Even less exclusives. Xbox already seem to want to drop exclusives. The reason I think this is bad is because I think great exclusive games can drive competition which pushes devs to be more creative a lot of the time. If everyone offers the same guys, people are just gonna go for the most powerful console.
console hardware either becomes a joint venture with snoy, ms, and amd and they both sell software on the same machine or hardware and physical games are phased out completely in favor of cloud shit and you're just subscribing on and off to who ever has the games you want as time goes on. "most powerful" console doesn't matter when both of them are using the same pool of amd parts, its just a game of leap frog at this point.
All your exclusive slops released on pc are bland af idk how you snoys get hooked onto it for thousands of hours. They certainly don't know how to make a good, non-formulaic AAA slop.
There's no proof of this any longer. Exclusives only benefit console platform owners, while game devs and especially players get shit on. Exclusives used to have a purpose the same way consoles themselves did - they were purpose built cheap(er) ways to game making the most of more limited hardware. Sure a $300 NES in the late 80s was expensive, but a "gaming" capable PC would have been a minimum $3K and remained so through the 90s, as well as being quickly outmoded. So you had limited hardware and games being pick up and play. However, after the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube (and definitely the X360/PS3/Wii ) and inflection point was reached. Consoles started getting more PC like with more updates, patches, and other features but most importantly their hardwre started getting closer and closer to off th shelf PC (or mobile phone/tablet) chipsets nd the like. So they would become basically gimped, locked down, proprietary PCs that could only have limited function.
There's no purpose for consoles as a concept anymore. They should gracefully die and be replaced by branded prefab PCs and similar devices, if these companies want to continue. Peripherals can be made for open PC / mobile OSes by default. They can still sell all their stuff, just without exclusive hardware platforms locked down. The best example is something like the Steam Deck that manages to give a "console like" experience while also being a full power PC that isn't locked down in any way. Valve COULD have made it hard to do anything but run Steam on it, but they didn't - you can run competitors platforms if you really want, pirate, emulate etc..and don't have to worry about Steam banning you from playing your Steam games because it noticed you had a pirated title or an offensive mod or something. Consoles only exist now to shovel money into platform holder pockets and they're holding everyone else back.
>There's no purpose for consoles as a concept anymore
Still has the tentpoles of price and ease of use. Need to look no further than how any modern mid-range GPU costs as much as a whole modern console.
>Price
Eh, I expect the prices to continue to go up if the hardware keeps anything close to pace. Xbox and Playstation will be equal if not more expensive than they were in the past generations for the Series X / PS5 disc. When it comes to PC GPUs, keep in mind that the amount of power you get for those purchases despite the price gouging is significantly above a console's. Also people can buy a generation back, used etc (ie NV 3000, AMD 6000 series etc) and sometimes still get a huge amount of price/performance. Of course, its worth noting that a PC does well.. PC stuff atop it all, so it isn't like buying a console is a substitute, really. Even just for gaming though, while consoles may in some cases have a short term price benefit, in the long term they're generally far worse for many reasons. All this aside though, the Steam Deck has models targeting lower price as well, while also being more powerful and capable than alternatives so its possible
>Ease of use
Not really a thing anymore I don't think. Since the Steam Big Picture UI, its pretty much the same experience as any console on the simplest ease of use level.
Too bad most modern games are busted on release day without a day-1 update from a server. Only reason I even buy physical for my consoles is due to slow shitty net, and 50gb+ from a disc beats leaving the console on over night and half a day.
I agree, that being said its only really sony and Microsoft who do that shit, buying a disc for the PS5 or Sexbox is essentially buying a physical code for the game at this point, which is why i don't buy them anymore.
I could see another competitor entering the console market that does offer true physical games again if sony and Microsoft do fully retreat from offering physical games in the future.
>these replies
i agree, xbox used to have halo and gears, sony had silent hill and metal gear and nintendo had its own IP's.
a good game series could make or break your console so it's sad to see that kind of competition stop now.
there is no next-gen console because their consumption will be too high for running in home. Cloud is the only solution. Or we just accept there is no graphical improvement..
consoles will only be locked down mulitplayer services
they will have largely lost their reason to exist, as computer tech has converged and mobile tech displaces living room tech.
No more console exclusives, everything gets ported to PC at least at some point. Consoles are now just a "non-walled garden" that people use for convenience.
I'm not sure what Sony will release as a console after the PS3. There hasn't been any new disc technology that I know of and that seems to be their go-to strategy.
Sega has been out of the race since 6th gen.
So far the latest home console is the Wii U from Nintendo and that was 12 years ago.
If there is another generation of home consoles I guess I expect it to last a long time? I just don't see them making a new console when almost entirely generic x86 hardware seems to satisfy normalgays.
>There hasn't been any new disc technology that I know of and that seems to be their go-to strategy.
They were working on bigger discs in the late 2000s before ~~*streaming*~~ became popular and interest died out
We could’ve had discs with terabytes in storage by now
I'm not expecting anything fun or even slightly interesting.
Every single Sony console has been fundamentally identical since the PS3, and even that was just a PS2 with a main menu and proper internet access.
Same with Xbox, except they have an utterly moronic naming scheme that makes it difficult for anyone not paying attention to know which is which, I don't even remember what the current Xbox is called. Also, after the 360 the aesthetics of the Xbox started looking way too similar to the Playstation, which just exacerbates the issue of so many versions of both consoles feeling too similar.
I do like the Switch, but it has killed any chance of there being dedicated handhelds and consoles from Nintendo in the future. Hopefully they still make interesting consoles, but my guess is that everything from now on will just be Switch 2/3/4, ad nauseum. Might give them the chance to improve the performance at least.
I expect less than nothing from VR, unless maybe Valve's upcoming one is actually decent.
>What do you expect from the next generation of consoles?
Higher RRP
More scalping
$80 games
Movie games
Buggy games
50GB day 1 patch
Always online
Microtransactions
>Nvidia has been releasing planned obsolescence GPUs since the GTX 10 series and consumers know that they know that they know that they are just dicking about and not making anything but their "top tier" card usable if even that >AMD has just been producing jank and orienting themselves around Nvidia >Intel is betatesting >Increased GPU power is going exclusively to less optimized games that assume shared memory between CPU and GPU and use unoptimized textures and assets >Most good games are pre-2010 and emulation isn't heavily GPU bound afaik
There's not really been a reason to upgrade.
PC gaming is back at the point that the upfront price proposition of building a modern gaming PC is absolutely dwarfed by what a modern console gets you.
I think Sony and Microsoft are going to stop at their current consoles. Nintendo will start regularly releasing their crappy consoles to zero competition simply to reset emulation progress.
I expect MS to go and drop what we know as an Xbox, and instead they sell a mass produced "Xbox" branded Windows PC that devs can use as a min-spec target that is better than most toasters of its year, similar to how PS5/XSX are more powerful than your average Steam user's rig.
I don't think ps6 will be a thing and sony will shift to switch esque handhelds instead. There is like no point anymore especially since they announced they will focus more on pc now instead of console gaming.
>all digital >PS6 is last console sony ever releases, they have stated they are moving focus to PC and mobile >Nintendo remains the sole console manufacturer that allows you to buy physical games
the day physical games stop being released is the day i stop buying video games
As long as it's also the day you stop fricking posting here you inbred luddite.
God I hate physicalBlack folk so fricking much. This board needs a mandatory IQ test to post.
>shitting out new products with essentially no performance improvements
lol
Where do you morons get this shit? Like you can look at any benchmark and immediately see this is completely incorrect, are you so absurdly stupid you can't even figure out something this basic?
Moar powerful graphics than RTX 6090, enough to render real time realistic
peach fuzz facial hair on all npcs. $1100 at launch, only for me to sell it second hand at less than half price when the mid gen refresh with graphics on par with the 6090 ti super comes out.
Even less exclusives. Xbox already seem to want to drop exclusives. The reason I think this is bad is because I think great exclusive games can drive competition which pushes devs to be more creative a lot of the time. If everyone offers the same guys, people are just gonna go for the most powerful console.
> people are just gonna go for the cheapest console.
fixed
Depends on the person I guess. I have the money, so I'd go for the most powerful and avoid the cheapest.
console hardware either becomes a joint venture with snoy, ms, and amd and they both sell software on the same machine or hardware and physical games are phased out completely in favor of cloud shit and you're just subscribing on and off to who ever has the games you want as time goes on. "most powerful" console doesn't matter when both of them are using the same pool of amd parts, its just a game of leap frog at this point.
All your exclusive slops released on pc are bland af idk how you snoys get hooked onto it for thousands of hours. They certainly don't know how to make a good, non-formulaic AAA slop.
There's no proof of this any longer. Exclusives only benefit console platform owners, while game devs and especially players get shit on. Exclusives used to have a purpose the same way consoles themselves did - they were purpose built cheap(er) ways to game making the most of more limited hardware. Sure a $300 NES in the late 80s was expensive, but a "gaming" capable PC would have been a minimum $3K and remained so through the 90s, as well as being quickly outmoded. So you had limited hardware and games being pick up and play. However, after the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube (and definitely the X360/PS3/Wii ) and inflection point was reached. Consoles started getting more PC like with more updates, patches, and other features but most importantly their hardwre started getting closer and closer to off th shelf PC (or mobile phone/tablet) chipsets nd the like. So they would become basically gimped, locked down, proprietary PCs that could only have limited function.
There's no purpose for consoles as a concept anymore. They should gracefully die and be replaced by branded prefab PCs and similar devices, if these companies want to continue. Peripherals can be made for open PC / mobile OSes by default. They can still sell all their stuff, just without exclusive hardware platforms locked down. The best example is something like the Steam Deck that manages to give a "console like" experience while also being a full power PC that isn't locked down in any way. Valve COULD have made it hard to do anything but run Steam on it, but they didn't - you can run competitors platforms if you really want, pirate, emulate etc..and don't have to worry about Steam banning you from playing your Steam games because it noticed you had a pirated title or an offensive mod or something. Consoles only exist now to shovel money into platform holder pockets and they're holding everyone else back.
consoles haven't made sense in a while
it's still a thing because microsoft and sony want that juicy online sub and 30% tax on everything
>There's no purpose for consoles as a concept anymore
Still has the tentpoles of price and ease of use. Need to look no further than how any modern mid-range GPU costs as much as a whole modern console.
>Price
Eh, I expect the prices to continue to go up if the hardware keeps anything close to pace. Xbox and Playstation will be equal if not more expensive than they were in the past generations for the Series X / PS5 disc. When it comes to PC GPUs, keep in mind that the amount of power you get for those purchases despite the price gouging is significantly above a console's. Also people can buy a generation back, used etc (ie NV 3000, AMD 6000 series etc) and sometimes still get a huge amount of price/performance. Of course, its worth noting that a PC does well.. PC stuff atop it all, so it isn't like buying a console is a substitute, really. Even just for gaming though, while consoles may in some cases have a short term price benefit, in the long term they're generally far worse for many reasons. All this aside though, the Steam Deck has models targeting lower price as well, while also being more powerful and capable than alternatives so its possible
>Ease of use
Not really a thing anymore I don't think. Since the Steam Big Picture UI, its pretty much the same experience as any console on the simplest ease of use level.
don't forget physically owning your games, PC physical died in the early 2010's
Too bad most modern games are busted on release day without a day-1 update from a server. Only reason I even buy physical for my consoles is due to slow shitty net, and 50gb+ from a disc beats leaving the console on over night and half a day.
I agree, that being said its only really sony and Microsoft who do that shit, buying a disc for the PS5 or Sexbox is essentially buying a physical code for the game at this point, which is why i don't buy them anymore.
I could see another competitor entering the console market that does offer true physical games again if sony and Microsoft do fully retreat from offering physical games in the future.
According to xbox ceo exclusives won't sell consoles
>these replies
i agree, xbox used to have halo and gears, sony had silent hill and metal gear and nintendo had its own IP's.
a good game series could make or break your console so it's sad to see that kind of competition stop now.
games* not guys lmao.
Haha homo
The ability to play Palworld
No Palworld 2 as PS6 exclusive tendie?
a console that just outright does not work if you dont pay a monthly subscription
Games being all live service / game pass would make this true though
Thats why xbox its ruined
there is no next-gen console because their consumption will be too high for running in home. Cloud is the only solution. Or we just accept there is no graphical improvement..
I'll probably be dead before then so I don't care
Drug addict piece of shit
?????
consoles will only be locked down mulitplayer services
they will have largely lost their reason to exist, as computer tech has converged and mobile tech displaces living room tech.
No more console exclusives, everything gets ported to PC at least at some point. Consoles are now just a "non-walled garden" that people use for convenience.
$1000.°° heckin dollarinos
$110 each digital release
lol, what are you poor?
also: not a trace of feminine beauty ever again in vidya
a negative number of games
Games as a Subscription Service and hybrid cloud computing
I expect it will be the final console generation before everything moves to streaming and subscription
Streaming is already dying
>move with breeze
The frick does that mean? That's a slogan more apt for a sailboat.
My continued disinterest.
I'm not sure what Sony will release as a console after the PS3. There hasn't been any new disc technology that I know of and that seems to be their go-to strategy.
Sega has been out of the race since 6th gen.
So far the latest home console is the Wii U from Nintendo and that was 12 years ago.
If there is another generation of home consoles I guess I expect it to last a long time? I just don't see them making a new console when almost entirely generic x86 hardware seems to satisfy normalgays.
>There hasn't been any new disc technology that I know of and that seems to be their go-to strategy.
They were working on bigger discs in the late 2000s before ~~*streaming*~~ became popular and interest died out
We could’ve had discs with terabytes in storage by now
cds are an obsolete technology when we have TBs hard drives and fiber connections
>move with breeze
I'm not expecting anything fun or even slightly interesting.
Every single Sony console has been fundamentally identical since the PS3, and even that was just a PS2 with a main menu and proper internet access.
Same with Xbox, except they have an utterly moronic naming scheme that makes it difficult for anyone not paying attention to know which is which, I don't even remember what the current Xbox is called. Also, after the 360 the aesthetics of the Xbox started looking way too similar to the Playstation, which just exacerbates the issue of so many versions of both consoles feeling too similar.
I do like the Switch, but it has killed any chance of there being dedicated handhelds and consoles from Nintendo in the future. Hopefully they still make interesting consoles, but my guess is that everything from now on will just be Switch 2/3/4, ad nauseum. Might give them the chance to improve the performance at least.
I expect less than nothing from VR, unless maybe Valve's upcoming one is actually decent.
>What do you expect from the next generation of consoles?
Higher RRP
More scalping
$80 games
Movie games
Buggy games
50GB day 1 patch
Always online
Microtransactions
You forgot a 0 in the day 1 patch
Nothing because COVID effectively helped PC take over the normie market share and only minorities are going to own consoles
PC gaming is still in downtrend or graphics don’t matter for pc gaming anymore.
>Nvidia has been releasing planned obsolescence GPUs since the GTX 10 series and consumers know that they know that they know that they are just dicking about and not making anything but their "top tier" card usable if even that
>AMD has just been producing jank and orienting themselves around Nvidia
>Intel is betatesting
>Increased GPU power is going exclusively to less optimized games that assume shared memory between CPU and GPU and use unoptimized textures and assets
>Most good games are pre-2010 and emulation isn't heavily GPU bound afaik
There's not really been a reason to upgrade.
PC gaming is back at the point that the upfront price proposition of building a modern gaming PC is absolutely dwarfed by what a modern console gets you.
Thats Interesting. Can you crack a game on console?
I think Sony and Microsoft are going to stop at their current consoles. Nintendo will start regularly releasing their crappy consoles to zero competition simply to reset emulation progress.
About the same as what I expect out of current generation.
That is nothing. The last time a console was worth considering was a PS3.
No video games.
> ps4 but pointy corner
OKAMAAAAA GAMESPHU
member me?
Hardwareless versions being available and being so cheap as to make them the most popular in the developed nations.
16 core hybrid Zen 5 CPU (8 Zen 5 + 8 Zen 5c)
54 CU RDNA 5 GPU
32 GB GDDR7
2 TB Custom NVME SSD (PCI-e 5)
4k/60fps mode for new games.
That'll be the PS5 pro this gen
It will just get bigger for a light improvement in performance also bigger heat issues
I thought we would have transparent displays by now
So is VR a flop? Gaming seems kinda stagnant lately.. Does anything really pop out to you as "next gen" in the last few years?
I expect MS to go and drop what we know as an Xbox, and instead they sell a mass produced "Xbox" branded Windows PC that devs can use as a min-spec target that is better than most toasters of its year, similar to how PS5/XSX are more powerful than your average Steam user's rig.
that shit looks like a dildo
Nothing. Just an universal streaming app, and that's all
60fps@1080p.
Without needing taa/fsr*
>Without
Where do you think we are?
>the future of console gaming is grim
bros i just miss when gaming wasn't filled with bullshit.
There won’t be a next generation
I think maybe the first AAAA game
I don't think ps6 will be a thing and sony will shift to switch esque handhelds instead. There is like no point anymore especially since they announced they will focus more on pc now instead of console gaming.
A browser. Hopefully.
holy frick I hate fan concept renders of future consoles
>all digital
>PS6 is last console sony ever releases, they have stated they are moving focus to PC and mobile
>Nintendo remains the sole console manufacturer that allows you to buy physical games
the day physical games stop being released is the day i stop buying video games
You could always just pirate and store in whatever storage medium you want
i do for anything pre 2010, I'm talking about modern games and the overall trend to embrace nothing but digital
As long as it's also the day you stop fricking posting here you inbred luddite.
God I hate physicalBlack folk so fricking much. This board needs a mandatory IQ test to post.
shut up zoomer, go chug an all digital wiener
Physical homosexualry is strictly a zoomer opinion.
Anybody that isn't young as shit knows how inherently terrible physical is in every way.
Nothing. There is no hardware advancement anymore. We have reached the peak.
Only for console toddlers
DLSS and FSR are mistakes and Nvidia, AMD, and Intel are just shitting out new products with essentially no performance improvements.
>shitting out new products with essentially no performance improvements
lol
Where do you morons get this shit? Like you can look at any benchmark and immediately see this is completely incorrect, are you so absurdly stupid you can't even figure out something this basic?
Ok name games with rtx at 60 fps that are less than 2 years old
How is posting a chart filled with 4 year old GPUs disproving me?
A modest bump in power, $600-700 price tag, 1 game at launch and a remaster of a game from the gen before it.
Moar powerful graphics than RTX 6090, enough to render real time realistic
peach fuzz facial hair on all npcs. $1100 at launch, only for me to sell it second hand at less than half price when the mid gen refresh with graphics on par with the 6090 ti super comes out.
Shilling save states and autoplay from sony knowing their new patents
>move with breeze
??? video games?????
This might be dumbest mock-up I've seen to date, even dumber than an all screen Nintendo handheld.
inferior hardware to my PC and even less games
no video games at all
just like the last 2 gens
>ripping off SNES controllers
Does Sony really?