What can PoE 2 learn from Diablo 4 to emulate its sucess?
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What can PoE 2 learn from Diablo 4 to emulate its sucess?
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do everything on the contrary of diablo 4, and the game should be way better
>contrary
contrarian self-report
>sucess
uh well d4 is only successful in sales numbers and they did that on name and brand recognition
if poe2 wants to be a good game they pretty much will
Slower combat that prioritizes visual clarity
Frick you and your zoom zoom shit "gameplay"
make it pay2play so you have income outside of the mtx whales
just bee yourself
Diablo 4 success, where?
$700 million sold. That means 10 million copies sold. PoE average 20k people
everyone already quit d4 havent you watched asmongolds react vids
So? It still earned in a couple days what PoE wont ever make in its lifetime
>source: my ass
You’re telling me PoE has made a billion dollars?
no, i'm telling you're making unsibstantiated claims, i.e. pulling shit outta your ass.
Im really not tho am I? Which part was wrong? Diablo making a bill or PoE averaging 20k people?
path of exile was making about $50 million a year in pure profit back in 2020 (over $100mil cashflow), and that doesn't include china plus it was before their userbase basically doubled due to d4 being boring and people jumping ship to a real arpg with an actual economy and complex build and loot system.
do you think dilatablo 4 will have deep enough depth and an actual trade economy come their first season for people to actually think going back to the battlepass console mmo is worth it?
And diablo 4 made a billion on sales alone. Imagine when battlepasses come online and the MTX shop
Its honestly hilarious hard hard poop of excrement has gotten mogged
>And diablo 4 made a billion on sales alone
no lmao. it made around 700m, and they were in fact very careful NOT to release the actual sales numbers, only the "earnings" numbers i.e. how much money they milked form morons like you via their predatory mmo battlepass daily chore monetization.
and it still isn't more than path of exile has earned over its lifetime, which will continue on as deadgameablo 4 flounders
700 millions were early figures, it definitely made a billion
>t very careful NOT to release the actual sales numbers, only the "earnings" numbers
you are so moronic
they released the 666666 millions made in 6 days for a reason
are you guys this moronic and desperate?
game sold more in one week than multiple years of peak poe
>sold more
wow it sold more than a free game lmao. how many copies did they sell, exactly?
they probably spent a couple hundred million at least on marketing, they probably spent another couple hundred million on salaries and resoruces
just wait for when they literally drop the game like overwatch 1
if you're lucky you'll get a downgraded 'diablo 5' to replace it
>they probably spent a couple hundred million at least on marketing
At least. I've been seeing those fricking ads on bus shelters and billboards all around Toronto for months, and that shit ain't cheap.
way more than a couple hundred million. they plastered the entire times square and every other city with ads, every website is still full of D4 ads, they got every celebrity they could to shill for them, month long twitch drops and subscriber bonuses, their crosscountry tattoo thing, KFC lol. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the biggest marketing budget for any game ever.
and they still had less preorders than D3s PC release.
>all that money into marketing
>game launched with broken loot table, broken classes, poor itemization, bad legendary weapon effects, and a shitty open world that's going to make seasons a massive chore with it's filler and padding
I'm still grateful to kfc for the $5 sandwich and the opportunity to confirm for myself that d4 was casualized mmo battlepass slop. saved me $65.
>path of exile
>serbase basically doubled due to d4 being boring and people jumping ship to a real arpg with an actual economy and complex build and loot system.
PoE has lost 30% of its player base since D4 release.
but poe will break another concurrent player record in one month, a decade into its life. do you think D4 will do that?
More people have played D4 in one month of release than people have played PoE in ten years.
it's a big release after all, the more people actually play it the more they'll hate it and try to find an alternative
More people have quit D4 in one month after release than people who have played PoE in ten years.
Even with your information sourced from your ass, D4 would still dwarf PoE's player base.
> have deep enough depth and an actual trade economy
mrtBlack folk crying over trading and "economy"
lmao
>depth
LMAOOOOOOOOO
big tree = big good
you Black folk are truly low iq apes
why are you freaks arguing about which company makes the most money? go play minecraft if you want a game that makes someone else tons of money
its insane how mainstream diablo is compared to poe
d3 almost killed the franchise and yet it still made more money than poe...
it's not really insane at all, diablo is simple and made to appeal to people who just want to boot up the game and not think. people with downs can play it
poe is pretty autistic and requires time invested in learning it
Blizzard is charging up to $800 for the privilege to see firsthand their new player milking devices. At this point I'd argue that what Blizzard did "right" was creating a legion of moronic cultists who empty their pockets every new game, DLC or monetization system just out of principle.
>empty their pockets
>such a poorgay he cant spend $70 for a game
Rur. Rumao
>severely autistic blizztroon shill still at it months later with the same "muh poor" argument
I make $130k a year and I'm still not going to buy your "game as a service" mmorpg, homosexual.
yeah poe doesn't do that at all, now be sure to buy the 300 dollar supporter pack that comes with a glowing fursuit and dildo wings and maybe a 99 dollar coin pack so you can get a few stash tabs and a weapon glow during the next sale
POE doesn't cost $70 try again blizzshill
yeah its f2p (unless you want to have a character that doesn't look like a homeless person wearing a battle suit made of garbage bags and trash can lids) ((unless you want to list any items on the trade site))
she is literally butt ass naked in d4 you brain damaged turd worlder
>((unless you want to list any items on the trade site))
you don't need a trade tab to buy items you braindead mongoloid
>video games should be entirely free because I said so
time to grow up
Almost like one is marketed much better
Even the name "Diablo" is more memorable than path of exile
Blizzard marketing is truly something to behold
Is that the fridge body chick?
1. You can do basic math (obvious because you enjoy D4)
2. Didn't read the fine print about how that $666 figure was calculated.
Diablo 4 has still yet to do better than Diablo 3 launch.
how many of those are still playing
if they were to provide numbers
every dev on the planet would be laughing
If TENCENT makes it pay to play poor people will go insane and i'll support them.
It's already is pay to play, you need approx 60 dollars worth of stash tabs. Only a veteran could survive with the three basic b***h tabs the game gives you, and even then it would be hell.
if you're dumb enough to buy the tabs outside of a sale which they have every league launch yeah
played since the closed beta. have at least 20 storage mule accounts that i can remember.
back then giving chris a few funbux was aright. giving anything to TENCENT is lol.
>93.33%
>you need approx 60 dollars worth of stash tabs
Without any sales:
currency stash: $7.50
fragment tab: $7.50
map stash: $15
quad tab: $15
4x upgrade to premium: $6
Total: $51
Cost of admission for D4: $70 minimum before micros
D4 is a AAA game. Poop of excrement is not.
>this somehow justifies the price
Maybe you're just a bootlicking homosexual?
Would you pay the same amount for a lambo and a toyota just because they do the same thing?
yes, sports cars are for small-dicked homosexuals
Nothing (I hope)
Remove moron RNG mechanic in everything.
Stop making a clusterfrick cumulative minigames per season.
Stop one-shot-kill boss mechanic.
Stop visual contamination.
Stop doing games.
>Stop doing games.
stopped reading right there
I would imagine so, since it was the end of the post.
D4 is dead already.
will PoE bring back every core activity/mechanic from 1 or will it be trimmed a bit? I hope it's the latter and it's *somewhat* of a fresh start because not every endgame activity is amazing, I doubt anyone loved expeditions for example
expeditions are pretty okay
what's not okay is mechanics being designed around psychologists telling designers what will be most addictive/appealing. Look at earlier larger league mechanics, like betrayal, delve or incursion - they are all unique and have their quirks and charms. Well, maybe delve is not a good example, but you get the idea. But now you get a league mechanic that's basically "attack enemies in this location for loot explosion", which is an absolute mind-numbing activity + "attack enemies to fill up this bar to make your gear better MAYBE". Miss me with that gay shit.
Also ggg being double Black folk for butchering the most engimatic character in the game. FRICK LoK.
Relax Kraut
>what's not okay is mechanics being designed around psychologists telling designers what will be most addictive/appealing
Too late for that, PoE has been designed with this in mind for the last 4 years or so at least.
pretty sure the shit league mechanics isn't some conspiracy of game psychology but rather devs focused on poe2 content push and trying to do the same level of output (3 month cycles) with less manpower
make it easier?
i really dont have the iq to play poe
alternate automated trading system so i don't have to interact with people.
maybe make it require trading orbs you have to grind for idk
the trade system is purposefully "annoying" to keep it from being botted to hell and reducing the value of 99.999% of items in the game to near zero. turns out when the loot has no value in your loot game people stop playing it.
weird, it's still full of bots and they're the only ones that reliably respond to requests
Ya, this guy is just giving GGG too much leeway. They've had years to come up with a way to automate trading and it's by far the largest problem with the game currently.
Hey moron, the reason they havent come up with it is because they dont want it. Its a very concious game design choice
For every hour of gameplay. There is a good twenty minutes of gameplay that goes straight to setting up maintaining and trading and trades.
I have been playing trade league for the last decade and it sucks. If they won't accommodate people who have been day one supporters of their game, then they need to stop existing.
play SSF
That quite literally adds 500+ hours to a league. It limits the build variety and destroys any chance at chase uniques.
skill issue
>It limits the build variety
fair assessment, though largely mitigated by just grinding more and knowing game mechanics.
>destroys any chance at chase uniques.
it might surprise you to learn that the difference between trade league mageblood ownership and ssf mageblood ownership is only ~16% of total players. the only thing trade league might allow you to do is juice your blood-boss (crimsons, defiled cathedral, etc) maps harder for those apothecary drops, but it's still doable in ssf with enough autism (which is what ssf is for)
?
do you even play this game, anon?
jw where you pulled that number out of your ass from
ssf mageblood ownership on the ladder is 2% vs trade league's 18%.
so 2% of 18k characters vs 18% of 96k, and you're trying to argue that chase uniques are only slightly more inconvenient on ssf than trade league
ok I got it, you're just stupid. thanks
you're taking too long to grind and you're hitting the point where all of the crap you're farming is worth less and the belts are worth more
I have like 20 headhunters on standard if you ever want to play around with one though
>For every hour of gameplay. There is a good twenty minutes that goes to trading
you are unironically extremely bad at the game if this is how you actually play and think others play.
>t. Alch-and-Go Albert
yea no sorry I like having a HH or Mageblood by the end of the first week so sadly I will not be progging yellow maps on day 12 like you and as long as that requires an annoying amount of trading the game will be unfun
Doesn't the CN version have an auction house and other nice features?
Why shouldn't they just bring it over
they'll port it over for poe2 along with the cash shop vanity pets that pick up currency and the 10 dollar hardcore revives
because tencent said no
Because it ruins the game
How
Theres tons of explanations online from both players and chris but essentially it gives a more vibrant community feel and makes drops and loot more impactful
>but but
Im not having this debate right now
>more vibrant community feel
Auto messaging bots is a real "community feel"
>makes drops and loot more impactful
Everything BFR does makes drops and loot less impactful because they make it 1000x more difficult for anyone but the most dedicated autistic moron playing 20 hours a day to actually do anything.
Loot on the ground will never ever be "impactful" because BFR designs the game around the 0.0001% of players that dedicate their entire life to PoE
@BAN_DURA Hi, I'd like to buy your 1 Warlord's Exalted Orb for my 40 Chaos Orb in Crucible
I hope you fricking die you disingenuous piece of shit
this same moron with the same homosexual Twitter-esque way of speaking is in every thread mentioning PoE, making the same moronic shitty arguments
>muh drop impact
Item drops are already garbage because you have to craft shit until it's good. Wow I sure am glad 0.001% rares are usable off the ground
the chinese version basically operates like a typical korean mmo with an auction house, loot pets, pay to win league start packages, xp boosts, paying real money to revive dead hardcore characters, etc. it sucks wieners.
It also has ingame PoB, leaguestart guides and videos showing off the classes and ascendancies because they at least care about the new player experience
>because they at least care about the new player experience
of course they do. you have to hook the bugs on your predatory monetization skinnerbox early or they bzz bzz to some other gacha shit pile.
The reason doesn't matter, the point is that the CN version clearly does several things better once you get Wilson's dick out your mouth
no it doesn't. it turns the game into soulless trash. if you want soulless trash be my guest and go play the chink version of PoE, or literally any korean mmo, or diablo 4 lmao.
sorry but not letting people log directly into their hideout turns poe into souless trash.
this is fact and can not be refuted.
automated bot-infested trade that devalues all the loot, loot pets that devalue the currency, pay to win practices that devalue the grind, etc, etc. the CN client is fricking soulless chinkified garbage to milk brainless bugs. you may as well just play diablo 3 at that point since at least the controls are silky smooth while you're grinding for worthless "loot"
>automated bot-infested trade
Just like the rest of the world's trade site!
Also stash tabs are a form of pay-2-win, btw
the bots i trade with in poe tell me
>ty glhf
and they never complain. they are based and courteous.
>anything that can possibly assist players or improve the experience makes it soulless trash
who would have thought that casualizing a game so that even morons can play it would turn it into a game for morons? truly nobody could have predicted this.
add mommy boss
INARIUSBROS?!?!?!?!
WE CANT FRICKIN COMPETE
I hope she comes back in DLC as a romance option.
POE already did it first
D2 did it before them with Andarial
And then they censored her in 4
LOL
ok
What not to do
PoE is P2W, so they clearly strayed into "what not to do" before Diablo 4 did.
No because people forgive blizzard but GGG isn't going to get the same grace and motherfrickers have been watching GGG frick their first game over for too long to want to frick with them again.
combat that doesn't devolve to single button gameplay. Even D4 at the very end winds up that way, one button clears screens instantly and other button teleports you to the next pack so you can one click them away gets old fast
Just having simple combos of skills or techs that need to be initiated before you one click the pack away would be an improvement, with mobs that don't obliterate you for not one tapping them before they one tap you
The only way to do that is to completely remove blinks from the game and any movement boosting stats and gear
By not making a game that shits itself to death when you want to hard content
It does feel good making the FPS drop with your build but its still unoptimized garbage
How about not letting your entire game market be controlled by a single Discord
I know GGG are lazy fricks but come the frick on
I WILL play PoE 2
I WILL enjoy PoE 2
I WILL have fun with new builds
and there's NOTHING you can do to stop me
D4 is shit. PoE has been shit since Expedition. I don't expect this to do some 360 and turn the game around just because it has a new campaign, something we've been sick of fricking doing for years now.
PoE2 is far from just a new campaign.
They should have made the third-person soulslike game Diablo 4 was supposed to be before they changed it into Diablo 3.5
Too late now though, it's confirmed top-down slop.
Who cares about PoE 2, I'm more interested in the new Dungeon crawler Souls like game that they will tease on Exilecon.
The what now?
Tambout sanctum?
>diablo 4
>success
>literally the best game released this year
blizzgod did it again
*until PooE2
chris is quitting ggg just to become a full d4 player
ITS OVER
Nobody is left playing D4 though...? Normal people quit, grifters quit until S1 where they'll quit once sponsorship money dries up.
And Chris actually hates D4. He's already back playing D2.
>Nobody is left playing D4 though...?
i mean they sure as frick not playing poe lmao
steam is about half of poe's numbers so apparently 32k people are still playing poe. pretty impressive for a 3 month old dead league, especially give that it was one of the worst league mechanics in their history.
what's dilator 4's concurrency looking like these days? surely they're not hiding important statistics like that from the public?
daily reminder, poe peaked on steam because D4 beta was so good people wanted more and left after realizing the game was just a more autistic version of d2
>poe Black person
>bad with numbers
imagine my shock
>Still wouldn't surprise me if that's more than D4.
actual mental moronation
the game that sold 10 million copies has less than 14k players after 1 month, sure moron
I kind of doubt anyone who only tried poe after the d4 beta had played diablo 2 before
how much do you get paid to anti-shill blizzard's competitors? i want in.
He does it for free.
Still wouldn't surprise me if that's more than D4.
D4 isn't great but goddamn Gankeriggers like you are straight up DELUSIONAL
have an endgame.
have an auction house.
If PoE 2 comes out with acts 1-10 and one new boss, It will be just as dead as Diablo IV
it can learn a lot from quests, especially side-quests, those are really fun in diablo 4
TWO CAMPAIGNS!!!
>kitava acts will be meta still because the new ones are designed to be slower
>spend 30 minutes on the trade site to run one juiced map
>every deterministic crafting method is an accident and removed by the end of the league
>over 70% of builds are less than 10 main skills, over 50% of players are 3 ascendancies
>still doing betrayal safehouses and legion events in 2030
ONE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>kitava acts will be meta still because the new ones are designed to be slower
Skill issue
>spend 30 minutes on the trade site to run one juiced map
Skill issue
>every deterministic crafting method is an accident and removed by the end of the league
Skill issue
>over 70% of builds are less than 10 main skills, over 50% of players are 3 ascendancies
Skill issue
>still doing betrayal safehouses and legion events in 2030
Skill issue
You're bad.
I like how you're trying to portray this chart as bad when in reality Crucible had the highest playercount of any league by a big margin AND Crucible is one of the shittiest league mechanics they've made in ages
goes to show you just how bad diablo 4 was that so many refugees flooded path of exile and enjoyed it, even during a terrible league.
Thats because the current league mechanic has minimal impact on first time players. They are trying out every mechanic for the first time
it also lost the most players of any expansion in history and had the third lowest retention, Bexsimp
the new acts are designed to be faster, mr wilson specifically said he thought the current campaign is a bit slow
>the new ones are designed to be slower
pretty sure they said the new acts will probably be the faster of the two once people get the hang of them.
>spend 30 minutes on the trade site to run one juiced map
skill issue
>every deterministic crafting method is an accident and removed by the end of the league
blatant lie
>over 70% of builds are less than 10 main skills, over 50% of players are 3 ascendancies
another lie, not just in terms of the actual verifiable ladder but also the fact that there are no stats covering the entire active playerbase of tens of thousands (hundred of thousands if we're talking early league) outside those few hundred top ladder players.
>still doing betrayal safehouses and legion events in 2030
if you want, yea, the option is there. are you complaining about the game offering more optional content?
NTA but GGG should retire some league mechanics. The game has enough bloat and it only gets worse over time they should bring back Sentinel though, the best league they've done in years
>bloat
YOU CAN BLOCK CONTENT YOU FRICKING moron
I know that, you fricking moronic gorilla.
It still doesn't change the fact that a large number of core leagues are shit quality and should be rotated out since GGG obviously can't rework them without ruining them.
*YOU*
*CAN*
*BLOCK*
*CONTENT*
JUST DON'T DO THEM YOU FRICKING MORON
how much do they pay you to spam this damage control every thread? I certainly hope you're not doing out of your own volition. Game's full of shit, you can't and shouldn't have to block so much out of the game in order for it to just be enjoyable. Having to resort to 3rd party webpages and software in order to do something as basic as trading is also bloat btw. Kindly stfu and/or gtfo.
>he's too fricking moronic to block a node
Go BACK to Dilator 4 you fricking monkey
>too stupid to use the game's own mechanics to customize xir's preferred playstyle
>thinks people who aren't morons must be shills
perhaps something that handholds casual morons is more your speed. i wonder if there are any "arpgs" like that on the market right now?
they do retire mechanics now and then. I still miss perandus. personally I think harbinger is boring as frick and should be retired, its valuable currency shard drops moved to the core pool, and its league uniques relegated to diviniation cards.
sentinel was basically just playing standard with a "press x to loot explosion" button twice per map. in terms of content it was even worse than crucible which is already borderline standard league, but a lot of people loved senty for some reason.
Sentinel was good because it wasn't a moronic mechanic that forced you to stand still or interact with some dumbass gambling nonsense. It was just a way to juice a map to a much higher level that flowed perfectly with normal gameplay.
It also introduced recombinators which were the single best crafting item GGG ever made.
speaking of recombobulators, did ggg change their mind about removing those from the game? I have literally hundreds of them I still need to sell on standard before (if?) that happens and I noticed they're going for like 1div apiece now.
Any you had got moved to standard but they cannot drop any more.
Whatever you have with you is all that will ever exist in standard.
I know where they are. I mean that ggg stated at the end of sentinel league that they would not be making it core and that recombobs would eventually be removed from the game entirely, so use them while you still can. did they forget about that?
Simple flow chart for any question about PoE:
>is it fun?
>yes - it's getting removed
>no - it's staying
>40% falloff by the end of the first week
BFR's game is bussin!
>TWO CAMPAIGNS!!!
Why are they even doing this shit instead of just making their player mtx inventory database accessible to PoE2?
All it means is they are going to be stuck with dumb design constraints and massive bloat on release.
>instead of just making their player mtx inventory database accessible to PoE2?
do you think they're not doing this? half their dev time is going to making sure all the mtx fits all the new character models and animations.
>PoE2 will add a second campaign
>To a game where the most popular strategy by far is to rush through the campaign as fast as possible so you can play the actual game in maps.
>Ruthless Black folk coping that actually it's more fun this way, despite how much le hekkin streamerinos seethed and malded when the race event was Ruthless only.
>It took months for players to kill pinnacle bosses, and the overwhelming majority of them used explodey totems anyway.
Chris won.
i really like the campaig nin poe
i never played maps
i just did story acts and then quit
it has really good voice acting and good concepts
I enjoy the first half of PoE's campaign.
Adding the rest of the acts was a mistake though. Malachai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shitava
have memory leaks and remove features while just making underpowered classes have bigger numbers instead of fixing their core flaws like not being able to command minions or not letting them keep aggro for some reason
bro your predator? your meat shield? moron
diablo 4 doesn't have that, moron
they made it more like diablo 4 so you don't get predator or meat shield
in fact they actually REMOVED the ability to command skeletons from Diablo 3 to diablo 4, the least they could have done was make decompose, an attack that can increase the damage the skeletons do to an enemy make them target that enemy
What will the cope be when d4 s1 has more day 1 players than the past 3 poe leagues put together
No one is hyped for s1 you fricking homosexual
Diablo 4's peak already happened
what will the cope be when d4, created by a $70 billion company, fades into obscurity, while a 10+ year old game made by a company ~1/70th of their size keeps on being more culturally relevant and growing its base.
GGG is crashing and burning thanks to the bald fat moron forcing his vision on everyone
>mfw people STILL believe what a bald habitual liar says
don't worry bro, Ruthless isn't PoE 2 XD XD XD
>actually dood there's 4 million people playing on the standalone client
They actually post concurrent player numbers. It's like a 60/40 split between steam and standalone.
D4 was okay. Needs a lot of work. I'll play some this season but mostly because I am killing time before BG 3.
Poe has sucked wieners since 3.15. Act 1 and 2 reworks were trash (and then BFR stopped and didn't finish any other act because they were simply meant to slow down racers and didn't work), leagues are all trash, and they're more concerned with loot boxes and Kirac pass than content.
That being said, PoE is still better than D4, somehow.
bro they've been developing a massive expansion for like two years. of course their B-team leagues have mostly been trash.
glad the propaganda worked on you!
dilator 4 is that boring huh?
yes, that is what I said glad you can read, moron!
yeah think of the poor ggg devs who drop leagues at the end of the day on friday then take the entire weekend off while their servers shit the bed until monday lmao
especially BFR, he's working so hard on poe2!!!
I've been playing since ultimatum and I've never had a headhunter or mageblood because I don't have autism, or luck. The closet I've gotten is LoK when I opened two apothecary from stacked decks. I ended up selling them to make a build then dropped the league right after.
shoulda massaged gwennen's breasts back when she actually gave out good stuff. i got a mageblood in scourge league in under 100 rerolls first week of league.
I've actually been rolling a ton in Gwennen's shop since expedition came out. Never really got anything worthwhile so I stopped using her starting this league.
>you're taking too long to grind and you're hitting the point where all of the crap you're farming is worth less and the belts are worth more
That's not exactly my problem I think. I play on console so I can't really reliably do a lot of money makers that work on PC since I there's not much of a market for scarabs, essences, and the like. So a lot of the money I make comes from getting lucky drops and selling them. There's a PoE content creator that plays on console and he mostly levels and corrupts enlightenments to make his money but the market is so small on console I can't realisticly do the same thing.
The game reached its peak before they added this dumb fricking prostitute into the game. She raped the passive tree into the brainlet state its in now. You only take passives in your starting class' area + 1 or 2 neighboring areas. Used to be the case you could freely move across and get as creative as you wanted to. Frick this dumb c**t.
Nah, now the endgame is just getting all the large cluster nodes around the exterior of the map.
Cluster Nodes are too powerful. People will pay real money to get good rolls on them too.
I know. This is even fricking worse. The optimal passive tree is just a fricking straight line to the edge, and then bordering around to grab israeliteels slots. That doesn't refute the point that pre-scion PoE was the best it will ever be at least when it comes to the passive tree.
Mageblood should be removed from the core game so that GGG is forced to actually fix flasks instead of just saying 'lmao just get a mageblood ;)"
Reminder.
Playing SSF or Private League is also an option.
Frick trade league.
It's the same game, but even harder to play any builds enabled by uniques.
I hate how nearly everything becomes worthless after a couple of days. Trading experience is also much worse than on private league or even HC.
I get my full build much earlier and easier so I quit the game sooner as well. I don't like doing 10 builds each league.
SSF just gets worse to play every league
What happened this league? I do 1-2 leagues each year to not get burned out on the game.
Both D4 and POE2 will be fine because ARPGgays are good little paypiggies that need their live service hit and turned ARPGs into solo/co-op MMOs.
They should both learn from Grim Dawn and TL2 how to not make a shit game
>want to play game to see if like
>Diablo 4
>$70 upfront, NO REFUNDS
>POE
>$0, buying stash tabs needed only after starting maps (eg. Endgame)
imagine spending your all your time defending a multi-billion dollar ESG corporation's heavily marketed live-service slop game #1773 FOR FREE lmao
Come home, white man.
go on sale for $20 and I will consider it.
This game is like digital melatonin.
that's grim dawn
No, it's Last Sleepoch.
Bought this, played this for about 30 minutes then literally fell asleep in my chair. Only good thing is that I woke up before 2 hours of having the game open passed so steam approved my refund. Dodged a bullet there.
Money status: Not Stolen
Needs like 2 more years in the oven
Already superior
Why are PoE autists so insecure?
>enter a thread for a game you don't like
>proceed to moronpost
>get called a moron
>WHY A-ARE YOU I-INSECURE?!!!!!
lmao
I do like PoE. I don't like PoE autists.
the game is dunning-kruger midwit magnet
calling them midwits (which is what they are) generates incredible seethe
this is one of the only times where they're being compared favorably to diablo
I watched Empyrian's video on shit that needs fixing in D4, and I hadn't played D4 (or D3), and it's actually fricking shocking the lack of quality of life in D4. I mean what the frick you're supposed to steal all the fricking shit PoE did right like a search bar, map overlay, and stash space not just fricking remake D2 with all the inconveniences and bullshit.
I remember when he got banned in D3
KEKW
He's been banned from pretty much every game he's played. People always balk when I tell them that the people at the top echelons of competition in everything are cheating their asses off constantly whenever they can get away with it, but Empy is a good example of it being the truth.
>Empy is a good example of it being the truth
he deserved streamer priority
>use an overly software to close the "ban" notification
>play as normal
fricking lmao
you realize that was a joke, right? He was mocking the botters using an OBS overlay
how dumb are you?
sorry I don't play your troonyablo games and I'm not a cheating Black person so I'm not familiar with what you're "jiving" about.
>I'm a stupid moron Black person
I already knew that
you don't have to play diablo. you just needed eyeballs and a brain, and you clearly watched the clip to comment on it
lmao idiot
>make minimum viable product
>release it
>add in all the QoL features that you had planned out over the course of the next 6 years
>fans eat it up because THEY FINALLY LISTENED TO US!!!!
Year after year I am just more and more convinced that the gaming industry works to stay in the stone age on purpose or that the computer software industry just doesn't teach kids the same way engineers are taught.
Because if you told an engineer that a basic feature that would save a combined million hours of player convenience and told them not to implement it until later, they would feel like quitting. Because that goes against their very existence. We already know GGG admits to the friction and that they're incompetent, we know nothing they do is up to spec in any other industry but I just can't fricking believe Blizzard is just as shit. Like of all the stupid fricking things Blizzard gets wrong I can't fricking believe that it can't fricking steal a search bar from PoE or knowingly remove the fricking map overlay.
This is what happens when your business is run by suits and MBAs
Will having a search bar sell the game to more people? No? Then frick it, put it at the bottom of the queue.
We've got shareholders to appease.
No, see, the suits and MBAs don't come down to that level. Not even the COO gives a frick about this degree of fine tuning I'm complaining about. They don't make the shareholder happy by giving a frick about the player sentiment, they make the shareholder happy by firing people or approving revenue mechanisms like MTX cancer.
Shit like omitting map overlay is the decision fricking director of the game and chief of UI and more often than not these are veteran coders, people who can fricking do the equivalent of stripping wires and welding steel. And it's these people who for some fricking reason just prioritized removing map overlay so players can what, fricking watch a fricking squirrel run up a tree, what some stupid townsperson sharpen a sword.
I don't fricking get it.
Never forghetti mum's sphagetti
WOODEN JOSEPH IS LIVING INSIDE MY WALLS
higher quality feet
Path of Exile is cringe and Path of Exile 2 will be extremely cringe. Stop shilling cringe games on Ganker.
>not a new IP
Path of Exile shill hanging out in a thread counting IPs. Thanks for demonstrating how cringe you are better than I ever could.
it says next to your post number. why are you bumping the thread just to say that? it was dying
It would be a trap to mimick d4, slightly nerdy normies are the target audience for d4, the game is made for that casual market and it shows, however that market only gets a few games a year. Would they try poe2 if it takes them ~weeks to finish d4's campaign? Probably not, they had their fill with d4 and are satisfied.
Poe thrives off of being the arpg for people who really want to grind their ass off playing it, its complicated systems, high variance drops and items and difficulty level are all things its niche is gravitated towards
>mass replying pajeet posts how they do it where he comes from
don't care, didn't ask, "sir"
pajeet spotted