>Mc has a regular phone rather than a rotin phone
yet another proof that the mc came from the real world and got isekaied into the poke world rather than traveling back in time
You can buy shirts with pokeballs on them on Amazon right now.
6 months ago
Anonymous
so youre implying that, in the fictional pokemon universe, the people in the real world perceive pokemon as a fictional franchise created by satoshi tajiri, but its actually real and takes place in another world, unbeknownst to anyone in the real world?
6 months ago
Anonymous
In the Pokemon multiverse there's a world on the other side of a wormhole which heavily resembles the real world in pretty much every way where they don't capture Pokemon but know Pokemon as a popular multimedia franchise, and this is where the protag of PLA comes from.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Ultimately, it depends on your interpretation of the Legends Protagonist, because it leaves things open-ended enough that a lot of answers are valid, and it's extremely unlikely they'll ever give a true answer, and any media that offers its own take can be easily disregarded as "that instance's" canon alone (I.E. Masters' Rei originating from a world that had people and Pokemon living together prior to getting sent to Hisui) due to the nature of Pokemon as a multiverse franchise.
They could be an amnesiac Lucas/Dawn after becoming champion, having been thoroughly judged and deemed ready to go to Hisui to help secure a stable timeloop for the sake of Sinnoh, hence why you can go to the Hall of Origin to capture Arceus in BDSP but only after you 100% Legends.
Or they could be a regular trainer from somewhere in the modern Pokemon world that Arceus just so happened to see something special in.
Or they could even be someone from the world without Pokemon as living creatures that was depicted in the I Choose You movie, drawn in to experience the world of Pokemon proper.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The only interpretation that counts is Game Freak's. And they have a prime universe in mind with core releases (have done since Gen 3 and RS/E occurring at the same time as Gen 1 events). BDSP being a flat-remake indicates events of Gen 4 still happen as so and SV indicates Legends is canon. For all this to be so, Legends has to feature an older Lucas from DPPt/BDSP, because only a Lucas that became the Champion (defeating Galactic on the way) was capable of defeating Volo's plan and only an older teenager would be utilised by the Galaxy corp, meaning it had to be some years after becoming Champion.
It's all there in the fricking games, but no-one wants to play the games and time travel immediately filters a great deal of people.
6 months ago
Anonymous
There's at least two prime universes, then, because Legends very deliberately sets up Giratina's redemption arc to explain why it appears to banish Cyrus to the Distortion World in Platinum, implying the Hisui we see is the one that will develop into whatever universe Platinum belongs to.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>rehash
Not canon to the prime universe, weren't you listening? The paired games are the prime universe - the rehashes were evidence the multiverse was a thing (Sinnoh's climate change from DP to Platinum). BDSP was a refresh on Gen 4's story, before Game Freak went and added lore to prime universe (we know that Sinnoh as we know it gets founded after the events of Legends) following on from the events of Gen 4, featuring an older version of the Gen 4 MC.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Please explain how two games where different events occur are both the "prime" universe
6 months ago
Anonymous
The story told is canon to the prime universe, the way they go about it sadly means both cannot be canon. Black is the canon Gen 5 story, because N's goals were always idealistic in nature (to the point he ignores the players pokémon several times to say "nuh-huh am am rite"). Same with Violet, Y, Sun, Gold, Sword and Red. The only ones I have issue determining the canon version is Gen 3 and 4.
They write one story, the add in the alt details to it (comes from Gen 1 and Miyamoto telling them it'd be better to sell two versions with clear differences, rather than try the 6000 chance randomised encounter tables they were aiming for)
6 months ago
Anonymous
Would it even matter for gens 1 and 2? The events of those games are the same between versions. >The only ones I have issue determining the canon version is Gen 3 and 4.
Emerald and Platinum.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Rehahshes aren't canon, you dumb frick. Steven's Champion of Hoenn in all media, not the homosexual gym leader.
And yes, it would matter for the events of Gen 1 and 2 because it was some 4 years into Capsule/Pocket Monsters development when Miyamoto suggested two versions (meaning they had 4 years working to one game plot) and Gen 2 was based around Ho-Oh, up until the troony writing the tv show made his own non-canon pokémon they had to adopt (leading to Silver version). They write one plot, then add the differences into it. if both games told a different story, then clearly it's a 2-plot system. But they don't, they tell the same story, with details differing (and usually when shit doesn't line up in one version, it means it was the alt version).
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Steven's Champion of Hoenn in all media,
Except Wallace also appears in the Champion's tournament in the PWT.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>le rehash meme again >post-game lols on top
Like I said, this is a normalgay franchise. normalgays didn't buy rehashes, thus they're irrelevant. Since they binned them, the replacements do happen to remain canon to the story (because normalgays will buy DLC to continue to enjoy new content in Galar/Paldea). Funny how it goes.
Yes anon. Fact of the matter is to the world, the pair is the only version that exists, because only kids and the addicted bought the rehashes.
And due to that, the prime timeline only concerns itself with paired games (or games that are confirmed sequels to events in paired games like Legends) because Game Freak won't lose half the playerbase by referring to something that happened while they weren't playing. And "play the games" only works up to first-time end credits. EVERY developer knows 90% of your players won't see the end credits, thus anything after that is rarely considered past its sell-by. Start analysing the industry, it'll help you glean insight to how and why shit happens the way it does. WE'RE the outliers, but this is a normalgay-keyed franchise. Do the fricking maths.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>rehashes aren't canon >when cynthia mentions a trainer that defeated giratina in BW >when sinnoh's battle frontier is mentioned in XY >when colress is mentioned in XY and appears in Sun/Moon >when wallace can appear in the champion tournament in B2W2
also wallace was champion in the manga and anime at some point
6 months ago
Anonymous
>>when colress is mentioned in XY and appears in Sun/Moon
Not to give validation to his nonsense but BW2 aren't in the same vein as third versions.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>rehash
Play the games you stupid frick.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Yes anon. Fact of the matter is to the world, the pair is the only version that exists, because only kids and the addicted bought the rehashes.
And due to that, the prime timeline only concerns itself with paired games (or games that are confirmed sequels to events in paired games like Legends) because Game Freak won't lose half the playerbase by referring to something that happened while they weren't playing. And "play the games" only works up to first-time end credits. EVERY developer knows 90% of your players won't see the end credits, thus anything after that is rarely considered past its sell-by. Start analysing the industry, it'll help you glean insight to how and why shit happens the way it does. WE'RE the outliers, but this is a normalgay-keyed franchise. Do the fricking maths.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Legends has to feature an older Lucas from DPPt/BDSP
no it doesnt. the canon name of the male protagonist is Rei.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You are so fricking moronic it physically hurts me to share a planet with you.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>prime universe >When BW implies the opposite versions are different universes, which further implies that's true for every version
>rehash
Not canon to the prime universe, weren't you listening? The paired games are the prime universe - the rehashes were evidence the multiverse was a thing (Sinnoh's climate change from DP to Platinum). BDSP was a refresh on Gen 4's story, before Game Freak went and added lore to prime universe (we know that Sinnoh as we know it gets founded after the events of Legends) following on from the events of Gen 4, featuring an older version of the Gen 4 MC.
>Platinum is a non-canon rehash >When Cynthia in BW explicitly mentions the events of Platinum
You don't know what you're talking about
6 months ago
Anonymous
Why do they look exactly like the protags of DPP then?
The MC used to be a trainer you dumbfrick shithead. Do you even play the game? He is the one who teaches the Hisuian people how to battle with Pokemons.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I'm a trainer in real life, I could teach hicks to battle using my knowledge from the game.
it came to him in a dream
>no mention of time travel
so pla being a time travel story was just another one of this fanbase headcanon? good to know
you gotta be fricking moronic dude
Name a single moment in legend where time travel is mentioned or even imply.
>even imply.
The MC has a modern T-shirt and a mobile phone.
>Mc has a regular phone rather than a rotin phone
yet another proof that the mc came from the real world and got isekaied into the poke world rather than traveling back in time
ok but the shirt has a pokeball on it
You can buy shirts with pokeballs on them on Amazon right now.
so youre implying that, in the fictional pokemon universe, the people in the real world perceive pokemon as a fictional franchise created by satoshi tajiri, but its actually real and takes place in another world, unbeknownst to anyone in the real world?
In the Pokemon multiverse there's a world on the other side of a wormhole which heavily resembles the real world in pretty much every way where they don't capture Pokemon but know Pokemon as a popular multimedia franchise, and this is where the protag of PLA comes from.
Ultimately, it depends on your interpretation of the Legends Protagonist, because it leaves things open-ended enough that a lot of answers are valid, and it's extremely unlikely they'll ever give a true answer, and any media that offers its own take can be easily disregarded as "that instance's" canon alone (I.E. Masters' Rei originating from a world that had people and Pokemon living together prior to getting sent to Hisui) due to the nature of Pokemon as a multiverse franchise.
They could be an amnesiac Lucas/Dawn after becoming champion, having been thoroughly judged and deemed ready to go to Hisui to help secure a stable timeloop for the sake of Sinnoh, hence why you can go to the Hall of Origin to capture Arceus in BDSP but only after you 100% Legends.
Or they could be a regular trainer from somewhere in the modern Pokemon world that Arceus just so happened to see something special in.
Or they could even be someone from the world without Pokemon as living creatures that was depicted in the I Choose You movie, drawn in to experience the world of Pokemon proper.
The only interpretation that counts is Game Freak's. And they have a prime universe in mind with core releases (have done since Gen 3 and RS/E occurring at the same time as Gen 1 events). BDSP being a flat-remake indicates events of Gen 4 still happen as so and SV indicates Legends is canon. For all this to be so, Legends has to feature an older Lucas from DPPt/BDSP, because only a Lucas that became the Champion (defeating Galactic on the way) was capable of defeating Volo's plan and only an older teenager would be utilised by the Galaxy corp, meaning it had to be some years after becoming Champion.
It's all there in the fricking games, but no-one wants to play the games and time travel immediately filters a great deal of people.
There's at least two prime universes, then, because Legends very deliberately sets up Giratina's redemption arc to explain why it appears to banish Cyrus to the Distortion World in Platinum, implying the Hisui we see is the one that will develop into whatever universe Platinum belongs to.
>rehash
Not canon to the prime universe, weren't you listening? The paired games are the prime universe - the rehashes were evidence the multiverse was a thing (Sinnoh's climate change from DP to Platinum). BDSP was a refresh on Gen 4's story, before Game Freak went and added lore to prime universe (we know that Sinnoh as we know it gets founded after the events of Legends) following on from the events of Gen 4, featuring an older version of the Gen 4 MC.
Please explain how two games where different events occur are both the "prime" universe
The story told is canon to the prime universe, the way they go about it sadly means both cannot be canon. Black is the canon Gen 5 story, because N's goals were always idealistic in nature (to the point he ignores the players pokémon several times to say "nuh-huh am am rite"). Same with Violet, Y, Sun, Gold, Sword and Red. The only ones I have issue determining the canon version is Gen 3 and 4.
They write one story, the add in the alt details to it (comes from Gen 1 and Miyamoto telling them it'd be better to sell two versions with clear differences, rather than try the 6000 chance randomised encounter tables they were aiming for)
Would it even matter for gens 1 and 2? The events of those games are the same between versions.
>The only ones I have issue determining the canon version is Gen 3 and 4.
Emerald and Platinum.
Rehahshes aren't canon, you dumb frick. Steven's Champion of Hoenn in all media, not the homosexual gym leader.
And yes, it would matter for the events of Gen 1 and 2 because it was some 4 years into Capsule/Pocket Monsters development when Miyamoto suggested two versions (meaning they had 4 years working to one game plot) and Gen 2 was based around Ho-Oh, up until the troony writing the tv show made his own non-canon pokémon they had to adopt (leading to Silver version). They write one plot, then add the differences into it. if both games told a different story, then clearly it's a 2-plot system. But they don't, they tell the same story, with details differing (and usually when shit doesn't line up in one version, it means it was the alt version).
>Steven's Champion of Hoenn in all media,
Except Wallace also appears in the Champion's tournament in the PWT.
>le rehash meme again
>post-game lols on top
Like I said, this is a normalgay franchise. normalgays didn't buy rehashes, thus they're irrelevant. Since they binned them, the replacements do happen to remain canon to the story (because normalgays will buy DLC to continue to enjoy new content in Galar/Paldea). Funny how it goes.
>rehashes aren't canon
>when cynthia mentions a trainer that defeated giratina in BW
>when sinnoh's battle frontier is mentioned in XY
>when colress is mentioned in XY and appears in Sun/Moon
>when wallace can appear in the champion tournament in B2W2
also wallace was champion in the manga and anime at some point
>>when colress is mentioned in XY and appears in Sun/Moon
Not to give validation to his nonsense but BW2 aren't in the same vein as third versions.
>rehash
Play the games you stupid frick.
Yes anon. Fact of the matter is to the world, the pair is the only version that exists, because only kids and the addicted bought the rehashes.
And due to that, the prime timeline only concerns itself with paired games (or games that are confirmed sequels to events in paired games like Legends) because Game Freak won't lose half the playerbase by referring to something that happened while they weren't playing.
And "play the games" only works up to first-time end credits. EVERY developer knows 90% of your players won't see the end credits, thus anything after that is rarely considered past its sell-by. Start analysing the industry, it'll help you glean insight to how and why shit happens the way it does. WE'RE the outliers, but this is a normalgay-keyed franchise. Do the fricking maths.
>Legends has to feature an older Lucas from DPPt/BDSP
no it doesnt. the canon name of the male protagonist is Rei.
You are so fricking moronic it physically hurts me to share a planet with you.
>prime universe
>When BW implies the opposite versions are different universes, which further implies that's true for every version
>Platinum is a non-canon rehash
>When Cynthia in BW explicitly mentions the events of Platinum
You don't know what you're talking about
Why do they look exactly like the protags of DPP then?
The MC used to be a trainer you dumbfrick shithead. Do you even play the game? He is the one who teaches the Hisuian people how to battle with Pokemons.
I'm a trainer in real life, I could teach hicks to battle using my knowledge from the game.
>real world to pokéworld
He already knew about pokémon before that, stupid speedreader kek
The very first scene.
No, because mechanics were different in Legends. :^)
A shirt and a phone from another world that has those things.
stop being a literal braindead moron
Wasn't that a big part of the marketing?
yeah, just like the paradox being from the past and future 🙂
Being an isekai does not negate it being a time travel story you moron.
This is like saying, "If you got off a bus, you must be from a different neighborhood"
It's more like, "If you got off a bus, you must be a superstar sports celebrity"
Except back then world dimension travel wasn't a concept at all.
he didn't, that was a joke
its imagination sweatie