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Kill the Red Cross
hundreds must die
Well, red cross is so a pathetic and corrupt organization so this probably will save more lives
Honestly that's what I was thinking, too. They're functionally useless these days.
How are they useless? Do you have a single reason or source?
>anon makes statement
>tourist literally cannot look anything up for himself and demands source for every single claim
>putting a red plus symbol on health kits is a war crime
actual fricking moron
Just the fact they have a dedicated department ready to throw lawsuits at anyone or anything that uses a red cross is enough to make them dogshit, much less the rampant corruption they got going on
>Just the fact they have a dedicated department ready to throw lawsuits
Having lawyers on retainer very common among corporations.
It's one of the big reasons why justice only exists for the rich: for them it's a monthly expense. For the average joe, it's their entire lifelihood.
Want to know what's also very common for these corporations? Being corrupt pieces of shit. Red Cross literally wastes money by having people dedicated to enforcing said icon instead of actually being useful.
I remember during hurricane Harvey where they were shilling the frick out of donations with ads everywhere and not once did I see those frickers during the recovery period. They also claim 90% of all donations get given to victims but that's just a prima facie lie because almost no actual charities get even close to that.
This isn't even getting into their scandal with Haiti and 9/11. Frickers promised 1.6 houses for haiti and built >6< and they refuse to show anyone how they spent any of their money. Imagine defending this dogshit organization that cares more about their imagine than anything else.
You need money and PR to triumph. The problem is few ever deliver on their promises.
they harass people for free blood then turn around and sell it for high mark up
The first time i ever heard of it in a game was Prison Architect
holy frick
What is wrong with the US?
Karma for all atrocities they did around the world.
So something has an asterisk instead of a plus? What am I missing here?
you cannot use red crosses in games because it violates the Geneva convention
But, what the frick?
It was changed to green in rereleases
They actually changed the Doom medpacks to have green crosses in most of the modern releases. I think a few of the older ones also use a pill symbol instead of a cross, though I might be mixing that up with Tomb Raider.
Found the comparison image.
The Geneva convention prevents you from using the Red Cross symbol for LITERALLY ANYTHING except medics. That includes media, so if you use it to indicate a health pickup you can get in legal trouble.
What about a green cross?
That's fine. Any other color of cross is legal, but if you use a red cross you can get your ass sued off.
I as an individual are subject to the Geneva convention how exactly? Are you moronic? I will literally use this red cross right here to avatar gay on Ganker. Sue me.
No, moron, but if you use it in a vidya you've made the Red Cross Committee will spam you with letters and legal threats.
How is that related to the Geneva convention which you just mentioned? That's a completely different issue but nice moving the goalpost.
>the Red Cross Committee will spam you with letters and legal threats
Which are completely worthless and can be safely ignored.
L-l-letters!? And t-threats?
OH GOD SAVE ME
*ignores mail*
>*ignores mail*
then you get sued and get stuck in a legal battle for years, moron
*ignores summons*
>*BOOM BOOM CRASH*
>GET ON THE GROUND, SCUMBAG
Oh no you have to go to the court once after a year of waiting to hear the judge dismiss it in person help me Black personman I'm literally bankrupt
Over what?
It's not a fricking crime you fat dickhead
>the Red Cross Committee will spam you with letters and legal threats
How do they not have better, more important things to do?
>bloated bureaucracy invents problems to justify itself existing
good joke anon
So you're telling me I can make a shitty game with a red cross medipack, sell it on Steam and get free Red Cross stationery delivered straight to me?
anon this is not a good example of misuse
in some countries it is illegal and you can be prosecuted
>in some countries it is illegal and you can be prosecuted
name 5 cases where this happened
most people stop using it as soon as they are asked
Not what I asked and not what you claimed.
it goes like this anon
1."stop using the symbol please it is an protected symbol under the geneva convention"
2. "stop using the symbo or we take you to court"
3 "were taking you to court for breaching the geneva convention" the court then orders the person to stop using the symbol
most people stop using it after step 1, nearly all the rest stop after 2, a famous case was a pantomime in the uk wear a character in drag wore it and they were threatend with court
Not what I asked and not what you claimed, buddy.
yes it is I said
>in some countries it is illegal and you can be prosecuted
i didnt say will happen 100% of the time, most people stop after being asked and it doesnt need to escalate
Yes and I asked for 5 examples of countries where this was prosecuted because unless it was prosecuted you can not know if it will. I can guarantee you that this would be thrown out before ever seeing a court in all major western economies.
You continued by giving me a description of moronic threats and (one) 1 example where this threat happened without being actually filed to court nor was it prosecuted. I don't care about that much. I can legally threaten you to throw out your stinking poo stained underwear and you can decide to listen to that to avoid eventual legal hassle or you can leave it up to the judicative and gamble if it will be thrown out OR prosecuted.
Now please give me 5 examples of prosecution in court.
the among us devs got threatened and had to remove the red cross from the medbays
it doesnt get prosecuted because devs don't try to fight it, they just change it because it's a stupid hill to die on
So no examples
>it doesnt get prosecuted
Because it's not a crime, it's a civil dispute
>breaching the Geneva convention during peacetime
lol
The red cross is so militant and autistic they'd probably start a war just so they could take you to court over a medpack texture
The geneva convention doesn't apply to private individuals you fricking moron, it's specific to military personnel and states.
It's the exact reason a rifleman can't use JHP while private citizens and police officers can.
Heathens cannot tell me what to do
Isnt geneva convention only applicable to countries? IIRC its just that red cross is trademarked by red cross
It's also illegal in the Geneva convention to put male and female prisoners together. funny what they choose to enforce and ignore.
Tomb Raider, because of
>remove the cross
>games become shittier
Poetic.
>The Geneva convention prevents you from using the Red Cross symbol for LITERALLY ANYTHING except medics. That includes media, so if you use it to indicate a health pickup you can get in legal trouble.
Not only red cross
Red Crescent and Red Crystal too
who do the red crystals worship?
the blood god
The red diamond is cool and would be a great symbolic stand-in for the cross- especially since it would LOOK like the cross at specific angles and resolutions- but of course the israelites had to copyright that, too.
Oh yeah I remember when video game developers and publishers gathered to sign the Geneva convention
>it's illegal to use media to make people draw the association between the Red Cross symbol and unconditional aid
They're doing more harm to themselves and the world than good by going after fictional representations.
Man frick Switzerland the frick they gon do? Frick the Treaty of Versailles too.
>inb4 Toberone'd
>The Geneva convention prevents
Oh yes, I'm sure it does, I'm sure the geneva convention is preventing SO much. There's no civilian casualties in any of the conflicts going on, nope! Thanks to the geneva convention so many orders for indiscriminate killings and inhumane weapons are being blocked out! Indeed, such an effective thing, that geneva convention, so effective in fact that the only thing left to truly go after is GAMERS, the most vile and repulsive war criminals of them all! We need to allocate ALL resources into stopping them from using health and medic symbols because there's literally nothing else in the entire world going on right now that's worse than a red cross on a white cabinet in a movie or video game!
thats why we are gamers. we can see through the fricking bullshit.
No it doesn't. It includes war, and that is it. Treaties are also not law, they are agreements between countries
since when did game devs sign the geneva convention?
>The Geneva convention
as these anons said
within the genva convention there are things called legally protected symbols, it meanst people, vehicles, buildings etc bearing these symbols can not be attacked in war time
the red cross, red diamond, red crescent reprosent unarmed medical/humanitarian perosonel making it a war crime to attack them
misuse of the symbols are also a warcrime and breach the geneva conveniton
video game developer had been misusing the symbol, others do so aswell
the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement reached out to developers and informed them and asked them to change it
video game developers can use it, if they use it in the correct context, such as in arma where they added an unarmed humanitarian faction
>red cross, red diamond, red crescent
Okay, I'm gonna guess the other two symbols are for israelites and Muslims who seethe at the sight of a cross, but why the frick did the israelites pick a blood diamond over a red Star of David?
I assume there's probably an aspect of simplicity required for instant recognition, so basic shapes like crosses, diamonds, and crescents are fine, but the star of david is a little too elaborate
because the star of david will make muslims and christians seethe
no diamond is for everyone, muslims wanted the crescent as the claimed the cross was too christian
the shah of iran (pre revolution) got a special one added for iran
jews asked for a red star of david but all the muslim countries said no
isreal then tried using a red star of david but it backfired as it is not legally protected
a whole bunch of other countries asked for their own and they were all told no
you are now no longer allowed to try and add symbols
if you want a special sybol it is still protected if it inside of a red diamond
so the "red cross" company is run by homosexuals, gotcha bro
its to stop the symbols being diluted, if there are 20 symbols all meaning the same thing, people may not keep track of them all
>"ok pedo bros, today we have assembled not to molest small kids, but to review the amount of symbols allowed on this honorable company... we have the cross, of course, we have the crescent, for our brothers of the book, we shall of course skip the israeli morons, aaaaaaand also laugh at all other world religions, because.... reasons....
>*all pedo priest present start to laugh*
>"ok meeting is over, you can go back to child molestation"
Jews use a red star of david, I shit you not.
It's supposed to be an inverted swiss flag anyway to represent neutrality, but 'Legalism' got in the way of everything. Most medics don't even wear the thing anymore since most countries don't follow a standard ROe.
>you are now no longer allowed to try and add symbols
Probably because Buddhists started riling up.
>why did the israelites pick a money symbol
hmmm
never look up the written symbol for shekels
>In the correct context
So let me get this right
Unarmed humanitarian faction = OK
Kit of medical supplies that is purely used to treat injuries = Not OK???
the reasoning is that if you have a bunch of random red crosses in the form of medpacks laying around a warzone it dilutes the symbolism
Please explain in detail how a first aid kit bearing the red cross "dilutes the symbolism" anymore than this official red cross first aid kit containing the exact same supplies
yeah theyve actually been called out on this and their defense was well its our trade mark
in my opinion this should be considered a breach
Ask the Red Cross if you're so bothered by this, if you actually care about a detailed response.
Johnson & Johnson v. American Red Cross
Flag of the Red Cross
On 9 August 2007, in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, Johnson & Johnson filed suit against the American Red Cross alleging trademark infringement.The suit sought to halt the placement of the Red Cross emblem on all first aid, safety and disaster preparedness products not specifically licensed by Johnson & Johnson. The suit also asked for the destruction of all currently existing non-J&J Red Cross emblem-bearing products of this type, and demanded the American Red Cross pay punitive damages and J&J's legal fees.
J&J released a statement to the public on 8 August 2007, detailing its decision to file suit, claiming prior rights to the emblem. On the same date, the American Red Cross issued a press release of its own, stating some of the reasons behind its decision to license the Red Cross emblem to first aid and disaster preparedness product manufacturers. It issued a further press release two days later, disputing several of J&J's claims and asserting that "the Red Cross has been selling first aid kits commercially in the United States since 1903."
1/2
In a statement, the American Red Cross said it had worked since 2004 with several licensing partners to create first aid, preparedness and related products that bear the Red Cross emblem. The charity said that all money it received from the sale of these products to consumers was reinvested in its humanitarian programs and services. "For a multi-billion dollar drug company to claim that the Red Cross violated a criminal statute that was created to protect the humanitarian mission of the Red Cross—simply so that J&J can make more money—is obscene," said Mark Everson, the chief executive of the charity. Johnson & Johnson responded, stating that the American Red Cross's commercial ventures were outside the scope of historically well-agreed usage, and were in direct violation of federal statutes.
The federal court rejected Johnson & Johnson's position and ruled for the American Red Cross, holding that federal law authorizes the American Red Cross to use the Red Cross emblem in the sale of mission-related items like first aid and disaster preparedness kits and to license other firms to use its name and emblem to sell such products. The court noted in particular that the American Red Cross had been doing so for over a century, and that Johnson & Johnson had once itself sought to be a licensee of the American Red Cross. After the court rejected the substance of Johnson & Johnson's complaint, the parties ultimately settled their differences, and the American Red Cross remains free to use its emblem commercially.
2/2
tl:dr
red cross basically said, that we have always made first aid kits etc with the symbol, we do this for fundraising purposes to support our humanitarian mission
So if the red cross actively produces first aid kits bearing the red cross and licenses their emblem for use on 3rd party first aid kits, why would they not recognize first aid kits in video games as a "correct context"?
because the devs aren't paying for the license
Did the Arma devs pay a license to use it for their humanitarian faction?
the arma DLC that added the humanitarian faction was developed with Red Cross support after the Red Cross was getting bad PR for going after video games
https://web.archive.org/web/20170920041330/https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/19/16330216/international-red-cross-pr-disaster-arma-3-laws-of-war-dlc
that dlc has a fantastic campaign
more accurately the red cross doesn't even want to license it to them
Because the Red Cross has their heads up their asses and think their symbol is sacred and thus shouldn't be in children's toys like videogames.
anon its litterally defined in the geneva convention as a protected symbol
the Geneva Convention only applies in times of war and conflict
because trademarks are one of the israelites' tools to beat the goyim with.
I associate the cross with first aid kits, not with any "Red℠™ Cross™®©℠" organization, and I will continue to.
>why would they not recognize first aid kits in video games as a "correct context"?
Because it's featured in a media product, which isn't an actual medkit.
a first aid box is not a person, vehicle or building used for humanitarian purposes under the genva convention
it also probably relates to the fact that a bunch of first aid box/kit manufactures in the real world were using the symbol incorrectly and had to be taken to court
They still are
It’s a Johnson and Johnson trademark
>red diamond
actual thin skinned homosexual association
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOO, YOU CAN'T USE A RED israeli SYMBOL OR A RED HINDU SYMBOL OR A RED BUDDHIST SYMBOL! THOSE HAVE RELIGIOUS CONNOTATIONS!!!!"
moron
see
see
>thin skinned
dude. how sheltered are you. we live in practically an entirely different world than those who are in war right now
>making it a war crime
ah yeah? what are they going to do about it?
lol
>you can't declare war on us in your game
lol
>warcrime
Needs specific circumstances to happen (and for the geneva convention to apply). There might be a hint somewhere if you look, perhaps in the name
it's only a war crime if you lose btw
>The red hot chili peppers dethroned the red cross
israel?
>respecting the geneva convention
LMOA cucks!
-laughs in imperial japanese-
red cross velly good, sniper save money on scope
Why dont they use a real symbol?
what does the caduceus have to do with anything in this thread?
Its a symbol you can use instead of the red cross, moron
might as well use zeus's thunderbolt then if you're going to pick random things from greek mythology.
I always assumed the reason this was on ambulances instead rod of Asclepius is because it indicated that the vehicles had priority on the road and that you should move out of the way and let them pass.
But I guess it was just always American ignorance.
You are the dumbest Black person.
And you're an autist which is worse
wrong symbol, that is the caduceus, the rod of mercury
it is the symbol of commerce
>the rod of mercury
God I hate Romans
roman website
my bad i meant hermes
same thing
also the egyptian thoth
thats why hes called thoth hermes trismegistus
caduceus is more than just commerce but its not medical
the rod of asclepius only has one snaked, that is the medical symbol
someone here needs to play the forgotten city
>never heard of the forgotten city
>google it
>first result is pic rel
nah, im good. thanks though
>The modern use of the caduceus as a symbol of medicine became established in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th century as a result of well-documented mistakes and misunderstandings of symbology and classical culture.[1][2][3][4][5][6]
Literally "American education".
Still widely used, how about you quit looking uneducated?
>Still widely used
In the US.
>how about you quit looking uneducated?
Oh the ironing!
Symbols can have multiple meanings. Why don’t you use your autism to complain about how the plus symbol means addition? Not like your country is gonna be making any games anyone will be discussing anytime soon, so why don’t you leave while us americans produce your next thread topic you unpreductive homosexual?
can you repeat this in english, esl bro?
>I'm uncultured, moronic and proud of it
And you can't handle the banter, lol
>Symbols can have multiple meanings
No they don't you moron, that's the whole point of symbols.
>Symbols can have multiple meanings
The rod of asclepius and the caduceus are not the same symbol, moron.
One of the few times I actually agree regarding burger education instead of mocking obsessed eurostanis, nice.
These homies don’t know about the boy Asclepius
good bait
>concernedape scrambled to change this sprite while his dad distracted Geneva Convention lawyers in his living room
kek
what if I used pic rel instead?
>inb4 I would get beheaded
see
I'm a red swastika enjoyer myself. makes commies seethe
Only if it's an exploding crate
>he doesn't know
pic related used to be red crosses on release
Is that the shit game that was ruined by its own devs and HR dept?
is that the old castlewars healthpacks? sad
shacktac in arma
aram 2 used to have the cross for medics
it switched to a star in arma 3
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>red medic commits war crimes by simply existing
amazing
but how red does it need to be? when does it stop being red?
now it's not even a cross
I don't mind this change, it's a mildly clever workaround since she's a ninja and the ninja star emblem is roughly in the shape of a cross.
that's way more clever to have the ninja nurse use a red shuriken in the cross position
RC has literally gone after mere CROSS / PLUS SHAPES in recent years.
A Finnish children's hospital's ads for a crowd-funding campaign's had a a photo of kids' old ABC blocks forming an orange cross shape. This too had to be censored.
Some of the Gundam gunplas had to add extra red dots on their red + markings to avoid getting sued.
Payday 2 had WHITE crosses on a red circle for the Medic units, but even that was not enough. They're now wearing the 6-legged star shape.
>WHITE crosses on a red circle
are they going to send C&D's to the nation of Switzerland next?
bro, the red cross symbol is based on the swiss flag, it was created by a swiss man, its headquaters are in switzerland
mountain israelites suing themselves is pretty in line with their MO
>are they going to send C&D's to the nation of Switzerland next?
Would not be surprised.
They've been sending angry notes to some military surplus shops for selling real deal WW2 era Medic bags with "their logo" on it.
Shit gets very skewed in cases like pic related;
FYI, the red cross symbol is a common sign for hospitals and free healthcare / rescue locations here in Yurop.
Of course, but so are real deal Medics as well.
And again, they wore WHITE CROSSES, on a red BG.
But in all honesty, RC is not a "trademark" or a "copyright" thing.
If they were, they could not call themselves a non-profit organization.
Also they would've totally failed to protect "their trademark", similar to how Kevlar and Hoovering became a part of common language already decades ago.
what the frick is hoovering?
zoom zoom much?
I wouldnt mind the American version being Kirbying
Brits are silly though, "hoovering"
>only children don't know slang terms from a different country across an entire ocean
i'm as american as can be (and also a bit of a zoomer myself) and even i know what hoovering means
Hoover is a brand of vacuum cleaners.
In British english hoovering has become a household word for vacuuming.
Same deal with medical bands being called band-aids in American english.
>Payday 2 had WHITE crosses on a red circle for the Medic units
were the units armed? if so thats probably why
Wait so that's why it was so hard for me to find this music video before? I swear a few years ago I tried my hardest to find it without luck, made me think I was crazy and it didn't exist.
>Payday 2 had WHITE crosses on a red circle for the Medic units, but even that was not enough. They're now wearing the 6-legged star shape.
ah so thats why it happened huh.
PLEASE HELP ME DOCTOR DIIIIIIIIIIIICK`
I don't understand.
>What are some other examples of this happening in games?
It happened with Doom and Doom II with the BFG Edition of Doom 3.
This red cross autism just creates a lack of ubiquitous first aid symbols
>make health cross symbol default orange
>include colorpicker in options to make it any color, including red
Would it work? Puts the burden on abiding the GC on the player.
Red Cross is moronic enough that they'd probably send you a range of hexcodes not to allow.
Rimworld, deep rock galactic, prison architect off the top of my head.
I have a proposition.
those are manji though
S = Swastika
Z = manji
>malding over swastikas in 2023...
ngmi femchuddie...
The organisation is called the red swastika society
卍 and 卐 are both "manji" (万字). Former is "left manji" (左万字), latter is "right manji" (右万字) as called by nips.
The swastika is basically the oblique variant displayed on nazi flags.
lol so funneh and edgy xD
Those posts weren't even vaguely anti-semitic.
god made you submissive and breedable
Low T post.
I think Crypt of the Necrodancer did the same thing
In my game I'll do medkits like this because Christ is King
i didn't vote for em
jews and golems did, sorry maybe vote with your wallet next time 😉
I'm being oppressed!
that's the symbol on link's shield
Link is canonically a christian
Billions must repent
Amen.
zased
>we are oh so busy with our peaceful saving of lives that we go arond policing textures in random videogames
yeah frick the red cross. if i ever make a game im putting red on all my medkits. and some annoying shitty enemy that you should focus in a fight will get one too.
you wouldnt legally be allowed if you are in the us, canada, uk, or singapore
some other countries may not allow it either
>make it extra pixel thick on one side and kinda pinkish
nothing personnel
>orange cross
>crimson cross
>burgundy cross
>five red squares with a thin gap between them
>red plus sign on an off white background
>DRK logo (1933-1945)
Stardew Valley changed the color to blue.
>In my game I'll do medkits like this because israelite is King
took you long enough
How are these ok?
Are the crosses deemed fat enough to not be confused with the red cross?
They aren't
Maybe you should tell the red cross
SER PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL AND REPORT BASTARD VALVE TO RED CROSS
>black people from america obsessed with indians
will someone finally explain to me why america is so obsessed with india?
how much rent do I have to pay to live in your head zir
My guess it's because there's a little bit of weathering on them.
That 50% pack looks neat and probably doesn't violate Red Cross copyright
Don't tell the mountain israelites, they will sue you instead
because the red cross can't actually do anything, they can pressure you but if they actually took you to court they would lose.
>they can pressure you but if they actually took you to court they would lose.
Whether or not they would lose is irrelevant. The legal system is fricked. You, as a citizen, do not have the power to fight an organization like the Red Cross. They will elongate the case until you give up or go bankrupt from legal fees.
That is what i meant with pressure, should have been more clear. Shit's fricked.
Yes you do.
>NO I NEED A LAWYER 24/7 ON CALL FOR THE DURATION OF THE ENTIRE PROCEEDINGS WHAT IF THE JUDGE BREAKS INTO MY ROOM UNANOUNCED AT 2AM FOR A SURPRISE TRIAL
Valve is too big for them to bully and Red Cross would actually lose.
>Article 38
>As a compliment to Switzerland, the heraldic emblem of the red cross on a
white ground, formed by reversing the Federal colours, is retained as the emblem and distinctive sign of the Medical Service of armed forces.
Defined as:
>a white, upright, free-standing cross depicted against a red background, whose arms, which are all of equal size, are one-sixth longer than they are wide
Can't wait to put a red cross where every arm is a different size just by a couple of pixels and tell them to frick off
this.
do what OJ's lawyer did and attack the definition of evidence they're using.
"Here is the vector diagram of our cross, four 90 degree right angle between lines, exactly"
> Your "cross" is off by 0.1 degree on each arm.
Get fricked, RC.
Valve has lost a lot of cases when they got sued, for stuff like breaking consumer rights.
The point is that Valve has the scale needed to actually push back. The law is vague enough that it could easily go either way. And if Red Cross goes after Valve in a highly public way and loses, everybody is going to start questioning the legitimacy of their 100 year monopoly over the fricking + sign.
The geneva convention tongues my anus
I mean, have they ever actually sued anyone or do devs just cave the second they're asked? I have a feeling they couldn't force it. Everyone understands the symbol to mean First Aid/Emergency Services. It's become generic, and that's how you lose your trademark.
>or do devs just cave the second they're asked?
what do you think the PR department would do?
I don't think there's anyone who has been sued over this, usually a "friendly" message is enough for people to change it. And why wouldn't you, changing it is completely trivial and fighting their "wish" would make for horrible PR no matter what the ruling would be.
>supporting artistic expression and the right to use a widely understood symbol in a context where literally would be confused asto it's use, over whining of an overreaching NGO spending aid money on lawyersis somehow "horrible PR"
why would you risk getting charged with a fricking war crime, even if you thought you could fight it?
>why would you risk getting charged with a fricking war crime
Can't be charged with war crimes when not actively engaged in military conflict.
still, why risk a legal battle and potential bad PR for yourself for saying frick the red cross when all you have to do to make it all go away is change the color of some pixels?
It's only Red Cross who gets bad PR by displaying profound moronation.
>war crime
keep those boots clean
yeah most peoples trademarks arent protected by the geneva convention
The Geneva Conventions apply to governments, not to private citizens not engaged in wartime activities.
You wouldn't get sued, you would get charged by your government for a crime (provided they were a Geneva Convention signatory).
They're israeli
wouldnt put it past them
remember that time they collected $33 million in donations for the Aussie bushfires then only gave out $3 million in actual aid?
yeah they're fricking scam artists and just use their shit as a front for money laundering and richgay tax evasion, like all charities
>Feb 2022
oh let me guess we had to change something for MUH UKRAINIANS. Holy frick I'm so sick of these people that I'm about to become a fricking Russia supporter.
What a deeply moronic post. RuneScape 2 also made a change back then, changing it to a green cross. No doubt that the recent war put attention on Old RuneScape and they made them change it, but getting this upset over it? Thinking about it, go right ahead, changing sides about a war because of a videogame hat sounds amazingly dumb.
It’s your duty as an indiedev to intentionally include a red cross symbol in your game so you can join the Geneva Convention violators club.
Literally all of them, the red cross is trademarked.
do you think the red cross cares about mods for games though
Looks like MJ was a dirty WAR CRIMINAL on top of being a pedo zombie!
Hell's not cool, but at least they follow the local Geneva convention laws! :^)
The Daily Bugle's gonna have a field day when they learn that Spidey's been infringing on RC's property!!
Stranded on an Ayylmao planet with no help?
Tuff luck, war criminal! That red paint on your medical items makes you a sinner!
I'm positive Geneva convention doesn't apply on alien planets, you can gas the ayys.
Now starting a new series:
>It's OK when Valve does it!
part two!
#3!
Wait a year or two, it will change to green
it's been 20 years. None of Valve's games are yet to be affected.
>he thinks you can just *take* Gaben's money
The ICRC did actually make legal complaints about HL2 specifically in articles, but nothing more than that. Given how much money they waste pursuing this petty shit you start to think they might be fiscally motivated.
Stop arguing with the moron anon, he's clearly english. The mere threat of something has him crying.
I'm not sure if turning it into a fricking crosshair was a good idea here
Yeah, it was idiotic.
The whole red-on-white color scheme is a prefered, hi-vis design for a reason.
The pale green crosses in the nu-HD ports don't work nearly as well.
Hell, dunno why they couldn't at least do BLUE crosses instead, seeing how the HP vials and Soul Sphere are both bright blue. Quake 2 on consoles did the same, and it looks fine.
pic related, 5000 hours in MS paint.
...but nooo... instead we have to make do with THIS shit.
Oh shit! I just realized that Dr. Dick might actually be a criminal scum!
And boy oh boy do the Animaniacs endorse support of war-criminality to children!
>Denton too is a war crime lord
What a shame.
Whew! These surviving members of the human race barely managed to avoid becoming war crimmies by changing their medical symbols in the middle of the futuristic war against killer robots!
Saya Takagi caught a filthy criminal scum! Naked!
>Not even super robots are safe
I don't think this space medic is RC qualified...
And this gun toting maniac definitely is not on the great RC's paylist!
>shotgun and flamethrower enjoyers don't respect the geneva convention
No shit Sherlock.
Delete this!
No!
Help! My copy of SH4 is breaking teh international laws!!
>even in the 1950's science movie reels!!
>"Thank you for saving me! Here, take this war crime (tm)!"
Whaddya say we put some... red crosses into this game?
What would that do?
Almost feels like this is a civil/business issue rather than a legal one, ergo the geneva convention is non applicable, otherwise it'd have government involvement.
Wonder how much money they waste trying to police this.
Anon fricks sake I don't need more fetishes
I'm gonna get a frickin' hardon playing medic in arma.
>Anon fricks sake I don't need more fetishes
Pathetic!
>red and green
i'm getting mixd messages
It's still your fault if my next patient dies from playing one-handed you frick
bueno
Shamefur dispray!
Deus Ex's medkit is actually red on yellow, not white, it's just hard to see because that image has the gamma cranked to 11 for some reason.
>"we now have a red crystal to represent all those fake religions that aren't pedo god on a stick or desert dehidration dreams god!"
moron company...
(yes it is just a company)
The Geneva Convention kneels to Chomusuke.
how is he not sliding down that flat wall?
my proposition
this'll solve all problems
oh, oh god
i have never foreseen such a possible application of my model
i will never be able to see the lance of longinus in the same way
Would a tree of life be too complex of a symbol to use?
The more complicated and filigrane you make your symbol the less visible it would be on an actual battlefield where it would matter when both parties actually give a shit so it's probably a bad idea.
All the more problematic considering a cross is literally the single most easily recognizable symbol.
Well, sure, but it makes certain groups of "people" seethe like no tomorrow even though it's just A FRICKING PLUS so they really need that special treatment.
The obvious solution to this is to simply adjust the proportions of said cross.
Israelis don't use + in mathematics, nor will they sign with an 'X'. The origin of 'israelite' comes from 'israelitel' as the illiterate ones refused to sign with anything but a circle.
Jews are super neurotic about symbols, it's why they won't draw Swastikas correctly or say 'God'.
I knew about the israelitel thing but didn't know about their plus signs, they just cut off half the vertical line, lmao
Ooooh. So israelites are mad because we're calling them circles because they hate shapes.
You know what, suddenly the whole vampires being confused by angles shit from Netflix Castlevania makes a lot more sense
>or say 'God'.
Eating chicken everyday would get tiresome after a while.
>hey guys, what's going to help gather support for our humanitarian organization?
>I know! Lets shit on people's preferred method of entertainment, this will surely better our image and gather support!
Seriously, what's the fricking logic behind this? I will now never support them out of principle.
Anon, you'd be depressed how much NGO money is slushed and wasted. Whatever their stated goal, expect a massive self-aggrandising overhead and pr department.
It's literally one single Fricking Leaf (tm) CEO of the Canadian branch that started this witch hunt of theirs back in 2006.
Literally hungreds of movies, games, comics, cartoons and what nod had portrayed the symbol. Hell, they're a common mark for hospitals and shit in my country.
According to nu-RC, this grandpa-aged hand crafted cabinet surely encourages people to do crime.
>a fricking leaf
like pottery ausgays need to step up their irl shitposting game
Day of the rake can't come soon enough.
Why is it always the canadians?
I don't really care about a vidya medpack getting a green cross instead of a red one.
What I care about is those donation drives those fricking local branches of that Black person organization are doing. They'll annoy the shit out of you by constantly ringing your doorbells and asking for donations. At some point I even considered donating something because I was feeling charitable AND THOSE FRICKING c**tS JUST WANTED ME TO SIGN SOME SORT OF DONATION SUBSCRIPTION TYPE OF THING WHERE I COULDN'T EVEN CHOOSE HOW MUCH I WANTED TO DONATE, IT WAS JUST A FIXED SUM. FRICKING BEGGAR Black folk.
>even the donations are following a subscription model now
Lol
Lmao even
a good chunk of NGO employees are seat warmers who don't actually do anything other than collect a salary, so like a lot of people in such roles they intentionally make work for themselves in order to justify their paycheques
90% of the "jobs" in white collar are like that. Basically welfare for people who are already rich or connected.
I seriously think of the Green Cross over the Red Cross whenever I think of "Health" now lol
I don't. Green = poison.
I like the Star of Life, but I'm used to seeing it on ambulances and stuff anyway. Putting it on medkits is aesthetic but blue is already reserved for mana instead of health.
I think very few games mix mana and modern-day medkits with medical symbols
I think there should be more of them, then.
so this whole thing is just the usual "israelites being israelites"?
Considering that no one actually got sued over this (to my knowledge) it's probably more of an autism thing
yet, people comply to their demands
Yes, most people are cowards and bootlickers. Then you have useful moron spouting bullshit like muh geneva or that taking anything to court instantly takes your bank account to minus billion dollars.
oi, bongs, you got a loicense for that flag?
It predates it by about 1000 years you childish moron.
There's a pretty easy solution.
Yes, stopping veing apussy and using a red cross on a white background
Why do people love the red cross so much to not use their symbol? I remember a disaster tornado happening once every 100 years where people lost their homes and they refused to give the victims any help for a new home. Frick giving these fricks any money.
All they care about is giving Black folk aid (probably just people/sex trafficking).
had some guy argue with me that the reason they changed from the red cross to a green cross is because people might get confused about medical help during a crisis and accidentally go to a place that can’t help.
but the context was the healers in the duel arena in old school runescape.
changing textures in old games due to this stupid bullshit is so fricking soul crushing to me.
>oh no I've been shot, quick let me go to a hospital in a videogame so they can treat it
>get shot
>see someone playing runescape through the window in their house
>"this building must be a hospital!"
the green cross used to mean "weed store"
does it mean something else now?
No, but all the weed stores are legal or de-facto legal. Because of this all the "medical" marijuana places closed down and now it's yuppies selling it out of new office-looking storefronts downtown and not shacks in the middle of nowhere.
I like Doom Eternal's approach.
it's a meh replacement but good enough.
But again, many games get off with something WAY closer to the OG style (pic related, from Apex), and never get called out.
Plus the biggest problem here really is the fact that RC's been turning into money-eating yakuza. Bullying smaller game devs is just one way they're trying to get more control.
I wonder if you could just fill in the outsides there. Like make it an hourglass tilted 45 degrees and if they'd kvetch that it's too close to the red diamond?
this is going to bite them in the ass with the tf2 effect. people hear phony fricking accents for 6000 hours and think it's a real accent.
autistic neets born in 2020 will be asking why the red cross isn't green or some shit like that in a couple years.
I understand why - in theory - you might want to differentiate it.
It's so fricking dumb. It's like the White House emailing publishers demanding not to show the whitehouse in anything, lest the public become confused and think the white house was actually eaten by godzilla. If anything the Red Cross would want free marketing. red cross = good healing always. The fricking overreach of goddamned doctors trying to censor every work ever made because their symbol is recognizable of all fricking things is insane.
Does the Red Cross only go after Americans? What if your in another country and use the symbol in a game, will they still sue you?
>Does the Red Cross only go after Americans?
No. Like said a few times, at least here in Finland they are pretty active. They sabotaged the kids' hospital campaign AND a fricking music video. Pic related.
I also know that they got butthurt about some British stage play with a WW1 era nurse having a red cross on her head piece.
How the frick do they even have that much power? Just have a country's leader say no to their bullshit.
Sheeps' fear of the authority + fear of going to court and losing it all.
Again, many trustworthy sources already cite that RC should not have this kind of power. But if the Malboro could sue the entire country of Canada for passing anti-smokes laws, and WIN, then just imagine what a world-wide "charity" group like the RC, that has its paws on everything military and conflict related, could do.
>here in Europe, or at least many places here, green is more associated with medicine and apothecarie
Same here in the Nordic areas.
I could also swear that the first aid stations all used red crosses instead of green just a decade or so ago.
Civil suits are what take up most of a country's court system and legal 'damages' are always horrendously excessive for no clear reason.
One of the latest victims of the Green-bleaching I know of...
It's weird, because here in Europe, or at least many places here, green is more associated with medicine and apothecaries, there's even a big chain in, I think, either Germany or France that specifically uses a green cross like that.
So I just end up thinking medicine, and not first aid, or treatment of actual wounds.
>red cross is universally understood as the symbol for medical aid/medicine
>is used all over the world in all forms of media because of this
>red cross organization:NOOOO YOU CANT USE IT YOU WILL CONFUSE PEOPLE CHANGE IT CHANGE IT REEEE
genuinly impressive levels of moronation
Their logo their rules
What if the cross is pink or 'wine' do they get pushy too?
I always thought the cross being banned shit was because "christians bad"
Why hasn't the United States government raided the Red Cross and arrested everyone inside for anti-video game activity? Do they just not care about the rights of us Gamers?
>TF2 has a German who flouts the Geneva convention
Based Valve.