This is the reasonable answer. However, I feel a perverse sort of loyalty towards the game I bought and not finishing it would be insulting to its existence so I force myself through it.
FF7 remake. Overall I like the gameplay well enough but the final chapter is so bad I can't even describe how bad it is. It enrages me that there are people in this world who think the story of ff7r is good in any way. The only good parts of the story are ripped directly from ff7 and every piece of original writing is some of the worst shit I've ever suffered through in video games.
I could stomach the earlier parts of OG writing although I weren’t too excited about them, but that final chapter, Jesus frick it was horrible. Like fever dream bad.
The very end seemed so unnecessary too, they could have ended it without the random Sephiroth nonsense and it would have been significantly better, just give us a Jenova battle when he shows up, then Sephiroth can fricking bail, and the gang can escape, boss gauntlet vs Shinra machines, final scene on the plains outside Midgar
I couldn't even tell what the frick was happening in that whole sequence at the end
I still wonder why they didn’t leave the first Jenovs encounter for the ending. Yeah, Motor Ball would have been too lame of an ending for a game, but they could have easily just added more buildup to Dreamweaver and made it the final boss. It’s not like the fight was *that* important to bind to the office where it happened now, I’d even argue that keeping the office scene as it was would have been better.
Agreed, Jenova was surely an easy pick for an endgame boss seeing as she's a recurring fight, and she would have been far better than motor ball, the gang could have been pursued by Shinra on the motorway, and then shit could have got real with Sephiroth flying over, killing a bunch of mobs and then chasing us down like an angry magpie
It's not like they made bad decisions all throughout either, some of the stuff they added in was honestly pretty good, that ending was just bafflingly bad, I wonder if it was quite a late decision to include
I liked fighting the weird cloud, barrett, and tifa bosses, they could have been a great addition later in the series, maybe during clouds internal strife sick man emo time instead
Absolute crack pipe game dev moment
tbqtbh I was being hyperbolic in my first post. I actually did like a lot of the fleshed out characterization they did. Tifa is already a better character in ff7r than she was in ff7. It's baffling because the adapted and expanded ff7 worldbuilding is great but the compilation and OG stuff is fricking terrible. Did they delegate that shit to interns or outsource it or something? The craziest thing is that Nomura of all people has gone on record saying he was the tard wrangler on this project and the story would've been even worse without him.
>N-N-NO IT'S LUDOKINO BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT AND THAT ALONE MAKES IT GOOD, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE GOOD TO BE GOOD >N-N-NOBODY EVER WANTED A FAITHFUL REMAKE AAAANYWAY IN THE NEARLY 25 YEARS THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR ONE >Y-Y-YOU JUST GOT FILTERED
>It enrages me that there are people in this world who think the story of ff7r is good in any way.
Not only that but some people pretend FF7R part 2 will return to being a remake. Why?
Same. I never played 5 or Infinite and refuse to acknowledge 343's shit as canon. Chief and Cortana are still adrift in the Forward Unto Dawn.
The Covenant in Halo 3 was the peak of the original trilogy.
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
moronic enemies like the bikes and unstaggerable zombies
Level design takes a nosedive after the city
Rachel parts are a waste of time
Every weapon has pretty much the same moveset
Dumb gimmick bossfights in the second half
I kept playing because the combat itself is great, it's just that everything around it is awful so I hoped it would get better at some point but it just got worse.
Final Fantasy XV left me kind of gobsmacked when I finished it. First off you play a slooow paced open world game that then suddenly turns into an on-rails experience that just TURBO SPEEDS through the rest of the plot dizzyingly fast.
The actual ending was fine, but the sheer insanity of the pacing of the game, frick.
You could feel the exact moment they ran out of money.
I felt like this in 2017 when I first played it, then I replayed it at the beginning of last year while fully knowing how shit the combat was and how rushed it got after a certain point in the game. And it was actually nice, even if only for the whole on an adventure with the bros feelings. The DLCs were bad-ok, except for Ignis' which was really nice and showed how much of a true friend he was and elevated the whole experience from a 5.5 to a 7 something.
seconding halo infinite. every single reviewer that mentioned its campaign as a positive is basically admitting they didn't play more than an hour of it because the entire rest is just that same first hour over and over.
I feel like most bad games just go to the bottom of the backlog never to return. Unless they're disappointing sequels that I felt obligated to finish because I liked the original.
I liked a lot of things about Mass Effect 3 in retrospect but the fallout over the ending did lasting damage to my ability to get too excited over new things.
Elden Ring
I went into it hoping for an 8 out of 10, and the game rattled its way down to a 4 by the time I finished it. >Miyazaki's SHATTERED Masterpiece >Perfectly (im)balanced >A Broken Masterpiece
Frick this shit.
Miyazaki's MEAGERpiece is more like it
I wouldn't shit on it that hard, but there are some games where you enter into a fugue state and just want to finish it out of a weird sense of obligation, even though you've not been enjoying it for ages. It's like continuing to watch a tv series that already jumped the shark because you were 4 seasons in already.
Elden Ring absolutely suffers from that. They could have cut a quarter of play time out of it and vastly improved the game.
in order to properly judge a piece of media you need to finished it, so i don't understand why you think only people that enjoy a piece of media finished it?
not that anon but every game after the first one is just a stupid massive retcon to the previous title to the point the writers just gave up on making sense of the story they wrote and left it incomplete to this day.
the plot is nonsense and the characters make the worst decisions possible, along with the new characters looking completely out of place next to the old ones
it's a shame to, because there are a couple scenes in the game with the old characters that are legitimately good
it's a real shame because where the first two games shined, the characters, descriptions, and audio were a complete step down and the game feels like a low budget afterthought with new writers
if you still want to get into the series i recommend corpse-party rebuilt, zero, the 2021 version, and maybe book of shadows if you want more of the less utilized characters from the 2021 version
just don't play the secret chapter of bos and any of the other sequels if you don't want a bad taste in your mouth afterwards
Darkest Dungeon 2. I just don't like it. It's too hard and dying constantly to barely unlock one or two more things so your next run you can go slightly farther but still die is tarded as frick.
Bonelab.
It totally, irredeemably killed VR for me.
Coming from Boneworks I have no idea how they could have fricked it up so bad.
It honestly felt like I was scammed and I pirated it.
what if the game was good in the first few hours but got bad near the end? Yeah I could drop the game, but if its easy enough to still play on regardless then I might as well slug threw it.
Because presentation is important. If I have to waste 4 hours of my time until the game gets good because incompetent developers can't make it enjoyable from the start then it's not worth it
yeah but what does that have to do with "the game started out pretty good, but then it got bad"? its impossible to drop a game in 1-2 hours for being a bad game, if its only a bad game later on.
what if the game was good in the first few hours but got bad near the end? Yeah I could drop the game, but if its easy enough to still play on regardless then I might as well slug threw it.
Sometimes you get roped into being player 2 and they want to keep pushing through that turd and you just get forced along because they won't give up on it.
On a related note, frick you Resident Evil 6.
AI somnium files nirvana initiative. Being a VN from a writer notorious for late-game twists, I was really hoping it would do something to redeem itself by the end. It did not. All the new characters were shit, some of the returning characters were made worse, the big twist was moronic, and the writing just generally felt like a massive downgrade.
TotK, it was gonna be BotW but I literally felt like beating it would be pointless. But for TotK I pirated it the day it leaked and wanted to beat it before tendies got it. When I got to the credits I realized how much of a waste of time that glorified DLC was.
Fallout 4 tho i didn't finish it, I got this weird feeling checked my play timeregrettably 100 hours on the dot felt utterly disgusted with how little fun i had and never touched it again
Solasta. Was playing coop with friend, story is "uuuuh get the 6 macguffin to saaaave the world", 85% enemy diversity is spider or fire thing. the only funni was the 4 dwarfs moment. the game was only fun for the first macguffin everything is boring and shitty writing afterward...
Jak II, didn't finish it and never will. Frick that game and its absolute dogshit design and cheap difficulty. Precursor Legacy is one of the best platformers ever made, and I will forever be stunned by how hard they dropped the ball on the sequel.
I've seen zero discussion of this game on V thus far so I may be the only one to have played it, but this Kermit montage was my reaction to finishing Death's Gambit: Afterlife
Death's Gambit was a pretty damn good game, simple but with lots of interesting ideas and great visuals as well as music, the one thing which was absolutely stellar about the game was its tone. The tone above everything, it was very somber, melancholic, and it had lots of kino moments. Death's Gambit Afterlife is a "remake" of the original game, with a lot more mechanics, areas, bosses, just more content in general.
HOWEVER; Afterlife came out as a free update, replacing the original and adding a lot of content, and without exaggeration, it is A FRICKING SHITPOST, they turned a grim dark miserable story about a guy who is looking for his probably dead mother in a destroyed kingdom into a fricking joke, you have squirrel people in little kinght hats riding on frogs fighting you with sticks, and its not a one-of joke either, they are all over the game. There's so much silly goofy goober stuff, like a giant fat rabbit underground who you have to feed carrots to, it completely ruins the feel the original game had. Seriously, this "expansion" is like drawing a rage comic jackie chan on your grandmas grave with a sharpie, I have no fricking idea what the people making the game were thinking.
And of course, best of all, the original, the good version of the game is now only available if you frick around in the Steam settings, meaning that anyone who buys Death's Gambit (an otherwise pretty great game) will now be greeted with this redditor's wet dream of quirky chungus moments interlaced with the extremely mismatched grim and miserable story and setting of the game.
The worst part is if you ever played starbound in beta before all of the content was cut. It started as a nice game with potential and gradually got worse and worse.
I've played 999 and read Ever17 + Remember11.
I liked all 3, Remember11 not so much.
AI: Somnium wasn't bad, but it felt like they were too afraid to go deeper.
I had trouble liking the characters too, I think Date and the Yakuza boss were the ones I liked most.
The first AI game is fine, the second I think tries to go deeper and is absolutely abhorrent for it. Uchikochi does not do *deep* well at all, his attempts are all shallow because he's unironically dumb as shit trying to tackle subjects he cannot quite wrap his head around.
The former I wanted to rewind time, take back the hours I stuck into it and the cash I paid for it. Hated the writing so much and the retconning of established cultures and ideology from the first two.
The latter outright killed my desire to continue playing XIV, Heavensward was Peak, Shadowbringers excellent, and all the ambiguity Shadowbringers posited was utterly wasted for Muh Time frickery also everyone unquestioningly loves and agrees that Angel Dommy Mommy did nothing wrong at all ever.
I can accept writing is very subjective but if I go through what I perceive to be flagrant inconsistency for cheap bait and pandering, I cannot stand it. Also both titles made worse by the inability of either fandoms to accept that some people couldn't stand how the writers handled the plots and world.
Look I was all for EW in the first act when we see the effects of the fall of Garlemald, right up to the part where that Garlean Commander tops himself was genuinely great, loved the tone and what I thought we were in for.
Going to Elpis? Okay I preferred leaving it mired in mystery and through the recollections of other characters, but once we brought up the Moon Bunnies, end of the World but Pajeet Elephants need us to carry crates, time frickery and characters that previously expressed heavy doubts about the roles of Hydaelyn and Zodiak suddenly falling into perfect party line?
Nah not for me, I felt it flew off the rails and suffered from an appalling lack of writing direction, like the team realised that ShB brought up too many points of contention for how they wanted fans to perceive certain events, so time travel and 'I HAD A CONVOLUTED PLAN ALL ALONG' would do as a quick plaster over.
HOWEVER, Zenos was a small light in the tunnel for me, coming in like he did at the end, shutting everyone up and kicking arse just to get his final duel was incredibly kino. Not enough to redeem what I felt was a big waste of time otherwise, but it was a good stab.
>A what
Someone who is somehow committed to the idea that Venat was, at any point, a "bad guy". It's been a widely ridiculed and utterly moronic fan theory since ARR because it heavily relied on ESL-tier reading comprehension and outright ignoring half the plot. Venat was never going to be evil, and was never going to be a morally dubious character. They go to pretty big lengths to ram that down your throat in every expansion. >but once we brought up the Moon Bunnies
I guess that's just going to be jarring for people who never played FFIV so I'll leave that to subjective tastes. It was goofy, but I don't agree that it was a major issue, and the idea of lighthearted fun in a time where everything is going shit actually works really well with the overall narrative themes and thrust. >time frickery and characters that previously expressed heavy doubts about the roles of Hydaelyn and Zodiak suddenly falling into perfect party line?
Time frickery has been a major part of the story for a while now, but this wasn't even really time frickery, this was specifically about you learning the nature of the threat and nothing else, there is no "time frickery" so much as there is a 'walk through a dream' like sequence. You have to have completely misunderstood the story and how time travel works in the setting if you think there was any time frickery involved. And as for people having doubts about Hydaelyn that was an expression of their natural skepticism, they never once found or brought up legitimate issues other than "we shouldn't be so trusting of their good nature", so when they had been proven wrong they accepted that proof, what else did you want them to do? Be stubbornly moronic?
>...They go to pretty big lengths to ram that down your throat in every expansion.
Ah, I felt a little differently with how events surrounding the Warriors of Darkness and the destruction of Amaurot were depicted, I love ambiguity and the notion that even the designated 'all loving' deity figures are capable of heinous acts for supposedly benevolent reasons. Granted that may be approaching it with a completely different expectation to the standard saccharine character traits employed in JRPGs, appreciate the explanation.
>...actually works really well with the overall narrative themes and thrust.
Yeah I'm aware almost everything in XIV is full of easter eggs, nods and trivia for longtime fans, I'm not one of them. I grew up on different games with very different tones where RPGs were concerned, I suppose I viewed 'kitschy/cutesy' antics as ill-placed attempts at levity that bordered on the absurd. By my own admission I struggle to take some elements of the story seriously on aesthetics alone, I just cannot wrap my head around anything important being attributed to moon rabbits beyond light relief. But as you indicate that's on the player.
>...what else did you want them to do? Be stubbornly moronic?
Oh no nothing so drastic, I think I could have been mollified if any of it had been taken to task or if there was an option to even press Venat on the matter itself. I'll admit the reactionary part of me had me ranting to a mate when I saw the cutscenes at the end 'how dare you try and save yourselves, my plan is better cause I have a guy 12,000 years away ready to sort it out according to my time script, take sundering to the face skreeee'
Once again it probably is a matter of taste and how I wanted to see the points of ShB addressed, I wasn't satisfied by a binary 'all this was done because Venat had it all in hand, there is no deviating from this viewpoint that she was absolutely correct.'
Moral ambiguity is fine, and even very common in FFXIV, but this becomes just mediocre when that's all you have. Having more saccharine, straightforward characters balances this out, and that's what Hydaelyn/Venat was doing from the start. >how dare you try and save yourselves, my plan is better
Yea that's a bit of a weird take since she knew for certain their plan was doomed. This wasn't a case of "lets wait and see how it works" even being an option. This was "we either blow ourselves up in an Alexander-style paradox blast or we continue the timeline". As Elidibus tells you at the very start of the arch; "You cannot change the past". This isn't a warning, it's a statement of fact. People tend to misunderstand due to Shadowbringers but that game did something that is basically impossible for the setting by splitting timelines, something nothing else had been capable of doing in the entire history of the universe.
This wasn't a moral story about Venat's choices (she never actually had any, that was the point here) it was a tragedy about her unfortunate fate.
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I could probably provide a more eloquent and in-depth response as to what I personally found jarring about the tone. But I'm on a couple of strong beers and can feel myself slipping lol. I think it's just a matter of taste and acknowledging there are tonal and character decisions that I don't really care for.
> "You cannot change the past"
See this I'll say did throw me off, I took that exactly as you say, an iron-cast statement of fact, with the explicitly clear warning that the party could not and should not attempt to interfere in Elpis. Five minutes later we do exactly that, hence the impression of 'Oh here we go it's fantasy Back to the Future' time.
I won't contend that Venat's story depicts her as being caught in a catch 22, I suppose it's what I perceive as a 'willing nodding dog' response from all the other characters that the sundering and abandonment of other worlds is beyond any question because Venat is correct.
It just leaves a foul taste for me, maybe the cutscene cut it a little short but either I missed a trick or I misinterpreted the desires of the Amaurotines to continue as they had done as 'misguided but not destructive' when faced with the end times.
I felt that Venat's actions when portrayed as 'ruthless but absolutely correct' do no credit to the perspectives of those she sunders or in later times abandons to their destruction. Certainly we are able to see why she does what she does, but I didn't come away satisfied that the context of those actions were given fair weight to account for the fact that no one else is privy to the knowledge she has! Which for some reason unless I can't remember she does not see fit to share or use to even reason with her peers? It came across as extremely callous and bullish to me in the end, hence why I found it distasteful.
Nah I think exhaustion is about the right response to finishing Elden Ring. It goes on for way too long after it runs out of content and it has the same souls issue of basically giving you your full combat potential at low level and never really giving you new moves or options so the combat never really changes or evolves. It just gets so tiring by the end.
pac man world 2
i have never seen a collect-a-thon platformer actively try to make its players miserable who try to collect everything in the game
pac man world 1 may have have hard as balls platforming at points but it never had so many fricking points of no return, actually obnoxious level design alongside having a fricking garbage 20 minute final level like world 2
Tears of the Kingdom. Had to force myself to finish it. Got to around 108 shrines and just couldn't take the boredom any more. I only explored about 30% of the depths. Terrible area.
duke nukem forever is an above average game, and people saying they don't like it are racist, bigoted anti-white man haters.... the game is no less than a 7/10 and i've played it through at least 9 times
huh? i hate it because the clutch claw is boring to use, and i'm not good enough to have fast hunts without it
frick iceborne, it's either too boring or too hard, not fun at all
Nier Replicant.
I fricking hated having to kill the same bosses 2 more times (ending B, C/D), frick that, so annoying, just to get more moronic dialogue.
Cam here to post this. I actually didn't hate the combat, but going through the temple for the eight time killed me inside. I don't think that the plot is anything special either. I've played games with way more dramatic and impactful writing. The music was cool at least, I liked Hansel and Gretel's song.
Unironically TotK.
I wasn't even hyped for it. I was expecting some mildly improved BotW and it isnt even that. Its modded BotW. Many flaws are still there (Cooking various are worthless, Menu hell, weapons and armor range from useless to broken with little inbetween). Tech was kind of cool until you learn to make all of 3 things in auto build because everything else is TikTok clip bait or useless. Mechanically as wide as the ocean and as shallow as a puddle
Worse is the story. 0 expectations yet somehow made the game a narrative driven game but the story is asynchronous?! Major story beats can be stumbled on early, late, or flat missed. My only mistake was hoping that a sacrifice would mean anything and hold any weight. The entire story changes nothing in the world beyond "BTW you have unexplained tech floating around for fun.". Its like they didn't bother even writing in a reason most unexplained elements and just hoped the player nodded fast enough while skipping the same story explanation for the 4th time.
The game is an experiment that the game doesn't have to be well written or have depth but be fun enough within a 15 second clip on Instagram.
I couldn't make it through it, but this was me struggling through my final few hours with mass effect Andromeda until I finally couldn't take it anymore
House of Da Vinci series
I skipped the entire story and the puzzles were honestly fricking terrible.
Only reason I kept going was because I knew it was ending at 3 and I got it all for free.
I don't beat bad games so I'll just talk about Human Revolution. It wasn't horrible, it was good, but I was so glad it was over when I last replayed it.
It was really fricking long and repetitive and it felt punishing for me as completionist stealth player. Not in the sense the stealth was hard (it was dull), but in the sense that I got so sick of endlessly hacking shit in endlessly long stealth challenge corridors.
Lol and FF7R defenders always pretend like you wanted a 1:1 remake with turn-based combat. I was fine with some changes and more action gameplay, not fricking time travel meta ghosts.
Xenoblade 3. It was so goddamn boring. I mustered through to the end to see the gigachad picture in content but it really isn't worth it.
The story DLC was much better.
Kao the Kangaroo 2 felt like a chinese knock-off.
Yooka-Laylee felt like a cheap knock-off.
But the worst offender which I refunded after 90 minutes was Nope Nope Nurses. The fetish is right up my alley but compared to the anime it's boring dogshit. No "game" to be found. I've played free VNs that were more fun and with better animation. Let me make any choices at all for the love of cooming.
Doom Eternal
Having played both doom 1 and 2 and loving them I had also found myself liking doom 2016 (it's a good game but that one part with the tower just slows the game down for me). Doom eternal comes along and it just feels like a giant miss step that turns into a fall down a flight of stairs. It turns doom from a shooter that anybody can enjoy and have fun with into some stressful uber hardcore gamer game that has somewhat destroyed the doom community, filling with lardasses who remove the monicer of doom fan from anyone for not playing doom eternal on Ultra Nightmare without dying while blindfolded. Even though those same whinos never even touched an IWAD file in their life let alone the doom 1 or doom 2 wad.
Pokemon Scarlet/Violet.
The fact that """people""" are defending these pieces of fricking trash just shows that the pokemon fanbase has no standards at all.
As a matter of fact, yes. Some months ago I played Kraken Academy which was on gamepass (I don't even know why I did it) and it was not that bad but I felt like every minute I spent on it was wasted.
Anything worse than that I cannot remember because my mind helps me by forgetting truly horrible stuff.
Labyrinth of Galleria
Actually that's the entire second half of the game. I still like it and how it improved on the first game, but damn budget cuts must have hit hard.
Kind of disco elysium, since we didn't actually see that commie Black person until the end of the game, if we could have seen him around town and have him fleshed out a bit more it would have made the ending much better imo
Control. The complete lack of personality the entire game had, no matter how intentional it was, really killed me. That and the fact that the gameplay never changed after I got the throw. I kept expecting to unlock some other offensive option and it never happened.
I don't finish horrible games.
lol this. why force yourself to finish a game that isn't engaging you in the slightest?
this
if I'm not having fun with a game I just stop playing it
flippy bippy
The only game I disliked that I finished was Portal 2. Whole thing felt forced, I dunno, it never grabbed me. Felt like a chore the whole way through.
This is the reasonable answer. However, I feel a perverse sort of loyalty towards the game I bought and not finishing it would be insulting to its existence so I force myself through it.
I'm not well in the head, I know.
i never even play like a third of the games i buy
fpbp, but...
I forced myself into finishing Tales of Arise. The only horrible game I've finished
And I regret it to this day. I want my time back
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Metroid Prime.
Probably Too Human. After that, I decided that life’s too short for shit like that, and I just drop games if they become so bad.
FF7 remake. Overall I like the gameplay well enough but the final chapter is so bad I can't even describe how bad it is. It enrages me that there are people in this world who think the story of ff7r is good in any way. The only good parts of the story are ripped directly from ff7 and every piece of original writing is some of the worst shit I've ever suffered through in video games.
I could stomach the earlier parts of OG writing although I weren’t too excited about them, but that final chapter, Jesus frick it was horrible. Like fever dream bad.
This so much, thank you anon for letting me know I'm not the only one. But definitely that and the ending to ME3.
The very end seemed so unnecessary too, they could have ended it without the random Sephiroth nonsense and it would have been significantly better, just give us a Jenova battle when he shows up, then Sephiroth can fricking bail, and the gang can escape, boss gauntlet vs Shinra machines, final scene on the plains outside Midgar
I couldn't even tell what the frick was happening in that whole sequence at the end
I still wonder why they didn’t leave the first Jenovs encounter for the ending. Yeah, Motor Ball would have been too lame of an ending for a game, but they could have easily just added more buildup to Dreamweaver and made it the final boss. It’s not like the fight was *that* important to bind to the office where it happened now, I’d even argue that keeping the office scene as it was would have been better.
Agreed, Jenova was surely an easy pick for an endgame boss seeing as she's a recurring fight, and she would have been far better than motor ball, the gang could have been pursued by Shinra on the motorway, and then shit could have got real with Sephiroth flying over, killing a bunch of mobs and then chasing us down like an angry magpie
It's not like they made bad decisions all throughout either, some of the stuff they added in was honestly pretty good, that ending was just bafflingly bad, I wonder if it was quite a late decision to include
I liked fighting the weird cloud, barrett, and tifa bosses, they could have been a great addition later in the series, maybe during clouds internal strife sick man emo time instead
Absolute crack pipe game dev moment
tbqtbh I was being hyperbolic in my first post. I actually did like a lot of the fleshed out characterization they did. Tifa is already a better character in ff7r than she was in ff7. It's baffling because the adapted and expanded ff7 worldbuilding is great but the compilation and OG stuff is fricking terrible. Did they delegate that shit to interns or outsource it or something? The craziest thing is that Nomura of all people has gone on record saying he was the tard wrangler on this project and the story would've been even worse without him.
>N-N-NO IT'S LUDOKINO BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT AND THAT ALONE MAKES IT GOOD, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE GOOD TO BE GOOD
>N-N-NOBODY EVER WANTED A FAITHFUL REMAKE AAAANYWAY IN THE NEARLY 25 YEARS THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR ONE
>Y-Y-YOU JUST GOT FILTERED
The fact that anyone can defend this game just shows we're in the bad timeline.
VII is my favourite game and I refused to go near Remake because of its moronation.
on point. I only kept playing because I liked the combat.
>It enrages me that there are people in this world who think the story of ff7r is good in any way.
Not only that but some people pretend FF7R part 2 will return to being a remake. Why?
Halo 4
Just what the frick was that, Halo 5 too
Same. I never played 5 or Infinite and refuse to acknowledge 343's shit as canon. Chief and Cortana are still adrift in the Forward Unto Dawn.
The Covenant in Halo 3 was the peak of the original trilogy.
bulletstorm
Majoras Mask
Either bait or you're fricking moronic.
RiME
INSIDE
GRIS
Utter dogshit.
Why the frick do you keep playing pretentious walking sims if you hate them and why do you finish them?
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
moronic enemies like the bikes and unstaggerable zombies
Level design takes a nosedive after the city
Rachel parts are a waste of time
Every weapon has pretty much the same moveset
Dumb gimmick bossfights in the second half
I kept playing because the combat itself is great, it's just that everything around it is awful so I hoped it would get better at some point but it just got worse.
Kain And Lynch 2
Final Fantasy 7 remake
Borderlands 3
This. Almost everything in that game is at least good but the writing is so fricking bad it poisons the entire experience.
Final Fantasy XV left me kind of gobsmacked when I finished it. First off you play a slooow paced open world game that then suddenly turns into an on-rails experience that just TURBO SPEEDS through the rest of the plot dizzyingly fast.
The actual ending was fine, but the sheer insanity of the pacing of the game, frick.
You could feel the exact moment they ran out of money.
I felt like this in 2017 when I first played it, then I replayed it at the beginning of last year while fully knowing how shit the combat was and how rushed it got after a certain point in the game. And it was actually nice, even if only for the whole on an adventure with the bros feelings. The DLCs were bad-ok, except for Ignis' which was really nice and showed how much of a true friend he was and elevated the whole experience from a 5.5 to a 7 something.
Halo Infinite
I would say Gotham Knights but I couldn't beat it
seconding halo infinite. every single reviewer that mentioned its campaign as a positive is basically admitting they didn't play more than an hour of it because the entire rest is just that same first hour over and over.
I feel like most bad games just go to the bottom of the backlog never to return. Unless they're disappointing sequels that I felt obligated to finish because I liked the original.
Mass Effect 3, I haven't been the same ever since.
I liked a lot of things about Mass Effect 3 in retrospect but the fallout over the ending did lasting damage to my ability to get too excited over new things.
Dead space
Chrono trigger
Bland as frick and easy as shit gameplay and characters
Atleast it had like 4 good songs
Frick the dino section tho fricking slog
Super mario 64. How can anyone praise that putrid garbage? Awful gameplay, truly horrific environment design, and a patronising tone throughout.
I didn't even finish it, it was dead rising 4 even when it was on Sale.
Elden Ring
I went into it hoping for an 8 out of 10, and the game rattled its way down to a 4 by the time I finished it.
>Miyazaki's SHATTERED Masterpiece
>Perfectly (im)balanced
>A Broken Masterpiece
Frick this shit.
Miyazaki's MEAGERpiece is more like it
>i finished this 100 hour game because its totally shit and i totally hate it haha!! d-do i fit in yet bros?
rope
Liking shit games isn't cool, anon
>haha yeah man i played this game for 50 hours and played it earlier this month and beat it but i totally hate it im so cool right anons
obnoxious gay
anon you don't understand how to properly form your own opinions.
I wouldn't shit on it that hard, but there are some games where you enter into a fugue state and just want to finish it out of a weird sense of obligation, even though you've not been enjoying it for ages. It's like continuing to watch a tv series that already jumped the shark because you were 4 seasons in already.
Elden Ring absolutely suffers from that. They could have cut a quarter of play time out of it and vastly improved the game.
>not playing every game to completion regardless of quality
casual
in order to properly judge a piece of media you need to finished it, so i don't understand why you think only people that enjoy a piece of media finished it?
I couldn't bring myself to finish ER. I didnt even dislike it, its just too long
i cant even bring myself to finish the game. Just got into nokron, but its literally just fricking siofra wells again lol.
Fire Emblem Revelations, by the end I finished it just to say that I did, nothing fun about it.
corpse party blood drive
so bad it killed the franchise for 10 years
What was so bad about it? I was about to get into the series, starting with the old original version.
not that anon but every game after the first one is just a stupid massive retcon to the previous title to the point the writers just gave up on making sense of the story they wrote and left it incomplete to this day.
the plot is nonsense and the characters make the worst decisions possible, along with the new characters looking completely out of place next to the old ones
it's a shame to, because there are a couple scenes in the game with the old characters that are legitimately good
it's a real shame because where the first two games shined, the characters, descriptions, and audio were a complete step down and the game feels like a low budget afterthought with new writers
if you still want to get into the series i recommend corpse-party rebuilt, zero, the 2021 version, and maybe book of shadows if you want more of the less utilized characters from the 2021 version
just don't play the secret chapter of bos and any of the other sequels if you don't want a bad taste in your mouth afterwards
Darkest Dungeon 2. I just don't like it. It's too hard and dying constantly to barely unlock one or two more things so your next run you can go slightly farther but still die is tarded as frick.
Can't remember. If the game sucks, I usually just drop it
Bonelab.
It totally, irredeemably killed VR for me.
Coming from Boneworks I have no idea how they could have fricked it up so bad.
It honestly felt like I was scammed and I pirated it.
> imagine not dropping bad games on the spot after at most 1-2 hours
You people deserve the suffering
Yeah but what if it gets better 4-5 hours in?
Because presentation is important. If I have to waste 4 hours of my time until the game gets good because incompetent developers can't make it enjoyable from the start then it's not worth it
yeah but what does that have to do with "the game started out pretty good, but then it got bad"? its impossible to drop a game in 1-2 hours for being a bad game, if its only a bad game later on.
what if the game was good in the first few hours but got bad near the end? Yeah I could drop the game, but if its easy enough to still play on regardless then I might as well slug threw it.
Sometimes you get roped into being player 2 and they want to keep pushing through that turd and you just get forced along because they won't give up on it.
On a related note, frick you Resident Evil 6.
Fear 3.
AI somnium files nirvana initiative. Being a VN from a writer notorious for late-game twists, I was really hoping it would do something to redeem itself by the end. It did not. All the new characters were shit, some of the returning characters were made worse, the big twist was moronic, and the writing just generally felt like a massive downgrade.
xenoblade 3 and fire emblem engage
Roots
That's how I felt after finishing Horace. What a goddamn waste of time.
No More Heroes 3
i replayed halo 4 for the first time since release recently to see if it was as shit as i remember
it was
ToTK but I didn't even finish it
Shin Megami Tensei V
Wanted Dead
TotK, it was gonna be BotW but I literally felt like beating it would be pointless. But for TotK I pirated it the day it leaked and wanted to beat it before tendies got it. When I got to the credits I realized how much of a waste of time that glorified DLC was.
Sonic frontiers, I don't understand why people like it when it has all the problems 06 and forces has
FFXVI demo
Fallout 4 tho i didn't finish it, I got this weird feeling checked my play timeregrettably 100 hours on the dot felt utterly disgusted with how little fun i had and never touched it again
devil may cry 2
unironically though it started off ok but kind of boring but the more played it the more i realized i was making a horrible mistake.
The Ghostbusters videogame (the one with the main cast of the movies). Good story, shit gameplay.
Solasta. Was playing coop with friend, story is "uuuuh get the 6 macguffin to saaaave the world", 85% enemy diversity is spider or fire thing. the only funni was the 4 dwarfs moment. the game was only fun for the first macguffin everything is boring and shitty writing afterward...
Jak II, didn't finish it and never will. Frick that game and its absolute dogshit design and cheap difficulty. Precursor Legacy is one of the best platformers ever made, and I will forever be stunned by how hard they dropped the ball on the sequel.
I've seen zero discussion of this game on V thus far so I may be the only one to have played it, but this Kermit montage was my reaction to finishing Death's Gambit: Afterlife
Death's Gambit was a pretty damn good game, simple but with lots of interesting ideas and great visuals as well as music, the one thing which was absolutely stellar about the game was its tone. The tone above everything, it was very somber, melancholic, and it had lots of kino moments. Death's Gambit Afterlife is a "remake" of the original game, with a lot more mechanics, areas, bosses, just more content in general.
HOWEVER; Afterlife came out as a free update, replacing the original and adding a lot of content, and without exaggeration, it is A FRICKING SHITPOST, they turned a grim dark miserable story about a guy who is looking for his probably dead mother in a destroyed kingdom into a fricking joke, you have squirrel people in little kinght hats riding on frogs fighting you with sticks, and its not a one-of joke either, they are all over the game. There's so much silly goofy goober stuff, like a giant fat rabbit underground who you have to feed carrots to, it completely ruins the feel the original game had. Seriously, this "expansion" is like drawing a rage comic jackie chan on your grandmas grave with a sharpie, I have no fricking idea what the people making the game were thinking.
And of course, best of all, the original, the good version of the game is now only available if you frick around in the Steam settings, meaning that anyone who buys Death's Gambit (an otherwise pretty great game) will now be greeted with this redditor's wet dream of quirky chungus moments interlaced with the extremely mismatched grim and miserable story and setting of the game.
Starbound, and the worst is that I had to mod the frick out of it just for the game to be bearable and even then it was a dreadful experience.
The worst part is if you ever played starbound in beta before all of the content was cut. It started as a nice game with potential and gradually got worse and worse.
Devs got scared to actually take it seriously. Misplaced and repetitive gags at the worst possible times.
What am I looking at?
AI: The Somnium Files
Was it your first Uchikochi game or something? They're all like that, hell that game is probably the least offensive in that regard.
I've played 999 and read Ever17 + Remember11.
I liked all 3, Remember11 not so much.
AI: Somnium wasn't bad, but it felt like they were too afraid to go deeper.
I had trouble liking the characters too, I think Date and the Yakuza boss were the ones I liked most.
The first AI game is fine, the second I think tries to go deeper and is absolutely abhorrent for it. Uchikochi does not do *deep* well at all, his attempts are all shallow because he's unironically dumb as shit trying to tackle subjects he cannot quite wrap his head around.
Persona 3: The Answer
Tales of Arise
Dragon Age Inquisition
Endwalker
The former I wanted to rewind time, take back the hours I stuck into it and the cash I paid for it. Hated the writing so much and the retconning of established cultures and ideology from the first two.
The latter outright killed my desire to continue playing XIV, Heavensward was Peak, Shadowbringers excellent, and all the ambiguity Shadowbringers posited was utterly wasted for Muh Time frickery also everyone unquestioningly loves and agrees that Angel Dommy Mommy did nothing wrong at all ever.
I can accept writing is very subjective but if I go through what I perceive to be flagrant inconsistency for cheap bait and pandering, I cannot stand it. Also both titles made worse by the inability of either fandoms to accept that some people couldn't stand how the writers handled the plots and world.
>Being a literal moron trance
My god will you mindbroken morons just shut the frick up already.
A what?
Look I was all for EW in the first act when we see the effects of the fall of Garlemald, right up to the part where that Garlean Commander tops himself was genuinely great, loved the tone and what I thought we were in for.
Going to Elpis? Okay I preferred leaving it mired in mystery and through the recollections of other characters, but once we brought up the Moon Bunnies, end of the World but Pajeet Elephants need us to carry crates, time frickery and characters that previously expressed heavy doubts about the roles of Hydaelyn and Zodiak suddenly falling into perfect party line?
Nah not for me, I felt it flew off the rails and suffered from an appalling lack of writing direction, like the team realised that ShB brought up too many points of contention for how they wanted fans to perceive certain events, so time travel and 'I HAD A CONVOLUTED PLAN ALL ALONG' would do as a quick plaster over.
HOWEVER, Zenos was a small light in the tunnel for me, coming in like he did at the end, shutting everyone up and kicking arse just to get his final duel was incredibly kino. Not enough to redeem what I felt was a big waste of time otherwise, but it was a good stab.
>A what
Someone who is somehow committed to the idea that Venat was, at any point, a "bad guy". It's been a widely ridiculed and utterly moronic fan theory since ARR because it heavily relied on ESL-tier reading comprehension and outright ignoring half the plot. Venat was never going to be evil, and was never going to be a morally dubious character. They go to pretty big lengths to ram that down your throat in every expansion.
>but once we brought up the Moon Bunnies
I guess that's just going to be jarring for people who never played FFIV so I'll leave that to subjective tastes. It was goofy, but I don't agree that it was a major issue, and the idea of lighthearted fun in a time where everything is going shit actually works really well with the overall narrative themes and thrust.
>time frickery and characters that previously expressed heavy doubts about the roles of Hydaelyn and Zodiak suddenly falling into perfect party line?
Time frickery has been a major part of the story for a while now, but this wasn't even really time frickery, this was specifically about you learning the nature of the threat and nothing else, there is no "time frickery" so much as there is a 'walk through a dream' like sequence. You have to have completely misunderstood the story and how time travel works in the setting if you think there was any time frickery involved. And as for people having doubts about Hydaelyn that was an expression of their natural skepticism, they never once found or brought up legitimate issues other than "we shouldn't be so trusting of their good nature", so when they had been proven wrong they accepted that proof, what else did you want them to do? Be stubbornly moronic?
>...They go to pretty big lengths to ram that down your throat in every expansion.
Ah, I felt a little differently with how events surrounding the Warriors of Darkness and the destruction of Amaurot were depicted, I love ambiguity and the notion that even the designated 'all loving' deity figures are capable of heinous acts for supposedly benevolent reasons. Granted that may be approaching it with a completely different expectation to the standard saccharine character traits employed in JRPGs, appreciate the explanation.
>...actually works really well with the overall narrative themes and thrust.
Yeah I'm aware almost everything in XIV is full of easter eggs, nods and trivia for longtime fans, I'm not one of them. I grew up on different games with very different tones where RPGs were concerned, I suppose I viewed 'kitschy/cutesy' antics as ill-placed attempts at levity that bordered on the absurd. By my own admission I struggle to take some elements of the story seriously on aesthetics alone, I just cannot wrap my head around anything important being attributed to moon rabbits beyond light relief. But as you indicate that's on the player.
>...what else did you want them to do? Be stubbornly moronic?
Oh no nothing so drastic, I think I could have been mollified if any of it had been taken to task or if there was an option to even press Venat on the matter itself. I'll admit the reactionary part of me had me ranting to a mate when I saw the cutscenes at the end 'how dare you try and save yourselves, my plan is better cause I have a guy 12,000 years away ready to sort it out according to my time script, take sundering to the face skreeee'
Once again it probably is a matter of taste and how I wanted to see the points of ShB addressed, I wasn't satisfied by a binary 'all this was done because Venat had it all in hand, there is no deviating from this viewpoint that she was absolutely correct.'
Moral ambiguity is fine, and even very common in FFXIV, but this becomes just mediocre when that's all you have. Having more saccharine, straightforward characters balances this out, and that's what Hydaelyn/Venat was doing from the start.
>how dare you try and save yourselves, my plan is better
Yea that's a bit of a weird take since she knew for certain their plan was doomed. This wasn't a case of "lets wait and see how it works" even being an option. This was "we either blow ourselves up in an Alexander-style paradox blast or we continue the timeline". As Elidibus tells you at the very start of the arch; "You cannot change the past". This isn't a warning, it's a statement of fact. People tend to misunderstand due to Shadowbringers but that game did something that is basically impossible for the setting by splitting timelines, something nothing else had been capable of doing in the entire history of the universe.
This wasn't a moral story about Venat's choices (she never actually had any, that was the point here) it was a tragedy about her unfortunate fate.
I could probably provide a more eloquent and in-depth response as to what I personally found jarring about the tone. But I'm on a couple of strong beers and can feel myself slipping lol. I think it's just a matter of taste and acknowledging there are tonal and character decisions that I don't really care for.
> "You cannot change the past"
See this I'll say did throw me off, I took that exactly as you say, an iron-cast statement of fact, with the explicitly clear warning that the party could not and should not attempt to interfere in Elpis. Five minutes later we do exactly that, hence the impression of 'Oh here we go it's fantasy Back to the Future' time.
I won't contend that Venat's story depicts her as being caught in a catch 22, I suppose it's what I perceive as a 'willing nodding dog' response from all the other characters that the sundering and abandonment of other worlds is beyond any question because Venat is correct.
It just leaves a foul taste for me, maybe the cutscene cut it a little short but either I missed a trick or I misinterpreted the desires of the Amaurotines to continue as they had done as 'misguided but not destructive' when faced with the end times.
I felt that Venat's actions when portrayed as 'ruthless but absolutely correct' do no credit to the perspectives of those she sunders or in later times abandons to their destruction. Certainly we are able to see why she does what she does, but I didn't come away satisfied that the context of those actions were given fair weight to account for the fact that no one else is privy to the knowledge she has! Which for some reason unless I can't remember she does not see fit to share or use to even reason with her peers? It came across as extremely callous and bullish to me in the end, hence why I found it distasteful.
lol mad emetcuck. Keep on trancing
Yes yes clap clap well done, great contribution mindless gayfrick, why don't you provide your own take or answer the OP
Bandwagon c**ts like you are why Ganker is dead
I did answer OP then laughed at your butthurt.
The Outer Worlds. I've owned it since 2019 and finally finished it earlier this year. It's not even a long game it's just so boring and soulless
elden ring
not even shitposting
Nah I think exhaustion is about the right response to finishing Elden Ring. It goes on for way too long after it runs out of content and it has the same souls issue of basically giving you your full combat potential at low level and never really giving you new moves or options so the combat never really changes or evolves. It just gets so tiring by the end.
A toss-up between No More Heroes 3 and Bayonetta 3.
No More Heroes 2 and Cyberpunk.
Both of which were completely underwhelming. NMH1 >>>> NMH2
pac man world 2
i have never seen a collect-a-thon platformer actively try to make its players miserable who try to collect everything in the game
pac man world 1 may have have hard as balls platforming at points but it never had so many fricking points of no return, actually obnoxious level design alongside having a fricking garbage 20 minute final level like world 2
Red faction (ps2)
this photo is also inaccurate
more accurate to Ganker image
divinity original sin 1 is fricking terrible
I agree sin fricking sucks I can't believe people on /vr/ recommend it
Tears of the Kingdom. Had to force myself to finish it. Got to around 108 shrines and just couldn't take the boredom any more. I only explored about 30% of the depths. Terrible area.
duke nukem forever is an above average game, and people saying they don't like it are racist, bigoted anti-white man haters.... the game is no less than a 7/10 and i've played it through at least 9 times
MHW Iceborne
everything about it sucks
seethe tendie
huh? i hate it because the clutch claw is boring to use, and i'm not good enough to have fast hunts without it
frick iceborne, it's either too boring or too hard, not fun at all
Bloodborne
I don't get the FROMshit hype
Alien Colonial Marines.
I liked the multiplayer
Nier Replicant.
I fricking hated having to kill the same bosses 2 more times (ending B, C/D), frick that, so annoying, just to get more moronic dialogue.
Cam here to post this. I actually didn't hate the combat, but going through the temple for the eight time killed me inside. I don't think that the plot is anything special either. I've played games with way more dramatic and impactful writing. The music was cool at least, I liked Hansel and Gretel's song.
what's with these attempts at talking about feelings when playing video games?
FIRE YOUR FEMALE MARKET RESEARCHERS!
Unironically TotK.
I wasn't even hyped for it. I was expecting some mildly improved BotW and it isnt even that. Its modded BotW. Many flaws are still there (Cooking various are worthless, Menu hell, weapons and armor range from useless to broken with little inbetween). Tech was kind of cool until you learn to make all of 3 things in auto build because everything else is TikTok clip bait or useless. Mechanically as wide as the ocean and as shallow as a puddle
Worse is the story. 0 expectations yet somehow made the game a narrative driven game but the story is asynchronous?! Major story beats can be stumbled on early, late, or flat missed. My only mistake was hoping that a sacrifice would mean anything and hold any weight. The entire story changes nothing in the world beyond "BTW you have unexplained tech floating around for fun.". Its like they didn't bother even writing in a reason most unexplained elements and just hoped the player nodded fast enough while skipping the same story explanation for the 4th time.
The game is an experiment that the game doesn't have to be well written or have depth but be fun enough within a 15 second clip on Instagram.
rdr2
In the past few years, Cyberpunk 2077 and Control.
I couldn't make it through it, but this was me struggling through my final few hours with mass effect Andromeda until I finally couldn't take it anymore
I haven’t played a game less than 5/10 in a while, usually my kusoge filter is pretty good
Dragon Age 2 was the only horrible game i finished.
Extreme Paintbrawl
House of Da Vinci series
I skipped the entire story and the puzzles were honestly fricking terrible.
Only reason I kept going was because I knew it was ending at 3 and I got it all for free.
I don't beat bad games so I'll just talk about Human Revolution. It wasn't horrible, it was good, but I was so glad it was over when I last replayed it.
It was really fricking long and repetitive and it felt punishing for me as completionist stealth player. Not in the sense the stealth was hard (it was dull), but in the sense that I got so sick of endlessly hacking shit in endlessly long stealth challenge corridors.
Lol and FF7R defenders always pretend like you wanted a 1:1 remake with turn-based combat. I was fine with some changes and more action gameplay, not fricking time travel meta ghosts.
Xenoblade 3. It was so goddamn boring. I mustered through to the end to see the gigachad picture in content but it really isn't worth it.
The story DLC was much better.
sonic forces
Kao the Kangaroo 2 felt like a chinese knock-off.
Yooka-Laylee felt like a cheap knock-off.
But the worst offender which I refunded after 90 minutes was Nope Nope Nurses. The fetish is right up my alley but compared to the anime it's boring dogshit. No "game" to be found. I've played free VNs that were more fun and with better animation. Let me make any choices at all for the love of cooming.
Doom Eternal
Having played both doom 1 and 2 and loving them I had also found myself liking doom 2016 (it's a good game but that one part with the tower just slows the game down for me). Doom eternal comes along and it just feels like a giant miss step that turns into a fall down a flight of stairs. It turns doom from a shooter that anybody can enjoy and have fun with into some stressful uber hardcore gamer game that has somewhat destroyed the doom community, filling with lardasses who remove the monicer of doom fan from anyone for not playing doom eternal on Ultra Nightmare without dying while blindfolded. Even though those same whinos never even touched an IWAD file in their life let alone the doom 1 or doom 2 wad.
Duke Nukem Forever
I finished it for the meme. I have mixed feeling about wasting those hours but I would have shitposted here instead anyway.
Pokemon Scarlet/Violet.
The fact that """people""" are defending these pieces of fricking trash just shows that the pokemon fanbase has no standards at all.
The AoM Chinese DLC. I finished it so you don't have to.
Do you homosexuals play anything that isn't on gamefaqs top 10?
As a matter of fact, yes. Some months ago I played Kraken Academy which was on gamepass (I don't even know why I did it) and it was not that bad but I felt like every minute I spent on it was wasted.
Anything worse than that I cannot remember because my mind helps me by forgetting truly horrible stuff.
The mistake is you think Ganker plays games
>game is generally pretty good
>has a really bad/rushed part that can ruin the entire experience
what game was it
Labyrinth of Galleria
Actually that's the entire second half of the game. I still like it and how it improved on the first game, but damn budget cuts must have hit hard.
Kind of disco elysium, since we didn't actually see that commie Black person until the end of the game, if we could have seen him around town and have him fleshed out a bit more it would have made the ending much better imo
Why the hell is that Black person samegayging?
Nioh 2
I just kept hopeing that "maybe the next boss will be interesting".
OMORI.
I still don't know if the ending and black space made up for the 15 hour slogfest
Control. The complete lack of personality the entire game had, no matter how intentional it was, really killed me. That and the fact that the gameplay never changed after I got the throw. I kept expecting to unlock some other offensive option and it never happened.
Star Ocean 6
Epic Mickey
I finished Skyward Sword just last week. It actually started out okay but then got repetitive and more and more of a slog.
Fez. Really boring platforming and insulting puzzles. I kept thinking it would get better, but it didn't.
I only play good games
Megaman X7 is the only game to make me laugh out of sheer stress and anxiety from how fricking awful the game I was playing was.
thumbnail looks like a fish
Megaman X6 fukken hell