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barely any solo content beyond WoL, which is the event mode from previous game with a coat of makeup.
Subspace Emissary NEVER EVER AGAIN.
The solo content is pointless and should be foregone entirely in favour of more time spent on characters. I don't think anyone plays the single player content in Smash aside from balding virgins.
I bet you enjoy games as a service.
This
I was hoping for a much better adventure mode from melee
>Subspace Emissary NEVER EVER AGAIN.
thank god
i emulated it, got all the DLC. Sora was boring, so I gave it up.
Them adding sora made me stop wanting to play it.
Are you kidding? Byleth made me consider it but Steve solidified my disinterest for this game.
I didn't
In fact I'm playing as I type this
Btw Items/Hazard > Compshit
I'm just now getting into Switch.
Do these "Smash" games have anything to offer someone who doesn't want to go pro or memorized frame data?
not really, the single player in Ultumate is pretty shit (WoL sucks, the stadium sucks and Classic isn't that fun).
I think Melee and Smash 3DS had the most enjoyable Single Player content.
if you have friend to play with and just have fun as sakurai intended, yes.
what's with the people that main these characters that they do absolute nothing but spam specials and maybe a neutral aerial or a smash attack.
>zoner chars (well, 2/3 of that pic) play like zoners
woah...imagine that...
so zoner means just using the special button and nothing else?
zoners typically use their zoning tools to zone yes. a shocking revelation I'm sure
well ill be damned, thought a zoner meant to use their projectiles and other moves, not just 2.
>and other moves
what other moves? if they have the space why not huck projectiles, why would a zoner give up their space to run up and slam normals
I got like 2000 hours out of Ultimate, that game rules. I still turn it on from time to time but I put like 30 hours into the Multiversus closed alpha and I'm more into that right now.
I'll probably jump back into Smash when I feel like going to locals again though.
How bad are you to get beat up by a Mii using only 2 moves? Spam doesn't work on you if you're not shit at the game.
i beat them but its not fun to deal with, much less when they're laggy
Smash is shit for babies and not a real fighting game
They even went out of their way to censor cleavage (and even legs) of many fo the female fighters because "female body bad" and they excluded Mai from Terry's stage, Sakurai went on to say he doesn't allow characters with realistic guns since this is a children's game (Because giving Snake a rocket launcher is so much less violent), I honestly played every Smash game other than Ultimate since I refuse to support censorship (Removing panty shots, Some of the trophies and censoring them in 4 was already pushing it, But Ultimate took it WAY too far to keep the game's ranting low, These characters don't feel like they are from any of their respective game series, They feel like Chinese bootlegs)
I expect them to do even worse censorship in Smash 6 considering that the even censored Mr Game & Watch's moveset, they also changed "one HELL of a guy" to "one HECK" of a guy in the DK Rap and "Damn right" to "all right" in Persona's Mass Destruction music
Fighting games suck tho. Nobody says smash is a fighting game.
I do, but its not because it needs to be validated as one, its because thats what it is
>but its a party game
so is mortal game
>but it was never meant to be competitive
neither was street fighter 2
>sakurai said its not a fighting game
he has also called it a fighting game, statement really means much
>the community is pedos
a pedo that played real fighters was arrested yesterday, nobody is talking about it because he didn't play smash
>fighting games suck tho
filtered
Ah yeah, i love memorizing useless combos so that the majority of gameplay in no way interacts with the other player. Then I like watching as he performs his combos, hoping he messes up and I win not because I played well, but because my opponent played poorly
thank you for confirming that you were in fact filtered
>They even went out of their way to censor cleavage (and even legs) of many fo the female fighters because "female body bad"
The game is E10 you fricking moron, that's the reason
I miss when Smash was T like Brawl.
>They even went out of their way to censor cleavage (and even legs) of many fo the female fighters because "female body bad"
Feels good not being a normalgay coomer and not caring about those things.
Is it truly censorship if they made them objectively sexier though?
I say no.
>Female bodies
Blame CERO for that. There's an interview where Sakurai complains that CERO made him remove Palutena's panty shots from the final game and the Terry Presentation had Sakurai say that Mai's not in because of CERO.
>Realistic Guns
That is kind of bullshit, but Snake really didn't need another zoning tool given how bullshit his grenades are. Plus, Joker has his gun, so that's clearly not an issue anymore.
Agreed
online sucks and me and my roommate play actual fighting games
dunno, maybe the insane lag cause the netcode is fricking trash and 95% of players online are children playing on their parents WiFi?
Not only did I never stop playing Ultimate, I never stopped playing Smash 4, Brawl, Melee or 64, everything redditors have done to make me stop loving these games has failed.
64 falcon combos are just uniquely satisfying, 64 has by far the best sound design for hits imo
What is reddit trying to cancel now?
im in a weird limbo where i can beat all my friends easily but im too shit at online to keep a character in elite. so im not having much enjoyment with either options.
It's mechanically shit with its gutted movement and combos, but I do want to try the HDR mod eventually.
Melee is better and also has better online that doesn't charge me money to play
Was forced after decapitated my mom’s head with a bat
Never liked it, i have a copy for frens during party days in case we get bored of kekken
>Lackluster singleplayer
>Spot dodge cancelling
>Most projectiles are way too polarizing and a lot of my favorite characters have no answer to them
>Game has negative hit stun unless you're a DLC character
>NASA internet required to play the game online without any input delay
>Arena hosts are gays
>Tons of shitty hitboxes and hurtboxes that have been broken since Smash 4, none of them have been fixed
>Multihits are awful
>Lack of movement tech in a fricking platform fighter
>Nintendo isn't even updating the game anymore despite its dozens of glaring flaws
name one game that has every flaw fixed by the devs after development ends
That's not what I'm asking for, moron. Development ended almost immediately after Sora was released, even though Sakurai himself promised the community that they would fix the shitty online months prior, to no avail. Nintendo took all of the money you spent on amiibos, DLC, Nintendo Online, and controllers and didn't put even a single penny into improving the game. They couldn't even be bothered to give Sakurai a proper budget for presenting fighters. No other relevant fighting game has fricked over its own community the same way Ultimate has. Even when it printed money during the DLC waves, the updates we did get were few and far between and barely even made any major changes. There weren't any tweaks to the core gameplay, and characters that were already good got buffed just because Nintendo wanted them to be meta relevant while shit tiers were "buffed" by having shitty moves do slightly more damage. I just want Nintendo to actually care about the fricking game instead of doing the absolute bare minimum for it.
Is that so much to ask for the most profitable fighting game in history? Dick riding Nintendo will be the downfall of Ultimate's community.
>that's not what I'm asking for
isn't even updating the game anymore despite its dozens of glaring flaws
sounds to me like you want them to fix every flaw in the game after development has ceased
>They couldn't even be bothered to give Sakurai a proper budget for presenting fighters
what are you talking about his showcases were great, I fricking WISH fighting game devs would comprehensively show off the moveset of a character before release. what does a "proper" budget look like?
>no other relevant fighting game has fricked over its own community the same way ultimate has
bruh DBFZ Labcoat Android is the singular strongest character in the game by a country mile and arcsys hasn't done SHIT about it. GT Goku was a menace for an entire season and Kid Buu has been top 5 the ENTIRE GAME. smashies who don't know shit about the genre shouldn't talk like they do.
>sounds to me like you want them to fix every flaw in the game after development has ceased
Already explained why this is bullshit. My whole point is that development shouldn't have ceased so soon, moron.
>what are you talking about his showcases were great, I fricking WISH fighting game devs would comprehensively show off the moveset of a character before release.
Ask me how I know you don't play fighting games other than Smash.
>bruh DBFZ Labcoat Android is the singular strongest character in the game by a country mile and arcsys hasn't done SHIT about it.
Didn't Labcoat 21 get nerfed already? God, why is Ultimate's fanbase so mindlessly moronic?
>Ask me how I know you don't play fighting games other than Smash.
what game has comprehensive showcases like smash oh wise fighting game guru, please enlighten me.
>didn't she get nerfed already
not yet, and even then they'd have to radically rework or nerf her because her kit is just so strong. has the most lows in the game, has the best super dash catch in the game, has a fricking command grab that debuffs your damage that she can combo into off of literally anything and can fricking OTG for free. I'm sure I'm missing some things too.
>not yet
You want to know how I know you don't play any fightan other than Smash? You don't even know shit about the game you're trying to make a false dichotomy argument with. What's your point supposed to be? Smash Ultimate is allowed to be in the janky state that it's in because... FighterZ had an overpowered character? How does that even add up? Arcys mismanages its cash cow so it's okay for Nintendo to do it too? It's like I'm actually talking to a soulless robot. I hope the Ultimate's meta devolves completely into Stevegays and ROBgays not approaching each other for ten minutes. Bet you'll be begging for daddy Nintendo to patch the game then, you fricking NPC.
Check my four, and drink some windex while you're at it.
Oh I didn't realize the patch was out, and those changes are minor nerfs outside of not being able to combo the grab anymore, but it still inflicts the debuff and I imagine can still be applied on a hard knockdown, I'd need to check that though. It's pretty funny you need to latch onto that one wrong point so hard while ignoring the rest though.
Point? What point? You don't have any fricking points at all. You've done nothing but have ESL-tier reading comprehension while trying to discuss completely separate games.
>Smash Ultimate should permanently be an unfun mess because...it just should okay!?
Thanks for admitting that you've been talking out your ass this entire time though. That's all Nintendo dick riders are capable of doing apparently.
my point is
still waiting for those other comprehensive character guides anon, you wouldn't be trying to divert away from that because I was mistaken about a DBFZ patch right?
Both Street Fighter 5 and MvC:I had character guides, tardo. It's not unique to Smash. Even if it was, I fail to see how that's relevant; the only reason why I even involved their budget was because Sakurai himself brought it up. Again, it's like I'm talking to a fricking soulless robot.
The SFV guides aren't comprehensive, they don't showcase the entire moveset, the only things they really explain are the Vtrigger and skills. for smash Sakurai shows off every normal, special and taunt.
>The SFV guides aren't comprehensive
I legitimately fricking hate you.
huh they must've only done those for some characters because the seth and rose ones were just the vskills and vtriggers with some general gameplay.
see? you need to relax sperg
I'll take your concession.
the only other example I can think of in regards to being really comprehensive is funnily enough, DBFZ. they'd show off all the buttons and specials and even some tech because they'd give Apologyman I think it was the chance to lab stuff to show off on stream.
Just looked it up, seems like you can't do it at all in a combo which is pretty good. It's pretty reactable too so you can't tick throw with it easily either. damage nerfs are good but she still has the most amount of lows and a free OTG as well as the best superdash catch in the game. The point I'm making is that every fighting game ends unbalanced, it is the way of things. USF4 ended with Healing Elena, SFV is ending with Luke, 3S has Chun Li, MvC has Mags Sent Storm, Smash 4 had Bayo, +R has Testament and Zappa and so on.
>MUH CHARACTER BALANCE
Again, irrelevant. They promised better online, didn't deliver. They promised more patches after Sora, only gave us one, then fricked off. Even Smash 4 had two balance changes post-Bayonetta. Multihits have been universally broken since day one and they haven't done shit about it. Hazard toggle is completely arbitrary and often keeps hazards on stages that could otherwise have been played competitively. These aren't issues limited to specific characters, they're universal problems that have been in the game since it was released and absolutely nothing about them. But no, keep defending them Nintendo for failing to address problems the community has had with the game since DAY ONE.
>irrelevant
not to this
>>and characters that were already good got buffed just because Nintendo wanted them to be meta relevant while shit tiers were "buffed" by having shitty moves do slightly more damage.
I would dare say my point is directly addressing this bit. Still waiting for those character showcases btw
>Still waiting for those character showcases btw
I literally just fricking gave you two examples. I don't even know why you're still trying, you already admitted that you had no idea what you're talking about.
Nothing. I play it every weekend with my friends and have been doing so since launch.
I traded my physical games to go all digital since I got back into pc gayman and didn't want clutter in my desk space like game boxes and as I was rebuking some games for like a 10er or 20er difference I started to rethink what games I was actually into
Because Ganker only cares about Smash when they can rostergay, b***h about Smashgays or b***h about specific characters.
Even Scrimblogays moved on to b***hing about too many JRPGs in Directs.
I'm playing right now
The main thing keeping me away from playing again is the sheer number of games in my backlog. So many RPGs especially, and I'm a guy who takes his time so they all have 100+ hours clear time. I just can't easily justify spending that time playing Smash Bros, particularly online. Quick Play is the other thing keeping me from Ultimate, it's like 90% of the people on there actively try to make the game as un-fun as possible. I win most of the matches I play (no brag, just most people really suck) but it almost never feels fun.
I do still play once in a while with friends and acquaintances offline, and that's always fun.
The online
>Quickplay is the same handful of character archetypes that aren't affected by lag and increased input delay: zoners and specific characters like Bowser.
>The lobby system is slow, awkward, and changing your character isn't allowed
Also, the game's meta is painfully un-fun and if you are decent at the game you'll end up playing against people who spam safe auto-cancel aerials for 7 minutes straight or spend all day using quickplay as an interactive pactice mode for their autistic Peach float cancel combos.
It's fun to play with friends and fricking exhausting to play with strangers. I imagine it's worse than ever with Steve blowing up.
Ran out of online, and the newer dlc did little to make me play again.
I played a bit with /vg/ but around when banjo came out it became really dead as there was a discord group that split the threads. My friend also stopped talking to me so I got pretty bored of it at that point
it's not fun to play. In fact it's like the complete opposite. Doesn't matter if you're winning. Doesn't matter if you're losing. You'll be irritated whenever you put the game down. I can't think of many other games like it
This, word-for-word. I even got my most wanted in, and that moment was probably the happiest video games have ever made me, but I still have to force myself to play this miserable slog of a game, and I'm not very good at making it happen. To be fair, I can't even motivate myself to play games I want to play anymore, though.
I don't like all the 3rd party characters. Smassh is a fighting game for nintendo characters.
post predictions and reasons im right
I hate rostergays so much it's unreal. Bandai-Namco literally develops Smash Bros. now, you mong. Why wouldn't Pac-Man return? Why are Ultgays so obsessed with cuthomosexualry after obsessing over roster bloat for four years? What's your end game?
Because to these fricktards, anything they want cut pretty much boils down too.
>MUH PERSONAL SCRIMBLY DIDN'T GOT IN!!!!
They personally deserve a sawed off shotgun in their mouths and pull the trigger.
No Mario character is going to get cut.
Die in a hole, rostertroony.
>Removing Animal Crossing entirely
>Removing Splatoon entirely
Yeah. That's definitely what current corporate Nintendo would do. Great prediction, Nostradoofus.
>Diddy in "may return"
>animal crossing not returning
finally found the dumbest anon on all of Ganker
Yeah, sure. Here's the actual list.
>Shit online
>barely any other single player content outside of classic, "adventure mode" they call World of Light which is just a glorifyed Events
>playerbase is full of fricking tryhards
>rosterhomosexuals have infected the Nintendo fandom to the point there is endless infighting
I can't fathom over how anyone can still fricking play the actual downfall of Nintendo's massive advertisement game when Nintendorks are becoming more and more fricking stupid due to social media brain rot. Kind of ironic that the DLC would end with having a character from a company that's full on opened to grooming children is in a Groomer's game now.
joycon drift
I was getting too invested in the roster like a moron.
Realizing it was nearly the same fricking game as Smash 4, which I hated. I went right back to 64/Melee/Brawl/PM.
>Sticky platforms
>Bad item spawn rates no matter how you adjust things
>Smoke and balloon knockback in FFAs
>Off-stage play sucks. Your recovery is either stupidly strong (90% of the cast) or worthless
>Unintuitive and nonsensical hazard toggle
>Nonsensical online match choices that make it worse than Smash 4. You can't change your fricking character.
>Online is bad outside of that
>Neutral is basically just nair nair nair vs fair fair fair
>tfw still have the autistic imagination of a child despite being over 30 and can still find enjoyment in doing goofy shit with the settings on single player
Anyone else just like setting stage and characters to random, and letting your brain fill in the blanks?
learn how to do sprite animations
awful netcode + awful input lag + awful buffer window makes for an awful experience
I only really play when I have friends over, so "nothing", but I also don't play it consistently.
My nephews grew bored of it.
Spammy characters and dogshit netcode that makes them exponentially more annoying to fight
too many patches I learn a character and then suddenly it plays differently
Wish it had more single player modes. All Star and Boss Rush should have been easy additions.
These fricks getting in. Not only did we let the trannies win twice, but you applauded Nintendo for ruining what was meant to be the ultimate Smash game!
Speaking of this, I am not saying 3rd parties are a bad thing at all but I honestly preferred it when they kept being exception instead of becoming the norm. Makes these "special guests" not feel so special
Also, we had 12 DLC characters in this game, and the almost all of them were 3rd party. Again, not a bad thing, but it's not gonna be cute when we get to the point where the newer Mario spinoffs are, and next game drops, a chunk of the current roster gets cut, and everyone is a goddamn DLC. It's honestly abusing. But then again, it's Nintendo, who actually gives a shit
Those 2 are still better than…
Ike, Robin, Corrin, and Byleth have a different gameplay which is good gameplay wise but bad for the roster because there are too many fire emblem characters already
Why the FRICK did ultimate not have the online tournament system from 4, that made it so easy to do Gankerkends. Arenas are so much more of a pain.
the same reason smash run was only ever on the 3DS, nintendo devs are by law required to make the most pants on head moronic design choices.
Worst online matchmaking system.
Also, Sora.
I hope the next Smash game cuts the roster not because I want a small roster and want to see people suffer, but because I hope that they rework the old characters from the ground up to be more up-to-date with modern design standards. I wouldn't mind a large roster as long as they update fundamentally broken characters like Kirby, Little Mac, Ganondorf, and etc.
This, most of the veterans have shit movesets or even shit representation all throughout
It’s inevitable and if you deny it, you’re on that pure copium.
i want all the mario characters to be reworked
mario is too much up air and barely any actual moves (i know his down smash and crouch are from mario 64 but that's it)
luigi is literally an oc besides the LM3 command grab everyone hates dealing with
peach is way too fricking good if your opponent is an autist that knows her bullshit, remove float cancels, that's it, she's really good as is
bowser's ok kinda but change his design and give him is fricking voice, same for dk
dk's cargo throw is absolutely moronic, nerf it or remove it
as much as i hate him diddy's actually ok, maybe remove the banana and give him something else
wario should get his waft removed, give him better kill tools instead of forcing the opponent to run like a b***h as soon as he's about to fart and give him his ground pound, or maybe a wario land 1 hat attack since ware is already well incorporated in his moveset
remove yoshi entirely, frick yoshi
rosalina is annoying but she's ok
change daisy to fully rep both mario land 1 and the mario spinoffs
add waluigi to specifically rep mario tennis, ddr mario mix and party 3
>shitty roster
>shitty online
>shitty balance
>shitty SP content
>the doomsaying homosexuals still crying about Sora ruining their "le epic salt" fest
Sora had no place in smash and i fricking love kingdom hearts. Its as bad as moronic fricking walking dead Black person in tekken and danica fricking c**t patrick in a segs crossover game. Completely out of place and ruins the consistency and integrity of the product just to please moronic fricks. Frick sackurai for listening to idiot fans.
why exactly doesn't sora belong in smash bros? He fits better than fricking snake or kazuya
I'd argue none of those three fit.
They're all Playstation characters, even if we got like three fricking Kingdom Hearts games in portable Nintendo consoles.
There's only three Tekken games on Nintendo, same for MGS. I don't think anyone counts the original MG and the american made MG2, even LA CREATIVIDAD has said the NES ones don't count.
>They're all Playstation characters
That logic went out the window the day they added Sonic.
Nah homie Sonic, like Mega Man and Pac-Man, get a pass.
We've had a shit ton of Sonic games in Nintendo after the DC era. Tons of ports, exclusive games, the Mario & Sonic series.
>still making up shit to justify picks
come to terms with the fact that anyone could get in if Sakurai wants it and they can work out a deal.
I wouldn't say "anyone".
It's actually Sakurai's "friends".
Sans Sonic, the Hero and the three Capcom characters, most of the third parties were from franchises made by people close to Sakurai.
>La Creatividad asked for Snake because his kid wanted him in Smash
>Tekken shit got in and Harada is very good friends with him
>Nomura is buddies with Sakurai, all Square characters are Nomura made
>Terry was a personal pick and no amount of lies from Sakurai saying Nintendo wanted him in will change that
>Sakurai is a Persona gay and recorded a video visiting Atlus and shit
I guess Bayonetta and the Belmonts don't fit in either Sakurai friend or company interest.
>high profile japanese devs interact with each other
holy shit dude no way?
>Didn't refute anything
>>most third parties are in because sakurai has friends
>Snake, Kazuya, Sora, Cloud, Sephiroth, Terry (I guess Sakurai is friends with himself now) Joker
>7
>3rd parties that aren't a result of his friendships
>Sonic, Hero, Megaman, Ryu, Ken, Simon, Richter, Bayonetta, Banjo, Steve
>10
well by my count it would appear most third parties are in fact, NOT made by people close to sakurai. Even If I'm generous and combine the belmonts you'd still be wrong.
Well Sora feels neutered asf, he struggles to kill certain characters in the heat of battle, he’s light and floaty asf. Dumb Sakurai gave him a down b counter, kinda making him a glorified FE character.
its an online game on the switch
2d fighters are better than platform ones
the game feels sanitized as frick
its not fun to move around
I still play local multiplayer. I stopped playing online when I went to a locals one week and couldn't even space a Peach fair because I had gotten so accustomed to the lag. By the way, don't play Peach online. Not good for the fundamentals.
>actual smash bros discussion in Ganker
>/vg/ is just e-celeb central atm
A mixture of
>main being unfun to play
>online being shit
>nobody to play with
arena where
my only two friends who played this with me got too salty at qp and
>one broke his pro controller and refused to use the joycons AND get a new controller
>the other sold the game because he hated it so much
keep in mind those two played smash 4 with me all the way till ultimate released.
the first friend never broke any of his wii u controllers and the second still has smash 4 in his collection.
think about that for a bit.
Is the first friend white?
I got sick of paying for Nintendo's shitty online and I was completely checked out when Sora finally released. Then I started playing Guilty Gear.
>No interesting single player content
>Online is shit
>If my Smashgay friends wanted to play Smash online they'd rather just netplay Dolphin/Slippi and get a much better online experience
Part of me wishes the diehard Nintendo fans would wake up and realize how shit of a service Nintendo is providing them with. Maybe Nintendo would have to try.
I didn't? Still regularly get a few rounds in and it's a classic mainstay for any parties thanks to its potential to have 8 local players.
I wish Brawl and Wii U were evolution with balance patches/bug fixes from Melee with better graphics but they are worse games in general. So I could never play them again.
I still play occasionally, didn't have my 5g bandwidth router set up in the new place yet so I have not been able to play online.
Fixed that here in the past few days so I ought to start playing again here after I get to a good stop point in breath of fire
shit netcode and sold my shitty switch cause it became worth more than I bought it for.
everyone is a lag-abusing teabagging ragequitting sore loser even in elite smash
i don't get why qp/es players are so obsessed with gsp
muh points
Watching Numbers go up is what fuels people to be tryhards
I still play online.. going on drunk and high in a bit. Anyone hosting?
sure gimme a sec
You still on?
Host on public 1v1
Idk, I didn't like it a lot
>WoL sucks, PNGs were a shitty replacement of trophies
>online matchmaking sucks
>online gameplay sucks even more
>franchises I like got the boot in terms of representation
>multiple characters feeling generic or outdated in terms of movesets or flashyness despite the game's name implying everyone is at the top of their game
And that's not mentioning that discussion about this game boils down to "who cares about *popular or highly demanded character* anyway" or "I hope they add more FE characters just to spite randos I disagree with"
I still respect the game for its merits though
Project M got killed so I quit the series
I have over 400 hours into the game since it came out. I don't hate it, I just have burnout.
The assist trophy's being overtuned. The average assist is stronger than majority of Pokemon and just as plentiful.
>playing with items
I liked items, they were fun.
Then just disable assist trophies specifically?
That does not subside my anger for the development changes made for the worse.
I agree. A number of items in this game just feel more obnoxious to play with than anything. Feels like there's too many items that just hand players stocks. There's also a lot of redundant items that are more or less the same thing but better like the various blasters.
I only play casually with items on, and Melee has the best items and stages so I play that instead
To be fair Melee's items were really fun. I liked the flipper, red shell, fan, Mr. Saturn, and screw attack a lot.
Pokeballs-only was the best thing in melee.
Brawl and on's limit of 3 per screen and really shitty mons that don't do much sucked the fun out of it.
>pokeballs only on pokefloats
Yeah each Smash after Melee, felt limited on how much Pokémon you could have at once.
One secret thing that’s unique to Melee and only is during Vs matches, enemies from Adventure Mode can come out of Crates, Barrels and Party Balls, I’ve played Melee casually for many years and can confirm. Shit like this should’ve been a mainstay in future titles
there are many characters with important gaming franchises that didn't make it
Crash Bandicoot
Dante from Devil May Cry
Master Chief from Halo
Leon Kennedy from Resident Evil
Scorpion from Mortal Kombat
Chosen Undead from Darksouls
instead we got Joker, Byleth, Chrom, and Sephiroth
>Scrimblogays still malding to this day
Okay JRPG fan
>not invited to sequels
>Shulk
>underage itoddler
>shit talking Dragon Quest
Yup, it's a smash thread.
Scrimblogays won both the fan request slots, you're fighting an uphill battle here.
KH OC is far more anime and everyone kinda ended up hating Banjo once he got in.
Jay Are Pee Gee Fans still continue to b***h about other people b***hing.
>muh scrimblo
Black person the problem isnt necessarily the abundance of animu swordsman, it's the overwhelming representation just for the fire emblem characters in the game, they could've picked anyone instead of a token nu FE protag just because Sakurai does a massive soipog when those games get announced. Hell I'd be happy with other meme swordsmen like Raiden, Dante, Ryu, etc. even Sephiroth isn't as disappointing in comparison.
Yes
Cuphead
Ninja Gaiden
Undertale
You lost me with mentioning Sephiroth instead of some others like Steve or Pythra, Those characters don’t hold a candle to fricking Sephiroth.
OH EM GEE SO COOOOOL THE ORIGINAL EDGELORD SO ICONIIIIICCCCCC OMMMMMGGGG I LOVE FINAL FANTASY SEVEEEEEENNNNNNNNNN
You will never get a playable villain from Waifu Emblem Chronicles
i dont give a shit about fire emblem Black person
i only wanted geno, k. rool, ridley, ninten and simon
3/5 isn't bad at all
Think we might get Kefka in smash 6?
My friends stopped playing.
>setup when friends were into it was garbage, could barely walk after playing with them because of my bad knee, had no idea what was going on, and was using my phone and a bluetooth speaker for audio
>change around setup so my Switch is using the same monitor as my computer and pipes its audio straight to my PC and into my headphones so I can talk with my friends without the people I live with hearing them get edgy, and still play the game with audio
>can actually see what's going on in the game now
>not in pain after a gaming session
>none of them play Smash Bros anymore
I might play it again one day, but I have other Switch games I wanna play and finish. Maybe when I find more friends to grind with I’ll start getting back into it and derust.
The roster is too fricking large and has too many third party choices. The single player content is anemic and bad.
It looked ugly. the art direction was a fricking mess and the assets were cheap so I never got it.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/500071/9
1. Pyra/Mythra - 2776
2. Kirby - 2364
3. Joker - 2081
4. Sora - 1857
5. Byleth - 1616
6. Ganondorf - 1518
7. Min Min - 1349
8. Hero - 1234
9. Cloud - 1107
10. Sephiroth - 1095
11. Terry - 917
12. Link - 805
13. Ness - 777
14. King K. Rool - 763
15. Captain Falcon - 735
16. Ike - 669
17. Lucina - 647
18. Kazuya - 644
19. Snake - 632
19. Jigglypuff - 632
21. Yoshi - 616
22. Zelda - 611
23. Robin - 582
24. Piranha Plant - 576
25. King Dedede - 571
26. Pikachu - 548
27. Corrin - 543
28. Mr. Game & Watch - 536
29. Roy - 519
30. Inkling - 516
30. Greninja - 516
32. R.O.B. - 515
33. Lucas - 512
34. Meta Knight - 498
35. Marth - 491
36. Ridley - 483
37. Mario - 481
38. Mewtwo - 472
39. Banjo & Kazooie - 461
40. Bowser - 459
41. Bayonetta - 456
42. Sonic - 445
42. Incineroar - 439
44. Donkey Kong - 432
45. Dark Pit - 426
46. Lucario - 413
47. Shulk - 399
48. Mii Swordfighter - 371
49. Wii Fit Trainer - 363
50. Wolf - 349
51. Samus - 345
52. Palutena - 343
53. Pac-Man - 307
54. Pit - 303
55. Steve - 302
56. Isabella - 296
56. Villager - 296
58. Little Mac - 294
59. Zero Suit Samus - 291
60. Falco - 287
61. Fox - 274
62. Pichu - 268
63. Sheik - 259
64. Ken - 257
65. Bowser Jr. - 252
66. Toon Link - 240
66. Luigi - 240
66. Mega Man - 240
69. Duck Hunt - 220
70. Ice Climbers - 215
70. Ryu - 215
72. Richter - 196
73. Rosalina & Luma - 185
74. Charizard - 184
75. Young Link - 180
76. Chrom - 172
77. Dark Samus - 169
78. Olimar - 164
79. Dr. Mario - 154
80. Mii Gunner - 139
81. Wario - 138
82. Daisy - 134
83. Mii Brawler - 129
84. Peach - 108
85. Simon - 106
86. Ivysaur - 105
87. Squirtle - 102
88. Diddy Kong - 100
>top 10 is all anime
Smash needs a western developer to curtails the Japs shit taste.
How did Smash go from a game about Mario schozzing Kirby in the face to adding weeaboo shit like Corrin and the XB2 coomer girls? It’s even worse when anyone dares express how tired they are of anime swordies because they’re always hit with “UH, IT’S A JAPANESE GAME SWEATY”.
Like who the frick actually cares? Am I supposed to shut up and be a good boy as Daddy Sakurai adds Hajime Tontaro, the half naked twink blade user from the JP only RPG FairyBoobs XIIIIX instead of Rayman because Smash happens to be made in the East?
It’s a moronic argument, you wouldn’t want me requesting shit like Abby from TLOU2 if Smash was western-created would you?
>Raymangay
I dunno how you frickers even came into existence. Not even Ubisoft gives a shit about him anymore and Nintendo would probably add a Rabbid to promote their crossover. Even Bandanna Dee gays are more sane.
Rayman is shit and the XB2 girls add way more to the game than he could ever hope to. I'm SO, so fricking glad Crash, Rayman and Spyrogays will never ever, ever be playable.
For anyone who's too lazy to check the link, this is basically the most popular fighters for the Japanese fanbase.
I recommend not getting bothered over it, since this list gets posted a lot to piss people off.
nips having awful taste as per usual
Japs thinking with their genitals as per usual
I bought a gamecube for melee
I bought a wii for brawl
I bought a wii u for 4
I did not buy a switch for ultimate.
Belmonts are dumb fun
The online is fricking dogshit. It's worse than Smash4WiiU and that was free. It's mindboggling. I paid for a year of it when Ultimate launched and I maybe played it four times it was so bad.
>connection in general usually sucks donkey butthole on top of the game's native lag and buffer making gameplay feel like slop
>can't change characters once matched up with someone, so if you find someone fun you're stuck playing the same matchup over and over
>no way to communicate through tags like in tr4sh
>no taunts
I'd love to play it but there's really no point buying the online pass for that shit experience.
Oh yeah and also:
>can still get stuck with moronic rulesets
Corona canceled the weekly I went to. By the time it started up again I was rusty.
It's an inferior game to melee and the Nintendo israelites shut down the mod project that would have made it an actually palatable game like project m did for brawl
not being a 12 year old
Played it regularly, but by the end of the pass I was over it. I'll still throw it on if friends come over so we can play with items.
never played it to begin with. I really don't care about smash anymore.
>built in input delay
>missing tons of features
>bad netcode
>monthly fee for online
My switch has been gathering dust for years now and I only turn it on because if you dont, nintendos horrible new engineering flaws will brick it
competitive is dying because of Steve/Kazuya / carry characters/ Sonic / lame zoners
i realized ultimate is a mediocre party game and a very shallow fighting game
casual ult is just screen nukes, items killing you at 20%, a bunch of lame ass cutscene final smashes and a lot of lame stages with unamusing gimmicks and/or unpleasant level design. 4 already was going down the hill of having a lot of stupid assist trophies/pokemon then ultimate just turned that up to 100. brawl was the last time casual shit was crazy but not overbearing
competitive ultimate is just a kiddie pool because ultimate's entire "groove" is that everything does a shit ton of damage and/or has minimal endlag. roy/chrom have been a competitive mainstay since launch because swordies usually are "disjointed attacks that do a shit ton of damage along with having minimal endlag" and now that an entire game was designed to be the embodiment of "shit ton of damage with less endlag", they're double benefitting off of just existing. characters like joker, sephiroth and pyra/mythra had (and still have) their moments moments because they're swordie adjacent. it's also why the current hot topic is steve because he's a swordie (adjacent) on fricking crack along with being able to camp
tl;dr casual ultimate is artificially chaotic which makes it very sterile and competitive ultimate is just people playing as shallow as they can because the game's mechanics actively encourage shallow gameplay so i have no interest in either side
Corporate shilling additions instead of fun fan based ones
I played other fighters more and realized how dogshit the netcode truly is.
Realized I liked Rivals of Aether and Slap City more
Realized most of Smult's cast plays the same
Realized that core mechanics and a lot of moveset design are made for free-for-alls and have negative impact on 1v1s
Realized that none of my friends want to play the game in casual FFAs, the only part of the game Smash still does better than its contemporaries
Slap City had some fun characters. Jenny, Fish and Goddess are all great
Pity it never made it big
feels like shit to control your character/move (the platforms especially make me want to die)
netcode is a fricking joke
community is extremely reddit, and full of people who got filtered by traditional fighters but will still tryhard the frick out of the game (yeah bro i'm SURE you're having fun playing sonic)
75% of the cast are zoners whose entire game plan is running away and throwing little turds at you
i used to watch competitive smash but even got tired of that after seeing the 100th sonic vs snake match
I just play a better version of it now. https://youtu.be/LmYRUeLj69Y
Major lack of SP content, shitty online, character patches stopped adding features/modes/QoL because Nintendo is fricking greedy.
Based
Banned by nintendo on modded switch. Emulating isn't as fun, and can't find anyone to play with.
The only people who were willing to play it were cringey autists and I hate hanging out with people who remind me of myself. I haven't touched my Switch in months either,
Too many stutters on the emulator
No Smash Run
I'm playing smash ultimate though
They didn't buff Jiggs
It has too few RPGs characters.
I didn't like any of the pass characters enough to buy them