What keeps you from using Epic Games Store? For me, I'm unwilling to transition to a store that I'm not confident will still be in business in five years. I also don't want multiple storefronts; I only want one application and I've been a steam user since 2003. What keeps you from giving Timmy money?
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Is a fricking UE application, thats already a big frick up that feels like the store is taking a lot of resources for something that could be much more faster like steam. I find it hilarious that when the store crashes a UE report windows appear.
That’s because UE is attached to the store. It’s not a derivative, it’s literally the launcher for the engine itself, just with each having their own tab. Doesn’t make much sense for those not using the engine but for those that do it’s a big convenience, as opposed to having a separate application for games from the same company. But yeah, bloat is kind of an issue with the engine in general, it took me a half hour to package my game demo last night despite it only being 2.4 GBs.
Unreal allows foe third party clients unlike steam and you can run it cli, dumbass
>Unreal allows foe third party clients
Have they officially blessed the third party client, or just haven't C&D'd it yet?
Dont know
OK, then Steam also has multiple third-party clients as well.
The time I heard about EGS is when it's shilled here.
>What keeps you from giving Timmy money?
i don't play Fortnite
>aishart
Frick off
sneed
>no one responds
>the thread continues
hate to see it, don't you, art troon?
it's only going to get more prolific and there's nothing you can do to stop it
AI won
>thread is still up
Itsa ova
I use Heroic to play the freebies.
Modded GTA V is fun
Doesn't heroic require you have the epic launcher installed?
no, but maybe for epic's online multiplayer service
>those pajeets in crowd cheering for ebin games
sarbros...
Same reason I don't use uPlay, Origin, Battlenet etc.
I'm simply not interested in anything they provide, and even if I was, I'm not going to download multiple launchers just to run one game.
I'm not necessarily against multiple applications, I've got Origin installed after all, but it is a hassle. Both Origin and ESG are unstable pieces of software.
Epic Games are going in the right direction by actually funding titles like Alan Wake 2. Otherwise, they're just a poor imitation of Steam. Less games, less features, less everything. If Epic keeps funding titles that wouldn't have gotten made otherwise I'll probably start using it.
>Linux Support
>Steam built itself on half a dozen successful franchises made in house versus one flash-in-the-pan zoomer game
>Steam offers experimental tech sold at or below cost and is actually innovating
>Steam has better sales/Humble bundle
>Gabe is literally BASED.
>EGS immediately made the shit list when they tried to force "muh exclusives" console homogay practices on the PC market
Used GOG for a hot minute until it became clear they were just going to continue ignoring the top community requests for a Linux native Galaxy client.
Steam isnt wonderful or perfect, its just not nearly as terrible as every other POS on the market.
Who says I don't? I fricking hate corporations and the bullshit marketing brainwash act they successfully get away with. I mean look at this asslicking clown:
No, I use any and all portals I can and collect them all under a central app. Wow, so fricking hard! Bootlickers make me physically ill.
>Steam built itself on half a dozen successful franchises made in house versus one flash-in-the-pan zoomer game
Ok zoomer
NTA but that's objectively correct. What do you disagree with?
You think Epic started with Fortnite?
considering that Timmy sucessfully has swept one of his most important franchises under the rug despite fans loving and caring about it, you could say its just fortnite now and he acts like it always was the case
That was never implied. That anon said steam not Valve. So we're obviously talking about EGS, not Epic the company. Besides Fortnite, what has cemented the EGS's current success?
the store's only reason for existence was fortnite for a while
This. EGS basically went out of their way to have contempt for the player and an attitude of "if we suck off the publishers, the players will follow the stream of cum because they'll have to to get their games", culminating in the by-contract exclusivity bullshit which essentially did not exist on PC before timmy tried to institute it as a norm, bribing dev/publishers to release on his shitheap. Epic also has outward contempt for Steam and Valve , doesn't support Linux out of spite and even started to stop supporting Linux as well in UE4/UE5 or their other projects. Hell, buying a game that has a Linux client already on EGS will not be supported so you actually get a lesser product (ie Slime Rancher is Linux native on Steam when it came to EGS as well, but buying it there you don't get the Linux version). I haven't even gotten into the Tencent then Sony investment shit carrying their ass, or the whining baby behavior about how he couldn't sell his games on Google Play and Apple App Store yet have them all duck out and avoid the rules like "If you distribute via our store, you can't just shunt the payment through a 3rd party without giving us our cut" - a greater form of "piracy" than the one he whines about and wants PC gamers to be more like console tards.
Everything Timmy did since Fortnite and the EGS has worsened PC gaming and they can die in a fricking fire. They could have focused on their Unreal Engine and even sold their games that demo it like Fortnite everywhere on every platform, while being universally valued but nooooooo, the greedy control freak demanded otherwise an shot himself in the dick instead
>"if we suck off the publishers, the players will follow the stream of cum because they'll have to to get their games"
This. Remember when they were advertising "we give more X% back to the developer"? That's not an advertisement to consumers. When Steam came onto the scene, they could cut out a lot of the middleman fees like physical storefronts, but came with a host of tools that made it easier to install, update, and play games with others. If EGS came out and said "we take a smaller cut and pass that savings onto you", then maybe that 5-10% everyday price would've worked. But not only did that not happen they attacked Steam users for being basically selfish wiener-sucking buttholes.
They ignored what marketers have done for the last 30+ years, in comparing products you have it make it look better than the competition. More absorbent, thicker, longer lasting, fewer calories, cheaper. You've seen 'em all. Instead not only could they not only come up with a competent storefront they had just an army of shills flood the board on how bad Steam was.
>If EGS came out and said "we take a smaller cut and pass that savings onto you", then maybe that 5-10% everyday price would've worked.
That would have been great, but since he is courting publishers the last thing he would do is force them on prices, the most that was said related to trickle down economics rhetoric which was always doomed to fail.
>"muh exclusives"
The worst part was when they approached an indie dev with the exclusivity deal. He told them no because he promised a steam release on his kickstarter but he offered to have it on the store as a non exclusive and they told him they weren't interested
Also, when it comes to content censorship, Steam is easily the least onions of the bunch.
All of this too.
I pirate almost all the games I play, so when I atculy buy a game it is either a game with denuvo that dropped to 20 euros, a multiplayer game, a game with steam workshop support, a game I want for my Steam Deck or just a game from a dev I want to finacaly support.
So making an account for yet another launcher I will not use makes no god damn sense for me.
Basically don't want to use multiple stores. People generally don't and Timmy should have seen this. Just look at what happened to streaming services. People have also been very vocal all along that they don't like additional clients and stores like Origin, Ubishit, Rockstar Launcher, etc. Somehow Timmy saw all this and decided to try and dethrone Steam who generally have very good relations with their users since they are not a public company obligated to be driven by profits in everything they do.
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store?
the Epic Games Store
>What keeps you from giving Timmy money?
Tim Sweeney
the stores I buy games from do not have epic games keys
You will never get it. It's extremely simple but... you cannot get it because you don't understand your (non) customers.
Why would I give money to a dead platform?
All I do with Epic is get the freebies and bail
Also Tim does not want my money for whatever reason
I'm not joking, when I tried to buy a game once, the store just rejected my debit card
It worked fine on steam too, so it was not an issue with the bank
Funny thing is I'm indian so seeing you morons cry jeet shill at Epic threads always gives me a chuckle. Timmeh doesn't give a frick about us
Despite being 5 years old, almost all games I care about aren't there and never will, and almost all upcoming games I plan to play also have no egs release planned
Even gog gets more games than the egs. Why would I spend money on it?
This picture isn't accurate. Steam is actively participating and Epic isn't just punching itself in the face.
Mostly how timmy wants to try and force me to use it with exclusives. Frick that.
I'm unwilling to transition as well
Timmy's belief that to be successful you need to appeal to publishers, not customers, and that the customers will tolerate anything if it's the only place to get what they want. Even his most pro-consumer move, the free games, are designed to appeal to publishers by having Epic buy up a ton of copies of games that aren't selling anymore. I'm not going to willingly support a storefront that is actively trying to prove stores should be publisher focused, not costumer focused
I refuse to fund exclusivity on PC. I wait until it's available on steam. If it's not then it's probably not worth playing.
> and that the customers will tolerate anything if it's the only place to get what they wan
Kind of like Microsoft and Windows… yeah that turned to be a bad ide….. oh wait.
>and that the customers will tolerate anything if it's the only place to get what they want.
He's absolutely right about this, the problem is that he said it publicly. Customers will tolerate atrocious horrible DRM like denuvo, Ubisoft Connect, EA App, Rockstar Social Games Club, 100-200 GB installs and other ridiculous unoptimized system requirements just to play their games. The cherry on top is they defend all of this too and blame their fellow customers for not adhering to these.
I actually bought a Series X partly to avoid all that gay shit.
Is it shooped? Bing knows steam logo, but not esg
I dont need to use it so I don't, same with gog, same with microsoft store.
no review function
no refunds
not clarity if still around in five years
Timmy left PC in favor of consoles. Now he is back and wants 35%-50% of PC market. He is openly anti-customer and pro-developer.
Timmy is a snake. Doesn't matter how many time he will shed his skin, he can't shed off the bad reputation he gained over the years.
I got it solely to play kingdom hearts. I also got battlenet just to play d2. Also others just to play one game. Its pretty shitty but i kinda just gave up, this is how it is now. I don't really play games outside of retro/emulation so it does not ruin my life.
steam did a very good job of making itself important and I just don't see another game store replacing it in the near future and certainly not the EGS. steam is something that I had to install a long time ago, and have tolerated ever since only because it's always had good UX and has worked quite well. that's it. I can't even imagine how incredible a competing store would have to be to get me to switch from it. realistically, could EGS ever be good enough? I don't really see how. basically this sort of product
oops, forgot to finish: this sort of product doesn't seem to invite competition, like a lot of apps. people have a thing that works well they're used to and they neither need nor want to switch, especially if the current product is fine
>EGS forced exclusives
>EGS client in the industry
>doesn't force devs to pass the 18% savings onto customers
Why would I support a company who's values I think are anti-consumer?
My friends convince me to use it to play some co-op games with them.
As long as I get a 20 minute head start it's fine, because holy shit it takes a long time to start.
Its trash
You people are all morons. More competition is always a good thing. EGS charges a much lower % to publishers compared to steam, which means MORE games you morons. I've used EGS here and there, what's really wrong with it? Steam barely gets any updates, with most users using Discord to coordinate stuff anyways.
It's almost nice to see that EGS shill posts haven't changed a bit in the last 5 years, just like the store itself
>which means MORE games you morons.
oh frick, that's great news. There have been so few games coming out.
>bro 2023 is le best year in gaming
frick off
who are you quoting?
why would I give a frick about what money the publisher gets? they should care of delivering good games so a lot of people will buy it, not cut expenses accepting timmy's deal so the CEO can get another porsche in his garage.
but competition isn't actually what people want in practice. social media's a good example; people don't want to be scattered across 10 different platforms, they want to be on one with everybody else. so does "competition" mean a handful of stores trying to be the only one people want to use? if so, then the question becomes whether EGS is trying to make a good-faith attempt to be the best store. I certainly don't have that impression, it seems much more like they are trying to market and con their way into relevance instead of providing a solid product. and to get people to switch, they have to be not as good as, but BETTER than steam, otherwise inertia will keep people on steam. does anyone actually think EGS is better?
I don't like Timmy and I don't think EGS games are reliably working on the Steam Deck. I mean sure I could use it on my Windows gaming PC while using Steam on the deck, but where's the benefit?
I am not a games publisher. You're barking to the wrong audience. I still pay the same price regardless of whether the game is on Steam or exclusive to EGS.
EGS engage in anti-competitive behavior, the irony that you use the word competition to refer to them is palpable.
Maybe I'll give a shit about EGS "competing" with steam when they start competing for the customer rather than publishers, but probably not.
Be pro-user
1) Stop forcing timed exclusivity, I will use the better platform in the end even if I have to wait and all the waiting does is make me resentful towards Epic
2) Offer a friends system with persistent chat room, voice chat, able to stream your games natively without OBS to your friends, screenshots, can even share your games with your friends to allow them to play
3) Better mod, support controller, hardware support, etc. I wll load GoG via steam and big picture mode sometimes when native GoG support doesn't recognize my controller for some reason
4) Start to develop linux gaming along with Valve since everyone will benefit from not being tied to Microsoft
It's anti-user and anti-consumer. It's just plain bad. It offers me no incentives to use it over the two stores I already use, namely Steam and GoG. I had a better experience with fricking Origin than EGS.
Nothing. I buy the game in the cheapest storefront I find, be it Steam, GoG or Epic.
Finally. Same here. Just use whatever is cheaper and organize games in Playnite.
Only thing stopping me from using Epic more is that GamePass already satisfies 90% of my gaming needs.
>picrel
Sauce? RIS doesn't come up with shit.
This image is incorrect because it implies steam hit Epic. Actually epic just punches itself in the face like a moron while steam is busy learning how to count to 3 for the 15th year in a row. If epic actually tried hard instead of just trying to buy their way in with handouts, they could make a product people actually use because they want to. But they're chinese so they never will. Can't invent anything, just copy or buy, too lazy and no creativity or empathy.
Fortnite is the only reason it's even installed in the first place. Had a bad experience with Epic's version of Borderlands 3, so now I just stick to steam. Also hate having to resign in whenever there's an update. You also can't have 2 accounts signed in at the same time like steam. And there's no game streaming service. Steam link is great.
>No user reviews, only "critics" reviews
>Heavy as shit launcher that somehow eats as much VRAM as an active 3D game, especially compared to steams UI. Even after steam pulled out a new UI, it was no as bad performance wise like Epic's, and they still haven't fixed this shit.
>Downloading games and pause the download for any reason has a higher chance to download the game broken, and instead of having an option to check files integrity you might have to unistall, redownload and reinstall the whole shit again.
>Prices higher that in other competitors (steam)
>Epic allows cryptomining games
Im not sure if to add here if wheter you can or not share games with another Epic account like Steams.
The only props i find to Epic are some exclusives and giving free games.
what kind of knock off steam client you got that its using gpu memory exclusively, lol
But I use it (the website) for claiming free games
So what's the next free game.
Most likely some shovelware, some free dlc for some online shit, or a 7/10 game at best.
There is no guarantee that they will release anything good until christmass.
I already use GOG, I just don't trust sleazebag Tim and the Chinese government funding him.
reviews , workshop , forums , guides
>be Epic games
>have more bilions than Valve
>decide that you want compete against it
>create a game launcher worse than steam
>start b***hing cause people don't ditch steam immediately after you gifted them some free vidya
>be also a malaware
So what was the plan here ?
one storefront is already one too many
i'm unironically considering disengaging from the steam ecosystem as well
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store?
But I do, because free games
>What keeps you from giving Timmy money?
Free games
I only use it to get my weekly free game, in 3 years I've played like 5 of them
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store? For me, I'm unwilling to transition to a store that I'm not confident will still be in business in five years. I also don't want multiple storefronts; I only want one application and I've been a steam user since 2003
That's what it boils down to for me. If I was going to use any other storefront it would be gog since that don't do drm
These threads keep reminding me to pick up my free games from EGS
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store
3rd party exclusivity deals
tim can go suck a golf ball through a garden hose
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store?
Nothing, I started to topup genshin using egs because they return some of money back.
I think currently epic returns you 5% of all money you spend on their store, not just genshin.
What this guy said but for all Hoyo gachas, Kingdom Hearts and the free gayms are basically the only reason I use EGS, it'll never overthrow Steam but at least I use it now.
kys mihomosexual shiteaters
>GachaBlack folk
>Using EGS
you people lower my opinion of you more and more every day
>GachaBlack folk
Unlike steamgays right?
You don't understand, Anon! The type of digital, DRM/app locked content bought by Steamgays is superior to GachaBlack folk, EGSPajeets and Consolegays. Steamgays are the PC master race! They saved gaming by killing off retail PC games, savaging the secondhand market and inflicting DRM onto consoles! We owe them out thanks, appreciation and boyfriend free girls for their duty!
steamchads are playing actual games, not jpg hoarding simp simulators
I don't want any storefront running in the background period, and they want me to allow 2 or 3 of them. It's obnoxious as frick software design and none of them can be set to close after you finish playing a game.
I already use EGS, mainly for Unreal Engine, but I check for the free games every month, sometimes there's something good. It needs user reviews and community hub like steam to really compete though. Like actual profiles and shit.
I don't like having too many store apps open. I already have steam where most of my games live. Gog galaxy and epic just sit there installed for when I need something specific. Having the three of them running and taking up resources is a bit unreasonable.
>ai garbage
frick off
>5 more years
no linux support, no offline status, cant import other games, no workshop, no controller compatability tool, confusing and dogshit UI, none of my friends use it.
>this shit pops up and wont dissappear until you click the tiny X button on all three
this is why steam is winning
>whaaaaaaaaa? I have to click the X button 3 times to close this small window on the lower right portion of my screen??? frick dis! fr fr no cap on god!
why are zoomers like this nowadays?
why are you defending shitty pop ups
why are you using shitty pop ups as an argument for/against some shit
bro...
it's almost christmas, and you're on a schizo steam/epic thread complaining about fricking 3 pop ups to remind people that there's new shit/sales/free shit on the store...
m a z e d
it's almost christmas, and you're on a schizo steam/epic thread complaining about people complaining about fricking 3 pop ups to remind people that there's new shit/sales/free shit on the store...
it's almost christmas, and you're on a schizo steam/epic thread complaining about people complaining about people complaining about fricking 3 pop ups to remind people that there's new shit/sales/free shit on the store...
NTA but doesn't seem unreasonable. They're annoying. If I have two options, and one of them is less annoying, why would I pick the other?
If anything, zoomers should be used to advertising on their desktop. Back in ye olde days we didn't have desktop advertisements unless we installed virus.
I paid for the product you fricking bootlicker. I should be treated like the king I am not some peasant who has to put up with shitty design.
stop pretending zoomer
POG! I'm no longer a boomer!
ez
what if I like the act of clicking on tiny X's to close pop-ups because the old internet conditioned me?
EGS just gives you games and is shit at it. I'll just pirate instead because it's less hassle. Oh and Tim is an unhinged schizo so I don't trust his software on my PC.
Steam gives me console like experience with big picture and community shit I actually use. Gabe is a regular billionaire that does cool shit on the side I have no qualms about installing Steam even if it is spyware.
I use GOG Galaxy so stores barely matter to me.
ESG's client is utter shit but some deals from it can be pretty good.
Right now there is many games at their lowest prices ever with the 33% discount on everything even for games already discounted.
Because I couldn't care less whether developers get 70% or 88% cut. The cattle used to get less than 50% during retail days and they were making better games.
>yeah frick the devs, idc about their cut
>what the frick, this game is only sold on that store now? frick the devs
>scratch that, frick them again
Where's the problem in that train of thought?
I'm just really horny for devs and want to frick them all the time.
I try to avoid installing overt chink spyware.
Why don't you use it
OK I will list then
>Missing features that steam has
>Timed exclusives
>Always losing money I'm sure I will get to keep the games I like when they go bust
>Better to have everything in one place
>Also can't forget they won't ever be generous as steam with refunds see the latest garbage disaster of days end
Purchasing timed exclusivity. Going after scam crypto trash. "Metaverse." No benefits for the user, every developer/publisher just pockets the difference in transaction fees. Everything from their leaked presentation about their store tactics.
Tim being a massive wanker. It's like they forget pirating is always an option, if I don't like you I'm just gonna pirate instead, simple as.
tim being a massive wanker and living rent free inside your heads is one of the reasons why I use epic store, you're all just insufferable homosexuals complaining about shit valve themselves did already when they started lol
but then again so far I've only bought 1 game on the store
but I never bought games on steam, I just pirate whatever the frick I wanna play imagine being a store shill lmao
>eating shit so everyone else can smell your breath
who are you quoting?
who are you quoting, moron
Unless you're buying some DRM-riddled multiplayer garbage, you should be pirating everything
Don't know why steamgays insist on buying everything
YOU FRICKING PIRATES ARE THE MOST UNHINGED moronS, FRICKING LITERAL POOJEETS, WHY THE FRICK DON'T YOU BUY GAMES ON STEAM DURING SALES? ARE YOU A POORgay?
>the reasons why I use epic store,
>ingesting shit so all can smell you,
you tried
who are you quoting?
How Timmy boy is still in charge of epic despite doing more reputational damage to it than any other employee I will never know
He literally owns most of the company.
Because it's a privately owned company and they literally print money regardless of his PR idiocy.
I'm a hunter gatherer who desperately yearns for community and Epic fails to provide that.
I just got Destiny 2
Did they gift anything for Christmas previous to this?
Yea I got 10+ games last christmas and some AAA titles too (it was like christmas calendar) but I have played 0 of them. They didn't do that this year? Haven't seen any threads about it.
They're doing 1 game every day for the 20-25th.
epic constantly put ads in your face
i hate it so much, ill never use it again, even if they put games for free
There are few reasons
1-I use linux
2-I dont like their "rules for thee but not for me" mentality.
By that I mean I constantly see epic games blabbering about muh monopoly this steam/google/apple that, while clearly trying to make a monopoly of their own.
I dont care about the free games, I can wait and buy it at platforms I care or just pirate.
I honestly do go out of my way to boycott most of epic games/services.
but i do use it and give tim money
Hate EGS for being too shit to compete with Steam because then maybe that fatfrick Gaben would do this coupon shit too, it's just so good.
epic has been beating steam at pricing during sales for a long time
damn, so you can only imagine how dogshit egs is despite that!
>game sales are cheaper
>STILL noone uses it
shame you took a whole 20 minutes to implement a shopping cart and noone uses it :/
>noone!
>nooooooone!
I'm using it 🙂
frick, Ill take the L. EGS currently has at least 100 users.....shame on ms
>at least 100 users
you're so funny bruv 😀
>noone
noone sisters? our comeback?
Valve wouldn't do it because it's textbook predatory pricing, the explicit end goal is for the bigger company to bleed the smaller company dry. That's the entirety of the reason Epic sells things at a loss, they're betting they can force Valve into a position where they have to do the same and then outlast them with Fortnite money.
for fricking years valve was known for LE HECKIN EPIC SALES are you literally 14?
Valve sales don't work like that. The developers are responsible for sale prices. Coupons bypass the developer and Epic pays for them.
those are likely to dry up in the coming years, same way epic dried up their money hat exclusivity. Now its some moronic shit of "0% cut for epic during your first million dollars in sales" so epic will take 0% of the 50 bucks you make on the epic games store, and in return you stay exclusive to egs for a year or so, so you might wanna invest in Top Ramen and buckle in
No, but you seem to be since you don't understand how this works. The prices on Steam have never been set by Valve, which include sale discounts, that just happened organically as publishers pushed prices lower on digital due to the significantly higher margins and longer tails they had. What this means is that Valve got 30% of whatever the publishers decided to sell the game for, no matter what they would always win money. What Timmy is doing is throwing in an additional discount, out of his own pocket, on top of the prices set by the publishers, this means that whatever extra Timmy offers is eating directly into his share, I haven't looked at the current coupon's math but back when he was offering $15 off of any game over $20 he was literally losing money on every single sale with the coupon. Why would someone sell at a loss? Look up predatory pricing.
damn thats crazy remind me why i give a shit as a consumer?
>remind me why i give a shit as a consumer?
Look up predatory pricing. Alternatively look at Netflix, Uber, and others who stormed into existing markets by significantly undercutting the competition, choked out their rivals, then proceeded to jack up the prices to high hell once they had established dominance.
You're right anon, but Uber is a bad example. Uber's god awful price hikes had more to do with taxi cab unions predatory lobbying because ride share apps are just better. I used to drive for them for extra cash (and I was bored) and then had to leave after the climate changed because morons feel like an app job should pay a "lel living wagie"
Yeah, every company has a convenient scapegoat when price raises come along, that's just part of the propaganda. It's the same as McDonald's making everyone believe that they will need to jack up prices 2x if they raise wages 2x when wages represent like 10% of the cost of a McD menu item.
I'm sure they'll become an aggressive proponent of increasing minimum wage after they've gotten full automation working
>Timmy gets out of bed, bright eyed and busy tailed, today is the day!
>were going to host the most legendary sale youve ever seen on PC
>all of our games are going to be 75% off or more!! fricking eat that steam!
>PULL THE TRIGGER, ITS TIME TO MAKE HISTORY AND WIN THE STORE WARS
>wtf, why do I have 1000 missed calls?
>spend the whole day running PR for your fricking clients who are threatening to sue you for changing their prices without permission
>meanwhile your "legendary sale" is underperforming because you dont market jack shit and the only way to find this information is by having an account on the store and launching it, meaning youve got 0 market penetration
Ya love to see it
how the frick can one man be this incompetant. Did timmy literally fail his way up the ladder or some shit?
there was a point in time in which Unreal was functionally the only engine you could use that wasnt some inhouse shit, inb4 some queer names an obscure engine and one best selling game on it. They also had some talented internal teams, like the unreal tournament guys, or the gears of war guys. Epic was still a much smaller company before fortnite BR so it all kind of worked out. then fortnite failed, they slapped the pubg game mode on and it sold GRAZILLIONS and they thought theyd be the next Apple, but they dont have stable income, and this is made worse with Timmy being so delusional that he thought he could intentionally game the apple and google market, talk about it publically, and in open emails, and then take them to court and have a judge go "no yeah, intentionally pulling all this shit is totally fair game, not only should apple put fortnite back on the app store, but now all phones need to come with fortnite preloaded on it and they get 0% of in game currency sales" He was an "okay" businessman running a not turbohuge company who is now being forced to make big boy decisions that hes not cut out for, fricking look at the guy.
tim was always a character, even before fortnite his mere presence at the helm of epic discouraged bigger companies from trying to acquire epic just cause they didn't wanna deal with him
laughable to say they have no stable income though, fortnite is making bank and doing better than ever
fortnite is erratic and its one avenue of generating finances. Words have meaning. They make LOTS of money, but at the moment they arent even financially solvent because of Tims fricking lawsuits and fortnites money is typically contingent on brand deals, I dont deny that its made enough money for everyone to live happily ever after, but the lawsuits are ruining that. Epic could be a trillion dollar company but wheres the money? legal fees. Its embarassing.Fortnite is very volatile and calling it stable is incredibly dishonest
Well he did win the Google lawsuit so he can have Fortnite preinstalled on Android phones, though presumably he will need to pay phone manufacturers for the privilege.
"win" is a weird way to put it. Samsung has been preinstalling apps on google phones forever with no issue. Its more like he won an argument that noone was making, he lost every other point
They always had a source of income + Unreal to keep them going for years but was never the money they had now. They decided to go full independent with no pubisher after Gears and sold shares to Tencent to get help into the GaaS model, which if you look back before Fortnite blew up wasn't going well. The new Unreal barely breathed, Paragon was direction less after the guy behind it left, and Save the World was another dud. Fortnite was saved and blew up after making the BR mode was made, owing a lot of success to being on consoles and free to play where PUBG was only PC and cost money.
This doesn't include Timmy's moronic statements in the past like shitting on PC and complaint about CPUs going multicore.
So yeah he kinda failed upwards and got really fricking lucky some Devs he employed decided a BR spinoff was a good move.
>buying """editions"""
the fricking state of Ganker
>xhe thinks that buying "editions" is a 2023 thing
editions have always been a scam and the fact this motherfricker got 50 EUR off two games and is still paying 50 EUR for them is a testament to how low iq Ganker is to get nickeled and dimed
>have always been a scam
>the fricking state of v
>don't get the whole game because... just don't ok?
very strange thing to get mad about
Its overlay doesn't work for me and neither does GOG's either. Also it was slower than GOG in getting achievements so I have games that I've already beaten that either don't have achievements on there or got it after the fact. I mainly care because achievements are good for record keeping so I know when I played the games.
Don't have much of a reason to unless I'm curious about those free games collecting dust. Also just hate opening yet another launcher.
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store?
Nothing really.
I primarily use GOG, but if it's not there, I'll get from either Steam or Epic depending on what's cheaper. I dont' give a shit about "social features" for playing a video game. Discord exists with people I know.
Everything wrong that the store did in the beginning already made me stay away. If a fricking shopping cart on a digital store platform past the year 2005 is a
>Ugh, fine, if we have to...
level implantation and not something that just exists when the platform is released something is clearly wrong with their priorities. And that is also something they have shown through many, many other things.
To name some of my favorite examples of EGS bullshittery:
>store is advertised more with how "favorable" it is for devs than for the customers yet it's good for neither
>because that "for devs" is just throwing sacks of Fortnite money at them instead of offering much else so you had devs pull their games off steam but still use their steam shop and community page to advertise, for feedback and community interaction because EGS has none of that shit
>going hand-in-hand with the biggest hypocrisy that Timmy wanted to fight Steam's "monopoly on PC gaming" (despite the hundred other digital game stores and launchers with exclusive titles) and yet did more to try and monopolize it than Steam ever did
the metro exodus shit left a bad taste in my mouth. Tim blaming fortnites lack of linux support on needing more programmers(thats a lie, it already runs on linux, you get booted by eac) LIE, Epics fickle attitude towards pc gaming which communicates theyre short timers looking for cash, the shitty store. the list goes on
steam has its workshop, sales every 5 minutes, easy to use, amazing controller support/customization, big picture mode if you want it to feel like a console, made by the source engine homiez and not fortnite homosexuals, Gabe is based and Timmy is a gay. I'm sure there are more reasons I cant think of
i only care if I can launch my game
but i also lived in a time before requiring 3rd party apps to run our games
Nothing really. In fact, I do use it to get free games. I honestly dislike Steam just as much and would prefer to not go through a launcher for most games. Anytime I can, I go with GOG.
This is something that ticks me off but their changelogs for updates to the launcher just say bug fixes and that's it. Reminds me of Origin where it was just overly general, vague and patronizing. They've been doing this for years from what I can see so it'll never get better until their new head does something about it.
>changelogs
we are digging so deep we're damaging the firmament of agartha here just to find SOMETHING ANYTHING to complain about
>an update is available
>please restart the launcher for it to be applied
>want to know what changes they did in the update
>stop complaining
Steam details what they did in their updates. So does GOG and their launcher is mostly optional. Why can't other launchers?
you can check the changelog as well on egs...
>fixed faulty code in manifest on line 277 that caused 0.3s longer loading under incredibly specific circumstances
>i sure am glad to know! i love reading changelogs!
Yeah? Every once and a while, they include a feature to the launcher that's nice to know. Like showing the install size of a game. I know that's an accomplishment for the store in 2023 but I would like to learn that instead of just seeing it appear one day.
im glad you fixed that instead of the launcher taking 5 fricking minutes to go from launcher to game, maybe next you can fix the fricking resource hog of a store youre running
works on my machine
But anon, I do use Epic.
>no one is using EGS
jamie pull up the fortnite numbers
console users
>changelog: bug fixes
>doesnt say what bugs, doesnt say what fixes
>still buggy
BRAVO!
it's literally a trello page...
I don't know how steam does "changelogs" but is a trello page not good enough for (You)?
>doesn't differentiate console or android players from PC players
i made the mistake of grabbing too many free games and now i can't remember which games i actually bought and want to play
I got gog galaxy, so I just see what all games I have on PC from their integration.
Same reason I refused Steam: I think that client set up is unhealthy for the PC space and do not wish to support it in any way.
They have no exclusives that interest me and they're also not cheaper for any games that are also on Steam.
At least with Origin there's some EA games I'm interested in and it's required anyway even when buying on Steam so might as well skip the middle man and buy directly there.
There is many games right now which cost much less compared to Steam with the 33% coupon on everything discounted or not.
damn, and the store still isnt profitable and you fired half your staff? that frickin blows dude. my condolences :((
>coupon
Frick your coupons. I only care about the sticker price.
What exactly is preventing Timmy from just putting a -33% on the actual price tags then?
the last time epic did that they accidentally sold Final Trantasy 7 and Bordertrans 3 for 4.99 and pissed off a TON of publishers
Because the sticker price is set by the publishers and they don't like it being messed with for a number of reasons. Timmy actually got in trouble with publishers for that way back when the store was new, because he unilaterally decided to just slash the prices without asking anyone.
>disingenous steam drone:
>steam doesn't set prices on sales
>also the same steam drone:
>why doesn't Timmy set prices on sales
I use it for fortnite and it’s got a game engine that’s fun to mess around with. I havent bought a game on steam in years since third worlders complained about old daily deals and now 30% off is the best you’ll ever see for worthwhile games
>unemployed neurodivergent autistic morons havin a convo about 2 stores that sell videogames for computers
: > ]
>buying digital games
I buy physical or just pirate it. Only a moron “buys” games from steam or epic or where ever.
What is the laptop/PC model for the person who hates Steam, hates Valve, hates the steam deck, hates Gabe Newell, hates PC gaming and wants an anti-PC gamer?
macintosh
or windows back in 2004
For me, it was the whole "muh 18%" crap. I don't care what cut devs get, because I'm never seeing a penny of that. You'll still force games at full price, you'll still charge me for microtransactions and DLC, you'll still treat me like crap. When the Kingdom Hearts series showcased at 300+ dollars (when you can buy the collection on the Ps4 for 30 dollars) that cemented how much of a liar Timmy is.
>tImMy mAdE gAmEs CoST mONey
>1980 video games costing $60
>Valve being a cheapskate and pricing Latin America over $1,000.
>Valve being a cheapskate tried to commit a crime to oversell EU games by GEO region lock.
Nothing about Valve speaks cheaper games, Valve only made games costs more.
Non of these launchers will mean cheaper games unless it's out of their own pockets.
Publishers will find any excuse to keep you nickle and dimmed.
It's poopy.
I actually do use the Epic Store. The only game I've ever bought in it was Control, everything else I got it for free, somewhere around 20 games by now. Most of them I've never played, like the Tomb Raider reboot trilogy.
Why is Steam depicted as black?
Somehow Steam sucks the least. It's wild.
Not being banned on my steam Rocket League aacount
imagine asking for permission from a 3rd party to boot up your video game that you paid full price for
It's why I don't bother with modern PC gaming and anything post Xbone/PS4. Still buying old carts and discs instead.
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store?
I've used steam for almost 19 years. I don't see the point of using others stores when I've got most of my games in my steam library
>i OwN mUh GaMe
>The crew a Ubisoft game became unplayable
Steam is not the answer gaming, it’s a dumb website with Chrome spyware.
>Wa multiple stores platform
>EA, Ubsoft, Battle net, etc are required to play the game
You have a problem anon, the launchers never went away it became spyware to sell your data.
I have literally no reason to download Epic Game Store.
I'm fine with Steam, and I know I wouldn't play any of the free games they offer you on EGS either because I prefer solo indie games most of the time.
Have Ganker really been seething about EGS daily for over 5 years now?
I just like watching garbage burn
probably unhealthy but fun
>unwilling to transition
Did you know you can have more than one piece of software on your computer?
my mom said all my video games are viruses and slowing down the family pc so she only lets me have one
client runs way too slowly
EGS is fine, then again I only use it to buy VBucks and launch Fortnite.
It's playing an obvious game of going over my head and trying to compete for publishers rather than customers.
Timmy thinks customers are just cattle that will buy off of whatever platform publishers flock to, and I won't gratify his beliefs of me or reward the platform that isn't even trying to do something for me.
I purchased two games on Epic Store
Red dead 2 and Satisfactory and I 100% regret to the point I might re buy it on steam.
Steam and Epic are dogshit.
For years I have stopped buying games from Steam because their prices haven't been good in years, getting fricked in the ass by other sellers like Fanantical, GreenManGaming, etc. However, I've been buying my games from GOG lately because I actually want to own my shit. The irony their is that GOG doesn't have deep discounts. At least Steam won't be rendered useless when it dies because of the Deck. Sike moron, even on consoles you don't have backwards compatibility.
>At least Steam won't be rendered useless when it dies because of the Deck
?????
You cannot use a deck without connecting it at least once to the internet. I'm pretty sure it has some moronic DRM built in too
My guess is that the Deck will give Steam a longer lifespan if it continues to be successful, that's what I meant. I can definitely see a successor to it. Wasn't specifically talking about some DRM because I'm aware you can't play offline for long periods with Steam games. My bad, didn't proofread my post so I read like a moronic esl.
Yeah, that makes sense. I personally will try to buy games on GOG. They have some nice variety. I don't really care much for prices as I play pirate and then buy if I really like it, if it's very good I buy the most expensive edition.
As a former piratebro, you should keep tabs on GOG prices. Not only that but research which games have missing features. For example, buying games with access to the Workshop vs GOG where they won't. As I mentioned, Steam key sellers tend to have better prices than Steam but GOG doesn't have anything like that so they're alright. Every once in a while they'll have something at a must-have price.
completely wrong on both fronts
homie aint completely wrong though. steam absolutely has limits to how long you can play offline
???
Nothing really.
Everything is on Steam though.
Although, if Tim is serious about giving me 100% royalty for making my game EGS exclusive, I'll happily publish it there.
Tim going out of his way to pay to reduce the number of people who can play a game instead of using the money to improve his client is what permanently put me off from giving him money. Even fricking grabbing crowdsourced games, it's absolutely disgusting. I don't even mind games like AW2 being exclusive, as it wouldn't exist otherwise, but I can't support him after the previous bullshit he pulled.
because frick china basically.
I just open it up to claim the free games when they offer them.
Will I play The Evil Within? Probably not, but I can't guarantee that in a couple years.
They did give me bloons tower defense 6 which I played a little bit so I guess they got me there.
only thing i don't like about epic sales is they make you paranoid about what games you wanna buy since they could give them away any day during the sale
like i wanna buy the ME remasters cause 6 bucks is lol money for that, but it also stands a good chance of being given away at that point so
maybe spent 100 bucks at the EGS.
210 items practically all of them free games.
Mordhau free was a good time everyone in the office grabbed a copy and made for a fun " team building day "
I think I've missed a couple of games, but I've been redeeming them since they started giving shit out.
None of the games I enjoy are on EGS. They also lack some key features like the Steam Workshop.
If EGS worked on providing a similar service to Steam (including features), dropped the exclusivity deals and just attracted devs and publishers by offering a better deal than steam (they already offer a better cut than steam), they would be a lot more successful and I'd probably use them.
Workshop is an unsung hero and it kills me more games don’t support it. Honesty I wish Steam had workshop (and cloud save) support for games automatically whether they opted in or not, frick Nexus.
The thing that kills me is, EGS sucks compared to Steam, but UE absolutely slaps the shit out of Source. I have the EGS launcher installed to use UE, but have no games on it. But if Epic did the legwork to make mod/UGC support NOT suck ass dick for UE titles, think of the potential. The “mod kit” is already there; the launcher gives you UE. It would combine the two ecosystems, with players using and learning UE to mod games on EGS, and playing games on EGS for the integrated mod support. I mean that shit is OBVIOUS and they still fricked it up so hard that devs who WANT to implement mod support for UE5 games can’t do it; in fact UE5 BROKE mod support for UE4 games that had it previously.
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store?
These days? Steam Deck
i mean, they could support Steam Deck if they wanted, tim just can't be arsed because canada or something
You don't support Linux, I don't support you.
Shrimple as.
any DRM whatsoever = no buy
Zoomies will never understand.
oh no not the
*squints*
0.005% of users
Try again loser.
you're right it's even less
1. epic offers nothing i want over steam or gog, so at best it's on a level playing field with platforms that i'm already invested into. the better question than "why don't you use epic" is "why should i use epic?"
2. none of my friends use epic, i have to use steam anyway to organize most gaming sessions. so not only is epic not on an level playing field, it's inferior to the existing options i'm invested into.
3. epic was trying to fragment the pc gaming industry with exclusivity deals which is obnoxious.
items 1 and 2 are the important ones; 3 just sours my opinion of them and is why i'm glad they're failing.
as far as prices, i buy games like 2-3 years out from when they launch anyway after they get deeply discounted (i use isthereanydeal); the prices i get this way are perfectly fine for me.
Because Epic screwed over and killed the Rocket League and Unreal Tournament fanbases
I'm using it for its free games, same with Steam. Never bought a game on there ($5 for a Humble Bundle one time being the exception if you wanna count that) and likely never will. I can see why pay piggus prefer the former though, Epic's UI and functionality are trash and achievements flat-out don't work half the time.
>devs put game on steam or GoG
I will buy your game
>timmy bribes the devs to keep a game only on EGS
Pirating your game is more morally correct since Tim paid for the copy already
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store?
why would i buy a game in there when i carry the risk of then giving it away for free a week later?
>this is your mind on FOMO
I mean I don't even buy vidya usually but that's just sad.
>fomo
that isn't fomo, FOMO is what the fortnite shop does where things will be gone from the store for a mystery amount of time
not buying something from a store that has a proven track record of giving games away all the time is just smart
You fear on missing out on the "profit" of getting a free game. It's FOMO. Or maybe reverse FOMO because it incentivizes your poor brain to NOT buy something instead of buying it. Either way, the term fits.
it really doesn't
cope rahjeesh
Imagine letting Poojeets live in your head rent-free 24/7. Sad.
>multiple anons saying they buy stuff from gog
you guys actually do this? i thought gog was the undesirable redheaded stepchildren of pc storefronts
there is some realy good shit in there that will NEVER be on steam like swat 4 or that strangolhold game
a game that if you have never played i recomend you to pirate it today
you need to stop listening to the poojeet shills trying to discredit GoG
Its great because it fills a niche that steam doesn't fill
>the undesirable redheaded stepchildren of pc storefronts
That's the egs, or arguably an amalgamation of the various shitty publisher stores like origin, uplay, etc
I use gog for games that I don't expect to get updates because that's more annoying than steam
test
test1
They try to play a santa claus in the world full of overabundance of free stuff, why would I ever care about their angle. Like, I'm a "mouse" with an entire fridge of food and the means to order more, why should I care about morsels in a mouse trap near the public parking lot, the reasons behind it, the quality of the morsel in it and so on?
Better question is, why is anyone buying games from anywhere else other than GoG? You do want to own your games, right anon?
who tf even buys shit from gog?
That's why I pirate from gog.to
I have a ton of free games thanks to epic. I laugh at the dumb idiots that don't know how to get a free game from epic every week and the morons that don't know how to use the epic launcher.
More than 50% of PC gamers have an IQ lower than 100.
Based 100+ IQ PC enjoyer
What's so smart about visiting a website once a week and claiming a giveaway?
PC gamers are the type of lazy fatasses that don't take a bath regularly, go to the toilet before they shit their pants, and forget to get their free game from Timmy.
>What's so smart about getting products for free that others are dumb enough to pay for?
Hmmm, dunno, anon, you tell us.
Another tard and/or zoomie who doesn't understand what DRM is. No, a CD key or the like wasn't DRM just because it made making illegal copies harder. DRM was always intended to limit SECOND-HAND SALES and the former did not do that. Some fricking vermin in a suit even admitted as much back in the day in an earnings call. Makes sense, too, since DRM doesn't prevent illegal downloads but does prevent second-hand sales. Plus, someone who downloads vidya illegally wasn't gonna pay for it regardless, someone paying money to buy used games obviously would.
cope and seethe homosexual DRM has existed in one for or another since the fricking 80s
Are you legit mentally disabled or just too stubborn to admit when you are obviously wrong? DRM is qualitatively different from copy protection mechanisms of previous eras. You could sell a game with its CD key and it would still work. You cannot do so with any modern DRM-infested game. This shit started with "Oh, it's still like a CD key but you have to do it online and only get a small finite number of uses in total" and got worse until it eventually ended at the absolute state it is in today.
Keep defending it though, dipshit, that seems more appropriate for someone with an IQ as low as yours.
>No, a CD key or the like wasn't DRM just because it made making illegal copies harder
moron
Once more for your Down Syndrome ass:
DRM was intended to prevent second-hand sales, not illegal copies. Copy-protection measures up until then, such as CD keys, were the reverse.
These two are not the same and you are a moron of the highest order if you continue insisting that they are.
>Digital rights management (DRM) is the use of technology to control and manage access to copyrighted material.
moron
>using some israelite industry definition instead of the one rooted in the real world and the actual difference between the two
Just have a nice day already and spare us both further misery.
Read this again but slowly. Nothing there addresses the point concerning its primary purpose being to prevent second-hand sales (a.k.a. access to copyrighted material in a way the homosexuals who came up with it dislike).
that's still rights managements you homosexual
shill spotted
>t. iq 134, averaged from 3 tests taken over adolescence
Steam is so israeli they can't do a giveaway every week.
oh no whatever will I do without a free copy of (shitty indie game from 2011)!
I haven't paid for a game since 2014. Switch from Playstation to PC. I've pirated all my PC gaming life so I wouldn't know the answer.
Paying for video games is evil.
The giveaways are to build up a userbase not out of kindness
:: THIS IS A MARKETING THREAD ON BEHALF OF TENCENT, IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT THEIR IMAGE REPAIR AND PROFITABILITY STRATEGIES ::
Me, I don't want to install the chinese spyware and datamining platform, or help undermine Steam's market position in favor of Epic's much more publisher-oriented business model. And once Epic, with the flood of money pouring into it, eventually overtakes Steam, which might even happen legislatively or judicially, with how much money these trillion dollar company bankrolled by the Chinese state, are trying to pour into lawyers and politicians to buy their way to the top by crippling Steam in any underhanded way they can contrive. I refuse to even talk about these ass clowns out of concern that I might give them undue exposure. Let those Black folk tongue my munged up anus
>chinese spyware
>literally zero evidence of that
Reminds me of the Shartistanis banning Huawei because protectionism is suddenly cool when it comes to saving their precious Crapple from competition.
that's all fine, but Valve is probably the most pro-consumer company of all time. Massive mod community, consumer-opinion-driven storefront where are held to account for their products, a great community feature, they really set the bar. And the sales. This is the biggest reason the publishers want them out of thew way, or for Gabe to die and some corporate ringer to take over and make the company get prostituted out on the stock exchange, to the death of its pro-consumer attitude. Valve refuses to become a publicly traded company because they don't want to have their products influenced by people who fund them. Look at all the others - Bethesda (now microsoft, oof), activision-blizzard (total shit), EA (hate even mentioning them), etc many such cases. ((stock exchange ass clowns)) who inevitably manage to frick up the creative mojo these studios cultivate over years of teambuilding and culture development. Soulless suits, pinching every penny, calling the shots
>DRM is pro-consumer
Did you get dropped on your head as a kid? Just because they're less awful than others doesn't mean they're great. GOG for instance is more pro-consumer than them in every regard. Like, it's got decent UI and functionality but that doesn't make up for the fact that you do not own your games on there, have ZERO legal recourse if they decide to close your account for shits and giggles (read their ToS) and don't even allow you control over which version of the game you get to install. It's trash by comparison.
>you can't like the best option
devs can opt out of steam's DRM shit and many games launch with zero issue offline
>many games launch with zero issue offline
Yeah ... in offline mode. Try running them without Steam on your PC.
lootboxes, games as a service, always online DRM, battle passes, child gambling
all things valve is responsible for
>lootboxes
cosmetics, also has a shop to let players ignore the RNG and just buy the items they want
>GAAS
What gaas has valve made?
>DRM
DRM shit is as old as video games, only difference is now you don't have to worry about losing access to your video game if you lose a cardboard cutout
>battle passes
valve is removing them from DOTA while Epic keeps using them
>child gambling
market lets you side step this, meanwhile fortnite literally gated progression behind lootboxes until court order forced them to stop
>What gaas has valve made?
they started it with tf2, but dota and cs are service games as well
the only reason they're getting rid of BPs from Dota is because they got bored of supporting it, they not only started the battle pass trend with compendiums for TI but also had the worst most disgustingly overpriced BPs in the entire industry while they were making them (if you just bought the pass itself it was mathematically impossible to even get to tier 100 and the rewards usually went on for 500+ tiers)
>market lets you side step this, meanwhile fortnite literally gated progression behind lootboxes until court order forced them to stop
the market IS the reason it exists you dumb motherfricker, and fortnite never had lootboxes in the battle royale mode which is what all anyone ever gave a shit about
ahh yes because we all remember when TF2 has half the maps removed from the game and you had to buy the season pass to get degroot keep
>trying to pretend the llama pinatas didn't exist
>doing gymnastics trying to spin being able to ignore lootboxes is bad
you're a moronic gorilla Black person i will not be responding to your bait and/or mental moronation anymore, gootbye
>streetshitter can't refute anything
Can't forget Early Access
>games as a service
>battle passes
huh? Does TF2 have a battlepass or something now?
Dota 2 was the first game with a battlepass, so Valve is actually responsible for that.
MMOs are the original gaas, thoughever
>THIS IS A MARKETING THREAD ON BEHALF OF TENCENT, IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT THEIR IMAGE REPAIR AND PROFITABILITY STRATEGIES
won't work because the thing they need to do to save their image is what people have been shitting on them since EGS came out
make the store/launcher not dogshit
stop holding games hostage with bribes
>use egs for free games only
>friends get me into rocket league since its free
>friends get me into fortnite since its free
>buy evil dead game cause it looked cool and i vowed it would be my only purchase
>bought alan wake 2 since it was half off and came with the og remaster and a fortnite skin
they got me bros....im sorry gaben
Same thing that keeps me from using Facebook and Chrome, they deserve to fail and I won't support them just because they're big.
I dont like it
simple as
>What keeps you from giving Timmy money?
i'm not moronic and people who get epic for free games are just as moronic as people who pay for games on epic
EGS is great. I love that I get to waste Epic's Fortnite money every week, and then never play the games.
well because
steam good
epic bad
unironically ans factually
the devs you suck the dicks of rush over to steam and they will gladly pay the 30% because they'll make more money on steam than they ever will anywhere else even with the 30% fee. williny putting your game on epic without epic paying you is a death sentence
>What keeps you from using Epic Games Store?
Chinese Spyware
I use EGS, but only to play Fortnite. I don't care about anything else it offers and won't use it. If Tim hadn't run his fricking mouth when he first launched EGS I would've begrudgingly bought stuff like Alan Wake 2 on EGS, but I refuse.
It's exclusively Tim's fault for why I do not support EGS.
Tim is his own worst enemy, he loves talking out his ass.
The major event that killed any chance of being an Epic Games Store customer was the Shenmue III incident.
I don't think EGS will exist as a storefront within the next 5 years and even if it does, it'll still be a shit knockoff if steam with predatory monopoly practices and run by a hypocritical immature moron and funded by chinks.
No fricking thank you.
I do.
I've collected every free game excluding 3 or 4 weeks.
Recently I spent about $30 getting the AVGN deluxe 1&2 collection, type touch tale (cause I was a huge fan when it was gonna come out on steam), and a super cheap version of witcher 3 goty back when they still did the $10 coupons, I ended up getting it for $9.99 (not a big deal now but a few years ago, super good deal).
I just don't see the complaints. It's harvesting data, but so does steam, so does every gaming launcher, and most of them are required for newer releases. That battle was lost a decade ago, or more.
I don't do any personal stuff on my gaming PC anyway, I have a little personal laptop for that, so maybe I'm just in a different mindset for how it might be shit, but I just don't care enough.
I don't buy much on it but that's because generally the stuff is on steam, for a better price. Only time I consider buying on epic is during their sales. These 33% coupons are pretty great, but it's rare that I really want anything that would justify buying there and having to deal with it running in the bg because it's just as resource intense as steam's garbage chromium gayshit.
In short, nothing, it just isn't my first choice because usually it's the same sales and content as steam, except you have to go through the extra steps of using coupons to get the same sale price. On the rare occasion it's better, I'll happily buy on it.
Also the free games are generally pretty great.
It's shit and lacking in features I expect, but the actual killer is the fact that there's no advantage to buying shit there. Steam has shitloads of features, GOG has DRM-free installers I can easily back up, EGS has literally nothing. It's a barebones shitpile, the exclusivity bribes are incredibly consumer-hostile too. There's just no reason whatsoever to ever shop there.
Unreal Tournament getting buried
No drivers for Switch/PS4 controllers.