What are your HONEST thoughts on NuDoom?

What are your HONEST thoughts on NuDoom?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    ZOOM

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greatest what if in gaming, such potential ruined by its sequel

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      whats wrong with eternal?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        all the weapon swapping

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          weapon swapping is fine if you do it for fun, if it's mandatory, then it ruins it

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            this. the problem is when the game is balanced around that entire gimmick. it was cooler as some unintended high level tech developed by players and not forced on the player. by making it 'mandatory' you're providing a very specific and, more importantly, *singular* experience, which is fine so long as it isn't the entirety of the experience. there was no variance in the type of gameplay, it was very much a 'do it our way or you won't get far' mentality. anons here will say 'get gud' to flex their little egos as if Eternal is considered some high level fps, but the reality is they don't view it from a gameplay perspective and how to properly balance a game. Hugo and Marty were just huffin their own shit and clearly lost sight of this as well.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Shut up b***h

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                did i hurt your wittle ego?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The story and the dlc

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        its a bloated mess

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I could just imagine romero or carmack programming in "the monkey bars" mechanic and thinking "What the frick am I doing" and throwing it out completely

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some people don't understand you have to wait until the guy's eyes turn green before you shoot.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        People who are bad at vidya have a tendency to hate eternal.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's the Great Filter

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ironically the story, clearly in doom 2016 you’re meant to be the man who’s betrayed by the demons and who’s son is turned into the icon of sin. It explains the vile hatred you have for them. I liked the ambiguity of the world. The role of heaven and how instead of sending an army angels they just empowered one man do the job. It wasn’t in your face and was deep but simple in the best way.

      Then in the sequel it’s far to marvel esc. The writing is cringey, I dislike the depiction of heaven and making doomguy the same dude from the originals I think was a bad choice. Clearly they went with “oh look how cool everything is connected.” But I think it just came out cringey. and, the dlc tried to do too many “Gotcha” moments that weren’t built up and came off as lazy. “Oh the devil is actually god” it wasn’t needed. This game is literally about hell trying to take over I don’t need heaven and god to be the bad guys as well.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ruined
      moron
      Eternal literally developed every weak aspect of 2016
      Enemies no longer are punching bags
      Drastically ramps up enemy variety
      Weakpoints
      All mods and weapons are effective throughout the entire game
      Visual level variety, bo longer tou have grey and red corridors only
      No useless runes, suit upgrades and shit
      Equipment is actually usefull
      Shoulder cannon doesn't interrupt shooting, i.e. you can shoot and throw grenades at the same time
      Dash and hook for mobility
      Shitty "secret missions" for rune level up are replaced with tough arenas like ToV from ninja gaiden

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doom 2016 nailed the atmosphere, but there were too many collectibles. I play Doom to kill monsters, not for a collectathon.

    Doom Eternal decided to double down on the collectathon and Marvelize itself. Just felt worse than 2016 in every aspect.

    If the devs have any sense at all (they don't), the next Doom will be a focused experience that specializes in excellent combat and exploration, without the need to take yourself out of the action and check your minimap every 30 seconds to see if you missed a collectable (it won't)

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      you can just skip the collectibles you know

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        you could also just skip the shitty game

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          you can do whatever you want

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >lol do what you like
            >BUT PLEASE DONT NEGATIVELY REVIEW SOMETHING I LIKE OR TELL ANYONE YOU DIDNT LIKE IT

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              i just dont understand why you would care about some collectable shit in a game where it doesnt affect the gameplay at all. its either that you will never have a relationship with a woman or that you will never be one

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >lol why do you even care
                frick you, get a better defense

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                well why do you care?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                He’s in the thread to talk about it, moron. So are you.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                because I was asked what I think....being ambivalent of everything you dont like isnt intelligent or cool and serves to ruin everything. this
                >lol I dont even care about it
                bullshit is what allowed eternals DLC to be a full on marvel movie, its the same thing that allowed Wolfenstein youngblood to come out, because every criticism was met with some queers "lol just ignore it who cares" until the devs quadruple down and make an inarguably bad product.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Then you don't buy it. I hear 0 arguments from you aside from b***hing like a big baby. Youngblood got released. Cool, it's not for you, don't play it. The main game is there and you, presumably, like that unless you're an autist that's complaining about a series you hate from the start.

                Doom's DLC has Marvel dialogue? Don't spend money on it. The main game is still there.
                You're getting angry other people are getting things they like and you're not getting it twice over them. Grow up and turn 20 already.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >THEN JUST DONT BUY IT
                youre frickin gay dude how does one know if its bad before theyve bought and played it, especially if by your logic we all just wait patiently for your homosexual glowing review that ignores every negative element of the game

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                to be fair, your biggest diss at the game was complaining about a side aspect that is completely optional

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                nta, eternals biggest problems are its gay cooldowns, low ammo counts, gay story, ugly boring arenas, bad music, and world traversal. The secrets are just the shit icing on the poop cake

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                dont agree but maybe he shouldve said that instead instead of sperging out over optional content

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, I think youre the one mistaken, dont run defense for a game when you have nothing to add to the conversation

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >directly tied to weapon upgrade points
                >doesn't affect gameplay
                moron

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >just skip it
        the laziest defense

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have a counter argument to it?
          You must also get very mad and shit and piss your pants that every game comes with a colorblind mode nowadays too.
          I'm glad I'm not you and can still enjoy things

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            seeing as how most of your upgrades come from collectibles and the game HAHA WOOPS your shotgun to a max of 1 and a half shells, id say yeah, its probably not the essiest thing to ignore

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Im playing 2016 for the first time and the absolute constant collectables are genuinely awful. the game becomes far better when i ignore that shit

      you can just skip the collectibles you know

      the problem is designing the levels around a type of exploration that is extremely quantity-over-quality while removing the actually interesting shit to find

      that aside, 2016 is okay but it could be so much better
      >a lot of things feel extremely weightless
      >enemies look weightless as frick, theres often no hit feedback, and you combine this with the fact they struggle landing hits at you but deal 9999 damage even on the middle difficulty (hardest at the beginning)
      >constantly stopping for that glory kill cutscene
      >absolutely shit tier soundtrack

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        why do the nudoom soundtracks get so much shit? they are extremely kino

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I guess im old but drum and bass doesnt impress me.
          >very light use of an old doom song motif
          >WAHHH CHUCHUCHU WAHHH CHUCHUCHU GURRRRRRRRRR
          Id rather it just be wailing guitars and psychotic drums

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            why do the nudoom soundtracks get so much shit? they are extremely kino

            its extremely lazy and cheap shit with no real emotion or atmosphere, 90% of the time
            the concept of someone enjoying the ost makes me primarily think of dumb tasteless teenagers going "omg so metal and badass and heavy!!"
            So much of it sounds completely fricking random and shitposty and it hardly ever creates any tension

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's mostly boomers who think Pantera is peak metal who don't like it

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    feels and plays nothing like doom

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      because you can jump?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The jumping is fine its the level design and the combat arenas and the cutscenes glory kills and the getting ammo and health from enemies, doom was never like that, Im not saying the game is bad, but it is not doom and should have had another name.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          so Doom 3 should’ve also had a different name? just shut up

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            For sure yes.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you zoombies ever even played the OG DOOM?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        you didn't need to jump

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        because I can jump, and I dont use the minimap because there's no level design outside of corridors and mandatory arenas, and I can skip pickups by just killing enemies, and it gives me heckin tutorials about how to use my weapons, and it gives me fan-fiction-tier lore along the way... Yeah, this is nothing like Doom.
        >inb4 what about Doom 3?
        No one defends Doom 3

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 was a beta test for Eternal.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Glory kills is stupid. besides that, its good

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Absolute shit. Pic very related.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unless you play in "sooper dooper hardcore pro hell on earth nightmare on elm street" difficulty, only hard part of OG Doom are the first 2 levels of Thy Flesh Consumed.
      Boomers need to stop coping.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    16(?) was fine
    eternal leaned into the worst parts of 16 and sucks.
    seems like the new game dev paradigm
    >make game thats decent with some trappings of really shitty shit but its minimal so who cares
    >make sequel that reduces all the good and maximizes the shit
    >dlc that takes it so far that even goysloppers who enjoy the sequel have had enough
    examples include: wolfenstein, doom, god of war, spiderman, borderlands 2 onward, etc

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also Dishonored and Bioshock

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bioshock 2 is better than 1 however.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    OG Doom is a fusion between Doom 3 and Doom 2016

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >og doom
    >can be beaten entirely with the shotgun
    >people complaining about balancing: 0
    >zoom eternal
    >WEAPON SWAP AND USE YOUR COOLDOWNS
    >ITS IMPORTANT FOR BALANCING!!!!!
    single player games dont need autistic esports balancing.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >og doom
      >can be beaten entirely with the shotgun
      that literally means it's an easy as frick game. DUDE JUST SPAM SHOTGUN is not difficult at all.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just because you can beat a game using only a certain weapon type doesn't mean it's easy to do so. One of the harder to get achievements for RE4 remake is beating the game with your pistol only. Doesn't make the game easy just because it's possible.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe on easy

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doom 2016
      >balancing
      homie what? the og dooms are far better balanced than 2016 because they have some semblance of balance
      >do you want micro missiles or a scope?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >single player games dont need autistic esports balancing.
      They actually sort of do, but 2016 is still better than Eternal even though the weapon balance is technically worse.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like someone didn't play og doom on uv
      >moron is afraid of a simple weapon switch to deal more damage
      >esports
      Kys

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    when I played it on release I enjoyed it and got all achievements. tried to replay it a year ago and was bored out of my mind, dropped it went back to playing quake maps. eternal is better i think, but i'll be honest and just admit that it was too exhausting for me.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eternal plays like a fake game youd see on CSI during the gamer episode.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    what about Doom 64?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its great, the real 3.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eternal was good

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      its good but doesnt touch doom1 or 2. people sure like to shit on romero for having too big a head, but you can absolutely tell and feel when Romero didnt make the levels for a game.
      >hurrdurr ID didnt need romero
      >but quake 2 fricking sucks because the levels suck
      hmmm really makes you think!

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        gameplay in q2 also fricking sucks. recent remaster made it playable for me, but it's still fricking garbage.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love metal, and I hate nuDoom's soundtrack.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      not all the og Doom's soundtrack was based on metal Black persony

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I get shit on every single thread for saying this, they should have gotten Slayer or some thrash metal band to work on it. EDM doesnt fit and Mick Gordon is beyond overrated, look at his version of E1M1. It frickin sucks.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >EDM doesn't fit in
        shut the frick up homosexual

        not all the og Doom's soundtrack was based on metal Black persony

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=vGfDrnmnjIg

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          cool mortal kombat for the 32x music

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          rude sperg

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        His version of e1m1 is one of the very few songs of his that i find actually nice instead of garbage, but i can imagine a way better metal approach than his shit

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Slayer
        Eh, I don't really like that sort of metal either. I prefer metal like...

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why didn't you just say you were gay

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      is it really metal through? my pal called it "djent" or some shit. metal is easier to listen, imo

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 was good
    eternal was bad

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 is alright. eternal is a solid 9/10 thats only hated by slow old men

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ultrakill does everything Eternal tries to do but better and it doesnt hide behind doomguy as some tacet permission for fricking up THE first person shooter. Behead all trannies.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >literally no reference to trannies the entire thread
        >brings them up anyway
        maybe its time for you to transition already

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 is good
    Eternal is good but it has a gay not40k story and ends on the shittiest FPS boss since the ghost from Bioshock Infinite.

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hugo Martin tapped into his MCU fangirl power a little too much with the Ancient Gods Part 2

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fun but the original one is still the best game ever.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's not a doom game. it plays more like halo

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 was fun, eternal laid the gameplay loop too bare and added too much bloat

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only good thing about nudoom is it's a good benchmark for your pc

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      What game is this?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        skyrim vr (modded)

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Chick at the end is one of that big b***h form RE Village's daughters. I don't have a clue if that's village vr though or if she's modded into something else and anon was being serious about skyrim vr, shit seems crazy and like neither of those games so who the frick knows?

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    shit
    if i wanted gameplay interrupted every 5 seconds i would play a jrpg

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >movement is shit
    >levels are shit
    >DUDE RIP AND TEAR XD
    it's shit

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked Doom 2016 and it felt like the franchise was potentially on its way back to its roots, but then Eternal happened and it's like some Fisher Price "demonic" aesthetic abomination that somehow still takes itself too seriously and basically plays nothing like Doom. It wasn't a bad game overall but it's frustrating that the best Doom content is still coming from modders who work for free while the devs who own the IP and have actual budgets and ask for money for their games make vastly inferior shit.

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomer Shooters > Boomer Shooters

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      doom and quake and half life aren't even boomer shooters anymore
      it's halo and timesplitters and turok now
      such a moronic name

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Zoomer Shooters > Boomer Shooters >>> Bhopslop

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    the devs clearly played brutal doom but didn't realize the executions were an optional joke

    the level design is also completely fricked where its just kill arenas

  29. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's good. Prefer Eternal over that and 2016

  30. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    doomguys lore is always best when its just "*shrug* I guess he was just the right guy in the right place" you really lose me when
    >BRO HE WAS THE BEST IN THE ANGEL GAMES ARENA
    >BRO THE TEMPLARS GAVE HIM SOOPER COOL ARMOR BROS
    >BRO HE WAS BLESSED BY THE ANGEL ALIENS TO ALWAYS WIN
    its just gay, the same as turning demons from like, pack animals into toddlers that play with Doom Brand Funko pops

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Backstory in Doom is like the personal history of a prostitute, not needed.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, but even indulging in it, the direction sucks. If theres super magic best of the best angel armor that the templars "appoint" to doomguy it doesnt need to be some gay qualified cutscene bullshit. 2016 even sort of pulls it off where
        >gamelore
        >doomguy doesnt give a shit and isnt playing along, he just wants total demon death
        eternal ties doomguy in too deep, giving him moments of weakness and a homosexual mancave space ship with VIDYA AND VINYL RECORDS AND LE BUNNEH! Doomguy at his core shows up, doesnt fricking care, and gets the job done. His magic angel armor would be much better lore if angel scientists or templars were hard at work perfecting it when suddenly demons attack and doomguy just fricking grabs it because its there and plops it on and bounces. I dont like the idea of doomguy being a former member of some moronic holy order of the angel elves of neptune or whatever the frick

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and a homosexual mancave space ship with VIDYA AND VINYL RECORDS AND LE BUNNEH!
          That all came from 2016 and its reception.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            true, I cant really argue with that, but its the doubling down that takes things way too frickin far. 2016 felt like it made minor questionably noncanon nods to the player, Eternal steeps itself in that shit

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              The only difference is that you can see the toys outside of a menu.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the only difference
                theres a pretty big frickin difference in that you dont select your missions from the doomslayer mancave in 2016 complete with LE HECKIN WHOLESOME MARKIPLIERS DAD REFERENCE!!!

  31. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 good zoom eternal bad

  32. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    things to put as secrets in your level-based FPS game
    >secret encounters and bosses (these shitty classic maps do not count)
    >new alternate weapons
    >interesting shortcuts, even moreso if focused on specific challenges or replays
    >whole secret levels
    >cool powerups
    >ammo and health and etc (if its a game where said resources have any degree of scarcity)
    >if its a small thing then make it hidden in something you reach very quickly and dont put in many of them
    >few, but individually significant lore texts
    >permanent stat ups if its a progression-focused game (yes argent cells are decent enough)

    things to NOT put as secrets in your level-based FPS genre

    [...]

    collectable dolls to unlock some random shit in the extras that nobody will literally ever look at

    [...]

    lore texts for coming up with a lazy shallow explanation for literally every single location and weapon and existing thing within the game

    [...]

    interactables that give you 1/6th of what you need to give an insignificant upgrade to your armor
    shitty minigames that take you out of the level to do something that is as stupid, immersion breaking and childish as it is incredibly boring
    >12 pickups that give you weapon mods, knowing full well that a huge portion of said weapon mods are incredibly boring, straight up useless, or soon completely outclassed, and that you can only use one of them per gun at a time

    if you expect me to spend 1/2 the gameplay looking at the minimap, then at least give me some actually cool shit for it

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      they should have
      1. given doomslayer everything he needs, like in doom
      2. give cool bonuses for scoreattack/time attack given that 90% of the combat is arena focussed anyway
      but were already here so whatever

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have no idea what you're talking about

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        and the people making 2016 had no idea of what a fun secret is, evidently

  33. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 is mediocre, Eternal is amazing.

  34. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Plays more like Painkiller rather than DOOM

  35. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    metadoom is epic

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're trying too hard, shill.

  36. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    First one was a disappointing bore; your movement is so overpowered and your weapon selection so sames that the gameplay never changes, you just keep double jumping all around to get up close with a demon and shoot it in the face. Repeat for eight hours. Anemy variety isn't better than Destiny, either. FAr from it, in fact.

    I don't understand people who praise it to high heaven. I certainly don't understand how the frick anybody can call the original better than Doom Eternal, one of the greatest FPS games ever made, the game that fixed everything wrong with Doom.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that Doom Eternal doesn't have Snapmap like the first one does is unacceptable.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      What I meant to say by "overpowered movement" is that, speaking as a person who champiuons 7th generation tacticool shooters, the level design has absoliutely no effect on the encounter design because your movement cancels out the level design.

      Doom Eternal fixed that.

  37. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good games but they didn't feel like doom to me. Doom always felt like an action puzzle adventure to me more than a shooter. NuDoom is a lot more fun if you compare it to Quake but the movement is lackluster and the arena battles are missing the point.

  38. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >that time underthemayo called out Ganker
    Kek

    ?si=-6RDtn8kqXz4joFc

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      underthemayo is a wienersucking moron who loves garbage wacky action games

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mayo is pathetic
      >Makes video after video claiming anyone who doesn't like Eternal's playstyle or learn its rules is a crying baby
      >Proceeds to be a crying baby when he plays other hard games that demand he learns the rules
      Why are zoomer youtubers such giant hypocrites?

  39. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who?

  40. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got to Gore Nest then the hard drive fricked up, lost my save and I couldn't be fricked going through it all again. Today I've been playing this festive Doom 2 wad, it's fun.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks nice. I'm playing Eviternity II, that shit fricking rocks.

  41. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    it took forever for the game to give me 1 bossfight and it was so fricking bland and boring
    playing any other zoomer shooter just makes me wish i was playing an ultrakill update instead

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >boss fights are… le good

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        in the fps genre? no they are mostly not
        but they should be

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          The only old FPS game I can recall having good bosses was Turok.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Duke had ok bosses

  42. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    When a game inspires daily bait threads, you truly know it's one of the greats.

  43. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is there sudenly so much discussion about DOOM again?
    Anyway im doing the "Can't perfect perfection" challenge in DE and it's pretty fun 🙂

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      anniversary

  44. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The glory kills get repetitive and break my rhythm when I'm killing demons, requiring me to reorient myself after every minicutscene. Other than that, I liked it.

  45. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they showed Doomguy's face
    into the bin it goes

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous
  46. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like it for what it is, even if the story turns to shit in Eternal. Also, the levels are too linear with too many lockdown arenas.
    The fanbase for Eternal is especially bad, being filled with tryhard internet tough guy 14 year olds trying to look "badass" while not knowing anything about the series other than Eternal. They're far too defensive of it from any criticisms and do that wonderful fanboy tactic of "We don't attack people for criticising our game, but they have to be ~~*legitimate*~~ criticisms!" While claiming any criticisms you have to not be legitimate. Very convenient for them.

  47. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dude it's pure gameplay no cinematic bullshit
    >uhhh just ignore all the times the game takes control away
    >just ignore the times someone is yammering at you and you can't do anything
    >or the time you're stuck in an office

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >BROOOO THIS GAME IS SO HARDCOREEEE
      >mindlessly swaps between 2 weapons and swings around like a moron
      the only people who could love nu doom are gaylo babies

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        > who could love nu doom are gaylo babies
        Never played gaylo, love nudoom2. Kys

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          you should play it
          it's almost the exact same gay shit except without the swinging like soiderman

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >regenerating health
            >slow
            >2 weapon limit
            >shitty turret and vehicle sections
            ?

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >quick swap between 2 weapons because that's all you need
              >press x to health
              >what is the big homosexual gun 9000 and dickhook

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                swap between 2 weapons because that's all you need
                >you have other weapons which you can use at any time which fill different roles besides your ssg/balista workhorse combo
                >somehow it is the same as gaylo's 2 weapon limit
                Not gonna bother the rest of your dumbass post.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >doood the homosexual's dick I been sucking this entire time didn't design it with a controller and beat it with a controller
                concession accepted

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >homosexual starts talking about dicks
                Kwab

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >suddenly blurts out like a monkey with a what isn't even a real word

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >what isn't even a real word
                >kek what a b***h
                ?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >duiajfaihjfau
                in english please

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ieslb
                >no u
                You should hire a new English tutor. Fernando Esposito de la Cruz doesn't seem to be cutting it.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he says while defending gaylo with demon reskins
                you're doing a terrible job at defending the xbox

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >muttoid's headcanon
                fernando de la cruz....

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >like nooooo you don't get it it has mario fireballs on swinging chains
                >it's completely different
                >you can bing bing

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >muh mario
                Your mind? My residence, free of charge

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                you? troony
                obsession? imaginary
                your native language? huehue
                nudoom? slow

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your concession? Accepted.
                Your post? Discarded.
                Your mental state? moronic.

                My laughter? Cacophonous.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                bazinga

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Gets mad and types gibberish
                Concession accepted.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                updooted and doom slayer approved
                wub wub wub *lawn mower spergs*

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                confession denied

  48. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bad and mindlessly boring.

  49. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eternal is clearly better than og 2016 outside the lack of normal MP and snapmaps, but it's not perfect. I guess I'll go through the typical Ganker nitpicking

    good
    >enemies are actually not all pushovers
    >some extra variety with environments
    >turbo speed doomguy feels pretty damn good
    >most weapons feel useful outside a few disappointing ones
    >switchable mods also helps
    >decent, if mostly railroad linear design
    >great soundtrack and visuals
    >dlcs are actually fricking hard and have neat scenarios
    >master levels are fun, but some are total b***hes (2 marauders in poison is ass)
    >all weapons have to be used to succeed
    >glory kill/chainsaw/flamethrower loop is decent enough
    >crucible sword made me cum every time, hammer as well to a lesser extent

    not good
    >story is mediocre, i mean it's hard to make something with mass appeal in a game unconcerned with story, but it still is a bit cringe at points
    >final fight with mechasatan is goofy, really should have been doomguy vs anti doomguy
    >some dlc enemies have literally ONE counter which is a pain in the ass and bad design
    >it's a fricking workout to play, so much button mashing
    >should have had a few more mazelike elements and enemies between arenas
    >needed more cool secrets
    >unmaykr is ass compared to the ludicrously powerful bfg
    >some encounters need PERFECT play to get through, like that prenerf secret mini arena in the first dlc holy frick that was hard

    Still give it a 9 though, boombooms can seethe. Not every new game needs to be a literal clone of the old ones. You can recognize the flaws of a game while still calling it an amazing must-play, which is not something most of you homosexuals can do.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Actually admitting it has flaws despite loving it
      I wish more people could do that with their favourite games. I also think Eternal is pretty good and have played it repeatedly but the original games plus wads are my favourites due to how simple the gameplay is yet how challenging a well made map can be.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed, although I wanted at least one more level in Urdak, I love the aesthetic of the Maykrs.

  50. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >40gay story
    >leaning into le rip and tear comic for the memes
    >avengers portals
    >the dark lord is le evil you

  51. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its fun
    better than 3, thank god the original doom 4 idea was laughed out of existence

  52. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    painkiller but worse

  53. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    took a franchise known for its level design and gave us the most lame linear levels imaginable and they still felt the need for a quest compass
    arena rooms are lazy

  54. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kino

  55. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's good.
    Really makes you feel like you're the final boss.
    Sometimes the forced arena are a bit tiresome, and some platforming sections annoying, but overall I couldn't complain.

  56. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's fun, I liked it.

  57. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it until Ultrakill came out
    Ultrakill does everything Eternal does, but better and faster
    Eternal just feels obsolete, at least the classic games still feel unique

  58. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I decided to play the old games until the end for the first time (I had just played only the first 3 levels of both Doom 1 and 2). I have to say, Doom 1 was a blast, but I'm currently like 17 levels into Doom 2 and many were an absolute chore. Why do people think Doom 2 is better again? The new shotgun and enemies (which are cool) dont make up for the shitty levels.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do people think Doom 2 is better again? The new shotgun and enemies (which are cool) dont make up for the shitty levels.
      That's the trick. You play wads that replace the mediocre Doom 2 levels with good ones that keep the cool enemies and weapons at the same time.
      Some recommendations:
      Eviternity
      Ancient Aliens
      Going Down
      Valiant
      Scythe 2
      Ad Mortem
      Back to Saturn X parts 1 and 2

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The middle section is a low point, but it picks back up again in Hell.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      As other anons have said yes the original has much tighter level design. 2 is more of a cash grab, that's just what game design was like back then, they had to churn stuff out quickly. The level that's supposed to be a city but looks like shit is the worst I can think of. If you like tight levels check out Quake 1, is good shit.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I decided to play the old games until the end for the first time (I had just played only the first 3 levels of both Doom 1 and 2). I have to say, Doom 1 was a blast, but I'm currently like 17 levels into Doom 2 and many were an absolute chore. Why do people think Doom 2 is better again? The new shotgun and enemies (which are cool) dont make up for the shitty levels.

        >If you like tight levels check out Quake 1, is good shit.
        Then check out the Arcane Dimensions mod because honestly it's the best retro FPS experience out there and its completely free if you own Quake. It takes the idea of dark worlds of evil magic from the main game and actually does cool shit with it.
        Standouts include Foggy Bogbottom, a crumbling fortress town in a swamp, The Realm of Enceladus, a temple on the top of a snowy mountain and Tears of the False God which is a ruin floating in a clear sky and is absolutely beautiful.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another thing I forgot to mention is that I'm quicksaving a LOT on Doom 2 because its full of unfair shit where they will randomly open door to a 1000 enemies (it sometimes happened in doom 1, but it wasnt this dense, and Doom 1 doesnt have that fricking cacodemon that vomits lost souls), or a TP will just lead to a room full of demons right behind you, or sometimes you just fall of a cliff and there is literally no way to go back up so youre doomed. I would quicksave like twice in each level on Doom 1, maybe thrice, but now I do it constantly.

      The middle section is a low point, but it picks back up again in Hell.

      Hopefully

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pain elemental, anon. It's called a pain elemental.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only levels 1-7, 28 and 29 in Doom 2 are good. Just move on to Plutonia, No Rest for the Living then community wads.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      People only like Doom 2 for the new weapon and enemies. And that's okay tbh.

  59. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like it a LOT more when I don't have to play a QTE to get ammo.

  60. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What are your HONEST thoughts on NuDoom?
    It's fine. I want to start a loving family with the protagonist tho

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry, anon, he's already met someone.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        She's my self-insert 🙂

  61. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 is a great Painkiller game.

    Eternal's over-reliance on Glory Kills sucks hard. I never finished it because I hate having to perform it on almost every enemy just to get some ammo.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Both games are equally reliant on cutscene kills. 2016 arguably moreso because higher difficulties nerf pickups hard.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hard disagree. I completed 2016 on Ultra Violence and Nightmare and never had an issue with ammo, never used the Chainsaw once to refill. Eternal is super staunchy giving you any Dakka if you don't utilize Glory Kills.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          2016 on nightmare has you glory killing constantly because health pickups don't give you anything and glory killing is the only way to get it back.

          You chainsaw once or twice per fight in DE but you have ways besides actual glory kills to get your health and armor back now.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You also get less health from glory killing in 2016 on higher difficulties

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              You get less health from everything, meaning you need to explore every possible option when Imps are taking 40HP chunks out of you with a fastball.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You should replay 2016 again, I would agree if it was your first blind playthrough but even on my initial run I had no issue no I realized I can skip Glory Kills.

            However for fairness sake, I will give Eternal another try.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              You ever do UNM in 2016? I realize that's what I'm talking about when I say "on nightmare," avoiding death at all costs

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't have much time to invest into gaming anymore, restarting the entire campaign after a single death is not something I care for to be honest.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                shit like that is fun if you like the game and have the time. nudoom is a good game for it because it's so arcadey.

                anyway, point is that you had to glorykill like fricking crazy in doom 2016 if you wanted to keep yourself comfortably in the green and not dying in one bad hit which you REALLY didn't want in UNM

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Eternal is tough on its first playthrough, but you barely need to chainsaw once you know how to play it and what to expect out of arenas and fights.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Shoot the red barrels, dumbass.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Glory Kills and ammo aren’t really related??

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      One thing I never got about Eternal
      >Doom 2016 has multiple animations for a chainsaw kill and they're satisfying as frick
      >Eternal, a game that tries to one up 2016 as hard as it can only has one per demon and none of them are satisfying

  62. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't Eternalgays ever talk about the shmups they've cleared? Eternal and shmups genuinely have a lot of design overlap, but I never see the eternal fanatics talk about shmups

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf is this crap

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know you're shitposting, but genuinely, if you like Eternal you'd probably like shmups

  63. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    How come there's no reference to Doomguys little rabbit from the older games?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is. You can see Daisy as an easter egg in some levels in Eternal. She even has animations.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh wtf I totally missed her

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh wtf I totally missed her

        Every level in Eternal has a Daisy to find.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's actually an empty rabbit cage in the Fortress.

  64. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yahtzee made the same point and I have to agree, glory kill sounds too much like gloryhole

  65. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I miss Arcade Mode so much. That and UNM skipping the tutorial at the start of the game are the only things I prefer from 2016. Horde Mode sucks.

  66. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like Eternal as a game more but I remember going for a UNM clear in 2016 without looking into guides or anything solo really fondly.

  67. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they take 2016, use normal weapon models like zoom eternal did and never do any other moronic shit zoom eternal did ever again then they could easily make around 2-3 more good games before it grows too stale and needs more changes
    Only morons with terminal nostalgia hate 2016, it's not better or not worse than old dooms

  68. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doom Eternal tricks stupid people into thinking it's got good combat.
    It was Doom's 9/11

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doom Eternal ran over my dog and put a pox upon my country

  69. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 is bomb in terms of atmosphere and game feel, although I admit the soundtrack does a lot of heavy lifting.

    Eternal kinda took things in a more obnoxious direction. Soundtrack also isn't quite as good.

  70. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    In short: 2016 had better aesthetics, story, and lore (esp. in terms of how it was told, Doom's story is better left vague and elusive rather than super detailed like some w40k fanfic)
    Eternal indisputably has better gameplay, it's the most natural development for every mechanic in the previous game as well as fixing the dominant strategy problem in 2016.
    Overall, I think nudoom is a respectable duology that deserves its name. Fun, no-nonsense shooters that I personally don't tire of. However, I'm unsure whether they'll stand the test of time like Doom I and II did - those games are like chess now.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      All nudoom had to be is a breath of fresh air and it succeeded at that IMO.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Doom's story is better left vague and elusive rather than super detailed like some w40k fanfic
      I think Doom 3 did it well. The story was campy as frick but the lore was actually interesting if you decided to read into it and was completely optional.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >running laps, chainsawing for magic ammo and bing bing wahoos is "better gameplay"

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >running laps
        Doom 2016 was already like that
        >chainsawing for ammo
        Doom 2016 also had that mechanic. Eternal made it more important because it fits within the gameplay loop.
        >bing bing wahoos
        If you're referring to the more gamey aesthetic I've already acknowledged 2016 has Eternal beat in that regard.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >made it more important because it fits within the gameplay loop.
          exactly the problem here, it went full moron on running laps and chainsawing
          >If you're referring to the more gamey aesthetic
          i'm referring to moronic platforming that has no place in shooters unless their whole gimmick is movement (which is not nudoom's case)

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not sure what's moronic about laps and chainsawing. Like I said, it's a natural evolution of every aspect that *everyone* praised about 2016: faster, harder, more intense etc. If you think it went overboard on any of those aspects that's alright, but it's not necessarily a regression in terms of game design, no more than chess is a regression from checkers.

            >platforming

            I'll assume you mean the platforming between combat arenas (Eternal and 2016 are pretty similar when it comes to overall arena design). This is not a complaint that I ever understood (except from the aesthetic standpoint, but I've already addressed that). The platforming is minimal, easy, and quick; I last played eternal around 8 or 9 months ago and I can recall most arenas perfectly, but I can't remember a single platforming section. The only reasonable critique (which I agree with) against the platforming is that it goes against nudoom's aesthetic.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2016 had better aesthetics
      lol lmao

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        achievable natty?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >all demons are now oiled lizards with carapaces
        I fricking hate this so much! It is so generic!

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Counterpoint: 2016 baron vs. Eternal baron. Latter is literally just gray with flames.

  71. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomer's fist "metal" songs and bloody game. Mick Gordon's music is fricking dogshit but these morons literally worship his songs.

  72. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ganker doesn't know about micks awesome KI soundtrack because they literally do not play games

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody owned an Xbone.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's been on steam
        Ganker DOES NOT play games

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hurr if you don't play EVERY SINGLE video game you don't play ANY video game
      Fighting games are for browns.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Ganker is now actively praising not engaging with the board topic

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Post your Steam account if you're playing so many video games. Put your money where your mouth is, homosexual.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure it's https://steamcommunity.com/id/GabeNewell

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >no video games
              Just as I thought.

  73. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Peak Doom. Only homosexuals disagree.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      underrage

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tinnitus.wad

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not the best game.

  74. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Q3A/UT99 vet here who never got into Doom.
    It's cool.

  75. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked 4 and disliked 5.

  76. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    remember when people used to shit all over painkiller and now those same fricking homosexuals cream all over the nudooms?
    frick all of you, they have the same design except painkiller has better weapons, atmosphere and cool ass frick enemy designs

  77. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    First Doom game I played was Doom 3. I was old enough to play the first Doom but I was more into Dark Forces back then.
    Doom 2016 is pretty good but I think I prefer Doom 3 just for the survival horror atmosphere.

  78. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Boring.

  79. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im not convinced the most ardent Zoom Eternal queers even fricking care. Theyre just gay hbomberguy cucks who hate negativity and need to stand contrary to that negativity. Im 100% positive that despite me hating Eternal, I care a lot more about Doom getting another game, whereas Doom could simply never get another game for the rest of time and theyd be simply indifferent.

  80. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 was fine. I'm convinced the only people who claim to like eternal are just trolls who like to argue on the internet.

  81. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 is a masterpiece, then Eternal came and ruined it again. Devs think they're smarter than they are.

  82. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    instead of this gay shit they should have done the reveal and have it be John Romero who says
    >to beat the game, you must kill me, John Romero

  83. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate finishers locking you into 1 second animations
    I hate the design and balance revolving around pinata enemies which is made even worse by 1 second animations

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Id argue in favor of glory kills if it was like, every final enemy or one in 20 or a rare dice roll, but damn its too much

  84. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm tired of God of War as an FPS + mutism. I just want to shoot shit.

  85. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Repedative boring levels. Only several levels. Only the plasma rifle looks good and fires well. Aiming issues. Lag. Downgrades. Too high res. No ads. It's a massive step back from rage and a giant dissapointment. Cartoonish. Eternal is unplayably stupid.

  86. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2016 had the right idea. Eternal went into a completely different direction contrary to the design philosophy of 2016 that's divisive and for good reason.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eterrnal expanded on all the systems introduced in 2016. Consolegays hate it because their conntrollers can't handle it.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        but nu doom is designed with controller
        that makes no logical sense you moron

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Eternal has a lot of necessary inputs, and it sucks when you're on a controller. 2016 could get by with one because it had fewer necessary actions and there was less reason to switch your weapons often.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            tell that to the Black person who made it into 40k marvel shit who plays with a xbox pad and gave it a weapon wheel

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why should I? Eternal sucks on a controller and consolegays have been impotently screeching about it for 3 straight years now.

              youre moronic

              You know your game is in a bad place when basic actions need to be mapped to the d-pad.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            youre moronic

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