>both center around themes of the futility of pushing against higher powers and the cruelty of mankind >both are notorious for a level of cruelty and violence beyond the norms of their mediums >both have that whole "is this a real person or a physical manifestation of some greater, malevolent force that's intrinsic to nature itself" thing going on >both famously have reputations of more people talking about them than actually reading/playing them
idk I think it's a fair comparison. Not 1:1 but not really a stretch either.
I mean in terms of the violence that it deals with. Most games won't even touch on child death. Pathologic not only revolves heavily around a bunch of kids dying, but you can straight up just murder kids in the street. Similarly, if you don't manage to salvage your reputation you'll end up running around killing civilians and harvesting their organs for the black market. So yeah, in terms of the "content" of the violence it's much more than most games' "kill the baddies".
It can be. In my first playthrough I was starving and was completely out of resources. If I didn't raid a home I was going to die. I get inside this innocent persons home and start rummaging and the owner catches me and attacks me. I kill him, start going through his shit, and then his kid starts attacking me. The game put me in a situation where if I didn't kill a child I would have died. No other game I've played has the balls to make that situation a possibility. And then you can go even further and harvest their organs to sell later. This stuff is made even more poignant because the death system actually punishes you so you are geniunely afraid of dying. I don't think I would have done any of that fricked up shit if the game just let me die as many times as I wanted without consequences like in other games.
Also, I think it could have been way more violent but reality its low budget slavjank. The opening of the game has you ripping a mans heart out and seeing people get burned alive.
>Collect organs of healthy children during a mystical steppe pandemic >Tomorrow you need to harvest more in a frantic race to invent a panacea >In seeking redemption for the town, the main character loses himself in what would commonly be seen as psychotic barbarism
Alternatively just pawn of a child's kidney so you can afford a can of tuna.
It's incredibly graphic in subject matter but it doesn't really show that much. Like, you can kill a guy and rip out his organs to sell, but there's no animation for it or anything, just a menu
>Why does McCarthy writes like a moron who doesn't know what punctuation is ?
Because that's exactly what he is.
90% of people shitposting about Blood Meridian haven't read it, and the 10% that have are violently autistic.
It is a terrible fricking story, and the only reason it has any traction at all is because the hecking based and tradpilled horrortuber made a video about it, which means it's the best story ever written.
Come on, whenever anyone brought up McCarthy prior to two months ago, they were either talking about No Country for Old Men, or The Border Trilogy.
But coincidentally, after some inbred hillbilly makes a video about what a wonderful masterpiece it is, everyone suddenly decides that Blood Meridian was actually a well-known classic epic, and masterpiece of American literature.
Spoilers, it's not.
Blood Meridian sucked in 1985, and it sucks now. It was an early piece of work from an author who would later go on to great things, and even then, Cormack McCarthy is most well known because someone made a film adaptation that was better than his book. The only reason I stomached through the book in High School is because a fricking hurricane the town I was staying in, and Blood Meridian was one of three books that was in the cabin I was staying in.
You are a moron. BM is one of the historical big 3 meme books and has been discussed ad nauseum on this site since Ganker was created. It is one of the most widely acclaimed and popular works of US literature ever written.
>M is one of the historical big 3 meme books and has been discussed ad nauseum on this site since Ganker was created.
Exactly. It's fricking trash, and nobody talks about it
12 months ago
Anonymous
.... you're a special kind of moron aren't you. BM has only been compared to Lord of the Fricking Rings so far in this thread. People even know subconsciously that it's a great piece of literature. People talk about it constantly. McCarthy drops Black person like it grows on the side of the road and Oprah, queen Black person herself, invites him on broadcast television to suck his dick. To say no one talks about BM is a dumdum thing to say.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Come on, whenever anyone brought up McCarthy prior to two months ago, they were either talking about No Country for Old Men, or The Border Trilogy.
But coincidentally, after some inbred hillbilly makes a video about what a wonderful masterpiece it is, everyone suddenly decides that Blood Meridian was actually a well-known classic epic, and masterpiece of American literature.
Spoilers, it's not.
Blood Meridian sucked in 1985, and it sucks now. It was an early piece of work from an author who would later go on to great things, and even then, Cormack McCarthy is most well known because someone made a film adaptation that was better than his book. The only reason I stomached through the book in High School is because a fricking hurricane the town I was staying in, and Blood Meridian was one of three books that was in the cabin I was staying in.
I suspect you're upset that Ganker doesn't talk about whatever more ideologically acceptable (but no doubt less interesting) work you want them to talk about. I'm not even a big Blood Meridian guy because admittedly I haven't read it but these posts strike me as resentment that a book you perceive as right-wing is well-liked.
Whatever youtuber you're mad about, I've never heard of them, but I have seen people talk about Blood Meridian for a long time prior to their video. Perhaps you should consider finding a perennial topic on Ganker that you do like.
12 months ago
Anonymous
He was interviewed on Oprah's show and is seen as a fairly popular writer. Evidently not on par with Stephen King. But if you're actively into books, you probably read one of his at some point.
12 months ago
Anonymous
It's in the meme trilogy BECAUSE it is overdiscussed you fricking idiot.
>or The Border Trilogy.
I have literally never seen discussion on even just All the Pretty Horses here outside of people bringing it up in Blood Meridian or McCarthy threads on Ganker.
Not even mentioning The Road when discussing what McCarthy books people actually talk about already reflects poorly.
Your palpable outrage that youtube recommended you a Blood Meridian video is really funny as well.
>Come on, whenever anyone brought up McCarthy prior to two months ago, they were either talking about No Country for Old Men, or The Border Trilogy.
I don't even want to finish reading your post because of this completely wrong statement. Pretty much the entire reason I read that book is because I kept hearing about it a couple years ago.
i have only ever seen McCarthy brought up in the context of Blood Meridian. i didn't even know that Old Men was a originally a book until the day he died, let alone he'd written it. i've also never heard of the border trilogy.
I really don't know how anyone can actually read it and say that. The language alone spoiled me for other books. The descriptions and phrasing of landscapes and journies ruined other books for me. I just sort of shut down when other authors try to paint scenery. It's like a 8 year-old kid trying to describe their day at the fair.
Rude. I've read at LEAST 10.
But jokes aside, in my opinion he is, there are more descriptive writers, but Nike manage to do it and make it fun to read and with such finesse. His description of the Silmarils for example.
100 pages into LOTR and 80% of it was completely inconsequential shit like going into mind-numbing details about every single hobbit family in the shire and every problem each family has with another family. dropped it shortly after that.
I hate to say this but... Filtered. The preamble sets up the contrast of the story. From when the gang meets the elves it's full tilt.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>Yuck, this sandwich tastes like it has poop in it. I'm not finishing it. >FRICKING SANDWICH FILTERED! Broz you have to eat the poop first before you get to the good part of the sandwich! I mean, there's still a little poop in that part but the taste underneath is THE BEST. As long as you just gag through it, it's a great sandwich. You are just a pallet-let.
12 months ago
Anonymous
It's just a book with a bit of a boring start, I don't think it's fair to make a comparison like this.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>World building at the very beginning of a series? This is fricking unreadable trash.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Black person, Tolkien admits he wrote all the way up to the Prancing Pony and then stopped because he didn't know what the story was doing. Strider was written as a completely different character at the time. He should have fricking rewritten the beginning. No amount homosexual basedjacks will change that
12 months ago
Anonymous
Admittedly, worldbuilding is an extremely overused strategy particularly when authors get extremely up their own ass about defining how magic works or how minerals are distributed in their world or whatever.
Tolkien doesn't do that, it's about the hobbits' culture and shit, but worldbuilding can certainly be unreadable trash and I think most people who set out to worldbuild instead of tell a good story have failed at the first hurdle
12 months ago
Anonymous
Tolkien was one of the first to actually set up a world that was living and breathing, and THEN make a story within it. I'm very fond of his care when telling me about the different cultures of Arda so I'm biased, but he was definitely unique at the time.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah. I give him a pass because I -do- like his worldbuilding, and because he was effectively the first to do it, but at some point there's an established repertoire of fantasy tropes that don't need to be custom built by every author
Honestly Vance who I really like hardly worldbuilds at all in his stories but still manages to get the nature of the world across
12 months ago
Anonymous
I haven't read Vance, so I wouldn't know, but I made the initial post about Book of the New Sun, a trilogy that basically explains nothing and even misdirects the Reader on purpose using obtuse terminology, and I want to say that as much as I respect that, you're putting a lot of faith that the reader isn't a braindead mouth breather.
12 months ago
Anonymous
tolkien gets incredibly anal about irrelevant geography especially in the silmarillion
the only issue lotr has is pacing, the amount of times they stop to launch into singing or reminiscing at the wrong points is annoying
the vidya equivalent would have to be a masterpiece that doesn't get the attention it deserves, largely unnoticed by the masses, something challenging
The Void or Pathologic like the other Anon said, or maybe Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee, LOOM, Riven, Cosmology of Kyoto. idk I'm just some fricking guy
The road, no contry for old men. He's pretty well known.
>zoomer youtuber makes a 5 hour video essay that permanently kills all discussion of BM on the internet forever >mccarthy dies of cringe within the month
Frick this gay earth
>and the only reason it has any traction at all is because the hecking based and tradpilled horrortuber made a video about it, which means it's the best story ever written.
Never mind the countless papers written on it, entire courses devoted to study the man and his magnum opus, no, it's e-celebs!
I took two literature classes in college. One was about science fiction and how it changed as a genre with political/technological advances in the west. The other was about Blood Meridian and how it changed fiction. The book was already canonized long before some dude posted a video essay about it. Is Goodfellas bad too because I can easily find a dozen video essays digesting it for the uninitiated?
Come on, whenever anyone brought up McCarthy prior to two months ago, they were either talking about No Country for Old Men, or The Border Trilogy.
But coincidentally, after some inbred hillbilly makes a video about what a wonderful masterpiece it is, everyone suddenly decides that Blood Meridian was actually a well-known classic epic, and masterpiece of American literature.
Spoilers, it's not.
Blood Meridian sucked in 1985, and it sucks now. It was an early piece of work from an author who would later go on to great things, and even then, Cormack McCarthy is most well known because someone made a film adaptation that was better than his book. The only reason I stomached through the book in High School is because a fricking hurricane the town I was staying in, and Blood Meridian was one of three books that was in the cabin I was staying in.
you guys always wait until some random eceleb has made a video on something to shit on it and every single time it comes off more forced than the eceleb's end
>e the hecking based and tradpilled horrortuber made a video about it, which means it's the best story ever written.
Who? I never heard of that. Ganker is obsessed with this book and has been for years
I'm just glad to see something popular depict the natives as the rapacious blood cult savages that they were. Fricking tired of them constantly being depicted as victims.
If you want an honest take, it's a double-edged issue. We shouldn't have butchered them into oblivion and forced them to live in that methed up wasteland we call Oklahoma, but they should have seen an army of white men with boom sticks and smallpox blankets and thought "maybe we should stop killing every third child to appease the tree gods".
Yeah it just pisses me off when I'm watching a video about it and whenever the white men farm some Squantos for exp it's terrible and evil but when the natives attack a settlement and kill innocent people it's "daring and bold".
If you go to any book review site, there are people seething at this book for portraying the Commanche as insanely lethal fighters who enjoyed killing and fighting wars for spoils or revenge as opposed to muh noble savage
>Commanche as insanely lethal fighters who enjoyed killing and fighting wars for spoils or revenge
Why can't modern native Americans be like that?
I'm not an American but that sounds cool and would be interesting to see them wrec havoc in United States.
>Why can't modern native Americans be like that?
Because they live in shitty reservations under poor living conditions, nobody remembers their culture or respects them, so they're just scamming whitey out of money at the casinos instead
It's like asking why nordics can't be like vikings anymore
12 months ago
Anonymous
And yet the guys who weren't even here to begin with get more respect.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Ah shit I put the image in the wrong post
An incomplete list of horrible shit you can do in this game. Remember, no killable human NPCs so any human stuff is other players. >Lure wild animals to the main city to frick shit up, including bears, bison, and gators >Kidnap a guy and tie him up in a cell in a fort while you do whatever you so please with him >Just generally mugging people >Hack people to death with a machete >Poison people with darts or arrows >Blow up people with dynamite suicide bombings >Drown dudes to death >Kill someone with an tomahawk >Straight up tie someone to the train tracks
It can go from treasure hunting with combat to straight up mass-terror simulator really really fast
that's perfectly fair they weren't all warriors. It just does a disservice to everyone to present it like none of them were and only white people were doing terrible things. Really lame Natives just accept the victim status too.
If you go to any book review site, there are people seething at this book for portraying the Commanche as insanely lethal fighters who enjoyed killing and fighting wars for spoils or revenge as opposed to muh noble savage
Based there is absolutely no prettying up the Commanche hahaha
He evolved past needing it. Imagine anyone else doing that and any moron b***hing about it just gets side eyes. Picasso knew the rules of composition and perspective better than most masters and so he knew how to break them in an intuitive and nuanced way. McCarthy is the same. If you're too much of dirt-eating Black person boob to understand that I don't know how to explain it to you.
I dunno, that'd take a while. Recently I've read some Calasso's The Ruin of Kasch, Gogol, a re-read of Tristram Shandy, Gormenghast, Brian Evenson's latest short story collection, the latest two Strugatsky novels that have been translated, Nostromo, and Charles Nicholl's book on Christopher Marlowe.
It's many, many, many words and pages to say "People are evil". It doesn't try to expand on the point or philosophize on it, it just arrives at that singular point but takes forever to do it. Pretentiousness is trying to affect a sense of intellectual superiority or deeper understanding than others, and that's exactly what most of his works are. Yes, killing people is bad. No one doesn't know this. Yes, the Judge represents people being evil. We don't need several hundred pages and repeat paragraphs with archaic or foreign words saying that to get the point.
I guess so ultimately, but not all pieces of media claim to be something they aren't. Granted Cormac seemed much more humble than his fans, who truly take it to the extreme, but there's still an air of smug pretentiousness to his writings I think.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, there's this interview released around December last year that I think is Corncob's last public appearance and he refuses to call mathematics the language of truth, implying with what little his already half-gone mind can muster that everything is just language and we're shit at communicating. Plus he made his wife work for him while he NEETed it up writing his books. He's not a humble man in the least.
There's this one story about Flannery O'Connor meeting some lit professor that tried to boil down everything to "le point" with a character that's actually eerily similar to The Judge and just completely avoiding every one of his questions. The exploration of language and period and people isn't something that boils down to a moral story like you were still five and watching Disney films. You're projecting your own infantilized mind to a medium that's genuinely too smart for you and crying a trisyllabic insult when it refuses to knee the same way everything else in culture has to meet your little man demands.
This is what happens when you take le moral pill tbh. You become thoroughly incapable of devising the world in anything but single-sentence parables.
What a dreadful way to experience life.
12 months ago
Anonymous
>im smarter than u
brave
12 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. But you can get smarter too if you read some books.
12 months ago
Anonymous
readings gay and ur a pretentious gay
12 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. But you can get smarter too if you read some books.
>loves nihilism >posts anime
You are on the spectrum, without a doubt.
>The exploration of language and period and people isn't something that boils down to a moral story like you were still five and watching Disney films
What is it then? Because from where I'm sitting that's absolutely the case. It's many flowery words and nonstop, semi-coherent rambling to arrive at an extremely basic point, because ultimately our minds fixate on extremely basic concepts. We can only think and come up with so much before we hit a hard limit, like how we can't come up with more colors than what we currently have.
It's not just Cormac either, I feel the same way about a lot of supposedly "great and deep" books like Moby Dick. I think it's pretentious tripe. While I agree that it's not a good idea to immediately boil everything down to the simplest possible conclusion, i.e. the only point of the entire story is *basic moral concept*, I think it's very easy and much more common that things are overanalyzed and given importance or depth where there simply isn't any.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Try processing the words for what they represent, not the words themselves. That is to say, actually use your head to think about the scenes being described, the actions taking place and the characters making them happen. Paint the book in your own way while reading it and "get" what you want out of it, but only AFTER consuming it appropriately. Moby Dick isn't about le revenge or the indomitable majesty of nature (AKA God AKA a white whale, an animal smarter than a man, AKA whatever), it's about a homoerotic trip to hell with a bunch of Black folk and irish homosexuals on a sweaty and salty ship. Etc.
That's if you want. There's genuinely no point to fiction other than experiencing those different lives through those authors and relating to them in your own tiny ways. Though the strengths of Corncob are best shown when you actually process his prose for what it's trying to say. Every sentence has its own meaning, that's the charm.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Whales aren't smarter than humans! That's factually incorrect!
Everything is bleak, kind of hopeless, there's fear in the air and plenty of biblical tier horrors, also it's god tier and it too filters morons through the exposition (outdated graphics in VtMB's case, just like Cormac's writing style filters morons like )
>outdated graphics
and also shitty combat
I really stand by it, the more I think about it the more I believe VtMB is the vidya equivalent of Blood Meridian. They also both have blood in their names
the vidya equivalent would have to be a masterpiece that doesn't get the attention it deserves, largely unnoticed by the masses, something challenging
The Void or Pathologic like the other Anon said, or maybe Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee, LOOM, Riven, Cosmology of Kyoto. idk I'm just some fricking guy
>the vidya equivalent would have to be a masterpiece that doesn't get the attention it deserves
This is easily one of the most shilled books of all time and I see it talked about outside of here a lot. The frick are you talking about.
>the vidya equivalent would have to be a masterpiece that doesn't get the attention it deserves, largely unnoticed by the masses, something challenging
Grim Fandango
I lost interest in CoQ when it turns out that its not actually the devs being creative, they are literally schizo trannies and furries, the concepts and ideas are nonsense and contradictory, and not by design, but because they are terrible writers and sometimes the mad scrawling makes sense to the rational.
>it turns out that its not actually the devs being creative, they are literally schizo trannies and furries
These aren't mutually exclusive, in fact they are often linked.
I understand the pain of desiring only hardcovers. I got extremely lucky and got my two copies from a charity shop. One is missing the dust cover though, very sad.
This is one of the only books I would genuinely call unadaptable.
Blood Meridian would work as a mini series, the only issue is censors. BotNS on the other hand is built around unreliable narration that only works without visuals.
been reading through this and really enjoying it. it's aged extremely well but for some reason no one seems to talk about how much of a satire of the genre it is. fun fact the Atlas Earth lead devs claim to be inspired by works like Snow Crash, Ready Player One and Scott Pilgrim which explains a lot lol
>Atlas Earth
That one stupid fricking mobile game with zoomer Luigi in the ads?
Also, yeah, Snow Crash is cool, but it's almost TOO "haha cyberpunk amiright?"
if it had only been snow crash and scott pilgrim i'd be in but if they really added ready player one to that then i'm gonna have to pass, one of the worst books i've ever read
>hahaha wow, I found this thread again on Ganker! It's about Blood Meridian! Again! Fifty times a day posting the same actor lists, the same quotes, the same replies! >I know! >I will post this Blood Meridian thread.................on Ganker this time!
I don't get why all of a sudden this got so much attention, I'm reading it now because some gay said this might be the greatest American novel or whatever, and because it's supposedly too disturbing to read.
Really all it has going for it is that it's disturbing and graphic and the judges ramblings I suppose, but the style of writing and the constant painting landscapes with words is so fricking boring after the first 10 times
For anons who've actually read the books, do you recommend it? I've read Cormacs popular works like The Road but hadn't heard about Blood Meridian till I got the Youtube vid recommendation.
Try it and form your own opinion. The narrative gets established like 7-8 chapters in but for most part the book just follows a bunch of borderline moronic psychopaths, led/trailed/opposed by some kind of supernatural pedophile psychopath as they kill people in the desert in very gruesome ways, occasionally stepping outside the desert to kill different people in different but still very gruesome ways. Some of the chapters have really beautiful and evocative writing, also don't fall for the punctuation meme, the sentence structure follows a very natural rhythm. Faulkner is much more annoying to deal with when it comes to punctuation but you don't see anyone shitposting about him cause Blood Meridian adaptations have become a Ganker meme and everyone's turned contrarian on it at this point
Yes. If you liked his other works, you're already familiar with the shortcomings.
I'm rereading it a second time because I liked it and want to get more out of it on a second reading. Memes aside and people being angry some youtuber making a video on it it's pretty good. I've only watched No Country for Old Men (excellent movie) and The Road (good movie) but if they're faithful to their respect books as much as a movie can be and you like them you'd probably like Blood Meridian. It's an interesting story and it being loosely based off real people and events adds to it.
Thank you based anons. It's now very high on my list to read. Or maybe audiobook if anyone has a recommendation?
Try it and form your own opinion. The narrative gets established like 7-8 chapters in but for most part the book just follows a bunch of borderline moronic psychopaths, led/trailed/opposed by some kind of supernatural pedophile psychopath as they kill people in the desert in very gruesome ways, occasionally stepping outside the desert to kill different people in different but still very gruesome ways. Some of the chapters have really beautiful and evocative writing, also don't fall for the punctuation meme, the sentence structure follows a very natural rhythm. Faulkner is much more annoying to deal with when it comes to punctuation but you don't see anyone shitposting about him cause Blood Meridian adaptations have become a Ganker meme and everyone's turned contrarian on it at this point
I'm rereading it a second time because I liked it and want to get more out of it on a second reading. Memes aside and people being angry some youtuber making a video on it it's pretty good. I've only watched No Country for Old Men (excellent movie) and The Road (good movie) but if they're faithful to their respect books as much as a movie can be and you like them you'd probably like Blood Meridian. It's an interesting story and it being loosely based off real people and events adds to it.
I'm late but yes, and I haven't seen this youtuber homosexual's analysis video that anons are whining about either
Bear in mind that the entire middle section of the book consists of >the gang rode into the town >the gang got drunk and slaughtered everyone >they rode on
over and over, which you might find to be a slog
Just remember, it's based on a real gang and is a true story >what right man would have it any other way?
>C’MON HONEY PUSH! PUSH! YOU CAN DO THIS! I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THAT BEAUTIFUL DUSKY FACE LOOKING AT ME! >C’MON LITTLE YAKUB! YES! YES! I CAN SEE IT! IT’S, IT’S >... >what >What? >WHAT. THE. LE. ACTUAL. FRICK.
Smashes SteamDeck running disco elysium against wall in fit of anger >THIS IS A WHTE BABY! WHAT THE FRICK! YOU b***h! YOU LYING FRICKING c**t THIS IS A WHTE BABY WHAT THE FRICK HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO SLEEP WITH TYRONE!!! >YOU SCOOPED UP SOME OF MY CUM DROPS?! BECAUSE YOU WANTED A CHILD WITH THE MAN YOU LOVE? YOU TREACHEROUS NAZI ALT RIGHT INCEL c**t!!!! I KNEW I SHOULD OF GOTTEN THAT VASECTOMY AT THE DISCO ELYSIUM BOOTH AT THE VAUSH CONVENTION!!! I THOUGHT IT WAS SUSPICIOUS THAT YOU ARGUED AGAINST IT BUT I FIGURED IT WAS FINE BECAUSE I NEVER HAD SEX WITH YOU!!! I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D STAB ME IN THE BACK LIKE THIS!!! >WHAT DID I TELL YOU LAST YEAR AT THE DISCO ELYSIUM CONVENTION? I'M THE MOD OF HECKING /r/antinatalism! HOW THE FRICK AM I SUPPOSED TO BE THE REVOLUTIONARY VANGUARD IF MY INCEL REACTIONARY c**t WIFE POPPED A FRICKING LAUGHING BOUNCING WHITEOID CHUD NAZI INCEL BABY OUT OF HER c**t!!! >OH MY SCIENCE, I’M RUINED!!! YOU’VE RUINED ME YOU STUPID TWAT!!! MY WIFE GAVE BIRTH TO A WHTE BABY!!! AND A BOY TOO!!! IF IT WAS A WHTE GIRL I COULD AT LEAST LOOK FORWARD TO GIVING HER UP TO TYRONE ONCE SHE STARTED MENSTRUATING BUT I CANT DO THAT WITH A WHTE BOY NOW CAN I??? IM GONNA BE THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF THE KEKOLD COMMUNITY NOW!!! THEIR GONNA THINK IM A FRICKING NAZI RETHUGLICAN NOW!!! THIS IS THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE!!! >GIVE ME THAT NAZI WHTE BABY RIGHT NOW IM GONNA BREAK ITS FRICKING NECK!!!! I’M GONNA SMASH THAT WHTE FRICKING BABYS FRICKING SKULL UNDERNEATH MY MY RICK AND MORTY FLIPFLOPS!!!! GIVE IT TO ME YOU LYING NAZI c**t OR ILL CUT YOU A NEW HOLE IN YOUR FRICKING THROAT!!! GIVE IT TO ME YOU b***h GIVE IT GIVE IT GIVE IT!!!!! IN THE NAME OF JEFRE CANTU-LEDESMA I'M GOING TO FRICKING KILL IT!
The Right Opinion should be in this image. 2 fricking hour essays about petty drama fricking nobody cares about, it's the most white pypo shit i've ever seen.
A video essay is a narration of the whole product word by word and second by second with midwit opinions interjected, a review is just a summary or an advertisement*
>Vast open world filled with violent gangs, tribes and dangerous wildlife >If you're alone or weak you'll get jumped and left for dead in the desert >The only way to survive is strength in numbers
Kenshi
Soma probably, the characters in the story are just as delusional about their situation as the ones in the latter parts of the book. Especially after Jukka mutilates the main character.
There definitely are not enough games that at all approach the topic, let alone explore it at the lengths Blindsight had. Most only skim the surface in passing.
Is there a vidya equilant of either of these? >Group of 5 travelling to the end of the world to find a magical meguffin >Some "helpless cripple" has to somehow manage to defend a city from a siege with very limited resources and frickery from his allies.
For the later I can think of the last spell but I can't think of one for the former.
You know he was right >God smiles on results
I loved the last arguments of kings for the kino that was the bloody nine vs the feared and Bayaz and the eaters.
Stormlight Archive is very easy to get into and anime as frick. It's poorly written and reads like a shounen manga, but it's supremely entertaining. Kaladin's parts are the best
A song of Ice and Fire is very entry level and easy to read with each chapter starting in the middle of something and ending with a cliffhanger and with the exception of Sansa and Sam all the PoV characters are intresting to read.
I'd also recommend the first law series since in terms of PoV characters it's stronger than ASOIAF and the first two trillogies have been finished. Though in terms of world building it's quite weak I don't recall any of the books ever coming out with a map to show what the world actually looks like.
If you actually start reading books you'll find out fantasy stories are boring for the most part. Trust me on this one: go for the classics, don't mind the genre. You'll start to grow your own taste and preferences for genres/writers as you go on.
>I loved The Plague, but hated The Stranger
Good to know. I've been recommended The Plague several times but never read it since I didn't really care for The Stranger outside of a few parts. Maybe I'll actually check it out then.
I want to start reading books, what are some good fantasy books to start? Off topic Ganker is the best place to get a recommendation
Hard agree with
If you actually start reading books you'll find out fantasy stories are boring for the most part. Trust me on this one: go for the classics, don't mind the genre. You'll start to grow your own taste and preferences for genres/writers as you go on.
on this. I don't look down on "genre" books or anything, but the genre is pretty uninteresting and repetitive outside of the uber-famous and well regarded books. If it gets you into the activity of reading then that's great, but I do think that if you only read one style you're really missing out on what the medium can offer. Not that you necessarily would do that, but it's a trap many people fall into. Anyway if you want good fantasy check out The Hobbit and LotR, ASOIAF if it seems up your alley. Never read any of the Book of the New Sun books but plenty of people who's taste I respect like them. A Canticle for Leibowitz is the best scifi book I've ever read, not fantasy but I'll shill it any chance I get.
This, I used to be a genreshitter, then I read some classic gothic fiction and the greeks, now I physically cannot read a fantasy book (with very, very few exceptions).
Margaret Weiss's Dragonlance books range from okay (Dragonlance Chronicles), to excellent (Dragonlance legends) to complete ass (War of Souls), even so, I'd recommend them for being some solid generic fantasy. Those books probably started more fantasy tropes (both good and bad) than you may realize.
The Discworld novels are excellent up until you begin to see Terry's Alzheimer's really start to effect him. The series features both interconnected novels and standalone novels. For sake of ease of entry I'd recommend either starting with the first book (The Colour of Magic), or with Guards! Guards!.
For obvious reasons you should read Tolkein. Start with the Hobbit, then read Lord of the Rings. You can ignore The Silmarillion unless you really really want to read it.
The Wheel of Time is good if you can stomach how slow it is. And I mean fricking slow, it takes 3 1000 page books to really start going, but when it is good, it is fricking good.
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant is a bizarre series that I am having a hard time describing. The short of the long of it is that it is about a dude with leprosy who gets isekai'd and the first thing he does is rape one of the inhabitants, but yeah, also the chosen one to save the world and shit. I'm describing it flippantly, but it genuinely has some of the best writing I've seen in a fantasy novel. The series began publication in the 70s and only recently finished up. It is completely unadaptable for many reasons.
Of Brandon Sanderson's works, I would generally recommend the Mistborn stuff. I dunno if it was just me, but I found the stormlight archives to be pretty bad, I very seldom fail to finish a book, but I couldn't even make it through the first one in the series.
The Hobbit, of course
A wonderfully charming novel, very easy to read, charming characters and every emotion from joy to despair, heroism and cowardice and the perfect classic character arc, the triumph in the soul of kindness over pride and evil
Just start with Tolkien. There's not much good fantasy but have a frame of reference that isn't just being genreslop. After that read the Hyperion Cantos or something.
I personally ask chatgpt like this. I give him some keywords, and I usually get some cool recs. If one piques my interest then I go to goodreads and skim through the reviews
Anon from south america here. My language is spanish, and I tried to read this untranslated a few years ago but gave up probably 3 or 4 chapters in.
Maybe it's autism playing tricks on me, but it seems like one of those books you HAVE to read and digest in their own language, so I blatantly refuse to touch the spanish edition. Is it worth it?
Yes, the language is supremely beautiful. Also read Moby-Dick and Paradise Lost
I think that book is so influential that you don't even see the influence it has in media.
I like Fahrenhet 951 (or 450 or whatever, frick google) better tho
Anon from south america here. My language is spanish, and I tried to read this untranslated a few years ago but gave up probably 3 or 4 chapters in.
Maybe it's autism playing tricks on me, but it seems like one of those books you HAVE to read and digest in their own language, so I blatantly refuse to touch the spanish edition. Is it worth it?
I don't get how anyone can tolerate this Black person's writing style for more than a few pages. Every single paragraph is a page and a half long because not using punctuation is 2deep4u or whatever.
it's just his style like describing characters in needless attention to detail like describing just how sweaty someone's mustache is or how pimply their skin is or just how murderous they're feeling that day
doesn't writing like this make it really easy and pleasant to read doesn't it make you feel superior to read something that has worse grammar than what a second grader could do
now watch mccarthydrones call me filtered
Some newly overrated piece of shit that no one had ever heard of until it started getting brought up incessantly on Ganker the last 5 years? Kings Field I guess .
ok mccarthy is still technically readable, joyce is legitimately incomprehensible >bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!
Roblox TWW because while it's not as realistic or violent as BM the game really evokes the feeling of a violent, lawless place where people steal everything from each other.
>Are audiobooks a good alternative?
I know many people listen to audiobooks when they drive a car or walk the dog or ride a bicycle but for me it's too distracting from the book. If I'd listen to an audiobook I would literally just sit and listen without doing anything else. But in this case why not consume it the way it was intended?
> Where can you pirate them?
Good question though.
>Are audiobooks a good alternative?
I know many people listen to audiobooks when they drive a car or walk the dog or ride a bicycle but for me it's too distracting from the book. If I'd listen to an audiobook I would literally just sit and listen without doing anything else. But in this case why not consume it the way it was intended?
> Where can you pirate them?
Good question though.
>Where can you pirate them?
Depending on how popular the book is you can just find the audiobook reuploaded in parts on youtube and if it's not there just search the name of the book + Audiobook + free and you'll just find it there on some site.
No, it was something to describe the environments, but I don't remember what it was. I suppose it can't be that overused if it didn't stick out enough for me to actually remember it, I just remember the last time I read it I saw whatever that word was and thinking it was being used a lot. I think it might have been "remote".
No, it was something to describe the environments, but I don't remember what it was. I suppose it can't be that overused if it didn't stick out enough for me to actually remember it, I just remember the last time I read it I saw whatever that word was and thinking it was being used a lot. I think it might have been "remote".
he also loves describing things using an egg
as a metaphor
that's perfectly fair they weren't all warriors. It just does a disservice to everyone to present it like none of them were and only white people were doing terrible things. Really lame Natives just accept the victim status too.
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Based there is absolutely no prettying up the Commanche hahaha
I picked it up at the recommendation of a lit thread on /k/ and it surprised me. the Commanche went from stone age nobodies relegated to the shittiest hunting grounds in Wyoming, to the richest tribe all while violently dunking on any other tribe that stood in their way and some that didn't.
It's not really a book about cowboys or being American or anything. It's just about senseless murder and why people do it. It's even more poignant if you live in a third world cesspit where that shit still happens on the daily tbh.
Probably something like Pathologic 2
Why is this always the go to answer for anything high fuluten in gaming? Not everything cerebral is Path.
>both center around themes of the futility of pushing against higher powers and the cruelty of mankind
>both are notorious for a level of cruelty and violence beyond the norms of their mediums
>both have that whole "is this a real person or a physical manifestation of some greater, malevolent force that's intrinsic to nature itself" thing going on
>both famously have reputations of more people talking about them than actually reading/playing them
idk I think it's a fair comparison. Not 1:1 but not really a stretch either.
is pathologic THAT violent ?
I mean in terms of the violence that it deals with. Most games won't even touch on child death. Pathologic not only revolves heavily around a bunch of kids dying, but you can straight up just murder kids in the street. Similarly, if you don't manage to salvage your reputation you'll end up running around killing civilians and harvesting their organs for the black market. So yeah, in terms of the "content" of the violence it's much more than most games' "kill the baddies".
It can be. In my first playthrough I was starving and was completely out of resources. If I didn't raid a home I was going to die. I get inside this innocent persons home and start rummaging and the owner catches me and attacks me. I kill him, start going through his shit, and then his kid starts attacking me. The game put me in a situation where if I didn't kill a child I would have died. No other game I've played has the balls to make that situation a possibility. And then you can go even further and harvest their organs to sell later. This stuff is made even more poignant because the death system actually punishes you so you are geniunely afraid of dying. I don't think I would have done any of that fricked up shit if the game just let me die as many times as I wanted without consequences like in other games.
Also, I think it could have been way more violent but reality its low budget slavjank. The opening of the game has you ripping a mans heart out and seeing people get burned alive.
>Collect organs of healthy children during a mystical steppe pandemic
>Tomorrow you need to harvest more in a frantic race to invent a panacea
>In seeking redemption for the town, the main character loses himself in what would commonly be seen as psychotic barbarism
Alternatively just pawn of a child's kidney so you can afford a can of tuna.
It's incredibly graphic in subject matter but it doesn't really show that much. Like, you can kill a guy and rip out his organs to sell, but there's no animation for it or anything, just a menu
highfalutin is one word
Why does McCarthy writes like a moron who doesn't know what punctuation is ?
>Why does McCarthy writes like a moron who doesn't know what punctuation is ?
Because that's exactly what he is.
90% of people shitposting about Blood Meridian haven't read it, and the 10% that have are violently autistic.
It is a terrible fricking story, and the only reason it has any traction at all is because the hecking based and tradpilled horrortuber made a video about it, which means it's the best story ever written.
Oh god, BM and Cormac have been very popular for years. He was more than one film adaption.
Come on, whenever anyone brought up McCarthy prior to two months ago, they were either talking about No Country for Old Men, or The Border Trilogy.
But coincidentally, after some inbred hillbilly makes a video about what a wonderful masterpiece it is, everyone suddenly decides that Blood Meridian was actually a well-known classic epic, and masterpiece of American literature.
Spoilers, it's not.
Blood Meridian sucked in 1985, and it sucks now. It was an early piece of work from an author who would later go on to great things, and even then, Cormack McCarthy is most well known because someone made a film adaptation that was better than his book. The only reason I stomached through the book in High School is because a fricking hurricane the town I was staying in, and Blood Meridian was one of three books that was in the cabin I was staying in.
You are a moron. BM is one of the historical big 3 meme books and has been discussed ad nauseum on this site since Ganker was created. It is one of the most widely acclaimed and popular works of US literature ever written.
>M is one of the historical big 3 meme books and has been discussed ad nauseum on this site since Ganker was created.
Exactly. It's fricking trash, and nobody talks about it
.... you're a special kind of moron aren't you. BM has only been compared to Lord of the Fricking Rings so far in this thread. People even know subconsciously that it's a great piece of literature. People talk about it constantly. McCarthy drops Black person like it grows on the side of the road and Oprah, queen Black person herself, invites him on broadcast television to suck his dick. To say no one talks about BM is a dumdum thing to say.
I suspect you're upset that Ganker doesn't talk about whatever more ideologically acceptable (but no doubt less interesting) work you want them to talk about. I'm not even a big Blood Meridian guy because admittedly I haven't read it but these posts strike me as resentment that a book you perceive as right-wing is well-liked.
Whatever youtuber you're mad about, I've never heard of them, but I have seen people talk about Blood Meridian for a long time prior to their video. Perhaps you should consider finding a perennial topic on Ganker that you do like.
He was interviewed on Oprah's show and is seen as a fairly popular writer. Evidently not on par with Stephen King. But if you're actively into books, you probably read one of his at some point.
It's in the meme trilogy BECAUSE it is overdiscussed you fricking idiot.
>or The Border Trilogy.
I have literally never seen discussion on even just All the Pretty Horses here outside of people bringing it up in Blood Meridian or McCarthy threads on Ganker.
Not even mentioning The Road when discussing what McCarthy books people actually talk about already reflects poorly.
Your palpable outrage that youtube recommended you a Blood Meridian video is really funny as well.
>Come on, whenever anyone brought up McCarthy prior to two months ago, they were either talking about No Country for Old Men, or The Border Trilogy.
I don't even want to finish reading your post because of this completely wrong statement. Pretty much the entire reason I read that book is because I kept hearing about it a couple years ago.
i have only ever seen McCarthy brought up in the context of Blood Meridian. i didn't even know that Old Men was a originally a book until the day he died, let alone he'd written it. i've also never heard of the border trilogy.
>Cormac McCarthy is dead
frick
bruh just take the L and admit you're butthurt because wendigoon made a video about the book lmao
this homie tweakin
How many races were you born from?
chief i aint vibin with your incel energy, the linux thread is 2 threads down
I really don't know how anyone can actually read it and say that. The language alone spoiled me for other books. The descriptions and phrasing of landscapes and journies ruined other books for me. I just sort of shut down when other authors try to paint scenery. It's like a 8 year-old kid trying to describe their day at the fair.
Tolkien is still the unmatched king of painting a picture with words though.
t. has read seven books
Rude. I've read at LEAST 10.
But jokes aside, in my opinion he is, there are more descriptive writers, but Nike manage to do it and make it fun to read and with such finesse. His description of the Silmarils for example.
100 pages into LOTR and 80% of it was completely inconsequential shit like going into mind-numbing details about every single hobbit family in the shire and every problem each family has with another family. dropped it shortly after that.
I hate to say this but... Filtered. The preamble sets up the contrast of the story. From when the gang meets the elves it's full tilt.
>Yuck, this sandwich tastes like it has poop in it. I'm not finishing it.
>FRICKING SANDWICH FILTERED! Broz you have to eat the poop first before you get to the good part of the sandwich! I mean, there's still a little poop in that part but the taste underneath is THE BEST. As long as you just gag through it, it's a great sandwich. You are just a pallet-let.
It's just a book with a bit of a boring start, I don't think it's fair to make a comparison like this.
>World building at the very beginning of a series? This is fricking unreadable trash.
Black person, Tolkien admits he wrote all the way up to the Prancing Pony and then stopped because he didn't know what the story was doing. Strider was written as a completely different character at the time. He should have fricking rewritten the beginning. No amount homosexual basedjacks will change that
Admittedly, worldbuilding is an extremely overused strategy particularly when authors get extremely up their own ass about defining how magic works or how minerals are distributed in their world or whatever.
Tolkien doesn't do that, it's about the hobbits' culture and shit, but worldbuilding can certainly be unreadable trash and I think most people who set out to worldbuild instead of tell a good story have failed at the first hurdle
Tolkien was one of the first to actually set up a world that was living and breathing, and THEN make a story within it. I'm very fond of his care when telling me about the different cultures of Arda so I'm biased, but he was definitely unique at the time.
Yeah. I give him a pass because I -do- like his worldbuilding, and because he was effectively the first to do it, but at some point there's an established repertoire of fantasy tropes that don't need to be custom built by every author
Honestly Vance who I really like hardly worldbuilds at all in his stories but still manages to get the nature of the world across
I haven't read Vance, so I wouldn't know, but I made the initial post about Book of the New Sun, a trilogy that basically explains nothing and even misdirects the Reader on purpose using obtuse terminology, and I want to say that as much as I respect that, you're putting a lot of faith that the reader isn't a braindead mouth breather.
tolkien gets incredibly anal about irrelevant geography especially in the silmarillion
the only issue lotr has is pacing, the amount of times they stop to launch into singing or reminiscing at the wrong points is annoying
It's not worth reading 47 pages of some shit ass balad about a leaf every other chapter.
They're not that long.
Wouldn't really work as vidya.
The road, no contry for old men. He's pretty well known.
>zoomer youtuber makes a 5 hour video essay that permanently kills all discussion of BM on the internet forever
>mccarthy dies of cringe within the month
Frick this gay earth
dies of cringe within the month
lmao
>this
Its pretty shit.
The only good thing about it is the Judge.
>and the only reason it has any traction at all is because the hecking based and tradpilled horrortuber made a video about it, which means it's the best story ever written.
Never mind the countless papers written on it, entire courses devoted to study the man and his magnum opus, no, it's e-celebs!
You're a dumbass, anon.
Piss off, contraian.
You sound like a homosexual who's never been punched.
I took two literature classes in college. One was about science fiction and how it changed as a genre with political/technological advances in the west. The other was about Blood Meridian and how it changed fiction. The book was already canonized long before some dude posted a video essay about it. Is Goodfellas bad too because I can easily find a dozen video essays digesting it for the uninitiated?
Blood Meridian is more important than Goodfellas.
moot but also besides the piont
>moot
who?
you guys always wait until some random eceleb has made a video on something to shit on it and every single time it comes off more forced than the eceleb's end
>e the hecking based and tradpilled horrortuber made a video about it, which means it's the best story ever written.
Who? I never heard of that. Ganker is obsessed with this book and has been for years
I'm just glad to see something popular depict the natives as the rapacious blood cult savages that they were. Fricking tired of them constantly being depicted as victims.
If you want an honest take, it's a double-edged issue. We shouldn't have butchered them into oblivion and forced them to live in that methed up wasteland we call Oklahoma, but they should have seen an army of white men with boom sticks and smallpox blankets and thought "maybe we should stop killing every third child to appease the tree gods".
Yeah it just pisses me off when I'm watching a video about it and whenever the white men farm some Squantos for exp it's terrible and evil but when the natives attack a settlement and kill innocent people it's "daring and bold".
If you go to any book review site, there are people seething at this book for portraying the Commanche as insanely lethal fighters who enjoyed killing and fighting wars for spoils or revenge as opposed to muh noble savage
>Commanche as insanely lethal fighters who enjoyed killing and fighting wars for spoils or revenge
Why can't modern native Americans be like that?
I'm not an American but that sounds cool and would be interesting to see them wrec havoc in United States.
Closest I've seen to that was a few episodes of Banshee.
Too busy gambling/committing suicide
>Why can't modern native Americans be like that?
Because they live in shitty reservations under poor living conditions, nobody remembers their culture or respects them, so they're just scamming whitey out of money at the casinos instead
It's like asking why nordics can't be like vikings anymore
And yet the guys who weren't even here to begin with get more respect.
Ah shit I put the image in the wrong post
An incomplete list of horrible shit you can do in this game. Remember, no killable human NPCs so any human stuff is other players.
>Lure wild animals to the main city to frick shit up, including bears, bison, and gators
>Kidnap a guy and tie him up in a cell in a fort while you do whatever you so please with him
>Just generally mugging people
>Hack people to death with a machete
>Poison people with darts or arrows
>Blow up people with dynamite suicide bombings
>Drown dudes to death
>Kill someone with an tomahawk
>Straight up tie someone to the train tracks
It can go from treasure hunting with combat to straight up mass-terror simulator really really fast
Not a soul was right in the head in the Old West
They are depicted in both ways in BM
I feel the problem is that people need to constantly glorify something instead of realizing that literally everyone in a conflict is a piece of shit
>"Hard men make hard times. I've seen the meanness of humans till I don't know why god ain't put out the sun and gone away"
that's perfectly fair they weren't all warriors. It just does a disservice to everyone to present it like none of them were and only white people were doing terrible things. Really lame Natives just accept the victim status too.
Based there is absolutely no prettying up the Commanche hahaha
nativxs lived in harmony until whites showed up to teach them war and rape
I have no idea what you're talking about
They hated him for speaking the truth
t. troony
bait or not, kys homosexual
He evolved past needing it. Imagine anyone else doing that and any moron b***hing about it just gets side eyes. Picasso knew the rules of composition and perspective better than most masters and so he knew how to break them in an intuitive and nuanced way. McCarthy is the same. If you're too much of dirt-eating Black person boob to understand that I don't know how to explain it to you.
>no you see it's annoying as frick and sounds like I'm reading a 6 years old on PURPOSE
even boomers can be autistic "look at me i'm so unique and speshul" snowflakes
Boy oh boy I can't wait to check out this thread to see some utterly midwit posts
Damn that was quick
Now post what other books you've read, buddy.
I dunno, that'd take a while. Recently I've read some Calasso's The Ruin of Kasch, Gogol, a re-read of Tristram Shandy, Gormenghast, Brian Evenson's latest short story collection, the latest two Strugatsky novels that have been translated, Nostromo, and Charles Nicholl's book on Christopher Marlowe.
>muh puntuation!!!!
filtered
Not disrespecting the man himself, RIP, but I think his stories are generally terrible. They could be the textbook definition of pretentious.
How are they pretentious? They have potent imagery, touch on exactly what they're meant to discuss and don't overstay their welcome.
It's many, many, many words and pages to say "People are evil". It doesn't try to expand on the point or philosophize on it, it just arrives at that singular point but takes forever to do it. Pretentiousness is trying to affect a sense of intellectual superiority or deeper understanding than others, and that's exactly what most of his works are. Yes, killing people is bad. No one doesn't know this. Yes, the Judge represents people being evil. We don't need several hundred pages and repeat paragraphs with archaic or foreign words saying that to get the point.
not him but arent all pieces of media like this
No, a lot of them just pretend to have a story to show you dinosaurs or something.
It's honestly 50/50
I guess so ultimately, but not all pieces of media claim to be something they aren't. Granted Cormac seemed much more humble than his fans, who truly take it to the extreme, but there's still an air of smug pretentiousness to his writings I think.
Nah, there's this interview released around December last year that I think is Corncob's last public appearance and he refuses to call mathematics the language of truth, implying with what little his already half-gone mind can muster that everything is just language and we're shit at communicating. Plus he made his wife work for him while he NEETed it up writing his books. He's not a humble man in the least.
There's this one story about Flannery O'Connor meeting some lit professor that tried to boil down everything to "le point" with a character that's actually eerily similar to The Judge and just completely avoiding every one of his questions. The exploration of language and period and people isn't something that boils down to a moral story like you were still five and watching Disney films. You're projecting your own infantilized mind to a medium that's genuinely too smart for you and crying a trisyllabic insult when it refuses to knee the same way everything else in culture has to meet your little man demands.
>everything is meaningless!
brave
This is what happens when you take le moral pill tbh. You become thoroughly incapable of devising the world in anything but single-sentence parables.
What a dreadful way to experience life.
>im smarter than u
brave
Yes. But you can get smarter too if you read some books.
readings gay and ur a pretentious gay
>loves nihilism
>posts anime
You are on the spectrum, without a doubt.
Everyone on the board is, what are you on about?
>The exploration of language and period and people isn't something that boils down to a moral story like you were still five and watching Disney films
What is it then? Because from where I'm sitting that's absolutely the case. It's many flowery words and nonstop, semi-coherent rambling to arrive at an extremely basic point, because ultimately our minds fixate on extremely basic concepts. We can only think and come up with so much before we hit a hard limit, like how we can't come up with more colors than what we currently have.
It's not just Cormac either, I feel the same way about a lot of supposedly "great and deep" books like Moby Dick. I think it's pretentious tripe. While I agree that it's not a good idea to immediately boil everything down to the simplest possible conclusion, i.e. the only point of the entire story is *basic moral concept*, I think it's very easy and much more common that things are overanalyzed and given importance or depth where there simply isn't any.
Try processing the words for what they represent, not the words themselves. That is to say, actually use your head to think about the scenes being described, the actions taking place and the characters making them happen. Paint the book in your own way while reading it and "get" what you want out of it, but only AFTER consuming it appropriately. Moby Dick isn't about le revenge or the indomitable majesty of nature (AKA God AKA a white whale, an animal smarter than a man, AKA whatever), it's about a homoerotic trip to hell with a bunch of Black folk and irish homosexuals on a sweaty and salty ship. Etc.
That's if you want. There's genuinely no point to fiction other than experiencing those different lives through those authors and relating to them in your own tiny ways. Though the strengths of Corncob are best shown when you actually process his prose for what it's trying to say. Every sentence has its own meaning, that's the charm.
Whales aren't smarter than humans! That's factually incorrect!
I think it's VtM Bloodlines
Everything is bleak, kind of hopeless, there's fear in the air and plenty of biblical tier horrors, also it's god tier and it too filters morons through the exposition (outdated graphics in VtMB's case, just like Cormac's writing style filters morons like )
>outdated graphics
and also shitty combat
I really stand by it, the more I think about it the more I believe VtMB is the vidya equivalent of Blood Meridian. They also both have blood in their names
vtmb is NOT fricking god tier by any means
Filtered
>Why does McCarthy writes
at least make sure others can't tell you're an ESL third worlder before shitting on English literature lmao
red dead redemption 2
the vidya equivalent would have to be a masterpiece that doesn't get the attention it deserves, largely unnoticed by the masses, something challenging
The Void or Pathologic like the other Anon said, or maybe Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee, LOOM, Riven, Cosmology of Kyoto. idk I'm just some fricking guy
>hat doesn't get the attention it deserves
please, BM is an high school read. Everyone knows about it
never heard of a high school requiring BM as a read due to how graphic it is
>BM is an high school read
moron
You must have skipped it
>the vidya equivalent would have to be a masterpiece that doesn't get the attention it deserves
This is easily one of the most shilled books of all time and I see it talked about outside of here a lot. The frick are you talking about.
La-Mulana
Xenogears? I hesitate to call that a masterpiece though. But the plot is very ambitious.
Blood Meridian is a popular novel. A challenging masterpiece that's actually obscure would be something like Moby-Dick during Melville's life
>the vidya equivalent would have to be a masterpiece that doesn't get the attention it deserves, largely unnoticed by the masses, something challenging
Grim Fandango
Probably Pathologic
What's the vidya equivalent?
Caves of Qud, Kenshi. the former specifically is heavily inspired by its Dying Earth setting and has quite a few references to BotNS
That's fanart of Qud? Shit, I wish that type of game had artwork like this inside instead of that barebones pixel art type of look
I lost interest in CoQ when it turns out that its not actually the devs being creative, they are literally schizo trannies and furries, the concepts and ideas are nonsense and contradictory, and not by design, but because they are terrible writers and sometimes the mad scrawling makes sense to the rational.
>it turns out that its not actually the devs being creative, they are literally schizo trannies and furries
These aren't mutually exclusive, in fact they are often linked.
Mmm this anon has good taste. I own two first edition copies of TSoTT. I don't think any vidya comes close.
I'm gonna eventually cave and buy the 200 dollar folio society edition because I can't for the love of good find good hardcovers of the book here.
I understand the pain of desiring only hardcovers. I got extremely lucky and got my two copies from a charity shop. One is missing the dust cover though, very sad.
This is one of the only books I would genuinely call unadaptable.
Blood Meridian would work as a mini series, the only issue is censors. BotNS on the other hand is built around unreliable narration that only works without visuals.
>Severian be like: I'm a scholar
>mistakes animal husbandry for actually taking animals as wives
House of leaves is still the most unadaptable book
This is true, but I'd argue that the Familiar is even more unadaptable.
soulsshit. Great reading though, I need to move to the secondo
I'm on the last 3 chapters of Citadel
It's been a ride - interested how different the second read through is
>mfw aliens did it
Well, very different, I noticed a lot of details in the second read, especially shit that was cursory, like Thrax being a giant hydroelectric dam.
Black Souls. I didn't know pulling off an unreliable narrator in a video game was even possible
>zoomer hasn't played ff7
booklet here the only series i have ever bothered to finish is Dune what should I attempt to read next
Messiah was the best one
Let's see... After dune I think you should try The Foundation from Philip K. Dick.
If you want fantasy, Game of Thrones is good. If you want a classic, Frankenstein holds up well. If you want sci-fi, Player of Games is cool.
Dune II
>“Men are born for games. Nothing else.”
Blood Meridian is a gamer’s bible.
pathologic obv
been reading through this and really enjoying it. it's aged extremely well but for some reason no one seems to talk about how much of a satire of the genre it is. fun fact the Atlas Earth lead devs claim to be inspired by works like Snow Crash, Ready Player One and Scott Pilgrim which explains a lot lol
>Atlas Earth
That one stupid fricking mobile game with zoomer Luigi in the ads?
Also, yeah, Snow Crash is cool, but it's almost TOO "haha cyberpunk amiright?"
I thought it was pretty obvious when crypto Luigi said "it's about to go nuts"
if it had only been snow crash and scott pilgrim i'd be in but if they really added ready player one to that then i'm gonna have to pass, one of the worst books i've ever read
>but for some reason no one seems to talk about how much of a satire of the genre it is.
Because no one has read it. It’s also post-cyberpunk.
>villain’s goal is to take over the West by importing millions of brainwashed refugees
Aged well for sure
None because video games aren't art. No videogame can hold a candle to the literary masterpieces.
Wrong, Disco Elysium exists.
But Blood Meridian is not a masterpiece.
Except it is
>hahaha wow, I found this thread again on Ganker! It's about Blood Meridian! Again! Fifty times a day posting the same actor lists, the same quotes, the same replies!
>I know!
>I will post this Blood Meridian thread.................on Ganker this time!
Ganker is a bot testing board. 90% of it is bots repeating the same threads constantly
Except for the avatar countdown guy.
that absolutely was a bot. the only thing that changed was how many days were left until a date in the future
I don't get why all of a sudden this got so much attention, I'm reading it now because some gay said this might be the greatest American novel or whatever, and because it's supposedly too disturbing to read.
Really all it has going for it is that it's disturbing and graphic and the judges ramblings I suppose, but the style of writing and the constant painting landscapes with words is so fricking boring after the first 10 times
Honestly
Oregon Trail. The amount of player win/lose is probably the lowest of any other game to have existed.
For anons who've actually read the books, do you recommend it? I've read Cormacs popular works like The Road but hadn't heard about Blood Meridian till I got the Youtube vid recommendation.
The Road is very good but Blood Meridian is an all time great. Read it but don't watch that fricking video.
Thank you based anons. It's now very high on my list to read. Or maybe audiobook if anyone has a recommendation?
Try it and form your own opinion. The narrative gets established like 7-8 chapters in but for most part the book just follows a bunch of borderline moronic psychopaths, led/trailed/opposed by some kind of supernatural pedophile psychopath as they kill people in the desert in very gruesome ways, occasionally stepping outside the desert to kill different people in different but still very gruesome ways. Some of the chapters have really beautiful and evocative writing, also don't fall for the punctuation meme, the sentence structure follows a very natural rhythm. Faulkner is much more annoying to deal with when it comes to punctuation but you don't see anyone shitposting about him cause Blood Meridian adaptations have become a Ganker meme and everyone's turned contrarian on it at this point
Yes. If you liked his other works, you're already familiar with the shortcomings.
I'm rereading it a second time because I liked it and want to get more out of it on a second reading. Memes aside and people being angry some youtuber making a video on it it's pretty good. I've only watched No Country for Old Men (excellent movie) and The Road (good movie) but if they're faithful to their respect books as much as a movie can be and you like them you'd probably like Blood Meridian. It's an interesting story and it being loosely based off real people and events adds to it.
I'm late but yes, and I haven't seen this youtuber homosexual's analysis video that anons are whining about either
Bear in mind that the entire middle section of the book consists of
>the gang rode into the town
>the gang got drunk and slaughtered everyone
>they rode on
over and over, which you might find to be a slog
Just remember, it's based on a real gang and is a true story
>what right man would have it any other way?
Disco Elysium.
oh my fauci, do this while listening to jefre cantu-ledesma in the queue for the vasectomy booth at the vaush convention
i don't know what any of your post means and i assume you got it all from browsing places like twitter. you need to go back
>C’MON HONEY PUSH! PUSH! YOU CAN DO THIS! I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THAT BEAUTIFUL DUSKY FACE LOOKING AT ME!
>C’MON LITTLE YAKUB! YES! YES! I CAN SEE IT! IT’S, IT’S
>...
>what
>What?
>WHAT. THE. LE. ACTUAL. FRICK.
Smashes SteamDeck running disco elysium against wall in fit of anger
>THIS IS A WHTE BABY! WHAT THE FRICK! YOU b***h! YOU LYING FRICKING c**t THIS IS A WHTE BABY WHAT THE FRICK HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO SLEEP WITH TYRONE!!!
>YOU SCOOPED UP SOME OF MY CUM DROPS?! BECAUSE YOU WANTED A CHILD WITH THE MAN YOU LOVE? YOU TREACHEROUS NAZI ALT RIGHT INCEL c**t!!!! I KNEW I SHOULD OF GOTTEN THAT VASECTOMY AT THE DISCO ELYSIUM BOOTH AT THE VAUSH CONVENTION!!! I THOUGHT IT WAS SUSPICIOUS THAT YOU ARGUED AGAINST IT BUT I FIGURED IT WAS FINE BECAUSE I NEVER HAD SEX WITH YOU!!! I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D STAB ME IN THE BACK LIKE THIS!!!
>WHAT DID I TELL YOU LAST YEAR AT THE DISCO ELYSIUM CONVENTION? I'M THE MOD OF HECKING /r/antinatalism! HOW THE FRICK AM I SUPPOSED TO BE THE REVOLUTIONARY VANGUARD IF MY INCEL REACTIONARY c**t WIFE POPPED A FRICKING LAUGHING BOUNCING WHITEOID CHUD NAZI INCEL BABY OUT OF HER c**t!!!
>OH MY SCIENCE, I’M RUINED!!! YOU’VE RUINED ME YOU STUPID TWAT!!! MY WIFE GAVE BIRTH TO A WHTE BABY!!! AND A BOY TOO!!! IF IT WAS A WHTE GIRL I COULD AT LEAST LOOK FORWARD TO GIVING HER UP TO TYRONE ONCE SHE STARTED MENSTRUATING BUT I CANT DO THAT WITH A WHTE BOY NOW CAN I??? IM GONNA BE THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF THE KEKOLD COMMUNITY NOW!!! THEIR GONNA THINK IM A FRICKING NAZI RETHUGLICAN NOW!!! THIS IS THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!
>GIVE ME THAT NAZI WHTE BABY RIGHT NOW IM GONNA BREAK ITS FRICKING NECK!!!! I’M GONNA SMASH THAT WHTE FRICKING BABYS FRICKING SKULL UNDERNEATH MY MY RICK AND MORTY FLIPFLOPS!!!! GIVE IT TO ME YOU LYING NAZI c**t OR ILL CUT YOU A NEW HOLE IN YOUR FRICKING THROAT!!! GIVE IT TO ME YOU b***h GIVE IT GIVE IT GIVE IT!!!!! IN THE NAME OF JEFRE CANTU-LEDESMA I'M GOING TO FRICKING KILL IT!
Disco Elysium is like the No Longer Human of videogames and that's only if you play it in a very particular way.
>No Longer Human
Both were mad by commies
I thought No Longer Human was a "he's literally me" book going into it so I was shocked by how much sex he has.
only western game I know of allowing you to collect scalps
Theres not really any point to it, but its cool that they let you do it anyway
Mental Omega
Rust. Cormac McCarthy would have a blast writing out what motivates Rust players to commit the atrocities they do.
>Earthbound fan excited to play it for the first time
What a weird generation.
I doubt that redditor is even capable of reading an entire moderately-long book in the first place.
The Right Opinion should be in this image. 2 fricking hour essays about petty drama fricking nobody cares about, it's the most white pypo shit i've ever seen.
What's the difference between a review and a video essay?
A video essay is more about the personal feelings of someone on a particular subject, while a review is a lot more logical/factual.
A video essay is a narration of the whole product word by word and second by second with midwit opinions interjected, a review is just a summary or an advertisement*
video essays are a perfect replacement for having the TV turned on while you do other things
underrated reply
as someone who 100 pages in
also the long dark and the last of us pt2, to a stretch
start with the Greeks
Earthbound
>all these morons with bog standard tastes who somehow convinced themselves that BM is niche
What's the vidya equivalent?
What's the most boring, inconsequential game you've ever played, that also made you feel like shit?
horizon zero dawn
god of war
ohmy, world classiquie literatura is on par with design by commitee soulless trash
Oh, it's Death Stranding
Wrong.
any long ass game that suck or gow ragnarok
Eating some lil cracker really got him to write all this?
Being french did
Manhunt 2
Beat me to it.
elaborate
No.
Nothing can compare to written work that isnt vidya. Only Ghost of Taushima came that close.
In terms of being part of a roaming band of lunatics, psychos, and rapists, the Mount & Blade series.
>Vast open world filled with violent gangs, tribes and dangerous wildlife
>If you're alone or weak you'll get jumped and left for dead in the desert
>The only way to survive is strength in numbers
Kenshi
Vidya equivalent of this one?
Soma probably, the characters in the story are just as delusional about their situation as the ones in the latter parts of the book. Especially after Jukka mutilates the main character.
That's what I was thinking as well. Although Soma talks about consciousness upload, not the benefits of consciousness itself
There definitely are not enough games that at all approach the topic, let alone explore it at the lengths Blindsight had. Most only skim the surface in passing.
It's the Mortal Kombat of the literary world. Shocking brutality and... that's it.
Mortal combat is also a good fighting game.
Do you need more, you pretentious monkey?
A string of insights leading to the creation of the perfect society. How dark the abyss gets is worth only so much of my time.
What is the vidya equivalent?
Shadow the Hedgehog
Life is Strange
Any game where the MC is unlikeable
Persona
GUN... You basically spend the entire game shooting natives
Is there a vidya equilant of either of these?
>Group of 5 travelling to the end of the world to find a magical meguffin
>Some "helpless cripple" has to somehow manage to defend a city from a siege with very limited resources and frickery from his allies.
For the later I can think of the last spell but I can't think of one for the former.
Read that book series
Man
Frick wizards
You know he was right
>God smiles on results
I loved the last arguments of kings for the kino that was the bloody nine vs the feared and Bayaz and the eaters.
Is the series worth reading?
Yeah I liked it.
The characters are great and you can just listen to the audiobooks off of youtube and decide for yourself.
>just listen to the audiobooks
Thanks for telling me you opinion isn't worth shit.
What's your problem with audiobooks?
The narration is actually good with this one.
I want to start reading books, what are some good fantasy books to start? Off topic Ganker is the best place to get a recommendation
Stormlight Archive is very easy to get into and anime as frick. It's poorly written and reads like a shounen manga, but it's supremely entertaining. Kaladin's parts are the best
Discworld books are very good since they're actually enjoyable and funny
seconding Discworld. Read fthe first four, and if you can't enjoy it after that accept that you have been filtered.
A song of Ice and Fire is very entry level and easy to read with each chapter starting in the middle of something and ending with a cliffhanger and with the exception of Sansa and Sam all the PoV characters are intresting to read.
I'd also recommend the first law series since in terms of PoV characters it's stronger than ASOIAF and the first two trillogies have been finished. Though in terms of world building it's quite weak I don't recall any of the books ever coming out with a map to show what the world actually looks like.
If you actually start reading books you'll find out fantasy stories are boring for the most part. Trust me on this one: go for the classics, don't mind the genre. You'll start to grow your own taste and preferences for genres/writers as you go on.
>writers
This isn't necessarily a clear sign of whether you'll like the novel or not. I loved The Plague, but hated The Stranger
Never claimed such thing
>I loved The Plague, but hated The Stranger
Good to know. I've been recommended The Plague several times but never read it since I didn't really care for The Stranger outside of a few parts. Maybe I'll actually check it out then.
Hard agree with
on this. I don't look down on "genre" books or anything, but the genre is pretty uninteresting and repetitive outside of the uber-famous and well regarded books. If it gets you into the activity of reading then that's great, but I do think that if you only read one style you're really missing out on what the medium can offer. Not that you necessarily would do that, but it's a trap many people fall into. Anyway if you want good fantasy check out The Hobbit and LotR, ASOIAF if it seems up your alley. Never read any of the Book of the New Sun books but plenty of people who's taste I respect like them. A Canticle for Leibowitz is the best scifi book I've ever read, not fantasy but I'll shill it any chance I get.
This, I used to be a genreshitter, then I read some classic gothic fiction and the greeks, now I physically cannot read a fantasy book (with very, very few exceptions).
>classic gothic fiction
such as?
I think he means frankenstein and dracula and shit
The Black Company, but the series drops down in quality later on.
>I want to start reading books, what are some good fantasy
stopped reading
Strictly speaking, every fiction book is a fantasy.
>fiction
Read Fate Stay Night.
Margaret Weiss's Dragonlance books range from okay (Dragonlance Chronicles), to excellent (Dragonlance legends) to complete ass (War of Souls), even so, I'd recommend them for being some solid generic fantasy. Those books probably started more fantasy tropes (both good and bad) than you may realize.
The Discworld novels are excellent up until you begin to see Terry's Alzheimer's really start to effect him. The series features both interconnected novels and standalone novels. For sake of ease of entry I'd recommend either starting with the first book (The Colour of Magic), or with Guards! Guards!.
For obvious reasons you should read Tolkein. Start with the Hobbit, then read Lord of the Rings. You can ignore The Silmarillion unless you really really want to read it.
The Wheel of Time is good if you can stomach how slow it is. And I mean fricking slow, it takes 3 1000 page books to really start going, but when it is good, it is fricking good.
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant is a bizarre series that I am having a hard time describing. The short of the long of it is that it is about a dude with leprosy who gets isekai'd and the first thing he does is rape one of the inhabitants, but yeah, also the chosen one to save the world and shit. I'm describing it flippantly, but it genuinely has some of the best writing I've seen in a fantasy novel. The series began publication in the 70s and only recently finished up. It is completely unadaptable for many reasons.
Of Brandon Sanderson's works, I would generally recommend the Mistborn stuff. I dunno if it was just me, but I found the stormlight archives to be pretty bad, I very seldom fail to finish a book, but I couldn't even make it through the first one in the series.
The Hobbit, of course
A wonderfully charming novel, very easy to read, charming characters and every emotion from joy to despair, heroism and cowardice and the perfect classic character arc, the triumph in the soul of kindness over pride and evil
The Malazan Book of the Fallen. the first book, Gardens of the Moon, is deliberately obtuse to filter casuals, though.
Just start with Tolkien. There's not much good fantasy but have a frame of reference that isn't just being genreslop. After that read the Hyperion Cantos or something.
I personally ask chatgpt like this. I give him some keywords, and I usually get some cool recs. If one piques my interest then I go to goodreads and skim through the reviews
Any game that needs a wiki, a dictionary and a thesaurus to understand so probably some nip game.
>there is no vidya equivalent
Fallout new vegas. Why? Cowboys and desert
If we're trying to find vidya equivalents to books. Could somebody tell me if there is something like 1984?
Library of Ruina has a dystopian setting
Yes, the language is supremely beautiful. Also read Moby-Dick and Paradise Lost
I think that book is so influential that you don't even see the influence it has in media.
I like Fahrenhet 951 (or 450 or whatever, frick google) better tho
Anon from south america here. My language is spanish, and I tried to read this untranslated a few years ago but gave up probably 3 or 4 chapters in.
Maybe it's autism playing tricks on me, but it seems like one of those books you HAVE to read and digest in their own language, so I blatantly refuse to touch the spanish edition. Is it worth it?
Writing as an ESL myself, those who didn't read William Gibson's writings in original don't get what the whole cyberpunk thing is about.
Whats some good sci fi stuff? I'm running low on seinin manga atm.
Hyperion, Forever War, anything by Lem
What is the vidya equivalent?
Subnautica
I don't get how anyone can tolerate this Black person's writing style for more than a few pages. Every single paragraph is a page and a half long because not using punctuation is 2deep4u or whatever.
it's just his style like describing characters in needless attention to detail like describing just how sweaty someone's mustache is or how pimply their skin is or just how murderous they're feeling that day
doesn't writing like this make it really easy and pleasant to read doesn't it make you feel superior to read something that has worse grammar than what a second grader could do
now watch mccarthydrones call me filtered
Seethe.
What is the equivalent?
is it anything noteworthy beyond the edgy yee-haw dirlegang?
>dirlegang
With enough headcannon, Battle Brothers.
Also Darkest Dungeon.
Flowery language, pick up a few new words for your speech to pose as an intellectual.
TLOU2
there is no equivalents because video games are for toddlers
Books are for women and closeted homosexuals.
Damn, his stay in prison really must have changed him
Andrew Cake
is that really him?
that's his evil twin, bottom g
no way, unlike tate that guy actually has talent
>throws the phone
>hits the mirror, knocking it off the wall
>continues dancing
kino
Red Dead Redemption 2. You're called a moron if you don't like it, have issues with how it's structured, or think it's a bad story.
I dislike both but I would still say BM is miles better than RDR2.
I get your point though.
Weird West
>no mention of Child of God in the whole thread
man Blood Meridian had nothing on that book
He never sleeps. He says he'll never die.
For me it's ancient historical records and epics.
Cormac McCarthy was the last great American author. Idk if there is anyone right now who could be considered even close.
Pynchon
Some newly overrated piece of shit that no one had ever heard of until it started getting brought up incessantly on Ganker the last 5 years? Kings Field I guess .
>Kings Field I guess .
wtf why
I thought that was The Three-Body Problem?
What is the vidya equivalent?
Baba Is You
There's probably a story there, but no one knows what it is
>all these homies hating on joyce for being pretentious while at the same time praising mccarthy
ok mccarthy is still technically readable, joyce is legitimately incomprehensible
>bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!
Hey
I hate mccarthy too
there's a difference between not using proper punctuation like what I'm doing. Right now. And asnidatypinglikethisrandomly
Incoherent garbage that people put on a pedestal to claim to be smart?
Probably dark souls or something
Anything by David Cage
Anything with randomly generated levels
Cruelty Squad
Roblox TWW because while it's not as realistic or violent as BM the game really evokes the feeling of a violent, lawless place where people steal everything from each other.
I'm too lazy/stupid to read,
Are audiobooks a good alternative? Where can you pirate them?
>Are audiobooks a good alternative?
I know many people listen to audiobooks when they drive a car or walk the dog or ride a bicycle but for me it's too distracting from the book. If I'd listen to an audiobook I would literally just sit and listen without doing anything else. But in this case why not consume it the way it was intended?
> Where can you pirate them?
Good question though.
>Where can you pirate them?
Depending on how popular the book is you can just find the audiobook reuploaded in parts on youtube and if it's not there just search the name of the book + Audiobook + free and you'll just find it there on some site.
Lifeweb
who or what was the hermit /vlit/? just a crazy old hermit?
> not naming israelites
Ha, what a pussy.
No wonder that book is shilled everywhere.
Genuinely? Hotline Miami 2.
I'm reading this now. I like it so far. Though there's a word in it that feels overused but I forget what it is right now, I'm sure I'll see it again.
Was it spat? I feel like every other line of dialogue is preceded by "[name] spat and said"
No, it was something to describe the environments, but I don't remember what it was. I suppose it can't be that overused if it didn't stick out enough for me to actually remember it, I just remember the last time I read it I saw whatever that word was and thinking it was being used a lot. I think it might have been "remote".
he also loves describing things using an egg
as a metaphor
I picked it up at the recommendation of a lit thread on /k/ and it surprised me. the Commanche went from stone age nobodies relegated to the shittiest hunting grounds in Wyoming, to the richest tribe all while violently dunking on any other tribe that stood in their way and some that didn't.
>Ganker discusses literature
0/10
Ganker has better taste than Ganker
I feel like you have to be American to enjoy this book
It's not really a book about cowboys or being American or anything. It's just about senseless murder and why people do it. It's even more poignant if you live in a third world cesspit where that shit still happens on the daily tbh.
i dont recall of any games letting you lead a shit-eating moron around on a leash using him as a hound dog
in my headcanon the Judge is count Dracula
What is the vidya equivalent?
/pol/.wad
vidya equivalent?
Vidya equivalent?
Something really depressing
Overwatch 2 grandmaster cord
>amerimutt "literature"
It's just embarrassing at this point.
vidya equivalent?
GiRUGAMESH
GILGAMESH
>"They is four things that can destroy the earth, he said. Women, whiskey, money, and nintendogays."
what the FRICK did he mean by this?
totk really made me understand the hate nintendo fans got
these people man, these people...