what is the best town in oblivion and why is it cheydinhal? bravil is a close second with leyawiin at 3rd place
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what is the best town in oblivion and why is it cheydinhal? bravil is a close second with leyawiin at 3rd place
Every town in this game feels identical
At least they're pretty much all better than skyrim's towns/cities. holy shit lol
Simple not true is it
ah yes. here it is. the iconic city of rorikstead.
>burned down during the oblivion crisis
>"yo why so small tho?
the bustling metropolis of falkreath
>towns in the imperial province are richer and bigger than in some backwater.
Imagine my shock
i am implying falkreath is a small shithole looking village you stupid frick
Yes and im saying that shouldnt be surprising you mong
and it has been like what, 200 years or so?
200 years isn't that long.
Yes, it was destroyed by the oblivion crisis. Oblivion literally says this.
>couldn't rebuild after 200 years
They are, slowly. However both the great war and the empire are draining wealth away from skyrim so nobody has the capability to progress faster.
My home town is the same size it's been since it's founding over 200 years ago.
Nords don't give a shit about maintaining stuff they'd rather raise armies or live in the wild.
Disingenuous
towns like riverwood and rorikstead were the only towns with SOVL in skyrim
They're literally smaller than skyrim's
And still much better, baste
Yeah thank god
The oblivion crisis literally laid waste to skyrim, that's why everything is in ruins, Falkreath isn't a city anymore, whiterun's walls are in such disrepair and all the towns from arena don't exist anymore. You'd know this if you paid attention to the generic conversations in oblivion.
>it's okay that the towns are bad and boring because the LORE
They can be lazy and fans will eat it up just because it's written down to justify it being bad
>the lore is NOT okay when it's accurate in THIS way!
Cope, the oblivion crisis destroyed everything and skyrim's theme is about decline not rebuilding.
>my great great great grandpas house was destroyed in a fire 200 years ago
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN REBUILD IT??? NOOOO I'LL LIVE IN A RUIN!!!!
>why yes, Narfi will live in his family's run down home.
What bothers me to this day... where did Narfi get human meat. And who is the person that hires you to kill Narfi.
The person who killed his sister AND/OR the owner of the inn who wants to just get rid of him now that his sister "vanished"
The villagers probably just got sick of him being around
That was 200 years ago.
Bethesda has no concept of time, just look at Fallout and how people live together with filth and skeletons still as if the nukes dropped yesterday
200 years isn't that long of time and medieval societies didn't make huge jumps in progress, it's not like they have access to modern technology like us.
yeah man its not like they like in a world with literal magic and also are hugely connected to the outside provinces and regions of tamriel with all its information and technology.
Maybe during the Septim dynasty but the current vestigial empire is anything but. In fact it looks like they're just starting to enter a dark age keeping in line with the theme of decline and decay.
>trusting magic users after the oblivion crisis and the great collapse of winterhold
Get a load of this milk drinker.
you are a historylet
never speak again until you are wiser
How long did it take for post-rome england to reach a level of sophistication comparable to rome?
it still hasn't happened
You do know it's entirely possible to not progress and just remain stagnant, or possibly revert for hundreds of years right?
The point is about the time since the Oblivion Crisis meaning it's not an excuse. If you're going to then wiggle around saying "well it can be a stagnat dump just because" you might as well say nothing at all.
>you do know bla bla bla right?
homosexual phrasing
Yes it is, it literally happened to the roman empire.
The Oblivion Crisis literally happened?
Historians like to call it "the great migration"
Yeah it was obvious they were designed from a template.
Idiot
Bruma
worst town
Thats where men are women.
I think 90% of Ganker users are too young by now to get this reference.
20 year old zoomer, I get the reference and I miss laughing my ass off at manslayer
Oblivion had great comfy towns. Morrowind as well. Is there mods for Morrowind to have npcs move around according to schedules?
I prefer Skingrad
Skingrand town proper is alright. The castle...eh
Based. Felt like a proper medieval city even though I know it was all supposed to look Roman anyways.
Whats the one by the sea? That was pretty comfy. Dont remember doing much there though
Anvil was pretty great. The quests were fun and it even had a cozy mansion with its own mini quest.
Anvil? Technically Leyawiin is also by the sea but there's no port in town.
not so much a city swimmer as i am a parkour ninja autist
I meant the NPC lol
oh yeah he's cool though i was a bit disappointed to find not even a skeleton or a chest in bravil's creek when i took a dive
On my first playthrough, when I became a vampire, I was looking for easy access to blood and just happend to be in Bravil. So I broke into her house, she had the weakest lock, and from then on it became kind of a habit. Whenever my character got thirsty I'd travel to bravil and suck some city-swimmer.
Basically did that the whole playthrough until she stole some cheese and got killed by the guards for it kek, I was strangely melancholic after that
Oh and she also has some funny lines
hot stinky sex with city swimmer
Stinky indeed
imagine swimming in the cloaca of a canal in the absolute shithole of bravil all day
Anvil if I recall correctly
>bravil
another city-swimmer enjoyer I see
I suspect those are most people's 3 least favourite towns. Cheydinhal and the supposed Morrowind influences aren't really felt is rather flat and generic, Bravil is a slum. Leywaiin is a little more interesting what with the constant rain and surrounding swamps.
I liked Anvil for the coastal setting and the architectural style.. It felt very clean and open. I like Skingrad for the layout with the bridges and castle, the tall buildings, the vineyards around the city, the mystery in it. The first time I went there I was low-level, low on health and being pursued by wolves and I saw the city off in the distance and just rode there to escape. I arrived at night and wandered through the streets when I was approached by Glarthir. I had no idea who he was and thought maybe he was with the Thieves' Guild I'd heard so much about...
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Why not just tgm
For me, it's Erothin
I gave it a lot of consideration but I have arrived at the conclusion that Bruma is the worst one. Because the only thing I remember about it is the DB quest where you kill the old man with a bodyguard and that their mages guild gets fricked(and burns forever)
It's just kind of boring and I usually like the designated snow location the most, but not here
>their mages guild gets fricked(and burns forever)
I wish they had more of these world altering events.
> I usually like the designated snow location the most, but not here
wow he's just like me. I usually prefer snow and mountains to sea and sun, but I like Anvil a lot more than Bruma.
Anvil is real nice, it looks fantastic when the sun sets. Plus you have cool locations like the ghost house you can buy and the lighthouse
>S
Chorrol
>A
Bruma, Skingrad
>B
Kvatch (rip in peperoni), Leyawiin
>C
Cheydinhal
>D
Anvil
>F
Bravil
>F
>Bravil
booo
You've clearly been playing with mods for far too long. Vanilla Skingrad is S-tier, while Chorrol has always been super generic and forgettable, idk why it is always so overrated.
>Skingrad
Yeah that city is nice too.
It has the best castle, flag and colors for sure.
Everytime I see Oblivion mentioned I install it, play for 10 minutes and then drop it. Maybe I should try adding mods, does Oblivion have good mods?
Anvil, home.
I liked Leyawiin even though they ruined it compared to the concept art. It made no sense not to have a harbor at this location. Instead it's partially flooded? But I liked it anyway somehow.
Leyawiin is meant to straddle the entrance to the Niben Bay, with a great water canal passing through it and bridges spanning the canal for the city's traffic.
Bethesda didn't even attempt to depict this and instead gave Bravil the canal...
Skyrim's towns are way too small but I don't want realistic-sized cities either. Oblivion's cities still feel more alive because of the omnipresent Radiant AI routines.
Best house in the cities? Arborwatch is the thinking man's choice
Anvil for the cool necromancer basement
or Skingrad because it's a huge mansion
Can you get back into the basement after the quest?
Of course
I filled mine with human hearts and other edgy shit
>has been around since the early second era and the imperial simulacrum
>was abandoned sometime after and refounded in the 4th era by lumberjacks
Which mod lists am i supposed to use in 2023 for oblivion and skyrim? I don't want shitty moron shit like "dark souls" combat or adhd animation shit that sways my screen all over the place as if i'm a bawd being ravaged by seamen on a stomry boat, just a really pretty vanilla+ install i guess
look for vanilla+ modlists
Here's one for Skyrim: https://dragonbornsfate.moddinglinked.com/intro.html
thanks
>vortex
no
but thanks anyway,i appreciate you trying
I mean you can also try stuff like OOO
Have you tried google?
https://next.nexusmods.com/oblivion/collections
>Skingrad
ruled by a vampire, schizo elf, haunted house, weird layout
>Anvil
schizo in the lighthouse, haunted house, pretty nice all in all
>Bravil
skooma shithole, corrupt, murder guild HQ
>Cheydinhal
ruled by elves, infiltrated by the orc mafia
>Chorrol
weird schizo village nearby
>Bruma
nobody cares about this shithole
>Leyawiin
beastmen central, swampy shithole
Oblivion is both the prettiest and the ugliest game in existence and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
You are so correct Pepe the Frog
is there a mod that makes the npcs not look like misshapen potatoheads and stops the dark elves from looking baked as frick
For me, it's Anvil. Benirus Manor was the only house I ever bought in the game as a kid because I was poor as frick all the time so I couldn't afford the other ones, so I spent a lot of time there.
I had a character get softlocked from ever entering Benirus Manor again after I used the arrow-dupe trick to litter the floors with hundreds of different coloured gems. I thought it would look cool, but the 360 hated me for it
>I was poor as frick all the time so I couldn't afford the other one
I just used Weynon Priory on most characters. The chest Jauffre unlocks stores your gear safely, you can sleep there, it's relatively central.
from the person in the office of commerce in the market district
Weynon Priory? Isn't that near the city of Chorrol?
Near the city of Chorrol.
>zoomies don't know this pure SOUL
flyyyyyying, flyyyying in the skyyyyy, cliffracer flyyyyyyyy
One of my first open world RPG's was Oblivion, and when I first heard the cliff racer song, I went back and played Morrowind. I just wish they would stop dumbing down the series so much, I can't even play Skyrim for more than a few minutes without getting bored.
>One of my first open world RPG's was Oblivion
Same, played it on my brother's 360 in the cold as frick basement for hours on end. It really enhanced the feel and magic of it
At the start he didn't have ahrd drive for his xbox either, so we had to restart every time for a while, but was still amazing
Frick, now I want to replay it, but I've got to finish my latest run in Morrowind. I need to find a good modlist for Wabbajack or something to make it more varied this time around.
Yeah..
I only found out you could buy a house in the Waterfront from every Oblivion retrospective video mentioning that they used it as their player house. idk who to even talk to in order to buy it as I've never encountered the option in my over 1000 hours of playtime.
>t. dungeon plunderer who immediately goes to store to sell loot loop enjoyer
Nah I used the mansion in Anvil as my house. I wouldn't even want to buy a rundown shack.
>he doesn't want to larp as a crackhead who can punch mehrunes dagon to death
>stores his rare loot in a wooden shack in the poorest section of the Imperial City where the THIEVES GUILD makes its home
Doesn't sound like you were roleplaying at all, bro...
im literally the GAY wolf, homie its against guild rules to steal from fellow members anyway
I can't choose. Not because they're all good, but because beyond the architecture, the cities have zero identity. I guess Skingrad, it had wine.
>zero identity
what do you mean? Cheydinhal has that sick ass bridge with the drunk on it
Bruma has snow
and
Summer seaside town
TES VI when? I had high hopes for Starfield but it didn't fill the hole in my heart.
why was oblivion so fricking comfy and why has nothing even come close to matching it?
also anvil is best city idk what you special needs anons are talking about bringing up bravil.
oblivion is a screenshot game. you find a place where no NPCs are visible and there's no distant land + speedtree garbage in sight and you pretend the whole game looks like that
It was the first Elder Scrolls ggame you played
authentic 2007 oblivion screenshot crusty
>why was oblivion so fricking comfy
The same reasons the generation after me thinks Skyrim is comfy
The soul
The music was peak kino.
its the UI, that screen shot would be half as comfy without the UI
I think the key part was how many quests didn't involve a whole lot of combat and most cities had multiple self contained questlines that took place exclusively in the city limits. Skyrim's quests all forced you into one of 2 different prefab dungeons to genocide bandits/drauger/dwarves with the only creative bits being daedra quests but Oblivion had lots of neat stuff like entering peoples dreams, getting tricked into jumping down a well with a cursed ring, tracking a wild cougar or spying on people for the local schizo.
>I think the key part was how many quests didn't involve a whole lot of combat and most cities had multiple self contained questlines that took place exclusively in the city limits
what game did you play?
>Skyrim's quests all forced you into one of 2 different prefab dungeons to genocide bandits/drauger/dwarves
Oblivion LOVES sending you to shitty ass dungeons. I don't know what game you played. The Oblivion gates are still the lowest point of modern TES.
>entering peoples dreams
Which resulted in a bunch of poorly designed minigames (the underwater one was okay)
>getting tricked into jumping down a well with a cursed ring
The flimsiest quest writing in the entire game. The guy sends new members to their deaths literally right behind the mages guild and no one even looks for the body there despite them fricking saying the water tastes off. Also the quest is 10% gameplay and 90% listening to shitty dialogue.
>tracking a wild cougar
You followed an NPC for 2 minutes as he led you straight to where the cougars were. You didn't track shit. You are a moron who gets told "YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING AWESOME" by a modern game and you just believe it. It's like watching a cutscene in Uncharted and thinking "woah... this game is intense"
>spying on people for the local schizo
This one is good one time and then replaying it sucks because you just end up waiting 24 hours behind the church to click a dialogue option and watch something happen. I wouldn't be surprised if this one was just developed the way it was for marketing.
I just wish the ground textures weren't so weird looking from far away
ES won't be the same without Jeremy SOULe
should i play oblivion on a crt monitor? will it enhance the experience?
How did they make a game with 1000 characters and manage to not make a single one of them good?
I really like this image
>How did they make a game with 1000 characters and manage to not make a single one of them good?
"Characters" will always be the weaker part of Elder Scrolls games as long as your character is such a blank slate. You need something there for the npc to interact with, otherwise the npc itself is made blander for adopting any kind of strong attitude, rivalry, attachment etc to what is just a compulsively quest-solving peripatetic cipher. The most memorable ES characters are ones like Vivec or Dagoth Ur, who are heavily lore-depedent and who have personal interest in you via actually defined parts of your character i.e your role as reincarnation of their old friiend Nerevar. Other characters who stand out are ones like Glarthir, who are entirely embedded in a quest and who specifically interact with you because you are an unknown outsider.
What's it from?
Lucien Lachance was cool
he was carried by his emperor palpatine voice. the actual character aspect to him was as shallow as anyone else.
getting nostalgic about oblivion's graphics remind me of this video
>why is it cheydinhal?
Because my Dark Brotherhood homies chill there.
Hail Sithis!
you killed them all, remember? all because lucien lachance was a brainlet
>you killed them all, remember?
I felt like the fricking guy in Shutter Island just now.
>Anon remember the qt nord girl who wanted to be the leader of the cheydinhal chapter one day? you killed her
>remember the weird vampire guy who offered to turn you into a vampire but was otherwise a cool dude? you killed him too
>you killed them all, anon
Based Cheydinhal enjoyer, Anvil is my second favorite,
Oblivion just doesn't have that 'edge' that Skyrim has
They're all shit and basically interchangeable outside the capital and even then that's just arbitrarily large.
remember that people liking the dark brotherhood is what killed this series. they realized lore literally did not matter and people just wanted generic "epic" shit like that twist where you wipe everyone out despite it making no sense. the db's writer in oblivion was promoted to lead writer for FO3 and he's been killing bethesda ever since.
>Everybody saying the cities are the same
>Me literally loving Oblivion due to all the cities having different architecture, layout and visibly different environment depending on the region and it's geography.
Did we play the same game? Skingrad, Anvil, Bruma, Cheydinhal, Bravil. They're nothing alike. I can say that Leyawiin and Bravil are somewhat similar only because they are so close so they both have that swampy earth but they have different architecture. Chorrol and Cheydinal are pretty similar too if I recall correctly but I'm sure if I actually boot up the game again and look around I'll see that they are far more different than I remember.
>they're nothing alike
>no, I won't say how they're not beyond some vague bullshit
>no, I won't prove this with images either
Obliviontards, everyone.
>Grass is green
>"Source? Source? Spoonfeed me images I'm a baby"
Skingrad is almost metropolitan with stone masonry and cobbled streets and stone bridges. Bravil is a poor swampy shithole with murky wooden housing. That should be a clear enough comparison for morons like you. I won't spoonfeed you any further, you sad, fat, pathetic mouthbreather.
Prove it you god damn moron. Post images and explain how they're different.
They have next to no culture or identity.
>but they have different architecture
It's a farce to trick morons into thinking they're different.
Anvil, Skingrad and the Imperial City are the only ones which were immediately identifiable to me. The others took a few seconds based on city and water layout
Can I just say that I never saw Telvanni towers as mushrooms? To me they look like weird roots with weird tumors in the end.
I mean it's not just the cities, literally every location in Oblivion looks identical
>inb4 "uhh actually the grass is a different color in this part of the map"
If any Obliviongays want some new Cyrodiilic city kino, try out Tamriel Rebuilt for Morrowind and visit Old Ebonheart
Why is it so barren
>They have next to no culture or identity.
>>but they have different architecture
>It's a farce to trick morons into thinking they're different.
>Muh mushroom buildings and wacky trees have SOVL tho
Yes, original creations have more soul than copy pasted medieval architecture. Sorry about your wojak brain parasite btw.
>Yes, original creations have more soul than copy pasted medieval architecture. Sorry about your wojak brain parasite btw.
>Timeless bad, original good!
Chorrol, I love the stone walls of the homes, the architecture, how cozy it looks, the quests and that big ass three in the town square. Very pleasant environment.
>what is the best town in oblivion
Jauffre would be the one to know. He lives quietly as a monk at Weynon Priory.
whats the best "town" in starfield?
The one that looks like a Frontier western town
Yeah, made me wish i was playing Fallout instead