1FM 2FM and 3RE are among the best action RPGs of all time. Fantastic mix of cheesey ridiculous plot that takes itself seriously and simple, flashy combat with fun bosses.
A series that showcases Nomura's strengths (character designs and character interactions/moments) and weaknesses (feeling a need to explain everything leading to abundant retcons and convoluted storytelling, the inability to let a story just sit on its own), and I think they're overall pretty good games. Some are stinkers on the gameplay side, some are shit on the story/characters side, but I don't think any single KH game isn't at least worth a look at in some regard. 3D is the one I'd rank the lowest, though.
I get that 2 had a great ending for Sora, Riku, and Kairi, but I don't get the idea of saying "It should've ended with 2."
You can't simultaneously say that Nobodies aren't "real" and thereby don't deserve to have their own lives while also having Sora be friends with fictional characters in a book or a computer program. Also, the plot of KH2 is choppy in a lot of places and doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The beginning and the major action moments in the middle and end of the game are nice, but everything between those three parts is pretty bad.
I liked KH1, got filtered by CoM, and really liked KH2. Haven't played the others.
I watched a ton of disney movies as a child so being an adult now it's kinda nice to revisit those worlds and reminds me of all the characters that I grew up with and enjoyed. Playing these games, for a fleeting moment, makes me remember how nice that part of my childhood was. Plus the art that came out of the series is great.
games with great gameplay and dumb stories that have turned into games with mediocre gameplay and fricking terrible stories. I don't know what fricking brain damage nomura has incurred but its genuinely turned me off the franchise
At first the Disney crossover felt like nice and blended with the story in general but as the games passed and the series started to build its own Identity the Disney shit has started to feel more lkie a hinderance than a jojyful addition.
And with the past enterviews I have no faith whatsoever on KHIV it will be a worse KHIII, and I hate they have to leave extremely important plot points into mobage kusoge.
Ohh, also frick KHII homosexuals, you ruin every conversation about the series.
>& Pete
Disagree. Maleficent's only good appearances are KH1 and BBS. One she's paired up with the obese moron she loses any threatening aura and becomes an unfunny joke.
>because morons like you
You mean Nomura, who wanted to and still wants to make a series where you visit Disney worlds. The games have been built up from day one on this concept.
Started the series with CoM GBA (had no PS2), obviously I had problems with the plot but by the end it was just cool to watch Axel and Marluxia do shit. Riku's scenario was just overall short but fun.
Once I got PS2, I played KH1 and KH2. KH1 is by far my favourite title in the series, I love almost everything about it and you can consider it as a standalone title if you just want to experience Squaresoft's JRPG in Disney worlds. Right after 100% KH1 I jumped into KH2, and man, Roxas' prologue was great... but then the main game with Sora starts, and it sucked (Mulan being the very first Disney world to visit is probably the poorest choice in entire series). Being vanilla KH2 and not FM, combat felt different and yet much easier (I think I only died in Pride Lands against ironball dinosaurs and in Beast's Castle against Xaldin, that's it for the whole game), and plot kinda went the shounen way instead of Disney movie-like. Also frick minigame galore in KH2. FM fixed many gameplay aspects for both KH1 and KH2, but KH2 got much bigger of an upgrade (probably because KH1 already had a lot in EN vanilla release).
Days was ok sidegame that didn't ruin the plot with how Xion disappeared, but then KH3 killed all the good will Days had.
Starting from BBS and DDD I mostly play the series for Shimomura's music and goofing around in Disney worlds, the plot is just JoJo now (and while Araki resets the party every part, Nomura drags everyone along from game to game) and gameplay is hit-or-miss with Tokyo team being dead and Osaka team getting their shit together only after KH3 DLC. I don't feel like investing another 20 years into the series after KH3 and X/UX disappointing me so hard. >tl;dr
I agree with post like and
Peaked with the first game. Slow and steady decline from that point onwards.
>I don't feel like investing another 20 years into the series
Too bad. XehaBlack person's story is very likely not over yet. He won't be a big bad, but he'll still have a big role.
1-358 have this specific "It's the mid 2000s, you're 12 years old, and currently in a Hot Topic store" sort of feel that can't be replicated.
There's also a strong emotional weight to the early games that outshines any of the sillier plot points. And the gameplay in 1 and are 2 great, and hold up very well. 1 has strong level design that cleverly incorporates your combat skills, and 2 is an incredibly tight action game.
As for the rest, I don't really care. BBS onwards is mediocre at best, and incredibly annoying to play at worst. With plot points that trample on the emotional weight of previous games, or just don't live up to the standards set in those early titles. KH3 was the culmination of this, with its plot being a pure schizophrenic nightmare of unparsable lore that's impossible to take seriously on any level. It did at least have decent gameplay compared to BBS and DDD.
I think it's generally pretty good and always at least a 7/10 on the first playthrough. There's also never been a decent competitor in the genre. Looking forward to KH4 more than any game other than Bomb Rush Cyberfunk
Only played 1 hour into 1. Grew up playing 2 but never beat it. 3 has moronic exposition with Toy Story and Frozen so not going into that. Basically: >1: cringe kino >2: kino >3: cringe
Honestly, KH3 was a lot of fun to play but its just way too easy. Nomura has a way to do something with his games that I can't really say I've seen it executed as well in other games but the payoff of the final cutscenes that show future events or something entirely different like the yozora shit makes playing them worth it imo
KH1 was fun and unique.
KH2 is just a button mash game and a slog to play through.
didn't play KH3 yet
Chain of memories mix was interesting but dropped it in the middle.
Is Birth by sleep worth playing?
>Chain of memories mix was interesting but dropped it in the middle.
Play the GBA version if you haven't. It plays/feels much better than the 3D version it's not even a joke.
BBS is fun but going through the same worlds three times can drag. Especially since the recommended order ends with Aqua aka the dullest plank of wood protagonist in the series.
>like the anime+light hearted/cartoonish tone >like exploring worlds based on public domain stories >like cross dimensional plot lines >like the fricking moronic ass plot >first game had best gameplay before every encounter had a gimmick and tried to be devil may cry >fantastic music >Frick the Disney shit. Only was good as tone inspiration and the original concept to make the game. Using OCs or Square owned properties would have made it one of the greatest series of all time. Instead its just a glorified licensed Mickie mouse game.
Sora, Mog and Frog traveling to a Tom Sawyer world > disney movie regurgitation shit.
I like how full moron it goes. But I don’t have to patience to play it. I could only get a third through the first one multiple times in the past decade.
i wonder how much square will bow down to disney considering 4 has star wars in the first trailer and that The Toy Story world in Kingdom Hearts III is canon to the Toy Story plot the starwars world might just be an ad for episode 10
Played literally ever single title including melody of memories. Mainline titles were played multiple times on Lv1 playthroughs. I played all titles at launch and have recently (past 2 or so years) replayed them.
>KH1 is great, only shortcoming is the combat being clunky and unbalanced >KH2 is unarguably the best in combat, story, and bosses >KH3 is actually really great, biggest shortfall was lack of difficulty and bosses at launch >DDD is a sleeper hit (no pun intended). Game is really good but most never had a 3DS and now people just skip it and claim they played it >BBS is basically KH2.5 in terms of gameplay. So it's really good. Problem is that it gets repetitive as you have to beat it 3 times to get the true ending. >Chain of Memories was okay for its time, but the card based gameplay is really annoying now >ReCoded, MoM, 365/2 days, ect. Can be skipped. Just watch the video summaries. As someone that has played them, please don't. You aren't missing out on anything.
>DDD is a sleeper hit (no pun intended). Game is really good but most never had a 3DS and now people just skip it and claim they played it >BBS is basically KH2.5 in terms of gameplay. So it's really good. Problem is that it gets repetitive as you have to beat it 3 times to get the true ending.
You are perfectly entitled to your opinion anon but these are some ass backward takes.
>DDD really good >skip Days and watch its shitty movie that misses 75% of the context >skip Re:Coded and miss out on the best Command Deck gameplay >doesn't even like CoM
Anon, please.
You know, I'm playing BBS right now and I was really looking forward to it because I remembered everyone felleating the game when it was on the PSP. Honestly? It's really lame and coming from KH2FM I don't have much of a motivation to even play it.
Re:Coded is funny, because it's basically the game that challenges the idea in KH2 the most directly.
>"Haha, why are you two risking your life for (Data Sora)? He's not even real!"
But then DDD has Sora basically realize all of the stuff Re:Coded builds towards offscreen by the time he meets Roxas again, so the game is even more pointless than it already feels to most people.
Kingdom hearts 1 and 2 (fm versions) are solid action rpgs that I had fun with.
I'm currently playing through the collection and BBS was a solid entry though not as fun as the main entries.
Chain of memories is so-so once you figure out how the card system works, at least they tried something new
Currently up to DDD in th 2.8 and I'm not having fun with it, maybe I'm just burnt out but I really don't like the flowmotion gameplay where sometimes you can just get stuck in a flowmotion animation from a simple dodge roll
Wasted potential. The idea was genuinely good on paper: SE was the king of RPGs at the time, and Disney has enough beloved characters to populate an entire city. Putting those two things together really wasn't a bad idea. The problem was letting the plot get so goddamn convoluted and focusing more on the kawaii bishie OCs instead of THE CHARACTERS EVERYONE ACTUALLY KNOWS AND LOVES AND CAME TO SEE. If I was in charge I would just toss it all out and start from scratch, after distracting Nomura with a 1000 yen note on a string.
>I don't mind the idea of focusing on the original characters,
No, frick you. It's just as bad as making a movie adaptation that focuses on a bunch of literally who humans and a shoehorned romance plot. If you watch a Transformers movie, you want to see Optimus Prime and Megatron and Starscream and all those guys, right? You didn't mortgage your house for a bucket of popcorn so you could see Shia LeBeouf awkwardly hit on Megan Fox, did you?
One of my favorite game series of all time even if a lot of the games are kinda meh and the story is pure shit at this point. Love the gameplay, music, nostalgia, characters, and exploring worlds.
Haven't played remind, but 2FM is unironically good gameplay wise and to beat the data fights you need to learn the mechanics. I though I could just wiz through them by spamming the attack command
I was into it until I realized KH3 had no Final Fantasy characters because they think they're too good for it anymore
Give Tidus some time in the spotlight, Black person. He's perfect for Kingdom Heart's wacky optimism bullshit, his backstory is 1:1 with worlds being destroyed/dreams/whatever, plus he could slap Sora's shit
We need a Kingdom Hearts game focused only on teenage drama/slice of life set on the Destiny Islands. With Sora, Kairi, Riku, Roxas, Xion and Namine.
Kinda like the first part of KH1, but just them focusing on their relationships, building boats, catching fish, sexual tension, competition between the boys, Kairi being a wienertease etc...
My favorite part of the games is just the characters actually interacting like in KH1 where Kairi was quite the vixen, the ice cream shit with Roxas and Xion and even in 3 for a moment it seemed that Sora and Kairi relationships was evolving and getting deeper until...he disappears for sequel bait reasons.
I hope that in KH4 we get to at least eat at restaurants with Sora, visit Shibuya and go shopping with Strelitzia
Firmly believe 358/2 days deserved a remake, preferably on the 3DS or Wii U something, but literally anything would have been nice. That it got relegated to an HD cutscene movie is a tragedy.
Also, DDD was a mistake. Who the frick looked at the pile of spaghetti that is the KH story and thought adding time travel was a good idea?
Nomura has this weird thing where he always seems to feel the need to explain things. DDD did a lot of retroactive explaining of certain things and mechanics, and from DDD onward there's been less retconning as a result, but it's still a fricking mess of a story because it introduced not only time travel, but EXTREMELY SPECIFIC RULES for time travel, that the series then goes ahead and ignores anyway when Merlin and Sora do it. Like, there's what seems to be "time travel you can do without breaking the laws of nature" which Xehanort and some people in KHUX do, and then there's "frick it do whatever" but that gets you banished out of reality unless you're a Disney character I guess.
As an addendum, I think KHUX's time travel rules it introduces (as in, going to the future) are more coherent than whatever Xehanort used, and they clearly built it around an existing instance of a character's revival (Maleficent coming back in 2) instead of just sort of hamfisting it in.
It's Nomura. He could pull some Kojimbo shit and make it so the entire Organization, all the people related to the MoM, as well as everyone in the keyblade war, are shadow bodies/descendents/alternate universe counterparts/different interpretations (Final Fantasy series style), etc, of a Sora who went to the past with some Reverseja time magic shit
It exacerbates the shift from the initial premise of the game being a crossover between Square Enix and Disney to a licensed Disney fan fic game where OC characters exist as a decoration and FF/TWEWY characters are purged out of existence. Like, how none of them are present in the loading screens in KH3. Who would want to play this trash series where Nomura can just get rid of things he doesn't like anymore and pretend they never existed?
Extremely unlikely. There'd be no reason to it. It's more likely he's Demyx or just somebody else entirely. The only reason he's probably Demyx is because Demyx is apparently linked to ancient Keyblade wielders and we just have NOTHING else on his past. Luxord we at least know is linked to Yozora.
FF characters were mostly just a semi relevant group in 1 and 2. They never had much of a presence. I'd love to have more of them or even a couple worlds based on SE games but I don't get why people are all upset that Nomura just now doesn't care about FF characters.
>semi-relevant
They're a core group in every single iconic area of the first couple games. Starting island? Half the island's characters are Final Fantasy. Radiant Garden? Final Fantasy. Strongest boss? Final Fantasy.
Every spell and the partial basis of most of Sora's various form changes. The leading characters in most of the most hype moments of the game (helping Sora get to the thousand heartless, the underworld coliseum, etc). It's also implied that all of Sora's childhood friends behind Riku and Kairi are Final Fantasy characters.
Aside from Donald and Goofy, Disney had less relevance than Final Fantasy in the first couple games' main plot. They just gave Mickey more screen time because Disney demands it.
Then you should play a superior game from Disney Japan and Aniplex where Disney stuff is relegated to being a reference and the main cast are delinquents loosely based on classic Disney villains.
Loved it as a kid, KH3 was very disappointing and I will be well nearing 40 by the time KH4 comes out, if they keep the same release schedule, so I would be too old to care.
The main numbered games are all at the very least good and enjoyable. BBS and DDD ruined the story entirely though. Not that it was ever an amazing story, but those two absolutely turned it into a mess.
BBS was great though sure it was basically star wars but it introduced backstory the series needed. DDD was complete shit and ruined everything though.
>it introduced backstory the series needed
It really didn't. The entire series would have functioned fine without anything in BBS. They very likely didn't even have the BBS shenanigans planned out until they realized how popular the series was.
They could have taken half the Final Fantasy stories about light vs dark and slotted in the Kingdom Hearts characters instead, ad infinitum with all the power scaling you can achieve via a plotline based around different worlds being canon
The story is convoluted but not particularly unique. The backstory wasn't necessarily. They could have just said KH1's beginning was all you needed to know and no one would have cared. Without it being talked about in a new game, the audience was more likely to care about how Sora's mom is doing on Destiny Island than all the shit about the previous keyblade wielders talking to the main cast
I fricking love it. I played KH1 when I was 11-12 on PS2 and have been following this shit ever since. The amount of systems the games have been on is crazy but they have made it easier to digest over years which is good. KH2FM is still the peak but KH3 after the updates comes close. Can't wait for KH4. Kinda hate the mobile shit but whatever.
Sora is the avatar of Kingdom Hearts
Sora's heart IS Kingdom Hearts
shlock that i cant stop buying
kh3 was okay but the dlcbosses were amazing so im giving kh4 a chance
This but i'll only buy 4 if it's confirmed good straight away and even then, only on sale
Sora will get a crown at the end of the series because he'll become a king. The King of Hearts.
Sora gets a crown in 2 though
not like in canon though, isn't it just a cosmetic
>The King of Hearts.
So he's getting married to pic related?
1FM 2FM and 3RE are among the best action RPGs of all time. Fantastic mix of cheesey ridiculous plot that takes itself seriously and simple, flashy combat with fun bosses.
doesn't even qualify as action
Frick off coomer.
Worse than FINAL FANTASY XV by Tabata Nomura Yoshit-piss
Kingdom Farts
A series that showcases Nomura's strengths (character designs and character interactions/moments) and weaknesses (feeling a need to explain everything leading to abundant retcons and convoluted storytelling, the inability to let a story just sit on its own), and I think they're overall pretty good games. Some are stinkers on the gameplay side, some are shit on the story/characters side, but I don't think any single KH game isn't at least worth a look at in some regard. 3D is the one I'd rank the lowest, though.
Should've ended with 2
2 is kino
I get that 2 had a great ending for Sora, Riku, and Kairi, but I don't get the idea of saying "It should've ended with 2."
You can't simultaneously say that Nobodies aren't "real" and thereby don't deserve to have their own lives while also having Sora be friends with fictional characters in a book or a computer program. Also, the plot of KH2 is choppy in a lot of places and doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The beginning and the major action moments in the middle and end of the game are nice, but everything between those three parts is pretty bad.
I liked KH1, got filtered by CoM, and really liked KH2. Haven't played the others.
I watched a ton of disney movies as a child so being an adult now it's kinda nice to revisit those worlds and reminds me of all the characters that I grew up with and enjoyed. Playing these games, for a fleeting moment, makes me remember how nice that part of my childhood was. Plus the art that came out of the series is great.
This is every based Kingdom Hearts fan.
Like KH1, Love KH2, Simple As.
All other games are zoomer/ironic weeb shit.
games with great gameplay and dumb stories that have turned into games with mediocre gameplay and fricking terrible stories. I don't know what fricking brain damage nomura has incurred but its genuinely turned me off the franchise
If only..
kh2 is literally the greatest game of all time
terrible but somehow FFVII RE managed to be even worse. II is ok
At first the Disney crossover felt like nice and blended with the story in general but as the games passed and the series started to build its own Identity the Disney shit has started to feel more lkie a hinderance than a jojyful addition.
And with the past enterviews I have no faith whatsoever on KHIV it will be a worse KHIII, and I hate they have to leave extremely important plot points into mobage kusoge.
Ohh, also frick KHII homosexuals, you ruin every conversation about the series.
Kingdom Hearts without Disney isn't Kingdom Hearts.
Kingdom hearts can Survive with:
the trio
Chip'n Dale
Yen Sid
Maleficent & Pete
1 or 2 other characters
beyond that is filler, we're at the point where we could have a full OC game, but because morons like you we never will.
>& Pete
Disagree. Maleficent's only good appearances are KH1 and BBS. One she's paired up with the obese moron she loses any threatening aura and becomes an unfunny joke.
>because morons like you
You mean Nomura, who wanted to and still wants to make a series where you visit Disney worlds. The games have been built up from day one on this concept.
You're right, it would be something better.
I enjoyed KH1, i really liked KH2 and :re Coded, feel mixed about DDD and i dropped 358/2 because it bored me. Haven't played the rest
And i want to have sex with KH1 Kairi
Total shit outside of kh1 fm + 2fm. Skip everything after that
needed to stop at 2
Started the series with CoM GBA (had no PS2), obviously I had problems with the plot but by the end it was just cool to watch Axel and Marluxia do shit. Riku's scenario was just overall short but fun.
Once I got PS2, I played KH1 and KH2. KH1 is by far my favourite title in the series, I love almost everything about it and you can consider it as a standalone title if you just want to experience Squaresoft's JRPG in Disney worlds. Right after 100% KH1 I jumped into KH2, and man, Roxas' prologue was great... but then the main game with Sora starts, and it sucked (Mulan being the very first Disney world to visit is probably the poorest choice in entire series). Being vanilla KH2 and not FM, combat felt different and yet much easier (I think I only died in Pride Lands against ironball dinosaurs and in Beast's Castle against Xaldin, that's it for the whole game), and plot kinda went the shounen way instead of Disney movie-like. Also frick minigame galore in KH2. FM fixed many gameplay aspects for both KH1 and KH2, but KH2 got much bigger of an upgrade (probably because KH1 already had a lot in EN vanilla release).
Days was ok sidegame that didn't ruin the plot with how Xion disappeared, but then KH3 killed all the good will Days had.
Starting from BBS and DDD I mostly play the series for Shimomura's music and goofing around in Disney worlds, the plot is just JoJo now (and while Araki resets the party every part, Nomura drags everyone along from game to game) and gameplay is hit-or-miss with Tokyo team being dead and Osaka team getting their shit together only after KH3 DLC. I don't feel like investing another 20 years into the series after KH3 and X/UX disappointing me so hard.
>tl;dr
I agree with post like and
>I don't feel like investing another 20 years into the series
Too bad. XehaBlack person's story is very likely not over yet. He won't be a big bad, but he'll still have a big role.
1-358 have this specific "It's the mid 2000s, you're 12 years old, and currently in a Hot Topic store" sort of feel that can't be replicated.
There's also a strong emotional weight to the early games that outshines any of the sillier plot points. And the gameplay in 1 and are 2 great, and hold up very well. 1 has strong level design that cleverly incorporates your combat skills, and 2 is an incredibly tight action game.
As for the rest, I don't really care. BBS onwards is mediocre at best, and incredibly annoying to play at worst. With plot points that trample on the emotional weight of previous games, or just don't live up to the standards set in those early titles. KH3 was the culmination of this, with its plot being a pure schizophrenic nightmare of unparsable lore that's impossible to take seriously on any level. It did at least have decent gameplay compared to BBS and DDD.
Peaked with the first game. Slow and steady decline from that point onwards.
first game is kino
second game is okay
all the spinoffs are moronic
I think it's generally pretty good and always at least a 7/10 on the first playthrough. There's also never been a decent competitor in the genre. Looking forward to KH4 more than any game other than Bomb Rush Cyberfunk
There is not enough R34 and Doujins. Why aren't nips as obsessed with it as westerners are?
They are, but most Disney fujos are obsessed with the villains or gay boys or both.
Pic related.
If I had the talent, I'd fricking make a KH-esque WEG about dicking Disney and Squeenix b***hes to save them from becoming sexless feminists.
That already exists pretty much. It even uses elements of Kingdom Hearts like the world select and gummi ship.
wtf which one?
Only played 1 hour into 1. Grew up playing 2 but never beat it. 3 has moronic exposition with Toy Story and Frozen so not going into that. Basically:
>1: cringe kino
>2: kino
>3: cringe
Honestly, KH3 was a lot of fun to play but its just way too easy. Nomura has a way to do something with his games that I can't really say I've seen it executed as well in other games but the payoff of the final cutscenes that show future events or something entirely different like the yozora shit makes playing them worth it imo
KH1 was fun and unique.
KH2 is just a button mash game and a slog to play through.
didn't play KH3 yet
Chain of memories mix was interesting but dropped it in the middle.
Is Birth by sleep worth playing?
Birth By Sleep is easily the best Kingdom Hearts game.
>Chain of memories mix was interesting but dropped it in the middle.
Play the GBA version if you haven't. It plays/feels much better than the 3D version it's not even a joke.
BBS is fun but going through the same worlds three times can drag. Especially since the recommended order ends with Aqua aka the dullest plank of wood protagonist in the series.
>like the anime+light hearted/cartoonish tone
>like exploring worlds based on public domain stories
>like cross dimensional plot lines
>like the fricking moronic ass plot
>first game had best gameplay before every encounter had a gimmick and tried to be devil may cry
>fantastic music
>Frick the Disney shit. Only was good as tone inspiration and the original concept to make the game. Using OCs or Square owned properties would have made it one of the greatest series of all time. Instead its just a glorified licensed Mickie mouse game.
Sora, Mog and Frog traveling to a Tom Sawyer world > disney movie regurgitation shit.
the gameplay peaked at 2 but gotten worse but over all its ok its arguably bad
>captcha: tsmrp
overtime* oh yea think the music is perfect
Can't wait for the Star Wars world
The worst KH game is at its worst point a mediocre action RPG, which is impressive with how hard some entries vie for that spot.
Contender for my favorite game series ever. Don't think I've ever had as much fun with a game as I did with Re:Mind.
Was a fun ride until KH3, shattered my faith in Nomura and I will not buy Kingdom Hearts 4.
I like how full moron it goes. But I don’t have to patience to play it. I could only get a third through the first one multiple times in the past decade.
i wonder how much square will bow down to disney considering 4 has star wars in the first trailer and that The Toy Story world in Kingdom Hearts III is canon to the Toy Story plot the starwars world might just be an ad for episode 10
The things I would do to this twink...
Do tell.
I can't it's too embarrassing
Just let it be known that I commissioned this
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Not sure how nobody replied to this but hot damn, Anon. Sublime taste.
Got any more?
Played literally ever single title including melody of memories. Mainline titles were played multiple times on Lv1 playthroughs. I played all titles at launch and have recently (past 2 or so years) replayed them.
>KH1 is great, only shortcoming is the combat being clunky and unbalanced
>KH2 is unarguably the best in combat, story, and bosses
>KH3 is actually really great, biggest shortfall was lack of difficulty and bosses at launch
>DDD is a sleeper hit (no pun intended). Game is really good but most never had a 3DS and now people just skip it and claim they played it
>BBS is basically KH2.5 in terms of gameplay. So it's really good. Problem is that it gets repetitive as you have to beat it 3 times to get the true ending.
>Chain of Memories was okay for its time, but the card based gameplay is really annoying now
>ReCoded, MoM, 365/2 days, ect. Can be skipped. Just watch the video summaries. As someone that has played them, please don't. You aren't missing out on anything.
These are unbiased objective facts.
>DDD is a sleeper hit (no pun intended). Game is really good but most never had a 3DS and now people just skip it and claim they played it
>BBS is basically KH2.5 in terms of gameplay. So it's really good. Problem is that it gets repetitive as you have to beat it 3 times to get the true ending.
You are perfectly entitled to your opinion anon but these are some ass backward takes.
>DDD really good
>skip Days and watch its shitty movie that misses 75% of the context
>skip Re:Coded and miss out on the best Command Deck gameplay
>doesn't even like CoM
Anon, please.
You know, I'm playing BBS right now and I was really looking forward to it because I remembered everyone felleating the game when it was on the PSP. Honestly? It's really lame and coming from KH2FM I don't have much of a motivation to even play it.
I don't know man, I'm playing Re:Coded and it'd actually pretty fun. The story just doesn't matter.
But you're right Days is lame.
MoM is genuinely good if you like rhythm games, and absolutely shouldn't be skipped in that regard.
Re:Coded is funny, because it's basically the game that challenges the idea in KH2 the most directly.
>"Haha, why are you two risking your life for (Data Sora)? He's not even real!"
But then DDD has Sora basically realize all of the stuff Re:Coded builds towards offscreen by the time he meets Roxas again, so the game is even more pointless than it already feels to most people.
its metal af
boys hitting big monsters with keyblades until they die
Kingdom hearts 1 and 2 (fm versions) are solid action rpgs that I had fun with.
I'm currently playing through the collection and BBS was a solid entry though not as fun as the main entries.
Chain of memories is so-so once you figure out how the card system works, at least they tried something new
Currently up to DDD in th 2.8 and I'm not having fun with it, maybe I'm just burnt out but I really don't like the flowmotion gameplay where sometimes you can just get stuck in a flowmotion animation from a simple dodge roll
I know now, without a doubt, that Kingdom Hearts… is alright!!!
The PS2 games were great and nothing else in the series has been able to come close.
I devoted my life to it and I can say that it contributed to my autism level savantry
Wasted potential. The idea was genuinely good on paper: SE was the king of RPGs at the time, and Disney has enough beloved characters to populate an entire city. Putting those two things together really wasn't a bad idea. The problem was letting the plot get so goddamn convoluted and focusing more on the kawaii bishie OCs instead of THE CHARACTERS EVERYONE ACTUALLY KNOWS AND LOVES AND CAME TO SEE. If I was in charge I would just toss it all out and start from scratch, after distracting Nomura with a 1000 yen note on a string.
Was really into the series until KH3. Don't know if I grew out of it, or just stopped liking the series since KH3 was so bad.
>I don't mind the idea of focusing on the original characters,
No, frick you. It's just as bad as making a movie adaptation that focuses on a bunch of literally who humans and a shoehorned romance plot. If you watch a Transformers movie, you want to see Optimus Prime and Megatron and Starscream and all those guys, right? You didn't mortgage your house for a bucket of popcorn so you could see Shia LeBeouf awkwardly hit on Megan Fox, did you?
God damn anon if Megan Fox wasn't hot as frick in that movie though
She's generically hot. Being hot doesn't mean jack in Hollywood because almost everyone in Hollywood is hot.
Peaked at KH2.
Imagine saying the stuff in pic related
its like im reading Tails Gets Trolled
And another
>burger
Man, i really should pick up the manga again.
Cringedom hearts, pic related
Deep, serious contemplation on the subject of light and darkness
The inspiration
This is why Kingdom Hearts used to be epic to me in the 2000s but now its a comedy game. I just cannot take this shit seriously anymore.
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One of my favorite game series of all time even if a lot of the games are kinda meh and the story is pure shit at this point. Love the gameplay, music, nostalgia, characters, and exploring worlds.
Cool idea with forced shitty script to appeal to overboard attempt to appeal to kids.
Would do better if they made the script more mature and to at least a more teen audience.
Haven't played remind, but 2FM is unironically good gameplay wise and to beat the data fights you need to learn the mechanics. I though I could just wiz through them by spamming the attack command
I haven’t played them but I want to frick Sora
Sora has some intense fans, huh?
I was into it until I realized KH3 had no Final Fantasy characters because they think they're too good for it anymore
Give Tidus some time in the spotlight, Black person. He's perfect for Kingdom Heart's wacky optimism bullshit, his backstory is 1:1 with worlds being destroyed/dreams/whatever, plus he could slap Sora's shit
The actual gameplay is decent
Everything else is laughable
This line made me laugh the frick out as an adult when I heard it.
Even more
It's fricking stupid, but I've yet to find something that plays remotely like it
You’ll pay for insulting KH!
I still follow the story even though it's poorly-written garbage. I guess I must have Stockholm syndrome after years of waiting for KH3
C’mon, put him in his place! Use the keyblade!
We need a Kingdom Hearts game focused only on teenage drama/slice of life set on the Destiny Islands. With Sora, Kairi, Riku, Roxas, Xion and Namine.
Kinda like the first part of KH1, but just them focusing on their relationships, building boats, catching fish, sexual tension, competition between the boys, Kairi being a wienertease etc...
My favorite part of the games is just the characters actually interacting like in KH1 where Kairi was quite the vixen, the ice cream shit with Roxas and Xion and even in 3 for a moment it seemed that Sora and Kairi relationships was evolving and getting deeper until...he disappears for sequel bait reasons.
I hope that in KH4 we get to at least eat at restaurants with Sora, visit Shibuya and go shopping with Strelitzia
Like him? It’s grotesque Sora.
Cinematic Combat done right and fujo pandering.
Firmly believe 358/2 days deserved a remake, preferably on the 3DS or Wii U something, but literally anything would have been nice. That it got relegated to an HD cutscene movie is a tragedy.
Also, DDD was a mistake. Who the frick looked at the pile of spaghetti that is the KH story and thought adding time travel was a good idea?
Nomura has this weird thing where he always seems to feel the need to explain things. DDD did a lot of retroactive explaining of certain things and mechanics, and from DDD onward there's been less retconning as a result, but it's still a fricking mess of a story because it introduced not only time travel, but EXTREMELY SPECIFIC RULES for time travel, that the series then goes ahead and ignores anyway when Merlin and Sora do it. Like, there's what seems to be "time travel you can do without breaking the laws of nature" which Xehanort and some people in KHUX do, and then there's "frick it do whatever" but that gets you banished out of reality unless you're a Disney character I guess.
As an addendum, I think KHUX's time travel rules it introduces (as in, going to the future) are more coherent than whatever Xehanort used, and they clearly built it around an existing instance of a character's revival (Maleficent coming back in 2) instead of just sort of hamfisting it in.
>there are people who played through multiple Kingdom Hearts games despite disliking the Disney stuff
dont know im not trans
So how likely is it that Sora is the Master of Masters?
It's Nomura. He could pull some Kojimbo shit and make it so the entire Organization, all the people related to the MoM, as well as everyone in the keyblade war, are shadow bodies/descendents/alternate universe counterparts/different interpretations (Final Fantasy series style), etc, of a Sora who went to the past with some Reverseja time magic shit
It exacerbates the shift from the initial premise of the game being a crossover between Square Enix and Disney to a licensed Disney fan fic game where OC characters exist as a decoration and FF/TWEWY characters are purged out of existence. Like, how none of them are present in the loading screens in KH3. Who would want to play this trash series where Nomura can just get rid of things he doesn't like anymore and pretend they never existed?
You replied to the wrong person, but I agree. Also it's worse than not being in loading screens in KH3. They literally weren't in KH3 until DLC
Extremely unlikely. There'd be no reason to it. It's more likely he's Demyx or just somebody else entirely. The only reason he's probably Demyx is because Demyx is apparently linked to ancient Keyblade wielders and we just have NOTHING else on his past. Luxord we at least know is linked to Yozora.
Demyx is linked to whichever Black person gives every fight background music
It became soulless when Nomura said he would remove FF characters completely from the series.
Well Yozora is Noctis, so so much for that
FF characters were mostly just a semi relevant group in 1 and 2. They never had much of a presence. I'd love to have more of them or even a couple worlds based on SE games but I don't get why people are all upset that Nomura just now doesn't care about FF characters.
>semi-relevant
They're a core group in every single iconic area of the first couple games. Starting island? Half the island's characters are Final Fantasy. Radiant Garden? Final Fantasy. Strongest boss? Final Fantasy.
Every spell and the partial basis of most of Sora's various form changes. The leading characters in most of the most hype moments of the game (helping Sora get to the thousand heartless, the underworld coliseum, etc). It's also implied that all of Sora's childhood friends behind Riku and Kairi are Final Fantasy characters.
Aside from Donald and Goofy, Disney had less relevance than Final Fantasy in the first couple games' main plot. They just gave Mickey more screen time because Disney demands it.
it was fun when I was young but it's just stupid now, Black folk need to grow up
Great music
all of the Kingdom Hearts original stuff is really entertaining but I don't like the Disney stuff at all
Then you should play a superior game from Disney Japan and Aniplex where Disney stuff is relegated to being a reference and the main cast are delinquents loosely based on classic Disney villains.
My first real game when I was a kid (besides pokemon red),
My favorite action rpg,
My lifelong companion.
I my opinion Kingdom Hearts is light
Can't think of any reason to care about this lame ass garbage aside from gameplay if they fix it in KH4.
Not enough DARKNESS
Gay and moronic, and I've played every single one
That is the average fans take so I assume you love the them.
Sequel baits saga , featuring mickey mouse from Disney series
1, COM and 2 were good.
Everything afterwards is trash.
Loved it as a kid, KH3 was very disappointing and I will be well nearing 40 by the time KH4 comes out, if they keep the same release schedule, so I would be too old to care.
The main numbered games are all at the very least good and enjoyable. BBS and DDD ruined the story entirely though. Not that it was ever an amazing story, but those two absolutely turned it into a mess.
BBS was great though sure it was basically star wars but it introduced backstory the series needed. DDD was complete shit and ruined everything though.
>it introduced backstory the series needed
It really didn't. The entire series would have functioned fine without anything in BBS. They very likely didn't even have the BBS shenanigans planned out until they realized how popular the series was.
Sure if they ended at KH2 but that was never gonna happen.
They could have taken half the Final Fantasy stories about light vs dark and slotted in the Kingdom Hearts characters instead, ad infinitum with all the power scaling you can achieve via a plotline based around different worlds being canon
The story is convoluted but not particularly unique. The backstory wasn't necessarily. They could have just said KH1's beginning was all you needed to know and no one would have cared. Without it being talked about in a new game, the audience was more likely to care about how Sora's mom is doing on Destiny Island than all the shit about the previous keyblade wielders talking to the main cast
Sure but nomura is a huge star wars gay and this is what we got. Go write a cool kingdom hearts what if and see if disney picks it up.
I don't give a shit about writing a new Kingdom Hearts. I'm calling out that the backstory was needed. It wasn't at all. Everything was hamfisted.
I fricking love it. I played KH1 when I was 11-12 on PS2 and have been following this shit ever since. The amount of systems the games have been on is crazy but they have made it easier to digest over years which is good. KH2FM is still the peak but KH3 after the updates comes close. Can't wait for KH4. Kinda hate the mobile shit but whatever.
Missing Link will be a total flop and foreshadow the failure of KH4. You can't milk a bad story forever.