They tried to access the console but realized not only do they not exist, but they exist only as lore background in a game not about them at all.
Either that, or they became the husk that is the numidium. Since they were alive, and the numidium is just a giant machine, they killed themselves effectively
In original lore they were wiped from existence except for fat spider, fat spider was off in another dimension at the time.
Big-fricking-brain me thinks they were turned into the falmer for Skyrim plot padding
>actual answer is no one knows and one of the original creator said in an interview that literally no one knows, and he would want to keep it that way
You just know they will explain it somehow, someone actively being against it just makes it a sefl fulfilling prophecy.
Became the skin of Numdium. Why do you think the Numidum breaks time when it walks? Because its visage tells Aka'tosh that he's fricking fake with infinite atheist fedora tipping.
Where is Numdium? Unrelated note, I always pronounce that as “Numidium”[new mi dee um], rolls off the tongue better than “numb dee um”
Ita simultaneously destroyed/bits recycled into akhulakhan and also still actively sieging and stomping on the summer set isles in a pocket timeline (from which it will eventually break free)
This thing is horrifying. If you encounter it you are doomed to be horrendously killed across infinite variations of timelines. Forever. You are dead but also alive and your house is intact but also a smoldering ruin and your neighbors and family have been vaporized into mist but they're also celebrating a birth of a new child in the back garden. You get the idea
Look into LANDFALL, that's when numidium breaks free and goes on rampage again
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Okay, so my understanding is that there are two versions of the numidium, one that took an hour to conquer Alinor, which is the main one. There's also another version in the time warp that'll take thousands of years to conquer Alinor and that one is going to destroy nirn when its timeline reconnects?
9 months ago
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Yes, he's stomping on alinor to this day
9 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, so does that timewarp count as a dragonbreak, even though a dragon break was already occurring as long as the Numidium was active? Is it just dragon breaks all the way down?
9 months ago
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9 months ago
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Keep feeding him Altmer to debate with, and everything will be all right.
9 months ago
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>LANDFALL
No, Kirkbride needs to be used in a severe moderation.
9 months ago
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>Is this fantastical lore in my fantasy game?! >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT NEEDS TO BE BORING TAKE MEDS SCHIZO AIEEEEEEEE
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not everything Kirkbirde writes is interesting or satisfying to me.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Like it or not, it's still canon.
9 months ago
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>it's still canon.
lol
lmao even
9 months ago
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Why wouldn't it be canon?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing you write is interesting to me. Leave my thread you waste of bandwidth.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I agree. I treat him like an in-game character speculating on things and it just werks.
9 months ago
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>C0DA continues to filter the plebs to this day
9 months ago
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It's not filtering, I just don't care about some of Kirkbride's takes.
9 months ago
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what exactly do you consider to be a bad take about C0DA?
9 months ago
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Talking zombie TV heads from the future
9 months ago
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>skibidi universe is a canon kalpa that happened
9 months ago
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Is it not canon? I could never really grasp the concept of tomorrowwind
9 months ago
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yes, you were filtered.
I'll give you a hint, the parts you describe are jubal retelling old stories from a time that is now completely lost >morrowind 0 >morrowind 1 >tomorrowind
not very different from >Satakal the worldskin >shezarr's song >the heart of the world >shor son of shor >the light and the dark >the annotated anuad
etc
>If you encounter it you are doomed to be horrendously killed across infinite variations of timelines. Forever. >Numidium is just Golden Experience Requiem
what the
does it really have to be that esoteric? all advanced civilizations fall eventually. maybe they just ran out of energy? maybe their machines became too dangerous?
>does it really have to be that esoteric
Yeah, since we know for a fact that the entire race vanished all at once during the climax of a massive battle after their leader striked the heart of a god with magical reality-manipulating tools, the mystery is where they went after disappearing, not the actual cause or events leading to their disappearence.
>the mystery is where they went after disappearing, not the actual cause or events leading to their disappearence.
We also don't know the cause since we don't know whether the Numidium's activation actually worked. It could be that it worked and the awakened Numidium zapped them away intentionally, or it could be that there was a freak accident in the Numidium's activation that backfired and that's what zapped them away.
In Tribunal, you literally find piles of dust of the seats of the fabricant dwemer city and find a dwemer ghost
They didn't "go somewhere", the all just died after zero-summing
You find Dwemer ghosts all over the place in motherfricking vanilla Morrowind. Their existence was never explained, so you CAN make that theory, but another explanation could be that those are Dwemer who died before everyone vanished. Since Yagrum is still around, we know the vanishing wasn't all-encompassing so it's possible that already dead ghosts weren't affected.
More than likely ghosts aren't exactly the actual spirits of the dead, more like an impression of them pulled from the summoner. Some ghosts might actually be returned revenants, but most are not.
>Since the disappearance of the Dwarves, I have been alone in this world, trapped in this grim prison. I can scarcely move.
>Once I was a Master Crafter in the service of Lord Kagrenac, chief architect of the great Second Empire freeholds, and the greatest enchanter of his time. I could not match the genius of Lord Kagrenac, but what he could envision, I and my colleagues could build. All of that is gone forever. I still retain my cunning, but my hands and eyes fail me, and my memories have long faded. My only consolation is each day to mock the gods who destroyed my race, and condemned me to this bleak existence.
>ancient mesopotamians were teleported to nirn with their ancient alien technology (why do you think they were the first with a writing system?) and disappeared in an experiment where they wanted transport back to earth
bravo todd
Surely there should be other Dwemer still alive in Aetherius and Oblivion. It's fricking stupid that Yagrum is the only one that returned to Mundus and Bethesda never really followed up on that lore thread. Falion in Skyrim mentions he's traveled to Oblivion and met actual living Dwemer there, so at least that shows that the writers still remember. I wouldn't discount the idea that we might see more living Dwemer at some point in a future game.
All the dwemer that weren't Mundus were spared for some reason. I do hope that in the next game those dwemer return from oblivion and try to resurect their dead race. Imo it would be awesome if the dwemer came back in reality jumping airships and invaded tameriel with advanced steam punk type weapons.
>be dwemer >seethe that you're shitty mortals infinitely below the gods >cope by being all scientific and rational like, tip fedora everytime some hick Xmer starts talking about blahblahblah my ancestors >keep to your studying >suddenly come to shocking realization >the entire universe is, quite literally, made up nonsense >their entire shtick of trying to act so cool and euphoric by making rational sense of the world is completely meaningless because the secret answer to everything is just multiple layers of "uh.. its magic?" >no longer want to live in this fictional universe anymore where logic is a meme, decide to make your own universe with math and physics >decide to achieve this my tapping into the moronation power of this universe to build an infinite fedora tipping computer god machine whose sole purpose is to be so autistic as to refute the entire universe and pull down the curtain and all its smoke and mirrors until there is nothing left but itself from where it will build the universe how it should be >your finally there, one last piece to the puzzle and autism computer god is finished... then... poof something fricks up, the plan doesn't work for whatever reason (probably something to do with yagrum bagarn)
>what happened to the dwemers?
they disappeared when Kagrenac struck the heart of Lorkhan with the tools, sunder and keening.
there are piles of ash and Dwarven ghosts in Dwemer ruins.
they couldn't achieve CHIM so they zero-summed and vanished from existence
>when will they bring them back steampunk was cool...
"sooryy maight, can't do it. might scare the normies off, and we do like theer monay 🙂 " -Todd Howard, Servant of Zenimax circa SKYRIM6.1
>bringing back dwemer
shitty fanfic-tier idea, they served their purpose
Sort of had an idea for how to reasonable shoe-horn dwemer into a game set in like Elseweyr or Summerset where they didn't have anything settlements.
The gist of the idea is that a dwemer tonal architect basically built a device to quickly build new cities for the dwemer, though never quite hammered all the details out before poofing. Years later some dumb shmuck picks it up and now dwemer settlements are springing up all over the province like a fricking steampunk herpes infection and is putting nirn at risk of basically experiencing a Grey Goo scenario. You also get random poor sods half-fused to dwemer constructs and shambling around as mechanical zombies.
>what happened to the dwemers?
they disappeared when Kagrenac struck the heart of Lorkhan with the tools, sunder and keening.
there are piles of ash and Dwarven ghosts in Dwemer ruins.
they couldn't achieve CHIM so they zero-summed and vanished from existence
>when will they bring them back steampunk was cool...
"sooryy maight, can't do it. might scare the normies off, and we do like theer monay 🙂 " -Todd Howard, Servant of Zenimax circa SKYRIM6.1
If you're an actual, discerning TES fan then their return should be the last thing you should ever want. I'm not even joking, it would be the fricking death of TES.
They realized they are a dream of a god (video game character) and rather than pick the path of CHIM (dreaming their own dream). They picked the right hand path and ceased to be, becoming just an idea in god's head (a video game concept).
He didn't. He approached chim, realized he was too much of a b***h to attempt it, and then pretended like he succeeded. (If he did there would be no reason for him to keep appearing in the world. Tiber Septim is the only one who actually did it)
just a unique texture and object in the games. I think both have had a lot of genuine discussion on "what is this and why is it here?" on the internet, just because people are always looking to put meaning into nothing in particular, just like the image suggests they are doing, though the one on the left is enjoying it for what it is, and the other is not appreciating it for what it isnt
Main difference between the Boomer and the Zoomer mindset, Boomers enjoy using their imagination while Zoomers enjoy making cringy youtube videos explaining the dark unexplained lore to braindead kids, and all for the likes and subscribes.
It's 50/50
She doesn't show her face, so obviously it must be a troony because women love to do that
But then trannies love to parade themselves in public just as much, if not more
I'm finally playing through Elden Ring, blind and this is how I'm looking at things specifically because it's enhancing my enjoyment. I genuinely don't want to know, because the explanation for everything in that game is just depression. The quests genuinely have some of the most dissatisfying endings, I'd rather just keep stumbling into random bosses and letting my poor sense of direction lead me to bizarre corners of the map. Last night I was doing that quest for the blind girl with the castle and the ugly fricking bird people or whatever they were. There's this field near it with a bunch of mages and one tall blue dude practicing like gravity magic or some shit. No idea what that is and I liked that. Random knight boss that only shows up if you go there at night, that boss was so much fun. The first time I unhorsed him and realized he could just summon up a new one. Realizing the fight was easier off my horse than on it because I could guard and it was easier to aim my blows.
When I was pretty much done with the whole area I just looked at the map and said "Alright, what shit haven't I done yet?" and I remembered that Garrunk thing or whatever you're supposed to feed deathroot to. I tried going there once but just kept getting invaded by the same person over and over and that got boring so I decided to put it off. So I head off in that direction and somehow get turned around and end up in Caelid.
To me, Elden Ring takes it a bit too far where everything is so obtuse it actually loses a lot of it's impact, and I appreciate it more now that I actually understand what the order was and the motivations behind a lot of the people you fight.
Even watching other people play, they'd get to the last two bosses and have no idea who/what they are or what they're even really trying to accomplish. Sure if you just want a one and done experience and you don't care about it, that's fine but there definitely is some depth to what's going on that can enrich the experience.
It's just unfortunate that it got turned into a money-making thing where dudes on youtube would philosophize for an hour over the meaning of the placement of an oddly textured brick and shit like that. People are going too far in the other direction now saying if you care about lore at all it's bad, and it just comes off as contrarianism.
>obtuse
ER is the most straightforward one of these games
Anything that's obtuse is intentionally so, and still presented to the player in a fairly up front manner
To me, Elden Ring takes it a bit too far where everything is so obtuse it actually loses a lot of it's impact, and I appreciate it more now that I actually understand what the order was and the motivations behind a lot of the people you fight.
Even watching other people play, they'd get to the last two bosses and have no idea who/what they are or what they're even really trying to accomplish. Sure if you just want a one and done experience and you don't care about it, that's fine but there definitely is some depth to what's going on that can enrich the experience.
It's just unfortunate that it got turned into a money-making thing where dudes on youtube would philosophize for an hour over the meaning of the placement of an oddly textured brick and shit like that. People are going too far in the other direction now saying if you care about lore at all it's bad, and it just comes off as contrarianism.
Literally just read the items you find, it's that simple. Of course, to be fair Ranni's quest is by far the most informative of what's going on in the game.
There's a happy medium between these two wherein you can know in the back of your mind that it was done for the express purpose of being mysterious and letting your mind wander, but you can also discuss what it might be and the various theories other people have. Ultimately, the only canon that matters is the one you create and believe. Trying to find an answer is doing it wrong.
And posting Dwemer kino for the hell of it.
c**ts to absolutely everyone they interacted with. The Dwemer were feared and reviled throughout Northern Tamriel and the possibility of their return kept people up at night for generations after they disappeared. Their atrocities were in all likelyhood as bad as the Ayleids, but less well recorded.
Literally the only time they had a positive relationship with another race was with The Chimer under Lord Nerevar, but even then this was more of a strategic alliance of convenience against the invading Nords that dissolved when Nerevar caught wind that Kagenerac was up to something shady.
Slightly different High Elves who lived in and ruled Cyrodiil and parts of Black Marsh in ancient times, organized in many different city-states, most or some of which became rather degenerate daedra worshippers who treated their human slaves pretty badly, thus leading to the Alessian Slave Revolt, where their human slaves succesfully revolted against them with the help of some divine intervention and subsequently founded the First Empire of Cyrodiil.
The Ayleids kingdoms that weren't evil were kept around as vassal states of the First Empire until a crazy human supremacist cult took over and dismantles the last Ayleid kingdoms, the remnants of whom fled Cyrodiil and became scattered throughout Tamriel, and might still be around.
High elves from the mainland, who were very skilled in magic and liberal. Liberal enough to start worshipping all the Daedra, not just a few like Chimer/Dunmer. This lead to political instability (most Deadra don't like each other like Mephala/Boethia/Azura) and angered Aedra, which helped humans organize a slave revolt (also Lorkhan helped as well, because he likes humans and sent his reincarnation from the future - Pelinal). Some Ayelids were spared, because they helped humans and worshipped Aedra, but they got killed by religious fanatics in the following centuries.
Ayleids were originally created as a race of Wild Elf enemies with their own Elvish language in Daggerfall, but all of this was cut from the game.
This book exists in Daggerfall, as a sort of meta reference to this scrapped idea:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Wild_Elves
Later, Oblivion greatly expanded on Ayleids and their history:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Last_King_of_the_Ayleids
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Magic_from_the_Sky
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Before_the_Ages_of_Man#The_Merethic_Era
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Adabal-a
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Shezarr_and_the_Divines
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Trials_of_St._Alessia
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal
Admittedly, Oblivion is fricking terrible at incorporating its lore into its shittily designed world, but I think it has some of the absolute best lore in the series.
>Visits to Aetherius occur even less frequently than to Oblivion, for the void is a long expanse and only the stars offer portal for aetherial travel, or the judicious use of magic. The expeditions of the Reman Dynasty and the Sun Birds of Alinor are the most famous attempts in our histories, and it is a cosmic irony that both of them were eventually dissolved for the same reason: the untenable expenditures required to reach magic by magicka. Their only legacy is the Royal Imperial Mananauts of the Elder Council and the great Orrery at Firsthold, whose spheres are made up of genuine celestial mineral gathered by travelers during the Merethic Era.
Pelinal being some sort of Cyborg or golem was in faxt precisely what the writer was going for in The Song of Pelinal in-game books in his own words and the Barenziah books are not "confirmed propaganda" (in fact Barenziah herself says the author is good as trustworthy in-game) and the teslore gays are not particularly interested on it, so I don't get why even include it on the pic in the first place
Also what the frick is "ambiguity of the hist"?
>Also what the frick is "ambiguity of the hist"?
I'm guessing it means that what exactly the hist *are* besides weird sentient wonder-trees is left deliberately ambiguous.
Also unreliable, contradictory, and very far-out sources are essentially what makes TES unique and generally you should take anything you don't directly see happen in the games with a grain of salt. In essence, it's sort of the anti-loregay game because there isn't a straight answer on fricking anything.
It's funny how everybody completely fricking ignores the one actual appearence of a Hist Tree in the mainline games because it was depicted as a powerless slave of the Blackwood Company instead of an all-poweful hivemind that can instantly hijack Argonians at will that most loregays hype them up to be
I remember reading a fanfic about argonians and the hist from one of those Kirkbride fans and they made sure to include a line about how whichever Hist Tree got taken to Cyrodiil by mercenaries probably wasn't a real Hist
I thought the Hist tree was manipulating the Blackwood Company and not the other way around. Either way it was single, tiny sapling while Black Marsh has a potentially country-sized network of Hist trees that are potentially older than time itself. And the Hist telepathically called in Argonians and wiped the floor with Dagon's armies so it's confirmed they ARE an insanely powerful hivemind when they need to be, they just don't give a frick about most conflicts.
The hist have individual wills and there can be rogue actors just like with mortals however the more likely explanation is that tree didn't take any action to protect itself because their future plans and calculations either hinged on or weren't effected by it's personal condition. Same reason why they give argonians free will and let them proliferate on their own. Easier to use when needed rather than control 24/7
9 months ago
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Yeah nah sorry this all still sounds like gay fanfic bullshit. Elder Scrolls lore peaked with Viking Warlord Jesus, everything else may as well have been written by a teenage Deviantart furry.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It was. MK is that writing style embodied. And I love it. TES is a very silly series when you really look at it. Impossible to take seriously. and the lore is crazy enough to mesh with that
9 months ago
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Tiber Septim was a gay politcian who retired from the Battlefield as soon as he could because he preferred court intrigue, and most of his military exploits were actually done by a Nord king turned Cloud entity, whom he later betrayed because he was that much of a israelite
9 months ago
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How many dragon breaks would it take to make Septim straight?
9 months ago
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why the frick is tiber septim like 3 or 4 people?
9 months ago
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It was part of the process of becoming talos.
9 months ago
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what the frick is talos?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Hjalti, Ysmir, and Zurin, walker of all six ways.
9 months ago
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Enantiomorph.
learn your lore.
9 months ago
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real life reason: because in daggerfall he was presented as a breton born in alcaire but then kirkbride came in to rewrite the whole universe in redguard's lore book and made him a nord named talos out of nowhere
when he realized he fricked up he added a book to morrowind that resolved it by giving him multiple disputed identities, and then that got rolled up with the mantling shit to make it all one ascended emperor god of them all merged
tes lore has always been flying by the seat of its pants
>Also what the frick is "ambiguity of the hist"?
I'm guessing it means that what exactly the hist *are* besides weird sentient wonder-trees is left deliberately ambiguous.
Also unreliable, contradictory, and very far-out sources are essentially what makes TES unique and generally you should take anything you don't directly see happen in the games with a grain of salt. In essence, it's sort of the anti-loregay game because there isn't a straight answer on fricking anything.
>Hist Tree >History >Come from a previous time.
Bravo Kirkbride.
Hell, even the things that happen in-game are to be taken with a grain of salt. The games feel like you're living a fictitious account of a legend of a folk hero instead of the actual, real world events. That's how I reconcile all the characters doing gamebreaking moronic shit (especially in Morrowind). Like, I can imagine someone going "I heard the Nerevarine could leap all the way across Vvardenfell" but of course he couldn't actually do that.
>Hey what’s up guys we’re the Dwemer, we’re all about facts and logic here. Hell, even the gods are all facts and logic. Nothing’s unexplainable. They’re just really strong beings. It’s all science and shit. >Oh frick we just learned the truth of our existence and apparently we’re not real?! But how can we not be real if I’m here to think these thoughts? How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren’t real? AAAA *poof*
Meanwhile Vivec >Dog none of this shit is real I’m gonna go FRICK Molag Bal LMFAO IM like GOD or some Shit
They're easy to pronounce when you chunk them. >Addad >Shashan >Ammu
Kinda like those weird looking Japanese words. In a hypothetical Dwemer language, those chunks would probably each mean something and it'd be something akin to those long ass German words
>they find the heart of lorkhan >they frick with it >they all get erased from reality/sent to a shounen anime dimension, whatever happened they were never heard from again, oddly dead dwemer were not subject to whatever happened because their ghosts are still around
Even if they're called ghosts, it's more like they're just empty phantoms or shades of the dwemer, otherwise I can't see why someone wouldn't just thall one or summon one of the ghosts with intelligence to learn secrets about them like we see people do in other games
in elder scrolls 6 the dwarves will come out of hiding underground, all around tamriel dwarven camps, strongholds, and even cities have risen to get their revenge
but the legends tell of one they fear, the dwemerkin, the one who can harness the dwarves mechanical powers and turn it against them
the most possible reason is that he was in a portal from/to Aetherius, outside of existence when the poof happened, so he didn't reach the realization of CHIM and zero sum, but I like the explanation that he's Kagernac himself
also explains how he can recreate wraithguard as one last spit in Vivec's face
Because the Dwemer never actually vanished.
Well they did, in a sense.
the dwemer are truthfully the "Dunmer" whom they in a sense became, but more closely, always had been.
Kagrenac (yagrum bagarn) touched the heart and confused reality, wiping the slate and creating a new genesis for the dunmer. Those who escaped the apocalyptic eruption of dagoth ur came out of their caves into this new unknown world scared and confused, left to pick up the pieces of what happened. It was then that the demon gods of the tribunal came and told them carefully crafted lies, lies of fake ancestors called the chimer (changed mer!) who fought and defeated the dwemer, turned them against their own true ancestors for daedra!
>the dwarves all sacrificed themselves to become the god numidium >but it was all for nothing because one dwarf was missing, yagrum couldnt be sacrificed because he was in the outer realm when it happened
Everyone always ask's what the frick happened to the Dwemer but what I'm honestly more confused about is why the frick didn't Yagrum get zero summed too?
>Why is this even a question?
if you actually played morrowind you should understand that its a mediocre game thats kept alive by people who hate playing video games arguing over inane things and literally copy-pasting wiki posts
>its a mediocre game
Morrowind was well received by critics. It was congratulated most frequently for its breadth of scope, the richness of its visuals, and the freedom it worked into its design. Alongside the compliments, however, came criticism that the game designers had overstretched themselves, leaving glitches in various spots, and made a game too taxing to be run on an average machine, with one reviewer calling it "a resource pig".[58] In a retrospective by 1Up, the breadth and open-endedness of Morrowind are suggested to have contributed to the decline of single-player RPGs on home computers by leading customers to MMORPGs, where they could have a similar experience.[78]
In spite of this, reviewers generally felt that the drawbacks of the game were minor in comparison to its strengths. IGN concluded that "Morrowind isn't perfect and its system requirements are huge; but its accomplishments outweigh any reservations."[72] GameSpot's review concluded with a similar summation. "Morrowind does have numerous drawbacks ... But they're all generally minor enough that most anyone should be able to look past them ... They'll otherwise find that Morrowind fulfills its many ambitious intentions. It's a beautiful-looking, sprawling, and completely open-ended game that allows you to play pretty much however you like".[11]
The game environment of Morrowind was applauded as large and richly detailed, particularly for its real-time weather effects, day/night cycle,[79] and its great variety of plant and animal life.[6][11][14][58] Xbox Nation commended the game for its "sheer scope", and credited that aspect as the game's "biggest selling point", though it criticized the slowdowns and questing complexities that resulted from it.[80] In contrast to the "generic"[15] nature of Daggerfall's design, reviewers found Morrowind's design spectacular, varied,[58] and stunning.[11] GameSpot stated that "Simply exploring Morrowind is possibly the best thing about it."[11]
>entire socio-religious philosophy is based on trying to disprove things >decide to build a God who embodies the philosophy of disproving things >God takes this philosophy to its logical extreme and disproves the contemporaneous existence of the Dwemer, causing them all to vanish/become the skin of their God >surprised_pikachu.jpg
There was some other wacky stuff at play, but that was the gist of it.
>Be race of properly autistic golden skinned polymaths >Enshrine skepticism as a pseudo-religious principle >Tap into divinity to try to determine the fundamental properties of the universe >Accidentally prove that you don't exist with FACTS and LOGIC >Get solved out of reality like a math equation
>House Dres somehow becomes one of the main proponents of the abolition of slavery despite its entire economy being based on exports from slave-labor plantations
So did Morrowind's admittance into the Empire just provide such a huge swath of cheap labour that the second-most traditionalist House after Indoril decided that rentire agrarianism was more profitable than slavery?
Their stance changed somewhere between Morrowind and Oblivion, as some idle NPC chatter in the latter is where you hear that Dres and IIRC Hlaalu? were rejoicing over the abolition of slavery.
kek, my only explanation would be that they don't need to buy slaves anymore and set up a "company store system" where they don't pay their employees real money, but some sort of vouchers
I like to think that the Dres and Hlaalu just tricked the Empire and pulled a Dren Plantation on a much larger scale, gives one more reason for the Argonians to still want to invade them 5 years later
I dunno If It was on purpose, but it's a really underrated little worldbuilding element how the PGE 3 acts as if Black Marsh is fine and dandy now that slavery has been abolished, describing border skirmishes between the Argonians and the Dunmer and Imperial troops getting ambushed in the deep marsh as just tiny temporary problems in a nation with a bright and peaceful future ahead, but then NPCs describe Black Marsh as being more violent than ever before, with colonists regularly disappearing, and in the next game you find out that the argonians were the first ones to secede from the Empire and that they invaded Morrowind and all, really makes It seem that the Empire's sheer incompetence and refusal to deal with the An-xileel due to thinking that the abolishment of slavery in Morrowind solved everything ended up coming back to haunt them and basically caused their territorial decline in the 4th era.
In Morrowind, It was said that House Dres were traditionalist slavers who were extremely resistant to change and abolitionism, but in Oblivion, just half a decade later, NPCs talk about the Dres willingly giving up on slavery in exchange for an alliance with the Hlaalu against Indoril, which doesn't make any sense whatsoever going by what we knew about House Dres previously but eh, I guess they were the only available option for such a role so Bethesda went with it.
One does wonder what House Hlaalu offered to House Dres for them to willingly give up the practice which the entirety of their culture and economy has revolved around for the past thousands of years though. You think they changed the chains on their banners for something else?
Starfield out in 2 weeks and I've just started playing Skyrim as a Nord named Bjorn the Burly. Going 2 handed with self-buff magic for some extra defence.
play vanilla
then google how to get the boots of blinding speed and how to exploit magic resistance to avoid the blindness >durr durr google gaming, durr durr I don't want to cheat or break the game
no, you think you don't but you do, the game has a lot of walking and a lot of fetch quests
it's better that you save your mind and time rather than getting the authentic walking simulator experience
if you choose to ignore my advice at least remember it, for when you realize you don't want to spend any more time walking at the speed of a wagon missing 3 wheels
There is enchantment and magic, and also stats, I guess.
The gigajump is a pretty funny way to travel, superior to the boots in raw speed.
Am I missing anything?
It's ultimately up to personal preference and the game is fine to play purely vanilla, but most would say you want Morrowind Code Patch at the bare minimum to fix some engine issues and instability
MGE XE can improve the graphics greatly without needing to change any art itself, by implementing various shaders and improving draw distance and FOV for widescreen resolutions
If you aren't using any other mods that fix the expansion intros, then I also recommend at least this one, which implements a feature from the Xbox GOTY version that never made it to the PC for some reason, which makes it so you aren't immediately attacked by assassins from the first expansion on new characters: https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/43477
Depending on where you got the game, you may or may not have the free official DLC included. They can be downloaded separately here if you want it: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Plugins
after you chim'd successfully you'd probably spend an era or 2 messing with the beings inhabiting the wheel then you'd get bored and blink yourself out to see if there's anything else outside of it or just cause you're done and you can't go back to the rules if you know. time wouldn't matter either so it's hard to think about how you'd perceive your desires ever changing or even having desires anymore.
Chim is lucid dreaming. When you're
dreaming, normally you don't even realize what's going on or have any control... so in the rare event lucidity happens you either wake up and are no longer participating in the dream, or you wrestle control of your own dream and steer it the way you want.
That and it also requires extreme metaphysical enlightenment and insight into the nature of reality that is inaccessible to all but the most powerful beings in the setting. Most of the aedra and daedra don't even fully get it. Vivec definitely doesn't get it but he pretends he does.
When you make your class at the start simply choose a race with a combat skill you want to use and then choose that skill as one of your primary skills. Wow. Now you can hit things. Wowee..you made a build
If you want a nice early-game boost to combat, "The Warrior" sign is better than it looks. The game doesn't communicate it well during character creation but the "+10 to attack" essentially means a flat +10% chance to hit with all weapons, almost as good as getting a permanent +10 to all weapon skills, including ranged weapons.
>Be dwemer >seething at the gods who poofed all your people while you slowly die of AIDS in a cave >Suddenly the semi-reincarnation of the dude who launched a crusade against you waltzes in with the finest tools of your lost people >tell you to fix it wagie >he Proceeds to get the same AIDS you do but gets cured, granting near immortality >he proceeds to finish the job, gets a blowjob from the god you dont think exists >proceed to have your head smashed in by him with those same tools
The Elder Scrolls Universe through Chim as a force has been described as a harmonious orchestra, every instrument playing a specific way, with perfect timing. The slightest deviation could have catastrophic effects.
The Dwemer in the experiments, did the equivalent of walking on the stage of said orchestra, banging a pot with a hammer as loud as possible.
Because of this, the universe VIOLENTLY corrected reality to avoid catasrophe.
It did this by wiping all Dwemer from existence in the blink of an eye, only those outside of Mundus at the time were spared. Such has Yagrum Bagarn.
That's the coolest theory anyway, but disregard any others because they're boring and for losers.
Are there any arts of the Colored Room?
Can someone explain what was meant by Meridia consorting with Daedra, what exactly would one of Magnus's/a fragment of Magnus himself (?) need from Daedra that she couldn't achieve on her own?
>Numidium
The Walk Brass. It's a big dwemer robot built to assume the "place" of the dead god Lorkhan.
The Dwemer were smart and realized that through logic and reason reality was a dream with inconsistent rules and an unreliable narration. Unsatisfied with reality, they desired to create a reality that would function through logic and reasoning, not fleeting ideas and intentions. >CHIM
The TES universe exists in the dream of a entity referred to as the Godhead who's real name is supposedly Anu, Achieving CHIM is the process of becoming a new "dreamer" and thus a new godhead existing within Anu.
If one achieves CHIM, they basically create a new reality, because Anu even has his own backstory that makes it sound like he's just another guy in some other reality (Where his brother killed his wife or some shit).
The Dwemer basically constructed a god powered by the very heart of reality so that it would become the next dreamer. Using a form of reality manipulating magic called tonal magic, they attempted to enter the Numidium's dream-reality but they fricked up and merged with it, or possibly zero-summed >Zero Summed
The idea is if you become truly aware you're in a dream, you poof out of existence. Some people think the Dwemer in their attempt to activity the Numidium came to this true realization and poofed.
>Yagrum
Fat dwarf who was in a plane of oblivion at the time the Dwemer vanished which spared him of their fate.
>because Anu even has his own backstory that makes it sound like he's just another guy in some other reality (Where his brother killed his wife or some shit).
Could be a lie that's meant just to break him, or as a pretend reason to set the contents of the dream be in a specific way.
Could be just a myth. Like, set aside Kirbride's rambling and loregay theories - official games don't really tell you that much, on what esoteric lore from in-game books is true or not.
>, because Anu even has his own backstory that makes it sound like he's just another guy in some other reality (Where his brother killed his wife or some shit).
>TeS thread >Always some homosexual who goes "that's wrong" without elaborating.
The dwemer did not believe in the gods
The dwemer were not consciously aware of reality being a dream
Anu is one of the highest level forces in reality, along with Padomay
The process of replacing the godhead and becoming the dreamer is amaranth, chim is completely different
You dumb Black person
>The Dwemer did not believe in gods
They didn't believe what people called gods were in fact gods. They still had the heart of Lorkhan and understood its power. >The Dwemer were not consciously aware of reality being a dream
They were as close to it as possible. The ultimate skeptics of reality itself. Tonal magic, tricking "omniscient" meme demons? They knew they were on a stage, but they couldn't break the act. If you were in the matrix and started seeing evidence that it was a simulation but had never actually escaped the matrix how certain would you be that it's all bullshit? A part of you would cling to what it known and the Dwemer were no different. >Anu is one of the highest forces in reality
Do not confuse Anu the abstract force and Anu the god head. >Amaranth is not Chim
I've been in threads where this is highly debated. Either CHIM is Amaranth or a step towards Amaranth.
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>They still had the heart of Lorkhan and understood its power.
Which is irrelevant to the point >A part of you would cling to what it known and the Dwemer were no different.
You're projecting your own framework onto their experience
We don't know exactly why gravity exists, it's a little weird when you hyper-analyze it, maybe that's evidence that our reality is fake that someone in a more real reality would immediately clock as a tell- but nobody in ours thinks that, it's just part of the universe we live in >Do not confuse Anu the abstract force and Anu the god head.
not real >Either CHIM is Amaranth or a step towards Amaranth.
They are distinct even in exclusively in-game sources, not that you're aware of anything outside of that
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>Irrelevant to the point
You're bringing up the gods for no reason. The fact of the matter is they created the Walk Brass to achieve Amaranth, they very clearly understood a bit about how the cosmological mechanics work even if they refuse to acknowledge the "divines". >You're projecting your own experience, we don't know what they were thinking.
True, but their entire culture would imply they were on the verge of understanding reality was a dream. >Not real
cope >They are distinct
Literally the last thread I was in had an autistic rant about CHIM and how it was literally just Amaranth and not what Viviec was actually faking.
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>I've been in threads where this is highly debated. Either CHIM is Amaranth or a step towards Amaranth
They're separate things but achieve the same goal. It's the 6 walking ways Chim and Mantling are just .
No you’re thinking of Amouranth, CHIM is just realising you are in a dream but still having the force of will to assert yourself as real and keep your sense of self. It’s like lucid dreaming, you get the cheat codes and can change the dream but you aren’t the dreamer, that’s still Anu.
Tiber Septim used it to remake the jungle of Cyrodiil into the boring western fantasy land you see in Oblivion so it would be more hospitable for his people
As great as baldurs gate 3 is, me running into this dwemer is a greater more impactful moment than all of new vegas or bg3. That's how godlike morrowind is. Frick you.
Nerevar (pbuh) genocided them in the battle of red mountain.
Whenever you are indecisive about something, its always the oral traditions and epic poems of the ashlanders that are true and written books are lying.
Dwemer realize that Gods are spirits too, but more powerful, less drained out by Mundus than mortal ones.
In that regard they just probably wanted to become their own dreamers - Anu.
It would be stupid to still worship gods when you live in an advanced self sufficient society like the dwemer. Other peasant races have to pray to the gods for their cabbage harvest because they don't know modern farming
No reason why can't keep religion for aesthetic and wholesome purposes. Well, not that there's much wholesome about most spirits in TES, but broadly speaking, staying together with the gods can be romantic.
They literally unthought themselves out of existence. Elder Scrolls is a metaphoric representation of hyperbolic story telling personified through, you, the player
I think someone said that they tried to harness the power of a heart of a "god", but then the other gods got upset and trapped them in another dimension or suspended/froze them in another dimension, and are keeping them there for like 3 or 6 thousand years, or until they learn their lesson.
I'd hope they'd return and be more religious, but still invent cool stuff, but it's too late for that, because b*thesda is only doing woke stuff now.
If that was true the Tribunal would have gotten assfricked a long time ago. Instead, the Vivec made Azura suck his wiener and then explode using the heart.
I hate crashing at the mages guild and having my shit all over the place. Isn't there a good house mod that isn't a fricking mansion or in fricking nowhere? I'd love to be able to rent a motel room with some shelves and a bed and maybe a chest.
>People are still discussing Morrowind story & lore 25 years later >Nobody ever discusses Oblivion and Skyrim's stories, because they're so generic and forgettable
Insane how far Bethesda fell
In fairness to Skyrim people will still talk about who's better between the Stormcloaks and Imperials.
But yeah I don't see anyone talking about the actual story of Oblivion most discussion is about bugs or the world itself (or about all the retcons).
oblivion has some decent lore bits but there's not much to discuss except for the shit about mankar claiming that tamriel is lorkhan's realm of oblivion. also people still keep bringing up pelinal.
My favorite theory is the popular one that just plays it straight and says they fricked up a calculation and deleted themselves.
Unresolved, unmysterious, no super long winding series of bookends, just oops, oh frick, no more Dwemer.
dammit bros you actually got me to waste my time reading the wiki, and I remembered I haven't even finished skyrim yet because of mod autism
I feel like starting morrowind now
It's mostly Gnosticism with some Abrahamic and maybe Hindu and Buddhist stuff (I don't know enough about those).
That said, disregard some of it because it's Kirkbride's personal takes or loregay theories.
It's terribly pozzed. I already mentioned it into other threads, but for example, when you brainwash some altmer woman from isolationist (aka muh racist) faction into being a notSpriggan queen of Valenwood, but brainwashing is ok because we are the good guys or something. And that's one that's deeply sick to me, there is the usual shit, like dunmer running of with argonian slave and so on.
Pozzed.
I don't know about polit ops, it's more that I don't want such garbage in my fantasy entertainment. Although as I said, that one is at least typical. One with brainwashing just makes quest writers seem tone deaf or whatever. Your typical libshit would scream about my body my choice and such things, yet we get brainwashing.
ESO greatly misunderstands what the relationship between Dunmer and Argonians is supposed to be like. The Dunmer don't see the lizards as an inferior people who are better off as their slaves like in real life european chattel slavery, they see lizards and Khajiit as literally just two species of intelligent animals, and in the case of the Argonians, they're also deeply disgusted by them and consider them blasphemous travesties of nature whom they enslave primarily because they despise them that much. There having 100% indigenous Dunmer abolitionists makes no fricking sense, and there having so many Dunmer who are willing to bang them (most of whom are gay oddly enough) makes even less sense, they should have at least depicted It as some fricking peta-esque thing rather than an actual abolitionist movement. I'd also mention how they'd never enter a military alliance with lizards but the whole fricking faction war is nonsensical.
This is an example of the wider phenomenon of the very sterilized and stupidly modern way ESO writes the TES setting. Altmer are no longer an entire society fanatic isolationist eugenicists who are willing to pay tribute to the Second Empire in exchange for no one ever visiting Alinor, Second Era Orcs are no longer treated as literally just a type of big Goblin who are killed on sight, Bosmer are no longer an entire society of religious cannibals, now only a tiny minority of them are! It's all very silly and It just shows the writers aren't willing to drop their modern sensibilities, makes the setting lose its edge and feel like some whimsical nu-dnd game that happens to be TES themed. It's not the only issue with the game of course, but I think that's what that anon was talking about, it's not just a silly /misc/ thing.
I'll just say this outright.
If you think ESO is good, then you plain and simply have no idea what made the elder scrolls setting good in the first place.
Its the cynical theme park version of elder scrolls. It does everything to convince you otherwise other than build an actual living breathing setting.
Jokes on you, I never actually played it. I'm making posts to hear what others think about it. I don't really play games anymore, other than occasional roguelike.
>dwemer philosodwarves invent simulation theory >dwemer scidwarves become convinced they inhabit a simulation >dewmer scidwarves & engidwarves break the fourth wall, access the console >accidentally dwemer.kill >poof
I spent like damn near 150 bucks to get the "complete" experience of ESO at 40-35% off without buyng ESO+ (40% off the 21k crown pack, 35% off the delux necron collection). Just need to wait for some of the lesser-important DLC bundles to go on sale in the crown store. Only DLC I bought "full price" was the bundle that gets you the thieves/brotherhood guilds and the orc homeland one. Managed to snag the Reach bundle at 41% off at the last day. I have like 101 bag slots and 60 bank slots so far at level 12, went with a Redguard Templar. How far into the game do you think I can get as a non-subbed, purely B2P consumer?
Brotip: You can buy an expansion/DLC/whatever on Steam, refund it, and keep the game on your ESO account. I don't suspect this would be abusable though but it's how I got Blackwood a few years back. A /vg/ anon gifted me some areas and I need to finish Northern Elsweyr sometime.
That's cool to know, thanks anon. I just finished getting myself certified to do crafting dailies, and so far I'm using about 70% of my overall storage just for ingredients. I can see how the unlimited crafting bag would be a big deal but I really, really want to avoid getting involved in any subsription services or battle pass shit.
>I really, really want to avoid getting involved in any subsription services or battle pass shit
this is why I don't play any online GaaS shit even if I would be interested
I was one of those dumbasses who bought diablo 4 and I also had the bright idea to give fallout 76 a try on gamepass and I ended up stuck in fomo BS, logging in every day just to do chores in games i didn't care about in order to finish the battlepass. I hate them so much. I finished and uninstalled those games last week and the freedom is just so liberating. Don't be like me, anon.
Yeah dude I was under 2 hours and there was literal false advertisment on what you get from the store page so it was an easy quick refund on their end and free hours of gametime for me. 🙂
>Poetry fricking sucks as a building material I tell you hwat
Funny cause ESO devs claim that Altmer buildings used to be described as being made out of "poetry", and that's why they NEEDED to have them live in generic castles instead. It's why I asked
poetry? The frick. The Pocket Guide, First Edition describes the architecture of alinor like this: >A forbidden city for nearly fifty years, Alinor is both capital of the Summerset Isles and the heart of the Aldmeri Dominion. Human traders were only allowed at its ports, and they described the city as "made from glass or insect wings." Less fantastic accounts come from the Imperial emissaries of the Reman Dynasty, which describe the city as straight and glimmering, "a hypnotic swirl of ramparts and impossibly high towers, designed to catch the light of the sun and break it to its component colors, which lies draped across its stones until you are thankful for nightfall."
The ESO devs and artists are literal pseuds. The game is 99% GENERIC fantasy and I mean really generic ,but once in a while they throw in a line of dialogue directly referencing (rather than just subtly implying or nodding it like the real games do) obscure schizo lore so people think that means the whole game is centered on the esoteric and fantastic lore which it absolutely is not.
To be fair, I don't think they could do those even if they wanted to. It's just too big of a thing and at least Falinesti got asspulled into not being in the game at all. The Altmer shit is different since Crystal buildings are perfectly doable and they had to lie to justify not doing it.
World of Warcraft's Silvermoon city was already out there, it was proof that you can make a city with those aesthetics. but that would have required both talent and creativity, both things that ESO devs lack.
Yep, people shill It by claiming it's the weirdest TES has been since Morrowind or something but It's just Oblivion on a much larger scale, and the few good things It did do aren't anywhere near as good as Oblivion's good shit.
The Ashlanders knew all along >And so the Chimer and Dwemer went to war. The Dwemer were well-defended by their fortress at Red Mountain, but the bravery and cleverness of Nerevar's queen and generals drew most of Dumac's armies out into the field and kept them there, so that Nerevar and Dagoth-Ur could make their way into the Heart Chamber by secret means. There, Nerevar met Dumac and the Dwarf King and they both fell from grievous wounds. Dagoth-Ur slew Kagrenac and took the tools the Dwemer used to tap the power of the Heart. He went to his dying lord Nerevar and asked him what to do with these tools. And Nerevar summoned Azura again, and she showed them how to use the tools to separate the power of the Heart from the Dwemer people. >And on the fields, the Tribunal and their armies watched as the Dwemer turned into dust all around them as their stolen immortality was taken away.
They built their own god in reality which then activated chim causing half a dozen parallel universes to exist all at the same time causing plot holes in reality (a man would die while also fricking his wife while also building a house while also saving a life which causes all of those things to have happened despite it not being possible). Their god then nuked itself out of existence for breaking reality which dragged all the dwemer along with it to nonexistence because they were a part of it spiritually.
this is probably a dumb question, but do the elder scrolls have anything to do with it? The Dwemer had some and knew how to read them without going insane/blind. Shouldn't they have seen their un-existence coming? Or did they just see a future where they were got raptured and assume Kagrenac was going to succeed?
ESO toned down a shitload of stuff. >Khajiit society isn't a bunch of chaotic housecats snorting drugs >Wood elves don't cannibalize shit >Altmer and Dunmer are less racist >Nords are sober >Redguards are less Weeboo >Bretons are less scheming backsta-
Wait, actually, they depict that pretty faithfully if I recall.
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and Dunmer are less racist
are less Weeboo
Excuse me what the frick
Who the god damn is writing for this frickign game and give me one good reason why I shouldnt march down to the studio and punch him in the dick.
When Kagrenac tapped in to the Heart of Lorkhan the entire Dwemer race was exposed to the truth of the Godshead, and being a rational race they were unable to accept that their entire existence was a dream and were thus purged from it
>"You wonder where the Dwemer have gone? Perhaps better to wonder why one remains. Even gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
He's Kagrenac , isn't he?
They built a machine god and were ejected from the face of reality for their hubris.
Accidentally their entire race using one of the in-universe equivalents of the developer console.
The Divines relocated them to a foreign land called "Israel"
They became the Numidium
Achievable natty?
athiestards deleted themselves from the simulation servers
They tried to access the console but realized not only do they not exist, but they exist only as lore background in a game not about them at all.
Either that, or they became the husk that is the numidium. Since they were alive, and the numidium is just a giant machine, they killed themselves effectively
They built God and that pissed God the hell off
I NEVER ASKED TO BE BORN
wtf! Is that cannon?
yes
It could've worked
Got isekaid into a v 0.0.0.3b patreon WEG
No it didnt work.
Why the frick would it working erase the entire race from existence?
Whatever they did made something mad and they got punished.
In original lore they were wiped from existence except for fat spider, fat spider was off in another dimension at the time.
Big-fricking-brain me thinks they were turned into the falmer for Skyrim plot padding
Frick, my sides
peak wh*te humor
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHGAH
WATERMELON?!?!?!!!
actual answer is no one knows and one of the original creator said in an interview that literally no one knows, and he would want to keep it that way
lore answer is they CHIMed but failed to stay in the dream of the Godhead and zero summed themselves out of existence, thats my opinion
>actual answer is no one knows
complete meme, there is a canon answer and there has been since morrowind. they became numidium.
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/final-report-trebonius
>actual answer is no one knows and one of the original creator said in an interview that literally no one knows, and he would want to keep it that way
You just know they will explain it somehow, someone actively being against it just makes it a sefl fulfilling prophecy.
That's not the actual answer though because it's explained in detail in the backstory for MW and is even shown happening in Skyrim
Became the skin of Numdium. Why do you think the Numidum breaks time when it walks? Because its visage tells Aka'tosh that he's fricking fake with infinite atheist fedora tipping.
Where is Numdium? Unrelated note, I always pronounce that as “Numidium”[new mi dee um], rolls off the tongue better than “numb dee um”
It got destroyed again after the Underking reclaimed his heart
Ita simultaneously destroyed/bits recycled into akhulakhan and also still actively sieging and stomping on the summer set isles in a pocket timeline (from which it will eventually break free)
This thing is horrifying. If you encounter it you are doomed to be horrendously killed across infinite variations of timelines. Forever. You are dead but also alive and your house is intact but also a smoldering ruin and your neighbors and family have been vaporized into mist but they're also celebrating a birth of a new child in the back garden. You get the idea
What is this about the numidium besieging the summerset isles in a pocket timeline? I thought the dragon break ended when it was deactivated.
Look into LANDFALL, that's when numidium breaks free and goes on rampage again
Okay, so my understanding is that there are two versions of the numidium, one that took an hour to conquer Alinor, which is the main one. There's also another version in the time warp that'll take thousands of years to conquer Alinor and that one is going to destroy nirn when its timeline reconnects?
Yes, he's stomping on alinor to this day
Okay, so does that timewarp count as a dragonbreak, even though a dragon break was already occurring as long as the Numidium was active? Is it just dragon breaks all the way down?
Keep feeding him Altmer to debate with, and everything will be all right.
>LANDFALL
No, Kirkbride needs to be used in a severe moderation.
>Is this fantastical lore in my fantasy game?!
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT NEEDS TO BE BORING TAKE MEDS SCHIZO AIEEEEEEEE
Not everything Kirkbirde writes is interesting or satisfying to me.
Like it or not, it's still canon.
>it's still canon.
lol
lmao even
Why wouldn't it be canon?
Nothing you write is interesting to me. Leave my thread you waste of bandwidth.
I agree. I treat him like an in-game character speculating on things and it just werks.
>C0DA continues to filter the plebs to this day
It's not filtering, I just don't care about some of Kirkbride's takes.
what exactly do you consider to be a bad take about C0DA?
Talking zombie TV heads from the future
>skibidi universe is a canon kalpa that happened
Is it not canon? I could never really grasp the concept of tomorrowwind
yes, you were filtered.
I'll give you a hint, the parts you describe are jubal retelling old stories from a time that is now completely lost
>morrowind 0
>morrowind 1
>tomorrowind
not very different from
>Satakal the worldskin
>shezarr's song
>the heart of the world
>shor son of shor
>the light and the dark
>the annotated anuad
etc
>If you encounter it you are doomed to be horrendously killed across infinite variations of timelines. Forever.
>Numidium is just Golden Experience Requiem
what the
It's pronounced new medium. It's purposeful
What exactly ARE the elder scrolls? If no one wrote them, how do they exist?
They’re like sheets of reality torn into new pieces
They also somehow write themselves through the actions great people
And somehow during the 2nd era the three Alliances each owned like 3 of them and fought over them in giant fortresses in cyrodiil LOL
It's something about moths.
all of them turned into urgot
Why was he so fat?
Corprus
He has a thyroid problem.
He hasn't been for a walk in a while
What? That's a fairly normal size for an adult human.
>human
He was on vacation in America when the dwemer vibrated out of reality.
Don't make fun of OP like that
Kwama Egg diet
He's bulking
glandular issue
a bad balance of carbohydrates, proteins and fiber in his diet, inactive lifestyle with little to no exercise.
Constipation
Medium American
t. low effort poster
does it really have to be that esoteric? all advanced civilizations fall eventually. maybe they just ran out of energy? maybe their machines became too dangerous?
>does it really have to be that esoteric
Yeah, since we know for a fact that the entire race vanished all at once during the climax of a massive battle after their leader striked the heart of a god with magical reality-manipulating tools, the mystery is where they went after disappearing, not the actual cause or events leading to their disappearence.
>the mystery is where they went after disappearing, not the actual cause or events leading to their disappearence.
We also don't know the cause since we don't know whether the Numidium's activation actually worked. It could be that it worked and the awakened Numidium zapped them away intentionally, or it could be that there was a freak accident in the Numidium's activation that backfired and that's what zapped them away.
In Tribunal, you literally find piles of dust of the seats of the fabricant dwemer city and find a dwemer ghost
They didn't "go somewhere", the all just died after zero-summing
You find Dwemer ghosts all over the place in motherfricking vanilla Morrowind. Their existence was never explained, so you CAN make that theory, but another explanation could be that those are Dwemer who died before everyone vanished. Since Yagrum is still around, we know the vanishing wasn't all-encompassing so it's possible that already dead ghosts weren't affected.
More than likely ghosts aren't exactly the actual spirits of the dead, more like an impression of them pulled from the summoner. Some ghosts might actually be returned revenants, but most are not.
No Ghosts Allowed
>Since the disappearance of the Dwarves, I have been alone in this world, trapped in this grim prison. I can scarcely move.
>Once I was a Master Crafter in the service of Lord Kagrenac, chief architect of the great Second Empire freeholds, and the greatest enchanter of his time. I could not match the genius of Lord Kagrenac, but what he could envision, I and my colleagues could build. All of that is gone forever. I still retain my cunning, but my hands and eyes fail me, and my memories have long faded. My only consolation is each day to mock the gods who destroyed my race, and condemned me to this bleak existence.
>My only consolation is each day to mock the gods who destroyed my race, and condemned me to this bleak existence.
Based, frick the Gods.
>frick the Gods.
Ok
What is that, a picture for ants?
Blame Daggerfall, not me
weak mindset
he made a special trip
you know not, the web of lies binding you
the only way away from The Pit is nowhere
Yeah, but what about the manifolds for tri-ply connected surfaces?
Better writing in two paragraphs than all of Skyrim. Readlets and zoomies will never understand
Why did the Dwemer look like Ancient Mesopotamians?
>ancient mesopotamians were teleported to nirn with their ancient alien technology (why do you think they were the first with a writing system?) and disappeared in an experiment where they wanted transport back to earth
bravo todd
such interesting lore for such shit games
what a waste
Possible, it’s suspicious that he’s the only one left
Surely there should be other Dwemer still alive in Aetherius and Oblivion. It's fricking stupid that Yagrum is the only one that returned to Mundus and Bethesda never really followed up on that lore thread. Falion in Skyrim mentions he's traveled to Oblivion and met actual living Dwemer there, so at least that shows that the writers still remember. I wouldn't discount the idea that we might see more living Dwemer at some point in a future game.
I'd rather they didn't, honestly. It'll just be shithouse like the Falmer in Skyrim.
All the dwemer that weren't Mundus were spared for some reason. I do hope that in the next game those dwemer return from oblivion and try to resurect their dead race. Imo it would be awesome if the dwemer came back in reality jumping airships and invaded tameriel with advanced steam punk type weapons.
I wish I could play as a fedora tipper Dwemmer with some snow elves slaves...
too much anime
The disappearance of the dwarves is one of the bigger tragedies in the setting, considering their culture was peak aesthetic
>be dwemer
>seethe that you're shitty mortals infinitely below the gods
>cope by being all scientific and rational like, tip fedora everytime some hick Xmer starts talking about blahblahblah my ancestors
>keep to your studying
>suddenly come to shocking realization
>the entire universe is, quite literally, made up nonsense
>their entire shtick of trying to act so cool and euphoric by making rational sense of the world is completely meaningless because the secret answer to everything is just multiple layers of "uh.. its magic?"
>no longer want to live in this fictional universe anymore where logic is a meme, decide to make your own universe with math and physics
>decide to achieve this my tapping into the moronation power of this universe to build an infinite fedora tipping computer god machine whose sole purpose is to be so autistic as to refute the entire universe and pull down the curtain and all its smoke and mirrors until there is nothing left but itself from where it will build the universe how it should be
>your finally there, one last piece to the puzzle and autism computer god is finished... then... poof something fricks up, the plan doesn't work for whatever reason (probably something to do with yagrum bagarn)
>cope by being all scientific and rational like, tip fedora
I know you're just memeing, but why are modern ones on the net like this?
came too hard
when will they bring them back steampunk was cool...
>what happened to the dwemers?
they disappeared when Kagrenac struck the heart of Lorkhan with the tools, sunder and keening.
there are piles of ash and Dwarven ghosts in Dwemer ruins.
they couldn't achieve CHIM so they zero-summed and vanished from existence
>when will they bring them back steampunk was cool...
"sooryy maight, can't do it. might scare the normies off, and we do like theer monay 🙂 " -Todd Howard, Servant of Zenimax circa SKYRIM6.1
>bringing back dwemer
shitty fanfic-tier idea, they served their purpose
Not as a cool in-game culture they didn't
Half the games even forget what their remnants are supposed to look like
Sort of had an idea for how to reasonable shoe-horn dwemer into a game set in like Elseweyr or Summerset where they didn't have anything settlements.
The gist of the idea is that a dwemer tonal architect basically built a device to quickly build new cities for the dwemer, though never quite hammered all the details out before poofing. Years later some dumb shmuck picks it up and now dwemer settlements are springing up all over the province like a fricking steampunk herpes infection and is putting nirn at risk of basically experiencing a Grey Goo scenario. You also get random poor sods half-fused to dwemer constructs and shambling around as mechanical zombies.
neat
If you're an actual, discerning TES fan then their return should be the last thing you should ever want. I'm not even joking, it would be the fricking death of TES.
even better
Nah I'm good on that. C0DA already gave us one cynical shitpost ending, we really don't need another.
they didn't have sex and touch grass
Devs wanted a mysterious, ancient, and lost civilization.
>will never have a games with the same atmosphere like morrowind anymore
the only game that comes close is early period of runescape 2004-2008
rs never had that kind of atmosphere due to how juvenile the story and writing was
They realized they are a dream of a god (video game character) and rather than pick the path of CHIM (dreaming their own dream). They picked the right hand path and ceased to be, becoming just an idea in god's head (a video game concept).
>path of CHIM (dreaming their own dream)
Wait, then why is Vivec still in Auribis if he became his own dreamer?
dreamer is where dreamer is
the dream lingers within and without
The wheel concept has a fundamental issue.
>fundamental issue
less so then /tesg/
>/tesg/
How's it nowadays?
the usual + on crack
He didn't. He approached chim, realized he was too much of a b***h to attempt it, and then pretended like he succeeded. (If he did there would be no reason for him to keep appearing in the world. Tiber Septim is the only one who actually did it)
I think Tiber ascended like Auri-El and others did, not CHIMed away to his own universe aka become his own Anu.
>game content removes itself to deny the player
incalculably based
basically because they were an entire race of fedora tippers
Also because Lorkhan was right and elves *usually* cant into that
Not applicable + you're a joyless troony
I know the two pics in the middle are zelda and probably DS but i dont know what they're supposed to mean here or whats the mistery supposed to be
just a unique texture and object in the games. I think both have had a lot of genuine discussion on "what is this and why is it here?" on the internet, just because people are always looking to put meaning into nothing in particular, just like the image suggests they are doing, though the one on the left is enjoying it for what it is, and the other is not appreciating it for what it isnt
Main difference between the Boomer and the Zoomer mindset, Boomers enjoy using their imagination while Zoomers enjoy making cringy youtube videos explaining the dark unexplained lore to braindead kids, and all for the likes and subscribes.
Based
Frick Vaati and his troony "girlfriend"
>Letting your hatred for random youtubers convince you to be objectively wrong about things
Shut up Vaati
Cope and seethe, moron
He has a troony gf?
Zullie the witch is a troony
According to some guy here on Ganker that is
so its 100% true
It's 50/50
She doesn't show her face, so obviously it must be a troony because women love to do that
But then trannies love to parade themselves in public just as much, if not more
Zullie is literally a guy from a ds2 cosplay contest. The name stuck with him
>Zullie
>no Alva
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I'm finally playing through Elden Ring, blind and this is how I'm looking at things specifically because it's enhancing my enjoyment. I genuinely don't want to know, because the explanation for everything in that game is just depression. The quests genuinely have some of the most dissatisfying endings, I'd rather just keep stumbling into random bosses and letting my poor sense of direction lead me to bizarre corners of the map. Last night I was doing that quest for the blind girl with the castle and the ugly fricking bird people or whatever they were. There's this field near it with a bunch of mages and one tall blue dude practicing like gravity magic or some shit. No idea what that is and I liked that. Random knight boss that only shows up if you go there at night, that boss was so much fun. The first time I unhorsed him and realized he could just summon up a new one. Realizing the fight was easier off my horse than on it because I could guard and it was easier to aim my blows.
When I was pretty much done with the whole area I just looked at the map and said "Alright, what shit haven't I done yet?" and I remembered that Garrunk thing or whatever you're supposed to feed deathroot to. I tried going there once but just kept getting invaded by the same person over and over and that got boring so I decided to put it off. So I head off in that direction and somehow get turned around and end up in Caelid.
To me, Elden Ring takes it a bit too far where everything is so obtuse it actually loses a lot of it's impact, and I appreciate it more now that I actually understand what the order was and the motivations behind a lot of the people you fight.
Even watching other people play, they'd get to the last two bosses and have no idea who/what they are or what they're even really trying to accomplish. Sure if you just want a one and done experience and you don't care about it, that's fine but there definitely is some depth to what's going on that can enrich the experience.
It's just unfortunate that it got turned into a money-making thing where dudes on youtube would philosophize for an hour over the meaning of the placement of an oddly textured brick and shit like that. People are going too far in the other direction now saying if you care about lore at all it's bad, and it just comes off as contrarianism.
>obtuse
ER is the most straightforward one of these games
Anything that's obtuse is intentionally so, and still presented to the player in a fairly up front manner
Literally just read the items you find, it's that simple. Of course, to be fair Ranni's quest is by far the most informative of what's going on in the game.
There's a happy medium between these two wherein you can know in the back of your mind that it was done for the express purpose of being mysterious and letting your mind wander, but you can also discuss what it might be and the various theories other people have. Ultimately, the only canon that matters is the one you create and believe. Trying to find an answer is doing it wrong.
And posting Dwemer kino for the hell of it.
>lorelets think the dwemer are gone
lmao
I don't like the zero-sum theory. The dwemer aren't a hivemind, what are the odds that they all came to the same conclusion?
They didn't, which is why the actual explanation given by the writers and games is better
>which is why the actual explanation given by the writers and games is better
There isn't one
Skyrim and Kirkbride suggest otherwise
They didn't explain anything
They didn't have to, they showed and confirmed it
Your theory is hinging on the idea that the Dragonborn and Numidium are somehow the same thing. This is completely schizo and insane.
It literally doesn't matter what they are because the process is the same regardless, and again this is confirmed
?
The better theory is that they threw themselves through time on accident like what happened with the World Eater
Were the dwemers c**ts to everyone or did the snow elves just get a special frick you because they were so desperate?
c**ts to absolutely everyone they interacted with. The Dwemer were feared and reviled throughout Northern Tamriel and the possibility of their return kept people up at night for generations after they disappeared. Their atrocities were in all likelyhood as bad as the Ayleids, but less well recorded.
Literally the only time they had a positive relationship with another race was with The Chimer under Lord Nerevar, but even then this was more of a strategic alliance of convenience against the invading Nords that dissolved when Nerevar caught wind that Kagenerac was up to something shady.
Can someone explain whi the Ayleids were?
That's the one concept I never picked up on, even after thousands of hours in oblivion.
pretty much just elves
Isn't one of the main things about elderscrolls that everything is elves?
What makes Ayleids special?
Slightly different High Elves who lived in and ruled Cyrodiil and parts of Black Marsh in ancient times, organized in many different city-states, most or some of which became rather degenerate daedra worshippers who treated their human slaves pretty badly, thus leading to the Alessian Slave Revolt, where their human slaves succesfully revolted against them with the help of some divine intervention and subsequently founded the First Empire of Cyrodiil.
The Ayleids kingdoms that weren't evil were kept around as vassal states of the First Empire until a crazy human supremacist cult took over and dismantles the last Ayleid kingdoms, the remnants of whom fled Cyrodiil and became scattered throughout Tamriel, and might still be around.
High elves from the mainland, who were very skilled in magic and liberal. Liberal enough to start worshipping all the Daedra, not just a few like Chimer/Dunmer. This lead to political instability (most Deadra don't like each other like Mephala/Boethia/Azura) and angered Aedra, which helped humans organize a slave revolt (also Lorkhan helped as well, because he likes humans and sent his reincarnation from the future - Pelinal). Some Ayelids were spared, because they helped humans and worshipped Aedra, but they got killed by religious fanatics in the following centuries.
Ayleids were originally created as a race of Wild Elf enemies with their own Elvish language in Daggerfall, but all of this was cut from the game.
This book exists in Daggerfall, as a sort of meta reference to this scrapped idea:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Wild_Elves
Later, Oblivion greatly expanded on Ayleids and their history:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Last_King_of_the_Ayleids
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Magic_from_the_Sky
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Before_the_Ages_of_Man#The_Merethic_Era
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Adabal-a
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Shezarr_and_the_Divines
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Trials_of_St._Alessia
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal
Admittedly, Oblivion is fricking terrible at incorporating its lore into its shittily designed world, but I think it has some of the absolute best lore in the series.
Elder scroll writing is so bad
>OMG they realized they are in a game so they all disappeared xD
Like some teenager wrote that crap
That's because they were. Those are just shitty Reddit fan theories, the games never say that.
>Visits to Aetherius occur even less frequently than to Oblivion, for the void is a long expanse and only the stars offer portal for aetherial travel, or the judicious use of magic. The expeditions of the Reman Dynasty and the Sun Birds of Alinor are the most famous attempts in our histories, and it is a cosmic irony that both of them were eventually dissolved for the same reason: the untenable expenditures required to reach magic by magicka. Their only legacy is the Royal Imperial Mananauts of the Elder Council and the great Orrery at Firsthold, whose spheres are made up of genuine celestial mineral gathered by travelers during the Merethic Era.
Pelinal being some sort of Cyborg or golem was in faxt precisely what the writer was going for in The Song of Pelinal in-game books in his own words and the Barenziah books are not "confirmed propaganda" (in fact Barenziah herself says the author is good as trustworthy in-game) and the teslore gays are not particularly interested on it, so I don't get why even include it on the pic in the first place
Also what the frick is "ambiguity of the hist"?
>Also what the frick is "ambiguity of the hist"?
I'm guessing it means that what exactly the hist *are* besides weird sentient wonder-trees is left deliberately ambiguous.
Also unreliable, contradictory, and very far-out sources are essentially what makes TES unique and generally you should take anything you don't directly see happen in the games with a grain of salt. In essence, it's sort of the anti-loregay game because there isn't a straight answer on fricking anything.
It's funny how everybody completely fricking ignores the one actual appearence of a Hist Tree in the mainline games because it was depicted as a powerless slave of the Blackwood Company instead of an all-poweful hivemind that can instantly hijack Argonians at will that most loregays hype them up to be
I remember reading a fanfic about argonians and the hist from one of those Kirkbride fans and they made sure to include a line about how whichever Hist Tree got taken to Cyrodiil by mercenaries probably wasn't a real Hist
I thought the Hist tree was manipulating the Blackwood Company and not the other way around. Either way it was single, tiny sapling while Black Marsh has a potentially country-sized network of Hist trees that are potentially older than time itself. And the Hist telepathically called in Argonians and wiped the floor with Dagon's armies so it's confirmed they ARE an insanely powerful hivemind when they need to be, they just don't give a frick about most conflicts.
>Oblivion
>canon
That hist was sick, anon. That's why its sap fricks people up.
The hist have individual wills and there can be rogue actors just like with mortals however the more likely explanation is that tree didn't take any action to protect itself because their future plans and calculations either hinged on or weren't effected by it's personal condition. Same reason why they give argonians free will and let them proliferate on their own. Easier to use when needed rather than control 24/7
Yeah nah sorry this all still sounds like gay fanfic bullshit. Elder Scrolls lore peaked with Viking Warlord Jesus, everything else may as well have been written by a teenage Deviantart furry.
It was. MK is that writing style embodied. And I love it. TES is a very silly series when you really look at it. Impossible to take seriously. and the lore is crazy enough to mesh with that
Tiber Septim was a gay politcian who retired from the Battlefield as soon as he could because he preferred court intrigue, and most of his military exploits were actually done by a Nord king turned Cloud entity, whom he later betrayed because he was that much of a israelite
How many dragon breaks would it take to make Septim straight?
why the frick is tiber septim like 3 or 4 people?
It was part of the process of becoming talos.
what the frick is talos?
Hjalti, Ysmir, and Zurin, walker of all six ways.
Enantiomorph.
learn your lore.
real life reason: because in daggerfall he was presented as a breton born in alcaire but then kirkbride came in to rewrite the whole universe in redguard's lore book and made him a nord named talos out of nowhere
when he realized he fricked up he added a book to morrowind that resolved it by giving him multiple disputed identities, and then that got rolled up with the mantling shit to make it all one ascended emperor god of them all merged
tes lore has always been flying by the seat of its pants
>Hist Tree
>History
>Come from a previous time.
Bravo Kirkbride.
morlocks aka falmer
Hell, even the things that happen in-game are to be taken with a grain of salt. The games feel like you're living a fictitious account of a legend of a folk hero instead of the actual, real world events. That's how I reconcile all the characters doing gamebreaking moronic shit (especially in Morrowind). Like, I can imagine someone going "I heard the Nerevarine could leap all the way across Vvardenfell" but of course he couldn't actually do that.
I need me a Senche-raht gf so I could put my whole head inside her musky vegana repeteadly until she crushes my skull with her orgasmic contractions.
Todderstandable
The Duality of Todd
They fricked around d and found out.
>Hey what’s up guys we’re the Dwemer, we’re all about facts and logic here. Hell, even the gods are all facts and logic. Nothing’s unexplainable. They’re just really strong beings. It’s all science and shit.
>Oh frick we just learned the truth of our existence and apparently we’re not real?! But how can we not be real if I’m here to think these thoughts? How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren’t real? AAAA *poof*
Meanwhile Vivec
>Dog none of this shit is real I’m gonna go FRICK Molag Bal LMFAO IM like GOD or some Shit
and then you have me, a nord named "horny" getting assraped by horses and bandits in skyrim and using console commands (CHIM) to further my degeneracy
more importantly, who the frick came up with these names?
these names are great
a person who understands aesthetics
They're easy to pronounce when you chunk them.
>Addad
>Shashan
>Ammu
Kinda like those weird looking Japanese words. In a hypothetical Dwemer language, those chunks would probably each mean something and it'd be something akin to those long ass German words
BORN TO SHIT
FORCED TO WIPE
you got a link for that mod?
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/users/176502240?tab=user+files
it's Morrowind 2 (2014), the others are also kino
>they find the heart of lorkhan
>they frick with it
>they all get erased from reality/sent to a shounen anime dimension, whatever happened they were never heard from again, oddly dead dwemer were not subject to whatever happened because their ghosts are still around
Even if they're called ghosts, it's more like they're just empty phantoms or shades of the dwemer, otherwise I can't see why someone wouldn't just thall one or summon one of the ghosts with intelligence to learn secrets about them like we see people do in other games
the dwemer should be in hell for what they did to the falmer
>the dwemer should be in hell for what they did to the falmer
You can say that again.
built for redguard men
CHIM
Yagram ate them. That's why he's the only one left
indeed. they ascended beyond the daedra. they are aedra. they live in aetherius.
Ever watch End of Evangelion? Basically that, they instrumentalised themselves into an artificial mecha god (Numidium).
INSTALL GENTOO
in elder scrolls 6 the dwarves will come out of hiding underground, all around tamriel dwarven camps, strongholds, and even cities have risen to get their revenge
but the legends tell of one they fear, the dwemerkin, the one who can harness the dwarves mechanical powers and turn it against them
Why didn't he poof away
didnt feel like it.
He went away to another realm and missed it
he's not a dwemer
the most possible reason is that he was in a portal from/to Aetherius, outside of existence when the poof happened, so he didn't reach the realization of CHIM and zero sum, but I like the explanation that he's Kagernac himself
also explains how he can recreate wraithguard as one last spit in Vivec's face
Because the Dwemer never actually vanished.
Well they did, in a sense.
the dwemer are truthfully the "Dunmer" whom they in a sense became, but more closely, always had been.
Kagrenac (yagrum bagarn) touched the heart and confused reality, wiping the slate and creating a new genesis for the dunmer. Those who escaped the apocalyptic eruption of dagoth ur came out of their caves into this new unknown world scared and confused, left to pick up the pieces of what happened. It was then that the demon gods of the tribunal came and told them carefully crafted lies, lies of fake ancestors called the chimer (changed mer!) who fought and defeated the dwemer, turned them against their own true ancestors for daedra!
>the dwarves all sacrificed themselves to become the god numidium
>but it was all for nothing because one dwarf was missing, yagrum couldnt be sacrificed because he was in the outer realm when it happened
why would he play that obsidian flop
>banged the gong
>now they're all gone
>GET IT ON
Curious that they rely on an object from a god they hate that helped create a reality they hate. Really makes you think. Quite intriguing.
said god is the only thing they know exists and they tried to use it as the base to create something that also truly exists
never mind. i'm a drunk moron
Everyone always ask's what the frick happened to the Dwemer but what I'm honestly more confused about is why the frick didn't Yagrum get zero summed too?
I finished playing morrowind last month. Did they not explain exactly how the dwemer vanished? Why is this even a question?
>Why is this even a question?
if you actually played morrowind you should understand that its a mediocre game thats kept alive by people who hate playing video games arguing over inane things and literally copy-pasting wiki posts
>its a mediocre game
Morrowind was well received by critics. It was congratulated most frequently for its breadth of scope, the richness of its visuals, and the freedom it worked into its design. Alongside the compliments, however, came criticism that the game designers had overstretched themselves, leaving glitches in various spots, and made a game too taxing to be run on an average machine, with one reviewer calling it "a resource pig".[58] In a retrospective by 1Up, the breadth and open-endedness of Morrowind are suggested to have contributed to the decline of single-player RPGs on home computers by leading customers to MMORPGs, where they could have a similar experience.[78]
In spite of this, reviewers generally felt that the drawbacks of the game were minor in comparison to its strengths. IGN concluded that "Morrowind isn't perfect and its system requirements are huge; but its accomplishments outweigh any reservations."[72] GameSpot's review concluded with a similar summation. "Morrowind does have numerous drawbacks ... But they're all generally minor enough that most anyone should be able to look past them ... They'll otherwise find that Morrowind fulfills its many ambitious intentions. It's a beautiful-looking, sprawling, and completely open-ended game that allows you to play pretty much however you like".[11]
The game environment of Morrowind was applauded as large and richly detailed, particularly for its real-time weather effects, day/night cycle,[79] and its great variety of plant and animal life.[6][11][14][58] Xbox Nation commended the game for its "sheer scope", and credited that aspect as the game's "biggest selling point", though it criticized the slowdowns and questing complexities that resulted from it.[80] In contrast to the "generic"[15] nature of Daggerfall's design, reviewers found Morrowind's design spectacular, varied,[58] and stunning.[11] GameSpot stated that "Simply exploring Morrowind is possibly the best thing about it."[11]
they realized they were in a simulation and proceeded to literally break the fourth wall.
>entire socio-religious philosophy is based on trying to disprove things
>decide to build a God who embodies the philosophy of disproving things
>God takes this philosophy to its logical extreme and disproves the contemporaneous existence of the Dwemer, causing them all to vanish/become the skin of their God
>surprised_pikachu.jpg
There was some other wacky stuff at play, but that was the gist of it.
Too autistic to exist.
>Be race of properly autistic golden skinned polymaths
>Enshrine skepticism as a pseudo-religious principle
>Tap into divinity to try to determine the fundamental properties of the universe
>Accidentally prove that you don't exist with FACTS and LOGIC
>Get solved out of reality like a math equation
Having a spider leg machine seems like it'd be cool.
>House Dres somehow becomes one of the main proponents of the abolition of slavery despite its entire economy being based on exports from slave-labor plantations
So did Morrowind's admittance into the Empire just provide such a huge swath of cheap labour that the second-most traditionalist House after Indoril decided that rentire agrarianism was more profitable than slavery?
didnt they fought tooth and nail against that change?
Their stance changed somewhere between Morrowind and Oblivion, as some idle NPC chatter in the latter is where you hear that Dres and IIRC Hlaalu? were rejoicing over the abolition of slavery.
kek, my only explanation would be that they don't need to buy slaves anymore and set up a "company store system" where they don't pay their employees real money, but some sort of vouchers
I like to think that the Dres and Hlaalu just tricked the Empire and pulled a Dren Plantation on a much larger scale, gives one more reason for the Argonians to still want to invade them 5 years later
I dunno If It was on purpose, but it's a really underrated little worldbuilding element how the PGE 3 acts as if Black Marsh is fine and dandy now that slavery has been abolished, describing border skirmishes between the Argonians and the Dunmer and Imperial troops getting ambushed in the deep marsh as just tiny temporary problems in a nation with a bright and peaceful future ahead, but then NPCs describe Black Marsh as being more violent than ever before, with colonists regularly disappearing, and in the next game you find out that the argonians were the first ones to secede from the Empire and that they invaded Morrowind and all, really makes It seem that the Empire's sheer incompetence and refusal to deal with the An-xileel due to thinking that the abolishment of slavery in Morrowind solved everything ended up coming back to haunt them and basically caused their territorial decline in the 4th era.
In Morrowind, It was said that House Dres were traditionalist slavers who were extremely resistant to change and abolitionism, but in Oblivion, just half a decade later, NPCs talk about the Dres willingly giving up on slavery in exchange for an alliance with the Hlaalu against Indoril, which doesn't make any sense whatsoever going by what we knew about House Dres previously but eh, I guess they were the only available option for such a role so Bethesda went with it.
One does wonder what House Hlaalu offered to House Dres for them to willingly give up the practice which the entirety of their culture and economy has revolved around for the past thousands of years though. You think they changed the chains on their banners for something else?
The chains on their banners represent the strong bond chaining them and their Hlaalu allies together :^)
Starfield out in 2 weeks and I've just started playing Skyrim as a Nord named Bjorn the Burly. Going 2 handed with self-buff magic for some extra defence.
that's great todd
Man i fishing wish i was Todd. Would suck being short though.
gonna play Morrowind for the first time, is any graphic-only and QoL mod recommended or should I play it vanilla?
Better Dialogue Font, MGE XE and Morrowind Code Patch
play vanilla
then google how to get the boots of blinding speed and how to exploit magic resistance to avoid the blindness
>durr durr google gaming, durr durr I don't want to cheat or break the game
no, you think you don't but you do, the game has a lot of walking and a lot of fetch quests
it's better that you save your mind and time rather than getting the authentic walking simulator experience
if you choose to ignore my advice at least remember it, for when you realize you don't want to spend any more time walking at the speed of a wagon missing 3 wheels
there are other ways to boost your walkingspeed the boots arent a hard requirement
There is enchantment and magic, and also stats, I guess.
The gigajump is a pretty funny way to travel, superior to the boots in raw speed.
Am I missing anything?
potions for what its worth
did the speed of potions of speed also scale?
>Am I missing anything?
for me its scroll of windform
>I need my dopamine RIGHT NOW
do zoomers really?
Patch for Purists
It's ultimately up to personal preference and the game is fine to play purely vanilla, but most would say you want Morrowind Code Patch at the bare minimum to fix some engine issues and instability
MGE XE can improve the graphics greatly without needing to change any art itself, by implementing various shaders and improving draw distance and FOV for widescreen resolutions
If you aren't using any other mods that fix the expansion intros, then I also recommend at least this one, which implements a feature from the Xbox GOTY version that never made it to the PC for some reason, which makes it so you aren't immediately attacked by assassins from the first expansion on new characters: https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/43477
Depending on where you got the game, you may or may not have the free official DLC included. They can be downloaded separately here if you want it: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Plugins
OpenMW
+
https://modding-openmw.com/lists/i-heart-vanilla/
so what is "chim" exactly?
The thing that every Morrowgay pretends is deep but doesn't understand anyway.
TES equivalent of gnosis.
very simple really
now where could my pipe be?
I could kill that guar. Those pipes are ruined.
after you chim'd successfully you'd probably spend an era or 2 messing with the beings inhabiting the wheel then you'd get bored and blink yourself out to see if there's anything else outside of it or just cause you're done and you can't go back to the rules if you know. time wouldn't matter either so it's hard to think about how you'd perceive your desires ever changing or even having desires anymore.
todd ran out of time and budget so left area empty and morons made up lore about it.
Chim is lucid dreaming. When you're
dreaming, normally you don't even realize what's going on or have any control... so in the rare event lucidity happens you either wake up and are no longer participating in the dream, or you wrestle control of your own dream and steer it the way you want.
That and it also requires extreme metaphysical enlightenment and insight into the nature of reality that is inaccessible to all but the most powerful beings in the setting. Most of the aedra and daedra don't even fully get it. Vivec definitely doesn't get it but he pretends he does.
Should I, a zoomer, play Morrowind? Any tips? I tried before and got filtered by combat.
try morrowblivion
When you make your class at the start simply choose a race with a combat skill you want to use and then choose that skill as one of your primary skills. Wow. Now you can hit things. Wowee..you made a build
If you want a nice early-game boost to combat, "The Warrior" sign is better than it looks. The game doesn't communicate it well during character creation but the "+10 to attack" essentially means a flat +10% chance to hit with all weapons, almost as good as getting a permanent +10 to all weapon skills, including ranged weapons.
>Be dwemer
>seething at the gods who poofed all your people while you slowly die of AIDS in a cave
>Suddenly the semi-reincarnation of the dude who launched a crusade against you waltzes in with the finest tools of your lost people
>tell you to fix it wagie
>he Proceeds to get the same AIDS you do but gets cured, granting near immortality
>he proceeds to finish the job, gets a blowjob from the god you dont think exists
>proceed to have your head smashed in by him with those same tools
Maybe they somehow escaped Mundus, maybe even Auribis. Who knows.
Their Dwemin' with the fishies now
CHIMshit is moronic and FRICK israelitebride for shoving his autistic fanfiction like he did.
Are there any mods that emulate CHIM properly? Using a console is just not as wieldy.
The Elder Scrolls Universe through Chim as a force has been described as a harmonious orchestra, every instrument playing a specific way, with perfect timing. The slightest deviation could have catastrophic effects.
The Dwemer in the experiments, did the equivalent of walking on the stage of said orchestra, banging a pot with a hammer as loud as possible.
Because of this, the universe VIOLENTLY corrected reality to avoid catasrophe.
It did this by wiping all Dwemer from existence in the blink of an eye, only those outside of Mundus at the time were spared. Such has Yagrum Bagarn.
That's the coolest theory anyway, but disregard any others because they're boring and for losers.
Are there any arts of the Colored Room?
Can someone explain what was meant by Meridia consorting with Daedra, what exactly would one of Magnus's/a fragment of Magnus himself (?) need from Daedra that she couldn't achieve on her own?
>That's the coolest theory
The Numidium skin is cooler than the zero sum theory.
>numidium
>chim
>zero sum
>yagrum
read everything in the thread and i still don't understand shit
It's not that complicated.
Play daggefall and read every book
For me? It's "Jokes", by Butha Sunhous.
>Numidium
The Walk Brass. It's a big dwemer robot built to assume the "place" of the dead god Lorkhan.
The Dwemer were smart and realized that through logic and reason reality was a dream with inconsistent rules and an unreliable narration. Unsatisfied with reality, they desired to create a reality that would function through logic and reasoning, not fleeting ideas and intentions.
>CHIM
The TES universe exists in the dream of a entity referred to as the Godhead who's real name is supposedly Anu, Achieving CHIM is the process of becoming a new "dreamer" and thus a new godhead existing within Anu.
If one achieves CHIM, they basically create a new reality, because Anu even has his own backstory that makes it sound like he's just another guy in some other reality (Where his brother killed his wife or some shit).
The Dwemer basically constructed a god powered by the very heart of reality so that it would become the next dreamer. Using a form of reality manipulating magic called tonal magic, they attempted to enter the Numidium's dream-reality but they fricked up and merged with it, or possibly zero-summed
>Zero Summed
The idea is if you become truly aware you're in a dream, you poof out of existence. Some people think the Dwemer in their attempt to activity the Numidium came to this true realization and poofed.
>Yagrum
Fat dwarf who was in a plane of oblivion at the time the Dwemer vanished which spared him of their fate.
>because Anu even has his own backstory that makes it sound like he's just another guy in some other reality (Where his brother killed his wife or some shit).
Could be a lie that's meant just to break him, or as a pretend reason to set the contents of the dream be in a specific way.
Could be just a myth. Like, set aside Kirbride's rambling and loregay theories - official games don't really tell you that much, on what esoteric lore from in-game books is true or not.
>, because Anu even has his own backstory that makes it sound like he's just another guy in some other reality (Where his brother killed his wife or some shit).
What?
Do NOT summon the lore iceberg schizos
Do summon the lore iceberg schizos!
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Annotated_Anuad
Damn you were confidently wrong on every single point, that's almost impressive.
>TeS thread
>Always some homosexual who goes "that's wrong" without elaborating.
The dwemer did not believe in the gods
The dwemer were not consciously aware of reality being a dream
Anu is one of the highest level forces in reality, along with Padomay
The process of replacing the godhead and becoming the dreamer is amaranth, chim is completely different
You dumb Black person
>The Dwemer did not believe in gods
They didn't believe what people called gods were in fact gods. They still had the heart of Lorkhan and understood its power.
>The Dwemer were not consciously aware of reality being a dream
They were as close to it as possible. The ultimate skeptics of reality itself. Tonal magic, tricking "omniscient" meme demons? They knew they were on a stage, but they couldn't break the act. If you were in the matrix and started seeing evidence that it was a simulation but had never actually escaped the matrix how certain would you be that it's all bullshit? A part of you would cling to what it known and the Dwemer were no different.
>Anu is one of the highest forces in reality
Do not confuse Anu the abstract force and Anu the god head.
>Amaranth is not Chim
I've been in threads where this is highly debated. Either CHIM is Amaranth or a step towards Amaranth.
>They still had the heart of Lorkhan and understood its power.
Which is irrelevant to the point
>A part of you would cling to what it known and the Dwemer were no different.
You're projecting your own framework onto their experience
We don't know exactly why gravity exists, it's a little weird when you hyper-analyze it, maybe that's evidence that our reality is fake that someone in a more real reality would immediately clock as a tell- but nobody in ours thinks that, it's just part of the universe we live in
>Do not confuse Anu the abstract force and Anu the god head.
not real
>Either CHIM is Amaranth or a step towards Amaranth.
They are distinct even in exclusively in-game sources, not that you're aware of anything outside of that
>Irrelevant to the point
You're bringing up the gods for no reason. The fact of the matter is they created the Walk Brass to achieve Amaranth, they very clearly understood a bit about how the cosmological mechanics work even if they refuse to acknowledge the "divines".
>You're projecting your own experience, we don't know what they were thinking.
True, but their entire culture would imply they were on the verge of understanding reality was a dream.
>Not real
cope
>They are distinct
Literally the last thread I was in had an autistic rant about CHIM and how it was literally just Amaranth and not what Viviec was actually faking.
>I've been in threads where this is highly debated. Either CHIM is Amaranth or a step towards Amaranth
They're separate things but achieve the same goal. It's the 6 walking ways Chim and Mantling are just .
No you’re thinking of Amouranth, CHIM is just realising you are in a dream but still having the force of will to assert yourself as real and keep your sense of self. It’s like lucid dreaming, you get the cheat codes and can change the dream but you aren’t the dreamer, that’s still Anu.
Tiber Septim used it to remake the jungle of Cyrodiil into the boring western fantasy land you see in Oblivion so it would be more hospitable for his people
I broke open my archives just to help illuminate this thread
They all work on my saltrice farm upstate
Its crazy to think that Bethesda games actually used to have soul.
Just a distant memory now
But they do still have it, no? It's just that some things aren't what they used to be.
It's all still there in fluff and flavor text, just not front and center anymore to not scare away normalgays and speed readers/players
They divided by zero!! xDDDD (only oldgays like myself will get it XD)
The Toddhead woke up
Nobody really knows.
As great as baldurs gate 3 is, me running into this dwemer is a greater more impactful moment than all of new vegas or bg3. That's how godlike morrowind is. Frick you.
cool cool but why bring it up?
Nerevar (pbuh) genocided them in the battle of red mountain.
Whenever you are indecisive about something, its always the oral traditions and epic poems of the ashlanders that are true and written books are lying.
Dwemer realize that Gods are spirits too, but more powerful, less drained out by Mundus than mortal ones.
In that regard they just probably wanted to become their own dreamers - Anu.
It would be stupid to still worship gods when you live in an advanced self sufficient society like the dwemer. Other peasant races have to pray to the gods for their cabbage harvest because they don't know modern farming
No reason why can't keep religion for aesthetic and wholesome purposes. Well, not that there's much wholesome about most spirits in TES, but broadly speaking, staying together with the gods can be romantic.
Frick the gods im going to my goon cave with flame atronach bimbo babes
yooo spare a flame atronach summon scroll for the needy?
>the daedra will not attack us because they know that i am here at the planes of oblivion on sexual business
holy based
>TFW your flame elemental gf got too excited
"In this moment I am euphoric. Not because of some phony aedra's blessing, but because I am enlightened by my own intelligence."
-Keragnac
This picture is ironic considering that most of what Vivec said was a lie.
They were so smart, they consequently became moronic and invented a thing that killed themselves.
The dwemer are probably still accessible through a elder scroll.
They literally unthought themselves out of existence. Elder Scrolls is a metaphoric representation of hyperbolic story telling personified through, you, the player
I think someone said that they tried to harness the power of a heart of a "god", but then the other gods got upset and trapped them in another dimension or suspended/froze them in another dimension, and are keeping them there for like 3 or 6 thousand years, or until they learn their lesson.
I'd hope they'd return and be more religious, but still invent cool stuff, but it's too late for that, because b*thesda is only doing woke stuff now.
If that was true the Tribunal would have gotten assfricked a long time ago. Instead, the Vivec made Azura suck his wiener and then explode using the heart.
I hate crashing at the mages guild and having my shit all over the place. Isn't there a good house mod that isn't a fricking mansion or in fricking nowhere? I'd love to be able to rent a motel room with some shelves and a bed and maybe a chest.
For me? It's Nerano Manor.
What would happen were Magnus were not to withdraw?
There would be no Sun in Mundus, I guess.
Nirn would be low fantasy rather than high fantasy.
>People are still discussing Morrowind story & lore 25 years later
>Nobody ever discusses Oblivion and Skyrim's stories, because they're so generic and forgettable
Insane how far Bethesda fell
In fairness to Skyrim people will still talk about who's better between the Stormcloaks and Imperials.
But yeah I don't see anyone talking about the actual story of Oblivion most discussion is about bugs or the world itself (or about all the retcons).
oblivion has some decent lore bits but there's not much to discuss except for the shit about mankar claiming that tamriel is lorkhan's realm of oblivion. also people still keep bringing up pelinal.
But how about Daggerfall lore?
Every thread someone spoonfeeds a newbie on who is Talos and why is he a reverse-schizophrenia-produced Lorkhan, larping as a Breton.
I want Azuras perfect pussy to clench on my dick for hours until I cant take anymore and drift into oblivion.
My favorite theory is the popular one that just plays it straight and says they fricked up a calculation and deleted themselves.
Unresolved, unmysterious, no super long winding series of bookends, just oops, oh frick, no more Dwemer.
dammit bros you actually got me to waste my time reading the wiki, and I remembered I haven't even finished skyrim yet because of mod autism
I feel like starting morrowind now
They escaped Elder Scrolls and made it into real life.
>what happened to the dwemers?
they whitepeopled themselves
>what happened to the dwemers?
They succeeded in leaving the mortal plane.
starved due to no longer fitting in dwemer walmart
>Dwemer mobility scooter
huhuhuhuhuhu
>pump and dump Dwemercoin
>exit scam of such proportions the entire race vanished
Sam Bankman would be proud
Discord
>ESO "lore"
>directly refers to Morrowind, tes 3
ok moron
what's wrong with that?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Alessian_Order#The_Dance_of_the_Selectives
>all citations lead to ESO
have a nice day
you are such a fricking moron holy shit
>Where Were You When The Dragon Broke
>ESO
moron.
The absolute state of (You)
try again
why is elder scrolls lore so goofy
>goofy
>part cosmic horror, part nightmare ((barely (?)) held by some spirits), part meta cosmic horror, part mods
It's mostly Gnosticism with some Abrahamic and maybe Hindu and Buddhist stuff (I don't know enough about those).
That said, disregard some of it because it's Kirkbride's personal takes or loregay theories.
647583625
>comments on ESO lore when nobody mentioned ESO
no more (you)s for morons
ESO isn't as terrible as others say it is.
ESO is exactly as terrible as everyone says it is, minus a handful of expansions and questlines
ESO _____________________________________________________________________________is actually alright
It's terribly pozzed. I already mentioned it into other threads, but for example, when you brainwash some altmer woman from isolationist (aka muh racist) faction into being a notSpriggan queen of Valenwood, but brainwashing is ok because we are the good guys or something. And that's one that's deeply sick to me, there is the usual shit, like dunmer running of with argonian slave and so on.
Pozzed.
>like dunmer running of with argonian slave
Is it bad in the context?
Promotes racemixing (well, speciesmixing) and running off with some vagabond ex-slave against wishes of your father as positive things.
You sure it's not just a mundane occurrence? It's hardly sounds as some polit ops.
pozzed dude, pozzed. didn't you see his buzzword?
I don't know about polit ops, it's more that I don't want such garbage in my fantasy entertainment. Although as I said, that one is at least typical. One with brainwashing just makes quest writers seem tone deaf or whatever. Your typical libshit would scream about my body my choice and such things, yet we get brainwashing.
ESO greatly misunderstands what the relationship between Dunmer and Argonians is supposed to be like. The Dunmer don't see the lizards as an inferior people who are better off as their slaves like in real life european chattel slavery, they see lizards and Khajiit as literally just two species of intelligent animals, and in the case of the Argonians, they're also deeply disgusted by them and consider them blasphemous travesties of nature whom they enslave primarily because they despise them that much. There having 100% indigenous Dunmer abolitionists makes no fricking sense, and there having so many Dunmer who are willing to bang them (most of whom are gay oddly enough) makes even less sense, they should have at least depicted It as some fricking peta-esque thing rather than an actual abolitionist movement. I'd also mention how they'd never enter a military alliance with lizards but the whole fricking faction war is nonsensical.
This is an example of the wider phenomenon of the very sterilized and stupidly modern way ESO writes the TES setting. Altmer are no longer an entire society fanatic isolationist eugenicists who are willing to pay tribute to the Second Empire in exchange for no one ever visiting Alinor, Second Era Orcs are no longer treated as literally just a type of big Goblin who are killed on sight, Bosmer are no longer an entire society of religious cannibals, now only a tiny minority of them are! It's all very silly and It just shows the writers aren't willing to drop their modern sensibilities, makes the setting lose its edge and feel like some whimsical nu-dnd game that happens to be TES themed. It's not the only issue with the game of course, but I think that's what that anon was talking about, it's not just a silly /misc/ thing.
No bad tactics, only bad targets, etc.
I'll just say this outright.
If you think ESO is good, then you plain and simply have no idea what made the elder scrolls setting good in the first place.
Its the cynical theme park version of elder scrolls. It does everything to convince you otherwise other than build an actual living breathing setting.
Jokes on you, I never actually played it. I'm making posts to hear what others think about it. I don't really play games anymore, other than occasional roguelike.
they’re sort of like atheists IRL who have horrible birth rates, they just stopped existing
The heavy Western Mystery Tradition influence on the setting in these games really makes for some very interesting mythology.
>what happened to the dwemers?
What's a dwemer?
SONG ENDS
>gay
RUINED
What's with the ESL crap in this vid? It took me out of it and prevented me from enjoying it. Can euros just make things in their own language please?
are you
We live in a society.
>Yes. I blame society.
Well their comedic writing is pretty good
Hjalti
Wasn't real
>dwemer philosodwarves invent simulation theory
>dwemer scidwarves become convinced they inhabit a simulation
>dewmer scidwarves & engidwarves break the fourth wall, access the console
>accidentally dwemer.kill
>poof
Still doesn't explain why a single dwemer was spared.
Maybe it's like Idiocracy?
Had the Essential flag checked.
doesn't make you unkillable in morrowind
because Michael Kirkbride thought it was cool
Wasn't he in the plains of oblivion at the time?
I spent like damn near 150 bucks to get the "complete" experience of ESO at 40-35% off without buyng ESO+ (40% off the 21k crown pack, 35% off the delux necron collection). Just need to wait for some of the lesser-important DLC bundles to go on sale in the crown store. Only DLC I bought "full price" was the bundle that gets you the thieves/brotherhood guilds and the orc homeland one. Managed to snag the Reach bundle at 41% off at the last day. I have like 101 bag slots and 60 bank slots so far at level 12, went with a Redguard Templar. How far into the game do you think I can get as a non-subbed, purely B2P consumer?
Brotip: You can buy an expansion/DLC/whatever on Steam, refund it, and keep the game on your ESO account. I don't suspect this would be abusable though but it's how I got Blackwood a few years back. A /vg/ anon gifted me some areas and I need to finish Northern Elsweyr sometime.
That's cool to know, thanks anon. I just finished getting myself certified to do crafting dailies, and so far I'm using about 70% of my overall storage just for ingredients. I can see how the unlimited crafting bag would be a big deal but I really, really want to avoid getting involved in any subsription services or battle pass shit.
>I really, really want to avoid getting involved in any subsription services or battle pass shit
this is why I don't play any online GaaS shit even if I would be interested
I was one of those dumbasses who bought diablo 4 and I also had the bright idea to give fallout 76 a try on gamepass and I ended up stuck in fomo BS, logging in every day just to do chores in games i didn't care about in order to finish the battlepass. I hate them so much. I finished and uninstalled those games last week and the freedom is just so liberating. Don't be like me, anon.
I've contemplated buying fallout 76 since it goes for peanuts these days but shit like that is precisely why I haven't and won't
Yeah dude I was under 2 hours and there was literal false advertisment on what you get from the store page so it was an easy quick refund on their end and free hours of gametime for me. 🙂
know I'm late to the party but...
nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJg-kIRm4oM
How creepy.
Did they give women the vote?
zero summed after playing the brown note.
Why does everybody forget Vistha-Kai?
Typical diabetic.jpg
dwemer can telepathically hear what other dwemer think
kagronak uses the tools and hears a voice that makes him zero sum and disappear
yagrum was at the time in oblivion so he didn't hear it
Is there really any in-game book that describes high elf buildings as being made out of poetry or did ESO devs truly just straight up lie about It?
I dont remember that and it's likely metaphorical at any rate. Poetry fricking sucks as a building material I tell you hwat.
>Poetry fricking sucks as a building material I tell you hwat
Funny cause ESO devs claim that Altmer buildings used to be described as being made out of "poetry", and that's why they NEEDED to have them live in generic castles instead. It's why I asked
poetry? The frick. The Pocket Guide, First Edition describes the architecture of alinor like this:
>A forbidden city for nearly fifty years, Alinor is both capital of the Summerset Isles and the heart of the Aldmeri Dominion. Human traders were only allowed at its ports, and they described the city as "made from glass or insect wings." Less fantastic accounts come from the Imperial emissaries of the Reman Dynasty, which describe the city as straight and glimmering, "a hypnotic swirl of ramparts and impossibly high towers, designed to catch the light of the sun and break it to its component colors, which lies draped across its stones until you are thankful for nightfall."
The ESO devs and artists are literal pseuds. The game is 99% GENERIC fantasy and I mean really generic ,but once in a while they throw in a line of dialogue directly referencing (rather than just subtly implying or nodding it like the real games do) obscure schizo lore so people think that means the whole game is centered on the esoteric and fantastic lore which it absolutely is not.
>The ESO devs and artists are literal pseuds.
this, i just say the walking citys of valenwood
To be fair, I don't think they could do those even if they wanted to. It's just too big of a thing and at least Falinesti got asspulled into not being in the game at all. The Altmer shit is different since Crystal buildings are perfectly doable and they had to lie to justify not doing it.
World of Warcraft's Silvermoon city was already out there, it was proof that you can make a city with those aesthetics. but that would have required both talent and creativity, both things that ESO devs lack.
Yep, people shill It by claiming it's the weirdest TES has been since Morrowind or something but It's just Oblivion on a much larger scale, and the few good things It did do aren't anywhere near as good as Oblivion's good shit.
"we dont exist anymore"
Who's talking?
This but Morrowind Flame Atronach
kinda gay
Who is that elf beauty?
>Image posted for years
>just now noticing elf
Have you forgotten? Around elves, watch yourselves.
>It's pronounced new medium. It's purposeful
oh shit, never noticed that
>ESO lore
dwemer ruin theme
more like
Is Tamriel Rebuilt worth a damn?
yes
Yeah it's nice
More reason to keep a morrowind play through going at the least
holy shit this is some ancient stuff.
Wasn't the Buenos Dias meme from like 2017 or something? Not that old
2016, still old.
Is this guy the only known living dwemer in elder scrolls?
The Redgard Falion claims to have met some, but hes crazy.
yes
they cut themselves in half because spider chairs were the shit and then realized they didn't have dicks anymore
The Ashlanders knew all along
>And so the Chimer and Dwemer went to war. The Dwemer were well-defended by their fortress at Red Mountain, but the bravery and cleverness of Nerevar's queen and generals drew most of Dumac's armies out into the field and kept them there, so that Nerevar and Dagoth-Ur could make their way into the Heart Chamber by secret means. There, Nerevar met Dumac and the Dwarf King and they both fell from grievous wounds. Dagoth-Ur slew Kagrenac and took the tools the Dwemer used to tap the power of the Heart. He went to his dying lord Nerevar and asked him what to do with these tools. And Nerevar summoned Azura again, and she showed them how to use the tools to separate the power of the Heart from the Dwemer people.
>And on the fields, the Tribunal and their armies watched as the Dwemer turned into dust all around them as their stolen immortality was taken away.
>people who live in ash & eat dust all day every day's cultural mythology revolves around ... Dust.
Whoa what a revelation
wait, so someone ELSE CHIM’s them out of existence?
frickin lol
talos was a BRETON
sometimes I wonder if he still had a penis but then I stop wondering because I don't like to think about mens wieners
They built their own god in reality which then activated chim causing half a dozen parallel universes to exist all at the same time causing plot holes in reality (a man would die while also fricking his wife while also building a house while also saving a life which causes all of those things to have happened despite it not being possible). Their god then nuked itself out of existence for breaking reality which dragged all the dwemer along with it to nonexistence because they were a part of it spiritually.
But why
this is probably a dumb question, but do the elder scrolls have anything to do with it? The Dwemer had some and knew how to read them without going insane/blind. Shouldn't they have seen their un-existence coming? Or did they just see a future where they were got raptured and assume Kagrenac was going to succeed?
Difficultly. I don't see Elder Scrolls being used much in lore, to be honest. They are very specific situations that they appear
>Its crazy to think that Bethesda games actually used to have soul
They literally made 1 game after Skyrim, which was Fallout 4 (if you count only the main team), which also has a lot of soul too
Tbh, F76 has a lot of soul too, despite the problems
Where did it all go wrong?
They became giant robot skin. Extra crispy
the only good thing redditpombo has ever done
>When Kagrenac binds you to the Nintendumidium
BING BING WA-
WAAAAAAAAAGH
>you and your kin will form the skin that protects the Brass God
>your body lays amongst a thousand others that will make up the bell
Wew
>Wild wild west reference
god its old
I can't believe these guys used to make Snow Elves their slaves wtf??? Snow Elves were like the coolest and strongest
Genocidal lunatics who butchered babies and old people for some magic ball
Just like Templars almost, but they were doing it in the name of god
>Snow Elves were like the coolest
lol
>and the strongest
LMAO
they're still the coolest, your comment didn't have any content other than a social media meme
>they're still the coolest
lol
>ESO toned down on their carnivorous tendencies
Peak souless
>Thread devolves into Mer superiority argument
don't you know you're all equally inferior to SLOAD CHAD BVLLS?!
>Khajiit are not furries, we are another species of Mer.
Garfield and the gang weren't singing that tune when ole Whitestrake showed up one day.
ESO toned down a shitload of stuff.
>Khajiit society isn't a bunch of chaotic housecats snorting drugs
>Wood elves don't cannibalize shit
>Altmer and Dunmer are less racist
>Nords are sober
>Redguards are less Weeboo
>Bretons are less scheming backsta-
Wait, actually, they depict that pretty faithfully if I recall.
and Dunmer are less racist
are less Weeboo
Excuse me what the frick
Who the god damn is writing for this frickign game and give me one good reason why I shouldnt march down to the studio and punch him in the dick.
uhh, yagrumbros??
When Kagrenac tapped in to the Heart of Lorkhan the entire Dwemer race was exposed to the truth of the Godshead, and being a rational race they were unable to accept that their entire existence was a dream and were thus purged from it
the angry time traveling robot took over their robot god and zapped them away for the crime of being elves
Imagine fricking a dunmer bawd with your bwc
I thought it was an american on the picture
Rent free
Obvious he ate them
>"You wonder where the Dwemer have gone? Perhaps better to wonder why one remains. Even gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
He's Kagrenac , isn't he?
can we get chat gpt to pretend to be dagoth ur with eleven labs as tts?
You got $5?
Yes I have five dorror
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/49210
No I'm talking about prompting chat gpt to be a god then have eleven labs do quality speech in real time.
They hid behind maths and equations like always. Nirn is illogical and to give supreme power to the illogical is to zero sum.
Why did the totem of tiber septim look like a baby?Hiw do you even control the giabt robot with it?