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just as there is beauty in creation, there is also beauty in destruction
only good for nothing talentless fricks destroy things
Destruction offers cheap thrills, that's it. No platitude can equate it with beauty or any other virtue, short of talking abot destrunction of foul things.
>Destruction offers cheap thrills, that's it. No platitude can equate it with beauty or any other virtue
the monks made that though, they get the satisfaction of destroying what they've created. however, when you destroy something that someone else made, you're just a fricking piece of shit
Destruction is also a kind of creation
it's the opposite, while it does allow for creation to be done anew, it does not inherently create anything
This game series debunks your statement
o shit he's right
there is so much beauty in my dick destroying your tight little butthole
Just like how lonely bitter women sabotage the relationships of happy women, bittee gamers get their jollies on ruining other people's good times.
Misery loves company.
>nooo you can't roleplay as a lore compatible and developer intended character in a rpg
what do "people" who say this mean?
how is this real if most invaders are ppl who already finished the game multiple times with multiple builds
Only in DeS was the invasion system good.
It's been 14 years and it's getting worse with each new installment.
Me hi I do
welcome to souls, wiener sucker. Go play mario party if you want to have some fun with your friends.
i hate those weapons that do aoe dmg and stun you. its bs
You can roll through that. They're just bad.
nah seamless coop mod is the way to go
It should've always worked like that.
Why make that big open world with all those world bosses if you're gonna design it so it auto boots you after beating every single one? If you wanna go on a huge lotr adventure wandering as far out as you can with your friends, you have to keep coordinating with them to refind and resummon their signs almost constantly, cause I guess thought that too much change was bad or something to do with Japanese game devs and their crippling autism when it comes to designing multiplayer (see: Hideki Itsuno)
>crippling autism when it comes to designing multiplayer (see: Hideki Itsuno)
DD was always envisioned as single-player. Seethe unto eternity, co-op shitter.
Ok, so let's forget about the dd pawn shit for a second (which you're objectively wrong about btw, but I'm feeling generous)
Try to defend the frickin cameo system. Explain to me why they couldn't possibly even allow co-op in bloody palace when they basically added it to dmc3's bloody palace a year later.
Is he following some old design document that Kamiya left behind that specifically states that direct online multiplayer is NOT a part of his vision for DMC?
He just has superior taste and underatand that co-op is universally, intrinsically plebeian.
So you can't defend it, and you're clearly wrong, but you're still choosing to remain wrong anyway.
Wild.
whatever you want is the way to go
some people like ganking invaders
some people don't like invasions
Is the invasion scene in Elden Ring still active? I kinda wanna get back into fricking with people.
it's not really fun, every person you find is being escorted by a high level password summon
on console yes, it waxes and wanes but any time there's a sale it gets flooded with new chars/new players.
On PC no, it's been dead since like month 2 when the seamless co-op mod came out that completely removes invasions. There are 0 people playing vanilla on PC.
it's still kinda funny PC players actively had to mod the game just to include an easy mode
This is inaccurate, you can still get constant vanilla invasions at the higher levels in ER.
It's plenty active, but as the other guy said, you will almost never run across a gang of noobs, it's usually a mouthbreather and his level 700 buddy(ies) who will oneshot you because from is shit at multiplayer balance
The only way you'll have fun is if you get a build that can mercilessly oneshot the phantoms, then switch to something more cute for the host once he's alone
>then switch to something more cute for the host once he's alone
please
literally the first thing the host does in that scenario is run away once his 2 butt buddies are fighting you, to the pre-determined place where they'll put their summon signs down once they die so they can be summoned again
I miss when shit like this was possible in those scenarios.
I feel like magic and weapon arts are too busted now. It's too easy to turn fights into incomprehensible overlapping nuclear blasts.
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>thinks darksouls pvp is hardcore
>thinks mario party pvp is for casuals
I know you never played a hardcore in your life, get good scrub
Couldn't be me. I'd be the last phantom catching up just in time to see the host die.
it's always been weird to me that invaders feel entitled to ruining other people's game. the amount of seethe that coop mod caused seemed to be waaaay too much.
It was one Black person spamming threads every other fricking day for about two months. Most people don't give a shit and the remainder that do weren't even upset that the mod exists but rather FROM's treatment of invasions as a whole.
the invader only ruins your fun if you're bad
I respect PvPers who just wanna battle it out with other builds arena style, but people who just wanna frick with you when you’re in the middle of doing shit are the worst kind of gays. No different than the kind of people who break into other people’s cars to steal shit. Literally the Black folk of gaming.
actually we are the good guys
you are some disgusting smelly homeless person taking a shit (cheesing with co op) all over the beautiful public park (souls games) so I'm coming in and cracking your head open with a baton
>ERgay
>he's a moron
Very common occurrence I must say. Also, these webms are garbage.
ur garbage if ur complaining about invaders lol
Wow, these really are absolute garbage.
>complaining about invaders
Did you just imply Souls has good PvP?
bloodborne came out in 2015 buddy it's been 8 years since solo players have any real chance of getting invaded
don't be a homosexual shitter co oper and you won't have to deal with invaders
>bloodborne came out in 2015
And it was a good game. Unlike ER.
lmfao shut the frick up moron. Bloodborne is overrated as frick.
this tbh
it has an unique atmosphere and vibe compared to the other souls games but it's overrated due to its exclusivity, same applies to other ps exclusives - but unlike them it was an actual game, I guess
t. platinum'd BB this week
chalice dungeons are just bad
gameplay is even more one note feeling than usual without jump attacks and kicks. literally just wait to parry or light attack the game
very few pieces of equipment to find meaning 90% of the shit to find in the world is actual just garbage consumables. most of that equipment is exclusivity in the dlc or in the few chalice dungeons worth something.
some of the worse bosses in the series one reborn witch of hemlock shadows which is easy as frick if you just go slow pretty much every chalice boss etc
annoying world to get around
almost every level looks the same
annoying fricking tele back to hunters dream than tele somewhere instead of direct like ds
almost all of the good shit like weapons and bosses is in the dlc that the boss game barely feels complete.
bloodvials is just a bad system and if you just use the runes to increase your max supply the game difficulty breaks
genuinely people only like bloodborne because of its theme and because its exclusive just because gays like to feel special.
Preach brother
chalice dungeons were untapped potential but they were fine unless you grinded them to exhaustion
what the frick are you talking about there's jump attacks, there's more moves per weapon than any other fromsoft souls game
but every weapon is worthwhile unlike in ds where there's a ton of identical weapons and overall 10 decent ones in the whole game, bb weapons are by far the best in the series
but also some of the best ones in the series, every game has some weaker bosses
lol no
lol no
minor inconveniece, in ds you can't even teleport until you get the soul vessel and that's 70% of the way through and you can only teleport to certain locations
that's a very roundabout way of saying the dlc is amazing
bloodvials are good because you get your heals back and can just keep pushing, if you ever had to farm them ur just bad
ur just moronic
i don't feel like reading this, idc. i guess
tldr, ur dumb and you're shit is all moronic
write another essay coping
ur the one who wrote a contrarian essay no one asked for
>posts on forum
>cant read 2 paragraphs
>still feels the need to post the last reply
I wish mods would do their jobs and ban morons like this permanently
>please read my essay i demand it and even if you prove anything wrong i go uhh no
No
nah its a pretty bad game but uhh write another essay
>doesnt even use Gankerx
Frick off secondary
this is the only one that deserved it for being a melinagay
>bloodborne came out in 2015 buddy it's been 8 years since solo players have any real chance of getting invaded
>don't be a homosexual shitter co oper and you won't have to deal with invaders
Sometimes I wonder if people just shitpost about how badass they are or if they are autistically serious and think that them being a nuisance brings any sort of value.
Invading brings value on paper. In practice it’s either a metagay looking for an ego boost or the victim just hides at the bonfire. Invasions are super fun when the invader tries to RP as a mini boss or tries to blend in with the environment but that happens so rarely. It’s usually some metagay waiting at the most difficult section of the level or the host hiding because that’s what is optimal even if it’s not fun for either party.
>Invasions are super fun when the invader tries to RP as a mini boss or tries to blend in with the environment but that happens so rarely.
Huh, that actually sounds kinda fun. I've seen vids of people going against cosplays, like a Melania who took the armor off and began blossoming, bet it's actually fun on both ends if the people want to have fun.
It’s super fun on both ends when both players agree to have fun. I stopped invading eventually though because I was trying to make it fun and RP but all the host and his phantoms would do is turtle and gank. I would have a fun interaction maybe 30% of the time. It’s a great idea on paper but it doesn’t work in practice because most people are homosexuals that don’t know how to have fun. The average gamer generally just wants to win at whatever cost and they do it in one of two ways. They either metagay all of the fun out of the game or they set the game to easy mode (full coop summons in this case). I think they both do this because most people have baby tier egos and unaddressed neurosis, especially in gaming.
Probably the only good post in this whole thread.
that was my problem with it too, especially with overleveled summons that just exist to delete everything robbing the player they're escorting of any challenge what so ever
in ER when people do meta builds for invasions it's usually not to kill the host, you don't need a meta build for that, it's to kill the 2 homosexuals babysitting him
Yup that’s why I stopped playing ER. I was tired of getting murdered by pre-nerf moonveil spamming phantoms 9/10 invasions. I didn’t even mind the 3v1 fights themselves since it was fun running around Raya Lucaria in my Darth Maul RP build and fighting all 3 at once.
>The average gamer generally just wants to win at whatever cost and they do it in one of two ways.
And all of that just because they can't win at anything in their life.
I'm just a solo player and I'm not big on multiplayer or pvp, but the best fun you have in a game is if you fully enjoy it. The best fun I had in Elden Ring was role playing with my characters, although I've tried so many roles(samurai, quality chad, guts, holy knight, enchanted knight, etc) that I never beat the game in over 180hrs, but it's still fun on my end, living as another character and that's what counts. Kinda sucks that people would grind in this game as well like it's climbing ranked in league of legends.
The problem with invasions in Elden Ring is 100% with overleveled password phantoms
The frickers are absolutely invincible because FromSoft, despite having 20 games of experience at this point, are moronic and don't play their own game
If every host didn't have 2 godmode wienersuckers escorting him, invaders wouldn't have to go full on noobraper 9000 sweat mode in every single invasion. As things are, if a noob player invades he will get his holes blown out completely and never try again, and anyone who tries a "fun" build gets similarly stretched, leaving the only people still invading the dedicated autistic nolifers
problem is that, at the very least in Elden Ring, there's basically no fun in doing so
9 out of 10 times people are being escorted by a lv 200 password summon that will immediately open with the biggest gigga homie attack possible
Yup. It sucks because people don’t actually like playing video games. They like dopamine and feeling like they’re part of something.
There's no such thing as liking something without a neurochemical involvement. That's how the brain creates the feeling. If you like a video game, it's because your brain gave you serotonin or dopamine. Even if you're playing video games in your perceived "correct way".
You’re being pedantic and you know it. Most gamers today only want the dopamine hit and don’t even care about the game they’re playing or trying to understand it. There’s a big difference between playing a game for the dopamine and understanding the game that you’re playing. I wouldn’t expect the average moron on Ganker to understand the difference though because most of you don’t even like video games you just like the brain chemicals winning at all costs gives you.
Not being pedantic. Just stating a fact that if you ever had fun playing a game, it's because your brain dumped dopamine. You chose to have an emotional reaction to that or not.
Yes, but there’s a difference between playing solely for the dopamine hit and understanding and enjoying what you are playing. If you don’t understand the nuance here you’re either autistic or part of the problem.
>99 golem arrows
Don't cheat bro
based farmer killer
that movement tech
out fricking skilled
how do you afkfarm in elden ring again
SHOCKER! YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME!
>those insane skips
you just fricked up the webm conversion, r-right?
that's some bullshit attack and you fricking know it
>I respect PvPers who just wanna battle it out with other builds arena style
You would be a fightclub homosexual. Souls pvp is simplistic enough without homosexuals like you setting up false stigmas for invaders so the only "moral" way people feel like they can pvp is through this gay ass reductionist way where you neuter ranged builds and kill environmental combat.
>but people who just wanna frick with you when you’re in the middle of doing shit are the worst kind of gays. No different than the kind of people who break into other people’s cars to steal shit. Literally the Black folk of gaming.
So you don't appreciate the dynamism and kino of sudden rival fights that can take advantage of complex environments and enemy meat shields that can friendly fire the invader if they're not careful.
I don't even know what you and your ilk are b***hing about at this point. You have official arenas, and invading hasn't been the least bit balanced in invader's favors since dark souls 2.
You won.
You didn't deserve to, you shouldn't have, and it was purely to the detriment of the series as a whole, but you fricking won.
The bad guys (you) won. Congratulations.
tldr = So you openly love to chug wiener and want to call everyone else gay cause they don't. Good for you.
>So you don't appreciate the dynamism and kino of sudden rival fights that can take advantage of complex environments and enemy meat shields that
This is a really long winded way to say you use rot breath from behind the tree sentinel at SL20
Based
Cringe
Enjoy your opt in 3v1 invasions in big flat empty fields with no enemies, or your loading screen infested safe space arenas that have no effect on progression, summoBlack folk.
Enjoy crying on a Mongolian basket weaving forum because, as you said, you lost.
Yes. We lost the whine wars.
You whined the most, so you finally got the babyfied pvp you always wanted, complete with open world farmers that literally make pvp unplayable unless you're willing to sit there and help them farm like a homosexual.
Enjoy your barely functioning baby mode pvp, and keep being a proud whiner baby though.
I don't even play pvp. I'm just making fun of you for your crying post.
Enjoy your easy mode pvp where you get infinitely auto respawning phantoms on top of your two hand picked discord call friends using meta builds that you precleared the whole level out with.
I definitely will. Isn't it glorious?
It's insanity manifest actually, but to each their own.
Hope you're content with souls and you choose to leave my other favorite franchises alone. Thanks.
I'm so glad invaders got put in their place. What a loser you are to actually find value in killing other players with eceleb meta builds and poop emojis. I laugh every time I walk in a boss door after forcing an invader to run all the way to me. I hope it's been you :^)
It's fun if it's a legit spontaneous fight where you're relatively evenly matched. I think the problem comes from invaders coming in with builds tailor made to gank you, destroy your gear, whatever. Then it feels less like a fun side fight in a familiar area and more of an act of spite. And obviously despite the crying of the gankers the majority of players and From seem to agree given how they handled coop/PVP in Elden Ring.
The game is designed around invasions and is too easy without it. People made Souls from a mystery box to the most boring walking tour where you occasionally roll and press R1 to get more currency to buy stuff at the gift shops.
I've never been invaded because I don't rely on co-op.
I support punishing co-op. Good job invaders.
Got invaded once in Wo Long and stomped the moron. You can get invaded without co-op
elden ring babby lol
>babby
What is this ESL gibberish?
newbie
Holy triggered Batman
lurk moar
Lurk more or have a nice day. People have been using that word for ages.
lmfao zoomer newbie
You have not seen unfun in Dark Souls PvP until you have been invaded at low levels by a dark bead sorcerer wearing that shitty crown.
That’s what happens all the time. Invaders made a science of low level builds where they rushed down the most annoying shit to deal with for someone who’s all of 15 minutes into the Undead Burg or wherever and GIT GUD is their response lol. It’s so pathetic.
Happened to me once out of a 100 times in DaS 1, got a good laugh and lost a whole 30 seconds getting back to my 800 souls. Worth it. Grow a spine.
>Happens all the time
Bro what? Are you stuck in like 2013 or something? It's been YEARS since I've been invaded in dark souls 1, probably hasn't been since like 2015 since I got invaded in ds2 and I haven't even played ds3 since elden ring came out.
>ruining
Speak for yourself weak safespace baby. I love getting invaded. I don't even like invading that much since that means I have to get creative, but I do it to repay the kindness, and I don't care if some pussy ass b***h doesn't like it, they're not the intended target anyways.
>I love getting invaded
Pvpers confirmed homosexuals.
>always wait in an open area with no npcs, just want to fight with random builds
>meanwhile most hosts minmax, use mismatched armor for bonuses, have several buttbuddies spamming ranged attacks, run away to heal 5 times after a few hits, parry spam etc
People always cry about "first playthrough" invaders, but I rarely see that.
If you don't like the invasion mechanic then the game is not for you. Simple as.
I take it you've never killed an invader who was good
my god it feels so fricking nice to ruin their invasion solo.
I hate that elden ring doesn't force you into pvp
pvp in souls games is always optional
what's being ruined?
if you don't want to deal with invaders then play offline, simple as that
but how am I supposed to beat the auto aim overtuned bosses without 2 people helping me?
just pull out the big guns
its called getting good
if a random egirl can beat it deathless on a dance pad, you can handle it too you just have to try a little
You’ve clearly never played GTA Online
have you ever gotten invaded or been invaded in bloodborne i almost never see it happen even when i do chalices with the bell on
when i try invading i always queue for like 5 minutes and then never get in. the only time i actually invaded was immediately ended as they went to fight ludwig
I got invaded a single time in Bloodborne which was at a pretty low level before the Rom fight because I did not kill the bell maiden. The game is too dead for any sort of random PvP.
Not that many people care about straight up PvP. It's more about the thrill of not knowing when, what or where for the invaded, and for the invaders it's either finding creative ways to frick with the host or just a low effort powertrip.
Bloodborne PVP is utter garbage and I advise no one to try that crap
It was clearly designed by the same morons that made AC6 PVP
I've only heard stories about it since I don't care enough to watch gameplay of it. It sounds like it's just rally rally rally 20 blood vials matches take forever uhhh thats it i really don't know much else about it. Next time I play I hope I get invaded...
The worst part is the gun spam and dodge spam
try mensis frenzy area or frontier, getting invaded is harder and you mostly get griefers with shitty cheese tactics at bl60 and duelgays at 120
>actually fricking landing a charged stake driver r2, in pvp no less
holy shit
I don't get joy in ruining their fun. I get joy from kicking down the door and taking their souls to remind them the world is hostile.
Taking their fun is just the byproduct
Hurt people hurt people.
Sadists.
Invasions were never meant to be griefing.
Back in Demon's Souls most invasions where chill until everyone was running scraping spear or blatantly griefing with mercury/kunai items.
Unfortunately this underage thinking of invading to brick other people's games worsened immensely when Dark Souls came out on PC.
That's when the series died because of twink Black folk and gankers.
God I bet you're one of those gays that bows when they get invaded.
Matter of fact, I do.
Let us engage in glorious combat, and may the best one prevail.
I'm here to milk tears, not indulge your gay baby homosexual cringe normie warrior fantasies. If we shared middle schools I would've bullied your nerd ass until we got parents called and sent to the principal's office and then slapped your mom's ass in front of your dad before the security guard slams me against the wall for the third time that week.
Lemme guess. You would have been holding back against the guards because you didn't want to scare the plebians with your alpha-tier chad energy, right anon? Such a big man you are.
>im here to milk tears hehehe
>waiT NO WHY WE CAN'T INVADE ANYMORE????? FROM WHAT THE FUC-AAAAAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!!!
You reap what you sow, subhuman.
Fight clubs were Dark Souls at its peak.
>wanting honorable duels is nerdy and beta
>ganking and griefing others because you're a vengeful little shit that is constantly bullied at school is alpha and gigachad
I mean, you must be 18+ to post on this website.
You will get bowed at and you will get bowed at again once I curbstomp your ass
>Invasions were never meant to be griefing.
Invasions aren't griefing. It's a game and someone killed you, stop being a b***h about it.
Replaying Dark Souls today is lame as frick because there's very few invasions. Invasions are just a fun mode that present a nice novelty and enhance the gameplay
You are either a zoomer or baiting.
No one in Dark Souls PTDE gave a frick about invading legitimately, it was a griefing shitshow at any given hour of the day.
It literally forced From to implement Soul Memory in 2.
It wasn't enough, so they gave hosts even more advantages in 3 with the moronic summons.
Elden Ring is the peak of invaders being castrated: you cannot invade people unless they have an active coop player active.
It really does suck how much disdain FROM seems to have towards invasions/pvp in general.
No, only a few b***hes complained, and as a matter of fact, they're still complaining to this day and will likely complain until From implements a "skip tovthe end credits" option. It's just that criticism is easier to take into account than praise. Invaders didn't go to the forums to complain, they just played the fricking game.
>only a few b***hes complained
>all the pyro twinks invading after capra demon
>the anor londo Black folk
>darkroot garden being a FFA 24/7
Come the frick on, now.
This is good to know. I played Elden Ring for the first time yesterday and some homosexual joined my game and was undamageable. Truly fricking aids to have him walk up and poison me while my friend and I were whacking him with swords.
>undamageable
When an invader spawns in they are invulnerable for 5 seconds
That tracks. He was right in front of me when he spawned in. Love the game outside of that one skill issue on my end then lol. I was invaded a few other times and those were fun battles. I can't believe I hadn't played it yet
ds1 was borderline unplayable at low levels
guaranteed you'd get a pyroBlack person oneshotting you in burg/parish or just cheaters killing your save
Seems like we had completely different experiences... did you play on PC? Those guys cheat any chance they get in any game so I could see that happening. All the cancer was much less common on PS3.
DS1 had no anti-cheat whatsoever so pretty much every invader would just use cheat engine. I actually love invasions both as the invader and victim but I had to play offline eventually because 7/10 invaders would either just be invulnerable from the start or would turn the cheats on if they started losing.
OGs will remember the DS1 glitch that caused tranquil walk of peace to deal constant damage to the person who got hit by it. Absolute height of homosexualry. I remember getting killed in the archives by it and having no idea what was going on.
I remember doing an SL1 dark wraith run specifically to grief people in the burg. Great times.
>it was a griefing shitshow
Because it didn't have weapon memory, the remaster does for example
>It literally forced From to implement Soul Memory in 2.
Which was replaced by weapon memory instead.
It wasn't even invaders fault. Players naturally upgraded their weapons and then invaded as endgame. Fromsoftware failed to realize that would have been an issue
>It wasn't enough, so they gave hosts even more advantages in 3 with the moronic summons.
Doesn't matter, the invader can more easily carry estus and coops with better npcs
weapon memory does nothing, you can still obtain random drops and instantly oneshot al SL20.
No you can't
You can shot one pvemorons that don't invest in vigor
>implying
the astoria sword has no weapon memory and oneshots anyone that hasn't beaten the capra demon.
What are some of the most cancerous PvP builds from any souls game? Elden Ring used to have 1-hit bleed infliction with seppuku cross naginatas for a while which would even proc if you rolled.
Poison, wither, chaos or any other stupid status effect that cannot be cleansed unless sitting at a bonfire or with rare and expensive items.
The thrill of the hunt, of playing strategically around spawns, of using camouflage spells and the enviroments, of managing multiple opponents and separating the host, of nailing that perfect execution up to the killing blow, of making the host shit himself and roll off a ledge,...
only DeS and DaS3 had this feel. PvPvE truly made Souls a classic, otherwise, it would have been some above average hack and slash. no wonder pussies prefer from's other games.
>complaining about coop
uh, do invadegays not have any friends to play coop with? I'm willing to play with you guys if you are up for it, I only have DS2 though
>play dark souls (any of them)
>cheatengine: activated
>invade block: turned on
>friend: summoned
>jolly cooperation fun without interruptions: gained
🙂
how do I into invasions in elden ring
is it dead
I love being a stick in the mud that ruins people's good times.
I set my character name to "Pest Removal" and roleplay as a pest removal service. I always make sure to disrespect the host and phantoms as much as possible.
Oh were you having fun? Sorry about that!
>based kamikaze invader menacingly walks straight at them
>host just mashes R1 while his phantom spams magic homosexualry before also resorting to mashing R1
They deserved it. Host would've finished him off if they tricked him with the illusory rings. Host could've also not played like a moron and not immediately resorted to making huge commitments with UGS swings before he knew what the invader was about.
>ds1 invasion image
>elden ring webms in thread
dropped
heavily bullied people, and/or sociopaths
This. Basically a loss of control in one's life causes one to act out and attempt to exert control over others in anyway they can. Being a failure in real life can be coped with success in a video game. Same reason people who let the smallest amount of power get to their head, i.e. managers and such.
I didn't when I was younger, but 5000 hours of Ark Official PvP turned me into a genuine sociopath who can't see the good in humanity anymore. I eventually felt wonderful causing idiots to cry and beg in global after I steal dozens and hundreds of hours of work from them in ten seconds of exploiting into a base. I wish I had never played that horrible game.
They should bring back Gravelording for SotE.
Me
%100 agree OP. Every invasion I use a item to hide than go frick off. Frick the demented mindset of people who invade.
>invasions were so fun and balanced fromsoft nerfed them not once, not twice but thrice
Im still shocked they've kept them in at all
Invaders in 1 and 2 couldn't even use estus. In 1 they needed to use humanity which has a 10 year long animation. In 2 you needed to use miracles. Every single person complaining about invasions is a fricking trash can. Appealing to garbage normie players was a fricking mistake.
I’m not complaining about invasions. They were fun. I’m complaining about the type of loser who invades. Toxic losers who get off on others pain. Such a Black person mindset.
Nah. When I invade I always either RP as a miniboss or do funny meme shit that people don’t expect. As an invader you have a unique opportunity to create emergent gameplay experiences for another player. Just waiting at the hardest section of the level or even caring about winning the fight is fricking gay. The whole point is to make it fun for both of you and create a unique encounter.
Complaining about the people who make something possible that you like, interesting. Tell me some hypocrosies
>dupes divine blessings
>it's DeS pvp all over again
Nothing personal bro
>Afro is a troony now
This. You have to be delusional or just not have played DS1 and its height to act like there was no issue. And to be clear, I’m not blaming the people who liked invading at all; it was a game design/balance issue. PvE builds (especially at low level) just weren’t that effective at dealing with someone who’d built a dedicated invasion build. I’d love to see the stats on how often invader vs invaded was victorious because it always seemed to me like invaders were EASILY winning 90% of the time since they were set up for something the invaded player wasn’t set up for.
Invasions and PvP weren't meant to be mix-maxxed imo and their inclusion initially was an interesting mechanic but I think the way they work in Elden Ring is an overcorrection but it makes sense considering that it's an open world game. I think if they made invading more of a matter of risk vs reward on the invaders end, then more people would have considered if they should have invaded or not.
It also sucks that the item for allowing single player invasion has to be constantly reactivated. You won't ever get surprised by an invasion.
Elden rings problem is them being opt-in for solo players.
The issue is that PvP oriented players are usually min-max type of players. PvP is super fun if both players are just playing with whatever they think is cool or fun but it eventually always devolves into metagays invading people just playing the game without min-maxxing and it’s not fun for the victim. Nothing is more aggravating than getting invaded and seeing the invader using the exact same weapon and armor that everyone is posting on Ganker/reddit/YouTube/whatever for the fifth time in a row. It’s crazy to me that people will just copy meta builds, dumpster people not trying to play meta, and then brag about it. It’s a super weird mentality.
Invasions only got ruined by the mega autists who did shit like invade Frigid Outskirts every 20 minutes for years straight.
Sweatlords always either drive casuals away from the game to the point it dies (e.g. Mordhau), or meta their playstyle out of existence through dev intervention.
>Sweatlords always either drive casuals away from the game to the point it dies (e.g. Mordhau)
reminds me of that one loot shooter which died to no players because devs listened to the sweats who wiped the maps of noobs because there was nothing else to do at nolife late game
This is how it always happens. Metagays ruin literally every multiplayer game. Maybe .1% of any given playerbase is actually good enough to play the game for money or content creation but like 60% or more of the playerbase deluded themselves into believing they’re special too. This is literally every single multiplayer game. Metagays and esports are killing multiplayer games. I say this as an ex-metagay. None of my metagayging ever made a game better and it never gained me anything.
Yeah, I ban him. I ban him.
What's the context?
>hiding behind a corner waiting for them to show up
kino
What kind of fricking crybaby dislikes invasions
When i first played Dark Souls i thought it was the funniest shit that someone could force their way in and frick around
Please talk about your rape fetish somewhere else.
Not sure why you automatically think about rape, but facing unknown threats at every corner is literally the level design philosophy of Dark Souls. Unless you use a guide I guess.
> i thought it was the funniest shit that someone could force their way in and frick
You might want to look into the meaning of "frick around" or just phrasal verbs in general. Learning English isn't that hard, fellow esl. Rape fetish however, has a pretty unambiguous meaning.
How about i come over and talk about it at your house non-consensually
kek
What’s the word for shitposting in your language?
>Get some buddies on DS3
>Go to the Pontiff bonfire
>Pop dried fingers
>Massive free-for-all between us and the reds/faithfuls/purples
No fight club rules. No muh honour homosexualry. Just constant butting of heads until we're all dead.
Hot take: what if they're having fun and you're trying to ruin it?
DS1 PvP has dead angling, the most moronic mechanic ever which gets combined with people just straight up cheating to have infinite health or regen 10000 HP every frame.
Let’s not forget how fricking tedious it is just to find the invader half the time.
>ruining other people’s fun
Anyone who says this has a massive ego and personality disorder. Literally just playing the game normally the way the devs intended. Perhaps you should consider getting your head out of your ass and learn how to have fun.
>Anyone who says this has a massive ego and personality disorder.
one of the biggest cognitive dissonance comments i've ever seen on this site.
You are not that important.
it probably would've gone over better with average players if the immersion was maintained better when someone invaded
you're just playing a game and the flashing message appears with some dude's shitty username xXSLAYERXx, it's like you get taken out of whatever you're doing and it's like "oh, I'm in multiplayer now"
>invaded by XxxDarkPHANTOM69xxX
>is either giant dead or low lvl sorcerer with DLC spells in undead burg
>50% chance of cheating
invading would be fixed if it was mandatory to appear as a mimic. but minmaxers would seethe forever
Actually not a bad solution at all.
Fricking genius. Or even better you take over one of the enemies and control them against the host.
the average Ganker user
>What kind of person finds that much joy in ruining other people’s fun?
invading is inherently a high test activity so a b***h ass homie like you wouldn't get it
>invading is inherently a high test activity so a b***h ass homie like you wouldn't get it
Ah, I see, so it's truly a low-test activity, especially if you have to cover it with the expression of "high test".
There is no context where playing a video game in any capacity is high test.
nba2k
madden
Great examples of games impotent men play to trick themselves into the illusion of competition.
Black person
The people still invading in DS2 just seem happy to find someone. Had some comfy duels during my first playthrough a couple weeks ago.
I generally do hate the red menace, though
Ruining someone else's fun has been a thing since humans developed consciousness
Me.
I do. I find it greatly enjoyable not because I'm tearing someone down, but because of the reaction of the person.
I like when someone fights REALLY hard, tooth and nail, to try and win, and win or lose I'll usually reach out and offer supplies.
I like when people run and it can turn into an intense hide and seek or chase to see who can find who first (or if the host can reach a fog gate/boss)
What I don't like is people who want to take advantage of being online, but not the risk of invasion and just disconnect immediately after being invaded.
If you don't like it, maybe the game isn't for you.
Of course none of that applies on PC because it's filled with hackers and shit, I don't blame anyone for modding to avoid invasions on PC, I had my fill playing PTDE.
If you haven't had your heart skip a beat when you're exploring a new area and see an invader, you haven't experienced the breadth of the game, it's just a fun, different experience from everything else.
What even is the current metaslave PvP build in Elden Ring? Is it still pointy sticks?
Pretty much, yeah. People are waiting for the DLC and a lot of the classic lv120 groups are branching out and trying higher and lower level metas since it's all gonna get changed up.
only DaS1 and DeS has meta
the rest is just whatever
In general I don’t really get the concept. Like, if “random player jumping into your PvE experience as a new enemy!” was actually a good and fun idea that people really liked and made sense for games, wouldn’t it be the norm in the thousands of thousands of PvE gaming experiences that are the norm for the medium?
Like, no one plays a one player game to have other people in it.
If it slightly enhances the game for a 100 people who were going to buy the game anyway, but ruins the game for a single person (who will also complain about eveything else), the usual strategy seems to be to listen to the one person complaining. I don't know if that's a good strategy but you can see it applied everywhere.
I don’t think that’s what happened here. Seems more like the majority just wanted to play their game in peace in didn’t care for having the experience interrupted by a minority of people who felt the game slightly enhanced the experience for them. Seems more like a case of a vocal majority to me, not a vocal minority. And I don’t think From has a reputation for changing things in their games that we’re actually working as intended because fans throw a hissy fit. Usually it’s stuff that there’s evidence it’s a balance issue. Bloodhound step, bleed builds, Zimmerman, etc, these things were problems.
>play their game in peace
This is such a fricking lie and disingenuous argument. The people that say this make the game as easy as possible for themselves so that they can feel included in the discourse. If that weren’t the case you’d just play offline like a normal person and avoid it entirely. Elden Ring proves this with only allowing invasions if you do coop, which massively rigs it in your favor and you people still b***h because you don’t actually like these games. What you like is pretending like you’re good at video games while doing everything you can to rig something already designed for you to complete it even more in your favor.
Dude, the average player is gonna die more than their fair share in any From game. The game is only “massively rigged in your favor” in the sense that once you study it and learn where everything is you’ll have all the answers/tools to dominate your environment, but if you’re actually playing the game blind without a guide and not leaning on the stuff in the game (e.g. ashes, overpowered builds) that are deliberately intended to be From’s answer to the people wanting lower difficulty settings, it is just horseshit to claim that the game is rigged in your favor. It is more than enough of a challenge on its own overcoming the environment without some basement dweller who’s made it his sole purpose in life to build a character with the express purpose of taking advantage of all the game mechanics that most benefit PvP and disadvantage PvE build players.
People play games to have fun. There’s nothing fun about dealing with PvP sweats IN ANY GAME when you’re just trying to have fun and unwind for a few hours. Sorry you get your sense of self worth from video games or whatever, but get over yourself.
>can play offline for full solo PvE
>absolutely refuses
Hmmm I wonder why? Could it be that you want to abuse coop summons to breeze through the game? You’re such a disingenuous homosexual anon. ER proves me right and you wrong since PvP in that game is literally just the host camping with max phantoms to the point where only the sweatiest metagays still play.
the norm for every PvE action rpg when dark souls was released was to be so easy that it was impossible to die
guess dark souls should have also followed the norm on that one, it would have been way more popular
It is a fun and good idea on paper. Invaders are supposed to create new and interesting emergent gameplay moments for the host. In practice it doesn’t go down like that usually. Both invader and host typically do whatever they can to rig it in their favor as much as possible because to both of them winning is all that matters. Neither player, yourself included, is actually thinking about how this could be fun. The invader only wants the ego boost from killing you and you only want the ego boost from getting to the end of the level. You’re both two sides of the same coin. My best memories of these games are when invaders RPed or I RPed as an invader against a host that was actually trying to have fun.
Correct.
No, it’s not the same. What you’re describing is only a “fun and good idea on paper” for one side of that dynamic; the invader. They’re the only side working to beat the other player. Like you said, the other side is trying to beat the level; the predetermined set of enemies and obstacles that their continual series of trials and errors is making them better understand how to beat. They weren’t focused on or interested in the unpredictable random obstacle that is some PvP invader showing up to frick with their plans. And when the people who just wanna play the PvE game outnumbers the people who like the possibility of random PvP shenanigans, this style of PvP is not a good or fun setup even on paper.
>they weren’t interested in
You lost it right there. It’s a feature of the game and if you don’t like it then play offline. You won’t though because you abuse coop summons to trivialize the game. You don’t want to play PvE you want to finish the game so you can tell people you did it. There’s always an option to avoid PvP entirely but you never take it because you’re a disingenuous homosexual.
The majority of people are fricking morons so using them as an argument in your favor makes you one of them. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy for a reason you fricking moron. The whims and desires of the majority are fickle and emotional and thus unreliable.
Except we’re not talking about what’s correct or incorrect and saying “it’s 809 AD and most people think the earth is flat so it must be!”; we’re talking about the subjectivity of what’s fun or not fun for a game community. And when you’re talking about what’s fun for the community then the majority opinion of the community is relevant. Fricking idiot.
>logical fallacies don’t apply when it blows out my argument
Dilate with a shotgun, homosexual. You wouldn’t know fun if it fricked your mother in front of you.
Nice job showing you don’t understand what a logical fallacy is or how they work. Let’s play again some time.
>logical fallacies only apply when they’re convenient for me
Lmfao just have a nice day dude.
Yes that’s it, if you say it enough maybe it will become true! Keep at those mental gymnastics, anon.
Please stream your suicide. I’m not joking .
>it’s a solo PvE game and most people find that the most fun!
>it actually is a solo PvE game unless you opt in to solo invasions or decide to play multiplayer coop
You don’t want a solo PvE game. You want two of your friends to beat the game for you so you can claim you actually beat the game and feel like you’re part of the conversation. Unironically kys.
No one but you is talking about co-op. Not sure why you’re so fixated on it. I play solo.
Because you can’t get solo invaded in ER unless you opt into it. You can only be invaded in coop. Fricking moron.
Right, because it was a cancer when it wasn’t that way. Which is why the OP has a pic of invasion from a pre-ER game (DS1) which was what we’re talking about, and why the PvP invasiongays have been whining for 200 posts about how they miss the old days. How are you not getting what’s happening here?
>play DS1 offline
>no invasions at all
Again, you have always had the option to get what you want and you choose not to take it. You’re trying to hide that you abuse coop summons.
No one is hiding anything. Like I said, I play solo. Did it in DS1 too. I went offline the second I realized how unfun the invasion system was with all the low level invaders wielding dual Quelaags Fury swords in the undead burg. What’s your point?
My point is that you’re complaining about something that isn’t a problem because you have to opt into it. So you’re either opting into it by choice and getting upset or are mad the option even exists at all. Either one is mentally ill.
I like messages and using humanity. Not MP subhumans thinking they can leave their ghettos.
Just a reminder
>DeS: can only get invaded when human
>DS1: can only get invaded when human
>DS2: can only get invaded if the area boss is alive
>BB: can only get invaded if you didn't kill the bell woman who is loud as frick and tells you her location like a mile away, or summon a player but haven't killed the new bell woman.
>DS3: haven't played this, think its invasions enabled only when embered
>ER: can only get invaded if you say "i want to get invaded" or summon a player
Me, my only motivation to keep on living is causing others misfortune.
Used to make fun of people who Alt + F4 until ER released. Not playing against a meta autist using broken gear, spells and consummables while I'm like halfway through putting my PvE build together.
>ER
Then why are you summoning?
I arely do and only to rush filler bosses so I can help spread free Rune Arcs around, I just get summoned a lot and it's very tiresome. I immediately Finger Sever if it's to participate in some gayass fight club or exclusively to fight off invaders.
The real problem of Souls pvp is that outside of a few cases, invaders don't interact with the environment in any meaningful way. Invasions add nothing to the experience, they might as well be another mob for you to kill but with annoying AI. At least in DeS it was a novelty, but from DS1 on it just became another "feature".
DS2 is a shit game but one of the very few things it almost did well was the rat covenant and how they could actually have an impact on the zone and lay out traps for you, essentially making it into an obstacle course. If invasions actually had an impact on gameplay and covenants were more significant and distinct maybe pvp would be bearable, but as it stands it's just a shitty gimmick that they refuse to remove because it became part of the "genre".
Now THAT I can get behind. Bring back DaS 2 style PvP with more focus on the environment, like the destructible dragon bridge.
I do, but mostly in the way that I enjoy ruining the fun of someone who is already trying to ruin fun.
I like being as annoying as possible for invaders. Giant seeds, chameleon, anti estus charms, hiding near the boss gate, summoning as many people to fight him as possible. Etc.
god giant seeds in dks3 were so much fun. I would collect those fricking things every god damned time they were up, had an almost full storage box of them and any time I got invaded I'd just pop a seed then chameleon in a corner and let him clear the shit out, then try to get in and third party.
For me, its
>get invader low, hit him with anti-estus charm
>he runs into a crowd of enemies for safety
>i pop a giant seed and see him get backstabbed
Invader summons should be elite enemies that fit the area controlled by players
Co-op summons should be friendly npc's you can find in the area controlled by players
prove me wrong on this
Co-op summons should spawn the guest with a random build from a list including a bunch of gimmick sets like jar sets or selfdestruct sets.
jar self destruct was a fun pvp invader build honestly in ER
chuck jars at people, when you run out of your preset number of jars, activate self destruction sequence and run at them
don't hide the self-destruct sequence, do in out in the open so people can try to run away
ベッドフル
Bedful?
>ruining
I AM the fun
I found most of my invasions pretty fun when I first played these games. It's entirely opt-in, so it's not like I was very surprised whenever I got invaded. I rarely beat them, but when I did it felt really cool.
First playthrough when it came out I played blind, a generic quality build. I think now I have enough will in me to play once more and then never touch it again.
What's the most fun thing, when I can only choose one? Unga bunga STR? Sorcery? Faith or dragon incantations?
Why not wait for the DLC and then play it one last time? Also sorcery is powerful but kinda bland, in ER unlike most others fth is pretty diverse and has some cool stuff.
>summons have a hard maximum cap on HP, AR, and damage negation which is limited to the hosts values + 25%
There I fixed password summons, that was hard.
OH NO NO NO NO MULTIBlack folkISTERS
>buddy asks me to play ER with him
>he's not very good at Souls games and wants me to help him clear some tough areas and also explore and have some fun
>someone invades
>it's either a massive coward who tries to take potshots then run away if you go after him, or a sweatlord with some meme spam build
>still try to give them the benefit of doubt and engage them without cheesing at first
>they always resort to just spamming the most annoying shit imaginable
>at that point I just bring out the rivers or mogh's spear and finish them and we move on
It's a completely pointless system that adds nothing besides time loss, it's not fun or engaging because invaders are not fun or engaging.
what level are you?
if you drastically outlevel your buddy then of course invaders are going to spam their strongest attacks at you because you oneshot them
While I do outlevel him and am better at the game than he is, I'm not playing any meta build in fact the character I'm using is one I made just to grab a couple of the ending achievements while rushing. No meta armor or gear, rivers isn't even in my main weapon slot and I wan't even running magic but decided to add some fth for healing. The only invaders I even came close to 1-shotting were squishy mages, all the others have far more defense and poise than me and the 2handers shave off half my hp per swing, and my friend plays a mish-mash build of gear he finds cool, and despite having SoNaF I have to tell him to use it's abilities in combat or he forgets.
Not a single invasion so far has been fun or engaging, just sweatords trying to kill us and teabag. Mind you I have done solo pvp that had some fun dudes, like one time where I was summoned to help a host and he and the invader were fricking around with rainbow stones and I just left them to it after almost killing the invader then noticing they weren't actually fighting. But 99% of invasions are dogshit sweatfests.
Yeah it’s because the fun invaders quit the game due to overleveled escorts one shotting everything but metagay builds. ER PvP basically proves that anti-invasion gays don’t actually like these games they just want to be able to say the finished it for fake clout.
unfortunately you got caught in the crossfire
and for every one of you, there's 5 overleveled summons that simply switch to the sweatiest pvp armor and weapons once you get close enough
Yes, because the fun and engaging invaders quit the game because most hosts don’t engage in good faith and abuse over leveled summons to clear the game for them. Everyone that cared about having fun invading in ER quit the game.
I can't blame invaders playing that way at this point though.
Every time I come back and try to invade, it's never normal dudes like you. It's always meta dudes hitting the summon cap that camp next to bonfires or boss doors, usually with the level pre cleared of enemies.
If I'm invading I'm gonna be using the strongest possible set up I can come up with, and I'm gonna play as timidly as I possibly can, cause that's all you can do against these guys who have the pvp in this figured out to a science. Even then, I'm expecting to get overwhelmed, but sometimes I get lucky and I can at least take one phantom with me before I get rushed down by the the host, other phantom, and blue that just got summoned.
I used to think invading couldn't get any worse in das3. You never know you were living in the golden age until it ends.
It is what it is, and it's a pvp system that's balanced drastically in favor of the host instead of the invader. As the playerbase sheds more and more casuals over time, you're gonna get more and more of these results cause that's just how that endgame's gonna play out with the way this system works.
>playing Demon's Souls
>reach Storm Shrine for the very first time
>"you've been invaded!"
>black phantom is using a spear
>have a shield up
>your shield has been broken
>eventually ALL my armor was broken
>die
>get pissed off
>later learn what the scraping spear is
>put two and two together
>decide to spread the misfortune
>start invading people's worlds
>destroy their everything with scraping spear
>kill them
>receive email after email of absolute salt
>feel no remorse for what I done
I didn't do it for long because I would eventually start feeling bad about it. Really though Demon's Souls is some of the most fun I had in souls multiplayer because anything was fair game in terms of being unfair and ruining somebody's fun. There was a point I'd just rush at people with a blessed halberd and 9/10 they'd die before they could react.
it's called larping and was the only reason I had fun playing Elden Ring
People with a sense of humor.
Post more webm homosexuals
I deleted all my invasion webms a long time ago
>get my friends to give me the best I upgraded SL1 weapons
>invade at Sl1 outside tutorial area
>kill everyone and T-bag them
>get them to hit the npc’s occasionally
Get fricked
I don't mind souls pvp since usually going trough the game isn't that kind of a slog that deletes hours of progress into nothingness.
But i do have to ask to the invaders who clownsuit with bullgoat and just nuke people with bleed naginatas what pleasure they find in such invasions.
I think that at the end of the day the problem isn't found in the metaslaves but rather in fromsoftware being incapable of putting playstiles into an even level that makes everything powerful if used properly without having to steamroll.
bullgoat and bleed isn't for you
it's for the bullgoat and bleed lv 200 next to you
ER invasions have basically made the host irrelevant
The metagays aren’t doing it for you. They’re doing it for the two max level friends you have that are also metagays. ER really exposed a lot of fake gamers. You can only do PvP if you’re in coop or willingly opt in to being solo invaded, and yet you’re still b***hing. You literally can only be invaded in your solo PvE game if you choose to make it a multiplayer game and you homosexuals still choose it and b***h.
So you're basically telling me that all this regulations made invasions so shit that they had to cut out solo players from multiplayer.
People complained so much about solo invasions that they made it so you have to either opt in with an item at round table hold or choose to do coop. At first this wasn’t a huge issue as invading 3v1 can still be fun for everyone involved but it quickly devolved into the host summoning his OP meta build friends to beat the game for him. Usually when you invade in ER you are up against a scrubby host with two level 200 friends using meta builds that are beating the game for him. In practice they should have just required players to use the item you get in round table to enable invasions and just not had them otherwise.
>People complained
Source?
This fricking thread. Every fricking souls thread since Dark Souls1?
Fromsoftware doesn't browse Ganker, bro.
>the only people that b***hed were on Ganker
Are you stupid? Do you think the opinions and complaints posted here are somehow unique to Ganker?
There's no statement released by from devs saying that they received complaints by people asking to remove pvp for solo play though.
Does From even directly acknowledge anything from the community though? I can't think of any examples aside from something like the servers being broken.
Miyazaki apologized for izalith
>there’s no proof besides the literal game design
Get your head out of your ass.
They may have done it spontaneusly for all we know.
>but it quickly devolved into the host summoning his OP meta build friends to beat the game for him.
As if it wasn't the same in DS3. But your level as invader depends on the cooperators of the host, and Elden Ring killed twinking, so it's actually far more fair and balanced. The invader was always meant to be in disadvantage, wgeter that meant spawning with 2 estus in DS1 or being 2vs1
Hilarious
>it’s far more fair and balanced
You haven’t played ER PvP recently or if you have you’re one of the hosts summoning his friends or one of the friends lol.
I'm an invader. I'm just smart enough to use the many advantages invaders have rather than rush into a triple gank, like the fact that you can simply stall and lure players, use hidden form use Radahn's bow or simply outplay objectively worse players
Bonus points if the host summoned some higher level cooper and I can just vig check him
It literally doesn't matter. A good invaders can play around level design and NPCs to even the playing firld and ER is full of such opportunities, wheter it is an ambush or taking shots at a party fighting a miniboss. Elden Ring did invasions best because it embraced the nature of invasions as asymmetrical multiplayer mode where the player wins with smart plays and only needs to kill the host
This is what people that abuse coop summons think. This is not how it actually works. How it works is that the host camps near the pre-determined password summon spot while his overleveld friends spam you and don’t let you near him in the level they already pre-cleared for him. Then if you manage to win the 2v1 the host summons them again before you can get him. You clearly are either abusing this yourself or are just ignorant of how it actually goes down in the majority of cases.
nta but yea this is true now a days that everyone beat the game and just want to make gank squads. when the game first released and the few weeks after it was great for multiplayer.
>Love getting invaded especially on my first playthroughs
>See all these seething shitters in this thread who can’t handle it emotionally, writing pages upon pages of thesis on why it’s bad
Mind blowing levels of homosexualry
Dark Sousl 3 and it's consequences were disaster for fanbase
>be me
>play the Surge instead, because it's a superior game
I win homosexuals
1st, its a fricking video game. Quit crying, grow the frick up, and get a job.
2nd, its basically the same as getting pranked
3rd, suffering is a part of dark souls, an ancient practice from when games used to be difficult
1. Your complaining about the complaining is just as pathetic. Quit malding over someone's opinions just because it's Ganker. It'll do you a world of good.
2. Pranks imply a minor inconvenience, not a setback. Imposing your skill as a gatekeeping tool, especially against newbie players, is moron manchild behavior. Refer to your own advice from #1.
3. That's why the GAME is challenging. The difficulty of the enemies, environment, and of course the bosses, are what sells the atmosphere of the setting more than some dex-focus tryhard with a heavy sword spamming dodge. Frankly SEEING that, let alone engaging with that in any way shape or form, is more immersion breaking than getting bored of the base game.
Invasion mechanics are meant to be endgame content to challenge VETERANS who have had their fill of playing the game normally and want to see who's better at being majors sweats. DS1 making it mandatory if you play online, even on your FIRST playthrough, with the way to turn it off being an even BIGGER inconvenience, is why most people complained about. Nobody would have cared if you had access to it after your first completion of the game. THAT is the core problem. THAT's why there is a stigma around invasion mechanics in these games. And that's why Elden Ring finally making it optional from the start menu makes it a superior game to the Dark Souls franchise.
>Pranks imply a minor inconvenience
Bro you’re fighting someone in dark souls and possibly dying, that’s literally a minor inconvenience.
Imagine if this poor moron had managed to win one (1) single invasion on his first playthrough. An entire essay on why invasions are bad, poof, gone, erased from existence.
I BEAT invaders before dude. I kept getting annoyed that I had to stop what I was trying to travel to my favorite boss because some neckbeard crybully thought he was better than me.
I GOT GUD, now leave me the frick alone.
Black person types. Those who feel wronged by the world lash out at others
I just want to know why. I've never had fun purposely fricking with someone. Yes, I know it's a system the devs intended, but why use it to make someone feel like shit?
Because the intent is for the invader to create a unique and fun encounter for the host but people don’t actually work that way 90% of the time and just want to ruin someone else’s day. When I invade I don’t even care about winning I just want to make a fun and unique moment for both myself and the host. Good invaders are just RPing or doing funny meme shit and winning is a happy byproduct of that. Shit invaders metagay and win at all costs. Unfortunately most invaders are shit.
See, that I agree with. If the invader at least put in the effort of being like a boss, doing a pose before we clash and all that, it would be fun, but noooo, they have to be a bunch of morons and make it unfun for you.
My favorite thing to do in the early days of ER was use my Darth Mail build in Raya Lucaria before the dog boss. I would let them clear up to the stairs and then activate blood flame blade on the twin blade and start engaging. Felt a lot like when he shows up in the movie and there were some awesome running battles I had with hosts and their phantoms. After a few days though I started only encountering hosts that had phantoms with moonveils that would just camp near the grace site and spam the weapon art at me. If I managed to kill the phantoms the host would run away and re-summon them. After a couple of days of this I quit the game.
>being challenged and losing is "ruining fun"
why play games at all?
To have fun, I don't want to engage with YOU people, when some gay invaded Iet him kill me on purpose. Congrats guy, you killed me, you had your fun, now let's get back to actually having fun instead of having to deal with annoying morons like you.
whoa these salt levels
I'm guessing you just get upset with 'failing' so you like to escape to video games to avoid 'failing'
so when another player comes in and stomps you, instead of trying your best and realize where and when you are beat you just cope with THEY ARE MLG UGH WHAT A LOSER instead of enjoying the chance to get better
No one plays From games that wholly avoids any sense of failure. They’re not that much of a cakewalk. Get real.
yes I'm sure continuing to be upset about it will lessen their satisfaction
sounds like they enjoy it, you don't and instead of changing your mindset to also enjoy it you are deciding to... not have fun? gee, who sounds like the problem here?
>Ahah you sure beat me there, this was a fun fight where you did everything so I had as little fun fighting you as possible, let's try again next time.
You are the kind of guy that says you shouldn't get upset at shitty drivers, aren't you?
ah yes, let's compare a video game to a situation you can die or become paralyzed
it's exactly the same
also, you can't do much about bad drivers so actually you shouldn't get upset about it. That doesn't mean enjoy them though either.
Then why do we spend time complaining here instead of actually playing video games?
where did I complain?
Pardon me, sir, it seems I wasn't using the appropriate words to convey an adequate meaning in this sentence. I'm truly sorry about this misunderstanding. What I was trying to imply was "why are we here, me complaining and you replying to me, instead of playing videogames?"
I hope I have made myself clear.
>I’m having a blast being a scumbag! Sounds like a YOU problem.
Sociopath logic, I swear.
I like getting invaded so it sounds like you’re such a pussy your cowardice actually even translates to video games as well.
It's almost as if.... People had.... Different ideas on what is fun? Shocking!
>People had.... Different ideas on what is fun?
Yea, pussies do have different ideas about what’s fun.
Not liking people coming in with the express purpose of fricking with you is pussy behavior?
You know we are talking about a video game right?
>You know we are talking about a video game right?
That’s what makes it so contemptible. You’re too pussy to risk dying in a video game. That’s man made horrors beyond your comprehension tier homosexualry.
What?
This. Being afraid of dying in dark souls is literally the gayest shit ever. It's a part of the game. The only time you should be worried is if you get invaded while trying to recover a high amount bloodstain, but that's your fault for going human before getting your souls back.
I'm not claiming it's the end of the world, invasions are pretty rare anyway and all it means is you just respawn. But why do people have an autistic meltdown when you say you don't enjoy getting ganked?
>you’re fault for putting your progress at risk
So then by that logic you should never be in human form unless you’re basically standing outside a boss fog gate ready to summon for co-op, and no one would ever be available to be invaded.
We should all stay hollowed when we make an early game run into the Tomb of the Giants! Never be in human form if you’re in Sen’s Fortress! Your fault for leaving yourself open to invasion at such high risk points!
Are you having a stroke? He’s saying that if you have a shitload of souls on the ground you might not want to go back to human form until you get them back. Fricking moron.
And how is that any fricking different than any of a million other high risk situations in the game where if you die there it’s going to be a serious b***h to get your shit back safely and you should probably avoid things (e.g. an invasion) that greatly increase the likelihood of this happening? Are all invasiongays this unable to form basic connections?
>And how is that any fricking different than any of a million other high risk situations in the game where if you die there it’s going to be a serious b***h to get your shit back safely and you should probably avoid things (e.g. an invasion) that greatly increase the likelihood of this happening?
It’s not different, fricking moron. That other guy was right, you can’t read for shit.
>It’s not different
Right. So then why EVER be in human form unless you expressly need to summon someone for co-op which 98% of the time is going to be right outside a fog gate for a boss and would make it so that players are almost never gonna be available to be invaded? The whole point of his argument was don’t make yourself open to invasion at dangerous times when you could lose all your shit, but that IS Dark Souls 90% of the time. You’re saying invasions shouldn’t be a big deal while also saying it’s stupid to make yourself open to them in high risk scenarios, which is most of the game. I can’t make this any simpler for remedial brainlets than that.
>that IS Dark Souls 90% of the time
No it's not. Only morons and noobs carry around massive amounts of souls. Spend it or lose it, most players learn this pretty early on.
It happens all the time in a first play thru of the game. Take off your Soulsvet lenses and go back to when you play the game as a newb when you’re most likely to need co-op help and and don’t know where the next bonfire is, when you don’t know what’s around the next corner and if your stepping into an area with a powerful new enemy or not, etc.
Anon, I did that even LESS as a noobie. When anything anywhere could kill you at the drop of a hat, I never chose to walk around with a fat purse. It's only when becoming a vet do you get wienery and ignore your soul count. Level yourself up if you have that much, it's pretty simple. Most bosses give you a bonfire after you kill them. Homeward bones also exist.
Not him, but that’s just not how shit goes down in a first play thru of DS1. Lots of time I had spent my souls before going into a new area only to amass a bunch more souls in exploring it the first time but couldn’t find a bonfire, and then got killed before I could at some absolutely shitty place where my souls were stupid hard to recover. Definitely remember that with The Great Hollow.
But that’s my point about not knowing where the next bonfire is. Sometimes in trying to find it you went REALLY far from the last bonfire you were at. You’re not always gonna use your Homeward Bone when the last bonfire was at least 10-15 minutes away even if you just run straight there and you know theres likely to be a new one much closer around the next corner.
Your reading comprehension is remarkably bad. Not surprising given how much only morons complain about invasions.
Frick off schizo. You're only proving the anti-invades right by talking like a bloodthirsty misanthrope.
>You're only proving the anti-invades right by talking like a bloodthirsty misanthrope.
Lmao what? I don’t invade. I like getting invaded.
This isn't about dying, how many times does it have to be said? It's about people going out of their way to be buttholes when invading.
You can justify it with all kinds of arguments, but at the end of the day, they ARE acting like buttholes on purpose, not to make the game fun for you as some here had said.
What does it matter what they want, it seems most people ITT don't invade for these reasons going by what they say, but even if your strawman is right, their intentions shouldn't matter at all. I have fun getting invaded, and whether the invader was out to grief me or just have fun, I couldn't care less.
Then why do you care if a few players don't like invasions? Or rather, don't like unfun invaders?
I don't care as long as they're not asking From to ruin the game and remove optional content like invasion.
They would never remove invasion and you know it. At worse, they'll make it optional.....
Also
>"ruin the game"
All From games are ruined on arrival.
A lot of people are sociopath and you are expected to behave like them, it's insane. Like the high time of "Prank" on youtube which turned everyone's brain into mush and they all wanted to do prank too, like fricking monkeys copying what they see.
This isn't about failing, failure can be fun, you can learn from your mistakes and become better. It's about gays that make it unfun on purpose just so they feel better about having beaten someone and made them upset.
Don't get me wrong an invasion with someone who is specced out in similar gear is a lot of fun, even if they are stomping you it at least feels fair. It's the META gaming where you have no chance that is just kind of boring.
What is the point when I die in two hits and I can barley remove a pixel from the invaders healthbar?
You’re one of those people that goes 100% when he plays his 6 year old nephew in basketball.
Getting one-shotted by someone META gaming with 500+ hours of PVP experience is less of a genuine fun challenge and more the game just randomly deciding to end your run and force you to respawn.
>Someone has better equips than me so I don’t have any chance of winning, the game is already decided, I swear
Fatherless behavior
It's a videogame, it's not life. You just don't blindly go into something you know you will lose without having a chance. They do this with the express purpose of shitting on you, not having fun with you.
Elden Ring making the invasion mechanic opt-in before play was the best decision FromSoft made. Starving tryhards of newbie tears and "git guds" and pretending not to be piss-baby mad about it on Ganker has been more entertaining than watching any invade compilation I've ever seen on YouTube.
Anyway I'm going back to having FUN with my games.
Gang members that joined the government
I invade because it's fun, and a rejoice whenever I get invaded. I have been using Furled Finger/Taunter's Tongue.
Low-testosterone men fear and resent competition. They are instinctively aware of their inferiority.
>implying ambush and ganging-up tactics are high testosterone
pathetic
Mentally ill people who don't feel bad when they're mean to other people. It really is as simple as that.
mentally ill people. the same people who think about the perfect crime, killing people and choosing evil npc dialogue
>invade someone
>if theyre alone and katanaless, observe and approach when theyre done clearing an area, fight them unless theyre clearly completely new
>if i see them again, i gift them spare items
>if they coop, go all out just this once sensei so they have a slightly harder time in their easy run
Jews
Women
israeli women
Scraping spear was pure evil. I miss DeS invasions.
Scraping Spear was the quintessential weapon for "losing the fight, but winning the war"
>enemy beats you
>they still have to pay 12k to repair all their shit
and if you beat them, well you won both.
Half of the invadercucks defending their cheese builds are the same dudes who were getting btfo'd on left 4 dead back in the day when playing the infected.
You can disable pvp feature completely if you want to. Pvp was always optional
It’s been a while since I’ve played DS1, but wasn’t there all kinds of other shit tied to being online besides the ability to co-op summon (eg read player messages) that made is sort of silly to have to be offline entirely to not deal with annoying invasions?
I loved getting invaded really
in watch dogs I mean
it was ok in dark souls but it just meant I couldnt progress until I won or lost, felt like a roadblock
Interrupting this thread for a semi-off topic poll:
We can all agree DS2 had the best gestures right?
Absolutely
DaS1 shrug still the best.
I just want the ds1 shrug back….
is that so much to ask?
Was that the one where they hold their arms out? There's an improved version of it in the old Monster Hunter games where they do that and then start flexing their arms.
Yeah in MH he does that, then turns his back to you and starts waving for you to come over, like "c'mere motherfricker".
The problem is you never get invaded by anyone looking for a fair fight. It's always a dark magic spammer (DS2) or twinker (BB) that does 70% of your health in one hit while you barely scratch his healthbar. These games CLAIM to have matchmaking but they don't.
Why would an invader be looking for a fair fight? Invasions are about getting resources. Getting your body form back, getting humanity, getting rune arcs, etc. You're there to ambush and murder the host, get your shit, and get out.
In theory yes, but we both know 99% of invaders don't give a shit about any of that.
My point is that nothing about the concept lends itself to the idea of a "fair fight". Why would you EVER expect that in the first place? The entire system incentivizes you to be a huge dick. All the NPCs that suggest killing other humans for their humanity and do so themselves are huge dicks like Lautrec and Petrus and Kaathe. It's a dick thing to do. Anyone wanting or expecting a fair fight is moronic.
You stupid butthole. The invaded can just unplug their internet connection. And according to you, they should be incentivized to.
>B-BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR!
See? Now you're getting it.
>Invaders using dark magic or twink characters are the same as hosts disconnecting
This board is just full of underage morons and third world homosexuals on weekends.
Why should it be fair? Bosses are not fair either, they got a bigger health pool than you, dont stagger as easily, do a shit ton of damage, regular mobs swarm you. Nothing about it is fair so?
Bosses are fairer than any human player would ever be.
By what metric?
I dunno, I never played any From games.
You know you can play offline right? I can't imagine being this moronic haha.
I was a stupid highschooler at the time. Of course I was moronic!
I don't think most people are expecting a gentleman's duel or anything. But it's a fair bit between a fellow PVE player trying to score some humanity and someone just there just to gank you for the hell of it.
>Invasions are about getting resources.
I thought they were about having fun, PvP farming doesn't seem like much fun honestly.
It was fun when it was a novel multiplayer system in a game that supported that kind of design but they kept innovating on the gameplay while tacking on the same multiplayer system every time with barely any changes so now it just feels like shit. Throw in the homosexuals that try to take a fricking invasion system and turn it into an honorable duel pvp scene and I lose all interest.
yeah, when is the DLC coming out though
Invasions are fine in my book what isnt fine is invading low level players with your bullshit builds I remember having to turn off DS2 online because some frick would keep invading with this lightning crossbow build that would hit me from the other side of China
You ruin the fun for yourself by being a pissbaby about it. I dont invade when playing from software games but getting inavded is really fun, because im not used to pvp its always a thrill, having odds stacked against you is at the very core of the game and invasion system plays very well into that.I went through the entire elden ring with pvp enabled without summoning anyone and it was probably one of the most fun I ever had multiplayer wise in a game. Im also pretty shit at these games in general so when I did get the kill it felt more rewarding than any boss in the game, especially when it was someone with that edgy katana, pounding those into the ground will never not be fun.
>one of the most fun experiences I ever had
whoops
I genuinely think that fragile ego is why 99% of people dont like pvp in these games. (same reason a lot of people avoid multiplayer games alltogether) Most people cant take a defeat like you, to them its an insult to their character, they got bested so they get all pissy about it, but they cant admit it so they have to come up for excuses instead of just owning up to it. As much of a stretch as it is probably just a lack of strong father figure
Can you explain me how to have fun like that? Genuine, no joke on my part or anything. I tried, I try to see it any other way, I try, but in the end, this isn't fun, I'm not having fun when it happens, and I don't know what to do do change it.
I'm NTA but I feel the same way as him. Nothing will replace the feeling of trudging through some dank dungeon, low on health, and then seeing the dreaded message...
>DARK SPIRIT XxASSFRICKERxX HAS INVADED
You start sweating, you don't know where he is, and then you see him... That ominous bright blood red phantom beelining for you. Pure high octane fun. At least it was in earlier dark souls. Now you can't get invaded without having coop phantoms and you have a massive advantage against the invader. Makes it fairly boring.
What you describe at the beginning, the sweating and stuff. I never felt like that, in any games. That's why I'm asking.
I was being a bit exaggerative, but basically I was just saying that being invaded can be thrilling in a fun way. It all depends on how invested you are in the game I guess, or the stakes.
is it worth disabling my mods to play elden ring pvp?
No it's basically dead. ER PvP is shit and boring.
I think so, yeah. You should get a character ready before the DLC comes out.
Plenty of activity for co-op and invading at the level 50 range with half upgraded weapons.
Plus with the poise changes, you can outplay bloodhound step/seppuku bullgoat's dual naginata homosexuals
>25 vigor
You don't need to be a metahomosexual to invade with end game weapons
Most souls players are really bad especially in pvp. it blows my mind they cope you need a build for pvp which just isn't true. they will happily roll into you and get blown up regardless
True, you don't really "need a build" but you do need to get to mountaintops of the giants at a low level and low weapon range to get access to all the stuff you might need, talismans, areas to invade in, and weapons you feel like using.
If I'm not happy with my life what should anyone else get to be happy? Frick you. I think the world is shit and you will too.
All 133 posters in this thread can agree on one thing
Bluegays get the rope
I had a build in ds3 where that was designed to just run away from invaders, and was almost impossible to hit. Every time a blue came I would silence him and then point down.
I made a pvp build specifically to frick with blues.
Sometimes I don't even bother attacking the host since most of them just wait like passive homosexuals anyway.
So, what was so bad at Blues exactly? Genuinely curious.
They borderline don't exist so I don't know what anyone is complaining about. But they're basically like host defenders that get summoned in when someone gets invaded. Like police or something. At least they would if the system wasn't broken 90% of the time.
They are basically the fun police. With ds3 you will usually get yanked when invading, plus you get some blue butthole.
Luckily they usually suck
So back in dark souls 1, there were covenants.
You would invade in covenants to get specific rewards.
But the invasion system is different now, so you always invade people higher level and weapon upgrades than you, the opposite is for blue phantoms. So with the removal of covenant rewards, blue phantoms are usually people that make twink homosexual invader builds specifically to frick with twink homosexual invaders.
In DS1 blues were basically hitmen. You invade someone and they indict you? You're in the bingo book now.
In DS3 you would be summoned randomly to help the host kill the invader. It's the hardest covenant to level up because you barely get summoned and they almost never do anything, blues are useless
In ER they get priority over a 2nd invader except half the time they spawn a mile away.
>invasions are part of the game, there's nothing wrong with it
>oh no a blue this isn't fair
reds being buttmad
usually people with something very wrong in their lives
A scoundrel of the worst sort. This is why a Limgrave gank squad is always something a participate in.
I miss being invaded solo.
Has anyone else noticed a massive uptick in the number of infinite instant heal hackers this game has? It seems like 1/10 of all invaders now use a heal hack or infinite health hack of some sort. What happened to the honor in invading?
Welcome to dark souls multiplayer a year or so after they release. I remember dealing with people like that in DS1 all the time on console.
Someone higher in the thread explained it. There is no honor. You invade or get invaded, and you either get killed like a loser or defeat them.
On PC? no.
On PS4/PS5? Yes.
At "meta" level you will encounter cheaters and homosexuals.
Low/Mid level players don't really cheat, but they do set up gank squads and alt+f4.
Being invaded is fun. I refuse to believe the host isn’t having fun when he’s got 2 other guys trying to kill me and we’re running all over the place and I’m doing wacky guérilla tactics to take them out one by one.
i remember when you put your summon sign down in malenia‘s room and it took less than 2 seconds to get summoned.
Oh how I yearn for those days again
Every time FROM releases a new one of these games the multiplayer gets even more split.
The souls trilogy is long dead on console. Dark souks 1 is hanging on by a thread on PC. Dark souls 2 is doing okay but soul memory is still fricked, and a good bunch of people in ds3 left for Elden Ring
Soul memory really isn't even the worse system. weapon matchmaking is by far the worse restriction they have ever created, and soul memory is usually pretty generous outside of the early level brackets being kind of small which is the part of the game you want more restrictive anyways. unpopular opionon but i prefer over a strict 10 level bracket tbh. by the time you get to mid game you can connect with people that are dozens of levels apart from you and also people don't want to admit it but it did help against twinking which was the whole point.
its just pvp anon, why are you so unhinged you have to imagine someone is getting off on killing you in it.
>you're being invaded by X
>MOOOOOM unplug the internet
>*Mom unplugs the internet*
>comfy gaming acquired
if you complain about invaders in 2023 it means you are a coop troony so keep seething
I like disconnecting when somebody invades in a Fromshit game just because I know they're on the other side getting frustrated from repeatedly invading just to get stuck in loading screens
impromptu pvp in a mostly single player game that can happen anywhere same as coop is still one of the coolest ideas souls has created and part of its identity as a series.
my real issue is that the hosts just wait at bonfire or whatever when they been invaded like its a dual.
You're fundamentally misunderstanding the mindset the creators had. In the east, many creative projects and works in general take a less of an analytical approach than in the west. The game is meant to be experienced as the host player. If getting invaded or summoning phantoms are just things a player can do. It's the nature of the game. Invasions are not really meant to be pvp in the competitive sense, but just a more interesting enemy for the player to kill. If you invade or put a summon sign down, you're just engaging in bonus content, not the meat of the game.
Invaders are the equivalent of high level MMO players attacking low levels/new accounts.
The homosexual hyper autist who is constantly sperging out about the Elden Ring co-op mod """""killing off pvp""""" in ER is 110% the ultra sweaty tryhard no-life who instantly rips out his ethernet cord if he loses in pvp.
Just look at AC6 pvp, soulsgays treat it the exact same way. I've seen thousands upon thousands of pvp clips where someone wins even one round out of 2 needed to win and the pussies just instantly pull the plug. They're even faster if someone beats them with an off meta build too.
That's why people don't do pvp in these games, on top of the horrific netcode.
uh huh whatever you need to tell yourself shitter
>e-everyone who hates my homosexualy attitude is just b-bad at the game
You are 110% the kind of person who would get off on stomping their IRL friends at a party game like Smash which they never played before.
Sperging out and flailing your arms around that random people online don't want to engage in that behavior is really pathetic.
SCD (seethe, cope, dilate).
"yeah dude i seen thosands of videos of uhhh ~~*Group of people i dont like*~~ be bad and epic dc"
huh uh sure pal
>less than 1/13th of the total amount of sales on PC actually use the mod
>these people who were never interested PVP anyway and never joined in """""ruined PVP""""" in your eyes
>a literal minority of players, less then 7.7%, who never touched PVP somehow """""ruined PVP"""""
>not the ultrahomosexual "need to preserve my win/loss ratio at all costs" mindset homos who just pull the plug on loss
Doesn't work that way turbosperg, use your brain for one second instead of lashing out emotionally like a woman.
Maybe it's time to have some self awareness for once and some introspection before pointing fingers.
> a lot of people get really mad about dying to someone because there bad they download a qol coop mod that just so happens to also disable invasions because its a mod
>this somehow means i seen thousands of pvp videos of the epic pvp tryhard being destroyed epic style and they have an epic melty in ac6
uh huh. i don't really care dude i haven't touched souls pvp since elden ring came out and it was mid as frick but its funny you gays are still crying about being destroyed this much
>conveniently forgets that PVP is entirely optional in the base game for ER anyway
>decides to shit his diaper over a mod
You literally have no argument here, competitive-troony.
>d-doesn't count
Go watch any Souls PVP on youtube, bare minimum, there is usually at least 2 plug pullers in any given video.
>I don't really care
Mmmhm, I'm sure you'll still be repeating this in a few hours after autistically responding within minutes to every one of my posts.
And I'm sure you "don't really care" even though you've made and responded with this copypasted crying about co-op for at least 100 OPs this year alone
lmfao
It isn't. The base, un-modded version of ER PVP is entirely optional from the get-go anyway.
It's just supremely mentally ill PVPtroons seething that they don't get to invade new players with their twink builds like in the Souls series where they gave themselves Dark Bead + full Havel armor.
They'd maybe have a leg to stand on here if From could implement good netcode, but twinkhomosexualry on top of that is the perfect recipe for killing off PVP, outside of metaslaves who just rage quit for any imminent loss.
>1 million downloads out of 20 million sales
So this is an epidemic how? Literally 95% of the player base have never touched this mod
just more proof that the massive majority of FromSoft sales are on ChadStation
ER is still active there
if only a million people use this mod and the game is super dead on PC as has been confirmed by many then I'd say there's probably about 16 million of those sales are on ChadStation
Steam probably makes up about 3 mil and another mil on Shitbox makes up the rest
me, homosexual
Seeing this thread, I gotta ask. Do you really platinum games or play multiplayer with total strangers from the internet from the get go?
So much autistic kino in this thread, PvP Fromshit threads always deliver.
Me. Any PvP that involves being able to psychologically traumatize another player activates my almonds harder than anything else on this gay earth.
Only virgins play soulsshit
What game has the most active invasions? I played through all of DS1 and 2 and only got invaded once.
Elden Ring, but you need to either co-op or use the taunter's tongue, sadly. If you're playing through the series you might still get invaded in DS3 if it's a weekend but it's dying for sure
It's not about ruining other people's fun, it's just part of the game and it's just cool to be able to make your own guy and then take it into another player's world. I don't bring super powerful gear against low level players, instead I just try to play with stuff I find fun or interesting. Sometimes I let people win if they are obviously a noob who just wants to play the level and they show that they can at least put in some effort. Mostly I just try to pull off cool shit though
I hate that BB will forever be locked to PS4.
just emulate it
I will, once it emulates as well as DeS on RPCS3. Lord knows I'm not touching the eventual Bluepoint demake.
yeah it really fricking sucks, especially with the ps+ nonsense and such
I still pay up like a cuck every October
If it gets a PC release one day I will day 1 buy to be able to play more. The thing I like about BB invading is that you get insight for winning invasions and it's like a currency so you can buy more lead elixirs and buff papers and good stuff that you can use to win more invasions. It would be awesome if modernized and brought out from the gated ps+ community
It's not forever locked, the moment PS4 emulation is viable Sony will almost certainly re-release it. They've already made statements about wanting to port their games to PC to make even more money.
They would not miss out on that opportunity, you bet your ass the instant Bloodborne is on PC unofficially there is going to be countless youtube videos and social media posts letting people know.
It's not a matter of "if", it's "when". The game files spreading like a wildfire is a guarantee from all the attention it will get, especially considering how famous the series is.
You'd have to be omega moronic as a company to have prior knowledge of an impending disaster and not have countermeasures ready.
>You'd have to be omega moronic as a company to have prior knowledge of an impending disaster and not have countermeasures ready
We're talking about the company that inadvertently facilitated MS' acquisition of ABK, anon.
I mean I think missing out on tens of millions of dollars is not something they want to do.
Not like they could do a worse job than From already does on their PC versions anyway.
>You'd have to be omega moronic as a company
look at almost everything Sony has done since roughly ps360 generation start and especially since the gen after that
It would probably be on PC already if the people that buy a PS4 and PS+ just for BB didn't exist to this very day. No reason not to keep milking the only reason people buy your old console.
It's amazing to me that the one group of players that's even more turbo-virgin than Pokemon players are those that want to be PvP pests in Souls games.
I don't really get the invader mindset but I still appreciate it. The first time it happens in Dark Souls/Demon's Souls leads to such a fun panic. It does get annoying after the first 20 or so invasions but the initial ones are thrilling. I don't mind a guy coming into my SP game and fricking me up and taking all my souls. The game is designed to be harsh like that.
I invade because I like being part of the problem
>implying anyone invading from 3 onwards is the problem
we are the solution TO the problem
The most fun I had with invading and being invaded was in DS3 when there was a bug where you could invade boss rooms as Purple Phantoms.
Should've been a feature, honestly.
After really trying to enjoy PVP in Elden Ring, I've come to the conclusion that it's just a terrible system.
Like, a completely moronic second thought of a fix.
Crabs in a bucket
/v/
Invasions are incredibly based and especially in the older DS games.
The homosexuals that cry about it should try it out.
me
it's me
i'm that kind of person
i see you playing with your friends and i make it my personal mission to inconvenience you as best i can
thank you everybody
I like being a part of the game, a part of the level. I want to make myself a challenge that the host and his buddies have to overcome. I think it's fun to use my knowledge of the area to play tricks on people. It gives the games a dynamism that just wouldn't be present otherwise - If you've run through an area once, you've run through it a thousand times. But invasion puts an intelligent mind on the field against you, and so no two playthroughs of the same area will be the same, since all invaders are going to have different tricks and tactics, and all hosts/parties will have different ways of reacting to those tricks, or creating tricks of their own.
The guy in the OP is the wrong color. Being invaded creates fun. It's co-op that ruins it.
>Use Taunter's tongue
>Still can't get solo invaders
Cmon, I want to spice up my runs.
A fair chunk of the people who'd still be invading are probably busy with LoP and LotF.
>pirated souls
>never got invaded
Did I miss out?
Dark souls pvp is so much fricking fun bros, we will never have that level of jank again
some people just want to watch the world burn
Some people just plain suck.
>Story of Elden Ring
>Gods(demi) siblings wage war against eachother
>each having their own battles, with their armies
>each having their own territories and castles, regions
>Elden Ring has no soulslike PVP covenant system surrounding this concept
>no pvp contested covenant zones
>no 5V5 fights between different phantoms in LLeyndel
why..
i fricking hate elden ring
They rush it.
Because factions are dispersive and there's no lore reason why the player would join them. In lrevious games covenants were tied to areas other than matchmaking rules
>there's no lore reason why the player would join them
you could say the same for all three souls games with the exception of artorias covenant, there is no lore reason for the chosen undead or the bearer or ashen one to join a covenant other than for the spells and rewards
Covenants were never good
red phantoms keep the game alive and dynamic, if not for us or the fear of us youd get comfortable fighting the same ai over and over again, man up, approach an invader like a challenge you can overcome, if you die who cares, if you win you were better at that moment
It's incredibly fun. It's probably the most fun multiplayer mode I played since Spies vs Mercs
we have to go back
DeS was mediocre
Prove me wrong
>sen's fortress
>pendulum axe traps
>"dark spirit ***** has invaded"
>frick i'm not ready for this
>sprint ahead and take a deadend sidepath to hide
>red glowie homosexual loses me, has no fricking idea where to look
>he's standing in the perfect frickin spot
>step on a pressure plate
>three arrows destroy his wiener
>"Victory Achieved"
only good experience i ever had being invaded
Amazing.