We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings, so in the next few years are we gonna we see something like:
>8GB: poorgay tier
>16GB: everyday tasks
>32GB: recommended for vidya
>64GB: recommended for workstations
>128GB or above: overkill
>He doesn't have 2TB ECC
How well do games run on a 32 core CPU with a 2 Ghz max clock?
>ECC ram for gaming
Full moron
No game needs more than 16 GB to play smoothly.
t. Consolegay
what games do you even play that require 32 GB?
COD Warzone takes more that that. Granted, it was only 16,4GB on my settings but still.
>5% improvement on cod warzone max settings
ok
Warzone is a moronic 230GB game due to developer incompetence. It's by no metric the standard or an example to follow.
will be the new norm sadly
yes, expect it to get worse over the years
what does 5% improvement even mean, it's only for 240hz+ right
I haven't played a game that requires anything beyond half my ram
I use 8 gb
I dont need more
I guess people that play the most recent AAA games
I mean most are unoptimized +100gb garbage, i wouldn't be surprised if they also need tons of ram
RAM allocation /= RAM usage
my modded cities skylines would like to have a word with you
you don't even need to mod cities skylines, just buy the dlc and be surprised when the game won't load into a level.
sounds like you need more RAM, also TPM literally changed how I play the game entirely so
check warzone comparissons with 16 and 32, almost every time theres a 5% fps improvement and less stutters
Remember when people said this for 4? And then 8?
It's obviously he meant right now, not forever.
>128gb or above for workstations
Im currently at 128gb and After Effects eats to whole shit like nothing. Also shitloads or ram and vram are good for simulations like fluid, cloth etc...
>Play vidya
>Food is ready
>AltTab to watch my current eating series or browse
>AltTab back to vidya without any hickup
Anno 1800 needs more than 16 gigs when you are over 100 hours in a save
Hardware demands often seem very bloated to me, many games seem to have requirements they have no business having.
I do believe some COD game asked for 16 or 32 and it was clear hogwash that it needed it.
Publishers and developers state higher requirements to shield themselves and because they know average moron has 100 chrome tabs and disc*rd and other shit running with the game.
I'm emulating PS2 and Wii games I could probably get away with 4gb.
>32gb
list 20 games that need it
He can't, the majority of games don't.
Don't games use mostly VRAM though?
i have never seen one that required that much DDRRAM
large maps, like an 8 player civilization game.
civ7 will most likely require 32gb
I have 8 with my optiplex
>am5 is ddr5 only
>ddr5 is still a meme
so it's literally beta testing
built as holdover until DDR5 systems aren't stupid power hungry space heaters
>Buy 16GB
>Amazon sends 64GB
>Tells me to keep
Feels overkill tbh
Im gonna get something like that... or maybe I can stretch it to a 12600 with 32 gb.
Meanwhile, i have to deal with this (not that I comply, i can play whatever i want)
I bought bought some PC case fans from Amazon, package said it was 2 per pack so I got 2 packs (they were pretty cheap).
I get my 2 packs but each pack had 4 fans in them so I have 4 more fans than I needed.
I double checked my order and the item but nothing said it would be 4 fans per pack.
I wish that would happen to me
>64GB
You really don't. There's no benefit there.
>massive paging ceiling for general OS use
>huge buffer for vram uses
idk that's pretty beneficial for a number of basic use cases
>We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM
>3rd person sony template movie game
>ultimate ray tracing
frick off moron lol
>it doesn't count!
asking for 32gb ram for a fully raytraced open world game at 4k 60fps really isn't that drastic
But it exists
OP said that games are asking for 32GB ram to play at max settings, and Spiderman is asking for 32Gb of RAM to play at max settings.
No one said games were asking for 32 GB of RAM to play at low settings.
>games
So Which one apart from Spiderman?
i dunno and don't care
if one is asking then even if there aren't anymore at the moment then there will be more soon. The precedent is set and that's what matters not the semantic technicalities between game and games
yes it is you fricking Black person. PS5 has 16 gigs TOTAL. it's rendering the same world. 42 gigs of memory total? they can frick off with that bullshit, they DO NOT need to hold half of the game's assets at all time and they aren't. shitty fricking snoy coders i swear.
are you fricking stupid?
How does ps4 version run on shitty 10 year old hardware when this asks for so much? Do they just get pajeets to make pc games?
But anon, don't you want the ULTIMATE RAY TRACING EXPERIENCE™ that only a SONY GAMES STUDIO® can offer to the PC Master Race?
Not even texture swapping between RAM and VRAM can be an excuse for needing 32Gb and it's utter bullshit to make it seem more demanding.
Those parts requirements are all guesswork. Any cpu slightly stronger than the recomended would handle all the settings to the highest level. Only raw gpu strength is necessary past that.
>shitty 10 year old hardware
Frick you.
Did Ghost of Tsushima get announced yet? frick spooderman
Recommend specs are just marketing.
>5600x
>3070
>32gb ram
>2tb nvme
it's gaymen time
I genuinely don't understand what on earth could the difference be between "amazing ray tracing" and "ultimate ray tracing" that would necessitate 16 extra GB's of RAM.
You didn't read that one was at 1440p and the other 4k.
>ultimate ray tracing
more like ultimate moron
>RTX: Very High
Not as high as you. Time to set the crack pipe down.
>have the ultimate ray tracing spec
time for spoodering
>straight to 6800xt
6700xt bros
>1440p60fps 6900XT with "amazing ray tracing"
>4k60fps 6950XT with "ultimate ray tracing"
something doesn't add up, the only difference between 6900 and 6950 is clockspeed and that tiny difference won't net you a bump from 1440p60 to 4k60 at HIGHER QUALITY RT
The whole chart doesn't make sense that adding in ray tracing suddenly increases the CPU and RAM requirement.
does it really need to load nearly half of the game into ram when you play?
seriously though, why havent game file sizes increased as much as their ram requirements? the PS2 had 32mb of ram for games that were multiple gb and it didnt have an ssd to make the load any easier
>Spiderman Remastered
This game came out a couple of years ago, what the frick is there to remaster
They made peter look more like tom holland.
It's bullshit, requirements listed have almost always been bloated to hell and back, but rarely will you actually need stuff like that.
requirements r all bloated so when you have performance issues/bugs they refused to fix after blowing 4mil in securing face & hair rights for their latest shit protag they can say you need him better pc
Vidcons was some really good shit
why did he stop?
I guess at some point you're bound to run out of ideas and if you're not a homosexual you stop or slow content creation to a crawl like the nedroid guy
>nedroid stopped
>ronnie stopped
Devs continue to use brute force instead of optimizing their games, more at 11.
i'd get at least 64gb for workstations
>you'll never need more than 640k
Name one fricking game which needs more than 8/16
And yet console's get away with 16 shared makes you think
Who knew that low settings require lower amounts of memory?
You do understand most PC's will have 16+8=24.
So yah PC is a mess or windows is or whatever.
Nobody cares games barely work 1y after release.
Next gen will be a disaster.
what game requires more than 16gb
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Does it? I run it fine on 16Gb, and that's what was stated on the pre-release stuff from what I remember.
Yeah, I just checked and the "Ideal" specs show 32Gb RAM.
Fair enough, but it's fine with 16Gb DDR4.
I like having 32GB for multitasking. And it's not super expensive or anything, like $150 for 2x16 maybe? Plus, code will become less and less optimized over time, making the need for upgrades more necessary. And then, code will get even less optimized because of these upgrades, leading to the necessity of more upgrades.
It's been a vicious cycle that won't slow down until terminals replace PCs in a couple of decades.
I ran into problems with some games with only 16gb. Most games don't need 32gb, but game + browser + voip + etc, you can start running into needing to use virtual memory which really fricking sucks
So your SSD doesn't have ram?
>runs tons of electron pozz
>wonders why she needs 32gb of ram
This doesn't occur my machine.
they're likely inflating it on purpose, otherwise why would anyone ever upgrade.
max settings have always been a meme.
>Ganker says more than 8 gb is overkill
>Ganker then says more than 16 gb is overkill
>most games nowadays require more than 16 gb to run optimally
I fricking hate how often I have to update my pc parts because of dogshit pc build guides
8GB recommendation is something like 10 years old at this point.
Increasing graphics requires increasing hardware demands. Most games don't actually need 16 though.
how do we go from 16gb of memory to 32 though.
4k ultra textures with no image compression because frick filesizue savings that cause no noticable quality loss.
16GB is still overkill unless you're going for the highest possible quality and at that point you might as well sink another $50-100 for more if you're going to splurge like that. Only reason I upgraded to 32GB is because I like to run a lot of background shit and I was able to get some on a decent sale.
>where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM
Are they?
Speaking of ram i had 8gb ram at the start and people told me to increase it, since my gpu was 12gb.
I got new ram sticks and they're both the exact same.
However some games just crash.
Is it my ram, or my gpu?
Some of these games i never tried before so i dont know what causes jt.
My gpu is a radeon 6700XT and my ram sticks are Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16.
What motherboard?
MSI Intel B560M-A PRO
Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard
AMD driver, there's your answer
Time for memtest86. Though I think your memory settings like timings and latency are wrong.
You could have put one of the ram sticks in the wrong slot. They run in pairs.
Google to see what I mean and look at yours.
I did put them in right, they wouldn't fit in the other way
Lookup how to memtest your ram. If it's bad, call your vendor.
As an alternative you can swap out the ram for the old one and see if it crashes, but if the crashes are inconsistent it might be hard to get a definitive answer.
If the ram is good, it might be gpu, cpu, power supply...
What's the problem? Just download more ram.
I need to upgrade my MSI RX 480 before it dies, would a RX 5600 XT be fine to replace it?
32GB
You're full of shit. Games aren't even using 16GB VRAM at 4K. Let alone, RAM.
Far cry 6 with the HD texture pack gets close - it will eat a good 12-13gb vram at max settings at 4k.
Welcome to the future
>75GB
moronic.
75 is pretty low really, especially for a console port. Isn't Red Dead 2 like 100 GB?
Yep, so's GTA V.
That's also moronic. I feel like file sizes are growing exponentially.
Almost like monitor resolutions are growing exponentially
Games with these huge filesizes are when the devs are too lazy to come up with any sort of audio compression so you have 40 GB of chinese and portugese dub taking up space on your hard drive for no fricking reason
Bullshit. This is just Sony gassing up their game on a spec sheet. Everyone knows the PS5 is rocking nothing stronger than a 2060 Super.
A 3070 for 4K@60? Yeah, right.
The PS5 also isn't doing actual 4k. Ever.
>64 for workstation
What? Depends on what work you do. Most workstations can get away with 8 or less even. If all you do is word/excell.
He means workstations that render shit, like doing actual work. Not your mom's notebook that she does accounting on.
I don’t think you know what the word workstation means
hint: it doesnt mean “computer that you do work on”
If you don't have 32gb ram you're a poorgay and holding gaming back. My piece of shit MacBook from 2014 had 8gb ram, and you only have 16 8 years later
12gb vram minimum for the future
32gb ram minimum for the future.
>tfw have a 3060ti with 8gb vram
At least I'm still only on 1080p.
>le futureproofing
just get 32gb when you need it. it's not that expensive to just get 16gb more ram
>buy a second ram kit to upgrade my pc to 32gb
>pc won't boot with all of them installed
>turns upgrading ram isn't as plug and play as I was led to believe
>even if you buy a similar ram kit from the same manufacturer with the same speeds it's still left up to luck if it all works together or not
>my only option now is to buy the entire 32 GB kit and toss out my old 16GB
>doesn't know you NEVER mix and match ram kits
How the frick is even possible to be this moronic and function in society?
Do you also need help to keep yourself from drooling?
Yeah well when people said " upgrading ram is easy bro just don't mix amd match ram kits" I thought they meant "don't mix Kingston 3200mhz with Corsair 3600mhz" and not "yeah bro you just unplug the 16GB kit you have installed and toss it into the fricking trash then plug in the new 32GB kit you bought"
It does support more than 32GB. The two kits just don't work together.
Mixing and matching is completely viable nowadays, anon just got unlucky. Getting same kits now is just a "100% safe instead of 95% safe" option.
>nowadays
I've ran mismatched sticks for over 10 years at this point. Obviously you won't get the best performance you could get out of them but it's not like your computer will explode.
I mean, it only became really safe to mix and match basically anything when DDR4 came out in 2014, which was...oh, 8 years ago.
You should've checked if your mobo supports 32GB first my man. They usually have that info listed on the manual
I'm never upgrading again. My 1650 will last me until the end times.
i'll get 32gb in a few years when i build a new PC
Eh, I was thinking of upgrading to 64GB or more eventually
I've got 2 sticks of 8GB in my motherboard with 2 slots spare. Is it worth it to add 2 more?
If you store your OS on an SSD, then yes.
I store my OS and all my games on the same NVMe.
What does render resolution have to do with file size?
>If you store your OS on an SSD, then yes.
how does that affect things when it comes to ram?
Depending on your settings, your OS may still have virtual memory enabled. Increasing your RAM will lower the frequency that your OS will read/write from this virtual memory pool. Therefore, increasing your memory can extend the life of your SSD.
I think Windows 10 finally got smart enough to disable virtual memory when it detects an SSD, but Windows is a shitty OS, half of it is broken and the other half is bloated. There's no telling unless you look up how your current system is configured.
>32
literally 0 games require that much ram. kys
This is literally how it is
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT PLAY FORNITE ON MY 32X XP MACHINE?
Get with the times grandpa
>so in the next few years are we gonna we see something like:
We're there now moron. If you build a PC today with less than 32GB of RAM I'm going to assume you're a poor gay
>If you build a PC today with less than 32GB of RAM I'm going to assume you're a poor gay
A decent 16gb stick is not even that expensive
Yes, that's my point. Only a poor gay would go less than 32gb unless the PC had a specific use case that didn't require more.
>if you don't mindlessly spend money on unnecessary things I'm going to assume you're not a consumerist like me
fixed that for you
>Buy 16gb today
>Will need to upgrade within 5 years or suffer
>Buy 32gb today
>Can comfortably use the computer for 10+ years
>Can retire the computer to server duty more comfortably
what will you be doing in 5 years that would require 32gb? most people don't need more than 4 honestly.
>most people don't need more than 4 honestly.
Webdevs are ruining the internet with their crap, 4GBs is nothing nowadays if you're a normalgay who uses facebook
I don't know and neither do you.
so why buy 32gb now? wouldn't it be better to just stick with 16gb then either buy an extra 16gb in the future or buy new 32gb when you inevitably upgrade to a processor that only supports ddr5?
The only reason I would see buying 32gb is if you actually do any work that would become more comfortable with 32gb+ or hobbies that require 32gb or more.
t. has 32gb for vms, encoding, work, etc
I've done the same thing without issues, incel.
>I've done the same thing without issues
Oh the joys of never running memtest86 and thinking everything is fine.
that's the thing
it doesn't and you don't know about it
eventually when a crucial system file gets corrupted you will find out
but by them you will have thousands of other files also corrupted in your system
complete fear mongering.
Why not? It's cheap, it can be hard to find an identical 16GB kit later down the line and now I never have to think about RAM.
Of course you can do that, but for most people there's no reason to. All it does if fuel misinformation that you NEED more ram because of the future or some other stupid crap. Most people don't need that much ram since they will most likely be playing what ever flavour of the month game is popular.(which is most people)
Don't give up, Shamiko! Become a smart demon who knows how to use a computer!
The only thing that requires that much RAM is raytracing because it's massively inefficient and makes games with artist designed lighting look worse anyway.
its days like this where I'm very glad to be autistic, all the shitty games full of cute critters i want to play run "just okay" on my glorious refurbished thinkpad (LCD-enabled rice cooker)
brehs... half my ram is [hardware reserved] how do i cope
That means you're using an APU right? Just get a GPU?
i have a gpu i think my shit is just bugged
32 is a meme, literally one game lists it as required and it's a port of a fricking PS game so odds are it doesn't really need that much. 99% of games run on 16 or lower, outside super autistic stuff like mega modded skyrim.
you must be 18 years old to post here. you sound like some zoomer on his first computer.
>lmao you'll never need more than a gig of ram
>lmao you'll never need more than 2 gigs of ram
>lmao you'll never need more than 8 gigs of ram
>lmao you'll never need more than 16 gigs of ram
>lmao 32 gigs of ram is a meme
that's how it goes actually. 20 years ago people were saying it's impossible to ever use a terabyte.
>We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings
Yes, back in 2019
Who the frick even has less than 32GB of ram nowadays anyway?
your options to get the usual 2x8 GB kit are really limited with DDR5. so you either stick with 1x16 GB but only get one kit, so single channel, and loose a lot of performance, or you buy into the scheme and go with 2x16 GB. or you buy one of those really cheapo looking, green, blank PCB ram modules, that, sure, probably perform just as good but dont come with the gamer heat sink and gamer RGB
I haven't seen any good games yet
And? I always buy more than I need. That way I skip an upgrade cycle. If you're running less than 64 you're asking for problems.
No reason to have more than 8GB
I don't understand why spec requirements are going up but visual fidelity is staying the same.
ineptitude
>upgrade to 32gb with the rest of my rig for DCS multiplayer
>now you better have 64gb
fricking bullshit
For whatever reason it was cheaper to buy 2 16GB sticks then it was to buy a single stick of the same RAM.
Is it a big deal if I put the ram in the slots next to each other? I don't have room to separate them
technically shouldn't be, just bad for cooling
in actuality, I can't tell you because when I fiddled with mine the PC wouldn't start up for a bit until I rearranged them again
its not bad but you wont be getting the maximum speed from the ram because it won't be running dual channel
I figured. Thanks mate.
Holy crap, broken RAM is the most obnoxious shit ever. I finally removed the module that was malfunctioning and ordered replacements.
>random shutdowns on everything
>tabs crashing randomly
>games closing randomly
>screen freezing randomly when starting something
>programs repeatedly crashing on startup
>bluescreens
>blackscreen loops with crazy fan speeds
etc etc
Took me weeks to figure out what it was and it's such a relief that it's gone now, gotta wait for my replacement still
Memtest86 should always be the first thing you do if your PC starts to consistently do weird shit.
Yeah hindsight is 20/20
the problem is when it starts affecting other stuff. I was kinda "red herring"d by the fact that it coincided with a heat wave, thought it was overheating.
Then I did a windows integrity check and it detected corrupted files so I thought it was that
Then I checked my hard drive and it found more corrupted files (which was probably just the RAM causing issues)
So I was lead on this wild goose chase for weeks until I finally did memtest and yeah, in retrospect it couldn't have been more obvious. It's just weird that I had that problem a year ago, then it went away, now it resurfaced and got twice as bad
Yeah RAM failures are fricked like that, they tend to present as everything *but* what you'd expect RAM to do when it starts to go bad.
Extremely common for people to replace HDD's/SSD's thinking that's the problem.
Electrical resistance increases with tempetature, your overclock was probably marginally unstable and a small increase in ambient heat was enough to push it over the tipping point.
If you still have the ram it would be worth checking it with stock timings and seeing if the failures are reproducable.
memtest86 is a fricking pain to run. having to run a memory test for almost 2 days straight lol wtf.
>having to run a memory test for almost 2 days straight
While you sleep is more than enough.
which memtest is the real one now? there's memtest.org and memtest86.com
On one hand yeah. On the other, a lot of issues are detected within the first minute.
If it doesn't detect issues it might've just not run long enough, but if it detects issues right away you already got your definitive answer.
I tested one ram stick and it was nothing but errors. I tested the other for 2 hours and while it's not conclusive it didn't run into issues so at least I can assume it's somewhat health and that the billion errors weren't just memtest malfunctioning or the slot being bad.
4GB (6gb Vram)
>tfw went full moron with 4x4gb
I only had money for 8gb back then and i didn't want to use single channel
how do games go from 8 to 16 to 32gb ram usage? shouldn't they go from 16 to 32 progressively (16-20-24-28-32) instead of a literal x2 jump in usage?
PCgays: the only tards dense enough to think it's better for games to consume increasingly demanding resources.
>AAA crap
I have 64gb just because I got it on sale and wanted to fill my slots. Modded Minecraft and Vintage Story definitely benefit from more than 16gb of RAM, but I haven't run into much else that does.
We're actually in the best possible universe. Putting everything in RAM means no more loading screens. This includes hidden loading screens like TLOU puzzles, if you can call them that, and Mass Effect 10 hour elevators. Everything is placed in RAM and the most players have to deal with is some cache misses. Get excited for Arma and Apex view distance in every game.
>been running into memory related BSOD recently
>run memtest for all night, for multiple nights
>no errors
>run seatools on my drives
>no errors
I've never had a problem like this before. I have no idea where to go from here.
Could be PSU related. Power supply issues can be hard to diagnose because varying tests for various hardware components can tax the PSU in different ways. Voltage problems related to a PSU can look very similar to a failing RAM module.
The PSU could also be fine and he's just getting dirty power from the wall
if a game requires more than 8, then it's not 2 worth playing
im already at 64 gigs so im good for a while
*ddr5 sticks come out*
nothin personnel
will likely go up to DDR5 in a few intel generations no reason to upgrade my 20 threaded CPU for a while
They're using consumers as beta testers lol. Wait 2 years or so
there is no point upgrading solely for ddr5 ram. RAM has a very little impact on performance. You could literally be running ddr3 today if boards allowed it and most people wouldn't even notice a difference.
>RAM has a very little impact on performance
I can tell you don't own a Ryzen.
What?
why would i buy a CPU with such an obvious defect?
I don't think I've ever come across a single game where the ram speed was the bottleneck on performance.
Unless you go with extremely poor quality sticks it won't be. But all modern cpus prefer two sticks over 1 unless you have a particular high quality single stick that works likes it's actually 2. Higher ram speed is also preferable over slower. Ryzen caps out at ddr4 3800 ram speed. Intel can still use it up to ddr4 4400 and any ddr4 speed higher almost always requires ram overclocking expertise. Ddr5 6000 is the early sweetspot speed of good performance and fairly common to find.
Is there really any point going above 3200? I mean how much performance are you actually going to squeeze out of you machine with RAM faster than that?
Depending on the game and your hardware (CPU mostly), 10-35% more FPS going from CL16 3200Mhz to CL15 4133Mhz with tuned secondary timings.
DDR5 is hit or miss as the latency is so high, depends on the game, CL32 7200Mhz seems to be alright though but it requires watercooling.
I'ma be switching from CL18 2400mhz 16gb to CL18 4000mhz 32gb, was it a moron move? The sticks should arrive any day now.
Sometimes I need to take a step back and realize the diminishing returns but also that not everybody is a competitive sweat like me.
Yes that is a good upgrade.
But I wonder how much of an impact would the secondary timings have if I'm running 8700k
Frick, I didn't mean to post just yet, so these are the bad boys I got. They were sus cheap.
G.Skill Ripjaws V, DDR4, 16 GB, 4000MHz, CL15 (F4-4000C15D-16GVK)
I'm playing things like Tarkov, Hunt Showdown, any triple A's that come out. Todd Kino, et cetra.
dude frick me im moronic its 6am where I live, 16x2gb 4000mhz cl18 ripjaws*
good night boys
CL18 4000Mhz vs CL15 4133Mhz
All low settings on an 8700k
Probably 3-10% at most. This is low settings as well.
If you're on intel then they will work fine. If you're on ryzen then you'll actually lose performance over 3800.
>35% fps gain from RAM alone
You are a fricking moron
Really depends on the game. New Hitman 3 is really ram sensitive and loves ram upgrades.
>We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings
Only if you hve a poor CPU and GPU vram
And what games need 32gb?
The most I've ever seen was 12GB used and that was Battlefield V
>what is pagefiling
>lets cut out 95% of our playerbase by making a bloated game
>he fell for the max settings meme
man every time there's a pc thread on Ganker you idiots just crack me up. how is it possible to be so bad at something?
My PC has had 16gb of ram for 8 years. Would be nice that you people finally are going to 32.
What the point of more ram than vram?
Won't you just max out at vram?
They are for two different things. Programs vs pixels.
Vram is for what you currently see on the screen. Ram is for everything in the level that could possibly be needed to make the game work.
vram is only used by your GPU, unless you have a 3090 you probably won't have more vram than regular ram.
>We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM
LMAO
>We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings
Name literally ONE you fricking homosexual
>tfw 64GB
😀
>We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM if you want to play at max settings
Name 1 (one) game. I'll wait. The absolute most I've ever seen used was Squad at 17.8gb and it was a memory leak that got patched.
Alright, I'm gonna post it again, tell me if this would be ideal for replacing my aging rig with a GTX 1060 and 1080p monitor:
>Monitor - 1440p 144hz
>Chassis - ATX Mid-Tower
>Motherboard - X670E (AM5-socketed ATX Model)
>CPU - AMD Ryzen 7000 Series
>GPU - Nvidia RTX 3080 (10GB VRAM) or AMD equivalent
>RAM - DDR5-5400 2x8GB (room to upgrade with another 2x8GB later)
>PSU - 900 to 1199 Watt Range
if you're gonna get a psu that strong anyways you might as well go for a rtx 4070 or 4080 instead unless you're buying used
So what level of PSU should I get if that's overpowered? I'm trying to keep a budget under 2000, ideally around the 1000-1500 range
for a 3080 you only need a 750W
>lists case and monitor
frick off you moron
From my experience, and also its not really recommended to buy "same" ram later. There might be some slight manufacturing differences causing problems. I tried to upgrade from 2x16gb to 4x and after that i had BSOD like every minute.
>its not really recommended to buy "same" ram later. There might be some slight manufacturing differences causing problems
Care to elaborate? I'm about to pull my trigger on second 2x8 Samsung-B die RAM kit, but i noticed there is high percent of malfunctions in user reports(like 8% has problems, pretty huge)
Faulty RAM modules are relatively rare but they can definitely happen. Just do some troubleshooting to determine what's the issue.
DDR5 is the only way to reduce ram amount
LOL
LMAO even
you will consume more and you will be happy, 128gb will be the new standard
>playing games that needs more that 8GB
Lm@oing at all of you
>8gb is more than enough
The most recent tripleA game I played was Elden Ring. With OBS running a stream and a bunch of other apps + browser with multiple tabs.
Never got over 14GB.
16GB is enough.
>32GB: recommended for vidya
The "low latancy" ones are still capped at 8gb a stick, but personally for me it's the Data Drive speed now. The exception are high RAM games like Arma. Finding the perfect combination for Planetside 2 rendering would essentially future proof your computer.
16GB is still enough for like 99% of games.
If you're running heavy mods, background video encoding/etc. or running meme shit like ultra mega raytracing then yea you might need 32GB, but that's a small percentage of users.
If you're buying new hardware soon with the expectation of using it for several years then it doesn't hurt to go for 32GB, but you can always just go with 2x8GB in a 4-slot mobo and add another 2x8GB later if you need it. Unused RAM is a complete waste afterall.
im already 64gb
Who cares ram is like one of the cheapest components.
I'm glad I'm dying in a few years, I should had been dead back on 21st December 2012.
Your generation is absolutely abysmal at making anything; bad furniture, bad sinks, bad pizzas, bad coffees, bad everything.
NeoNvidia can't design a power-efficient GPU worth a shit and just keep making bigger workstation-tier GPUs to spread the heat around it better while pumping more watts into it and calling it "progression".
Software pajeets still refuse to code properly and everybody else refuses to blacklist pajeets.
Everybody refuses to blacklist Unity and Unreal from ever being used as official game engines. Unreal & Unity are BYOND, Game Maker & RPG Maker tier. They're designed to create games that look worse than the Genesis and SNES and require 500MB-2GB of space and 4GB of RAM and 4 quad core processors at 3GHz instead of 4MB of space, 64KB of RAM, 7.6 MHz processors. Absolutely pitiful. Not even PC games like JazzJackRabbit 2 and Captain Claw consumed as much as a game produced in Game Maker.
sorry chud, we'll make a game that'll clog up your 15tb hdd so much only our game will be on your hdd and if you use an ssd then tough luck because our latest patch implemented a feature where we save the game every second so you can say bye bye to your ssd's lifetime. also as a new feature that'll be published in the oncoming day zero-minus-one patch we'll make the game render the entire game at once! that way you'll be required to have at least 128gb ram otherwise you won't be able to play our game. we are sorry to those affected.
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literal moron, I'm glad you're dying too, go be dumb as hell in actual hell
tbh I don't see how current games would need anywhere near 16GB if they were properly optimized
but I'm a 1080p gamer, so I don't need to care
Their isn't one game that needs 32 GB of ram frick random steam requirements and use your brain. What games even touch the necessity for 32GB of ram when ram speeds don't mean jack shit?
>ram speeds don't mean jack shit
nah, that's mostly out of date. it's just that system RAM is basically part of the CPU side. It used to be that the CPU side was never ever the bottleneck, back when Intel blew the curve out with Sandy Bridge, or if it was the bottleneck it was completely because the game was only loading one thread. Now lots of games seriously load the CPU and system memory latency can matter.
It's still not money-efficient to buy high end RAM though, but decent over dogshit is usually the right call
When I built my new PC last year and I did go 32gb. My previous build from 2012 had 16gb. Doubt I'll really ever need that much but better safe then sorry.
>We've reached the point where games are starting to ask for 32GB RAM
pretty sure we didn't, on side note you are a moron if you still do not have an SSD
for example Escape from Tarkov pulls over 16 gb if you include paged memory, your memory usage in task bar =/= actual memory usage. The actual performance improvement will vary a lot depending on the technical aspect of game design. My FPS barely changed in tarkov when I switched from 1060 to 3070, but Horizon Zero Dawn literally went from avg 40 fps to avg 100fps+. So there are games that are heavily CPU bound while others are heavily GPU bound and the same goes for memory, there are some games that massively benefit from a faster RAM, like ARMA 3 for example. It's worth noting that just because game is CPU bound it doesn't mean that better RAM will improve it's performance.
one part of the problem is that memory has many different clocks and you want both of the sticks to run on the exactly same clocks for optimal performance
there's more to it but I know jackshit about technicalities, eitherway it's been a known fact for years to always have memories from the same kit. If you are dead set on buying another memory stick you need to make sure it's exactly the same one. At least that was the case pre-ddr4 when I cared to know.
btw Taiphoon Reader is your friend, god speed
I am literally going to swap my DDR4 adata 2400mhz CL15 to G.skill 4000mhz CL18 in an hour or so when I move my lazy ass to postal office and I can run some benchmarks for y'all if you want. I believe I will get at least 10fps more in tarkov. Frick it I'm going, im anxious to see the difference.
Why then you typed in previous post that it's not recommended?
I thought it is, so i was planning to buy same G.Skill Sniper X RAM(still not sure though, only two times i was OOM, in VRChat populated world and in UE4 Editor)
I was talking about literally the same sticks, same manufacturer, same clock speed etc... i read somewhere, and im lazy to find the source, that even the same sticks are not always the same, they may have some minor differences in some details and can cause problems. As i said, i tried to upgrade from 32 to 64 and w10 went crazy with BSODs and other stuff. Earlier i upgraded my workstation and everythink went well. You will never know, but since the BSOD incident, when im building new PC, i will try to max out my ram preferences instead of upgrading later.
>that even the same sticks are not always the same
Makes sense, as sometimes they can change for example Samsung B-dies to other shit.
I doubt they can change anything other than that though, and i doubt problem will preserve in recommended settings(for me it's 3200, as Intel not really benefits from fast ram)
I read it when i googled why w10 is shizoing after ram upgrade. Then i put the other newer 2x16 sticks in other PC and works well.
>Muh ram
Don't care.
Should I switch my 5600x for a 5800x3d when the 7000s come out? I won't change my mobo for at least 3/4 more years.
I have a 3080Ti and a 5950 and everything runs perfectly on 32gb of RAM.
I do a lot of photo and video editing, so I wouldn't be against upping to 64gb somewhere down the line.
I have the same specs but only 3080. 32gb is really the sweet spot atm for games and basic multitasking.
Yeah, anything more I'd probably never notice a thing speed wise