GB: recommended for workstations
>128GB or above: overkill

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >He doesn't have 2TB ECC

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How well do games run on a 32 core CPU with a 2 Ghz max clock?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >ECC ram for gaming
      Full moron

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No game needs more than 16 GB to play smoothly.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      t. Consolegay

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        what games do you even play that require 32 GB?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      COD Warzone takes more that that. Granted, it was only 16,4GB on my settings but still.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        check warzone comparissons with 16 and 32, almost every time theres a 5% fps improvement and less stutters

        >5% improvement on cod warzone max settings
        ok

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        check warzone comparissons with 16 and 32, almost every time theres a 5% fps improvement and less stutters

        Warzone is a moronic 230GB game due to developer incompetence. It's by no metric the standard or an example to follow.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          will be the new norm sadly

          [...]
          >5% improvement on cod warzone max settings
          ok

          yes, expect it to get worse over the years

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            what does 5% improvement even mean, it's only for 240hz+ right

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I haven't played a game that requires anything beyond half my ram
      I use 8 gb
      I dont need more

      I guess people that play the most recent AAA games
      I mean most are unoptimized +100gb garbage, i wouldn't be surprised if they also need tons of ram

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        RAM allocation /= RAM usage

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      my modded cities skylines would like to have a word with you

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you don't even need to mod cities skylines, just buy the dlc and be surprised when the game won't load into a level.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          sounds like you need more RAM, also TPM literally changed how I play the game entirely so

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      check warzone comparissons with 16 and 32, almost every time theres a 5% fps improvement and less stutters

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Remember when people said this for 4? And then 8?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's obviously he meant right now, not forever.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >128gb or above for workstations
      Im currently at 128gb and After Effects eats to whole shit like nothing. Also shitloads or ram and vram are good for simulations like fluid, cloth etc...

      >Play vidya
      >Food is ready
      >AltTab to watch my current eating series or browse
      >AltTab back to vidya without any hickup

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Anno 1800 needs more than 16 gigs when you are over 100 hours in a save

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hardware demands often seem very bloated to me, many games seem to have requirements they have no business having.
    I do believe some COD game asked for 16 or 32 and it was clear hogwash that it needed it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Publishers and developers state higher requirements to shield themselves and because they know average moron has 100 chrome tabs and disc*rd and other shit running with the game.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm emulating PS2 and Wii games I could probably get away with 4gb.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >32gb
    list 20 games that need it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He can't, the majority of games don't.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Don't games use mostly VRAM though?
    i have never seen one that required that much DDRRAM

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      large maps, like an 8 player civilization game.

      civ7 will most likely require 32gb

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have 8 with my optiplex

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >am5 is ddr5 only
    >ddr5 is still a meme
    so it's literally beta testing

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    built as holdover until DDR5 systems aren't stupid power hungry space heaters
    >Buy 16GB
    >Amazon sends 64GB
    >Tells me to keep
    Feels overkill tbh

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Im gonna get something like that... or maybe I can stretch it to a 12600 with 32 gb.
      Meanwhile, i have to deal with this (not that I comply, i can play whatever i want)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I bought bought some PC case fans from Amazon, package said it was 2 per pack so I got 2 packs (they were pretty cheap).
      I get my 2 packs but each pack had 4 fans in them so I have 4 more fans than I needed.
      I double checked my order and the item but nothing said it would be 4 fans per pack.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I wish that would happen to me

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >64GB

        You really don't. There's no benefit there.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >massive paging ceiling for general OS use
          >huge buffer for vram uses
          idk that's pretty beneficial for a number of basic use cases

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >3rd person sony template movie game
        >ultimate ray tracing
        frick off moron lol

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >it doesn't count!

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            asking for 32gb ram for a fully raytraced open world game at 4k 60fps really isn't that drastic

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              But it exists

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              OP said that games are asking for 32GB ram to play at max settings, and Spiderman is asking for 32Gb of RAM to play at max settings.
              No one said games were asking for 32 GB of RAM to play at low settings.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >games
                So Which one apart from Spiderman?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                i dunno and don't care
                if one is asking then even if there aren't anymore at the moment then there will be more soon. The precedent is set and that's what matters not the semantic technicalities between game and games

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              yes it is you fricking Black person. PS5 has 16 gigs TOTAL. it's rendering the same world. 42 gigs of memory total? they can frick off with that bullshit, they DO NOT need to hold half of the game's assets at all time and they aren't. shitty fricking snoy coders i swear.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        are you fricking stupid?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How does ps4 version run on shitty 10 year old hardware when this asks for so much? Do they just get pajeets to make pc games?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          But anon, don't you want the ULTIMATE RAY TRACING EXPERIENCE™ that only a SONY GAMES STUDIO® can offer to the PC Master Race?

          Not even texture swapping between RAM and VRAM can be an excuse for needing 32Gb and it's utter bullshit to make it seem more demanding.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Those parts requirements are all guesswork. Any cpu slightly stronger than the recomended would handle all the settings to the highest level. Only raw gpu strength is necessary past that.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >shitty 10 year old hardware
          Frick you.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Did Ghost of Tsushima get announced yet? frick spooderman

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Recommend specs are just marketing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >5600x
        >3070
        >32gb ram
        >2tb nvme
        it's gaymen time

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I genuinely don't understand what on earth could the difference be between "amazing ray tracing" and "ultimate ray tracing" that would necessitate 16 extra GB's of RAM.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You didn't read that one was at 1440p and the other 4k.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >ultimate ray tracing
        more like ultimate moron

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >RTX: Very High
        Not as high as you. Time to set the crack pipe down.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >have the ultimate ray tracing spec
        time for spoodering

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >straight to 6800xt
        6700xt bros

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >1440p60fps 6900XT with "amazing ray tracing"
        >4k60fps 6950XT with "ultimate ray tracing"
        something doesn't add up, the only difference between 6900 and 6950 is clockspeed and that tiny difference won't net you a bump from 1440p60 to 4k60 at HIGHER QUALITY RT

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The whole chart doesn't make sense that adding in ray tracing suddenly increases the CPU and RAM requirement.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        does it really need to load nearly half of the game into ram when you play?
        seriously though, why havent game file sizes increased as much as their ram requirements? the PS2 had 32mb of ram for games that were multiple gb and it didnt have an ssd to make the load any easier

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Spiderman Remastered
        This game came out a couple of years ago, what the frick is there to remaster

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They made peter look more like tom holland.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's bullshit, requirements listed have almost always been bloated to hell and back, but rarely will you actually need stuff like that.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    requirements r all bloated so when you have performance issues/bugs they refused to fix after blowing 4mil in securing face & hair rights for their latest shit protag they can say you need him better pc

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Vidcons was some really good shit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        why did he stop?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I guess at some point you're bound to run out of ideas and if you're not a homosexual you stop or slow content creation to a crawl like the nedroid guy

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >nedroid stopped
            >ronnie stopped

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Devs continue to use brute force instead of optimizing their games, more at 11.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i'd get at least 64gb for workstations

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >you'll never need more than 640k

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Name one fricking game which needs more than 8/16

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    And yet console's get away with 16 shared makes you think

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Who knew that low settings require lower amounts of memory?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You do understand most PC's will have 16+8=24.
        So yah PC is a mess or windows is or whatever.
        Nobody cares games barely work 1y after release.
        Next gen will be a disaster.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what game requires more than 16gb

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Microsoft Flight Simulator

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Does it? I run it fine on 16Gb, and that's what was stated on the pre-release stuff from what I remember.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Does it? I run it fine on 16Gb, and that's what was stated on the pre-release stuff from what I remember.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I just checked and the "Ideal" specs show 32Gb RAM.

        Fair enough, but it's fine with 16Gb DDR4.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like having 32GB for multitasking. And it's not super expensive or anything, like $150 for 2x16 maybe? Plus, code will become less and less optimized over time, making the need for upgrades more necessary. And then, code will get even less optimized because of these upgrades, leading to the necessity of more upgrades.

    It's been a vicious cycle that won't slow down until terminals replace PCs in a couple of decades.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I ran into problems with some games with only 16gb. Most games don't need 32gb, but game + browser + voip + etc, you can start running into needing to use virtual memory which really fricking sucks

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So your SSD doesn't have ram?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >runs tons of electron pozz
      >wonders why she needs 32gb of ram
      This doesn't occur my machine.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    they're likely inflating it on purpose, otherwise why would anyone ever upgrade.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    max settings have always been a meme.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Ganker says more than 8 gb is overkill
    >Ganker then says more than 16 gb is overkill
    >most games nowadays require more than 16 gb to run optimally

    I fricking hate how often I have to update my pc parts because of dogshit pc build guides

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      8GB recommendation is something like 10 years old at this point.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Increasing graphics requires increasing hardware demands. Most games don't actually need 16 though.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        how do we go from 16gb of memory to 32 though.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          4k ultra textures with no image compression because frick filesizue savings that cause no noticable quality loss.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      16GB is still overkill unless you're going for the highest possible quality and at that point you might as well sink another $50-100 for more if you're going to splurge like that. Only reason I upgraded to 32GB is because I like to run a lot of background shit and I was able to get some on a decent sale.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM

    Are they?

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Speaking of ram i had 8gb ram at the start and people told me to increase it, since my gpu was 12gb.
    I got new ram sticks and they're both the exact same.
    However some games just crash.
    Is it my ram, or my gpu?
    Some of these games i never tried before so i dont know what causes jt.
    My gpu is a radeon 6700XT and my ram sticks are Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What motherboard?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        MSI Intel B560M-A PRO
        Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      AMD driver, there's your answer

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Time for memtest86. Though I think your memory settings like timings and latency are wrong.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You could have put one of the ram sticks in the wrong slot. They run in pairs.
      Google to see what I mean and look at yours.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I did put them in right, they wouldn't fit in the other way

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Lookup how to memtest your ram. If it's bad, call your vendor.
      As an alternative you can swap out the ram for the old one and see if it crashes, but if the crashes are inconsistent it might be hard to get a definitive answer.

      If the ram is good, it might be gpu, cpu, power supply...

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What's the problem? Just download more ram.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I need to upgrade my MSI RX 480 before it dies, would a RX 5600 XT be fine to replace it?

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    32GB
    You're full of shit. Games aren't even using 16GB VRAM at 4K. Let alone, RAM.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Far cry 6 with the HD texture pack gets close - it will eat a good 12-13gb vram at max settings at 4k.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Welcome to the future

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >75GB
        moronic.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          75 is pretty low really, especially for a console port. Isn't Red Dead 2 like 100 GB?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yep, so's GTA V.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yep, so's GTA V.

            That's also moronic. I feel like file sizes are growing exponentially.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Almost like monitor resolutions are growing exponentially

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Games with these huge filesizes are when the devs are too lazy to come up with any sort of audio compression so you have 40 GB of chinese and portugese dub taking up space on your hard drive for no fricking reason

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit. This is just Sony gassing up their game on a spec sheet. Everyone knows the PS5 is rocking nothing stronger than a 2060 Super.
        A 3070 for 4K@60? Yeah, right.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The PS5 also isn't doing actual 4k. Ever.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >64 for workstation
    What? Depends on what work you do. Most workstations can get away with 8 or less even. If all you do is word/excell.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He means workstations that render shit, like doing actual work. Not your mom's notebook that she does accounting on.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t think you know what the word workstation means

      hint: it doesnt mean “computer that you do work on”

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't have 32gb ram you're a poorgay and holding gaming back. My piece of shit MacBook from 2014 had 8gb ram, and you only have 16 8 years later

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    12gb vram minimum for the future
    32gb ram minimum for the future.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw have a 3060ti with 8gb vram
      At least I'm still only on 1080p.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >le futureproofing
      just get 32gb when you need it. it's not that expensive to just get 16gb more ram

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >buy a second ram kit to upgrade my pc to 32gb
        >pc won't boot with all of them installed
        >turns upgrading ram isn't as plug and play as I was led to believe
        >even if you buy a similar ram kit from the same manufacturer with the same speeds it's still left up to luck if it all works together or not
        >my only option now is to buy the entire 32 GB kit and toss out my old 16GB

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn't know you NEVER mix and match ram kits
          How the frick is even possible to be this moronic and function in society?
          Do you also need help to keep yourself from drooling?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah well when people said " upgrading ram is easy bro just don't mix amd match ram kits" I thought they meant "don't mix Kingston 3200mhz with Corsair 3600mhz" and not "yeah bro you just unplug the 16GB kit you have installed and toss it into the fricking trash then plug in the new 32GB kit you bought"

            You should've checked if your mobo supports 32GB first my man. They usually have that info listed on the manual

            It does support more than 32GB. The two kits just don't work together.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Mixing and matching is completely viable nowadays, anon just got unlucky. Getting same kits now is just a "100% safe instead of 95% safe" option.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >nowadays
              I've ran mismatched sticks for over 10 years at this point. Obviously you won't get the best performance you could get out of them but it's not like your computer will explode.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, it only became really safe to mix and match basically anything when DDR4 came out in 2014, which was...oh, 8 years ago.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You should've checked if your mobo supports 32GB first my man. They usually have that info listed on the manual

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm never upgrading again. My 1650 will last me until the end times.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i'll get 32gb in a few years when i build a new PC

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Eh, I was thinking of upgrading to 64GB or more eventually

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've got 2 sticks of 8GB in my motherboard with 2 slots spare. Is it worth it to add 2 more?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you store your OS on an SSD, then yes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I store my OS and all my games on the same NVMe.

        Almost like monitor resolutions are growing exponentially

        What does render resolution have to do with file size?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >If you store your OS on an SSD, then yes.
        how does that affect things when it comes to ram?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Depending on your settings, your OS may still have virtual memory enabled. Increasing your RAM will lower the frequency that your OS will read/write from this virtual memory pool. Therefore, increasing your memory can extend the life of your SSD.

          I think Windows 10 finally got smart enough to disable virtual memory when it detects an SSD, but Windows is a shitty OS, half of it is broken and the other half is bloated. There's no telling unless you look up how your current system is configured.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >32
    literally 0 games require that much ram. kys

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is literally how it is
    >WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT PLAY FORNITE ON MY 32X XP MACHINE?
    Get with the times grandpa

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >so in the next few years are we gonna we see something like:
    We're there now moron. If you build a PC today with less than 32GB of RAM I'm going to assume you're a poor gay

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >If you build a PC today with less than 32GB of RAM I'm going to assume you're a poor gay
      A decent 16gb stick is not even that expensive

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, that's my point. Only a poor gay would go less than 32gb unless the PC had a specific use case that didn't require more.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >if you don't mindlessly spend money on unnecessary things I'm going to assume you're not a consumerist like me
      fixed that for you

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Buy 16gb today
        >Will need to upgrade within 5 years or suffer
        >Buy 32gb today
        >Can comfortably use the computer for 10+ years
        >Can retire the computer to server duty more comfortably

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          what will you be doing in 5 years that would require 32gb? most people don't need more than 4 honestly.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >most people don't need more than 4 honestly.
            Webdevs are ruining the internet with their crap, 4GBs is nothing nowadays if you're a normalgay who uses facebook

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know and neither do you.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              so why buy 32gb now? wouldn't it be better to just stick with 16gb then either buy an extra 16gb in the future or buy new 32gb when you inevitably upgrade to a processor that only supports ddr5?

              The only reason I would see buying 32gb is if you actually do any work that would become more comfortable with 32gb+ or hobbies that require 32gb or more.

              t. has 32gb for vms, encoding, work, etc

              >buy a second ram kit to upgrade my pc to 32gb
              >pc won't boot with all of them installed
              >turns upgrading ram isn't as plug and play as I was led to believe
              >even if you buy a similar ram kit from the same manufacturer with the same speeds it's still left up to luck if it all works together or not
              >my only option now is to buy the entire 32 GB kit and toss out my old 16GB

              I've done the same thing without issues, incel.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I've done the same thing without issues
                Oh the joys of never running memtest86 and thinking everything is fine.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                that's the thing
                it doesn't and you don't know about it
                eventually when a crucial system file gets corrupted you will find out
                but by them you will have thousands of other files also corrupted in your system

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                complete fear mongering.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why not? It's cheap, it can be hard to find an identical 16GB kit later down the line and now I never have to think about RAM.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Of course you can do that, but for most people there's no reason to. All it does if fuel misinformation that you NEED more ram because of the future or some other stupid crap. Most people don't need that much ram since they will most likely be playing what ever flavour of the month game is popular.(which is most people)

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Don't give up, Shamiko! Become a smart demon who knows how to use a computer!

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing that requires that much RAM is raytracing because it's massively inefficient and makes games with artist designed lighting look worse anyway.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    its days like this where I'm very glad to be autistic, all the shitty games full of cute critters i want to play run "just okay" on my glorious refurbished thinkpad (LCD-enabled rice cooker)

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    brehs... half my ram is [hardware reserved] how do i cope

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That means you're using an APU right? Just get a GPU?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i have a gpu i think my shit is just bugged

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    32 is a meme, literally one game lists it as required and it's a port of a fricking PS game so odds are it doesn't really need that much. 99% of games run on 16 or lower, outside super autistic stuff like mega modded skyrim.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you must be 18 years old to post here. you sound like some zoomer on his first computer.

      >lmao you'll never need more than a gig of ram
      >lmao you'll never need more than 2 gigs of ram
      >lmao you'll never need more than 8 gigs of ram
      >lmao you'll never need more than 16 gigs of ram
      >lmao 32 gigs of ram is a meme

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        that's how it goes actually. 20 years ago people were saying it's impossible to ever use a terabyte.

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings
    Yes, back in 2019
    Who the frick even has less than 32GB of ram nowadays anyway?

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    your options to get the usual 2x8 GB kit are really limited with DDR5. so you either stick with 1x16 GB but only get one kit, so single channel, and loose a lot of performance, or you buy into the scheme and go with 2x16 GB. or you buy one of those really cheapo looking, green, blank PCB ram modules, that, sure, probably perform just as good but dont come with the gamer heat sink and gamer RGB

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't seen any good games yet

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    And? I always buy more than I need. That way I skip an upgrade cycle. If you're running less than 64 you're asking for problems.

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No reason to have more than 8GB

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why spec requirements are going up but visual fidelity is staying the same.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ineptitude

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >upgrade to 32gb with the rest of my rig for DCS multiplayer
    >now you better have 64gb
    fricking bullshit

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For whatever reason it was cheaper to buy 2 16GB sticks then it was to buy a single stick of the same RAM.

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is it a big deal if I put the ram in the slots next to each other? I don't have room to separate them

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      technically shouldn't be, just bad for cooling
      in actuality, I can't tell you because when I fiddled with mine the PC wouldn't start up for a bit until I rearranged them again

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      its not bad but you wont be getting the maximum speed from the ram because it won't be running dual channel

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I figured. Thanks mate.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Holy crap, broken RAM is the most obnoxious shit ever. I finally removed the module that was malfunctioning and ordered replacements.
    >random shutdowns on everything
    >tabs crashing randomly
    >games closing randomly
    >screen freezing randomly when starting something
    >programs repeatedly crashing on startup
    >bluescreens
    >blackscreen loops with crazy fan speeds
    etc etc
    Took me weeks to figure out what it was and it's such a relief that it's gone now, gotta wait for my replacement still

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Memtest86 should always be the first thing you do if your PC starts to consistently do weird shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah hindsight is 20/20
        the problem is when it starts affecting other stuff. I was kinda "red herring"d by the fact that it coincided with a heat wave, thought it was overheating.
        Then I did a windows integrity check and it detected corrupted files so I thought it was that
        Then I checked my hard drive and it found more corrupted files (which was probably just the RAM causing issues)
        So I was lead on this wild goose chase for weeks until I finally did memtest and yeah, in retrospect it couldn't have been more obvious. It's just weird that I had that problem a year ago, then it went away, now it resurfaced and got twice as bad

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah RAM failures are fricked like that, they tend to present as everything *but* what you'd expect RAM to do when it starts to go bad.

          Extremely common for people to replace HDD's/SSD's thinking that's the problem.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Electrical resistance increases with tempetature, your overclock was probably marginally unstable and a small increase in ambient heat was enough to push it over the tipping point.

          If you still have the ram it would be worth checking it with stock timings and seeing if the failures are reproducable.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        memtest86 is a fricking pain to run. having to run a memory test for almost 2 days straight lol wtf.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >having to run a memory test for almost 2 days straight
          While you sleep is more than enough.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            which memtest is the real one now? there's memtest.org and memtest86.com

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          On one hand yeah. On the other, a lot of issues are detected within the first minute.
          If it doesn't detect issues it might've just not run long enough, but if it detects issues right away you already got your definitive answer.

          I tested one ram stick and it was nothing but errors. I tested the other for 2 hours and while it's not conclusive it didn't run into issues so at least I can assume it's somewhat health and that the billion errors weren't just memtest malfunctioning or the slot being bad.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    4GB (6gb Vram)

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw went full moron with 4x4gb
    I only had money for 8gb back then and i didn't want to use single channel

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how do games go from 8 to 16 to 32gb ram usage? shouldn't they go from 16 to 32 progressively (16-20-24-28-32) instead of a literal x2 jump in usage?

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    PCgays: the only tards dense enough to think it's better for games to consume increasingly demanding resources.

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >AAA crap

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have 64gb just because I got it on sale and wanted to fill my slots. Modded Minecraft and Vintage Story definitely benefit from more than 16gb of RAM, but I haven't run into much else that does.

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We're actually in the best possible universe. Putting everything in RAM means no more loading screens. This includes hidden loading screens like TLOU puzzles, if you can call them that, and Mass Effect 10 hour elevators. Everything is placed in RAM and the most players have to deal with is some cache misses. Get excited for Arma and Apex view distance in every game.

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >been running into memory related BSOD recently
    >run memtest for all night, for multiple nights
    >no errors
    >run seatools on my drives
    >no errors
    I've never had a problem like this before. I have no idea where to go from here.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Could be PSU related. Power supply issues can be hard to diagnose because varying tests for various hardware components can tax the PSU in different ways. Voltage problems related to a PSU can look very similar to a failing RAM module.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The PSU could also be fine and he's just getting dirty power from the wall

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if a game requires more than 8, then it's not 2 worth playing

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    im already at 64 gigs so im good for a while

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *ddr5 sticks come out*
      nothin personnel

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        will likely go up to DDR5 in a few intel generations no reason to upgrade my 20 threaded CPU for a while

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They're using consumers as beta testers lol. Wait 2 years or so

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        there is no point upgrading solely for ddr5 ram. RAM has a very little impact on performance. You could literally be running ddr3 today if boards allowed it and most people wouldn't even notice a difference.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >RAM has a very little impact on performance
          I can tell you don't own a Ryzen.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            why would i buy a CPU with such an obvious defect?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think I've ever come across a single game where the ram speed was the bottleneck on performance.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Unless you go with extremely poor quality sticks it won't be. But all modern cpus prefer two sticks over 1 unless you have a particular high quality single stick that works likes it's actually 2. Higher ram speed is also preferable over slower. Ryzen caps out at ddr4 3800 ram speed. Intel can still use it up to ddr4 4400 and any ddr4 speed higher almost always requires ram overclocking expertise. Ddr5 6000 is the early sweetspot speed of good performance and fairly common to find.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is there really any point going above 3200? I mean how much performance are you actually going to squeeze out of you machine with RAM faster than that?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Depending on the game and your hardware (CPU mostly), 10-35% more FPS going from CL16 3200Mhz to CL15 4133Mhz with tuned secondary timings.
                DDR5 is hit or miss as the latency is so high, depends on the game, CL32 7200Mhz seems to be alright though but it requires watercooling.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'ma be switching from CL18 2400mhz 16gb to CL18 4000mhz 32gb, was it a moron move? The sticks should arrive any day now.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Sometimes I need to take a step back and realize the diminishing returns but also that not everybody is a competitive sweat like me.

                Yes that is a good upgrade.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                But I wonder how much of an impact would the secondary timings have if I'm running 8700k

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Frick, I didn't mean to post just yet, so these are the bad boys I got. They were sus cheap.

                G.Skill Ripjaws V, DDR4, 16 GB, 4000MHz, CL15 (F4-4000C15D-16GVK)

                I'm playing things like Tarkov, Hunt Showdown, any triple A's that come out. Todd Kino, et cetra.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                dude frick me im moronic its 6am where I live, 16x2gb 4000mhz cl18 ripjaws*

                good night boys

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                CL18 4000Mhz vs CL15 4133Mhz
                All low settings on an 8700k
                Probably 3-10% at most. This is low settings as well.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If you're on intel then they will work fine. If you're on ryzen then you'll actually lose performance over 3800.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >35% fps gain from RAM alone
                You are a fricking moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Really depends on the game. New Hitman 3 is really ram sensitive and loves ram upgrades.

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings
    Only if you hve a poor CPU and GPU vram

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    And what games need 32gb?
    The most I've ever seen was 12GB used and that was Battlefield V

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >what is pagefiling
    >lets cut out 95% of our playerbase by making a bloated game

  67. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >he fell for the max settings meme

  68. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    man every time there's a pc thread on Ganker you idiots just crack me up. how is it possible to be so bad at something?

  69. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My PC has had 16gb of ram for 8 years. Would be nice that you people finally are going to 32.

  70. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What the point of more ram than vram?
    Won't you just max out at vram?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They are for two different things. Programs vs pixels.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Vram is for what you currently see on the screen. Ram is for everything in the level that could possibly be needed to make the game work.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      vram is only used by your GPU, unless you have a 3090 you probably won't have more vram than regular ram.

  71. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM
    LMAO

  72. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings
    Name literally ONE you fricking homosexual

  73. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw 64GB

    😀

  74. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings
    Name 1 (one) game. I'll wait. The absolute most I've ever seen used was Squad at 17.8gb and it was a memory leak that got patched.

  75. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Alright, I'm gonna post it again, tell me if this would be ideal for replacing my aging rig with a GTX 1060 and 1080p monitor:
    >Monitor - 1440p 144hz
    >Chassis - ATX Mid-Tower
    >Motherboard - X670E (AM5-socketed ATX Model)
    >CPU - AMD Ryzen 7000 Series
    >GPU - Nvidia RTX 3080 (10GB VRAM) or AMD equivalent
    >RAM - DDR5-5400 2x8GB (room to upgrade with another 2x8GB later)
    >PSU - 900 to 1199 Watt Range

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      if you're gonna get a psu that strong anyways you might as well go for a rtx 4070 or 4080 instead unless you're buying used

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        So what level of PSU should I get if that's overpowered? I'm trying to keep a budget under 2000, ideally around the 1000-1500 range

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          for a 3080 you only need a 750W

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >lists case and monitor
      frick off you moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      From my experience, and also its not really recommended to buy "same" ram later. There might be some slight manufacturing differences causing problems. I tried to upgrade from 2x16gb to 4x and after that i had BSOD like every minute.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >its not really recommended to buy "same" ram later. There might be some slight manufacturing differences causing problems
        Care to elaborate? I'm about to pull my trigger on second 2x8 Samsung-B die RAM kit, but i noticed there is high percent of malfunctions in user reports(like 8% has problems, pretty huge)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Faulty RAM modules are relatively rare but they can definitely happen. Just do some troubleshooting to determine what's the issue.

  76. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    DDR5 is the only way to reduce ram amount

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      LOL
      LMAO even
      you will consume more and you will be happy, 128gb will be the new standard

  77. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >playing games that needs more that 8GB
    Lm@oing at all of you

  78. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >8gb is more than enough

  79. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The most recent tripleA game I played was Elden Ring. With OBS running a stream and a bunch of other apps + browser with multiple tabs.

    Never got over 14GB.
    16GB is enough.

  80. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >32GB: recommended for vidya

    The "low latancy" ones are still capped at 8gb a stick, but personally for me it's the Data Drive speed now. The exception are high RAM games like Arma. Finding the perfect combination for Planetside 2 rendering would essentially future proof your computer.

  81. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    16GB is still enough for like 99% of games.

    If you're running heavy mods, background video encoding/etc. or running meme shit like ultra mega raytracing then yea you might need 32GB, but that's a small percentage of users.

    If you're buying new hardware soon with the expectation of using it for several years then it doesn't hurt to go for 32GB, but you can always just go with 2x8GB in a 4-slot mobo and add another 2x8GB later if you need it. Unused RAM is a complete waste afterall.

  82. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    im already 64gb

  83. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares ram is like one of the cheapest components.

  84. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad I'm dying in a few years, I should had been dead back on 21st December 2012.
    Your generation is absolutely abysmal at making anything; bad furniture, bad sinks, bad pizzas, bad coffees, bad everything.
    NeoNvidia can't design a power-efficient GPU worth a shit and just keep making bigger workstation-tier GPUs to spread the heat around it better while pumping more watts into it and calling it "progression".
    Software pajeets still refuse to code properly and everybody else refuses to blacklist pajeets.
    Everybody refuses to blacklist Unity and Unreal from ever being used as official game engines. Unreal & Unity are BYOND, Game Maker & RPG Maker tier. They're designed to create games that look worse than the Genesis and SNES and require 500MB-2GB of space and 4GB of RAM and 4 quad core processors at 3GHz instead of 4MB of space, 64KB of RAM, 7.6 MHz processors. Absolutely pitiful. Not even PC games like JazzJackRabbit 2 and Captain Claw consumed as much as a game produced in Game Maker.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      sorry chud, we'll make a game that'll clog up your 15tb hdd so much only our game will be on your hdd and if you use an ssd then tough luck because our latest patch implemented a feature where we save the game every second so you can say bye bye to your ssd's lifetime. also as a new feature that'll be published in the oncoming day zero-minus-one patch we'll make the game render the entire game at once! that way you'll be required to have at least 128gb ram otherwise you won't be able to play our game. we are sorry to those affected.
      anyway buy our nfts and some merch or whatever
      sincerely john unitydev

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      literal moron, I'm glad you're dying too, go be dumb as hell in actual hell

  85. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    tbh I don't see how current games would need anywhere near 16GB if they were properly optimized

    but I'm a 1080p gamer, so I don't need to care

  86. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Their isn't one game that needs 32 GB of ram frick random steam requirements and use your brain. What games even touch the necessity for 32GB of ram when ram speeds don't mean jack shit?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >ram speeds don't mean jack shit
      nah, that's mostly out of date. it's just that system RAM is basically part of the CPU side. It used to be that the CPU side was never ever the bottleneck, back when Intel blew the curve out with Sandy Bridge, or if it was the bottleneck it was completely because the game was only loading one thread. Now lots of games seriously load the CPU and system memory latency can matter.
      It's still not money-efficient to buy high end RAM though, but decent over dogshit is usually the right call

  87. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When I built my new PC last year and I did go 32gb. My previous build from 2012 had 16gb. Doubt I'll really ever need that much but better safe then sorry.

  88. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM
    pretty sure we didn't, on side note you are a moron if you still do not have an SSD

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      for example Escape from Tarkov pulls over 16 gb if you include paged memory, your memory usage in task bar =/= actual memory usage. The actual performance improvement will vary a lot depending on the technical aspect of game design. My FPS barely changed in tarkov when I switched from 1060 to 3070, but Horizon Zero Dawn literally went from avg 40 fps to avg 100fps+. So there are games that are heavily CPU bound while others are heavily GPU bound and the same goes for memory, there are some games that massively benefit from a faster RAM, like ARMA 3 for example. It's worth noting that just because game is CPU bound it doesn't mean that better RAM will improve it's performance.

      >its not really recommended to buy "same" ram later. There might be some slight manufacturing differences causing problems
      Care to elaborate? I'm about to pull my trigger on second 2x8 Samsung-B die RAM kit, but i noticed there is high percent of malfunctions in user reports(like 8% has problems, pretty huge)

      one part of the problem is that memory has many different clocks and you want both of the sticks to run on the exactly same clocks for optimal performance

      there's more to it but I know jackshit about technicalities, eitherway it's been a known fact for years to always have memories from the same kit. If you are dead set on buying another memory stick you need to make sure it's exactly the same one. At least that was the case pre-ddr4 when I cared to know.

      btw Taiphoon Reader is your friend, god speed

      I am literally going to swap my DDR4 adata 2400mhz CL15 to G.skill 4000mhz CL18 in an hour or so when I move my lazy ass to postal office and I can run some benchmarks for y'all if you want. I believe I will get at least 10fps more in tarkov. Frick it I'm going, im anxious to see the difference.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why then you typed in previous post that it's not recommended?
        I thought it is, so i was planning to buy same G.Skill Sniper X RAM(still not sure though, only two times i was OOM, in VRChat populated world and in UE4 Editor)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >its not really recommended to buy "same" ram later. There might be some slight manufacturing differences causing problems
        Care to elaborate? I'm about to pull my trigger on second 2x8 Samsung-B die RAM kit, but i noticed there is high percent of malfunctions in user reports(like 8% has problems, pretty huge)

        I was talking about literally the same sticks, same manufacturer, same clock speed etc... i read somewhere, and im lazy to find the source, that even the same sticks are not always the same, they may have some minor differences in some details and can cause problems. As i said, i tried to upgrade from 32 to 64 and w10 went crazy with BSODs and other stuff. Earlier i upgraded my workstation and everythink went well. You will never know, but since the BSOD incident, when im building new PC, i will try to max out my ram preferences instead of upgrading later.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >that even the same sticks are not always the same
          Makes sense, as sometimes they can change for example Samsung B-dies to other shit.
          I doubt they can change anything other than that though, and i doubt problem will preserve in recommended settings(for me it's 3200, as Intel not really benefits from fast ram)

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I read it when i googled why w10 is shizoing after ram upgrade. Then i put the other newer 2x16 sticks in other PC and works well.

  89. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Muh ram
    Don't care.
    Should I switch my 5600x for a 5800x3d when the 7000s come out? I won't change my mobo for at least 3/4 more years.

  90. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have a 3080Ti and a 5950 and everything runs perfectly on 32gb of RAM.

    I do a lot of photo and video editing, so I wouldn't be against upping to 64gb somewhere down the line.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I have the same specs but only 3080. 32gb is really the sweet spot atm for games and basic multitasking.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, anything more I'd probably never notice a thing speed wise

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