What are the best DND games on PC for someone who's suddenly getting into DND through the original pen and paper/tabletop stuff?
Obviously I know people all think BG3 was good but what about it's predecessors? How about things like Neverwinter Nights or Icewind Dale? Or others?
 It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14 |
 CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14 |
there is only one answer on Ganker
Of course.
journal updato san sama~!
Pathfinder Kingmaker or WoTR
>b-b-b-but its Pathfinder not D&D
Same shit
>Same shit
as 3.5, yes. pretty dissimilar to 1e or 2e though.
Aren't these basically just all crpgs?
I fricking love the Icewind Dale games. They are dungeon crawlers, you will fight a lot, but they are beautiful, have a great soundtrack and really tickle that character building autism. To me, they are a far better representation of the actual ttrpg games than all these games where you create one self-insert mary sue MC while having to deal with developer OCs and their equally suish problems (and then sex).
That sounds pretty good. What kind of gameplay and combat is it?
Real-time with pause, like so many other isometric games from that era.
Pools of Radiance and Eye of the Beholder 1 & 2.
>Pools of Radiance
Hope you mean the original and not the other one that we don't talk about.
Grimrock
Nuff said
Are the Shadowrun games any good?
What's a good one for newcomers? I have already accepted I'm not going to do any new year resolution so might as well have fun.
Neverwinter Nights. The base campaign isn't great but you can skip to the dlcs which are pretty great for a first timer.
Planescape Torment is really great too but I don't think its the best newcomer game, though nothing is really stopping you from playing it.
Cheers
Any good games with turn based combat? I've played the Larian games (divinity os1 and 2, bg3) but I wanna play an actually good game for once
Temple of Elemental Evil or Knights of the Chalice (the original, I didn't really like KotC2 as much). Also I think one of the Pathfinder games has a turn-based mode.
FWIW I found Planescape Torment to be really quite dreary and text-heavy. I know that's the point but it wasn't my jam.
Imagine if they made a whole game out of the sewer section in BG1. That's what it feels like.
All the popular ones are pretty good. Of course it depends what you're looking for.
Planescape: Torment is by far the best written game. Its combat is kinda crappy though. You're only really playing it for the writing and characters.
Baldur's Gate 1 is relatively janky by modern standards. There's a lot of random unfair difficulty spikes and you are more or less expected to cheese the game. The combat isn't very good; your party is low level and doesn't really have much option to do anything until near the end of the game.
Baldur's Gate 2 is much, much better. Has some great voicework, interesting characters and a better plot and writing than BG3 in general.
Icewind Dale is almost entirely combat and dungeoning-focused. The plot and characters are paperthin and not the attraction. It's just about doing encounters.
Icewind Dale 2 has much more to it, although it keeps the focus on encounters rather than written material.
Neverwinter Nights's original campaign was pretty crummy. But the system was pretty good and there was tons of user-created campaigns to play which are much better. The expansion campaigns to Neverwinter Nights were much better though, they're actually worth playing through.
Dark Alliance is an action game rather than a RPG, and is more like a Diablo game that happens to be set in Baldur's Gate. It and the sequel are fine, but not really anything to do with anything.
The two Pathfinder games are Pathfinder, which is basically D&D except it's based on 3rd edition rules and not owned by Wizards of the Coast. Both games are good, relatively new and worth playing although they aren't strictly D&D.
Then there's some other shit like Temple of Elemental Evil which noone ever talks about for good reason. I suppose you might consider playing Eye of the Beholder too if you want a much older game.
BG1 then BG2.
This is as mainstream and accessible as you can get with DND whilst also being relatively well-written
Does Gloomhaven count?
>people all think BG3 was good
for what it's worth, i think it's trash
best D&D game hands down is ToEE, but be sure to install Temple Plus as well as Circle of Eight if you're going to play it
I always keep hearing things about Divinity Original Sin 2. Do you have needed to play the first one?
No. The lore is all brain poison anyway. It's a good game because the combat is fun, not because anything that happens makes any sense.
I remember back when I was younger I didn't have the patience for dialog or exploring or being in towns or anything that wasn't fighting and so I remembered I tried games like baldurs gate but gave up so fast and instead went to extremely combat heavy games like Diablo, Nox, BGDA etc instead but now I'm much much older (30+ grandpa at this point) and I want to go back and try some of these games that I've completely passed up before and view it from my new perspective now.
I suppose going back to BGII would be a good place to start but some of the other titles here are quite intriguing too.
>BGII
Excellent choice!
Here:
https://freegogpcgames.com/160/baldurs-gate-2-complete/
NWN1 is fine as long as you ignore the first campaign. Don't expect DnD video games to get to the same level as a real experience though. Tabletop RPG and DnD in particular only works so well because you have a living thinking human course correcting things on the go and making sure you're having fun at all times even if they have to cheat or change rules to do that. If you have a tabletop group cherish it as much as you can. Unless you have a shitty DM. Video games will always be better than a shitty DM.
This is a very good point
are there any tabletop groups on Ganker or Ganker a newcomer can join?
Try your luck on /tg/ or /qst/. Hope you find something.
Its funny in all my years on Ganker I've literally never been to those boards. This should be interesting. I'll keep an open mind
It took me a few tries to get into BG1, but it clicked once I got through the initial couple of levels, gathered a full party and installed the npc Project mod that adds more dialogue for companions and makes them less one-dimensional.
The writing isn't deep, but it's fun in the "DnD adventure" way, with lots of wacky random events and characters that you meet around the world.
Started BG2 the other day, it feels like a much more serious and complex game right from the start, and having the knowledge of BG1, its events, places and characters adds a lot.
You can even import your character, and even though it doesn't affect the story, you get to start with a higher level and a bunch of the best items you have in your BG1 inventory.
Of them, NWN is probably the most unique
Most of the other d&d games are top-down party-oriented
NWN has a companion or two you can get, but it's mostly focused on your one character
It also has a thriving multiplayer scene where there are big servers that are always up- it's more like a miniature MMO where DMs are dropping in content for hundreds of players on the fly
Lots of good praise for Neverwinter Nights here. Going to add this to the list to try as well.