What is it about this type that filters people who are bad at the game?
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What is it about this type that filters people who are bad at the game?
What is it about this type that filters people who are bad at the game?
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Because winning with it requires you to actually think instead of "hurr mindlessly switch in and click super effective move"
No it is actually exactly that. It hits a shit ton of things super effectively and pairs well with hyper offense. No idea what you're talking about
you can't switch in an Ice-type, dumbass
the fact that it has 4 weaknesses and only resists itself
Sheer cold and other OHKO moves are banned in singles moron
Then how come that webm shows it triggering just fine?
>he plays comp on cart and not on showdown
sad!
>he plays a fanfic meta that bans random Pokémon because they make battles go quicker
sad!
>>he plays a fan made meta that bans broken Pokémon because they make battles less skill based
ftfy
I love how Smogon claims this creates a healthy meta
Meanwhile, Japan has all sorts of crazy strategies and an insanely healthy meta because they don't ban everything
Such as? Because VGC is so overcentralized due to Flutter Mane and Urshifu-R. Flutter Mane alone has almost double usage Kingambit has in Smogon singles.
Plus I doubt you’re gonna show something other than niche set on 1 Pokemon that you could easily find for singles too.
Luck is a skill no matter how much you cry about. If you were skillful you could actually beat people without such crutches.
>using game mechanics is a crutch
average fanfictard logic
>It’s a game mechanic so it’s not a crutch
ok, moronkun.
In actual Smogon tournaments some mons have 75 or even 80% usage, people on Smogon ladder are just more casual than VGC ladder
>i-it’s skilled when I put my defensive pokenon in front of an ice type and surprised pikachu face when I can punished by getting frozen or sheer colded
>he plays a shitty scroubles meta with more than 50% usage on the top mons and super solved metagames
sad!
>Requires you to think
>Shows Webm of Ice type clicking luck based move
Ok, moronkun
You do know OHKO moves aren't exclusive to Ice types right?
>he thinks he can win VGC spamming sheer cold and it isnt just a super sacky move
>NOOO WINNING WITH THAT THING IN THE GAME DOESN'T COUNT AS WINNING THE GAME
what is it with campaignshitters making up weird arbitrary rules?
OHKO moves are only meta on bulky mons to counter other bulky mons as an absolute last resort
You're not gonna have a successful bulky ice type with the type's current design
>OHKO moves are only meta on bulky mons
? Then how am I able to use it on my Ninetales to kill Toxapex?
moronkun…I’m not sure you know what meta means…
Both those Pokemon are meta. Are you sure you know what it means, campaignshitter?
>campaign players are shitters
>smogon players are shitters
what i'm gathering is you're playing a format nobody could care less about like VGC, so your opinion doesn't matter
you're free to run suboptimal movesets if you so desire
sometimes it might even pay off
just don't pretend they're actually good through the power of results-oriented thinking
> just don't pretend they're actually good
they are though
Exactly humans like winning so obviously the best mons will be OVERUSED. Infact in the threads about your party in past games you see overlaps with the same overused pokemon like Gardevoir or Staraptor for example.
>The Pokemon is meta so the moveset must be meta too!
Oh moronkun…That’s not how it works…
>
>Using Smogon
moronkun…
>it's not meta
>"then why did I beat a highly used pokemon with it"
>u-um no I mean the moveset isn't meta
>"ok here's this thing that says the moveset is meta"
>NOOOOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT
campaignshitters, not even once
moronkun…
How the frick is 100 SpA low?
The same way base 100 speed is low nowadays too.
Power creep is a b***h.
I mean for a non sweeper
Powercreep. 100 SpA is only acceptable if you have an ability that boosts damage output by +20% or higher and a signature move with priority that ignores status changes, ignores subs and breaks screens.
>bragging because you can win 30% of the time
fitting for iceshitters
>play the game
>ice needs a buff
>ice doesn't need a buff
>campaign shitter
>extinct for a reason
>some pokemon are supposed to be weak
>I won battles because I lucked out on a 10% chance tied to a broken mechanic
>webm of alolan ninetales using sheer cold
>wojaks
>vgc usage statistics
>actually this slow pokemon is offensively oriented
>this pokemon that struggles in a playthrough is actually good in competitive
>no one cares about <pokemon>
>smogie
><pokemon> shouldn't have <new move or ability>
I have a strong feeling every Ice thread is made in bad faith for the purpose of starting arguments. And no, any attempts to back me into a corner to accuse me of any of your morono wojak Discord shit will not work because this thread has been hidden.
I love you Ganker X.
it's definitely one guy and he's definitely trolling because nobody is that stupid
Well the term "campaign shitter" is only ever used by yawngay so there is that
Its defensively shit so not worth using outside of Snow teams
then why is chien pao the second most used pokemon and commonly used with stellar type which doesn’t even change its defensive typing?
because chien pao is designed to be fast and strong enough not take hits at all, a trait it shares with LITERALLY only one other pokémon while EVERY SINGLE other ice type is slow and defensive and dies to everything you disengenuous cherrypicking fricking discord troll.
>NOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT
lmao
moronkun that’s the RegF stats I posted. Chien Pao only has 18% usage and is below 8 Pokemon.
>2 ice types
>0 bug types
oh no no I thought campaignshitters on /vp/ told me bug is better than ice type? What happened bros?
SEVEN of the 18 types resist Bug, and ALL of them happen to have key roles in VGC that it's honestly not worth bringing a Bug Type outright.
>VGC
nobody cares about doubles
Bug is also shit but at least it has more than 1 resist
Calm down moronkun, Ice is still worse than bug.
btw moronkun, Araquanid is now used more than Iron Bundle, the second most used Ice type.
https://www.pikalytics.com/
You need to update your shitty bait, moronkun!
>then why is chien pao the second most used pokemon and commonly used with stellar type which doesn’t even change its defensive typing?
there isn’t any usage info in Tera types but I’m pretty sure Ghost is its most common Tera Type.
Also it has slightly worse stats than fricking Zacian.
Ice is not the worst type after the several buffs it got
Now it's simply the worst designed type
>the massive disparity between the offensive and defensive profile makes most designs that aren't "fast all-out attacker" useless
>also makes Ice-type coverage overly strong since those Pokemon don't have to deal with the defensive downsides
>has to essentially cheat by halving all damage with Aurora Veil and that strat still doesn't work without a fast Snow Warning pokemon (Alolan Ninetales is kinda carrying the entire type)
>almost all good moves just have a random 10% chance to screw the target with the worst designed status condition, Freeze
>Freeze duration is completely random, adding variance on top of variance
>Since the chance is so low, any playing around Freeze is not generally worth it and will only be done incidentally when playing around other, more relevant things
>Snow is better than Hail but is still by far the least interesting weather since it only benefits Ice-types while every other weather benefits at least 2 types, leading to boring, monotone teams
>has literally 2 types of status moves: "reset stats" and "set snow/take advantage of snow"
>Ice pokemon are delegated to the "ice area", usually like 80+% through the game and thus are rarely even considered for an in-game playthrough
It has only one resist so its complete Rillaboom shit
I have nothing of value to add, I just want to frick Froslass and Abomasnow
>Im gonna Tera Ice
Said no one ever
Rock is the worst type in general
Bug is below average, not the worst, but there's nothing to give it an edge like grass's powder immunity or ghost's inability to be trapped
Ice is the most frustrating type though, because the changes it needs are so simple and obvious yet Gamefreak continues to pussyfoot around them, and will likely continue to do so for as long as this franchise lasts
>because the changes it needs are so simple and obvious
it doesn't need any changes
also bug is easily worse than rock
Which changes, Anon