RTW is very unexceptional. Campaign mechanics are threadbare and, despite warscape being worse, the RTW engine really strategy potential during battles. Pike walls are unbreakable no matter the terrain, Romans effectively cannot be flanked, horse archers are the end game, and unit balance overall is a joke.
That’s not cleopatra. That’s a whitewashed version of her. Pic related is the most historically accurate depiction according to jada plinket smiths Netflix documentary “Queen of Egypt”.
She was a redhead Greek lol. She descended from Seleucids. Alexander's generals who were left back in order to govern the lands he conquered.
>She descended from Seleucids
no, the seleucids were another diadochi successor dynasty to alexander, located around mesopotamia and most of persia eastward, founded by seleucos.
she was a descendent of ptolemaios soter, who was both of greek and macedonian ancestry.
and the absurdity of her being sub saharan african to any degree at all is extrapolated from the fact that her dynasty practiced incest between brother and sister for generations, the documentation of which was spotlessly passed down, except for her mother iirc. so at the very best she was half black, but that would only be possible if they for some fricking reason stopped banging their siblings, chose a foreign woman as consort to royalty, a-fricking once, and then immediately went back to marry sister to brother again.
so, all in all, the entire notion is unlikely to the point of deniability.
Well I'm a nostalgiagay for the original Rome: Total War, but I'll give a real reason to play it.
The battles control the same as 2, just with worse graphics. But you get to be immersed by the general speeches that are missing in the sequels.
If I really want a Rome fix though I'd just watch another caesar documentary tho tbh
I refuse to believe that Romans were bloodthirsty animals that subjected innocent people to fight to the death on the regular for no reason other than entertainment.
If they were that feral and unhinged they wouldn't have been able to become an international empire the likes of which is still emulated today.
Most of the time, gladiators survived the fights, unless it was on rare special occasions when they fought to the death. At the beginning of this tradition it was like this
>Romans were bloodthirsty animals that subjected innocent people to fight to the death on the regular for no reason other than entertainment
Modern people don't understand, that secular academic archaeology and organized sport are 19th century creations at best, and that shit comes from way before 19th century.
Consider this thought experiment:
Civilization was obliterated by solar flare/nuclear war/whatever, technology and information lost, surviving humans regress to primitive agrarian living to keep going. By the time they get their shit together, they're back at Dark ages intellectual level. Then, barbarians with clubs and 300 words vocabulary start exploring the ruins of destroyed world, and find out colossal mega-structures, purpose of which they can't understand. Among those structures are stadiums. What would a club-wielding barbarian think about a stadium? They don't know what the sport is. They would obviously figure out that on those stadiums ancient fighters clubbed each others to death with baseball bats, and after that played football with severed heads of losing team, or something like that. What else would someone who doesn't understand what "sport" is would think? Maybe later they would even raise shrines to Superman and Batman, great and virtuous ancient supernatural beings told about in only books from the old world they were able to read, in honor of innocently murdered footie players and WWE fighters.
it was basically ancient MMA
they had no internet or tv back then so they had to get their jollies somehow, and what is more entertaining then watching some foreign slaves fight and possibly die in an exciting and gruesome manner
Most of the time, gladiators survived the fights, unless it was on rare special occasions when they fought to the death. At the beginning of this tradition it was like this
i remember reading the chances a 'ladiator would die in combat were about 1 in 11, which is still pretty high
Gladiators were as valuable as professional athletes today. Many of them had huge fan base. Imagine modern MMA having athletes fight to death, that's absurd. There were extensive safety regulations just like in today's martial arts. Also most of gladiator stuff seems to be more of a WWE-like theatrical show and not actual serious combat. >entertaining then watching... die in an exciting and gruesome manner
Do you seriously think that an average civilized city-living normalgay with whom colossal stadium is supposed to be filled would enjoy looking at an actual real death, gore, spilled guts, with all the related smells, etc, as an entertainment to unwind after a hard day of work? What makes you think that average normalgay of antiquity was fundamentally different?
>Do you seriously think that an average civilized city-living normalgay with whom colossal stadium is supposed to be filled would enjoy looking at an actual real death, gore, spilled guts, with all the related smells, etc, as an entertainment to unwind after a hard day of work?
you sound sheltered
yes? the ancient world had a different sensibility towards violence than we do in today's hypersterilized modern world...
you're trying to argue that gladiator fights were clean and bloodless or something? no way, romans loved violence and spectacle. the gladiators ate a carb heavy diet to fatten up so they could tank flesh wounds better (ie more entertaining gore for the audience with less risk to the fighter). the chariot races were just as violent if not more than the arena fights, and people would pay extra to get the primo seats in the middle of the circus at the turns where you could watch the crashes close up
do you somehow think violence is not entertaining? the vidya and film industries and their massive popularity would indicate otherwise
>the ancient world had a different sensibility towards violence than we do in today's
idk when you mentioned the chariot races I just think of nascar and how everyone's just watching for the crashes
Anon they used to do executions on lunch break. People would shout from the stands and the torturers would actually perform the audience suggestions. Once in the arena they killed 10 THOUSAND animals in a single day. Big name gladiators would be spared (sometimes) but it was more often than not a massively gory affair.
No way… the militaristic empire that expanded its reach to millions of kilometres through war and conquest with an economy dependent on slavery and a justice system that had nailing a guy onto a stick and leaving him there until he fricking died be an acceptable punishment couldn’t have been (gulp)… violent….
no, he's completely correct
if you don't get that yes, romans were violent enough to clap at people dying and think it must be impossible because they were successful, you're very sheltered and poorly read
they got le international empire by being violent and looking for fights constantly
They found the remains of a poster that advertised that a condemned woman was going to be raped to death by a bull. ADVERTISED. Because they knew that would attract a crowd.
Romans were supposedly against ritual executions yet they had no issue with strangling slaves captured on conquests during their triumphs. Colosseum battles were for the plebs anyway, it was poor people entertainment
It probably won't be real again, because people who created this were eaten, and their replacement are moronic barbarians who turned out to be good enough with natural sciences and engineering, but after all those centuries are still unable to reach level of self-knowledge and general humanitarian culture that original European civilization had. Even when looking at it, they're looking at the wrong things.
>when your empire can make it to the Caspian Sea, halfway down the Persian Gulf, all of Greece, Morocco, half of the UK but you could only get half of Bavaria.
Rome was mid
rome total war
not the remaster
Pic related
RTW is very unexceptional. Campaign mechanics are threadbare and, despite warscape being worse, the RTW engine really strategy potential during battles. Pike walls are unbreakable no matter the terrain, Romans effectively cannot be flanked, horse archers are the end game, and unit balance overall is a joke.
yes, there is no excuse for the remaster being 60gbs when the original is 6gb
for me, it's the dreadful UI. A team of 72 people worked on this schlock and that's excluding the VAs.
romans were the real barbarians
Et quid ita?
You WILL kill Cleopatra just because black woman told you to
That’s not cleopatra. That’s a whitewashed version of her. Pic related is the most historically accurate depiction according to jada plinket smiths Netflix documentary “Queen of Egypt”.
She was a redhead Greek lol. She descended from Seleucids. Alexander's generals who were left back in order to govern the lands he conquered.
very weak bait.
>She descended from Seleucids
no, the seleucids were another diadochi successor dynasty to alexander, located around mesopotamia and most of persia eastward, founded by seleucos.
she was a descendent of ptolemaios soter, who was both of greek and macedonian ancestry.
and the absurdity of her being sub saharan african to any degree at all is extrapolated from the fact that her dynasty practiced incest between brother and sister for generations, the documentation of which was spotlessly passed down, except for her mother iirc. so at the very best she was half black, but that would only be possible if they for some fricking reason stopped banging their siblings, chose a foreign woman as consort to royalty, a-fricking once, and then immediately went back to marry sister to brother again.
so, all in all, the entire notion is unlikely to the point of deniability.
I will molest her instead.
i romanced her, shame there's no ending to unite the 2 empires
>Auto
Tag yourself I'm Murmillo
scissorchad here
Only good one is AC: Odyssey
>retiarius
gaylord gladiator
>t. secutor
gladiatrix sexo
Domina
Age of Decadence is great, never played it but is great
Retiarius CHADS
RISE UP
for me it's andabata
Unironically Domina if you still have a copy, or you can just pirate one.
>TRIARII
The most historically accurate game around of course: The History Channel: Great Battles of Rome
Well I'm a nostalgiagay for the original Rome: Total War, but I'll give a real reason to play it.
The battles control the same as 2, just with worse graphics. But you get to be immersed by the general speeches that are missing in the sequels.
If I really want a Rome fix though I'd just watch another caesar documentary tho tbh
I refuse to believe that Romans were bloodthirsty animals that subjected innocent people to fight to the death on the regular for no reason other than entertainment.
If they were that feral and unhinged they wouldn't have been able to become an international empire the likes of which is still emulated today.
Most of the time, gladiators survived the fights, unless it was on rare special occasions when they fought to the death. At the beginning of this tradition it was like this
BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THE RUSSEL CROWE MOVIE WAS!!
but were you not entertained?
>Romans were bloodthirsty animals that subjected innocent people to fight to the death on the regular for no reason other than entertainment
Modern people don't understand, that secular academic archaeology and organized sport are 19th century creations at best, and that shit comes from way before 19th century.
Consider this thought experiment:
Civilization was obliterated by solar flare/nuclear war/whatever, technology and information lost, surviving humans regress to primitive agrarian living to keep going. By the time they get their shit together, they're back at Dark ages intellectual level. Then, barbarians with clubs and 300 words vocabulary start exploring the ruins of destroyed world, and find out colossal mega-structures, purpose of which they can't understand. Among those structures are stadiums. What would a club-wielding barbarian think about a stadium? They don't know what the sport is. They would obviously figure out that on those stadiums ancient fighters clubbed each others to death with baseball bats, and after that played football with severed heads of losing team, or something like that. What else would someone who doesn't understand what "sport" is would think? Maybe later they would even raise shrines to Superman and Batman, great and virtuous ancient supernatural beings told about in only books from the old world they were able to read, in honor of innocently murdered footie players and WWE fighters.
Here's your Roman blood sports bro.
it was basically ancient MMA
they had no internet or tv back then so they had to get their jollies somehow, and what is more entertaining then watching some foreign slaves fight and possibly die in an exciting and gruesome manner
i remember reading the chances a 'ladiator would die in combat were about 1 in 11, which is still pretty high
Gladiators were as valuable as professional athletes today. Many of them had huge fan base. Imagine modern MMA having athletes fight to death, that's absurd. There were extensive safety regulations just like in today's martial arts. Also most of gladiator stuff seems to be more of a WWE-like theatrical show and not actual serious combat.
>entertaining then watching... die in an exciting and gruesome manner
Do you seriously think that an average civilized city-living normalgay with whom colossal stadium is supposed to be filled would enjoy looking at an actual real death, gore, spilled guts, with all the related smells, etc, as an entertainment to unwind after a hard day of work? What makes you think that average normalgay of antiquity was fundamentally different?
>Do you seriously think that an average civilized city-living normalgay with whom colossal stadium is supposed to be filled would enjoy looking at an actual real death, gore, spilled guts, with all the related smells, etc, as an entertainment to unwind after a hard day of work?
you sound sheltered
yes? the ancient world had a different sensibility towards violence than we do in today's hypersterilized modern world...
you're trying to argue that gladiator fights were clean and bloodless or something? no way, romans loved violence and spectacle. the gladiators ate a carb heavy diet to fatten up so they could tank flesh wounds better (ie more entertaining gore for the audience with less risk to the fighter). the chariot races were just as violent if not more than the arena fights, and people would pay extra to get the primo seats in the middle of the circus at the turns where you could watch the crashes close up
do you somehow think violence is not entertaining? the vidya and film industries and their massive popularity would indicate otherwise
>the ancient world had a different sensibility towards violence than we do in today's
idk when you mentioned the chariot races I just think of nascar and how everyone's just watching for the crashes
Anon they used to do executions on lunch break. People would shout from the stands and the torturers would actually perform the audience suggestions. Once in the arena they killed 10 THOUSAND animals in a single day. Big name gladiators would be spared (sometimes) but it was more often than not a massively gory affair.
Well they were still fights so a certain threshold of risk is always there, but certainly not bloodbaths
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supplicia_canum#Ancient_sources
They didn't have /gif/ or LiveLeak back then. Needed something.
No way… the militaristic empire that expanded its reach to millions of kilometres through war and conquest with an economy dependent on slavery and a justice system that had nailing a guy onto a stick and leaving him there until he fricking died be an acceptable punishment couldn’t have been (gulp)… violent….
>strawmanning this hard
Enjoy the (You), friend.
no, he's completely correct
if you don't get that yes, romans were violent enough to clap at people dying and think it must be impossible because they were successful, you're very sheltered and poorly read
they got le international empire by being violent and looking for fights constantly
They found the remains of a poster that advertised that a condemned woman was going to be raped to death by a bull. ADVERTISED. Because they knew that would attract a crowd.
Romans were supposedly against ritual executions yet they had no issue with strangling slaves captured on conquests during their triumphs. Colosseum battles were for the plebs anyway, it was poor people entertainment
gladiator fights are fake and gay
>it was all real
bros
It probably won't be real again, because people who created this were eaten, and their replacement are moronic barbarians who turned out to be good enough with natural sciences and engineering, but after all those centuries are still unable to reach level of self-knowledge and general humanitarian culture that original European civilization had. Even when looking at it, they're looking at the wrong things.
>when your empire can make it to the Caspian Sea, halfway down the Persian Gulf, all of Greece, Morocco, half of the UK but you could only get half of Bavaria.
Rome was mid
Eternal Darkness. Sort of. Technically. For a short while.
king arthur:the truth behind the legend. The first missions where you have to protect the bishop were very fun
For Me It's Gallus
Did they not have blunt weapons in that era?
I think the "SCISSOR" one is my favourite. He has the most complete armor. "VELES" has a nice hat.
Not Ancient Rome, but fantasy post-Roman collapse.
>LaQuearius
>black
Kek are u sure this isn't modern day america?
I really wish there was some sort of historic evidence of their win rates.
Net bros, where we @
Vagrus
Fantasy not-rome tho