What is stopping you from making your dream game?

What is stopping you from making your dream game?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    all of the knowledge and technical skill to make a game
    >use AI
    why? it's not like i'm going to be able to fix any of it's mistakes

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    lack of skills, lack of funds, lack of motivation

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    This anime fricking sucks. Ganker and Ganker lied to me again.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm afraid you were memed on, my friend.
      Not even the turboweebs on places like MAL who eat up garbage like Oshi no Ko like this one.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >My normalgay list
        >Turboweebs

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oshi no ko is bad ? I havent read it yet but I thought it had to be at least decent with all the attention it s getting. I have just started jujutsu kaisen and boy is it just as bad as I feared, I should have started reading it before buying a starting pack

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not him, but I didn't really care for it. I wouldn't say bad, just kind of dull. It was unprecedentedly super popular with normalgays that season though, so I guess overrated.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        mal is full of normalhomosexualBlack folk though

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >MAL
        >turboweebs
        lmfao
        MAL is full of the most ironic weeb homosexuals known to man.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oshi no ko is great, btw I like a lot the opening

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not really Pog of you

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      filtered
      it's not for ironic weebs

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Actually it is. An actual anime fan would recognize it as a mediocre workplace SoL and not even bother with it. Only 'ironic weebs' would post about it because muh ebin 16bit vidya games.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's aoty

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The real redpill: Lack of father figure

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      is that the title of your game?

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Making a video game sounds like a pain in the ass.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    well I need money a lot of money, my dream game would require a lot of people to actually pull off. until then I will continue to make shallow earth bound clones featuring fetish porn because that's what sells.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly lack of artistic ability because learning how shit works is easy peasy anyone in the fricking world can learn how to make a functional game
    But making custom assets that look good? Now thats an entire other problem that takes the most time or money to hire someone who's already good enough

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What is stopping you from making your dream game?
    I always keep saying tomorrow but that day never came and i dont know where or how to start it papus...

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What is stopping you from making your dream game?

    It's too much for a single person.

    >coding well
    >designing lvls and fun gameplay mechanics
    >making art
    >making music
    Shit like music is important, but I dont want to make music.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    No free time. My kid just turned 1, I started a new job this year that I need to keep learning new stuff for, and my wife is pregnant again. I have barely worked on it, but I at least got a few hundred lines of code down. If it isn't done by July, it's never happening.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was having kids quickly between intentional?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, no oopsy babies, my wife really wanted them. It's not that I didn't, but I didn't feel ready for the first one (not that you'll ever feel ready) and the second one won't uproot our life much at all since we're in a really comfy spot with work (I work from home and make enough to support the family so my wife is a stay at home mom). If it's a girl, we're done with kids. If it's a boy, we try again in a few years.
        Maybe I'll just take the RPGM pill and shit out something to be happy. Of the three games I want to make (1 Paper Mario/Shadow of the Colossus sort of game, 1 typical RPG, and 1 ARPG), the typical RPG sounds the easiest to make.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate artgays , so....

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why? Because you couldn't become one? Or are you one of those moronic /misc/Black folk that think all artists are rich leftist kids?

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    3D Animation. I'm currently trying to figure out a workflow for Daz>animate in blender with custom morphs for penetration etc. And then port that animation to unity with the blendshapes/shapekeys baked into the animation so it's 1:1 with what was animated in blender. I'm starting from nothing with no background so the Internet is my only source of information and my use case is so bespoke that I can only follow breadcrumbs. It's maddening. And yet my OCD compels me to figure it out no matter what.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't been able to make the design work as well as I want in 2D yet

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    the rothschild family

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    i dont even have enough motivation to play games how the frick ami gonna make one

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The crippling reality that I'd be spending years learning how to make one of my dream games just so either nobody will notice it, or it gets noticed just so some audience can get offended by something I didn't mean anything by, or worse yet, my ideas make it big and I get big time industry support, only for outsiders to come in and drastically change everything about the visions I've spent nearly half my life cultivating.

    Video games is not an industry for passion, it's just another media machine engineered to "tell messages to the people" that your passion is the firewood to in order keep the engine burning.

    The other side of the coin is that I want to make games with unique takes on mechanics that span many genres, but it's just not financially viable to sustain developing such varied yet niche games like this unless I gut some of them to make them more suitable for the current GaaS market.

    Every year that passes, observing this whole scene just makes me more and more glad I never actually got into the trade seriously enough to waste my life setting my dreams up to be destroyed like I've seen happen to every game and series that once inspired me.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who cares about what other people think of your game?
      >Make dream game
      >Play dream game
      It is as simple as that. I know that my dream game wouldn't sell a lot or even be that popular. But I'd be able to play it and it'd be fun.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is I don't have one dream game, it's at least twenty with a lot of them sharing a universe, and there's just no way I'm realistically fulfilling even half of that dream in today's climate. But the big fear really is just not wanting to see my ideas get taken over by others, or I get outed from my own series because I didn't want to change any of my main characters to be black or whatever the hell's going on behind the scenes these days.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I get outed from my own series because I didn't want to change any of my main characters to be black or whatever the hell's going on behind the scenes these days
          Indies only do that because they're the types of cucks that want to do that anyway. If you're that paranoid about it, don't attach your real name to your game.
          >it's at least twenty with a lot of them sharing a universe
          So make one and go from there. Series don't just drop 20 releases at once, they drop incrementally and build on each game.
          >not wanting to see my ideas get taken over by others
          Better they exist out there in the world than only in your head, honestly

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I could probably go through life without my dream game. Sure, it will be amazing, but having made it, it probably won't be as fun to play, and above all I'd love to give some people fun or maybe even have my dream game be good enough for other "dream games" to show up independently of me.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is I don't have one dream game, it's at least twenty with a lot of them sharing a universe, and there's just no way I'm realistically fulfilling even half of that dream in today's climate. But the big fear really is just not wanting to see my ideas get taken over by others, or I get outed from my own series because I didn't want to change any of my main characters to be black or whatever the hell's going on behind the scenes these days.

      LOL stupid overthinking moron Black person have fun dying with zero accomplishments

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The intended audience would fail to appreciate it.

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The 8 hour wagecuck workday.

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Caring and imaginating the audience

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Classes, and soon wage slaving.
    I can't focus on too much at once.

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I had spent just an hour each day from 4 years ago to today I would've made it by now. Or I would have improved enough to have the skills to be able to continue for 2 more years and make it perfect. That's all it would've taken. But no, I browsed this shithole for that hour daily instead.
    I wish I could stop doing this.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I am le addicted to imageboards and coom!!!
      You never really wanted to make a game.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        But isn't it true? Are you implying I'm not addicted to imageboards and cooming here? I don't get the intent of this post.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not a real addiction. It's not fentanyl, you come here out of your own free will. If you really wanted to do anything but being here, you would not reply to this post and would just close your tabs and open a python tutorial or whatever the frick.
          But you won't, because you don't want to.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know I'm in the wrong to come on here instead of making it. I'm not debating you on that. But how is it not an addiction? How is it different from fentanyl? It's less strong, sure, but it's the exact same process? Do you think people on fentanyl want to do fentanyl after the first few times? They just do it out of habit and because their brain is forcing them to.

            Again, I actually agree with the intent of the post and it is my fault. I'm just unsure what your definition of addiction is. It's literally the same thing.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bruh get the frick out of here. I'm yet to see someone sucking dick to keep browsing Ganker. Do you twist in mind numbing pain when you can't touch your wiener to anime breasts?
              >Muh brain is forcing me to procrastinate! My hecking brain is making me coom again!
              Is it so hard to just admit you are lazy and cowardly? Why you gotta call it an addiction? Because it takes the responsibility away? Because now it's not something you can change, but just your cursed heckin brain chemistry? You don't make games because you are lazy, not because demonic imageboards are controlling your thoughts.
              Have another (You) before you start tweaking.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Stop yelling at him

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Because now it's not something you can change
                Oh, I get it now. Are you a drug addict gatekeeping addiction? You know you can quit drugs too, right?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >crying about gatekeeping
                Go back you stupid Black person.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Failed pep talk. I guess you'll never make a video game now.

                No you stupid homosexual. Your definition of addiction is just moronic. What even is it?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                What does it matter? You will never make a video game (or anything at all) anyway.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm still not debating with you on whether I'm a lazy homosexual or not. I am. It's still an addiction, and that word does not mean what you think it means. A person with addiction is still at fault for it, but their brain is still forcing them to do it too. Drugs and cooming are very much directly comparable even though one is much worse. But they're both addictions.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Failed pep talk. I guess you'll never make a video game now.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Bro you can't be addicted to gambling, it isn't a drug
            You just blow in from stupidtown?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Damn you fricking got me good. Forgot about the entire gambling industry. I kneel.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Behavioral addictions are not real addictions and often a symptom of something else going in your life

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >...addictions are not real addictions....
                homie just tell him to get over it and grow up or some shit. Fricking mind numbing how moronic you're being about this.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>...addictions are not real addictions.
                Rafflessias are called flowers of death even if Theyre not flowers.

                Behavioral addictions cause the brain to release similar chemicals as drugs or sex, so yeah they're real addictions. Just keep gambling another $100, you're gonna feel great when you hit it big. Surely the next time you'll win, it'll feel sooooo good.

                Daydreaming also releases feel good chemicals

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                And yet when you daydream too much against your will, you're labeled a schizophrenic and it is a problem. Curious!

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Behavioral addictions cause the brain to release similar chemicals as drugs or sex, so yeah they're real addictions. Just keep gambling another $100, you're gonna feel great when you hit it big. Surely the next time you'll win, it'll feel sooooo good.

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are other languages other than common lisp if that's what's scaring you

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      sauce?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE18841CABEA24090

  23. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had to delay my latest milestone build yet again. My roadmap to version 1.0 keeps changing. I need to take a couple of days off from work and just stay home grinding the time-consuming shit (asset creation)

  24. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Art and music
    I will use free assets, AI or just commission it when I have money. The art game is too time consuming and difficult for me.
    >Writing
    Easy peasy.
    >Coding
    I'm getting there.
    I don't even have a dream game or dreams of fame and money, I just want to create something before I die. Henry Darter of vidya.

  25. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont want waste years working on a "dream" game to make 50 sales. I will take the porn game pill

  26. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    ADHD. I get a week into the project and then I physically can't continue.

  27. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"J"RPG with a Mega Man Legends aesthetic
    I'm an artgay and a musicgay, but I don't have any experience with 3D modelling. Or programming.

  28. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do, but it needs a lot of time.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look at him go!!

  29. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont know how to make games because thats not what we did in CS

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Self teach, you numbskull

  30. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >have lots of prototypes built for a few RPG types
    >no good at art
    >thought AI art would solve all my problems
    >turns out that AI can only do a small part of the actual work, and that you have to learn to draw no matter what
    life hurts

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I found the "NOOOO AI WILL REPLACE US!!!!" people to be so ignorant of AI art. As a prooooompter, the outputs you get almost always require some form of editing that AI is just another skill in the toolkit for artgays. The sooner they realize it and utilize it, the better for them.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't AI banned from Steam and other major plataforms anyway?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unless you can prove it's only been trained on your own data, yes.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unless you can prove it's only been trained on your own data, yes.

          It's not banned on steam at all, that's a huge lie made up by artgays as a form of cope.

          Steam only removed those shitty slide puzzle cash grabs where all you do is replace one image from one game to the next where people were dumping identical slide puzzle games with swapped out ai art.

          Steam came out and said they don't block ai it's that they block game listings that are essentially spam.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >have lots of prototypes built for a few RPG types
        >no good at art
        >thought AI art would solve all my problems
        >turns out that AI can only do a small part of the actual work, and that you have to learn to draw no matter what
        life hurts

        Sounds like you're not using AI correctly if you actually believe
        >you have to draw no matter what!
        I wanted Avery in a FF7 portrait based on Tetsuya Nomura's art for my game, and I created exactly that through AI.
        Stop using Bing and actually learn stable diffusion using LORAs and models instead. It's not hard at all, takes barely any time to set up.

        I can't learn to code to save my life

        Use visual coding like blueprints in Unreal 5 if you can't code, it's incredibly easy.

  31. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm dumb.

  32. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm lazy and I'm sure someone will make a decent Recettear sequel.. eventually.

  33. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being a lazy moron.

  34. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even have a dream game idea to begin with.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's sad. I have a couple and the only reason I can't do it is because I'm poor and dumb.

  35. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was thinking about doing a card game with some kooky characters. I got the characters and was going to start to learn how to program that kind of thing but am stuck on whether I will need VA's or not.
    I feel like, a large part of the appeal of that kind of thing would be good VA's right? That or really good sound design and music. I can't do the VA shit on my own and I was never good at making music despite being in band since 5th grade.
    So I dunno. I feel like making vidya takes a metric frickton of different skills. I need multiple people, which means I need money or some kind of pull. I have a lil (wee lil) bit of money. I dunno.

    I guess in both of those cases they can be done after the fact though right? I could make my silly card game with off-kilter characters and side-plots to go along with it all (kinda narrative) and then worry about sound design, music, and VA shit after the fact right?
    Yeah. Maybe. Thoughts?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literal nobody VAs will say anything you want for a few bucks on fiverr, but yeah that can come later

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        How does VA hiring work for lewd content?
        Will I pay extra? Will I have to look somewhere else?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just typed in "erotic" on the fiverr search bar and "in Voice Over" appeared. Clicked on it and the prices I'm seeing on the front page range from $5 to $30 (all women with almost all of them saying "nsfw friendly"). You can probably shop around, see demo reels, or ask for a sample and get the best you can get.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            > range from $5 to $30
            Man, thats cheap. Im gonna get my money stolen am I not.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              I've never used it, but I can only hope they have demo reels so you don't get memed. Best of luck, anon!

  36. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Time, mostly.
    I dont know how to use it efficiently.
    And its particularly painful since I did actually learn how to draw and code.

  37. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't know how to program at all whatsoever
    I can 3d model and do pixel art however, it hurts to use keyboards for a prolonged amount of time
    I have arthritis also life long depression and pic related

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Meth solves all of those problems. You're just stupid.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I've been thinking about that lately actually

  38. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't learn to code to save my life

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Theoretically. Could you not create another person to learn how to code for you? Or maybe, instead of learning how to code, you could just code instead. Heck, why not just code a program to learn how to code?
      There are solutions here anon, but you aren't going for them. Maybe it's a problem with your love life? When's the last time you shaved your balls?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      C# is very easy and there are plenty of tutorials available for beginners.

  39. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    coding is fricking boring
    Like learning a language but without any of the fun parts. Just making a gay prompt pop up on screen. moronic
    I would like to be a narrative designer, though. Some of my stuff has been published so I probably could get my foot in somewhere if game studios weren't so stingy with regards to hiring writers

  40. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I started on the journey to make my own game 10 years ago. I still have no game. Ask me anything.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      How many minutes of those 10 years have you spent actually developing your game?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        On average 2 hours per day every day.
        It takes 2 years of full time work to get decent at something, so attempting both drawing and programming while having a full-time job stretched the frick out of it. I even gave up on having a girlfriend or social life and still struggled with making time.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can you post what you have so far?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Since 2020

  41. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wrapping my head around the game engine way to do things. I'm used to programming freely, so putting things in terms of nodes and signals is intimidating the frick out of me from implementing the unique features of my game. Coding from scratch was suffering of a different kind so shit's fricked idk.

  42. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

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  43. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    i dont have a dream

  44. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of skill, I'm certainty trying though.

  45. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What is stopping you from making your dream game?
    lack of skill in certain areas. But that's not the main problem
    my current PC is old, sick, and tired, so I'm waiting for a new one to be able to run a sdk such as UE5 smoothly.
    i have a job. other things to do too. even other stuff I'm interested in.
    the inability to sort through, rank my own ideas and separate the concepts. too many of them. and which I want the most usually depends on the day of the week, lol.
    It will happen one day, anon. It will. That's my current copium.

  46. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is basically my ideal game, a combination of these three.
    >fly around space, interacting with aliens
    >dogfights in space
    >tactical combat when boarding ships, on space stations, on planets

  47. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm in a rut. I don't know what to do

  48. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    inabilty to code

  49. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I spend most of my free time streaming or working on my stream. I think I'm slowly reaching the point where I can work on and worry about it a bit less for the time being though and I'd love to work on games more.

  50. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The thoughts of the amount of work I have to do to make the game, each time I look a game engine I get overblown with the amount of shit I have at my disposition, and it makes me tired.
    Worst of all? Is not the first time I make games, I've done some games on SmileBASIC (a 3DS program that let you code), and my first serious project is a port of one of my old videogames to PC, but I just don't want my PC game to look like "My First Videogame tutorial" kind of bad.

  51. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    people only wanna play games with hot anime breasts and I want my game protag to be an edgelord masculine bro
    also why are so many indie game devs fricking trannies?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I made up a theoretical game with a "heh nothing personal.... Kid" edge lord protag, told my buddy about it, and he dubbed the game's name "Over the Edge". It'll never come to fruition, but man it'll be sick.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >also why are so many indie game devs fricking trannies?
      gamedev requires coding. Coding requires analytical skills and a lot of brain power to piece everything up (specially if you are solodev). Coding too much exhaust your brain. An exhausted brain is more suceptible to catch mental illnesses.

  52. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too much time spent playing games instead.
    Currently trying to be at least a little productive, getting back to drawing and getting frustrated at GIMP not doing what I want.

  53. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Tranime

  54. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    skills, time, money, motivation, lack of coherent thoughts, the shadow government, constantly discharging ley lines.

  55. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >coding makes me want to hurt myself
    >don't know shit about music
    >can't draw to save my life
    >if I was talented at these things, I still would be terrified by the time and effort needed to make a game as I wouldn't be able to make a quality game with a gun to my head
    >it would be a rip off of all my favorite games since I'd be scared of making something weird
    I'm an okay writer so I wrote a novel.

  56. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love this uguu b***h so much. I also like how they got the voice of uguu to be in the show.

  57. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. My dream game was a version of the hentai game True Love but where you could frick the teacher properly and not in that pathetic scene, so I downloaded some ugly as frick 3D models and made my own version of the game and I jerk offd to it several times.

  58. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I started making the tileset for my RPG Maker game...

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's a map, not a tileset. ffs.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a map to test the tileset I made. The tileset is horrible, however, I need to try touching up the textures to see if the patterns stop repeating themselves.
        The idea of making something like old DOS games like Ultima 4 didn't work either.

  59. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. The market doesn't deserve it, as consumers don't support perfect, let alone good games.
    2. It would take a big budget, big team, and a design philosophy so radically opposed to the industry norm in almost every conceivable way, so I could never convince a large enough group.
    3. Having to suck at least 50 dicks to have the privilege, and I'm no gay.

  60. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    shit at coding
    shit at modeling
    shit at animation
    shit at music
    shit at art
    would rather spend effort on material pursuits like improving my land/house

    If I ever win the lottery or AI gets super good I'll try to get it made, I have a 230 page design document written up so it just needs some good work put into it to git er done

  61. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing I just got a part time job to save up for a gaming development laptop get hype bros. Not sure if I'm going shill normally on Ganker or maybe just have ONE official shill thread and hand out keys.

  62. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    hardware and software limitations, there will be a day I can tell a computer what to do and make the perfect game, but the time when I can do that and run it on my machine is a long wait.

  63. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    unity

  64. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me its lack of energy, and general worry it would do me more harm then good, at the least writing fiction somewhat fills the hole a bit

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