Well first of all because the game sucked but second of all they have been on a downhill trajectory since they fricked over their fans by running to Playstation, it definitely paid off with the release of FF7 but it's backfired long term
>oh man, this hallway simulator is so engaging >i can't wait to hold forward for the next 45 seconds while i wait for another enemy to pop up >oh boy an enemy! >i can't wait to press a for 2 minutes so i can get back to holding forward! >this is such a great game
moronic
13 was loved in japan for being generic strong female power fantasy (and clever marketing and convenience store merch), just like 12 was loved by casualgays that wanted a built-in bot to level and farm for them, or 9 being loved by pedos and furries for some reason
>and 13
It sure is bizarre being on this board long enough to see the zoomers grow up and start posting about how great garbage like Halo and FF13 are just because they played them as kids 10 years ago when Ganker was relentlessly shitting all over them.
13 and 15 were significant failures, that's why. No, they didn't completely bomb and immediately crash the company, but neither of them sold particularly well to cover the insane costs of development and marketing. 7 was the big flash in the pan generational kick-off that gets remembered fondly to this day (despite being inferior to 8 on many levels), 9 was the critical darling return to form that sold decently, 10 was another console kick-off success, but 13 and 15 sort of showed Square that that wasn't going to happen a third time on 3D consoles. It's nakedly evident from the heavily scaled down experience of XIII-2 and LR that both games were an attempt for SE to recoup their costs from the beleaguered development of XIII. Now they've done it again with XVI, and the magic is gone. The insane sway that FF held over the market during the PS1 gen is long dead, and the only one that seems to continually generate revenue is the mostly classic fantasy styled MMO and the classic FF styled mobile games.
>playing the HD report or whatever you’d called it >just turn on fast forward and draw 99 of the good spell of monsters >constantly go back to the mutant village and buy more ultimate >stick with Squall, Zell and Quistis through most of the game >just give each one a third of GFs >use junction exchange whenever necessary >by the end enemies are scaled to 99, 99, 99 and 30, 30, 30 average >just use meltdown on bosses and Aura on Squall and Zell >get so quick at Zells limit break I can spam the two button combo and do 9999 like 24 times if I get 30 second roll
LOL
Square no longer can make a good final fantasy and most likely don't know how. Tetsuya Nomura, yes the guy who worked on character designs for ff7 he's the belt man, got to be director on a few games but he got shot up in the company's hierarchy super quick and basically all he can do now is either die or resign when the company has a big enough loss.
FF13 was going to be their 10 year game. They were gonna make spin-off after spin-off for them it was going to be their new ff7. I can only assume they are attempting to do it again, they have already done it with kingdom hearts.
>FF13 was going to be their 10 year game.
Ironically, it really was. Type 0 spun off onto its own thing and shortly after, XV became reality, meanwhile out of the ashes of this failed trilogy ANOTHER FRICKING DIFFERENT TRILOGY arose. The XIII saga was definitely a dark era for Final Fantasy, and a really fricking confusing one too. What started as Fabula Nova Crystalis mutated into the Lightning Trilogy before looping back around. It was so weird to be an FF fan from the years 2009-2016. It was indeed a ten year franchise in that regard.
I want a FF7R style remake of FF8 badly. The world of FF8 is really underutilized for how cool and insane it really is. The biggest groups of mercenaries that actively shape the tides of war are floating high schools filled with schizo brain damaged orphans. It’s just really fricking cool
>teens
Young, idealistic, not completely brain damaged from GF >schools
To specifically train an elite Sorceress killing team >different gardens
To increase the odds of creating the kill team without a Sorceress government getting involved >Norg
Narratively out of place and under-utilised but a reminder that idealistic Sorceress slaying is built on a cynical foundation of violence for monetary gain >GF
The antagonists are magic users, the protagonists need magic too, and it comes at a cost
>why teens
sexier >why schools
that where you find teens >why different gardens
just logistics dude cmon >why norg/shumi
idk what that is >why gf
i dont have a gf
>why norg/shumi
because it's badass? you come back and those weird headless things are attacking you and the garden is out of control then you have to go deep inside the garden to kill jabba the hut in the basement. It's fricking great.
>its a really nonsensical story
anon thats literally every FF game
hell FF10 you travel through time to fight the ghost of your dead father who's become the harbinger of the apocalypse
11 you're just some mute who stands there while you try to find children, fight every faction for no reason then ride an airship to talk to ascended balls of light to fight giant flower pots before killing god so a e-girl can rip a crystal out of her chest to become mortal again.
This. It even had the time shenanigans written in with Ultimecia's time compression. But square's been milking ff7 since compilation and they will continue to do so.
FFVIII's world feels really weird. It's like there's nothing in it. There's very little sense of history or logic to it. I guess you could call it dreamlike but it's one of those vaguely unpleasant dreams.
Like listen to this world map music, none of the other games sound this dour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7jRbujYhSc
Makes you think Squall was right to be an autistic introvert, I'd be miserable in that world too. Nothing makes sense and everyone is an idiot.
When Square lost millions making the final fantasy movie, Hironobu Sakaguchi had no choice but to resign. He was the big pin stopping them from making sequels to games. Soon as hes gone what gets made? FFX- right away before the merger.
Prob the reason why kh1 and kh2 werent complete dumpster fires that keep the series alive to this day was because they were some of the last games developed by squaresoft.
I will give FF8 this. Reducing the party size to 6 was a step in the right direction. The issue is that the game fails to make the party other than Squall and Rinoa involved in the plot
Hubris mostly. The suits and shareholders still mistakenly think that Final Fantasy is still the juggernaut household it was during the SNES to PS2 era and that "production value" was what made them the juggernaut. The thing is, FFXII was the last game where you could have that level of production value and also depth of system for the budget they set out, and literally every single player offline Final Fantasy since has been them focusing on production value at the expense of depth. But now that they're know for visual bloat, they cant just scale back production anymore. So they just become a shallow parody of themselves.
X is the best game in story, characters, music, atmosphere, world building, side quests, summons, gameplay (X-2 being the BEST gameplay, but awful story). GTFO, you'll probably respond as a fricking FFIXgay
it must be amazing to be so low in intelligence you are this easily fooled by illusion of choice
sincerely, im jealous as frick because my mind basically just makes everything math and thanks to math I have calculated that you are factually moronic because no you fricking moron, there is not. FFX has more damn secrets than most others, it just does not have the world map (which is lame). But having a world map does not mean you aren't trapped in going from A to B all the same, with a few paths to do miniscule things. In FFX, these are literal paths that exist. If you can't grasp this holy frick please tell me your trick to not using your mind
8 months ago
Anonymous
>defending his rails garbage by saying he likes rails
8 months ago
Anonymous
rails of coke are amazing and would probably make you enjoy life more
maybe open ur mind from ur narrow minded views too, ff8cuck
8 months ago
Anonymous
>so mad he doesn't even know what he is supposed to insult
8 months ago
Anonymous
please tell me how to lower my iq like you, ffv-troony
8 months ago
Anonymous
Is the Diablo 3 gay going to cry?
8 months ago
Anonymous
I bet you enjoy FFIII, FF7gay
8 months ago
Anonymous
Look get mad all you want but call of duty is a bad game and you crying about it isn't going to change that.
8 months ago
Anonymous
XII will NEVER be a good game, let alone a good FF game!
8 months ago
Anonymous
>lost the plot so hard you circled back around to agreeing with me
Well X is in my top 3, but 6 and 7 are actually pretty decently non-linear, especially after you get the airship in those games.
I do not understand why 8 and 9 gays make a big deal out of it though. Those games are X with an overworld as far as linearity goes though.
come on man, I love X but it's objectively a lot more railroaded than most FFs released up to that point, 90% of the map is a literal straight line. the edge it's got over 13 is that you don't just fight all the time and you actually learn a lot on how the world works
modern day minmaxing autists and dataminers would break the game apart in 3 days tops. the old game was broken sure but most people couldn't or didn't access the most broken things because they didn't know how. with the internet nowadays being an expert gamer is a few clicks away, sometimes the answer is algorithmically thrown in your face.
>get Summons >ideal way to use them is to not summon them >get Draw >ideal way to use it is to not use Draw >get into random battle >ideal way to play game is to not fight it
It feels like the optimum way to play this game's combat is to only fight bosses, spam Limits, and otherwise just spam the card game.
I like to joke that FFVIII is a card game masquerading as a JRPG the same way FFXII is a programming game masquerading as a JRPG.
But I'd genuinely rather take weird, autistic systems like these than "empty sandbox mcroadtrip" and "Uncharted formula but with Chocobos". At least VIII and XII had role-playing systems that made you interact with the world.
this is somewhat true but also misleading. you will have to draw and turn enemies into cards occasionally, and there's plenty of boss battles and optional superbosses where you can unleash your arsenal of powers, including summons. there is a super optimal way of becoming OP and breaking the game but to get there you will need to follow a faq.
They've unironically bought into their own literally gay hype machine that states that the more nonsensical, flashy and homoerotic the story is the better it is. I don't blame 8 for this because at least there's a love story in there somewhere but along the way Square just completely lost it.
The genre has become too expensive to make into triple-A. Imagine if you will, an entire planet, traversable and seamless, and not just that, but a fully realized setting and story which are both wholly original and ambtious, all the while not being a tropey shonen with scream battles and prolonged cutscenes that drag. A cast of characters that you won't soon forget, all playable and each with their own abilities and animations. Optional dungeons, optional content, optional abilities, and optional party members all tucked into each corner of the world, and they're everywhere.
Now look at what triple-A gaming offers today, and tell me with a straight face that you still think it's possible, and released in a timely fashion. FFXVI had literally everything going for it, and the best they could do was release something divisive that people forgot about 3 months later.
Final Fantasy is over.
Nier Automata
Dragon Quest XI
Persona 5
Tales of Vesperia
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and 3
Star Ocean 4 and 6
Ni no Kuni
Code Vein and Scarlet Nexus
Go ahead. Take your time. Clutch at as many straws as you want. Tell me how a whole bunch of these "aren't technically AAA". The truth is the JRPG genre has moved on without Final Fantasy and we're in a much better place since we just ignored whatever Final Fantasy has been doing. These games are all much better games than the last three single player offline Final Fantasies. And they all did it without needing graphical bloat.
have a nice day lmao
may as well fricking include Dark Souls and Devil May Cry with how shitty and moronic braindead that list is in stretching what is meant by jrpg
>FFXVI had literally everything going for it, and the best they could do was release something divisive that people forgot about 3 months later.
honestly, they did an excellent job with most things, but I think they weren't fully aware of what game they were making. the combat system is fun but XVI is like playing a 60 hours long DMC level, and that's only one of the issues it has. I appreciate the effort to try something new, but they took it too far in the wrong places
Love the setting and the story but the game mechanics are broken and moronic it wouldnt work in current setting with out changing a lot if that happens a lot of butt holes are gonna get hurt. Sucks hope they do make a remake with new game mechanics tho.
I prefer and would rather play a game with a learning curve where you have to master a system than some highly polished "made with the best design practices" slop. breaking the systems is also a part of fun and indication that you have mastered the game. you don't have that in most modern games, you just press X to win.
But want the system in ff8 bad most of it was just draw draw draw yes broken systems are fun but when it's broken and it makes it feel like a chore then it's boring. Like people dont level up in the game cos the enemies level up with you that alone is bad. Reminds me of the tales series you get in moronic amounts of battles but you only gain very few exp and gold which made the game unplayable for me. Good mechanics and all but it has to have a reward system if it doesnt it's just terrible
if you're a min-maxing homosexual, then yeah, but every game is like that. min-maxing makes games boring by design. instead of thinking "what is the objectively best way to play this game," think "what is the most fun way FOR ME to play this game"
>think "what is the most fun way FOR ME to play this game"
Feels surreal that anyone needs to make such a statement in the first place.
What are people even playing videogames for nowadays? How is that not the very first thought?
the rise of e-sports and the youtube let's-player ruined people's perception of what gaming is. gaming is now something to perfect, rather than something to enjoy.
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I'm fine with optimizing if that's what somebody enjoys but in games like FFVIII it's not really worth it, especially if it means skipping a lot of battles
even if you don't break the system and play it like any other FF by leveling up your characters it's not impossible to beat the game and have fun. learning what to draw and what to skip is part of the learning curve. some spells are just not worth to junction or they can be obtained through other means. just admit you hate contrived systems and you hate learning, you just want to enjoy the game by applying the already established rules from other games which is fair but not my cup of tea.
I've accepted the original steam version with modded music for chocobo world. it's a shame the original is missing access to certain things in the west because of the pocketstation.
FF8 is kind of like FF16, where it's middle of the line and mediocre, which means every person who has an opinion on it either calls it the best or the worst in the franchise.
no more soul
They only want to make FFs that are 50% nonsensical rather than 80%.
they make sense
filtered and homosexuals
Well first of all because the game sucked but second of all they have been on a downhill trajectory since they fricked over their fans by running to Playstation, it definitely paid off with the release of FF7 but it's backfired long term
FF7, 8, 10, 12, and 13 are some of the most kino kinos to ever be released thoughever.
>13
>kino
So we've reached the stage where, now, FF13 is a good game. Incredible.
it's all relative, mane. ff15 will be a classic by the end of this decade
>So we've reached the stage where, now, FF13 is a good game. Incredible.
No. It's this anons Final Fantasy.
It always was, it just filtered journos and adhd Black folk
>oh man, this hallway simulator is so engaging
>i can't wait to hold forward for the next 45 seconds while i wait for another enemy to pop up
>oh boy an enemy!
>i can't wait to press a for 2 minutes so i can get back to holding forward!
>this is such a great game
moronic
But enough about FFX
every FF game made after 8 is trash at best, so like i give a frick about 10
This makes no sense
the only people who could possibly enjoy FFXII are adhders because all you do is hit auto battle, hold up, and watch explosions
Yes. Ironic weebs are simply lashing out at the moment because Japan figured them out (8 years late, but better than nothing.)
13 was loved in japan for being generic strong female power fantasy (and clever marketing and convenience store merch), just like 12 was loved by casualgays that wanted a built-in bot to level and farm for them, or 9 being loved by pedos and furries for some reason
I was with you until 13.
>13 is good
Zoomers are not allowed here mate.
>skips 9
>mentions 13
>and 13
It sure is bizarre being on this board long enough to see the zoomers grow up and start posting about how great garbage like Halo and FF13 are just because they played them as kids 10 years ago when Ganker was relentlessly shitting all over them.
FFVII and FFX are their best and most popular FFs though.
I honestly think FF would have died out if they stuck with N64. That console was a graveyard for JRPGs. They moved to PS1 for a reason.
13 and 15 were significant failures, that's why. No, they didn't completely bomb and immediately crash the company, but neither of them sold particularly well to cover the insane costs of development and marketing. 7 was the big flash in the pan generational kick-off that gets remembered fondly to this day (despite being inferior to 8 on many levels), 9 was the critical darling return to form that sold decently, 10 was another console kick-off success, but 13 and 15 sort of showed Square that that wasn't going to happen a third time on 3D consoles. It's nakedly evident from the heavily scaled down experience of XIII-2 and LR that both games were an attempt for SE to recoup their costs from the beleaguered development of XIII. Now they've done it again with XVI, and the magic is gone. The insane sway that FF held over the market during the PS1 gen is long dead, and the only one that seems to continually generate revenue is the mostly classic fantasy styled MMO and the classic FF styled mobile games.
>scene change
>time to change every single "junction" for every single character
>not using Junction Exchange
NTA but to be fair I didn't even know that was a thing until like 10 years ago and I first played it in like 1999 lololol.
>playing the HD report or whatever you’d called it
>just turn on fast forward and draw 99 of the good spell of monsters
>constantly go back to the mutant village and buy more ultimate
>stick with Squall, Zell and Quistis through most of the game
>just give each one a third of GFs
>use junction exchange whenever necessary
>by the end enemies are scaled to 99, 99, 99 and 30, 30, 30 average
>just use meltdown on bosses and Aura on Squall and Zell
>get so quick at Zells limit break I can spam the two button combo and do 9999 like 24 times if I get 30 second roll
LOL
FFXV
Square no longer can make a good final fantasy and most likely don't know how. Tetsuya Nomura, yes the guy who worked on character designs for ff7 he's the belt man, got to be director on a few games but he got shot up in the company's hierarchy super quick and basically all he can do now is either die or resign when the company has a big enough loss.
FF13 was going to be their 10 year game. They were gonna make spin-off after spin-off for them it was going to be their new ff7. I can only assume they are attempting to do it again, they have already done it with kingdom hearts.
>FF13 was going to be their 10 year game.
Ironically, it really was. Type 0 spun off onto its own thing and shortly after, XV became reality, meanwhile out of the ashes of this failed trilogy ANOTHER FRICKING DIFFERENT TRILOGY arose. The XIII saga was definitely a dark era for Final Fantasy, and a really fricking confusing one too. What started as Fabula Nova Crystalis mutated into the Lightning Trilogy before looping back around. It was so weird to be an FF fan from the years 2009-2016. It was indeed a ten year franchise in that regard.
Rinoa is Ultimecia
Squall is Dead
We came this close to absolute kino lads…
both debunked
I rebunked it
>Rinoa is Ultimecia
kino
>Squall is Dead
lame
/vr/ autists proved that Q=U by looking at the game's code like 6 years ago
lurk more newbie
They've made plenty of trash like VIII though?
I want a FF7R style remake of FF8 badly. The world of FF8 is really underutilized for how cool and insane it really is. The biggest groups of mercenaries that actively shape the tides of war are floating high schools filled with schizo brain damaged orphans. It’s just really fricking cool
its a really nonsensical story
why teens
why schools
why different gardens
why norg/shumi
why gf
>teens
Young, idealistic, not completely brain damaged from GF
>schools
To specifically train an elite Sorceress killing team
>different gardens
To increase the odds of creating the kill team without a Sorceress government getting involved
>Norg
Narratively out of place and under-utilised but a reminder that idealistic Sorceress slaying is built on a cynical foundation of violence for monetary gain
>GF
The antagonists are magic users, the protagonists need magic too, and it comes at a cost
>why teens
Why hobos
>why schools
Why slums
>why different gardens
Why different reactors
>why norg/shumi
Why shinra
>why gf
Why super powerful monsters trapped in crystals
Everything is really stupid when you cherry pick out of context
>why teens
sexier
>why schools
that where you find teens
>why different gardens
just logistics dude cmon
>why norg/shumi
idk what that is
>why gf
i dont have a gf
>why norg/shumi
because it's badass? you come back and those weird headless things are attacking you and the garden is out of control then you have to go deep inside the garden to kill jabba the hut in the basement. It's fricking great.
>its a really nonsensical story
anon thats literally every FF game
hell FF10 you travel through time to fight the ghost of your dead father who's become the harbinger of the apocalypse
11 you're just some mute who stands there while you try to find children, fight every faction for no reason then ride an airship to talk to ascended balls of light to fight giant flower pots before killing god so a e-girl can rip a crystal out of her chest to become mortal again.
Okay, make ff1 sound nonsensical.
ff1 is a time travel game anon.
I guess I'm dumb? I've beaten it at least three times and I had no idea.
Time loops. The crazy shit was there from the first game.
Honestly 8 should have been the one with the RE:Make style story. There's so much shit they could have fixed and explained on.
This. It even had the time shenanigans written in with Ultimecia's time compression. But square's been milking ff7 since compilation and they will continue to do so.
FFVIII's world feels really weird. It's like there's nothing in it. There's very little sense of history or logic to it. I guess you could call it dreamlike but it's one of those vaguely unpleasant dreams.
Like listen to this world map music, none of the other games sound this dour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7jRbujYhSc
Makes you think Squall was right to be an autistic introvert, I'd be miserable in that world too. Nothing makes sense and everyone is an idiot.
They all have alzheimer's from huffing their GF's farts.
8 put all its lore into a menu screen you never read
God VIII’s soundtrack was so good. Easily uematsu’s best.
It really was, very memorable OST
Square doesn't make Final Fantasy games. Just shittier DmC knockoffs.
When Square lost millions making the final fantasy movie, Hironobu Sakaguchi had no choice but to resign. He was the big pin stopping them from making sequels to games. Soon as hes gone what gets made? FFX- right away before the merger.
Prob the reason why kh1 and kh2 werent complete dumpster fires that keep the series alive to this day was because they were some of the last games developed by squaresoft.
KH2 came out after FFX-2.
kh1 came out in 2022 a year before the merger, they would have already started on kh2.
I will give FF8 this. Reducing the party size to 6 was a step in the right direction. The issue is that the game fails to make the party other than Squall and Rinoa involved in the plot
Type-0, XV
Hubris mostly. The suits and shareholders still mistakenly think that Final Fantasy is still the juggernaut household it was during the SNES to PS2 era and that "production value" was what made them the juggernaut. The thing is, FFXII was the last game where you could have that level of production value and also depth of system for the budget they set out, and literally every single player offline Final Fantasy since has been them focusing on production value at the expense of depth. But now that they're know for visual bloat, they cant just scale back production anymore. So they just become a shallow parody of themselves.
SE is also a typical giga japanese company and each of the higher up regularly try to sabotage eachother in favor of "their" project
6-9 are the great ones, 1-5 and 10 are decent, and everything else has been complete dog shit
X is the best game in story, characters, music, atmosphere, world building, side quests, summons, gameplay (X-2 being the BEST gameplay, but awful story). GTFO, you'll probably respond as a fricking FFIXgay
>on rails garbage
It's shit
Every single FF is onrails garbage you inept, literally low iq moron who is tricked by an overworld map
FFXII isn't on-rails, the amount of non-critical map you're given access to at any single point in time is staggering.
>muh offline mmorpg
No there are a bunch of secrets you can easily miss when it is not actually on rails like 10.
it must be amazing to be so low in intelligence you are this easily fooled by illusion of choice
sincerely, im jealous as frick because my mind basically just makes everything math and thanks to math I have calculated that you are factually moronic because no you fricking moron, there is not. FFX has more damn secrets than most others, it just does not have the world map (which is lame). But having a world map does not mean you aren't trapped in going from A to B all the same, with a few paths to do miniscule things. In FFX, these are literal paths that exist. If you can't grasp this holy frick please tell me your trick to not using your mind
>defending his rails garbage by saying he likes rails
rails of coke are amazing and would probably make you enjoy life more
maybe open ur mind from ur narrow minded views too, ff8cuck
>so mad he doesn't even know what he is supposed to insult
please tell me how to lower my iq like you, ffv-troony
Is the Diablo 3 gay going to cry?
I bet you enjoy FFIII, FF7gay
Look get mad all you want but call of duty is a bad game and you crying about it isn't going to change that.
XII will NEVER be a good game, let alone a good FF game!
>lost the plot so hard you circled back around to agreeing with me
Well X is in my top 3, but 6 and 7 are actually pretty decently non-linear, especially after you get the airship in those games.
I do not understand why 8 and 9 gays make a big deal out of it though. Those games are X with an overworld as far as linearity goes though.
come on man, I love X but it's objectively a lot more railroaded than most FFs released up to that point, 90% of the map is a literal straight line. the edge it's got over 13 is that you don't just fight all the time and you actually learn a lot on how the world works
i only realized ff10 wouldn't have a worldmap after half of mi'hen road.
But anon... they HAVE made bad games like FF8 with 13, 15, and 16...
Anon, you listed the best games though…
modern day minmaxing autists and dataminers would break the game apart in 3 days tops. the old game was broken sure but most people couldn't or didn't access the most broken things because they didn't know how. with the internet nowadays being an expert gamer is a few clicks away, sometimes the answer is algorithmically thrown in your face.
common sense and decency
>get Summons
>ideal way to use them is to not summon them
>get Draw
>ideal way to use it is to not use Draw
>get into random battle
>ideal way to play game is to not fight it
It feels like the optimum way to play this game's combat is to only fight bosses, spam Limits, and otherwise just spam the card game.
No no, the optimum way to play is to do the opposite of all of that because then you can maximize your fun stat.
I like to joke that FFVIII is a card game masquerading as a JRPG the same way FFXII is a programming game masquerading as a JRPG.
But I'd genuinely rather take weird, autistic systems like these than "empty sandbox mcroadtrip" and "Uncharted formula but with Chocobos". At least VIII and XII had role-playing systems that made you interact with the world.
this is somewhat true but also misleading. you will have to draw and turn enemies into cards occasionally, and there's plenty of boss battles and optional superbosses where you can unleash your arsenal of powers, including summons. there is a super optimal way of becoming OP and breaking the game but to get there you will need to follow a faq.
They've unironically bought into their own literally gay hype machine that states that the more nonsensical, flashy and homoerotic the story is the better it is. I don't blame 8 for this because at least there's a love story in there somewhere but along the way Square just completely lost it.
The genre has become too expensive to make into triple-A. Imagine if you will, an entire planet, traversable and seamless, and not just that, but a fully realized setting and story which are both wholly original and ambtious, all the while not being a tropey shonen with scream battles and prolonged cutscenes that drag. A cast of characters that you won't soon forget, all playable and each with their own abilities and animations. Optional dungeons, optional content, optional abilities, and optional party members all tucked into each corner of the world, and they're everywhere.
Now look at what triple-A gaming offers today, and tell me with a straight face that you still think it's possible, and released in a timely fashion. FFXVI had literally everything going for it, and the best they could do was release something divisive that people forgot about 3 months later.
Final Fantasy is over.
XVI was made by MMO devs lmao
Not hard to make a AAA JRPG at all.
name one good AAA JRPG since Lost Odyssey
Nier Automata
Dragon Quest XI
Persona 5
Tales of Vesperia
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and 3
Star Ocean 4 and 6
Ni no Kuni
Code Vein and Scarlet Nexus
Go ahead. Take your time. Clutch at as many straws as you want. Tell me how a whole bunch of these "aren't technically AAA". The truth is the JRPG genre has moved on without Final Fantasy and we're in a much better place since we just ignored whatever Final Fantasy has been doing. These games are all much better games than the last three single player offline Final Fantasies. And they all did it without needing graphical bloat.
have a nice day lmao
may as well fricking include Dark Souls and Devil May Cry with how shitty and moronic braindead that list is in stretching what is meant by jrpg
you are BEYOND moronic, fricking beyond it
>FFXVI had literally everything going for it, and the best they could do was release something divisive that people forgot about 3 months later.
honestly, they did an excellent job with most things, but I think they weren't fully aware of what game they were making. the combat system is fun but XVI is like playing a 60 hours long DMC level, and that's only one of the issues it has. I appreciate the effort to try something new, but they took it too far in the wrong places
Love the setting and the story but the game mechanics are broken and moronic it wouldnt work in current setting with out changing a lot if that happens a lot of butt holes are gonna get hurt. Sucks hope they do make a remake with new game mechanics tho.
I prefer and would rather play a game with a learning curve where you have to master a system than some highly polished "made with the best design practices" slop. breaking the systems is also a part of fun and indication that you have mastered the game. you don't have that in most modern games, you just press X to win.
But want the system in ff8 bad most of it was just draw draw draw yes broken systems are fun but when it's broken and it makes it feel like a chore then it's boring. Like people dont level up in the game cos the enemies level up with you that alone is bad. Reminds me of the tales series you get in moronic amounts of battles but you only gain very few exp and gold which made the game unplayable for me. Good mechanics and all but it has to have a reward system if it doesnt it's just terrible
>I read a guide for the game and I still played it wrong
Ganker is just full of these 60 iq ESL apes
I am more surprised how they spend so much time hear and still can't apply basic chatGPT functions like translating few sentences into english.
if you're a min-maxing homosexual, then yeah, but every game is like that. min-maxing makes games boring by design. instead of thinking "what is the objectively best way to play this game," think "what is the most fun way FOR ME to play this game"
>think "what is the most fun way FOR ME to play this game"
Feels surreal that anyone needs to make such a statement in the first place.
What are people even playing videogames for nowadays? How is that not the very first thought?
the rise of e-sports and the youtube let's-player ruined people's perception of what gaming is. gaming is now something to perfect, rather than something to enjoy.
I'm fine with optimizing if that's what somebody enjoys but in games like FFVIII it's not really worth it, especially if it means skipping a lot of battles
homie, are you on crack? that post is just a mess
even if you don't break the system and play it like any other FF by leveling up your characters it's not impossible to beat the game and have fun. learning what to draw and what to skip is part of the learning curve. some spells are just not worth to junction or they can be obtained through other means. just admit you hate contrived systems and you hate learning, you just want to enjoy the game by applying the already established rules from other games which is fair but not my cup of tea.
Do you have any idea how much space and performance all those maps would take if they were 3D instead of paintings?
FFXII managed it.
>FFXII
Ah yes, the majesty of a hundred empty desert and empty grassland maps.
in 2006 btw
they only want to make shit games instead of good ones.
i'm sure this wasn't the answer you were looking for, OP, but it's unfortunately the only one.
R
=
U
SQUALL IS KILL
Because FFVIII is a terrible game.
t, Salty IX fan
you didn't use meme arrows, that means you are the salty ff9 fan now.
go back to /b/ newbie
why don't you go back playing your beloved ff9 instead?
I honestly dont want them to
THey fricked up the remaster
8 has its special charme for me square never could recreate
the remaster is hidden in my library. what a fricking travesty.
Yep just gonna play the original maybe emulated but that's about it
I've accepted the original steam version with modded music for chocobo world. it's a shame the original is missing access to certain things in the west because of the pocketstation.
Never got to experience pocketstation. Anything wortwhhile it ads?
i think you can summon mogry and moomba, and get a bazillion of rare items without doing anything
it's a dumb chocobo minigame but you can transfer items to the game and get new GF's
>get new GF's
max said
Why is Rinoa such a bawd?
FF8 is kind of like FF16, where it's middle of the line and mediocre, which means every person who has an opinion on it either calls it the best or the worst in the franchise.
outisde of Ganker, I have hears more good things about 16 than bad things
self respect