>no retort of any consequence
typical. yiff in hell, bliz furry. looking forward to bliz going under so I can buy the legacy games to actually own from whoever swallows them up
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not really worth "retorting" to someone who doesnt know what DRM is
11 months ago
Anonymous
I totally understand the hate for Blizz now
11 months ago
Anonymous
>responding to someone who only read a few words of a post >responding 2 hours later
the only reason to play a diablo game is for the social element, you're basically just "playing" cookie clicker otherwise. how vapid and boring do you have to be to play garbage like this for the gameplay.
I'm actually getting to the point where I'm tired of hearing about Diablo and especially Diablo 4. I'm tired of watching videos about it or hearing news. There's no reason to play the Season. There's literally no reason. You start over, no Leaderboard, no difference, nothing. I fricking hate Blizzard. What a fricking insult and an embarrassment
Why do the ads for this have boss b***h music with pseudo rap drum machines that sounds like someone reeling a fishing pole? It's such a weird anachronism, where's the epic music and/or heavy metal? Is the ship of Theseus that is nublizzard really comprised entirely of trannies and homosexuals?
This game literally makes me want to kill myself. I have completely lost faith in humanity, and maybe that was the point
>well the game is like hell on earth >so let's make it look awful so players really hate
good one
remember how vibrant d1 and d2 were? grim and dark yes but so vibrant, I actually wanted to be there
I probably had the most fun playing Median XL over classic/D2R. I really enjoyed the difficult endgame content. Though tbh I can't find a reason to play ARPGs beyond beating them once unless they have good challenging endgame to justify farming. I didn't play the others so I won't comment.
I don't want to play ARPGs anymore. That's how bad it is. In fact I'm closing this thread now. More and more, the Diablo threads will die and that's a good thing
classic lod is best. anything that rebalances the game is shit.
People who want the game re balanced are thoseweirdos who run mephisto 10k times and they want the game rebalanced so every class can be broken like a sorc or hammer pally by spamming 1 ability to kill everything on the screen.
PD2 probably has the best balance, qol, graphics (lol), and largest community/economy with a decent trade site now. Sounds like shilling but idk bro I really like the mod I think they do great.
MXL has a very fun progression but kinda plays like shit with needing d2stats open and the configs feeling like shit unless they changed that. Also it always seemed like literally only 10 people were playing at a time which idk isn’t enjoyable.
I haven’t followed PoD but my friends who played just prefer pd2.
Otherwise just play d2r if you want the normal experience and aren’t a contrarian against anything that’s new.
MXL has god tier progression, it feels really damn good to go from struggling against a good boss fight, to finally getting a kill, to coming back once stronger to farm it for a trophy.
It seems like they're working on making the stat screen include all the info you want/need from d2stats, but I don't think the item filter features are planned or at least in yet, though last I played was a couple seasons ago.
First week of a season usually has a lot of activity, but drops off heavily after week 2 because most people that play it are ultraspergs and have played it for a decade.
Overall I think MedianXL is one of the best ARPG experiences, it's really impressive what they've done with such an old engine and it keeps getting better. I know it's hella unrealistic and I doubt the devs would even want the burden and responsibility but frick I wish they would get funding and stuff to make their own paid game out of it.
diablo I is a pretty good game, very straightforward, you go down a dungeon, get to hell and kill diablo. solid gameplay, overall very atmospheric with some real nice visuals and music
diablo II retains the excellent aesthetics but its also a really boring grindfest with shittier level design which only really gets good at the very last act
i havent played the rest
I really am just incredibly angry right now but I’m slightly getting over it. It’s the kind of angry where you get a headache and want to punch Blizzard in the face for rolling out this slop. What a fricking disgrace. Blizzard is completely out of touch.
List the number of things that need fixing in Diablo 4, and even Asmon did a list. You need to change literally everything. From level scaling, to items, to stash tabs, to build variety, to everything else. The game is an undeniable trainwreck
Why aren't there any games that are CRPGs with ARPG gameplay? That's honestly what I expected of the genre when I first tried it. My disappointment was immeasurable.
Man it's sad how fricking shitty Diablo has gotten. 3, Immortal, and now 4 are all so shallow and boring, greedy predatory monetization at every turn. PoE 2 when?
Best way to enjoy D2. >Original D2+LoD on bnet(or private host for less lag) >Get friends together for ladder reset >Play hardcore >No trading with outsiders, only use them for public exp games >Bonus for non-standard builds/team comps >Drag each other to hell baals/ubers(if competent) >Enjoy the process of leveling and gearing together >Destroy the illegitimate state of Israel >Get bored with the gameplay loop and come back next ladder reset
D2R is my pick despite the class character redesigns being absolute trash... but I'm thankful that we didn't get a repeat of warcraft 3 remastered.
i don't think it's wise to buy diablo 4 i think it's better to wait for it to go on sale. too many good reviews, too much advertising it doesn't make for a good game. that's for us to decide.
Diablo 4 is such a bad game that I never want to play an ARPG again. I start one up and hate it. What a waste of time. It's like Blizzard purposely designed it to make people hate ARPGs. They made it so soulless and designed to just waste your time that it exposes the worst parts of ARPGs, even the classic Diablo 2
>They made it so soulless and designed to just waste your time that it exposes the worst parts of ARPGs, even the classic Diablo 2
elaborate??? i haven't played it.
It starts with the stats. 'Souless' would not describe it fully. It steals something from you; you'll never become immersed in an ARPG ever again after perusing Diablo 4's stats.
They made them so simple, like "damage to injured enemies" so that you do more damage to enemies at low health. They made "vulnerable" so you do damage to whatever that debuff is supposed to be. They made all the stats dumbed down and random, and they don't even give you a proper indicator of your character's overall dps.
not enough plus light radius for you, anon? or stamina increase?
It's hard to describe but he's right. The items are garbage because of garbage stat affixes on items. They're so built to be non-helpful to your character in any sizeable way. So you'll just look at the Armor number and DPS number and call it a day, which is why it has the little green number by them. Armor is better than anything in the game and so is DPS. Therefore, for matters of speed and efficiency, you shouldn't even worry about picking up lots of yellow items to look through them and waste your time.
i dunno anon i found this pretty early on into nightmare and im still using it at 60 and nothing has even come close to it
it was a rando yellow i just recently slapped a legendary modifier on it
it easily beats out the unique scythe that keeps dropping to, the one with slow on shadow damage. can't remember the name of it but the damage difference is vast.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that happens once you get to Nightmare. It seems that almost as soon as you get into Nightmare and start looking around, you'll find one really high DPS yellow and never find another one ever again, like it's scripted.
I really fricking loved Median XL when I played it 2-3 years ago but I played at the ass end of ladder and couldn't trade jack shit online and I'm pretty sure offline had no loot goblins or something. Is the state of the mod pretty decent right now? Is SSF offline viable to push all content? There was so much endgame shit to enjoy on a single character, is there even anything like that these days? It's been a while since I played an ARPG and D4 looks like fricking shit. Is D3 endgame any good?
Path of Diablo
The one that allows you to play ladder on bt.net
before lod when you could stack fcr and spam frozen orbs. that was peak
D2R
>forced DRM even on console
Lol no, eat shit blizzard
So you dont use steam?
I do, and it doesn't have DRM on every game, and regardless I trust them more than bliz. I don't give my money to useless frickwits.
>I do
>forced DRM
lol eat shit
>no retort of any consequence
typical. yiff in hell, bliz furry. looking forward to bliz going under so I can buy the legacy games to actually own from whoever swallows them up
Not really worth "retorting" to someone who doesnt know what DRM is
I totally understand the hate for Blizz now
>responding to someone who only read a few words of a post
>responding 2 hours later
pirate it, homosexual
the only reason to play a diablo game is for the social element, you're basically just "playing" cookie clicker otherwise. how vapid and boring do you have to be to play garbage like this for the gameplay.
uuuuuuuuuuuh
>muh social element
>muh cookie clicker
You're not fooling anyone anon. You just wanted to post feet and get (you)s.
>people enjoying something i don't
>vapid and boring
says the vapid and boring foot gay
foot gay opinions are disregarded
>check out project diablo 2
>still has immunities
Into the trash it goes
>tfw nobody remembers eastern sun mod
Eastern Sunrise is the only one worth playing
Is that the one where they removed immunities on hell? It never played quite right to me, that said I've still leveled some characters past level 100.
Nah. It's the one with moonrunes and Act Nthuku.
really digging the Uninstall Edition
Don't play Diablo. Don't play anything Blizzard.
They fricked up big time with this Diablo 4 and I'm not soon to make them forget it
D2r is literally censored troony shit.
Why is D2 without LoD unlisted?
because lod lests you make a classic character anyway
I'm actually getting to the point where I'm tired of hearing about Diablo and especially Diablo 4. I'm tired of watching videos about it or hearing news. There's no reason to play the Season. There's literally no reason. You start over, no Leaderboard, no difference, nothing. I fricking hate Blizzard. What a fricking insult and an embarrassment
the seasons do have leaderboards on D2. also economy is reset.
just keep playing single player you autist.
Classic LoD reverted to an older patch.
This is like literally the worst ARPG on the market and the biggest waste of time I have ever played
This game literally makes me want to kill myself. I have completely lost faith in humanity, and maybe that was the point
Why do the ads for this have boss b***h music with pseudo rap drum machines that sounds like someone reeling a fishing pole? It's such a weird anachronism, where's the epic music and/or heavy metal? Is the ship of Theseus that is nublizzard really comprised entirely of trannies and homosexuals?
Nignogs are the target market and nignog sympathisers
>well the game is like hell on earth
>so let's make it look awful so players really hate
good one
remember how vibrant d1 and d2 were? grim and dark yes but so vibrant, I actually wanted to be there
>moronic low iq d2 Black folk filtered by the best diablo ever made
many such cases
LoD
I probably had the most fun playing Median XL over classic/D2R. I really enjoyed the difficult endgame content. Though tbh I can't find a reason to play ARPGs beyond beating them once unless they have good challenging endgame to justify farming. I didn't play the others so I won't comment.
I am the tastemaker. You all have bottom of the barrel taste.
>immortal over literally anything
You can read. Congrats on graduating elementary.
You gonna defend the position of it or not?
How about you slob on my knob.
samegay
Your mom.
this makes me think that maybe D4 is actually good. I havent really played it so idk, i cant trust Ganker.
I don't want to play ARPGs anymore. That's how bad it is. In fact I'm closing this thread now. More and more, the Diablo threads will die and that's a good thing
This ranking is bait.
classic lod is best. anything that rebalances the game is shit.
People who want the game re balanced are thoseweirdos who run mephisto 10k times and they want the game rebalanced so every class can be broken like a sorc or hammer pally by spamming 1 ability to kill everything on the screen.
This, I understand wanting a legit broken talent re-tooled but the imbalance is where the soul is
resurgence was pretty dope. way better than pod pd2 and mxl. smaller and older user base ('community') too
Reign of Terror.
PD2 probably has the best balance, qol, graphics (lol), and largest community/economy with a decent trade site now. Sounds like shilling but idk bro I really like the mod I think they do great.
MXL has a very fun progression but kinda plays like shit with needing d2stats open and the configs feeling like shit unless they changed that. Also it always seemed like literally only 10 people were playing at a time which idk isn’t enjoyable.
I haven’t followed PoD but my friends who played just prefer pd2.
Otherwise just play d2r if you want the normal experience and aren’t a contrarian against anything that’s new.
MXL has god tier progression, it feels really damn good to go from struggling against a good boss fight, to finally getting a kill, to coming back once stronger to farm it for a trophy.
It seems like they're working on making the stat screen include all the info you want/need from d2stats, but I don't think the item filter features are planned or at least in yet, though last I played was a couple seasons ago.
First week of a season usually has a lot of activity, but drops off heavily after week 2 because most people that play it are ultraspergs and have played it for a decade.
Overall I think MedianXL is one of the best ARPG experiences, it's really impressive what they've done with such an old engine and it keeps getting better. I know it's hella unrealistic and I doubt the devs would even want the burden and responsibility but frick I wish they would get funding and stuff to make their own paid game out of it.
R and it's not remotely close
Median XL Hardcore. the boss fights are actually fun
I've never played any Diablo game. Sell them to me now.
Go watch a youtube review.
nah, play grim dawn
>noooo you must play the offbrand dollar store version instead
This
see
Grim Dawn is the best ARPG on the market, with a full complete Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 campaign mod.
>with a full complete Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 campaign mod.
Ahhh why yes fine sira, i'll take two on negative soul plus please.
>newbiebabble
Thanks for bringing attention to my post about Grim Dawn. 🙂
If you was an any kind of oldgay you woulda posted an anime girl. Kiss yourself reddit0r.
>if you was an any
Are you a Black person and did you have a stroke?
illiteracy will prevail.
a pretty good Nirvana demo tape.
diablo I is a pretty good game, very straightforward, you go down a dungeon, get to hell and kill diablo. solid gameplay, overall very atmospheric with some real nice visuals and music
diablo II retains the excellent aesthetics but its also a really boring grindfest with shittier level design which only really gets good at the very last act
i havent played the rest
they invented the ARPG genre. see where it all began. they're highly regarded games for a reason
median xl and its not even fricking close
I really am just incredibly angry right now but I’m slightly getting over it. It’s the kind of angry where you get a headache and want to punch Blizzard in the face for rolling out this slop. What a fricking disgrace. Blizzard is completely out of touch.
List the number of things that need fixing in Diablo 4, and even Asmon did a list. You need to change literally everything. From level scaling, to items, to stash tabs, to build variety, to everything else. The game is an undeniable trainwreck
Why aren't there any games that are CRPGs with ARPG gameplay? That's honestly what I expected of the genre when I first tried it. My disappointment was immeasurable.
Grim Dawn.
You can thank me later.
Man it's sad how fricking shitty Diablo has gotten. 3, Immortal, and now 4 are all so shallow and boring, greedy predatory monetization at every turn. PoE 2 when?
Best way to enjoy D2.
>Original D2+LoD on bnet(or private host for less lag)
>Get friends together for ladder reset
>Play hardcore
>No trading with outsiders, only use them for public exp games
>Bonus for non-standard builds/team comps
>Drag each other to hell baals/ubers(if competent)
>Enjoy the process of leveling and gearing together
>Destroy the illegitimate state of Israel
>Get bored with the gameplay loop and come back next ladder reset
D2R is my pick despite the class character redesigns being absolute trash... but I'm thankful that we didn't get a repeat of warcraft 3 remastered.
i don't think it's wise to buy diablo 4 i think it's better to wait for it to go on sale. too many good reviews, too much advertising it doesn't make for a good game. that's for us to decide.
Diablo 4 is such a bad game that I never want to play an ARPG again. I start one up and hate it. What a waste of time. It's like Blizzard purposely designed it to make people hate ARPGs. They made it so soulless and designed to just waste your time that it exposes the worst parts of ARPGs, even the classic Diablo 2
>They made it so soulless and designed to just waste your time that it exposes the worst parts of ARPGs, even the classic Diablo 2
elaborate??? i haven't played it.
It starts with the stats. 'Souless' would not describe it fully. It steals something from you; you'll never become immersed in an ARPG ever again after perusing Diablo 4's stats.
not enough plus light radius for you, anon? or stamina increase?
They made them so simple, like "damage to injured enemies" so that you do more damage to enemies at low health. They made "vulnerable" so you do damage to whatever that debuff is supposed to be. They made all the stats dumbed down and random, and they don't even give you a proper indicator of your character's overall dps.
It's hard to describe but he's right. The items are garbage because of garbage stat affixes on items. They're so built to be non-helpful to your character in any sizeable way. So you'll just look at the Armor number and DPS number and call it a day, which is why it has the little green number by them. Armor is better than anything in the game and so is DPS. Therefore, for matters of speed and efficiency, you shouldn't even worry about picking up lots of yellow items to look through them and waste your time.
i dunno anon i found this pretty early on into nightmare and im still using it at 60 and nothing has even come close to it
it was a rando yellow i just recently slapped a legendary modifier on it
it easily beats out the unique scythe that keeps dropping to, the one with slow on shadow damage. can't remember the name of it but the damage difference is vast.
Yeah, that happens once you get to Nightmare. It seems that almost as soon as you get into Nightmare and start looking around, you'll find one really high DPS yellow and never find another one ever again, like it's scripted.
pc,and you're moronic ro I asking
For me, it's D2scrabble.
I play a couple weeks of Median XL every update. I enjoy it a lot, it's definately not anything like Diablo though.
I really fricking loved Median XL when I played it 2-3 years ago but I played at the ass end of ladder and couldn't trade jack shit online and I'm pretty sure offline had no loot goblins or something. Is the state of the mod pretty decent right now? Is SSF offline viable to push all content? There was so much endgame shit to enjoy on a single character, is there even anything like that these days? It's been a while since I played an ARPG and D4 looks like fricking shit. Is D3 endgame any good?
PlugY.
That's it.
Accidentally my whole PlugY saves during reinstall.
Lost years of characters and MF progress.
I start over and still enjoy it just as much
Median XL was pretty great a few years ago, but every since they cracked/remade the engine it's been going downhill in quality.
>ugly new UI
>ugly new skill trees
>changed so much shit it's not even related to Diablo 2 anymore
idk what happened
>man with shitty dream puts together what he can muster
>it's good
>what he can muster creeps towards the form he dreamed of
>it's shitty
median xl and its not even a competitiomn
Median XL was my favorite until they cut a lot of the content out of it
I've tried them all, but d2r is my favorite
gorgeous game that looks better than even d4 -- and I like the small gameplay changes
D2R with Project D2 maps system when
Seriously, I am not liking this game. I hate almost everything about it and I understand why people hate Blizzard