But 5 had stupid mechanics, a dumb story, and the stupid currency system where you end up losing money by replaying missions (but only after they patched the game to nerf having fun). Plus Quiet disappearing even from previous missions, which was absurd. It was an unfinished game. Also, the level designs were mostly ass. Only a few levels were actually good, the open world seriously hurt the game. Ground Zeroes definitely had worse control, but they showed how even the same level 8 times could be so different by having a handcrafted and thought out mission and enemy placement.
I still believe 4 was an elaborate troll made by Kojima because he was just done with the franchise, things like hiring those models for those absolutely pointless post-boss battle scenes and the fact that there was extremely little gameplay in all acts following 2, it was like he was asking for konami to finally shelf this shit.
I feel that way about 2 as well. Think about it. > MGS1 is a massive hit, everyone loves it. >PS2 comes out >No way Sony is gonna let an exclusive like that pass, and no way Konami will let Kohima work on something else when they have such an obvious goldmine >MGS2 is just random shit Kojima finds interesting, including metrosexual vampires and fat guys on skates, whole game is just a massive troll. Lady Luck? Actually it was a device she somehow never knew she had on her. Lol just kidding she really is magic suddenly. >Reddit jerks themselves off to how only high brained intellectuals can understand the genius of Kojima >Kojima leaves, then comes back because he actually wants to and makes MGS3 >It still has dumb shit but the gameplay is great, story is kinda just a retelling of the MGS1 story but earlier, and people love it >PS3 comes out, it sucks and Sony desperately needs a big name game, no way Konami will let Kojima work on something else >MGS4 is literally one of the worst, if not THE worst, games I’ve ever played >Reddit goes back to jerking off to Kojima claiming that only galaxy brained people can understand his genius, because it definitely wasn’t him just throwing random shit together and trying to be artsy while pretending he was making a tv show
In my objectively correct and indisputable opinion
3 > 1 > 2 > 4 > PW > 5
5 hurts being that low because out of all the games it feels really good to control, but literally every other aspect of the game is trash.
It's not 5 it's V >but literally every other aspect of the game is trash
But that's wrong. It's not worth side tracking the thread arguing over the story but the voice acting and music was good. The graphics were and still are good.
superfluous elements. I could give less of a frick about music and voice acting and graphics, where are the compelling environments to stealth through? the bulk of the game is empty space with outposts smaller than a screen in fricking Metal Gear 1. There are a total of like 5 sizable locales to sneak around in, it's pathetic. the missions are also aimless fluff that mostly do nothing narratively too, making them feel like unimportant filler, and the boss fights are the worst the franchise has ever seen. funny how you think my singular gripes with the game is the dogshit plot
2 > 4 > pw > 3 > ac!d 2 > 5 > 1 > everything else
1>3>2>5>4>pw
1 > 3 > 2 > 4 > Portable ops > Peace Walker > V
PW and V are complete tedium and nothing like the other games in the franchise.
Depends.
Gameplay
5>3>1>2>4
But 5 had stupid mechanics, a dumb story, and the stupid currency system where you end up losing money by replaying missions (but only after they patched the game to nerf having fun). Plus Quiet disappearing even from previous missions, which was absurd. It was an unfinished game. Also, the level designs were mostly ass. Only a few levels were actually good, the open world seriously hurt the game. Ground Zeroes definitely had worse control, but they showed how even the same level 8 times could be so different by having a handcrafted and thought out mission and enemy placement.
Story
1>3>5>2>4
>5 has a better story than both 4 and even 2
>Doesn't add PW
newbies I swear
2 > 1 > 3 > 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 > PW
V > 2 > 3 > 1 > PW > 4 > PO
PW>3>1>4>V>2>MG2>MG
PO>GB>AC!D2>AC!D>Survive>Snake's Revenge
>PO>Rising>TS>GB>AC!D2>AC!D>Survive>Snake's Revenge
fixed
the Online versions I consider with the originals
I still believe 4 was an elaborate troll made by Kojima because he was just done with the franchise, things like hiring those models for those absolutely pointless post-boss battle scenes and the fact that there was extremely little gameplay in all acts following 2, it was like he was asking for konami to finally shelf this shit.
4 does have great moments but the gameplay is so sparse and it's so self indulgent it's hard to go back to
I feel that way about 2 as well. Think about it.
> MGS1 is a massive hit, everyone loves it.
>PS2 comes out
>No way Sony is gonna let an exclusive like that pass, and no way Konami will let Kohima work on something else when they have such an obvious goldmine
>MGS2 is just random shit Kojima finds interesting, including metrosexual vampires and fat guys on skates, whole game is just a massive troll. Lady Luck? Actually it was a device she somehow never knew she had on her. Lol just kidding she really is magic suddenly.
>Reddit jerks themselves off to how only high brained intellectuals can understand the genius of Kojima
>Kojima leaves, then comes back because he actually wants to and makes MGS3
>It still has dumb shit but the gameplay is great, story is kinda just a retelling of the MGS1 story but earlier, and people love it
>PS3 comes out, it sucks and Sony desperately needs a big name game, no way Konami will let Kojima work on something else
>MGS4 is literally one of the worst, if not THE worst, games I’ve ever played
>Reddit goes back to jerking off to Kojima claiming that only galaxy brained people can understand his genius, because it definitely wasn’t him just throwing random shit together and trying to be artsy while pretending he was making a tv show
>including metrosexual vampires and fat guys on skates
Based
1 > 3 > 2 > 4 > PW > 5 > The rest
I'm convinced anyone putting portable ops anywhere but the bottom is baiting. I love the franchise but that game sucked
1=2>3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
else
How pw could be better than v?
In my objectively correct and indisputable opinion
3 > 1 > 2 > 4 > PW > 5
5 hurts being that low because out of all the games it feels really good to control, but literally every other aspect of the game is trash.
It's not 5 it's V
>but literally every other aspect of the game is trash
But that's wrong. It's not worth side tracking the thread arguing over the story but the voice acting and music was good. The graphics were and still are good.
superfluous elements. I could give less of a frick about music and voice acting and graphics, where are the compelling environments to stealth through? the bulk of the game is empty space with outposts smaller than a screen in fricking Metal Gear 1. There are a total of like 5 sizable locales to sneak around in, it's pathetic. the missions are also aimless fluff that mostly do nothing narratively too, making them feel like unimportant filler, and the boss fights are the worst the franchise has ever seen. funny how you think my singular gripes with the game is the dogshit plot
3>1>>2>>>>4>>>>>>>>5
The ending to 4 makes up for the entire game
>fun games tier
PW
V
>shit movies tier
Everything else
2>1>3>pw>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>5
5>3>2>1>pw
Natural circle of MG series
3 = 4 > 2 > 1
>>> all the rest are shit. PW gays can suck a fart from my ass, PSP games don't get any consideration in rankings
Never Receiving an Academy Award
3 = 1 > 5/PW = 6: Ground Zeroes >>> 6: Phantom Pain >>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking a hot dump > 4.
You can't refute this.
Dog shit>Black folk>Every mgs game
Here you go.
The objectively correct list from a former obsessed fanboy of the series.
TPP > MGS = GZ > PW > 2 = 3 = 4 = SS = MG
1>3>2>GZ>V>4>MG2>MG1>PW>PO
Never played the Ac!d games but want to
3 > 1 > 2 > 4 > PW
I still haven't played V beyond Ground Zeroes.
Rising is the best
Rising is alright. I think it's quality is overblown, it's like the weakest of platinum's good action game output.
3>2>5>4>1>PW
2 > 4(its so fricking topical right now, ignoring the mgs lore) > 1 = 3 > PW > GZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V
MS3 is the only one that ever left any impression ok me through gameplay so that's that