What truly killed WoW? You have to pick 3.
1. Activision Merge
2. Normalgays getting access to the internet via smartphones
3. Minmax culture
4. Videogame streaming
5. Esports
6. Sponsors
7. Lack of Gatekeeping
8. People getting a life
9. Bad writing
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3,7,9
It will always be the players that kill something.
3 and 9 heavily contradict 7?
>make an MMORPG, except dumb it down for schoolkids and bored housewives
>OP still thinks he's an elite hardcore niche g4m3r for playing it
lol this homie actually wants another WIldstar
imaigne making shit for the top 1% of autistic raiders imagine making that game and finding out 1% of morons cant sustain your dumbshit game lol lmao
>what do you mean make something not moronic on either end what voodoo are you speaking the marketing dept didnt give me that option
9, 9, and 9
1, maybe a little bit of 3 especially because of addons, and because the rest don't mean shit I guess i'll pick the symptom of the cause being 9.
1 - Blizzard cleaned up for corporate culture and focused on satisfying investors rather than players
3 - Autists making the game unbearable to play if you happen to be 1pt below any stat they arbitrarily deem important
9 - No oversight for the writers from adding self-inserts, fetishes, or other unrelated shit that goes away from the game
>no oversight
>writers adding fetishes
welcome to outland
pick up the poop.
I know you said pick 3, but I'm going to ignore that and say all of those options contributed in some way.
Sorry I meant to say pick at least 3
WoW was never good.
In order of impact: 9, 3, & 1
eSports shit slowly turning it from a world you explore to a lobby based gratification simulator for trannies with nothing going on IRL.
WoW then
>Ok I need to travel to this region to find a guy who knows about this thing, later on we'll form a party to explore some ancient ruins with my friends
WoW now
>I need to spend 4 hours a week grinding this content so my eSports scores are high enough to sell game services, there is no other content.
Tell me how I know that you io, arena rating and parses aren't impressive ...
telling me how i are knowing you are ESL moron......................................
Ok blue parser idiot tell me how literally infinite content makes the game worse
>literally infinite content
you are a rat trapped in a maze
>Minmax culture
The moment people figured out that BiS was a thing, this started. Everyone acts like this is a new thing that has slowly evolved over years and not something that has been there since fricking AQ dropped.
That said, 8 is by far the most painful to experience. They're really shit at handling their own story.
bro some spergs trying to napkin math their crit% softcaps is infinitely less bad than shitters speedrunning things and shitting their pants in autistic rage if you pull one extra mob more than needed because
>muh SECONDS, you PLEBBBBBBB REEEEEEEEEEE now to ragequit and waste 20 minutes finding another group because of your 10 second faux paus because i am very smart
>What killed the most played and iconic MMO that is still number one in the industry
ZIVTroons, did your 1 hour of content for this year already dry up or what
>1. Activision Merge
>2. Normalgays getting access to the internet via smartphones
obviously these
>3. Minmax culture
I don't think this was so much an issue back then as it became but my memory is shit
>4. Videogame streaming
>5. Esports
>6. Sponsors
probably didn't do them any favors
>7. Lack of Gatekeeping
to an extent imo
>8. People getting a life
underrated
>9. Bad writing
no one cared about writing when wow was good
I hope that elf has a huge wiener
All elves should be futanari.
A combination of the following
>Every expansion is cut off from the main game
>Focusing more and more on instanced content both for PvE and PvP with each expansion
>Addons became so mandatory to the point the current game is designed with them in mind
>Dungeon/Raid finder implemented in the wrong way making it trivial to just kick people turning other players into a statistic since the spot will automatically be filled by someone else
>Classes all feel the same to play now
And plenty more.
3,5,9
NElf mommy.
>still the most popular MMO
>still makes homosexuals from inferior "MMOs" seethe
>>What truly- ACKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>best year
>no context or anything
>rings of power is the most watched show on Amazon prime named rings of power and by that metric is a smashing success.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THIS CANNOT BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you believe Dragonflight is doing better than Wrath (not classic) you are completely delusional
Its the only expansion after Wrath that ended with a higher player count than at launch
>candy crush is the best game ever because player numbers
lol
best, most popular, most successful and most profitable game in its genre, mobileslop
just like wow is in mmorpgs
1, 3, 9
The merge meant a lot of funds and talent were shuffled around. It also increased the gear daily grind, which was already shitty, but got much worse.
The minmax culture came about as there were less and less things to do except raid. Interaction with the world got shafted and replaced with running dailies and weeklies for tokens and purples.
And the writing just got awful. There was no reason to care about the world or lore anymore. Everyone interesting died as a raid boss, or faded into obscurity the moment a questline was done.
>3. Minmax culture
this is the actual dumbest mother fricking idea that anyone on Ganker can say.
It's the essence of gaming itself. wargaming is about minmaxing and winning. you don't war and try to lose.
1. Activision merge literally did nothing. Blizzard's main studio operated independently from Activision's.
2. Normalgays are what made up 99% of the population.
3. A tiny innocuous autistic population of tryhard morons min-maxing that 99% of the population would never interact with wasn't the reason people quit. The only morons who cry about min-maxing just want to get carried through everything and throw a shitfit when they get cut for under performance.
4. Streamers like to believe they have more influence than they really do.
5. Refer to 3.
6. Had no bearing on WoW's design.
7. Gatekeeping is how you kill your MMO.
8. More likely the case. Normies don't autistically play the same game for 5+ years on end they always move on to something new.
9. Warcraft writing was always shit.
The developers and the community.
Hgggg more
Flying mounts
You've picked the worst time to doompost about the game, cause the numbers are up across the board.
Lul
They don't publicize the numbers anymore so how would you know?
Endgame participation is up vs start of expansion and Blizzard confirmed too that there are more players now than at launch
Probably because of War Within/Metzen
Combo of War Within, Metzen, and Emerald Dream finally being added to the game. Shame it turned out to just be green Ardenweald with a bit of Cata Hyjal here and there
Well the zone is pretty and there are a lot of customizations for druidgays
I quit right before Cataclysm, then bought the expansion 6 months later and came back to find that everything was fricked and quit again.
1, 3, 9
And when i say writing, i mean the setting. Narrative did get worse but it was never the strong point.
it was me. I killed WoW.
WOW took a world of humans and proceeded to become a fictional representation of replacement theory as tens of millions of non-humans changed the entire landscape into something unrecognizable from what it was in WC1 or WC2. It's poetic really that after everything was shat up and shit on by hordeBlack folk, trannies and normgroids, there was nothing left to despoil. World of Warcraft more like World of Morgoth. Evil can't create only pervert, subvert and mutilate.
I played BC and Wrath back in the day then the Classic versions for both.
The biggest difference? The fact that playing MMOs is no longer a unique way to interact with and play with friends in a way where you're building each other up.
The internet was still young and online games were still new, it was still cool to be playing with people 1,000s of miles away.
Now nobody gives a shit, half the time players aren't even looking at the screen for more than a few minutes at a time because of their phone/discord/other screens. There is much less of a genuine feel to it all.
I played Wrath Classic and it was hell. I couldn't get in any runs because I didn't have a good enough gear score, but I couldn't get gear because literally nobody let me run, not even a Naxx when everyone else was full Ulduar gear.
>7. Lack of Gatekeeping
No gatekeeping is the main reason WoW succeded in the first place.
>normal gays did not have access to the internet until around 2010 when smart phones really started getting popular
Normalgays have been using the internet since before you were conceived.
you're super wrong boomer, typical lead poisoning arrogance
My normalgay sisters didn't even know what the internet was until smartphones came along.
Raiding
8 Doesn't help at all. When your core base grows up and gets more responsibilities it doesn't help. I miss when I used to play, but I wouldn't play now, too little time and I'd rather not be paying for it, when I have other games I can play that don't have a subscription.
The 15 dollar filter strikes another victim
I mean I can afford it, but then I feel like it's the only game I can play, and with most of my online friends I used to play with gone, I know I'd log in for a month, mess around with quests then let the subscription die. My true irl friends I have never played it back in the day, and pretty much all of my online friends from that time are gone.
Plus it's a chore to teach the game to my new online friends if they are willing to sub. I tried that once.
1, 3, 9
>7. Lack of Gatekeeping
How do you gatekeep a game where the devs want more players (so more money) and you can and will be banned if you try to be a total prick (gatekeep)?
1. Women
(I don't hate women)
they killed the social aspect of the game. also i personally didnt have any investment in the world after wrath, i think a lot of others felt the same way
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>WoW killed
>when retail is the #1 MMO and classic is the #2 MMO
>its king shit of turd mountain
>its great
>its the best
>bigly
ESG.
Probably the fact it is 20 years old. Older than Gankers userbase.
Transexuality and blackness (or to be more precise, the apology of these two diseases)
what does that mean
3
7
9
No amount of shilling will make me forget how they raped WoW once and for all in Shadowlands with a censorship patch.
>No amount of -schizo babble-
why do trannies keep suggesting people take meds when it clearly hasnt helped their problem of not being a failson
>can't converse
Uh, why did they make her pass him the water and meds so... sensually?
listening to the forums and giving them what they think they wanted
I know a guy who somehow insists that WoW has a good story.
>can't refute that wow is still #1 (wan)
>gets btfo
>proceeds to shit himself and call everyone a shill
I am not trying to get you to play WoW, Black person brain.
Nor am I advertising it.
I am just telling you that you picked an extremely bad time to doompost
Caring about WoW being #1 doesn't mean much when the field only consists of two relevant playerbases in a dying genre.
1 + 2 are the root cause of 3 - 9, so yea. Those
>1
Lead to greedier practices, things like shop mounts, WoW token, etc. can all be attributed to this.
>2
This has no impact, normalgays were already on their way out of WoW when smartphones started booming.
>3
This did a ton of damage by itself, the urge to optimize lead to the cancer known as M+, all because it ties into #5 even though it was borne out of the nastiest sweatlords who had no other things to do in that time.
>4
Streamers are shit but it's arguably one of the few things keeping WoW semi-relevant, for what it's worth. I don't care much for the talking heads and I think jerking off over Twitch viewership is a bizarre thing.
>5
Ironically, had it stayed out of the PvE side of things, esports angle would've been fine. But Blizzard just wanted to see teams of burnt out, depressed autists struggle for entire weeks with minimal rest to clear their overtuned garbage that the devs can't even playtest properly.
>6
Sponsors aren't really a problem, more a symptom of the other points.
>7
What is there left to gatekeep? How do you gatekeep a game that had millions of people playing at one point? The ship on that has long passed.
>8
Inevitable. This isn't an issue if Blizzard didn't get so complacent.
>9
Number one reason here. A lot of dudes I knew who got into WoW did so because of "COOL ARTHAS!!" or "FOR THE HORDE / ALLIANCE" or some other variation thereof. People were immersed in the world and loved it, they treated the lore with respect. Everyone embraced the character fantasy of their respective races and classes. It's kind of hard to take that seriously when every new patch pisses on what once was or just pulling out the "REMEMBER [so and so]?" card without injecting anything actually new into the mix. The writing was never that amazing but the unique style and gameplay immersion helped carry it. Unfortunately, that milquetoast, serviceable writing has turned into something terrible where it's so jarring from what it once was.
Blizzard, what else.
Bad writing. They hired californian homosexuals.
3. min maxing their retirements at all costs
5. forced esports after patch 2.0
9. esg
Mostly 3, 5, and 9. Now the game only has furgays and pedos who run 60+ mythic dungeons a week and pay for tokens and ERP for gold.
>talentless woke homosexuals getting employed and taking over as they said in an interview halfway through legion
>activision merge
>share holders over gaming
>seeing players as payers
>min max homosexuals
WoW was just "killed" for me before I even played it
>Talking to friends
>Say "hey I know you play WoW, might be fun if I join in"
>They say no, because I'd never be able to catch up or keep up
>End up not playing WoW
The reason early WoW was a success because everyone was on an even playing field and grew up with the game.
Now WoW is competing with a bunch of other online multiplayer games. Except WoW has a massively frontloaded commitment cost and if you're unable/unwilling to pay it there's basically no point.
The problem is why Diablo 4 implemented level scaling the way it did. Blizzard recognized the problem and tried to fix it.
None of the above. They switched to going for expansion based systems before 2007 and focusing on PVP and just endgame. When originally they were going to release a lot of lateral content for pre-60 they instead promised expansions and level increases.
Only listening to the tiny amount of crybabies on the forums instead of sticking to their guns and just making the game how it was originally laid out.
If you were all over the blizzard forums in 2005-2006 it's literally your fault.
Also when they added PVP to the game ruined it. Instead of keeping it exploration and PVE oriented.
Firing the original dev team the day wow launched and tbc and beyond being in the hands of EQ raid trannies.