>corviknight
And this is how you know the term "shitmon" lost all meaning since it can be applied to any Pokemon regardless of its viability in competitive be it Smogon or VGC.
I will admit that Bidoof is so worthless that he is kinda iconic again.
Simularely like how ET on Atari was so bad that it was never forgotten and is sold for 200$ on ebay.
A shitmon is a Pokémon intentionally designed to be awful - available very early with low stats, often reaches its final evolution stage by Level 20, often has a powerful (Hidden) Ability that would be busted on a stronger Pokémon.
So something like Gumshoos which has 3 amazing Abilities and a good attack stat of 110, but most of its other stats are 60 and below so it doesn’t even have the bulk nor speed to capitalize on its potential power.
Bibarel would also fit as it evolves at Level 15 and its highest stat is an 85 in Attack, with every other stat being 50-79. Again it has 3 amazing Abilities but it lacks the raw power and speed to capitalize on Moody and Simple, and lacks the bulk to be an Unaware user.
Watchog has Analytic, but it isn’t deliberately slow (built for Trick Room slow) at 77 speed to make use of the Ability. It also lacks the bulk (60/69/69) and power (85/65) to be an Analytic mon. It doesn’t help that Watchog has both NP and SD and a great special movepool.
Corviknight and Crobat do not count. Corviknight was designed to be the mid late game bird over alternatives such as Cramorant. Crobat was designed to be a shitmon at first but becomes respectable due to evolving further in Gen 2 (and most Pokémon were shitmons in Gens 1 and 2 anyway). Silvally functions more as an Onix or Miltank sort of role where it has to be somewhat weak to not be too difficult as a boss, but impractical in competitive.
Patrat is one of the most unpleasant designs in the whole series. The Route 1 rats are usually supposed to look cute, and that's clearly what they were going for with Patrat, but its glowing red eyes just make it look hideous and vaguely creepy. I'm not sure how they intended for this design to be received.
It also doesn't help that it's a pure Normal type with possibly the most subpar, nondescript, stat spread, movepool, and Ability options in the series. So even if you somehow like its design, even trying to use it is just an exercise in disappointment and frustration.
This Pokemon is the definition of filler; it's unpleasant to look at, unpleasant to use, and seemingly only exists just so that the game could have a stock low-level enemy - and no care, consideration, or design intention was put into the character beyond that.
Patrat is quite possibly the worst Pokemon ever made.
Imagine being a final evo with 75 in your primary attacking stat on a mon designed to attack. How embarrassing. Unironically worse than just using something fast and versatile like Crobat.
What the frick were they thinking with Volbeat? >give it Tail Glow that during its debut only raises special by two stages and has 47 base special attack >doesn't learn special moves leveling up >otherwise learns water pulse (?), giga drain, and thunderbolt/shock wave for special moves, only will have shock wave for most of the game if you give it that >it's fricking ugly, and Illumise also looks and plays like shit
Why do these things exist?
Now, I wanna defend sunflora (and I guess sunkern on thar regard)
while sunflora might not have the migthiest of stats, he can still defend itself on a few parts >move pool >design
being design his strongest part compared to the horrible looks of the bug pair >t.. bug gay
also wtf, breloom is awesome
Add Delcatty >sub 400 BST before gen 7 >normalize makes it worse >65 attack is it's best offensive stat, 65 defense is its best defensive stat >90 speed is its best stat
At best it learns a bunch of TMs that it can't use effectively.
>shit design >shit stats >single stage >zero meaningful unique attributes in battle
all that being said it does get 3 solid abilities, even if it is far and away the worst fully-evolved user of every single one of them (especially sheer force), so it probably isn't the pinnacle but i'd say it's pretty damn close
>Bibarel
shitmon with great abilities and excellent hm slave >crobat
good mon >silvally
mediocre mon that has been glorified to be a good mon which makes it look even more like a shitmon in comparison >Watchog
huge shitmon, doesn't even stand out amongs other route 1 rodents >Gumshoos
suprisingly usable
good mon
garbage in every possible way, from it's design to it's stats. It how it looks like it was cobbled together last second with a bunch of basic cylinder shapes, and they clearly gave no thought to how it's stats should be.
Charizard
>corviknight
>implying
You mean "sentient DIV hammer kit"
75
160 attack power.
Stop derailing my thread.
You engaged with the argument first tripBlack person, don't pretend you don't care when your ass got blown out and you're butt-mad ass-rape hole-hurt.
53
41%
patrat is based, he caused so much seethe in gen5 for having bide and ohko'ing your starter
>corviknight
And this is how you know the term "shitmon" lost all meaning since it can be applied to any Pokemon regardless of its viability in competitive be it Smogon or VGC.
"Mega Rayquaza and Zacian are shitmons"
It canonically jobs to twinkaatun though.
have a nice day tripgay
Crobat is awesome! Frick you!!!!
Then post a worse mon to take it's place.
Delibird
>The first blatant jobmon
This. Frick Delibird and shit trend it started
Machoke is a bodybuilder
Presumably anon is referring to "jobbing", not employment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_(professional_wrestling)
Makes sense. Haven't heard that term in a while
>A legend is a job now
>Hitmonchan is a boxer
>Machoke is a wrestler
>Hypno is a hypnotist
>Jynx is an opera singer
Touch grass
Also Mr. Mime and Chansey
Bidoof has a use as an HM slave
Zubat evolves into Crobat so he's cool
I will admit that Bidoof is so worthless that he is kinda iconic again.
Simularely like how ET on Atari was so bad that it was never forgotten and is sold for 200$ on ebay.
He is probably not the biggest shitmon.
>Bidoof has a use as an HM slave
Same with Tropius but Game Freak took that away.
imagine coming to an anonymous imageboard and being so desperate for attention you create a tripcode. fricking pathetic
Sunkern has the lowest bst of all pokemon
It's also not fully evolved
Wishiwashi thechnically has lower base stats, but it can take on a badass swarm form so it isn't a shitmon.
Sunflora isn't all that memorable but definitively not a shitmon.
Then what is a shitmon to you?
Shit design + Shit in combat + (optionally) cucked by other Pokémon + not iconic or memorable.
I'd argue Sunflora is all of those, though.
Pidove, clamperl and its evolutions, ilumise and volbeat
Basically all in the OP are shitmon, except Bidoof.
I just included Bidoof because I love to hate her soo much.
Have to disagree with zubat and corviknight
Gen 1.
After that it's milking the franchise.
I love Watchog and how fricking intense it's face is, wish it was better.
A shitmon is a Pokémon intentionally designed to be awful - available very early with low stats, often reaches its final evolution stage by Level 20, often has a powerful (Hidden) Ability that would be busted on a stronger Pokémon.
So something like Gumshoos which has 3 amazing Abilities and a good attack stat of 110, but most of its other stats are 60 and below so it doesn’t even have the bulk nor speed to capitalize on its potential power.
Bibarel would also fit as it evolves at Level 15 and its highest stat is an 85 in Attack, with every other stat being 50-79. Again it has 3 amazing Abilities but it lacks the raw power and speed to capitalize on Moody and Simple, and lacks the bulk to be an Unaware user.
Watchog has Analytic, but it isn’t deliberately slow (built for Trick Room slow) at 77 speed to make use of the Ability. It also lacks the bulk (60/69/69) and power (85/65) to be an Analytic mon. It doesn’t help that Watchog has both NP and SD and a great special movepool.
Corviknight and Crobat do not count. Corviknight was designed to be the mid late game bird over alternatives such as Cramorant. Crobat was designed to be a shitmon at first but becomes respectable due to evolving further in Gen 2 (and most Pokémon were shitmons in Gens 1 and 2 anyway). Silvally functions more as an Onix or Miltank sort of role where it has to be somewhat weak to not be too difficult as a boss, but impractical in competitive.
Bidoof is useful and has a great typing
Patrat is one of the most unpleasant designs in the whole series. The Route 1 rats are usually supposed to look cute, and that's clearly what they were going for with Patrat, but its glowing red eyes just make it look hideous and vaguely creepy. I'm not sure how they intended for this design to be received.
It also doesn't help that it's a pure Normal type with possibly the most subpar, nondescript, stat spread, movepool, and Ability options in the series. So even if you somehow like its design, even trying to use it is just an exercise in disappointment and frustration.
This Pokemon is the definition of filler; it's unpleasant to look at, unpleasant to use, and seemingly only exists just so that the game could have a stock low-level enemy - and no care, consideration, or design intention was put into the character beyond that.
Patrat is quite possibly the worst Pokemon ever made.
>Patrat is one of the most unpleasant designs in the whole series
Imagine having this much of a shit taste.
cringe
>The Route 1 rats are usually supposed to look cute,
Wrong.
I love Rattata have a nice day
>This Pokemon is the definition of filler
Pretty much any lazy cartoon animal is a fillermon
Tinkaton
Imagine being a final evo with 75 in your primary attacking stat on a mon designed to attack. How embarrassing. Unironically worse than just using something fast and versatile like Crobat.
Please refrain from posting while under the effect of cocain.
HE'S GOT 75 GOLDEN CAMELS
PURPLE PEAwienerS, HE'S GOT 53
WHEN IT COMES TO EXOTIC-TYPE MAMMALS
Bidoof has always been my favorite shitter since 2007
tinkatroon seethe thread
>Not a single shitmon un pic related
Not a lot of shitmons honestly.
Have you tried looking at bugmons
You mean bugmen?
Breloom
Argomon
Digimon
I want to nominate the following
>Volbeat
>Unown
>Alomamola
>Alomamola
Yeah, that makes sense.
What the frick were they thinking with Volbeat?
>give it Tail Glow that during its debut only raises special by two stages and has 47 base special attack
>doesn't learn special moves leveling up
>otherwise learns water pulse (?), giga drain, and thunderbolt/shock wave for special moves, only will have shock wave for most of the game if you give it that
>it's fricking ugly, and Illumise also looks and plays like shit
Why do these things exist?
Results so far:
Ilumise & Volbeat x3
Sunkern
Sunflora
Patrat
Unnown
Breloom
Alomamola
Probably trolling:
Delibird
Charizard
Definitively trolling:
Tinkaton
Now, I wanna defend sunflora (and I guess sunkern on thar regard)
while sunflora might not have the migthiest of stats, he can still defend itself on a few parts
>move pool
>design
being design his strongest part compared to the horrible looks of the bug pair
>t.. bug gay
also wtf, breloom is awesome
I'm dead serious Black person Tinkaton is shit.
Add Delcatty
>sub 400 BST before gen 7
>normalize makes it worse
>65 attack is it's best offensive stat, 65 defense is its best defensive stat
>90 speed is its best stat
At best it learns a bunch of TMs that it can't use effectively.
But Delicatty is a large cat.
It's also shit.
Tinkaton
>shit design
>shit stats
>single stage
>zero meaningful unique attributes in battle
all that being said it does get 3 solid abilities, even if it is far and away the worst fully-evolved user of every single one of them (especially sheer force), so it probably isn't the pinnacle but i'd say it's pretty damn close
>Bibarel
shitmon with great abilities and excellent hm slave
>crobat
good mon
>silvally
mediocre mon that has been glorified to be a good mon which makes it look even more like a shitmon in comparison
>Watchog
huge shitmon, doesn't even stand out amongs other route 1 rodents
>Gumshoos
suprisingly usable
good mon
garbage in every possible way, from it's design to it's stats. It how it looks like it was cobbled together last second with a bunch of basic cylinder shapes, and they clearly gave no thought to how it's stats should be.