>we need a pair of earlygame novelty Pokemon to showcase "wow, Pokemon can only appear early in the morning or late at night!" that no one will actually use because they're not even meant to be good and exist solely for this novelty purpose
It's funny that modern Pokemon no longer follows this concept, and yet, there are still Pokemon being made that are absolute Ledian-tier garbage in battle.
>Most annoying encounter method
I wanna say you stopped at gen 2 but you didn't even get past the first gym if playing the game in the morning was the most annoying one for you.
>b***h can't handle being wrong so fixates on something pointless
Everytime
1 month ago
Anonymous
Post your 5 worse encounter methods, how many there are in total, and where day/night falls specifically.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Damn gotta list off five things more annoying then playing for 5 minutes before ten? Really putting the bar high.
Honey trees, Roaming, Safari zone, heracross headbutting and feebas fishing (basically the same thing), waiting for shit to get summoned in gen 7.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>playing the game is worse than sitting there not playing it
Okay.
1 month ago
Anonymous
thats literally what honey trees are though, and yes actively doing something thats annoying is more annoying then remembering to play for like five minutes before 10. that isnt a herculean chore you think it is
1 month ago
Anonymous
>honey trees bad because of waiting >day/night good because waiting >remembering to play for like five minutes before 10 is fine >remembering to look at a tree any time within 24 hours is bad
No one is saying any of these are herculean tasks. It's just annoying to have to catch things at a specific time if you have a life.
1 month ago
Anonymous
one is waiting for one chance to catch something and the other is (potentially) waiting for a period of time to catch something. Honestly most people's schedules would make catching daytime only pokemon harder then morning or night.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Do you now know what "one of the worst" means?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, and its marginally worse than base, thats the point. Including everything other than fighting a pokemon and throw ball at it is your prerogative i guess
1 month ago
Anonymous
Damn gotta list off five things more annoying then playing for 5 minutes before ten? Really putting the bar high.
Honey trees, Roaming, Safari zone, heracross headbutting and feebas fishing (basically the same thing), waiting for shit to get summoned in gen 7.
this
>playing the game is worse than sitting there not playing it
Okay.
Sorry anon, its pretty dange low on the tottum pole of "Annoying shit" in pokemon. Actually ,I wouldnt even classify it as annoying, just POTENTIALLY inconvenient. setting an alarm to do something at a certain time is infinetly less of a pain then having to do something for a while or having to having to set up something and come back in a preset time.
Bitch, am I some old frick to be waking up in the morning?
>What the frick were they thinking?
They were thinking Johto is just a sucky expansion for Kanto and made just to be a filler.
Now if you excuse me,
BEHOLD BETTER LEDIAN!
kill it with fire, or ghosts?
eh, ledian's way cooler anyhow.
>What the frick were they thinking?
They were thinking Johto is just a sucky expansion for Kanto and made just to be a filler.
Now if you excuse me,
BEHOLD BETTER LEDIAN!
i dont think orbeetle is necessarily a 'better ledian', theyre doing different things concept wise
orbeetle is alien, essentially a biological ufo. ledian is like a kamen rider bug
When people say "better Ledian" we mainly mean stats.
Yes, Orbeetle is a two-stage evolution, but it's crazy how every single one of Orbeetle's stats mogs Ledian.
It's also ironic that the very first set of games where Dexit happened, they proceed to make a Pokemon that entirely outclasses Ledian, while Ledian has been absent for two whole Gens now. Please give Ledian the biggest glow up ever. Quiver Dance [spoiler]or even an omniboost move similar to No Retreat, Boomburst, Aerliate.[/spoiler]
Ledian had incredible availability in both XY and SM (literal route 1 mon in both SM and USUM)
Orbeetle isn't in SV either, and it's Gigantamax form will never feature in another game EVER again.
Contrary to what this board leads you to believe, Ledian is a well liked Pokemon and just fine the way it is.
yes it is, it was literally designed to replace Ledian. The Johto dex and Gen 2 as a whole is the Wacky Deli of Pokemon, Game Freak didn't want to do Pokemon anymore so they did everything they could to make GSC fail and make people hate the Gen 2 pokemon. Johtimmies were just too dumb to realize they were he butt of the joke. Sugimori even said himself that when he called Gen babyish garbage. That's why most of Gen 2 was erased the first chance they got during SwSh's Dexit.
Orbeetle flopped. First off, it evolves to it's good form at 30. That's WAY too late for a bug pokemon, and one that you want to be strong ASAP. Dottler is complete trash and unusable. This is exemplified by SWSH's gameplay being kind of a joke, so Orbeetle just falls behind way too much by the time it does evolve. At that point, Ledian is still doing fine as a support with screens or a mixed threat in GSC with ele punches. So it's the completely opposite way, Ledian is better than Orbeetle in every way. Ledian > Orbeetle. Cope SWSH zoomers, your game is trash LMAO.
yes it is, it was literally designed to replace Ledian. The Johto dex and Gen 2 as a whole is the Wacky Deli of Pokemon, Game Freak didn't want to do Pokemon anymore so they did everything they could to make GSC fail and make people hate the Gen 2 pokemon. Johtimmies were just too dumb to realize they were he butt of the joke. Sugimori even said himself that when he called Gen babyish garbage. That's why most of Gen 2 was erased the first chance they got during SwSh's Dexit.
I noticed this trend where someone will bring up a subject in one thread and then someone like OP will make a separate thread on the same subject. For what purpose? Did you forget to post in that thread or something?
OP here I genuinely have no idea what thread you’re talking about. I made the thread because I was trying to use Ledian in a normal playthrough and it’s such a shitmon you can’t even use it in the story mode.
It happens when some moron gets btfo in the discussion, so they make a second thread or move to a new one to pretend they "won" when they really just want a safe space. See the JohtoBlack folk doing it here
They were thinking that some midwit on Image Board for autistic homosexuals will be absolutely filtered by absolutely most kino mon ever created... and they were correct.
>gen 2
they weren't thinking
Soul
they were thinking this was the last game in the series
>we need a pair of earlygame novelty Pokemon to showcase "wow, Pokemon can only appear early in the morning or late at night!" that no one will actually use because they're not even meant to be good and exist solely for this novelty purpose
It's funny that modern Pokemon no longer follows this concept, and yet, there are still Pokemon being made that are absolute Ledian-tier garbage in battle.
Not even close. You can call Spidops a shitmon all you like but at least it gets Sticky Webs and Spikes. Nowhere near Ledian-tier.
>let's make a good design then give it absolute dogshit stats and one of the most annoying encounter methods ever so no one has a reason to use it
>Most annoying encounter method
I wanna say you stopped at gen 2 but you didn't even get past the first gym if playing the game in the morning was the most annoying one for you.
>one of the
Illiterate homosexual.
Shit aint even top five
Does that make you more or less of an illiterate moron?
>b***h can't handle being wrong so fixates on something pointless
Everytime
Post your 5 worse encounter methods, how many there are in total, and where day/night falls specifically.
Damn gotta list off five things more annoying then playing for 5 minutes before ten? Really putting the bar high.
Honey trees, Roaming, Safari zone, heracross headbutting and feebas fishing (basically the same thing), waiting for shit to get summoned in gen 7.
>playing the game is worse than sitting there not playing it
Okay.
thats literally what honey trees are though, and yes actively doing something thats annoying is more annoying then remembering to play for like five minutes before 10. that isnt a herculean chore you think it is
>honey trees bad because of waiting
>day/night good because waiting
>remembering to play for like five minutes before 10 is fine
>remembering to look at a tree any time within 24 hours is bad
No one is saying any of these are herculean tasks. It's just annoying to have to catch things at a specific time if you have a life.
one is waiting for one chance to catch something and the other is (potentially) waiting for a period of time to catch something. Honestly most people's schedules would make catching daytime only pokemon harder then morning or night.
Do you now know what "one of the worst" means?
Yeah, and its marginally worse than base, thats the point. Including everything other than fighting a pokemon and throw ball at it is your prerogative i guess
this
Sorry anon, its pretty dange low on the tottum pole of "Annoying shit" in pokemon. Actually ,I wouldnt even classify it as annoying, just POTENTIALLY inconvenient. setting an alarm to do something at a certain time is infinetly less of a pain then having to do something for a while or having to having to set up something and come back in a preset time.
>greentext capitalizer
kek
b***h you catch it in the fricking grass in the morning how hard is that??
Bitch, am I some old frick to be waking up in the morning?
kill it with fire, or ghosts?
eh, ledian's way cooler anyhow.
weird thing to say when the same games introduced shit like heracross
>weird thing to say when the same games have multiple most annoying encounter methods
Redditmon
if some pokemon dont have small numbers, then no pokemon could have big numbers
Bsckyard Syndrome. They hated Gen 2 Pokémon and wanted to sabotage them so they wouldn’t overshadow the GenWun Pokemon
>muh smoggy viability!!! nooooo!!!
i beat the champ with it what's the problem?
>What the frick were they thinking?
They were thinking Johto is just a sucky expansion for Kanto and made just to be a filler.
Now if you excuse me,
BEHOLD BETTER LEDIAN!
i dont think orbeetle is necessarily a 'better ledian', theyre doing different things concept wise
orbeetle is alien, essentially a biological ufo. ledian is like a kamen rider bug
BEHOLD BETTER KAMEN RIDER BUG
>Kamen Rider
More like Pulseman aka Gamefreak's knockoff Rockman
When people say "better Ledian" we mainly mean stats.
Yes, Orbeetle is a two-stage evolution, but it's crazy how every single one of Orbeetle's stats mogs Ledian.
It's also ironic that the very first set of games where Dexit happened, they proceed to make a Pokemon that entirely outclasses Ledian, while Ledian has been absent for two whole Gens now.
Please give Ledian the biggest glow up ever. Quiver Dance [spoiler]or even an omniboost move similar to No Retreat, Boomburst, Aerliate.[/spoiler]
Ledian had incredible availability in both XY and SM (literal route 1 mon in both SM and USUM)
Orbeetle isn't in SV either, and it's Gigantamax form will never feature in another game EVER again.
Contrary to what this board leads you to believe, Ledian is a well liked Pokemon and just fine the way it is.
Orbeetle flopped. First off, it evolves to it's good form at 30. That's WAY too late for a bug pokemon, and one that you want to be strong ASAP. Dottler is complete trash and unusable. This is exemplified by SWSH's gameplay being kind of a joke, so Orbeetle just falls behind way too much by the time it does evolve. At that point, Ledian is still doing fine as a support with screens or a mixed threat in GSC with ele punches. So it's the completely opposite way, Ledian is better than Orbeetle in every way. Ledian > Orbeetle. Cope SWSH zoomers, your game is trash LMAO.
>Ledian is a well liked Pokemon and just fine the way it is.
Now say that without crying.
yes it is, it was literally designed to replace Ledian. The Johto dex and Gen 2 as a whole is the Wacky Deli of Pokemon, Game Freak didn't want to do Pokemon anymore so they did everything they could to make GSC fail and make people hate the Gen 2 pokemon. Johtimmies were just too dumb to realize they were he butt of the joke. Sugimori even said himself that when he called Gen babyish garbage. That's why most of Gen 2 was erased the first chance they got during SwSh's Dexit.
I noticed this trend where someone will bring up a subject in one thread and then someone like OP will make a separate thread on the same subject. For what purpose? Did you forget to post in that thread or something?
OP here I genuinely have no idea what thread you’re talking about. I made the thread because I was trying to use Ledian in a normal playthrough and it’s such a shitmon you can’t even use it in the story mode.
It happens when some moron gets btfo in the discussion, so they make a second thread or move to a new one to pretend they "won" when they really just want a safe space. See the JohtoBlack folk doing it here
They were thinking that some midwit on Image Board for autistic homosexuals will be absolutely filtered by absolutely most kino mon ever created... and they were correct.
"TMs will fix it"
>meanwhile someone else on the team is intentionally making TMs weaker than in gen 1
Elemental punch TMs were pretty rad though. I really miss that.
It's soul and hardmode