for real. im watching The Wire right now and he doesnt sound right. like a bad imoression or something. tries to hard to sound baltimore-ian. it just sounda funny. also, he smacks his lips way too often and makes other gross mouth sounds.
>for real. im watching The Wire right now and he doesnt sound right. like a bad imoression or something. tries to hard to sound baltimore-ian. it just sounda funny. also, he smacks his lips way too often and makes other gross mouth sounds.
fun fact, McNulty is an Irish-American character played by an Irish actor doing an American accent as well
True. His fake accent sounded bizarre. Should've just used his real accent. An English sounding guy being an NUSA shill in the setting isn't particularly far fetched.
I don't know why they keep hiring real big name actors they obviously don't give a shit. Elba doesn't fricking care about some video game, its beneath him in his mind.
That was fine by me. The character didn't strike me as a particularly emotive person. He's a secretive guy who prefers that you know as little about him and what he is thinking as possible. Part of being a glowie probably.
exactly like keanu in the entire game
Keanu on the other hand should have been a bit more lively, being a narcissistic rock star with a chip on his shoulder.
It was alright. Characters like Reed who always keeps a constant tone to show that it's a character who's usually keeping his shit together don't let actors show their full range though.
This
Honestly I liked his performance
But for this kind of one note, serious business character, they should have went with Denzel Washington, everything he touches become pure kino
This, not a complaint on Idris but the Reed character should have been more interesting.
He should have arranged the sabotage of SF1, not Songbird. He should have been out for revenge, not being a good boy. He should have had a grander scheme, not just doing what he's been told. Here's what I'd suggest:
>Hansen is in talks with Arasaka to revitalise Dogtown >Reed knows this, is still undercover >Wants to keep Dogtown a shithole, a "haven" for soldiers >Plans to get NUSA and Dogtown fighting to do so >Takes down SF1 with a plan involving Alex, Songbird >Game plays out mostly the same >When Alex and Reed meet and pretend to be meeting for the first time it's an act to keep V out of the loop >The plan is to kill Myers, keep Dogtown from gentrifying, get Hansen killed >Songbird plans to keep Myers alive, trade her for a cure to her Blackwall Virus
It's not a good idea to draw attention to Dogtown and its relation to the rest of the world, people might notice that it's existence in absurd and the whole place would have been wiped out in hours.
Yes they would. In fact they'd have the most reasons to do so, especially when you consider nuclear fallout apparently just isn't a thing in the Cyberpunk universe.
The Nomad ending has this fun note where Panam shits herself realizing you're walking through the original Arasaka bombing crater and Saul is like "We're gonna die in five minutes anyway lol who cares"
They wouldn't because they're actively sending groups underneath Dogtown to research their old projects and recover their technology. They wouldn't want that getting into the hands of Arasaka or anyone else.
The whole time I was thinking that despite his hardened professional exterior, there's no way a tiny human part of him hadn't been building up hatred and resentment after 7 years, and it would eventually bubble up and crack. Turns out he really did just hold on to his ideals as his only way of life and had no will of his own remaining, which while fine is less interesting.
I dunno, I think having him as a man stuck in the past, that clinges to the 'oath' is better than revenge driven mastermind.
Especially seeing, how he unclenches his ass for the first time in the long, long time in the endings, where everyone but him die.
The 'burned spy being out for revenge' thing is pretty generic an idea though. I found it a fair bit more interesting that he stayed loyal/dutiful even after the betrayal he suffered, it makes him seem genuinely insane, just not in an overt raving lunatic way.
I dunno, I think having him as a man stuck in the past, that clinges to the 'oath' is better than revenge driven mastermind.
Especially seeing, how he unclenches his ass for the first time in the long, long time in the endings, where everyone but him die.
We weren't talking about 'cool' we were talking about 'interesting'
Burned spy is a 'cool' plot but its probably one of the first ideas anyone would think of when it comes to spy/government agent media.
I think they did sort of fumble the ball with Reed simply because his mental state didn't get that much focus, but the fact that he was this weirdly hollow man who didn't seem to really know or care how fricked up it is that he's still loyal to the person who threw him away like trash is an interesting concept. He's basically like a robot, just one who can act 'normal' and even sometimes warm and friendly.
i don't find it that strange. the FIA is their fricked up family in a world utterly devoid of any meaning or things worth fighting for. Reed clings to it because there's literally nothing else and the alternative would be to rot in dogtown.
8 months ago
Anonymous
> the alternative would be to rot in dogtown
There was literally nothing stopping him from leaving dogtown except for his dedication to his ‘duty’ and hoping that someday SOMETHING would come of it, rather than the thought he’d just been abandoned forever.
Alex had sort of the same deal, sticking it out undercover all this time, but even she’s better than Reed since she was able to decide concretely that she wanted out of the spy life for good after this mission.
something i really hated with PL was you save the president so fast
like shes just gone after a couple hours
you even get a safe house which you have no reason to use or ever go back to after the president gets smuggled out.
feels like such a wasted opportunity
yeah its a bit weird, once Reed said he got the president out over the phone I was just kind of like "oh... thats it?"
Would've been nice if you got a mission where you had to stealthily drive her out and/or go through a dialogue sequence where you had to persuade/coerce your way through some security checkpoint, sorta similar to the Nomad starting quest.
i thought we would have to smuggle her out through the wall like we did getting in
i was actually cringing because i was getting ready for an escort stealth mission which are 2 of the worse things in cp2077
or the mission where you switch between cameras and then guide an npc through a enemy filled maze
frick those missions
they are never ever good
the one later in the game with the sniper was "fine" because it was super short and very linear
>escort stealth mission which are 2 of the worse things in cp2077
The game is so casual about those that it's objectively better than classic games that actually "care" about them because plot critical allies are always
>invincible >teleport instantly to you >don't alert enemies themselves even when walking directly in front of them
It's lazy programming but it cuts the most famous pain in the ass from gaming so whatever
yeah its a bit weird, once Reed said he got the president out over the phone I was just kind of like "oh... thats it?"
Would've been nice if you got a mission where you had to stealthily drive her out and/or go through a dialogue sequence where you had to persuade/coerce your way through some security checkpoint, sorta similar to the Nomad starting quest.
It was bizarrely anticlimactic.
Like the whole opening act is "We're doing Escape From New York, I get it" but all of a sudden it's like Kurt Russel wins the basketball game and somebody just walks up to him and tells him "btw while you were fricking around with that we rescued the President offscreen"
Frick that, Reed should have been the secret ruler of Dogtown, the man behind Hansen. Kurt is the voice and the face, the Prime Minister, but Solomon is the king on the throne. >gets reactivated >at first Reed thinks he's finally been made, ready to faltline you at the basketball court >realizes "oh shit they don't know" >starts to play both sides >wants to get So Mi under his wing to get her way from Myers >not necessarily more virtuous in his own schemes involving her, but he does actually care about her, unlike Myers >So Mi wants to get away from all of them, still has her own angle to get away, still a stupid teenager move, maybe less CYBERHELL WHEEEEE in execution >siding with Reed means joining the Barghest upper ranks with Alex and So Mi >siding with Myers means being a NUSA boyscout and getting fricked in the end when they hand you over to Arasaka, who still want their Relic back, to prevent a war, mirroring Myers betraying Reed and showing you You Can't Trust The Corps, even the Federal ones
glad to hear someone thinks so, if nothing else the good ideas we come up with when we think "why didn't they just do this!?" is good material for one's one work.
Loved his look and clothes but his performance was not that special for most of it except for a few scenes like if you try to call him out for his shit.
Why does every triple A company waste money, time and effort on these pointelss celebrities in vidya? Is it really that much of a draw to morons?
Use the fricking money to make the shit game better instead
I really don't like how him and Keanu are obviously just in the game so they can say they got a super famous actor in.
There are tons of lesser known actors they could have gotten to play these roles but they picked some of the most immediately recognizable ones for a reason and it wasn't their ability to embody the characters.
Johnny Silverhand 2077 feels very much like he was built from the ground up for Keanu Reeves. Up to and including his engram being a huge Johnny Pneumonic reference.
>Johnny Silverhand 2077 feels very much like he was built from the ground up for Keanu Reeves.
True. Silverhand's role was originally intended to be way smaller, but after they got Reeves onboard they rewrote pretty much the entire game for him.
More like a secondary role with silverhand being alive by random radio line in that trailer even confirmed by devs that he was retire also the relics is mentioned even hellsman loose his shit that the relic has silverhand inside
More like a secondary role with silverhand being alive by random radio line in that trailer even confirmed by devs that he was retire also the relics is mentioned even hellsman loose his shit that the relic has silverhand inside
These are inferences you're making. We don't have anything on the narrative being anything but Johnny Pneumonic
He was the best part of phantom liberty and I aligned myself with him over the literal prostitute who throws temper tantrums and kills her friends just to get her way and lies all the way up to when she dies, in comparison to Reed holding onto his ideals no matter how stupid they are and his never betraying any characters. His voice work was also really and all the nigs saying he's 1 dimensional most likely didn't didn't initiate all the miscellaneous conversations you can have with him.
>baby, im going to hospital for an important life saving operation, but frick knows how long it will take >i will wait, honey
if only the game wasnt written by total motherfricking morons.
>be V, be dying from the Relic, got like 5 minutes left to live >bro its cool i can go around collecting 10 houses, 500 cars and do 9000 fetch quests >i got time
modern game writing really is something else.
>the iguana egg
the what? i finished the game yesterday, dont tell me i missed an animal i could have.
8 months ago
Anonymous
During the Heist, when you're in Yorinobu's penthouse looking for the relic, if you look left immediately after getting out of the elevator you see a terrarium with an iguana in it, and right behind the tree is an iguana egg that V can steal and bring to his apartment. Just puts it down in a small cup after the first chat with Takemura and says "Now we wait" even though Johnny is skeptic. After 90 ingame days you suddenly have an iguana (that's born fully adult lmao) that you can pet and Johnny then says "Aight you got me" and starts playing guitar every time you pet it.
8 months ago
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>Just puts it down in a small cup after the first chat with Takemura and says "Now we wait" even though Johnny is skeptic. After 90 ingame days you suddenly have an iguana (that's born fully adult lmao) that you can pet and Johnny then says "Aight you got me" and starts playing guitar every time you pet it.
thats wholesome, i totally missed it on all my playthroughs.
damn.
8 months ago
Anonymous
They added it in a later patch.
Also hope you know about Nibbles at least.
8 months ago
Anonymous
is that a cat?
dont tell me i missed having a cat in Cyberpunk?
8 months ago
Anonymous
You did. You can have a a cat AND an iguana. The cat is way easier though, just have cat food in your inventory and go left right outside of V's door. You'll find a cat food bowl and a message in the trash saying to feed it. You feed it, wait some hours, then go and pick it up and take it into your apartment.
8 months ago
Anonymous
well god damn, how the frick was i supposed to find that out by myself?
thats nuts, now i have to reload an old save to see the kitty and the iguana.
thanks for the tip, guys, ill try it right now.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>That's wholesome
8 months ago
Anonymous
kys
8 months ago
Anonymous
the iguana is making me think about sneaking back into Kompeki, but reaching the penthouse is fricking annoying
8 months ago
Anonymous
They’ve made it harder on each subsequent patch but it’s still doable. Honestly another example of poor game design, why put so much effort into a massive location like that and then lock it off never to be accessible again?
The Nomad ending is a 100% happy ending >you'll die in six months
Misty says you won't and for some bizarre reason her tarot bullshit is literally always right
You literally get told the time table and relay the info. Before you know it's too late it's already been the 2 years.
The real issue isn't you alerting anyone to your procedure. It's that at no point does anybody at Langley relay to next of kin, friends, or emergency contacts. But it's hard to put down a nomad with no address as an EC.
I don't know why Vik or Misty weren't informed or anybody.
The only credible is the nusa crippling you and says it was coma even reed was there when you awake
8 months ago
Anonymous
There is nothing to support the theory that the NUSA deliberately crippled you. Especially when it would be easier for everyone to believe you just up and died. These people kill without a second thought and you think they're just going to tap dance around the issue by crippling you?
8 months ago
Anonymous
> Beat the preaident in an optional stat check > She goes no russian or loose end at the spaceport > Reed sad face he always puts when lying
8 months ago
Anonymous
>She goes no russian or loose end at the spaceport
Again, they're more than willing to kill you. So why are you ignoring that you're literally between the dragon's teeth in the end of you hand yourself over?
8 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but because V would also be hella useful for information on Night City and it's underground so offering them a cushy desk job in Langley after making sure they'll never ever be a threat is just a double win.
8 months ago
Anonymous
He's right in that you ever waking up from the surgery is implausibly moronic given what happened to >the two bums that help you in the apartment building >the redheaded Frenchies >Reed him fricking self in the train car seven years ago
8 months ago
Anonymous
did those two guys get killed, I completely forgot about them and the fact that V even had a hideout in Dogtown.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Reed texts you that he took care of them, giving them a bunch of eddies and moving them to a nice farm upstate where they can play and frolic
I mean the events of phantom liberty take place completely apart from your chooms. You can tell judy and panam "yo im doing some insane shit with the secret service and the prex" and theyll be like wow thats wild keep me updated. But from a story perspective it's not unheard of the government doesnt inform anyone. Also because theyre all in night city and none of their business
>But from a story perspective it's not unheard of the government doesnt inform anyone
Reed knew, had the capability to contact people and wasn't restricted from doing so.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah but character wise it isnt that strange he'd be hesitant to. Both because of your personal relation and him feeling like he let you down and didnt come through with his promise as the fact that contacting them would make him relive the events of the operation and what happened to somi again. That's why your character is such a lil b***h when you wake up.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Reed is toothless by the end. The fact that he can't even bullshit something like "Hello, Dr. Vik? This is Dr. Bell at the Mayo Clinic. We have you listed as an emergency contact for our patient. The treatment is taking longer than expected and is in a very delicate position. We have to induce a coma and monitor his vitals as we work to chisel away at the engram safely. We unfortunately have to ask you from refrained visitation, as he's technically under surgery at all hours."
He plays the same character in everything he is in. Stoic badass
Only in Three Thousand years of Longing did he prove to me that he was more than an action star.
Its a movie
He was a Genie and a consort of Queen of Sheba. King Solomon was the guy fricking Sheba and Genie got jealous. He was caught by Solomon and bottled up
Nope the only good its the city artstyle design and the fact you can take elevators and doors without loading screens
the city looks really good, but other than that the game is still a total disaster.
especially the NPC's, holy fricking shit. >they still move in only 4 directions, left, right, straight, back
when they change directions, they just teleport 90 degrees left, right.
frick me, holy shit, this would look outdated in GTA 3. >10,000 fast food vendors around the city
cant use even 1.
thats not normal, shitty unfinished products need to be criticised, you are exactly why get get 100$ games that are 10% finished and need 3 years of patches and DLC's to be playable.
kys.
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the city looks really good, but other than that the game is still a total disaster.
especially the NPC's, holy fricking shit. >they still move in only 4 directions, left, right, straight, back
when they change directions, they just teleport 90 degrees left, right.
frick me, holy shit, this would look outdated in GTA 3. >10,000 fast food vendors around the city
cant use even 1.
I'm actually disappointed with how good double jumping is
Almost every block of the city has roofs just the right height or conveniently placed dumpsters/fences/etc. so that as soon as you buy the double jump implant you can parkour anywhere
It must have been countless hours of programming effort to make that the case
And there's absolutely nothing to parkour to
There's no reason to not just fast travel everywhere instead
High-level parkour really revealed how absolutely unfinished the city is. Before they patched out Kerenzikov super-jumping I put some hours into really exploring, my findings:
>although most rooftops in the base game are accessible, after a certain point a few stories up no effort made to detail them; no dirt, no trash, no furniture >past a certain level you’ll find fire escapes and balconies very high up in the city populated with NPCs, seemingly serving no purpose, nothing to interact with in the environment around them >the city has a complete metro overhead train system as seen in the early trailers, the stations are accessible but unfinished internally and externally >the Militech compound at Corpo Plaza has an unfinished interior it was possible to glitch into at one point
I think my biggest disappointment with Night City was how bereft of interior spaces the whole map was. Even other CDPR games did this better, Beauclair in Blood and Wine has a shocking amount of accessible buildings with things to find in them, often with unique interiors that give, if nothing else, the sense of a real, living city and the lifestyles and habits of the people who live there. It might not be an exaggeration to say that Mankind Divided, with its miniscule Prague hub and Golem City, has more to explore than Night City which is more like a film set facade than a functional city.
>Game is gradually revealed to not be an RPG at all, closer to Borderlands than anything >Decide to play it two years after release hoping for at the very least to get Far Cry in a sandbox city, but hopefully with the tone and worldbuilding of Deus Ex >The shooting mechanics and A.I. are worse than the original Far Cry and the inventory management is fricked as well as bugged, along with everything else in the game >mfw if it ran perfectly with zero bugs and at 120fps it would still be one of the worst shooters on the market, and an anthesis to RPGs
Shoulda seen it coming after the abortion that was The Witcher 3, but Christ at least that game had some likeable sections. The tutorial area has more atmosphere than the entirety of Night City, which is just frick, frick, sex, frick, eating ass, frick, frick, gringo, city wok, frick shit, b***h, breasts, wieners, man wieners, female wieners, male veganas, cybermeth, frick, wiener, hot wieners in buttholes, neuroscience b***h, lesbians, and bypassing compressors.
Game is not even worth rating. It's irrelevant to the genres it inhabits as well as the ones it claims to, and to the medium as a whole.
Even better >you have a secret option to kill Myers during the rescue mission and before Songbird goes offline >it unlocks the whole different route for PL
In an objective way, they pretty much are. However from a human perspective, the AIs behind the Blackwall are pretty much literal demons, not software "daemons" but actual extradimensional horrors.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Delamaine is basically a Blackwall AI.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Mind you, an illegal immigrant.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, OG Delamaine is way more restricted than a Blackwall AI. Delamaine after doing his questline and merging all the other AIs into him is a lot like a newborn Blackwall AI though, which is exactly why he immediately fricks off. If he was a proper Blackwall AI he would never have been allowed to operate within the city and Netwatch would've been all over his ass.
8 months ago
Anonymous
One reddit theory I saw mentioned that Del split because of contact with V which prob shouldnt happen if he was a BW AI
8 months ago
Anonymous
Or because V is infected with whatever shit was in Sandra in prologue, which clearly has a connection to NightCorp, thus to Mr. Blue Eyes, and to Blackwall AIs. I still think that sending Somi to him was a shit idea.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Delamaine is way more restricted
Lol in what way? He was commissioned to just help with paperwork, and eventually he pushed out the entire human staff, drove all the cars himself and took over the taxi company, renaming it after himself.
8 months ago
Anonymous
For one, he doesn't seem to have access to the net, or only in a very limited way. He just controls his cars, and not even those if he loses the signal. If he was a proper AI he's have no need to hire some random gonk to chase down his missing cars.
The Canto is cool but I thought it was really underwhelming by the time I got it, which was around level 56 or so. By then hitting most regular enemies with an Overheat quickhack would be enough to one shot them and costs less RAM than Blackwall Gateway.
It doesn't have enough quickhack slots, it has a shitty RAM count, which makes Blackwall Gateway only a good choice to use during overclocks. BG also has a really slow upload time. It feels like it's got too many trade offs when it's meant to be a superweapon you can only get once per playthrough.
>60mag size >4 bullets per shot >insane dmg >avada kedavra nonboss enemies when they low hp >looks like a fricking professional camcorder
who the frick works in Midnight Arms?
i guess hes not as wooden as Kevin Conroy got in his later roles, that fricker sounded like a sound board in last 10 years
but still, his Elbas performance made me sleepy
To show just how far you've fallen. In the main game, those buttholes wouldn't even have registed as enemies on your radar, they'd just be meaningless NPCs. But after losing every advantage you had, even background NPCs can be a real threat. It' illustrates that living in NC as a regular person is dangerous even if you're not having daily shootouts with gangoons and corpo security.
Ok but >Give up the money-get beat up >Tell him to frick off-get beat up >Fight back-get beat up harder >Pass speech check-get beat up
Really kills my immersion
It is night city. The weak are meat to the slaughter, especially to gangs and corpos. How many civilians did you accidentally kill and, supposedly, you're a more stable guy than some crackpot.
It's really fun on PS5 with the haptic controller, turn the slider to full haptic feedback and it feels amazing. First person driving in the not bugatti, best view, along the motorway and then it starts to get foggy at night, feels so fricking good.
>Alt says the tech is still not advanced enough for blackwall AIs to take over human bodies >except it is, see the Relic which does exactly that, and maybe even Peralezes, and some cyberpsychos, especially maelstroms
???
>the Relic which does exactly that
The relic isn't an AI, it's just writing one human mind over another. >Peralezes
They were never taken over by anyone, that's just old-fashioned mental conditioning. >cyberpsychos >maelstroms
Being driven insane is something entirely different from your mind being taken over by AI.
>The relic isn't an AI, it's just writing one human mind over another.
Kek what? The engram is an AI. Ask Alt herself. It's basically 'saka trying to digitalize humanity. Just like V becomes an AI that takes over his/her own body in all default endings except for Temperance and the Devil if you refuse the soulkiller contract.
>They were never taken over by anyone, that's just old-fashioned mental conditioning.
Remember the color of brain-washing screens in their house. Remember So Mi losing her memories due to constant contacts with the blackwall. Remember what Alt has to say if you encountered Cynosure in PL. Remember that Mr. Blue Eyes is a "human". Why make a puppet politician when you can take over the body?
It kinda worked because first time playing PL, I couldn't tell what the frick side he is on especially after Slider when he mentions he would have killed him after.
yeahhhh it does lend to that. the game is yelling at you the whole time not to trust reed/the fia.
so when he finally does open up at the end and it turns out his whole thing of: >I care so much V, Also im too professional to talk about it.
is actually true. it feels... not anticlimactic but, I dunno. `
since they confirmed that there were working on the sequel I hope to fricking god they don't base the story around one celebrity again. if you're gonna put a celebrity make it one quest or Easter egg but fricking putting Keanu as the main draw takes away resources from aurally making the game better
I find it ridiculous how better Reed's route is in comparison to Songbird's in terms of dev efforts. They even added totally-not-alien-isolation in it kek.
For me, it's Reed route, mercykill So Mi, and a canon ending with my cute wife Militech Canto
And that dialogue with Johnny in your apt if you go this route was pure kino
Frick Reed, frick Myers, frick Alex, and frick the NUSA. I saved songbird because Reed was a stubborn dog for the NUSA aka Militech. Songbird is a liar, a murderer, and a frick up, but she could save us down the line far better than Militech or Arasaka. Also Idris was good for the role, felt "in character".
>she could save us down the line
???? She's a WMD, and you just handed her to a guy who canonically conspires with rouge AIs.
Songbird gave us some preem tech from the Moon post game, proving she is grateful and not completely in the control of whoever saved her ass. Even if she cannot save us in time, we can find another way. >Daughterfu
That's Reed's angle. No, I saved Songbird because Jackie would.
Based, Reed's better off dead, he died 7 years ago when Myers burned him anyway. Songbird is also a piece of shit but I admired how far she was willing to go and like Johnny had a grudging respect for her in the end. I also think Idris did great playing his character, even if the role didn't demand much from him, he nailed the scenes where it mattered.
>"What would you do in my shoes, Johnny?" >get this answer
Now that the dust as settled, I'm glad they cast Keanu. I was very skeptical, and for good reason, seeing how it was on release. At the end of the day, though, it's a good story, and honestly? Probably the closest thing we'll get to a good Matrix game. >dodging bullets >kung fu punching in the stopped time >hacking shit with your eyes >dealing with wild AI shit >in the end gaining a normal life means losing all these super powers and going back to "the real world"
>old handset >V has been using a Holo since infancy, doesn't know how to interact with it >Johnny does the phone sign with his silver hand like "kids these days"
Great little moments like this really sell the setting.
such a tiny moment in the game but does such a massive amount to the character and the immersion
something i hated in the base game was they allowed you to essentially play the game out of order
so you would go from you and johnny hating each other to being best friends to not talking to dieing to being fine to hating to being best friends in the span of like an hour
it was awful
but phantom liberty fixed that by giving you 1 consistent v/johnny relationship the whole time
which is what the base game needed.
What difficulty did you anons play the game on, be honest. For me I played on Very Hard, until two moments where I lowered it to Hard for two of the boss battles as I was so fricking sick of getting one shotted, then upped it to Very Hard.
Hard. But I find the game itself unbalanced, lvl 60 V can be extremely broken depending on the build, while first like 20 levels on very hard are just frustrating. For new players, I'd recommend Normal really.
I stick to very hard. You need to optimize whatever build you are going for. You can always undo the yellow perks and move them if needed. Make sure your cyberware is upgraded as well. If your armor or mitigation doesn't keep up with the enemies it will get rough later on. Also, use cover.
im on very hard doing stealth run. ive also played the game a lot i only have moderate trouble with the dlc because i have no idea whats going on.
using sec cams to make marks commit sudoko is fun.
Well, I don't give a shit. The only thing the game is really lacking first and foremost is the ability to actually use/watch BD's. This feature shouldn't have been cut. If a player could do it, this game would have been considered the most genius and respectable title ever, because of all of you coomer degenerates.
TL;DR: Not giving people a way to coom has ruined the game's reputation.
>finish game >only found one iconic tech shotgun >700 iconic revolvers and pistols >look up a list of iconics to see what I missed >nope there's only one in the entire game
very good loot distribution!
>get expansion >cat missing >cats shit in apartment still >weapon wall doesnt work >egg missing >havent played in a long time maybe i forgot it >break back into the plaza >no egg
ive played through like 8 times im not starting over again
He's pretty good. I like that Elba plays Reed as sounding reasonable and even somewhat warm/casual once you've known him for a bit longer, kind of helps to obscure the fact that he's also sort of a nutcase given how unerringly loyal he is to his duty/position, even after all the shit he went through. Kinda similar feel to Myers when you first meet her, they both speak in a way that makes you want to lower your guard with them, even though they'd both kill you without any hesitation if they decided you were a 'liability'
He's not really a nutcase, he's just really loyal to his ideals and good at lying to himself to reconcile the discrepancies between what his superiors should be doing and what they're actually doing. He and Songbird are opposites, in a way: Reed is a responsible and sincere man who's in total denial about what he's doing, while Song is a selfish liar who does ultimately realize where her choices have taken her.
pretty shit most of v are paid cd pr shills so I complained about it and got banned for 4 days for "racism" for pointing out they didn't even bother getting mocap for him and made this stupid mopey frowning face that looked like a 8 year old emoting after his mom said he can't have a candy bar at the store
his voice acting was rushed and shit quality too It reminded me of eso when they paid Alfred molina to come back and voice and it was such 0 effort phoned in voice acting . Ibis was exactly like that but that was his first time and he never did better
I found some of his acting to be iffy and some to be good. I think going full Mocap and doing a heavy American accent probably fricked his performance up a bit.
Pretty meh. I can see what they were going for but some aspects of the ending feel kinda contrived, like the writers were forcing it into being more depressing and isolating in a way that didn’t really feel natural.
Not only that you have no ending with the asiatic besides datamine leak showing dialogue altered in the devil ending and v mentioning the arasaka ai rape station
Beacuse he's black and it's more easier for someone that didn't play the game to say "Black person Black person Black person" than actually contribute.
He's saying that after completing the Reed path, the critical final decision is recapture Songbird vs euthanize Songbird, Reed has mixed feelings but accepts either decision, while killing her does lock you out of the NUSA cuck ending
Reed never has mixed feelings. All that matters to him is that she isn't dead regardless of state or freedom. You can try challenging it but he doesn't even get upset, basically he cannot comprehend why not being dead is worse than being dead.
my main concern is that i wanna do the dlc earlier this time to get the reed iconics and then return to the real game and use them
so i just wanna pick the ending that doesn't lock me into one of the new dlc endings
if neither do it then i'll probably let songbird live cause who cares
The game never insta-ends. If you fulfill all the requirements to get the surgery, you can choose to get it then and there, or you can wander off. And when you're at the rooftop before the Arasaka assault there's still a "Wait frick it, I'll call Reed" option.
domestic terrorists like the voodoo boys want to either harness or destroy the blackwall to not only communicate with AI's but also use them for personal gain.
In their galaxy brain assumption that the super AIs would even need them once they're back from beyond the Wall. From we can see with Mr. Blue Eyes, Lilith, and all the shit that got hitched to Songbird, they won't.
You know the end of the base game where Alt starts melting everybody's eyeballs or the end of the Songbird route where Songbird starts melting everybody's eyeballs
Now imagine that happening everywhere
To everyone
Forever
A large number of the things beyond the Blackwall are just Warhammer tier murderhobo psychos because of the RABIDS virus of 2023
There are too many entities there that would melt everyone's eyeballs because they thought it was funny
Alt callously murders so many fricking people and she's objectively one of the most benevolent and empathetic Blackwall creatures
the blackwall is an AI that keeps rogue AIs from infecting the rest of the net and destroying everything.
the rogue AIs are basically digital WMDs, releasing them would result in another collapse of the net and everything that relies on it.
It's like Bell Direct Modem Launch doing his Marvel Dr. Strange voice, it's weird at first but you get used to it.
I'd honestly rather they just wrote him to be european like the twins and let him do his native accent, but eh. It's fine.
>im-fricking-plying
Hansen is nothing compared to Kurtz. Kurtz was a man who had been broken utterly by the horrors of war, Hansen is just a career criminal with a military background. He says himself he dropped the flag so he could do his business. The NUSA is nothing but a Militech umbrella, and Hansen nothing but a rogue Corpo.
It's hilarious to me that people see the Arasakas, the literal imperial family of Japan, as "CORPO CORPO," but turn around and call Myers president and suddenly it's "OORAH USA! USA! USA!"
Myers is sympathetic and is a person you can sit down and talk to, Goro is the same. Saburo isn't.
All the characters are glowBlack folk, but the black man has some shred of honor and actually helps you.
>Myers is sympathetic and is a person you can sit down and talk to
t. never did Reed->kill Songbird route
If anything Takemura is much closer to Reed, but more emotional and human
I did. The interaction with her giving you 5000 eddies was great.
I meant the same as in they're both great characters that can come across as sympathetic even if their morals are questionable.
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I'm not sure in which universe Myers is sympathetic since she obviously represents the worst of humanity, and that even an AI would've been more humane than some corpos.
8 months ago
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Same universe where you can watch the sopranos or better call saul and still enjoy the show and like the characters.
Myers is a politician through and through. That was the whole point of her character. She turns on the charm offensive when she needs you to get her out of Dogtown, she doesn't give a shit about you after that. The ending where you kill Songbird shows this the best. She also gets Reed to off-screen kill the two guys who stay at your hideout. The second anyone stops being useful to her they're considered disposable trash.
>She turns on the charm offensive when she needs you to get her out of Dogtown, she doesn't give a shit about you after that.
Hm, just like songbird isn't her. Ambitious, manipulative and doesn't give a shit about others.
It's almost as if they're all glowBlack folk, and yet reed is the one that actually helps you when you could've simply been discarded.
But she actually bothers to keep her word which makes her better than Hanako at least.
Also I guess I don't have as negative an opinion on Myers and Reed because Barghest killed the two mercs in my playthrough right before I got back to the hotel.
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>Barghest killed the two mercs in my playthrough right before I got back to the hotel.
Same thing that happened for me, maybe it's because he told them to leave ? I wanted them to stay because the alternative would obviously be killing them.
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I think there's three outcomes with those guys, but they die in all of them. >Let them stay. Reed kills them off-screen after Myers promises them cars and cash. >Kick them out. They're killed by Barghest. >Kill them yourself in the hideout.
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I had a different outcome; get tailed by Barghest when meeting Reed and you'll have a big chase back to the hideout where the two of those guys will already be killed by Barghest. Turns out they were actually true to their word and try to protect Myers.
8 months ago
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How you get tailed?
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I'm not sure. Was either me getting caught by a security camera in the abandoned subway when escaping with Myers, or fricking off to do a bunch of sidequests before meeting Reed. There's a line where V guesses that Barghest must've caught them on metro cams, but I'm not sure exactly what that refers to.
You do realise that’s all a front, right? Myers is a soulless manipulative freak just like basically every other politician.
She can just hide it well by pulling that ‘nah man I’m the COOL HIP president, let’s sit down and have a brewski!’ persona in front of gonk mercs like V.
She's still likable, moron. Open a fricking dictionary and look up the meaning of sympathetic. Or are zoomers incapable of thinking of anything outside of value judgments ?
terrible, the whole story was boring and the "twist" was so lame and obvious. I shot that homie with zero hesitation. Overall though the DLC was good, dogtown mogs the rest of the areas in the game
Did anyone else realise that Phantom Liberty is basically just a retelling of TW3's story?
You must find the strong female with interdimensional super powers. She can totally handle herself. But she's also in danger so we have to save her and make sure she's safe, etc.
Thinking more about it the more I think this is right. >So Mi is obviously an analogue for Ciri >Reed is Geralt with his strong paternal feelings towards So Mi. >Myers is Emhyr, desperate to get her hands on So Mi without really caring about her. >Hansen is the Bloody Baron.
necromancy is some really fricked up shit. The practitioners always excuse it as though they're just reanimating an "engram" of the person, not the person themselves, but either way they're bringing something back into existence and making it suffer, for their own selfish interests. No good.
Once I started the dlc, it starts me off with a stealth section I have to stealth. Implying I can't just walk through the front door with my lvl 50 body/reflex/technical build.
So I stealth through after wasting an hour fighting infinitely respawning armies of cops/maxtac. >killing maxtac doesn't get you shit btw, they just spawn another team after you kill the last member of the last team >I thought the last one would at least drop the helmet, turns out you romance Judy to get it instead
Coolest helmet in the game, and I cucked myself out of getting it before I even started the game. I fricking hate what cdpr's become.
Anyway.
After the stealth section it railroads you for a while.
Finally get free access to the fancy new district, and it's just a few blocks. The merc group or whatever that's policing there is practically identical to the regular police, they even end up calling the same maxtac team.
They added vehicle missions that suck dick, cause they center around the terrible frickin car controls. It's one thing if you're just riding around in a decent car running from police for shits. Vehicle missions always make you drive slow, clunky pieces of shit, like every time. You're always gonna get attacked by multiple cars. They're always gonna catch up to you, cause you're driving trash, and they're always gonna junk your car, cause you're stuck using pistols/smgs, so hope you happened to build your character around those. Then that esl Hispanic handler will always shit on you over the phone, cause you're never gonna deliver a car to him unscathed or within the time limit like he wants cause it's impossible.
Anyway.
So I start another mission.
It railroads me so frickin hard for so long, it starts ending and starting story missions in the middle of dialogue. It literally forces me to do like 3 or 4 missions in a row.
Only notable thing was that there was a boss that would've been really cool but they made as lame as possible.
(1/?)
Because some morons polski hide it for female v dyke budi romance nit joking why that b***h has max tac gear must be one of the most stupid shit of the game
You have to fight a huge spider tank.
I'm up for it. The new airdashes give you a lot of mobility, and I'm tanky enough I can tank a few hits from a direct assault to this thing before I need to airdash to cover to hit some healing.
First phase you're not allowed to do damage. It's literally covered in god mode armor that nothing will penetrate.
So you have to do this embarrassingly scripted chase sequence.
Wait for a frickin elevator while the thing moronicly shoots at your somehow impenetrable stone wall cover.
Then you don't get on the elevator and just crash through the floor.
The fall fricks up the tank to the point where it can finally be damaged, but it's legs get crippled, so it turns into a giant turret in the center of a big room surrounded in cover.
They want you to take turns cover shooting this thing in between its shots...
I couldn't think of a lamer way to fight this boss if I tried.
So I just abuse my sandevistan, jump on this things head, and spam melee on it like Leon knifing el gigante in re4 till it dies.
Worst boss I've fought all year.
Then it rail roads you and rail roads you.
There's a part where you get golden opportunity after golden opportunity to bang the president of the united states, and you don't even get any flirty dialogue options. Wouldn't want anything actually kinda cool to happen in our big premiere spy thriller expansion.
As soon as I got my freedom back, I went around grinding gigs and CIPs, already pretty much have everything from the relic tree that I wanted. Any other points are just gonna go into a dump tree I haven't min maxed, like cool.
Dropped it shortly after. Never got to Idris.
Bet it's another shitty performance like Keanu's where they do nothing but try too hard to make him cool.
They need to stop with the holywood sidekicks. God knows how much budget they eat, and then all their work just goes to self masturbatory cinematic drivel that adds nothing but universally unwanted context to the gameplay.
>THEY DON'T WANT ME IN THE CITY AT NIGHT >THEY DON'T WANT ME IN THE CITY AT NIGHT >IT'S MY CITY AND IT MIGHT GET SHITTY >AND IT MIGHT GET GRITTY IN THE MORNIN' LIGHT
>Dies in one shot
Still pissed we didn't get to face off with him properly if you side with Songbird. Meanwhile siding with Reed you get to face off against Kurt, MaxTac, play hide and seek with a robot. You get Erebus/Militech Cantos Mk.6. It's like they WANTED you to side with Reed.
Sex scenes aren't even worth it in this, they're mass effect tier where they just fade in and out of black with awkward animations. They're actually worse cause the only perspective you get is pov.
I was playing BG3 the other night, gettin some from Minthara, and it's just well produced porn just shy of showing actual insertion/fluids.
Because nusa doesnt offer nothing to me and she was the carrot stick of the dlc knew that the ice will be useless after that crappy statement of idris of gluing that shit inside V face
>try to use quickhacks on him when he appears >can't because... >YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO OUR EPIC DIALOGUE AND PRESS THE QTE TO WIN!!!
The spaceport attack was way cooler than all the set pieces in the Reed route. Not sure why people think it's good. >erebus/canto
So underpowered and trash they are easily outclassed by non iconics.
Because why would you ever side with Songbird? It's such a monumentally stupid decision on every level.
>he picked the simp route
lmfao >The spaceport attack was way cooler than all the set pieces in the Reed route.
honestly agree, but not a good enough reason to be a simp.
Anyone else find the story in the expanasion rather underwhelming? The trailers made me expect something grander (they involved teh fricking president after all) and more elaborate. But it felt somewhat hollow. >Songbird is lying to you! >But not really! >Actually, she is! >Wait, she's not!
And so on. It's not like you care either way because you're distrustful of her from the get go. So no tension. And really, it's soured by the fact that the game introduces you to the president you bond with her in the intro, and then she's written off the very next second and you're sent off on a chase after her assistant you don't really care about. Talk about pulling the rug out from under the player.
>trailers made me expect something grander
choom.... Songbird being a dumb b***h poking holes in the Blackwall is way grander than muh political intrigue, at least it is in this fricking setting. DO NOT PLAY WITH STUFF THAT SHOULDN'T BE PLAYED WITH
>DO NOT PLAY WITH STUFF THAT SHOULDN'T BE PLAYED WITH
Holy cringe.
Myers makes her do everything you moronic troony. She is forcing her to do the blackwall shit and borged her. Do you fricking moronic Black person tards not pay attention to the story you're playing through?
tell me you didn't watch the (pretty long) Brooklyn flashbacks without telling me you didn't
the fricking b***h became a glowBlack personess because she WAS FRICKING PLAYING WITH BLACKWALL
There's nothing during those flashbacks that alludes to her screwing with the Blackwall at that time. At that point she's just a low-life netrunner starting to make a name for herself. Her boyfriend gets mad at her for spending too long in cyberspace and putting herself at risk of overheating, but that seems like it's par for the course when you're doing digicrimes and hacking into corpo networks. She talks about doing a big job, but that could be anything. Not necessarily Blackwall related.
She does a small thing with the blackwall and Reed says she needs to join the FIA or Netwatch will get her. In reality Netwatch would probably have recruited her as well. Meanwhile the little tiny poking of the blackwall she did that got so much attention was the reason Myers wanted her. Myers stuffed her full of experimental netrunning and blackwall piercing technology and made her do it over and over again to further Myers personal goals. Myers is the reason songbird is dying. Pushing constantly beyond the blackwall is what is killing her. Each time she does she loses memories and her nervous system breaks down.
The idea she poked a tiny hole in the blackwall when she was a teenager and that's what has been killing her ever since is a fan fiction that you've made up in your own head to excuse you sucking the federal governments wiener.
I definitely think the story was a bit of a rug-pull. All of the marketing was about going on a spy mission to save the president, but like you say, that part ends almost as soon as it begins. I get that the stakes were raised by Songbird's Blackwall frickery. But all of that stuff was done on Myers orders anyway. I feel like they could've done more with it. Like Hansen taking Myers hostage, threatening to expose her meddling with the Blackwall, with that having the potential to cause a new global war in addition to the looming threat of the AI's.
To be honest even after siding with Reed and killing Songbird I'm still not really sure how that resolved the threat of the AI's taking over. She was a Blackwall infused cyberpsycho who went on a tear through a decent portion of Night City. Surely whatever AI controlled her could've spread from that alone, having access to whatever connections she did. But apparently not, and shutting down the Cynosure core sets everything right.
I find government stooges even more discussing than corpos
there should have been option to drop him and that other one when they suddenly kill the the french c**ts
reed is just a fricking cuck and a dog to the spooks.
i am glad i killed him. what did i miss? evil skippy and just screaming suicide cyberdeck. worth it.
anyone try the all knife build? i feel like its a mouse and keyboard thing not the best on controller. but it seems strong. and i always end up gravitating towards nethacker builds so i wanted to try something new.
>don't care about songbird >shitty mary sue I can tell the writers expect me to fall in love with and trust implicitly >obvious she's betraying me >want to kill her and be done with this shit storyline >choose to side against her >she slaughters a stadium full of people (or not, none of them seem to be dead when you go back?) >tell her she's a loser every chance I get >finally get to her >kill her immediately >character breaks down weeping over the loss of his best friend songbird
wow, it's like I have no control over my character!
Because at that point the "I don't give a frick about you Songbird" option is to give her back to the FIA, killing her is the moronic sentimental simp decision where you do what she asks despite having no material reason to do so nor any reason to feel indebted to her at all.
her choice to become a criminal
her choice to join the federal government
her choice to down the president's plane and cut a deal with a warlord
but thank god for simps
crime
by the feds to commit crimes in their name >I AM PERSECUTED, SAVE ME MR. V
>don't care about songbird >shitty mary sue I can tell the writers expect me to fall in love with and trust implicitly >obvious she's betraying me >want to kill her and be done with this shit storyline >choose to side against her >she slaughters a stadium full of people (or not, none of them seem to be dead when you go back?) >tell her she's a loser every chance I get >finally get to her >kill her immediately >character breaks down weeping over the loss of his best friend songbird
wow, it's like I have no control over my character!
tell me you didn't watch the (pretty long) Brooklyn flashbacks without telling me you didn't
the fricking b***h became a glowBlack personess because she WAS FRICKING PLAYING WITH BLACKWALL
>the "I don't give a frick about you Songbird" option is to give her back to the FIA
Frick no, dumbass. the point of killing her is that she's too dangerous to let live. Letting her go loose or giving her back to the NUSA are both moronic options.
>wow, it's like I have no control over my character!
This is a common misconception with Cyberpunk 2077. V is not a blank slate. He has a predefined personality, goals, aspirations, and desires. You can influence him slightly through dialogue, but at the end of the day he is not a self insert, he's an existing character that you just control. In any other game, you wouldn't complain if the main character acts a certain way because that's just their character. If someone dies, and the player character cries, that is the character crying not you.
I would fault CDPR for almost marketing Cyberpunk as a self insert game where V is a blank insert. That's their fault for implying that is how the game is - but in reality it isn't at all.
Yeah. They never really moved past Geralt-type-of-PC. Not that I'm complaining really, Johnny & V's story is great, and even all 3 of my runs for each lifepath felt pretty distinct from each other, but it's not a true RPG experience for sure.
Yeah. They never really moved past Geralt-type-of-PC. Not that I'm complaining really, Johnny & V's story is great, and even all 3 of my runs for each lifepath felt pretty distinct from each other, but it's not a true RPG experience for sure.
There are way too many situations where you actually CAN choose to do and say radically different things that it just makes the railroaded segments stick out more
There are multiple characters that you can treat at a whim from "Wow let's be friends I'll help you" to "Not my problem just give me the eddies" to "I will fricking murder you"
>supposed to be the fricking shithole of the shithole in whole night city >whole game warns me to becareful of dogtown/pacifica >lore and comics says its the most dangerous >barely any shooting or gangfights >streets are as peaceful as modern day japan >civilians living peacefully
immersion ruined. dogtown should be all aggro and free for all deathmatch
>Keanu is unironically good as Johnny
this is true, even if it makes the internet drama gays seethe. At first I was annoyed by Keanu saying all this edgy shit to me, but at some point I forgot it was him, and it was just Johnny. That's impressive
I thought he did a good job. Reed's character is a smooth operator who isn't inclined to showing emotion. Probably some spy frickery too with them cybernetically messing with his emotions, or at least that's where the imagination wanders.
What I don't know is if this was intended, or if this is what they did to his character BECAUSE he was so flat in his voice acting. It would be disappointing if the latter, but it makes sense
Strange right? You would think that if you could deliver a line in person then you could deliver it in a booth too. Maybe usually being recorded separately without the character they are supposed to be speaking to there doing the lines with them throws them off or something.
he was cool but really stupid. i didn't feel that bad betraying him but i didn't want to kill him. sorry tennis elbow but i'm chasing that rice robot pussy
he talks funny, I find britbongs trying to sound american hilarious
for real. im watching The Wire right now and he doesnt sound right. like a bad imoression or something. tries to hard to sound baltimore-ian. it just sounda funny. also, he smacks his lips way too often and makes other gross mouth sounds.
my favorite was that show with the british woman playing an eastern pennsylvanian who way overdoes it on the water/wurter thing.
>for real. im watching The Wire right now and he doesnt sound right. like a bad imoression or something. tries to hard to sound baltimore-ian. it just sounda funny. also, he smacks his lips way too often and makes other gross mouth sounds.
fun fact, McNulty is an Irish-American character played by an Irish actor doing an American accent as well
He was worse than Idris Elba you smelly ESL
You might be autistic or have adhd
>britbong
moron, he’s African. Look at him. He’s black.
He's Anglo-African.
>I know, I'll pretend to be moronic.
>Ethnicity? Nationality? With?
I really hope you're not an amerimutt and saying this even as a joke
True. His fake accent sounded bizarre. Should've just used his real accent. An English sounding guy being an NUSA shill in the setting isn't particularly far fetched.
he sounds like he has a chunk of wood in his mouth at all times
he kinda sounded like mf doom speaking in certain lines. like he's eating the words trying to sound not european.
He's African, not British.
he's one note the entire way, no emotion or anything
exactly like keanu in the entire game
Put some iron in your mouth and pull the trigger
this. the performances from most of the nobodies are far better than these 2 "professionals"
I don't know why they keep hiring real big name actors they obviously don't give a shit. Elba doesn't fricking care about some video game, its beneath him in his mind.
That was fine by me. The character didn't strike me as a particularly emotive person. He's a secretive guy who prefers that you know as little about him and what he is thinking as possible. Part of being a glowie probably.
Keanu on the other hand should have been a bit more lively, being a narcissistic rock star with a chip on his shoulder.
It was alright. Characters like Reed who always keeps a constant tone to show that it's a character who's usually keeping his shit together don't let actors show their full range though.
This
Honestly I liked his performance
But for this kind of one note, serious business character, they should have went with Denzel Washington, everything he touches become pure kino
Denzel has never done VA, not to mention how expensive he would be.
That's not really just VA work, it's full mockup and they play out the scenes IRL
I'm assuming he acts like he acts in literally every single movie? He only has one character
Nothing wrong with that
If he was a better actor he'd get actual roles and not ones for video games.
Shit he cant even act pissed to myers or cobdescendent when you spy their conversation at spaceport
*rebellious*
I prefer keith david besides being old
He was good but I was hoping his character would be a bit more complex.
This, not a complaint on Idris but the Reed character should have been more interesting.
He should have arranged the sabotage of SF1, not Songbird. He should have been out for revenge, not being a good boy. He should have had a grander scheme, not just doing what he's been told. Here's what I'd suggest:
>Hansen is in talks with Arasaka to revitalise Dogtown
>Reed knows this, is still undercover
>Wants to keep Dogtown a shithole, a "haven" for soldiers
>Plans to get NUSA and Dogtown fighting to do so
>Takes down SF1 with a plan involving Alex, Songbird
>Game plays out mostly the same
>When Alex and Reed meet and pretend to be meeting for the first time it's an act to keep V out of the loop
>The plan is to kill Myers, keep Dogtown from gentrifying, get Hansen killed
>Songbird plans to keep Myers alive, trade her for a cure to her Blackwall Virus
It's not a good idea to draw attention to Dogtown and its relation to the rest of the world, people might notice that it's existence in absurd and the whole place would have been wiped out in hours.
Militech wouldn't nuke Dogtown.
Yes they would. In fact they'd have the most reasons to do so, especially when you consider nuclear fallout apparently just isn't a thing in the Cyberpunk universe.
The Nomad ending has this fun note where Panam shits herself realizing you're walking through the original Arasaka bombing crater and Saul is like "We're gonna die in five minutes anyway lol who cares"
They wouldn't because they're actively sending groups underneath Dogtown to research their old projects and recover their technology. They wouldn't want that getting into the hands of Arasaka or anyone else.
The whole time I was thinking that despite his hardened professional exterior, there's no way a tiny human part of him hadn't been building up hatred and resentment after 7 years, and it would eventually bubble up and crack. Turns out he really did just hold on to his ideals as his only way of life and had no will of his own remaining, which while fine is less interesting.
Denzel Washington or Keith David would have been way better fits for Reed's character.
I dunno, I think having him as a man stuck in the past, that clinges to the 'oath' is better than revenge driven mastermind.
Especially seeing, how he unclenches his ass for the first time in the long, long time in the endings, where everyone but him die.
The 'burned spy being out for revenge' thing is pretty generic an idea though. I found it a fair bit more interesting that he stayed loyal/dutiful even after the betrayal he suffered, it makes him seem genuinely insane, just not in an overt raving lunatic way.
>spy out for revenge
So what, it's cool.
True, was happy for him in that regard.
We weren't talking about 'cool' we were talking about 'interesting'
Burned spy is a 'cool' plot but its probably one of the first ideas anyone would think of when it comes to spy/government agent media.
I think they did sort of fumble the ball with Reed simply because his mental state didn't get that much focus, but the fact that he was this weirdly hollow man who didn't seem to really know or care how fricked up it is that he's still loyal to the person who threw him away like trash is an interesting concept. He's basically like a robot, just one who can act 'normal' and even sometimes warm and friendly.
i don't find it that strange. the FIA is their fricked up family in a world utterly devoid of any meaning or things worth fighting for. Reed clings to it because there's literally nothing else and the alternative would be to rot in dogtown.
> the alternative would be to rot in dogtown
There was literally nothing stopping him from leaving dogtown except for his dedication to his ‘duty’ and hoping that someday SOMETHING would come of it, rather than the thought he’d just been abandoned forever.
Alex had sort of the same deal, sticking it out undercover all this time, but even she’s better than Reed since she was able to decide concretely that she wanted out of the spy life for good after this mission.
Your ‘interesting’ is neither cool nor interesting so it’s actually fricking gay and shit just like you.
something i really hated with PL was you save the president so fast
like shes just gone after a couple hours
you even get a safe house which you have no reason to use or ever go back to after the president gets smuggled out.
feels like such a wasted opportunity
yeah its a bit weird, once Reed said he got the president out over the phone I was just kind of like "oh... thats it?"
Would've been nice if you got a mission where you had to stealthily drive her out and/or go through a dialogue sequence where you had to persuade/coerce your way through some security checkpoint, sorta similar to the Nomad starting quest.
i thought we would have to smuggle her out through the wall like we did getting in
i was actually cringing because i was getting ready for an escort stealth mission which are 2 of the worse things in cp2077
or the mission where you switch between cameras and then guide an npc through a enemy filled maze
frick those missions
they are never ever good
the one later in the game with the sniper was "fine" because it was super short and very linear
>escort stealth mission which are 2 of the worse things in cp2077
The game is so casual about those that it's objectively better than classic games that actually "care" about them because plot critical allies are always
>invincible
>teleport instantly to you
>don't alert enemies themselves even when walking directly in front of them
It's lazy programming but it cuts the most famous pain in the ass from gaming so whatever
It was bizarrely anticlimactic.
Like the whole opening act is "We're doing Escape From New York, I get it" but all of a sudden it's like Kurt Russel wins the basketball game and somebody just walks up to him and tells him "btw while you were fricking around with that we rescued the President offscreen"
Just bad fiction structure
The wait two days shit can be shoveled to the polsky ass about waiting to get paid fricking cdprojekt red
Frick that, Reed should have been the secret ruler of Dogtown, the man behind Hansen. Kurt is the voice and the face, the Prime Minister, but Solomon is the king on the throne.
>gets reactivated
>at first Reed thinks he's finally been made, ready to faltline you at the basketball court
>realizes "oh shit they don't know"
>starts to play both sides
>wants to get So Mi under his wing to get her way from Myers
>not necessarily more virtuous in his own schemes involving her, but he does actually care about her, unlike Myers
>So Mi wants to get away from all of them, still has her own angle to get away, still a stupid teenager move, maybe less CYBERHELL WHEEEEE in execution
>siding with Reed means joining the Barghest upper ranks with Alex and So Mi
>siding with Myers means being a NUSA boyscout and getting fricked in the end when they hand you over to Arasaka, who still want their Relic back, to prevent a war, mirroring Myers betraying Reed and showing you You Can't Trust The Corps, even the Federal ones
sounds cool
glad to hear someone thinks so, if nothing else the good ideas we come up with when we think "why didn't they just do this!?" is good material for one's one work.
>Finally release DLC 3 years later
>It sucks
So it's safe to say CD Projeckt Red is moving on, yes?
The expansion is great though, Dogtown is kino of the highest order
no its not
Dogtown is cool but the main quest is garbage
too linear no agency
Think again, fricktard.
>no agency
You did not play the game
Moving to unreal engine
>>It sucks
By what metric? No, anecdotes from angry incels on Ganker don't count.
By this metric https://youtu.be/zHZyeI1ipdg?si=VgbV4-iLVQ1jHFJo
>are you in safe hands?
It's nice
the part where he kills tweens is really well played
Loved his look and clothes but his performance was not that special for most of it except for a few scenes like if you try to call him out for his shit.
Why does every triple A company waste money, time and effort on these pointelss celebrities in vidya? Is it really that much of a draw to morons?
Use the fricking money to make the shit game better instead
They want their big dick AAA productions to have TV/Movies celebrities to show everyone they are playing in the big dick leagues
Yes like making an anime version
who?
I really don't like how him and Keanu are obviously just in the game so they can say they got a super famous actor in.
There are tons of lesser known actors they could have gotten to play these roles but they picked some of the most immediately recognizable ones for a reason and it wasn't their ability to embody the characters.
Johnny Silverhand 2077 feels very much like he was built from the ground up for Keanu Reeves. Up to and including his engram being a huge Johnny Pneumonic reference.
>Johnny Silverhand 2077 feels very much like he was built from the ground up for Keanu Reeves.
True. Silverhand's role was originally intended to be way smaller, but after they got Reeves onboard they rewrote pretty much the entire game for him.
This isn't true in the slightest. I haven't seen a reliable source for the claim yet.
Look at the early gameplay stuff and tell me they had planned a major role for Silverhand.
More like a secondary role with silverhand being alive by random radio line in that trailer even confirmed by devs that he was retire also the relics is mentioned even hellsman loose his shit that the relic has silverhand inside
These are inferences you're making. We don't have anything on the narrative being anything but Johnny Pneumonic
This shit just seems like a different version of the lifepaths tbh, just without a nomad option.
it was revealed to me in a dream
He was the best part of phantom liberty and I aligned myself with him over the literal prostitute who throws temper tantrums and kills her friends just to get her way and lies all the way up to when she dies, in comparison to Reed holding onto his ideals no matter how stupid they are and his never betraying any characters. His voice work was also really and all the nigs saying he's 1 dimensional most likely didn't didn't initiate all the miscellaneous conversations you can have with him.
So which ending was the canon ending?
You bet your ass gonna be the cucked nusa ending for sequels
He released an indie album with my neighbours it’s so weird lmao
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>panam leaves you and blocks your phone number in the DLC
L
O
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> Babe im gonna buy cigarretes gonna be dc one month
> Last connected 2 years
>baby, im going to hospital for an important life saving operation, but frick knows how long it will take
>i will wait, honey
if only the game wasnt written by total motherfricking morons.
More than morons gaslighting polsky scum
>be V, be dying from the Relic, got like 5 minutes left to live
>bro its cool i can go around collecting 10 houses, 500 cars and do 9000 fetch quests
>i got time
modern game writing really is something else.
The funniest part is the iguana egg that takes 90 ingame days to hatch.
>the iguana egg
the what? i finished the game yesterday, dont tell me i missed an animal i could have.
During the Heist, when you're in Yorinobu's penthouse looking for the relic, if you look left immediately after getting out of the elevator you see a terrarium with an iguana in it, and right behind the tree is an iguana egg that V can steal and bring to his apartment. Just puts it down in a small cup after the first chat with Takemura and says "Now we wait" even though Johnny is skeptic. After 90 ingame days you suddenly have an iguana (that's born fully adult lmao) that you can pet and Johnny then says "Aight you got me" and starts playing guitar every time you pet it.
>Just puts it down in a small cup after the first chat with Takemura and says "Now we wait" even though Johnny is skeptic. After 90 ingame days you suddenly have an iguana (that's born fully adult lmao) that you can pet and Johnny then says "Aight you got me" and starts playing guitar every time you pet it.
thats wholesome, i totally missed it on all my playthroughs.
damn.
They added it in a later patch.
Also hope you know about Nibbles at least.
is that a cat?
dont tell me i missed having a cat in Cyberpunk?
You did. You can have a a cat AND an iguana. The cat is way easier though, just have cat food in your inventory and go left right outside of V's door. You'll find a cat food bowl and a message in the trash saying to feed it. You feed it, wait some hours, then go and pick it up and take it into your apartment.
well god damn, how the frick was i supposed to find that out by myself?
thats nuts, now i have to reload an old save to see the kitty and the iguana.
thanks for the tip, guys, ill try it right now.
>That's wholesome
kys
the iguana is making me think about sneaking back into Kompeki, but reaching the penthouse is fricking annoying
They’ve made it harder on each subsequent patch but it’s still doable. Honestly another example of poor game design, why put so much effort into a massive location like that and then lock it off never to be accessible again?
Yup only to force Johnny preaching in sidequests
They realised that there was a possible happy ending and had to rewrite it because good endings aren't art.
The Nomad ending is a 100% happy ending
>you'll die in six months
Misty says you won't and for some bizarre reason her tarot bullshit is literally always right
More like the 6months death is an afterthought of that ending
That was open to interpretation. The cure ending would have been a "good" ending so almost all your friends now hate you for not dying.
frick your simp ending because the sun with (dont fear) the reaper exists
> No extension of that ending or dlc
You literally get told the time table and relay the info. Before you know it's too late it's already been the 2 years.
The real issue isn't you alerting anyone to your procedure. It's that at no point does anybody at Langley relay to next of kin, friends, or emergency contacts. But it's hard to put down a nomad with no address as an EC.
I don't know why Vik or Misty weren't informed or anybody.
the entire ending sequence seems to be really badly written with 0 thought.
That also isn't true you whiny dumb frick.
The only credible is the nusa crippling you and says it was coma even reed was there when you awake
There is nothing to support the theory that the NUSA deliberately crippled you. Especially when it would be easier for everyone to believe you just up and died. These people kill without a second thought and you think they're just going to tap dance around the issue by crippling you?
> Beat the preaident in an optional stat check
> She goes no russian or loose end at the spaceport
> Reed sad face he always puts when lying
>She goes no russian or loose end at the spaceport
Again, they're more than willing to kill you. So why are you ignoring that you're literally between the dragon's teeth in the end of you hand yourself over?
NTA but because V would also be hella useful for information on Night City and it's underground so offering them a cushy desk job in Langley after making sure they'll never ever be a threat is just a double win.
He's right in that you ever waking up from the surgery is implausibly moronic given what happened to
>the two bums that help you in the apartment building
>the redheaded Frenchies
>Reed him fricking self in the train car seven years ago
did those two guys get killed, I completely forgot about them and the fact that V even had a hideout in Dogtown.
Reed texts you that he took care of them, giving them a bunch of eddies and moving them to a nice farm upstate where they can play and frolic
Yeah there's no way he didn't kill them.
I mean the events of phantom liberty take place completely apart from your chooms. You can tell judy and panam "yo im doing some insane shit with the secret service and the prex" and theyll be like wow thats wild keep me updated. But from a story perspective it's not unheard of the government doesnt inform anyone. Also because theyre all in night city and none of their business
>But from a story perspective it's not unheard of the government doesnt inform anyone
Reed knew, had the capability to contact people and wasn't restricted from doing so.
Yeah but character wise it isnt that strange he'd be hesitant to. Both because of your personal relation and him feeling like he let you down and didnt come through with his promise as the fact that contacting them would make him relive the events of the operation and what happened to somi again. That's why your character is such a lil b***h when you wake up.
Reed is toothless by the end. The fact that he can't even bullshit something like "Hello, Dr. Vik? This is Dr. Bell at the Mayo Clinic. We have you listed as an emergency contact for our patient. The treatment is taking longer than expected and is in a very delicate position. We have to induce a coma and monitor his vitals as we work to chisel away at the engram safely. We unfortunately have to ask you from refrained visitation, as he's technically under surgery at all hours."
hes cool and Ganker doesnt like him because hes BLACK
oh shit, it's Stringer
Good and made for BBC
I found Jackie guys.
> Jackie in the car:Pagssword?
He plays the same character in everything he is in. Stoic badass
Only in Three Thousand years of Longing did he prove to me that he was more than an action star.
Is that tv series the meme .webm of him naked voyeuring an interracial sex and he screaming with the nigress because its cucking?
Its a movie
He was a Genie and a consort of Queen of Sheba. King Solomon was the guy fricking Sheba and Genie got jealous. He was caught by Solomon and bottled up
The writing of Cyberpunk 2077 is pretty bad. If you take it as a whole its super mediocre. The presentation of it is really good though
Nope the only good its the city artstyle design and the fact you can take elevators and doors without loading screens
the city looks really good, but other than that the game is still a total disaster.
especially the NPC's, holy fricking shit.
>they still move in only 4 directions, left, right, straight, back
when they change directions, they just teleport 90 degrees left, right.
frick me, holy shit, this would look outdated in GTA 3.
>10,000 fast food vendors around the city
cant use even 1.
you people complain about the weirdest things
what games can you actually even play?
>weirdest things
??????????
the city being completely shit and un-interactive and b***hing about it is not a weird thing.
Yes and thats normal
Games are like that
Try playing games
thats not normal, shitty unfinished products need to be criticised, you are exactly why get get 100$ games that are 10% finished and need 3 years of patches and DLC's to be playable.
kys.
life is hard huh.
why are you even responding to paid shills.
I'm actually disappointed with how good double jumping is
Almost every block of the city has roofs just the right height or conveniently placed dumpsters/fences/etc. so that as soon as you buy the double jump implant you can parkour anywhere
It must have been countless hours of programming effort to make that the case
And there's absolutely nothing to parkour to
There's no reason to not just fast travel everywhere instead
KEK i just cheat the jump and i find rooftops you cant stay also the big ships with marketing noclips you
Also the spaceport instakills you as dogtown if you go too high even with infinite health cheat
High-level parkour really revealed how absolutely unfinished the city is. Before they patched out Kerenzikov super-jumping I put some hours into really exploring, my findings:
>although most rooftops in the base game are accessible, after a certain point a few stories up no effort made to detail them; no dirt, no trash, no furniture
>past a certain level you’ll find fire escapes and balconies very high up in the city populated with NPCs, seemingly serving no purpose, nothing to interact with in the environment around them
>the city has a complete metro overhead train system as seen in the early trailers, the stations are accessible but unfinished internally and externally
>the Militech compound at Corpo Plaza has an unfinished interior it was possible to glitch into at one point
I think my biggest disappointment with Night City was how bereft of interior spaces the whole map was. Even other CDPR games did this better, Beauclair in Blood and Wine has a shocking amount of accessible buildings with things to find in them, often with unique interiors that give, if nothing else, the sense of a real, living city and the lifestyles and habits of the people who live there. It might not be an exaggeration to say that Mankind Divided, with its miniscule Prague hub and Golem City, has more to explore than Night City which is more like a film set facade than a functional city.
>Looks into the camera
>Tells you the game is fixed
>It isn't
>Dies
>Refuses to elaborate
>
Garbage. Sick and tired of actors being put in games just because of their celebrity
fun fact: post op V is not V but a new body with the relic implanted with V's construct. That's why you can't use chrome.
>Game is gradually revealed to not be an RPG at all, closer to Borderlands than anything
>Decide to play it two years after release hoping for at the very least to get Far Cry in a sandbox city, but hopefully with the tone and worldbuilding of Deus Ex
>The shooting mechanics and A.I. are worse than the original Far Cry and the inventory management is fricked as well as bugged, along with everything else in the game
>mfw if it ran perfectly with zero bugs and at 120fps it would still be one of the worst shooters on the market, and an anthesis to RPGs
Shoulda seen it coming after the abortion that was The Witcher 3, but Christ at least that game had some likeable sections. The tutorial area has more atmosphere than the entirety of Night City, which is just frick, frick, sex, frick, eating ass, frick, frick, gringo, city wok, frick shit, b***h, breasts, wieners, man wieners, female wieners, male veganas, cybermeth, frick, wiener, hot wieners in buttholes, neuroscience b***h, lesbians, and bypassing compressors.
Game is not even worth rating. It's irrelevant to the genres it inhabits as well as the ones it claims to, and to the medium as a whole.
>game vs game
>game vs game
>game vs game
dude eat your meds christ
Yeah, believe it or not OTHER GAMES can do similar mechanics better. Not exactly a new revelation.
Man the online pve mechanics in cp fricking suck compared to WoW
They really do. WoW is more balanced and has better progression.
Yup no one is so stupid to put stamina tax to rangeds in a fricking shooter game with cyborgs
>Why did So Mi do this?
Shame she didn't have the Chad V gene and unlocked the secret ending of
>Kill Myers
Even better
>you have a secret option to kill Myers during the rescue mission and before Songbird goes offline
>it unlocks the whole different route for PL
glowBlack folk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> egocentric b***h
sorry
Lmao imagine sucking the dick of the federal government because you don't like asian pussy lmao.
Gigantic waste of money
Frick CDPR
Now that the dust has settled
Arasaka truly isn't that bad in comparison to other corpos
No, they absolutely are that bad.
Militech seems way worse, Biotechnica too.
>Be Militech
>Have your super weapon be compromised
>Do nothing and just leave it intact underground.
What the frick were they thinking? There should be under cover agents guarding that shit 24/7
Saka under Yorinobu is fine, Saka under Saburo must burn
Saburo was absolutely right that NC deserves a nuke
NC has been nuked, it makes no difference, the rot is societal not regional.
Thus Blackwall AIs are absolutely correct
In an objective way, they pretty much are. However from a human perspective, the AIs behind the Blackwall are pretty much literal demons, not software "daemons" but actual extradimensional horrors.
Delamaine is basically a Blackwall AI.
Mind you, an illegal immigrant.
Nah, OG Delamaine is way more restricted than a Blackwall AI. Delamaine after doing his questline and merging all the other AIs into him is a lot like a newborn Blackwall AI though, which is exactly why he immediately fricks off. If he was a proper Blackwall AI he would never have been allowed to operate within the city and Netwatch would've been all over his ass.
One reddit theory I saw mentioned that Del split because of contact with V which prob shouldnt happen if he was a BW AI
Or because V is infected with whatever shit was in Sandra in prologue, which clearly has a connection to NightCorp, thus to Mr. Blue Eyes, and to Blackwall AIs. I still think that sending Somi to him was a shit idea.
>Delamaine is way more restricted
Lol in what way? He was commissioned to just help with paperwork, and eventually he pushed out the entire human staff, drove all the cars himself and took over the taxi company, renaming it after himself.
For one, he doesn't seem to have access to the net, or only in a very limited way. He just controls his cars, and not even those if he loses the signal. If he was a proper AI he's have no need to hire some random gonk to chase down his missing cars.
Which is why Don’t Fear the Reaper intp Temperance is the best ending
Of course. How could something this cute lie.
That's it I'm gonna breach the blackwall to get them both.
Arasaka single handedly fricked up traversing oceans.
1 nuke on night city wasn't enough
I hate goverment so fricking much
Forget about your french girl and somi, this is the real deal
I can fix it
The real question is, can you fix him?
He can make you worse
The Canto is cool but I thought it was really underwhelming by the time I got it, which was around level 56 or so. By then hitting most regular enemies with an Overheat quickhack would be enough to one shot them and costs less RAM than Blackwall Gateway.
It doesn't have enough quickhack slots, it has a shitty RAM count, which makes Blackwall Gateway only a good choice to use during overclocks. BG also has a really slow upload time. It feels like it's got too many trade offs when it's meant to be a superweapon you can only get once per playthrough.
https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/9462
I play on console so I'm eternally cucked by CDPR's shitty balancing unfortunately.
Damn sorry m8
Imagine if it had a feminine voice. God, why are evil robot women so hot?
>GlaDOS
oh boy you gonna love Pacifica's Delamain
Nah. I thought it was cool for the first 2 or 3 lines, but they laid it on way too thick.
it's Ellen McBain voicing that Del choom
wtf
>Weapon has an eye that watches you.
I love this weapon like you wouldn't believe.
Erebus or Canto… the real choice
I like the idea of black(wall) magic, especially after somi's proxy ending, so it's an easy choice for me.
>Tsun Canto fixes V with Blackwall Magic
Headcanon established
>60mag size
>4 bullets per shot
>insane dmg
>avada kedavra nonboss enemies when they low hp
>looks like a fricking professional camcorder
who the frick works in Midnight Arms?
FRICK. WE MISSED OUT ON THIS.
What miss? is a mod just need a naked model
>Missed out on a 3rd female romance option.
I just want to hear that sex voice of hers.
Stacker Pentacost is alive!?
>your version of reality
Huh
Realspace Vs cyberspace.
shill thread
he seems a bit too old for the role by couple of decades, Elba is what, 70? 80?
he feels like a grandad playing with my game
in cp setting?
Rogue is like a 100y old
no, i mean the actor, Idris Elba just feels tired as frick, like he will go to sleep after every line
Eh I was pretty immersed with him on screen
i guess hes not as wooden as Kevin Conroy got in his later roles, that fricker sounded like a sound board in last 10 years
but still, his Elbas performance made me sleepy
One of the best moments in the game is when you save the monk and he goes to the pier to meditate.
I like the contrast between this oppressive world and his frugality.
I actually like having Johnny as your intrusive thoughts. I wonder what they would do with Orion.
> YOW IM MORGAN BLACKHAND WHAT SHIT SOLO JOB WAS THAT? BACK IN MAH DAY I DONT KILL ANY Black person AND GET THE GIG DONE GONK
Was this scene necessary? We already know V is fricking miserable and alone after the surgery. Why rub more salt in the wound?
To spite you
Such is the way of the Tower
To show just how far you've fallen. In the main game, those buttholes wouldn't even have registed as enemies on your radar, they'd just be meaningless NPCs. But after losing every advantage you had, even background NPCs can be a real threat. It' illustrates that living in NC as a regular person is dangerous even if you're not having daily shootouts with gangoons and corpo security.
Ok but
>Give up the money-get beat up
>Tell him to frick off-get beat up
>Fight back-get beat up harder
>Pass speech check-get beat up
Really kills my immersion
It is night city. The weak are meat to the slaughter, especially to gangs and corpos. How many civilians did you accidentally kill and, supposedly, you're a more stable guy than some crackpot.
I only killed them because driving is unstable as frick
It's really fun on PS5 with the haptic controller, turn the slider to full haptic feedback and it feels amazing. First person driving in the not bugatti, best view, along the motorway and then it starts to get foggy at night, feels so fricking good.
>Black person mugs you in california
>was this scene necessary
The game wouldnt be very realistic without it
he's got the same hair as that little "May you get caught" gremlin.
did you lose the ability to use a shotgun too?
>Alt says the tech is still not advanced enough for blackwall AIs to take over human bodies
>except it is, see the Relic which does exactly that, and maybe even Peralezes, and some cyberpsychos, especially maelstroms
???
>the Relic which does exactly that
The relic isn't an AI, it's just writing one human mind over another.
>Peralezes
They were never taken over by anyone, that's just old-fashioned mental conditioning.
>cyberpsychos
>maelstroms
Being driven insane is something entirely different from your mind being taken over by AI.
>The relic isn't an AI, it's just writing one human mind over another.
Kek what? The engram is an AI. Ask Alt herself. It's basically 'saka trying to digitalize humanity. Just like V becomes an AI that takes over his/her own body in all default endings except for Temperance and the Devil if you refuse the soulkiller contract.
>They were never taken over by anyone, that's just old-fashioned mental conditioning.
Remember the color of brain-washing screens in their house. Remember So Mi losing her memories due to constant contacts with the blackwall. Remember what Alt has to say if you encountered Cynosure in PL. Remember that Mr. Blue Eyes is a "human". Why make a puppet politician when you can take over the body?
btw this is a correct opinion. The game shoud've had a timer like Dead rising.
Or pretend you re no terminal after getting shot in the head
>performance
games arnt suppose to have this games arnt movies nor should be.
Synthetic Man lost
his character is so fricking deadpan that I can't really judge him
It kinda worked because first time playing PL, I couldn't tell what the frick side he is on especially after Slider when he mentions he would have killed him after.
yeahhhh it does lend to that. the game is yelling at you the whole time not to trust reed/the fia.
so when he finally does open up at the end and it turns out his whole thing of:
>I care so much V, Also im too professional to talk about it.
is actually true. it feels... not anticlimactic but, I dunno. `
since they confirmed that there were working on the sequel I hope to fricking god they don't base the story around one celebrity again. if you're gonna put a celebrity make it one quest or Easter egg but fricking putting Keanu as the main draw takes away resources from aurally making the game better
nobody played the shitty dlc to this shitty game so I guess we'll never know.
I find it ridiculous how better Reed's route is in comparison to Songbird's in terms of dev efforts. They even added totally-not-alien-isolation in it kek.
Loot wise too
Reed Path; So Mi Lives
Wild Dog LMG
Bald Eagle Revolver
Fang Knife
Maxtac Mantis Blades
Erebus SMG / Militech Canto Cyberdeck
PL Ending
So Mi; To the Moon
Murphys Law Club
Pariah Pistol
Quantum Tuner Cyberware
For me, it's Reed route, mercykill So Mi, and a canon ending with my cute wife Militech Canto
And that dialogue with Johnny in your apt if you go this route was pure kino
Maybe because you'd have to be a drooling moron to earnestly side with Songbird so they didn't bother fleshing it out.
Frick Reed, frick Myers, frick Alex, and frick the NUSA. I saved songbird because Reed was a stubborn dog for the NUSA aka Militech. Songbird is a liar, a murderer, and a frick up, but she could save us down the line far better than Militech or Arasaka. Also Idris was good for the role, felt "in character".
>she could save us down the line
???? She's a WMD, and you just handed her to a guy who canonically conspires with rouge AIs.
>I HAVE TO SACRIFICE MY LIFE FOR MY ASIAN DAUGHTERFU
>[pacific rim theme plays]
Songbird gave us some preem tech from the Moon post game, proving she is grateful and not completely in the control of whoever saved her ass. Even if she cannot save us in time, we can find another way.
>Daughterfu
That's Reed's angle. No, I saved Songbird because Jackie would.
If she is grateful she provides another ending but the shit polski wasted money in edris so you cant get another better ending than nusa
>she could save us down the line
I wanted it to be true I knew it was a lie
Based, Reed's better off dead, he died 7 years ago when Myers burned him anyway. Songbird is also a piece of shit but I admired how far she was willing to go and like Johnny had a grudging respect for her in the end. I also think Idris did great playing his character, even if the role didn't demand much from him, he nailed the scenes where it mattered.
He was as good as Johnny and just like hi whoever wrote that garbage story made sure no one shined.
He was good as as a goofy adam jensenrathet than the tabletop character
a dlc where I get to work for a glowie Black person and hilary clinton.... cool...
Cant think of any more concise and well produced bit of gaming media than PL
Cool indeed
Is it really that bad? You could be Finger's underling.
Nah, it's alright. It's like saying Vegas is about working for NCR
>"What would you do in my shoes, Johnny?"
>get this answer
Now that the dust as settled, I'm glad they cast Keanu. I was very skeptical, and for good reason, seeing how it was on release. At the end of the day, though, it's a good story, and honestly? Probably the closest thing we'll get to a good Matrix game.
>dodging bullets
>kung fu punching in the stopped time
>hacking shit with your eyes
>dealing with wild AI shit
>in the end gaining a normal life means losing all these super powers and going back to "the real world"
>offered a red pill and a blue pill
>takes both
taking the red pill means fighting to gain what the blue pill pretends to offer
If you give the oath to President Myers to be an agent, him standing there at the side with his blaah blaah blaah hand movements cracked me up.
>giving the oath to NUSA
Are you a gonk
Calling me a gonk? We can never be Chooms now.
Ok Choomer
Why wouldn't I lie to the president?
I did it for fun, cuz every kid wanted to be a super agent
betrayed nusa btw
>old handset
>V has been using a Holo since infancy, doesn't know how to interact with it
>Johnny does the phone sign with his silver hand like "kids these days"
Great little moments like this really sell the setting.
A missed opportunity to include a rotary dial phone, that would've break V's brain for good
that;s basically what it was, there was probably as much time separating V from that tech as there is separating you from phone booths
such a tiny moment in the game but does such a massive amount to the character and the immersion
something i hated in the base game was they allowed you to essentially play the game out of order
so you would go from you and johnny hating each other to being best friends to not talking to dieing to being fine to hating to being best friends in the span of like an hour
it was awful
but phantom liberty fixed that by giving you 1 consistent v/johnny relationship the whole time
which is what the base game needed.
We did get a ok matrix game though
What difficulty did you anons play the game on, be honest. For me I played on Very Hard, until two moments where I lowered it to Hard for two of the boss battles as I was so fricking sick of getting one shotted, then upped it to Very Hard.
I played it on hard, I‘m not that good at vidya in general
Hard. But I find the game itself unbalanced, lvl 60 V can be extremely broken depending on the build, while first like 20 levels on very hard are just frustrating. For new players, I'd recommend Normal really.
Depends on the build. I tried AR/SMG and it sucked on higher difficulty. Body and hacking is the easiest for very hard.
I stick to very hard. You need to optimize whatever build you are going for. You can always undo the yellow perks and move them if needed. Make sure your cyberware is upgraded as well. If your armor or mitigation doesn't keep up with the enemies it will get rough later on. Also, use cover.
im on very hard doing stealth run. ive also played the game a lot i only have moderate trouble with the dlc because i have no idea whats going on.
using sec cams to make marks commit sudoko is fun.
I prefer trolling them with red canisters
>What did we think of Idris Elba's performance in Phantom Liberty?
I'm tired of Black folk everywhere in my media.
I wouldnt mind if it was keith david and wasnt shilled so much
Idris is white thoughever
Well, I don't give a shit. The only thing the game is really lacking first and foremost is the ability to actually use/watch BD's. This feature shouldn't have been cut. If a player could do it, this game would have been considered the most genius and respectable title ever, because of all of you coomer degenerates.
TL;DR: Not giving people a way to coom has ruined the game's reputation.
>finish game
>only found one iconic tech shotgun
>700 iconic revolvers and pistols
>look up a list of iconics to see what I missed
>nope there's only one in the entire game
very good loot distribution!
>get expansion
>cat missing
>cats shit in apartment still
>weapon wall doesnt work
>egg missing
>havent played in a long time maybe i forgot it
>break back into the plaza
>no egg
ive played through like 8 times im not starting over again
You can probably add it via CET
i only cheat in multiplayer games.
was just bringing up the broken update.
He's pretty good. I like that Elba plays Reed as sounding reasonable and even somewhat warm/casual once you've known him for a bit longer, kind of helps to obscure the fact that he's also sort of a nutcase given how unerringly loyal he is to his duty/position, even after all the shit he went through. Kinda similar feel to Myers when you first meet her, they both speak in a way that makes you want to lower your guard with them, even though they'd both kill you without any hesitation if they decided you were a 'liability'
He's not really a nutcase, he's just really loyal to his ideals and good at lying to himself to reconcile the discrepancies between what his superiors should be doing and what they're actually doing. He and Songbird are opposites, in a way: Reed is a responsible and sincere man who's in total denial about what he's doing, while Song is a selfish liar who does ultimately realize where her choices have taken her.
i will let kramer answer for me
pretty shit most of v are paid cd pr shills so I complained about it and got banned for 4 days for "racism" for pointing out they didn't even bother getting mocap for him and made this stupid mopey frowning face that looked like a 8 year old emoting after his mom said he can't have a candy bar at the store
his voice acting was rushed and shit quality too It reminded me of eso when they paid Alfred molina to come back and voice and it was such 0 effort phoned in voice acting . Ibis was exactly like that but that was his first time and he never did better
I found some of his acting to be iffy and some to be good. I think going full Mocap and doing a heavy American accent probably fricked his performance up a bit.
kino
I see your kino battle theme and raise you this kino horror section. Fricking AIs, man.
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I was just mad this didn't end up with an actual boss fight against the thing
>boss battle against beings who can shut you down with a single thought
It wouldn't end very well for V, anon.
just unplug them big fricking deal, find the amazon cloud servers and pour some Broseph on them
arasaka ending is still the best one. lmao
for me to poop on
Yea yea goro
I think there are so many blacks in my escapism, i no longer wish to escape there.
How is the new game ending from phantom liberty
Shitty watch in youtube
Pretty meh. I can see what they were going for but some aspects of the ending feel kinda contrived, like the writers were forcing it into being more depressing and isolating in a way that didn’t really feel natural.
im really disappointed. warning spoiler
Soingbird betrays you (big fricking shocker) and once again V doesn't get a happy ending because EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED
Not only that you have no ending with the asiatic besides datamine leak showing dialogue altered in the devil ending and v mentioning the arasaka ai rape station
he did a good job not sure what people are b***hing about
Beacuse he's black and it's more easier for someone that didn't play the game to say "Black person Black person Black person" than actually contribute.
I was hoping he would also be dead like the trailer and you would have idris elba and keanu reeves as imaginary friends that go on roadtrips with you.
Then idris would be morgan BLACKEDHAND
Morgan is white tho.
Can you side with Reed but then refuse the cure and shitty ending?
Yes.
But if you're gonna do that you might as well yeet Songbird too
i did the songbird ending once but i wanna do reed for the iconics he unlocks
He's saying that after completing the Reed path, the critical final decision is recapture Songbird vs euthanize Songbird, Reed has mixed feelings but accepts either decision, while killing her does lock you out of the NUSA cuck ending
Reed never has mixed feelings. All that matters to him is that she isn't dead regardless of state or freedom. You can try challenging it but he doesn't even get upset, basically he cannot comprehend why not being dead is worse than being dead.
but if you kill her he gets over it and tells you he gets it
my main concern is that i wanna do the dlc earlier this time to get the reed iconics and then return to the real game and use them
so i just wanna pick the ending that doesn't lock me into one of the new dlc endings
if neither do it then i'll probably let songbird live cause who cares
The game never insta-ends. If you fulfill all the requirements to get the surgery, you can choose to get it then and there, or you can wander off. And when you're at the rooftop before the Arasaka assault there's still a "Wait frick it, I'll call Reed" option.
well that's perfect then, ty
Imagine not doing that anyway.
I kept songbird alive because I disliked her
Have fun being myers's pet
Nah. Freeing AIs from beyond the Blackwall is a really bad idea.
Can I get a tldr on why the blackwall is le bad
domestic terrorists like the voodoo boys want to either harness or destroy the blackwall to not only communicate with AI's but also use them for personal gain.
In their galaxy brain assumption that the super AIs would even need them once they're back from beyond the Wall. From we can see with Mr. Blue Eyes, Lilith, and all the shit that got hitched to Songbird, they won't.
Yup funny the asiatic and agents try guilttrip you if you say you dont care the crippled voodoo died
You know the end of the base game where Alt starts melting everybody's eyeballs or the end of the Songbird route where Songbird starts melting everybody's eyeballs
Now imagine that happening everywhere
To everyone
Forever
but why does AI care about humans, are they like eco b***hes or something?
not sure what the lore is, revenge?
I think the entirety of Korea is controlled by an AI, as in, everybody there is literally a meatpuppet for the AI
A large number of the things beyond the Blackwall are just Warhammer tier murderhobo psychos because of the RABIDS virus of 2023
There are too many entities there that would melt everyone's eyeballs because they thought it was funny
Alt callously murders so many fricking people and she's objectively one of the most benevolent and empathetic Blackwall creatures
they should just turn off the power for like a week worldwide and replace the HDDs
the blackwall is an AI that keeps rogue AIs from infecting the rest of the net and destroying everything.
the rogue AIs are basically digital WMDs, releasing them would result in another collapse of the net and everything that relies on it.
>video game performance
i'm gonna go out on a limb and say, forced, awkward or phoned in. wouldn't know, didn't play it
It's like Bell Direct Modem Launch doing his Marvel Dr. Strange voice, it's weird at first but you get used to it.
I'd honestly rather they just wrote him to be european like the twins and let him do his native accent, but eh. It's fine.
Hansen felt really undercooked as an antagonist. Barely did anything and did not really come off as particularly evil for the setting.
This was a clever reference to Apocalypse Now, where Colonel Kurtz was also built up for the entire movie and then did literally nothing and died
It's especially on the nose because Hansen's name is Colonel Kurt
>im-fricking-plying
Hansen is nothing compared to Kurtz. Kurtz was a man who had been broken utterly by the horrors of war, Hansen is just a career criminal with a military background. He says himself he dropped the flag so he could do his business. The NUSA is nothing but a Militech umbrella, and Hansen nothing but a rogue Corpo.
It's hilarious to me that people see the Arasakas, the literal imperial family of Japan, as "CORPO CORPO," but turn around and call Myers president and suddenly it's "OORAH USA! USA! USA!"
Real rockerboys say frick corpos and choose to save So Mi and storm Arasaka solo
You wish. They storm Arasaka solo and just kill the girl.
But if you kill the girl you have to side with Reed who is a fed
Myers is sympathetic and is a person you can sit down and talk to, Goro is the same. Saburo isn't.
All the characters are glowBlack folk, but the black man has some shred of honor and actually helps you.
>Myers is sympathetic and is a person you can sit down and talk to
t. never did Reed->kill Songbird route
If anything Takemura is much closer to Reed, but more emotional and human
I did. The interaction with her giving you 5000 eddies was great.
I meant the same as in they're both great characters that can come across as sympathetic even if their morals are questionable.
I'm not sure in which universe Myers is sympathetic since she obviously represents the worst of humanity, and that even an AI would've been more humane than some corpos.
Same universe where you can watch the sopranos or better call saul and still enjoy the show and like the characters.
Myers is a politician through and through. That was the whole point of her character. She turns on the charm offensive when she needs you to get her out of Dogtown, she doesn't give a shit about you after that. The ending where you kill Songbird shows this the best. She also gets Reed to off-screen kill the two guys who stay at your hideout. The second anyone stops being useful to her they're considered disposable trash.
>She turns on the charm offensive when she needs you to get her out of Dogtown, she doesn't give a shit about you after that.
Hm, just like songbird isn't her. Ambitious, manipulative and doesn't give a shit about others.
It's almost as if they're all glowBlack folk, and yet reed is the one that actually helps you when you could've simply been discarded.
But she actually bothers to keep her word which makes her better than Hanako at least.
Also I guess I don't have as negative an opinion on Myers and Reed because Barghest killed the two mercs in my playthrough right before I got back to the hotel.
>Barghest killed the two mercs in my playthrough right before I got back to the hotel.
Same thing that happened for me, maybe it's because he told them to leave ? I wanted them to stay because the alternative would obviously be killing them.
I think there's three outcomes with those guys, but they die in all of them.
>Let them stay. Reed kills them off-screen after Myers promises them cars and cash.
>Kick them out. They're killed by Barghest.
>Kill them yourself in the hideout.
I had a different outcome; get tailed by Barghest when meeting Reed and you'll have a big chase back to the hideout where the two of those guys will already be killed by Barghest. Turns out they were actually true to their word and try to protect Myers.
How you get tailed?
I'm not sure. Was either me getting caught by a security camera in the abandoned subway when escaping with Myers, or fricking off to do a bunch of sidequests before meeting Reed. There's a line where V guesses that Barghest must've caught them on metro cams, but I'm not sure exactly what that refers to.
You took the hallway with camera must be
You do realise that’s all a front, right? Myers is a soulless manipulative freak just like basically every other politician.
She can just hide it well by pulling that ‘nah man I’m the COOL HIP president, let’s sit down and have a brewski!’ persona in front of gonk mercs like V.
She's still likable, moron. Open a fricking dictionary and look up the meaning of sympathetic. Or are zoomers incapable of thinking of anything outside of value judgments ?
ThE nExT JaMeS bOnD (The only James he should play is Huckleberry Finns friend)
Oh, you're one of those. Great.
i wish the storm arasaka solo ending wasn't locked behind some random lines i never chose mid game cause i was too drunk to care
I don't know, my disappointment in the "massive" update ruined all of the anticipation of a year and half of waiting to do another run
terrible, the whole story was boring and the "twist" was so lame and obvious. I shot that homie with zero hesitation. Overall though the DLC was good, dogtown mogs the rest of the areas in the game
Its was good, he did a good job imo i wouldnt mind seeing him do more VA work in video games
didn't buy
Glowie/10
Did anyone else realise that Phantom Liberty is basically just a retelling of TW3's story?
You must find the strong female with interdimensional super powers. She can totally handle herself. But she's also in danger so we have to save her and make sure she's safe, etc.
Its a mix of vanilla and first dlc only that the devil is also unlikable and monkey paw your wish
Thinking more about it the more I think this is right.
>So Mi is obviously an analogue for Ciri
>Reed is Geralt with his strong paternal feelings towards So Mi.
>Myers is Emhyr, desperate to get her hands on So Mi without really caring about her.
>Hansen is the Bloody Baron.
Then V is Skjall
necromancy is some really fricked up shit. The practitioners always excuse it as though they're just reanimating an "engram" of the person, not the person themselves, but either way they're bringing something back into existence and making it suffer, for their own selfish interests. No good.
>She can totally handle herself
As long as you don't have airplane mode enabled.
Except Somi isn't PC's semi-daughter.
I adopted her
Reed is the one who plays the role of Geralt, not V.
Once I started the dlc, it starts me off with a stealth section I have to stealth. Implying I can't just walk through the front door with my lvl 50 body/reflex/technical build.
So I stealth through after wasting an hour fighting infinitely respawning armies of cops/maxtac.
>killing maxtac doesn't get you shit btw, they just spawn another team after you kill the last member of the last team
>I thought the last one would at least drop the helmet, turns out you romance Judy to get it instead
Coolest helmet in the game, and I cucked myself out of getting it before I even started the game. I fricking hate what cdpr's become.
Anyway.
After the stealth section it railroads you for a while.
Finally get free access to the fancy new district, and it's just a few blocks. The merc group or whatever that's policing there is practically identical to the regular police, they even end up calling the same maxtac team.
They added vehicle missions that suck dick, cause they center around the terrible frickin car controls. It's one thing if you're just riding around in a decent car running from police for shits. Vehicle missions always make you drive slow, clunky pieces of shit, like every time. You're always gonna get attacked by multiple cars. They're always gonna catch up to you, cause you're driving trash, and they're always gonna junk your car, cause you're stuck using pistols/smgs, so hope you happened to build your character around those. Then that esl Hispanic handler will always shit on you over the phone, cause you're never gonna deliver a car to him unscathed or within the time limit like he wants cause it's impossible.
Anyway.
So I start another mission.
It railroads me so frickin hard for so long, it starts ending and starting story missions in the middle of dialogue. It literally forces me to do like 3 or 4 missions in a row.
Only notable thing was that there was a boss that would've been really cool but they made as lame as possible.
(1/?)
Because some morons polski hide it for female v dyke budi romance nit joking why that b***h has max tac gear must be one of the most stupid shit of the game
You have to fight a huge spider tank.
I'm up for it. The new airdashes give you a lot of mobility, and I'm tanky enough I can tank a few hits from a direct assault to this thing before I need to airdash to cover to hit some healing.
First phase you're not allowed to do damage. It's literally covered in god mode armor that nothing will penetrate.
So you have to do this embarrassingly scripted chase sequence.
Wait for a frickin elevator while the thing moronicly shoots at your somehow impenetrable stone wall cover.
Then you don't get on the elevator and just crash through the floor.
The fall fricks up the tank to the point where it can finally be damaged, but it's legs get crippled, so it turns into a giant turret in the center of a big room surrounded in cover.
They want you to take turns cover shooting this thing in between its shots...
I couldn't think of a lamer way to fight this boss if I tried.
So I just abuse my sandevistan, jump on this things head, and spam melee on it like Leon knifing el gigante in re4 till it dies.
Worst boss I've fought all year.
Then it rail roads you and rail roads you.
There's a part where you get golden opportunity after golden opportunity to bang the president of the united states, and you don't even get any flirty dialogue options. Wouldn't want anything actually kinda cool to happen in our big premiere spy thriller expansion.
As soon as I got my freedom back, I went around grinding gigs and CIPs, already pretty much have everything from the relic tree that I wanted. Any other points are just gonna go into a dump tree I haven't min maxed, like cool.
Dropped it shortly after. Never got to Idris.
Bet it's another shitty performance like Keanu's where they do nothing but try too hard to make him cool.
They need to stop with the holywood sidekicks. God knows how much budget they eat, and then all their work just goes to self masturbatory cinematic drivel that adds nothing but universally unwanted context to the gameplay.
Whoris Whoba's what in what?
Post your toon
My NetSolo punchwizard
>THEY DON'T WANT ME IN THE CITY AT NIGHT
>THEY DON'T WANT ME IN THE CITY AT NIGHT
>IT'S MY CITY AND IT MIGHT GET SHITTY
>AND IT MIGHT GET GRITTY IN THE MORNIN' LIGHT
> DA GAME IS FIXED DA GAME IS FIXED AMIRITE FELLAS!
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how is that bug still in the game
it's the only cutscene in the game and they can't fix it
>Dies in one shot
Still pissed we didn't get to face off with him properly if you side with Songbird. Meanwhile siding with Reed you get to face off against Kurt, MaxTac, play hide and seek with a robot. You get Erebus/Militech Cantos Mk.6. It's like they WANTED you to side with Reed.
Because why would you ever side with Songbird? It's such a monumentally stupid decision on every level.
>why would you ever side with Songbird
I didn't side with her so much as I refused to side with glowBlack folk
It's glowBlack folk all the way down, if you didn't want in with the glowies you would've just bounced way earlier.
But she's the danger to herself. I don't understand why people simp for a demonstrably terrible human being.
And you don't even get your dick wet.
Sex scenes aren't even worth it in this, they're mass effect tier where they just fade in and out of black with awkward animations. They're actually worse cause the only perspective you get is pov.
I was playing BG3 the other night, gettin some from Minthara, and it's just well produced porn just shy of showing actual insertion/fluids.
>the only perspective you get is pov
I will never play Cyberpunk but this is based.
I could never get into pov, but if that's you then cp77 was frickin made for you, dude. It's literally nothing but pov.
most people did because woman in danger
pp likey.
Because nusa doesnt offer nothing to me and she was the carrot stick of the dlc knew that the ice will be useless after that crappy statement of idris of gluing that shit inside V face
>try to use quickhacks on him when he appears
>can't because...
>YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO OUR EPIC DIALOGUE AND PRESS THE QTE TO WIN!!!
He is a glowy Black person that was took down by arasaka basic goonks
The spaceport attack was way cooler than all the set pieces in the Reed route. Not sure why people think it's good.
>erebus/canto
So underpowered and trash they are easily outclassed by non iconics.
>he picked the glowy route
lmao
>he picked the simp route
lmfao
>The spaceport attack was way cooler than all the set pieces in the Reed route.
honestly agree, but not a good enough reason to be a simp.
>Handed her over to Reed when she confessed she was lying to me
Am I reedeemed?
Why didn't they get a female celeb this time? I'd be much more invested.
nothing
Black folk can't act
Reminder that the true threat isn't ignorant consumers or greedy executives, but the ones in government enabling them.
>What do we think of another great actor playing a character in a completely mediocre and forgettable game?
FTFY
It's so bland and phoned in it's actually offensive. On Songbirds route his voice acting improves significantly though.
Anyone else find the story in the expanasion rather underwhelming? The trailers made me expect something grander (they involved teh fricking president after all) and more elaborate. But it felt somewhat hollow.
>Songbird is lying to you!
>But not really!
>Actually, she is!
>Wait, she's not!
And so on. It's not like you care either way because you're distrustful of her from the get go. So no tension. And really, it's soured by the fact that the game introduces you to the president you bond with her in the intro, and then she's written off the very next second and you're sent off on a chase after her assistant you don't really care about. Talk about pulling the rug out from under the player.
>trailers made me expect something grander
choom....
Songbird being a dumb b***h poking holes in the Blackwall is way grander than muh political intrigue, at least it is in this fricking setting. DO NOT PLAY WITH STUFF THAT SHOULDN'T BE PLAYED WITH
>DO NOT PLAY WITH STUFF THAT SHOULDN'T BE PLAYED WITH
Holy cringe.
Myers makes her do everything you moronic troony. She is forcing her to do the blackwall shit and borged her. Do you fricking moronic Black person tards not pay attention to the story you're playing through?
>myers made me hack stuff
>myers made me join the FIA
>myers FORCED me to frick with the blackwall
typical w*manoid behavior
One of the least likeable characters in the entire game.
tell me you didn't watch the (pretty long) Brooklyn flashbacks without telling me you didn't
the fricking b***h became a glowBlack personess because she WAS FRICKING PLAYING WITH BLACKWALL
There's nothing during those flashbacks that alludes to her screwing with the Blackwall at that time. At that point she's just a low-life netrunner starting to make a name for herself. Her boyfriend gets mad at her for spending too long in cyberspace and putting herself at risk of overheating, but that seems like it's par for the course when you're doing digicrimes and hacking into corpo networks. She talks about doing a big job, but that could be anything. Not necessarily Blackwall related.
crime
by the feds to commit crimes in their name
>I AM PERSECUTED, SAVE ME MR. V
She does a small thing with the blackwall and Reed says she needs to join the FIA or Netwatch will get her. In reality Netwatch would probably have recruited her as well. Meanwhile the little tiny poking of the blackwall she did that got so much attention was the reason Myers wanted her. Myers stuffed her full of experimental netrunning and blackwall piercing technology and made her do it over and over again to further Myers personal goals. Myers is the reason songbird is dying. Pushing constantly beyond the blackwall is what is killing her. Each time she does she loses memories and her nervous system breaks down.
The idea she poked a tiny hole in the blackwall when she was a teenager and that's what has been killing her ever since is a fan fiction that you've made up in your own head to excuse you sucking the federal governments wiener.
her choice to become a criminal
her choice to join the federal government
her choice to down the president's plane and cut a deal with a warlord
but thank god for simps
I definitely think the story was a bit of a rug-pull. All of the marketing was about going on a spy mission to save the president, but like you say, that part ends almost as soon as it begins. I get that the stakes were raised by Songbird's Blackwall frickery. But all of that stuff was done on Myers orders anyway. I feel like they could've done more with it. Like Hansen taking Myers hostage, threatening to expose her meddling with the Blackwall, with that having the potential to cause a new global war in addition to the looming threat of the AI's.
To be honest even after siding with Reed and killing Songbird I'm still not really sure how that resolved the threat of the AI's taking over. She was a Blackwall infused cyberpsycho who went on a tear through a decent portion of Night City. Surely whatever AI controlled her could've spread from that alone, having access to whatever connections she did. But apparently not, and shutting down the Cynosure core sets everything right.
I find government stooges even more discussing than corpos
there should have been option to drop him and that other one when they suddenly kill the the french c**ts
reed is just a fricking cuck and a dog to the spooks.
i am glad i killed him. what did i miss? evil skippy and just screaming suicide cyberdeck. worth it.
anyone try the all knife build? i feel like its a mouse and keyboard thing not the best on controller. but it seems strong. and i always end up gravitating towards nethacker builds so i wanted to try something new.
I guess good enough, because I dislike Reed as a person, so he must've done a good job conveying the character.
>don't care about songbird
>shitty mary sue I can tell the writers expect me to fall in love with and trust implicitly
>obvious she's betraying me
>want to kill her and be done with this shit storyline
>choose to side against her
>she slaughters a stadium full of people (or not, none of them seem to be dead when you go back?)
>tell her she's a loser every chance I get
>finally get to her
>kill her immediately
>character breaks down weeping over the loss of his best friend songbird
wow, it's like I have no control over my character!
>character breaks down weeping over the loss of his best friend songbird
Yeah, that was kinda forced
>sent little Tommy back to his dad at the stadium
>Songbird about to nuke that shit
>NOOO NOT LITTLE TO--he's fine the shop's open
Welp, we almost had an emotional moment there. Oh well.
Because at that point the "I don't give a frick about you Songbird" option is to give her back to the FIA, killing her is the moronic sentimental simp decision where you do what she asks despite having no material reason to do so nor any reason to feel indebted to her at all.
[Touch Songbird]
>glass her
>the "I don't give a frick about you Songbird" option is to give her back to the FIA
Frick no, dumbass. the point of killing her is that she's too dangerous to let live. Letting her go loose or giving her back to the NUSA are both moronic options.
>wow, it's like I have no control over my character!
This is a common misconception with Cyberpunk 2077. V is not a blank slate. He has a predefined personality, goals, aspirations, and desires. You can influence him slightly through dialogue, but at the end of the day he is not a self insert, he's an existing character that you just control. In any other game, you wouldn't complain if the main character acts a certain way because that's just their character. If someone dies, and the player character cries, that is the character crying not you.
I would fault CDPR for almost marketing Cyberpunk as a self insert game where V is a blank insert. That's their fault for implying that is how the game is - but in reality it isn't at all.
Yeah. They never really moved past Geralt-type-of-PC. Not that I'm complaining really, Johnny & V's story is great, and even all 3 of my runs for each lifepath felt pretty distinct from each other, but it's not a true RPG experience for sure.
There are way too many situations where you actually CAN choose to do and say radically different things that it just makes the railroaded segments stick out more
There are multiple characters that you can treat at a whim from "Wow let's be friends I'll help you" to "Not my problem just give me the eddies" to "I will fricking murder you"
>supposed to be the fricking shithole of the shithole in whole night city
>whole game warns me to becareful of dogtown/pacifica
>lore and comics says its the most dangerous
>barely any shooting or gangfights
>streets are as peaceful as modern day japan
>civilians living peacefully
immersion ruined. dogtown should be all aggro and free for all deathmatch
What about the ocassional shootouts?
He sounds completely bored in this game
Keanu is unironically good as Johnny
>Keanu is unironically good as Johnny
this is true, even if it makes the internet drama gays seethe. At first I was annoyed by Keanu saying all this edgy shit to me, but at some point I forgot it was him, and it was just Johnny. That's impressive
I thought he sounded exactly the way an edgelord who thinks he is too cool for school would sound.
Why isn't PL a stand alone expansion?
I thought he did a good job. Reed's character is a smooth operator who isn't inclined to showing emotion. Probably some spy frickery too with them cybernetically messing with his emotions, or at least that's where the imagination wanders.
What I don't know is if this was intended, or if this is what they did to his character BECAUSE he was so flat in his voice acting. It would be disappointing if the latter, but it makes sense
He was alright. Didn't piss me off the way Keanu did.
Flat as frick holy shit. It felt like the actor (not the character) didn't give a frick about reading the lines.
It's a very common problem with "real" actors for some reason. They can't do voice acting.
Strange right? You would think that if you could deliver a line in person then you could deliver it in a booth too. Maybe usually being recorded separately without the character they are supposed to be speaking to there doing the lines with them throws them off or something.
What is the cyber spirit of Asmongold doing in the desert?
Look at the top of his head
Emotionless phone-in
Stop hiring big name actors.
Hire good VA
he was cool but really stupid. i didn't feel that bad betraying him but i didn't want to kill him. sorry tennis elbow but i'm chasing that rice robot pussy
>pussy
Songbird is the type that slots a 14 inch Mr. Studd
that's your fantasy and i'm happy for you