It’s cringe
Either >No one does anything because one team is stacked vs the other
or >Everyone on oneside realizes they can just go Heavy to kill everyone and now they can get an easy cap while the enemy team respawns
spawncamping is indicative of one of two things:
The first is poor map design. If a map is designed in such a way that one team is able to easily position themselves to camp the enemy spawn, it is a badly designed map.
The second is a massive skill imbalance. If one team is so much better than the other team that they are able to completely crush them to the point where they are trapped in their own spawn, it is the losing team's fault for lacking skill or morale, and a total defeat is the logical consequence.
In neither case does any fault lie with the spawncampers, who are simply playing the game as well as they are able to.
I think it’s funny even when I’m on the receiving end of it. If you’re getting spawncamped, you have been outplayed.
homosexual ass takes >Purposefully exploit poor map design and poor team balancing to prevent people from even leaving spawn >It’s not the spawncamper’s fault though
Spawncamping more often than not happens in unique gamemodes (ie classwars or 100 player server), when teams are incredibly uneven (ie. Somehow an 8 v 2 scenario), or one team is filled with homosexuals using discord to stomp teams in casual.
Spawncamping rarely happens otherwise. At worst you’ll get a cheap kill by someone not expecting you. Because you can always swap to Heavy and Soldier, and people being spawncamped usually have lower respawn times, spawncamping is incredibly tough to do in most matches.
>They literally can't when they get spawncamped moron. How the frick are they supposed to when the other team isn't letting them?
if you shoot the other team with your gun they can't spawncamp you. if you're so bad at doing that that they're able to roll you all the way back to your spawn and then keep you from leaving, oh well, you should probably get better at the game. what you're asking for at this point is for the other team to feel sorry for you and let you win
>what you're asking for at this point is for the other team to feel sorry for you and let you win
What YOU'RE asking is for me to excuse your poor sportmanship by "getting good anyway".
you are a delicate baby that lacks the vigor and warrior spirit required for manly combat against worthy foes and has instead retreated forever into the coddled playpen of PVE comp stomping, and your opinions are worth nothing
Welcome to Ganker. EVERYONE'S opinion doesn't matter here.
8 months ago
Anonymous
No shit, most of the game modes is pushing the enemy back, preferrably to spawn. Sorry my team played the game and you and your homies sucked.
Hell, if you got a good player, I most definitely am encouraged to put him out of commission, ie in spawn.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not asking you to do anything because I don't care about you or your opinions. You're asking me to stop spawncamping, and I'm saying "no". In the interest of good faith, I have explained my reasoning to you.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>You're asking me to stop spawncamping, and I'm saying "no".
Then I am calling you a bad player. Simple as. Convo done.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You can call me that, but you're objectively wrong even within your own argument because you're essentially complaining that I'm winning too hard for your liking.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>St-stop spawncamping us, you're a bad player! >Nah >Anon is STILL godlike > 30
>Bro just kill 8 enemy gamers all in discord with each other, all with high ground advantage, by yourself with your only means out of spawn being a tiny as choke
Sure
if your only exit from spawn is a tiny choke that the enemies can camp from highground, play a better map
if you can't obliterate a gaggle of discord homosexuals using only your own prowess and the sporadic assistance of ricardo.alvarez.2009 coordinated via the vintage tf2 audio codec as you shout over the guy micspamming remixes of the space jam theme, then you lack the true spirit required for proper TF2 and should probably just go join one of those homosexual discords and become part of the problem
>It’s not the spawncamper’s fault though
it literally isn't, do you want them to pass up the opportunity of effectively disable the enemy team while a teammate does the objective while also getting some laughs out of it?
If it gets real bad they might eventually get bored of spawncamping but there's still little challenge for them if the players were bad enough to get into that situation
>It's not MY fault I'm being toxic. It's the game AND the enemy team
Shitheads like you are why I stick to MVM instead of "real" TF2. No sense arguing with people lost to this logic. Just getting out of their way.
you are a delicate baby that lacks the vigor and warrior spirit required for manly combat against worthy foes and has instead retreated forever into the coddled playpen of PVE comp stomping, and your opinions are worth nothing
>play on Suijin or Harvest as Demo >sticky over to the enemy spawn and camp that shit >After even a singular kill the seethe begins in chat
It's like a magical cheat code to generate anger and I fricking adore it.
In TF2's case, it's mostly due to meet your match fricking everything up. >queue for map >join the losing team where 3 people left after the match ended >ranking based balance doesn't work because even experienced players might stack support classes out of stubbornness (see: 4 spies), avoid integral classes (medic, engineer on defense) or just frick around with meme loadouts (trolldier, demoknight) >one team inevitably gets steamrolled >match ends, 3 people ragequit >the losing team now has an extra handicap until autobalance kicks in but ultimately doesn't matter anyways (see above) >match ends again, more people leave >some people who were queued finally join >repeat
It really wouldn't be as much of an issue if official servers just worked like community ones and people could join on the fly, change teams, preview player lists, etc.
You have a moral obligation not to spawncamp. Even if it's enabled by poor map design, it's an activity partaken only by the biggest and blackest of gorilla Black folk. If your team is overwhelmingly stronger, simply win the game and move on.
The only people who will disagree with me are not only Black folk, but israelites as well.
And how exactly should we win the game? Obviously, some people should be playing the objective, otherwise you're deliberately not winning the game in order to stomp the other team for a prolonged period, which is bad sportsmanship. You should be trying to win. But in a situation where the enemy team is pushed back to their own spawn, trying to win involves spawncamping. The alternative is to simply let the enemy team gain better positioning than they could achieve on their own out of pity. This is especially true on certain maps where the objective is right next to the enemy spawn. On Frontier, for example, the final objective is literally BEHIND the enemy spawn. Playing the game optimally in some circumstances requires at least some portion of your team to be spawncamping the enemy.
You should do it as long as it is funny to yourself but devs should try to avoid it being possible whenever it doesn't substract from the experience. Tf2 does the latter (most of the time) by having multiple exits to the same spawnroom or having multiple active spawnrooms.
>sentry that close to the door
Lay stickies at the entrance and wait for one of the speds on your team to open the door >sentry at the back
Switch to direct hit solly
Based
homosexuals, But it's fine as long there's couple exits, otherwise this is why 2fort is the homosexual tier in this game
skill issue
fpbp. Skill issue, OP. If you're getting spawn camped, it's 100% your fault.
causes seethe which is based
makes losers seethe uncontrollably so I like it a lot
sucks but that's life
don't hate the player, hate the game
Spawncamping doesn't exist in well-designed maps
For morons that don't actually want to play the game and treat it like a job. I always hang back and just look at things when my team does it.
It’s cringe
Either
>No one does anything because one team is stacked vs the other
or
>Everyone on oneside realizes they can just go Heavy to kill everyone and now they can get an easy cap while the enemy team respawns
winners win
spawncamping is indicative of one of two things:
The first is poor map design. If a map is designed in such a way that one team is able to easily position themselves to camp the enemy spawn, it is a badly designed map.
The second is a massive skill imbalance. If one team is so much better than the other team that they are able to completely crush them to the point where they are trapped in their own spawn, it is the losing team's fault for lacking skill or morale, and a total defeat is the logical consequence.
In neither case does any fault lie with the spawncampers, who are simply playing the game as well as they are able to.
homosexual ass takes
>Purposefully exploit poor map design and poor team balancing to prevent people from even leaving spawn
>It’s not the spawncamper’s fault though
Spawncamping more often than not happens in unique gamemodes (ie classwars or 100 player server), when teams are incredibly uneven (ie. Somehow an 8 v 2 scenario), or one team is filled with homosexuals using discord to stomp teams in casual.
Spawncamping rarely happens otherwise. At worst you’ll get a cheap kill by someone not expecting you. Because you can always swap to Heavy and Soldier, and people being spawncamped usually have lower respawn times, spawncamping is incredibly tough to do in most matches.
get good/play better maps
They literally can't when they get spawncamped moron. How the frick are they supposed to when the other team isn't letting them?
>They literally can't when they get spawncamped moron. How the frick are they supposed to when the other team isn't letting them?
if you shoot the other team with your gun they can't spawncamp you. if you're so bad at doing that that they're able to roll you all the way back to your spawn and then keep you from leaving, oh well, you should probably get better at the game. what you're asking for at this point is for the other team to feel sorry for you and let you win
>what you're asking for at this point is for the other team to feel sorry for you and let you win
What YOU'RE asking is for me to excuse your poor sportmanship by "getting good anyway".
Welcome to Ganker. EVERYONE'S opinion doesn't matter here.
No shit, most of the game modes is pushing the enemy back, preferrably to spawn. Sorry my team played the game and you and your homies sucked.
Hell, if you got a good player, I most definitely am encouraged to put him out of commission, ie in spawn.
I'm not asking you to do anything because I don't care about you or your opinions. You're asking me to stop spawncamping, and I'm saying "no". In the interest of good faith, I have explained my reasoning to you.
>You're asking me to stop spawncamping, and I'm saying "no".
Then I am calling you a bad player. Simple as. Convo done.
You can call me that, but you're objectively wrong even within your own argument because you're essentially complaining that I'm winning too hard for your liking.
>St-stop spawncamping us, you're a bad player!
>Nah
>Anon is STILL godlike > 30
>Bro just kill 8 enemy gamers all in discord with each other, all with high ground advantage, by yourself with your only means out of spawn being a tiny as choke
Sure
if your only exit from spawn is a tiny choke that the enemies can camp from highground, play a better map
if you can't obliterate a gaggle of discord homosexuals using only your own prowess and the sporadic assistance of ricardo.alvarez.2009 coordinated via the vintage tf2 audio codec as you shout over the guy micspamming remixes of the space jam theme, then you lack the true spirit required for proper TF2 and should probably just go join one of those homosexual discords and become part of the problem
>It’s not the spawncamper’s fault though
it literally isn't, do you want them to pass up the opportunity of effectively disable the enemy team while a teammate does the objective while also getting some laughs out of it?
If it gets real bad they might eventually get bored of spawncamping but there's still little challenge for them if the players were bad enough to get into that situation
You are a genuinely bad person.
>It's not MY fault I'm being toxic. It's the game AND the enemy team
Shitheads like you are why I stick to MVM instead of "real" TF2. No sense arguing with people lost to this logic. Just getting out of their way.
you are a delicate baby that lacks the vigor and warrior spirit required for manly combat against worthy foes and has instead retreated forever into the coddled playpen of PVE comp stomping, and your opinions are worth nothing
It's a video game where fat man goes pootis and everybody conga dances. Stop being cringe.
i am not the one crying that the fat pootis man game is too hard for me and i can't leave my spawn, anon
>play on Suijin or Harvest as Demo
>sticky over to the enemy spawn and camp that shit
>After even a singular kill the seethe begins in chat
It's like a magical cheat code to generate anger and I fricking adore it.
In TF2's case, it's mostly due to meet your match fricking everything up.
>queue for map
>join the losing team where 3 people left after the match ended
>ranking based balance doesn't work because even experienced players might stack support classes out of stubbornness (see: 4 spies), avoid integral classes (medic, engineer on defense) or just frick around with meme loadouts (trolldier, demoknight)
>one team inevitably gets steamrolled
>match ends, 3 people ragequit
>the losing team now has an extra handicap until autobalance kicks in but ultimately doesn't matter anyways (see above)
>match ends again, more people leave
>some people who were queued finally join
>repeat
It really wouldn't be as much of an issue if official servers just worked like community ones and people could join on the fly, change teams, preview player lists, etc.
spawn camping is stinky doodoo, I don't like being on either side of it 🙁
>pick pyro
>flame away
problems werent.
Skill issue
thought of their suffering stiffens my wiener
I think it’s funny even when I’m on the receiving end of it. If you’re getting spawncamped, you have been outplayed.
You have a moral obligation not to spawncamp. Even if it's enabled by poor map design, it's an activity partaken only by the biggest and blackest of gorilla Black folk. If your team is overwhelmingly stronger, simply win the game and move on.
The only people who will disagree with me are not only Black folk, but israelites as well.
And how exactly should we win the game? Obviously, some people should be playing the objective, otherwise you're deliberately not winning the game in order to stomp the other team for a prolonged period, which is bad sportsmanship. You should be trying to win. But in a situation where the enemy team is pushed back to their own spawn, trying to win involves spawncamping. The alternative is to simply let the enemy team gain better positioning than they could achieve on their own out of pity. This is especially true on certain maps where the objective is right next to the enemy spawn. On Frontier, for example, the final objective is literally BEHIND the enemy spawn. Playing the game optimally in some circumstances requires at least some portion of your team to be spawncamping the enemy.
A demoman could destroy that shit easy
It's fun, a legitimate strategy and it builds character.
>builds character
More like builds your kill tally on your Strange weapons. Don't deny it.
That too but it also teaches you to quit caring so much about dying in video games
You'd have to suck immensely to get fricked that hard. It's also very funny so whatever.
You should do it as long as it is funny to yourself but devs should try to avoid it being possible whenever it doesn't substract from the experience. Tf2 does the latter (most of the time) by having multiple exits to the same spawnroom or having multiple active spawnrooms.
Stomping is boring
Agreed, but stomping players who get ass-mad in chat is not.
funny when i do it cancer when it's against me
>multiple weapon options suited for every situation
>Multiple spawn points to exits from
>Still die to the same way shit and never switch up your game
I feel nothing for those that get spawn camped.
so easy to break through in tf2 that a team getting spawncamped deserves it
>sentry that close to the door
Lay stickies at the entrance and wait for one of the speds on your team to open the door
>sentry at the back
Switch to direct hit solly
It's ok when it's done without cheats (ex medic + heavy combo using cheats). There's a sense of reward when you defuse the nest at your doors
spawncamping noobs is the only reason why I main demo