The combat was shit. Having all your characters constantly switch classes robbed everyone of their unique identities, and made leveling a chore.
The story also wasn't engaging, and took even longer to get started than Xenoblade 2. The character designs are bland as hell, and there's barely any music playing in many areas.
>The story also wasn't engaging,
The story was the most interesting part. A world that only knows war, but doesn't know WHY it's warring. A population that only ages to a brief point, before they cease to exist and never experience old age. A group of enemies that become allies and discover a truth of the world they never knew. That moment where the main party witnesses a newborn baby for the first time was incredible. The prison scene with Mio's monolog to her friends was absolutely gut wrenching. And despite how you may feel about the rest of the game after that point, it was still fun seeing the character interactions.
>The people don’t know the natural order of life! It’s so deep! >There are still other living things everywhere, and science hasn’t been quashed. >literally requires ALL the Nopon to be quiet and do nothing
This story sucks
>A world that only knows war, but doesn't know WHY it's warring. A population that only ages to a brief point, before they cease to exist and never experience old age. A group of enemies that become allies and discover a truth of the world they never knew
You're describing the game's setting, it's unique for sure but the way the story develops is the problem. XC3 looks good on paper but playing it through the eyes of a homogenized party with extremely similar settings and motivations makes it ill suited for such a long game.
>You're describing the game's setting
I described the game's plot and at least two different scenes, as well as character interactions. You didn't like them, but they were entertaining.
The first half is describing the game's setting though >and at least two different scenes, as well as character interactions. You didn't like them, but they were entertaining.
I did like some scenes but most were superfluous, XC3 has some interesting ideas and I would've enjoyed it as a 10 to 20 hour long game.
Conceptually yes, it does sound very compelling. But in practice, they just gloss over the finer details and the overall execution is just boring and confusing.
>The combat was shit. Having all your characters constantly switch classes robbed everyone of their unique identities, and made leveling a chore.
Absolutely disagree. If XB3 worked like the past games you would just never use Taion or Lanz because their classes are shit, the customizability means everyone can be useful and steadily unlocking new classes and abilities via quests is so much better than 2's gacha system.
The characters still have unique quirks via their base stats, ouroboros forms, and Noah and Mio's special abilities. I think they could've done more there but it's still a much better outcome than just having characters you never use like Sharla or 80% of the blades.
You obviously never play Bravely Default 2. That game went stale as soon as you realize everyone can be anything, and there's zero practical reason to invest in favorite character.
Tell me the difference between Squall and Zell, aside from the deathblows.
Or Firion or Guy, aside from minor stat differences which can easily be patched
Or Locke and Cyan, aside from thieving and bushido, both of which suck
et cetera
3 months ago
Anonymous
Zell can break damage limit much easier and is the best damage dealer. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Pretty sure he specified the exact thing you described. Maybe you should learn to read you stupid fricking homosexual.
The problem with BD2 is that the jobs sucked, the enemies were designed with a dumb counter system that punished you for experimenting, and turn order changed from full turn based to semi-atb like FFX but without the turn order indicator. Job systems do work, you just have to design everything around the job system. In FFV every job level gave you something, whether that was a new ability (that any job could use) or a new passive, while that’s not the case for XB3.
I would have enjoyed the job system if there was more to gain from leveling a class. Currently, a class has all of its skills unlocked right from the start, and the only thing leveling it up does is strengthen the skills while using that class, or allow you to inherit very specific arts or skills from the class. But whoops, your inherit slots are locked behind leveling up and a majority of the things you can inherit are trash so what you put there doesn’t matter until endgame. If they unlocked new arts and skills for the class as it leveled up and let you inherit any art or skill instead of the 2 they chose, that would have allowed for a lot more customization and flexibility from the player. Also the limit on directional or field effect arts without wasting a skill slot is complete trash, I earned the art so I should be able to equip it.
Says it's not a real Xeno game because it originally didn't have Xeno in the title
3 months ago
Anonymous
He hates that he's a secondary to the series as he played 2 first and not 1 or X, all switchtards have the same complex and do the same shit with BotW with Zelda and Odyssey with Mario.
This. XB3 is now being exposed as the sham Gankerv/e always knew it as. The series is now dead in the water and XB4 is confirmed never happening now that even Nintendo is ashamed of it.
>Set 12 years after XC1 and 2 >Yet most of the traits of the other races are bred out in one generation >They create god machines with no industrial base across TWO UNIVERSES in the same timespan >Nia is a queen for some reason. Despite showing no royal background...AT ALL. And no, eating a random noble's kid doesnt count. >The entire game takes place in a VR chat room >Two universes decide to be a bunch of buttholes and make other people take part in a forever war because...uhhhhh
XC3 feels like it was forced to be the sequel nobody asked, monolith should have made it a stand alone title instead.
Or they could have done the crossover that people fricking wanted from the start. It felt like the Fog King was supposed to be the big set up villain for XC3 BUT IT WAS FRICKING NOOOOOOTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG! A whole DLC dedicated to it, then it runs off, alluding to something. Oh wait! ITS JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE PALLET SWAPPED MONSTERS IN THE VRCHAT ROOM THAT WAS XC3!
There is no positive aspects to XB3. Absolutely none.
no, he's a footgay and an autist who got called out by some girl for trying to get her to do footstuff (while also having a gf at the time)
enel is the one getting called a pedo, though I havent seen any of the actual evidence
He was spamming fetish roleplay with his friend's wife and that's about all the concrete """evidence""" against him, kinda a ProJared situation where it's big drama for nothing
There's this one, the Xenoblade 2 "I'm new to the game does it get better" to prompt them to reply en masse about how "kino" the end is, and the Xeno 1 "this is boring the combat sucks it's too shounen" one to prompt them to shit on 1 in the usual way and say 2 is better.
They rotate them when one hasn't been up for an hour.
Removed all the sex appeal. Literally the only reason anyone cared about Xeno 2 was the GIANT breasts and ass, g string designs, the e-girls, the horny blades, the rabbit titted b***h that mindbroke feminists.
3 has..... women running around in Adidas and Nike tracksuits? Uhh.... Okay. It's literally already forgotten.
This is like, half right lol. Xenoblade 2's designs were criticized so much that it's obv Monolith played the designs safe for 3. They just played it way too safe, everyone in the main party looks generic, and all the side characters wear the same four outfits.
When XC1 fans b***hed and whined about XC2's sexualized designs, I didn't care and enjoyed it just the same. When XC2 fans b***hed about XC3 designs being "woke" I didn't care either. I'll support whatever direction Takahashi chooses to take, if you actually care one way or the other you're a secondary.
If being a "secondary" means I judge each game as it comes and am not a cult member that consooms product by someone who I'm a fan of like you then yeah, I'm a secondary.
Only caring about muh booba and coom and ignoring everything other quality of XC2 does indeed make you a secondary, yes. I would argue that other aspects of XC3 being toned down and made more sombre like the music has a much bigger impact than the designs, but you shitposters didn't actually play the game so of course you wouldn't know that
You can just skip all that and say "I CONSOOOOOOMMMMMM"
Maybe you'd have a point if you actually presented a genuine critique of XC3 (and there are plenty) instead of just sperging out about the designs. I bet you gays didn't even play XC2 and only jerked off to the Pyra/Mythra doujins
There are plenty of criticism but design getting puritanization stands out the most. Visual direction is big part of video game and it's pointless trying to pretend XB3 didn't try to tone down all the sexy art.
The entire game has the more bombastic elements of the previous games toned down including the OST to match with the game's tone. It's a deliberate artistic decision and not "pozz". FE Engage had a much more woke localization with half the text sanitized by Treehouse and even that had e-girl fanservice intact. You are moronic.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Fanservice getting toned down in Engage isn't what we call intact, dumbo. Also just because one game is less censored doesn't mean another getting censored is ok. Did you skip your logic class in secondary school?
3 months ago
Anonymous
How was it toned down, e-girl Anna fanservice is arguably way more offensive to normalgays than anything in XC2. It shows that Nintendo's localization team doesn't have the power to remove all fanservice and that the dev team does have control
3 months ago
Anonymous
A bit of tummy is fanservice now? Your bar is purposely set low, I see.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>uhh ACTUALLY that doesn't count and it's still pozzed because it isn't enough
3 months ago
Anonymous
>BE GRATEFUL FOR OUR CENSORSHIP GOY
Cool hasbara, yiddo.
>Removed all the sex appeal.
I wish. If they got rid of the disgusting sex fanservice, that would've been a positive in the game's favor. Games need to stop selling on shallow gimmicks like muh anime breasts and muh cinematic storytelling.
>humans are disgusting and flawed beings who value anime breasts over good gameplay >this means we should pander to them, instead of fixing this broken mindset
Porn has more longevity than story discussion. Once the story discussion is exhausted, that's it. It's over. But people will ALWAYS want to frick/jerk off.
The narrative was absolutely all over the place and writing was mediocre at best. The DLC did very little to redeem it, despite the title. So many things just happen without any understanding why or how. Noah just pulls out the sword of end when he needs it? OK, but what is it? Why is it there? Noah and mio are clones of the originals, but why are they there and don't follow the rules of the universe?so and so forth, I need to watch all the cutscenes again tbh but i was so turned off by it all lasy year that i havent felt the need to.
>each rare blade was designed by a different artist, leading to some heavy artstyle clashing with the main cast >each rare blade has its own quest, so you miss out on content if you don't get all of them >a limited consumable item is required to reassign a blade to a different driver >field skill bullshit makes the experience even more miserable
XB3 is a godsend in comparison
>heavy artstyle clashing with the main cast
Big overstatement, especially when the main cast clash with Torna and npcs in the first place
3 months ago
Anonymous
I may not like Saitom's artstyle much, but at least XB3 is consistent
3 months ago
Anonymous
More like neutered Saitom, the dude's design were always very attractive so it's obvious the devs told him to tone the sexyness down for XC3.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Stop being a b***h
3 months ago
Anonymous
>neutered
are we going to pretend that shit isn't story relevant, nobody knew what sex even was let alone sex appeal. They were all test tube babies till they were 10 and they live like drones for another ten years until the cycle resets and they do it again.
3 months ago
Anonymous
What a waste of potential it was. Even the swimsuit dlc looks like something a Karen would buy for her daughter's first day in the pool.
>neutered
are we going to pretend that shit isn't story relevant, nobody knew what sex even was let alone sex appeal. They were all test tube babies till they were 10 and they live like drones for another ten years until the cycle resets and they do it again.
Real world logics is a terrible tool for defending desexualization in the realm of fiction.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Real world logics is a terrible tool for defending desexualization in the realm of fiction.
you would have a point if it wasn't one of the biggest parts of the narrative in the game
3 months ago
Anonymous
>More like neutered Saitom
People will just say shit
What a waste of potential it was. Even the swimsuit dlc looks like something a Karen would buy for her daughter's first day in the pool.
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Real world logics is a terrible tool for defending desexualization in the realm of fiction.
>desexualization in the realm of fiction.
In-universe logic makes sense tho.
In XB2, only Blades were particularly sexual (aside from the dancers in Bana's office), while normal humans mostly dressed in a reasonable fashion.
In XB3, the soldiers' sexuality is literally being depressed through the flame clocks
Moreover, It's not like Saitom's standard designs are like Pyra and Mythra all the time. You'd have to believe he designs the characters in a vacuum, without any context or knowledge for what kinds of people they'd be or what their situation to think that his default is always to go otaku-coomer until someone tells him otherwise. We know that just within XB2, the designs for humans are more grounded than those for Blades. Morag was designed with a full military outfit whereas Pandoria has a light bulb in her shoulder
3 months ago
Anonymous
>cherrypicks image >female character is still very feminine and attractive
Other than making XC3 safer and less problematic I'm guessing the class swap system contributed to designs becoming more unisex. Regardless, boring looking characters make games feel less unique.
3 months ago
Anonymous
XB3 isn't trying to be safer or less problematic though, it's just a tonally different story. It would be a little strange if the artist you hire for an RPG series has so little range that they can't make designs to fit the personalities of characters or the context of the story
Moreover, I wasn't trying to suggest that Saitom doesn't make feminine character normally, my point is just that he has range.
Eunie, Sena and Mio are still distinctly feminine, as are Alexandria and Monica. I'd argue most of the female heroes or party members in XB3 are more overtly feminine in design than, say, Morag is
It would be sort of concerning for Xenoblade as a series if their main character artist lacked the range to accommodate a variety of character types or story tones
3 months ago
Anonymous
>third entry in cult classic RPG series is so universally hated that it kills the series forever
Tale as old as time...
Just shut up Enel. Eric won and there's nothing you can do about it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
With that logic XC2 wouldn't have any serious scenes involving Pyra or Mythra, most people don't care about fanservice to the point where they feel it detracts from the story. >It would be sort of concerning for Xenoblade as a series if their main character artist lacked the range to accommodate a variety of character types or story tones
Funny of you to say this when XC3's designs have zero range.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He did a decent job with 3, but I miss the variety and flair of 2 (hit and miss as it was)
boring plot and characters, bad class system. having a full party at the beginning of the game is an idea that sounds like a neat trick at first, but the way they executed it just removes a pacing element from the game to its detriment. interminable slog
>Previous thread by this moron was widely ignored apart from a few people calling him out on his homosexualry >Makes the same one as soon as it 404s >This time fellow homosexuals come in to agree
I'm not the kind to blame it on americans waking up but honestly what gives
It was pretty good
Some things the other games did better (namely some VFX/SFX and design decisions in 2) but XB3 is still my favorite since it has probably the best side content of any Xenoblade game, the strongest character writing and an actual class system that I like (I felt like the Affinity trees in 2 were maybe too homogenous for proper party crafting)
It was a shitty sword art online romance with Not Kirito and Not Asuna where everything was sacrificed to prop it up.
Only difference is in this case everyone hated Not Kirito because he's basically an actual spineless b***h and wasn't even bothering to hide it.
Best thing about it is that Rex got the actual true harem that fulfills the condition of sex with at least three or more women.
XB3 has issues but it's head and shoulders above what FF16 is putting out for the player
I don't really even fault FF16 for that, it's clear the devs wanted to sort of just create this narrow and focused story. I just htink it's funny they included this in-game wiki for players. Like, who the frick is getting confused in a story that has, at most, 10 present characters?
In other words you're a secondary zoomer homosexual that only got into the series through Pyra/Mythra lewds and Smash. Thanks for saying it outright and confirming what we all knew.
In other words you're a pretentious boomer thinking outdated nostalgia is anything relevant with people's interest. Go back to your gameboy grandpa, don't project your sexual impotence on the rest of us.
Playing gatekeeper is a bit too late and obvious when you're catering to the lowest denominator.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>have some extra sex appeal in one game >catering to the lcd
Is having sex appeal in your game supposed to be a one-way road for the whole series? Like you always have to meet that bar or go further?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Same artist who specializes in porn >But this time has to tone it all the way down
Your argument would have had some merits if everyone didn't see woketards flipping out at XB2 designs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>has to tone it all the way down
This is like saying Hiroe or Tezuka specialize in porn.
Saitom does do hentai but I would hardly even say it's a specialization. Moreover, Xenoblade designs from them have typically followed a pretty basic pattern: Blades can be skimpy but humans tend to be more modestly dressed. In XB2, Morag and Nia's human form are completely covered up whereas Brighid, Pandoria and Pyra and Mythra all show more skin.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Fanservices are fanservices, contrary to dumb woke's falsified argument, there's no need for logic if you're just going to give the audience eye candy. All that reasoning is just you swinging through semantical hoop trying to justify self censorship, the motivation of which is easily figured by looking at who cried the loudest at fanservice in xb2.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The main issue is how the designs aren't interesting, even if they showed more cleavage and legs it would still look boring.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I actually do agree a bit with this
It would have been nice if each character got their own spin on the kind of design that they were borrowing from the classes. Keep to a handful of key signifiers for each of them and fuse that with the unique elements from the class outfit
3 months ago
Anonymous
That would have been cool.
3 months ago
Anonymous
at least post the actual good designs, homosexual.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Can't see shit captain. Is that supposed to be buttstallion?
>implying all xenoblades are on the same level
Even though I enjoyed 3 I can still admit it wasn't on the same level as the others, same with X story but its gameplay carried.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think the bigger problem is that 3 absolutely HAD TO stick the landing on story because it wanted to be a sequel/conclusion, and yet was disappointing and half-baked while also having so much of the world be” been there, done that” from 1 & 2. Where as X’s failing at Story can at least be chocked up to a bunch of unresolved cliffhangers and the series transitioning into some massive sprawling open-world that no doubt took a lot of resources to create.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The frick up was allowing the expectations of it being an ending to the trilogy be a thing.
>What went wrong with Censorblade Blackedicles
No idea! Didn't support it financially. Also the story was slop that tried to take itself seriously while at the same time the main characters were talking like they were in an MMO vent server discussing classes and respecs.
Then again it follows the formula of good, bad. >1 amazing >X total shit >2 amazing >3 total shit
Here's hoping for 4?
>Devs pander to troonset-era >game sells worse because they don't buy anime games or games in general
At least a few shills on Ganker were happy. Not so much that it flopped though.
>game sells worse because they don't buy anime games or games in general
IT sold about as much as XBDE, so I don't really think it's that they were pandering to resetera as much as they WERENT pandering to coomers as much
>Source: my ass
The game is trash. Pyra still gets doujin, meanwhile nothing is there for the new girls in X3. Even coomers can't find a way to coom with those generic dumpster fire.
Source CESA >Pyra still gets doujin, meanwhile nothing is there for the new girls in X3
I would not use doujin count as the measure of how good a game is. Blue Archive gets more than XB2, I would not say Blue Archive is a better game than XB2
3 months ago
Anonymous
And yet Blue Archive still gets a lot more doujin than more popular gacha like Nikke despite being less sexualized, that's because people care about the characters and how unique their designs and personalities feel.
3 months ago
Anonymous
XB2 blew both out of the water. You should've looked closer if you're going to use that as your gotcha, birdbrained fool.
3 months ago
Anonymous
But I never claimed XB2 sold worse
My only claim was XB3 sold about 1.8 million units
Learn2read
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ganker is not ~~*(you*~~)
3 months ago
Anonymous
Didn’t realize there was such a gap between Three Houses and Engage, damn.
>The trannies in kotaku even declared it their victory.
That's my favorite part about all this. The troons and lefties are clearly happy that they won, and then you have some pathetic homosexuals in this thread larping as "oldgays/fans of the series" trying to claim that the censorship we saw with our lying eyes isn't real.
I'm surprised that one dickhead who always says "prove that they censored it" hasn't arrived yet.
They tried not to be obvious but the rainbow-jellied-haired weirdos aren't known for their subtleties. They're caught red-handed gloating for how many times now.
Just remove the menu and chain attack music along with fast travel resetting the area theme (it’s not just because fast travel resets time, go try it in a keves colony and the day theme will restart even if you fast travel at daytime) and that would get me to shut up about the music not being good.
>I want infinite growth all the time
By that rationale, FF9 is a worse game than FF8 and FF should always be obsessed with moronic Nojima-isms because those games sell best
I don't know how anyone can think XB3 is censored or desexualized. It's certainly less present than in 2 but that's just because of the change in tone, you don't have the fricking blushy crushy scenes either.
But Eunie is still incredibly stacked and wears a skintight top the whole game, M's armour has her entire ass hanging out, Ethel's breasts are honestly distractingly jiggly in every scene she has and she even turns into a e-girl later, etc.
People started thinking XB2 was going to be the standard for the rest of the series because it sold better than the previous titles by a lot.
If that were the case, the series would be artistically dead because it would just end up the way Persona is now, where anything that was popular just comes back as a mandatory feature or element and the series just becomes a katamari ball of ideas based on what sells (instead of what the creator actually wants)
Maybe because most of us aren't newbies who think this joke of a low bar fanservice is anything worth calling fanservice at all? I mean, you have to be really horny or be mentally illed to get off women wearing what we see in everyday real world.
Well it's a hell of a lot more fanservice than XB1 had, or any of the other past Xeno games save for maybe KOS-MOS. And if you really do see women dressed like M every day please tell me where you live.
You just admitted the only video games you ever played are three Xenoblade, fricking tourist.
>you have to be super horny or mentally ill to get off on a voluptuous woman wearing a skintight bodysuit
Do you hear yourself? If the only thing that can get you going is absurdly overexaggerated designs like Pyra's I think that's a mental illness on your part. The fact that a design like Eunie's looks real and believable makes it hotter.
If you like realism so much why not go touch grass outside, weirdo? Stop trying to enforce reality standard in fiction.
>you have to be super horny or mentally ill to get off on a voluptuous woman wearing a skintight bodysuit
Do you hear yourself? If the only thing that can get you going is absurdly overexaggerated designs like Pyra's I think that's a mental illness on your part. The fact that a design like Eunie's looks real and believable makes it hotter.
They're a mix of /misc/ morons and Enel cultists trying to paint 2 as the magnum opus of the series by bringing down every other entry. They will do it with the next game, and the game after that, like they have with 1, X and 3.
I played the original because the story and combat looked interesting. I played X2 because of the coom. I don't regret playing either they were fun. But nothing about X3 picks my interest.
i like xc3 a lot but i think some of the choices it made in terms of the worldbuilding for narrative cohesion are a bit weird from a gameplay perspective, the entire world feels very bland (which was probably done intentionally since there's little/no civilization besides the city) but it's a bad contrast after 1 and 2 had such dynamic and interesting worlds, at the absolute least the world could've LOOKED more interesting, you spend half of the game in generic grass area. theres also the whole thing where a lot of the world is supposed to be destroyed because of the annihilation events, but why did that just leave the generic grassy areas and not much else lol
also the fact that the base game felt insanely afraid to make references so you could start at 3 sucked, just commit to having it be a direct sequel
>also the fact that the base game felt insanely afraid to make references so you could start at 3 sucked, just commit to having it be a direct sequel
This drove me crazy
>start at 3 sucked, just commit to having it be a direct sequel
I prefer it this way instead of having to have the previous games as reference to understand anything
beyond hurting sales potential, I just prefer self-contained and complete stories so I'd rather have 3 just be able to start and finish on its own terms instead of requiring 1 and 2 (which were also self-contained stories) for context to understand anything
But it is just one way
It’s a self contained game. Of the people I’ve seen start with 3, nobody was confused by references to other characters or events from the prior game because there’s barely any in the core story. There are things that people who know about the prior two games will recognize but nothing that the plot hinges
Its like the dragon quest trilogies
nah it's stupid to make it that much of a standalone when one of the main points was "it's the merging of the worlds of 1 and 2" and then does absolutely frick all with it. the expansion story works fine as a standalone too but is still tied into the other two games.
Do it one way or the other, just don’t try to do both at once
you can do both at once, it just needs to be executed well. xbc3 wasn't
>Set 12 years after XC1 and 2 >Yet most of the traits of the other races are bred out in one generation >They create god machines with no industrial base across TWO UNIVERSES in the same timespan >Nia is a queen for some reason. Despite showing no royal background...AT ALL. And no, eating a random noble's kid doesnt count. >The entire game takes place in a VR chat room >Two universes decide to be a bunch of buttholes and make other people take part in a forever war because...uhhhhh
Or they could have done the crossover that people fricking wanted from the start. It felt like the Fog King was supposed to be the big set up villain for XC3 BUT IT WAS FRICKING NOOOOOOTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG! A whole DLC dedicated to it, then it runs off, alluding to something. Oh wait! ITS JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE PALLET SWAPPED MONSTERS IN THE VRCHAT ROOM THAT WAS XC3!
>Or they could have done the crossover that people fricking wanted from the start
If XB3 was just the Shulk And Rex Power Hour, I'd have been very disappointed.
I wanted XB3 to be mostly self contained with its own cast, themes, villains and story structure. I do not want Xenoblade to become Nintendo's FF7 Compilation
You could say the same about XB2
And XB1 was technically a standalone title, as was XBX
I think it's probably for the best that the series doesn't ever have a Xenoblade 2-2 or the like just because certain games become breakout successes
And XB3 didn't either.
That's my point, the Xenoblade series, as a whole, has each game be a mostly standalone story with some callbacks to the other games but nothing that's plot critical. They share the same space but they don't require each other to be understood, like how the Dragon Quest trilogies work. DQ4-6 share certain elements on account of taking place in the same world but you don't need to have played 4 and 5 to understand 6. Same with DQ1-3
>And XB3 didn't either.
Did you even finish XC3? I'm not saying you need to play the previous titles to understand its plot but the game was forced to be an "epic trilogy conclusion" instead of finishing off as its own thing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Forced in what way? Are you talking about the Photo or the way the game was advertised or something else?
3 months ago
Anonymous
don't bother replying to obvious trolls
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 plot is dependant on 2 and 1 so it can't be considered a standalone title like 2 or X which are fully divorced from 1 aside from minor references.
3 months ago
Anonymous
this is like saying 1 and 2 are plot dependent on knowing what happened in Klaus' world and the lead-up to why he did the experiment
The point is you get all the necessary details in the game itself. You don't need to know everything from 1 and 2, just what the game itself tells you
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it doesn’t matter that the game isn’t what the creator told everyone it was going to be
Frick off homosexual. Don’t promise and tease you can’t deliver. XC3 is a glorified filler episode, that’ll have pretty much everything relevant that happened summed up in a couple lines in the next game that ACTUALLY takes place in the new world.
It's one incredibly deranged schizo who has been doing it since the day 3 was announced.
Hell, he was probably doing it about 2 too but just switched targets.
>it's announced Sony is going multiplat >suddenly the xenoblade shitposter comes back and spams back-to-back threads seething
Really gets the noggin joggin. Can't wait for these threads to go quiet once Eric is distracted by Famitsu threads tomorrow.
XB3 + future redeemed is the best XB game btw, keep being mindbroken.
>XB3 + future redeemed
I think it really depends on what you want, and I'd even put FR and Torna as their own games for how different they are from their main-games.
Like I knew people who loved Torna despite disliking 2 more than 1, or people who like FR because it polishes certain elements from 3's combat and is a crossover adventure more than its own self-contained story
My experience is the games iterate on the things I like more and more each time, so I've ended up liking the newest games the most though I do like 3 more than FR, but some of that is just due to how much bigger 3 is
One of her early scenes is quite funny because the camera sits at chest level while she walks with the party and I'm convinced her breasts have more jiggle than Pyra or Mythra's did in 2. Like it reminded me more of PErun's levels of buoyancy
>she's not meant to be sexually attractive
MILF with skintight outfit is pretty attractive to me tbh.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's funny because she's one of the only characters in the story confirmed to actually have had sex, aside from Grey, N/M and Nia she even has a dedicated MILF hunter in her younger brother-in-law
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
>skintight outfit
You don't even know what that means, she's wearing a generic military outfit and barely shows any skin, big boobs are enough for you?
3 months ago
Anonymous
The front is tight and the butt is tight. >and barely shows any skin
Never implied she did.
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's nothing sexual about that, do you pop a boner every time you see a woman with big breasts walking down the street?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Reminder you do not get paid to do this. You spend hours of your day talking shitposting games you hate, for free.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You don't?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>every time you see a woman with big breasts walking down the street?
Yes
And the fact that she has belts right over and under her breasts is meant to accentuate them (from a design perspective, I know practically it's probably just meant to restrict loose cloth)
They're purposefully accentuating her breasts with that design, that's why they have the outfit curve under
3 months ago
Anonymous
HNNNNNNGGGGGG
3 months ago
Anonymous
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO
3 months ago
Anonymous
>troons are really trying to convince people that this prudish design is sexy >don't believe your lying eyes goy
lol
lmao even
3 months ago
Anonymous
GOD DAMN
3 months ago
Anonymous
If this design was in a western game you would meme on it for years but it's okay when Nintendo does it
>troons are really trying to convince people that this prudish design is sexy >don't believe your lying eyes goy
lol
lmao even
XB3 flopped ;^)
Based
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Outfit that conforms to the body
versus >Outfit that conforms to the body
:thumbsup:
XB3 flopped Enel.
Simple, the same thing that's wrong with XB2. Its connected to the other games when it really, REALLY, didn't need to be. (less of a problem for XB2, but still an issue I have with its story.)
its kind of why I love XBX's story so much compared to XB2 and XB3, because its not fricking connected to XB1.
XB2 and XB3 are so bad that we usually pretend they don't exist.
>IS THAT A SEE THROUGH NAVEL >ON A FULLY CLOTHED >STRONG INDEPENDENT >MIDDLE AGED WOMAN >IM GONNA COOOOOOOOOM
You woke troons keep shilling this "safe horny" moronation as if it's gonna catch up some day
Watch as the safehorny shill completely shuts up now!
3 months ago
Anonymous
SEXO
3 months ago
Anonymous
GOD DAMN
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The IP counter was at 71 until
A moronic story so unnecessary they had to retroactively mess with the first two games to justify its existence, which diminished both of them.
posted. You're samegayging lol
3 months ago
Anonymous
You can easily tell the 3gay is samegayging by installing GankerX, he does this every thread.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'd be livid too if the market decided that my game pandering to troons and lefties failed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'd be livid too if the market decided that my game pandering to troons and lefties failed.
This. He's getting more desperate than ever now that his game has been ultimately confirmed to be the worst game in the series and the worst RPG of all time.
No they weren’t, in 3’s early designs the heroine clearly wasn’t Nia’s kid. Takahashi probably had a generic idea of forcing the worlds to merge and then burying them to resume his Perfect Works homosexualry, but I refuse to think a story as sloppy as XC3 was some master stroke that was in planning since what? 2014?
This. XB3 completely killed Takahashi's credibility as a writer and game director. XB4 is dead in the water.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Based Monica enjoyers driving the resident schizo mad.
3 months ago
Anonymous
HOT. HOT.
3 months ago
Anonymous
SEXO
GOD DAMN
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HNNNNNNGGGGGG
>not a new IP
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You don't even know what that means
Ironic.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Compare pic related with
The front is tight and the butt is tight. >and barely shows any skin
Never implied she did.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Outfit that conforms to the body
versus >Outfit that conforms to the body
:thumbsup:
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Outfit that conforms to the body
With this logic any woman with big breasts is unwillingly sexualizing herself, a skintight outfit is specifically designed to be skintight
The front is tight and the butt is tight. >and barely shows any skin
Never implied she did.
is not a skintight outfit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You say that as if a t-shirt carries the same connotations as a... combat leotard and vest? I think? Tighter would be better in combat for agility
3 months ago
Anonymous
XB3 flopped ;^)
3 months ago
Anonymous
You can literally see the depression of her navel it's absolutely skintight moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>IS THAT A SEE THROUGH NAVEL >ON A FULLY CLOTHED >STRONG INDEPENDENT >MIDDLE AGED WOMAN >IM GONNA COOOOOOOOOM
You woke troons keep shilling this "safe horny" moronation as if it's gonna catch up some day
3 months ago
Anonymous
Please explain how you can see the navel if the clothing isn't skin tight.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're screaming about tourists and troons while using twitter buzzwords, have a nice day homosexual.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If you think that's what a "generic military outfit" your brain has been ruined by porn. Even IDF prostitutes don't dress that loose.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How the frick is Monica dressed loose? Her uniform isn't sexualized she just has big boobs.
She's pretty late-game and you can't see her early on like with Rare Blades.
It's like Segiri's skin-tight body suit, you can't really see it until way late in the game
No actual towns. All with their architecture reflecting a region or country you're in, with their own culture and music.
The shity is just that, the shity, and boring as frick, and don't even get me started at the sameycamps. At least they got the NPCs right, but that's far from sufficient.
A jRPG without various different cities is soulless. Simple as that.
You mean aside from it being one of the only remaining tools to destroy flame clocks, potentially carrying the souls of people close to Shulk and being forged by Melia herself?
>just a strong sword wowie
reductive >The Monado is part of a demigod. The Aegis is Xeno Jesus
and now intellectually disingenuous
I could just as easily say the monado is just a really strong sword + future vision and the Aegis is also just a really strong sword + future vision, but I assumed you were arguing in good faith
The world being some sort of mashup between XC1's & 2's worlds made it more boring and uninteresting to me, the worlds were one of the main attraction points for me in these games and they fricked it up, should've made something all-new and way out there again, then loosely tied to 1 & 2 in the final quarter of the game like 2 did with 1
Gameplay was only so-so, like it didn't feel like an upgrade from 2 to me, maybe even a bit worse while 2 was a major improvement from 1, kind of a let-down
The start of the game sucks ass. Boring area with nothing but grass & rocks, locked down exploration into yet again boring, wide open desert zone with a shitton of walking around but no mount or anything to help navigating this sort of terrain. World just sucks in general, the camps / settlements are too small, the "battlefields" do not feel as such and so on. The world you explore doesn't feel like it matches the story, it's off.
Characters were kind of bland & boring to me. Maybe because they all have the same "boo hoo child soldier dying quick" background with some personality variation rather than the truly varied and mixed up parties of 1 & 2. Being able to frick about with classes to the degree you can also made them all kind of blend together to me even more, I think good game design requires a careful balance between options and restrictions in game systems to make things unique while maintaining depth, but XC3 just felt loosey-goosey and uninteresting to me.
Extremely stupid XP distribution & balancing, like the game gives you sidequests but if you actually do them you overlevel just from the combat along the way even if you don't use the quest XP, then if you're overleveled you're not allowed to unlock new hero classes anymore until you progress to the point of finding higher level mobs. What the actual frick?
I played like 50-60h until I got too bored and dropped it. Maybe I'll give it another try someday.
Doubling down on pandering to what was already universally considered the worst game of 2017 descended XB3 into a new dimension of shit.
The world being some sort of mashup between XC1's & 2's worlds made it more boring and uninteresting to me, the worlds were one of the main attraction points for me in these games and they fricked it up, should've made something all-new and way out there again, then loosely tied to 1 & 2 in the final quarter of the game like 2 did with 1
Gameplay was only so-so, like it didn't feel like an upgrade from 2 to me, maybe even a bit worse while 2 was a major improvement from 1, kind of a let-down
The start of the game sucks ass. Boring area with nothing but grass & rocks, locked down exploration into yet again boring, wide open desert zone with a shitton of walking around but no mount or anything to help navigating this sort of terrain. World just sucks in general, the camps / settlements are too small, the "battlefields" do not feel as such and so on. The world you explore doesn't feel like it matches the story, it's off.
Characters were kind of bland & boring to me. Maybe because they all have the same "boo hoo child soldier dying quick" background with some personality variation rather than the truly varied and mixed up parties of 1 & 2. Being able to frick about with classes to the degree you can also made them all kind of blend together to me even more, I think good game design requires a careful balance between options and restrictions in game systems to make things unique while maintaining depth, but XC3 just felt loosey-goosey and uninteresting to me.
Extremely stupid XP distribution & balancing, like the game gives you sidequests but if you actually do them you overlevel just from the combat along the way even if you don't use the quest XP, then if you're overleveled you're not allowed to unlock new hero classes anymore until you progress to the point of finding higher level mobs. What the actual frick?
I played like 50-60h until I got too bored and dropped it. Maybe I'll give it another try someday.
Is there anything you liked about XB3? Don't answer that, we all know there isn't. There are no positive aspects of Xenotanic 3.
Simple, the same thing that's wrong with XB2. Its connected to the other games when it really, REALLY, didn't need to be. (less of a problem for XB2, but still an issue I have with its story.)
its kind of why I love XBX's story so much compared to XB2 and XB3, because its not fricking connected to XB1.
No they weren’t, in 3’s early designs the heroine clearly wasn’t Nia’s kid. Takahashi probably had a generic idea of forcing the worlds to merge and then burying them to resume his Perfect Works homosexualry, but I refuse to think a story as sloppy as XC3 was some master stroke that was in planning since what? 2014?
trying too hard to make it appealing for "first time players" by having very little actual connection to the first two games. The DLC is what the main plot should have been focused on.
Takahashi legitimately despises his Japanese culture. I wonder if the next Xeno game will be full-on TLOU with lesbian and trans pandering aswell as no sexiness ever again.
>Takahashi legitimately despises his Japanese culture
that's why lucky 7 is a katana and the arts all have japanese kanji for symbols and noah is basically an idealized bushido samurai, complete with morality ruminations
Enough about Xenoblade 3's wrongs.
Let's talk about it's rights.
I like how it was a commentary about accepting the past, but not being restricted by it and choosing to walk forward despite everything
Frick off shill. Everyone on this board hates every aspect of XB3
>Then why is the game so woke and western?
It's not.
Just because the game lacks the level of sexuality in some of its cast's character designs that XB2 had doesn't mean it's woke and western
IF you look at the designs for 1, X and 3, you'd see that 2 is the aberration for how front-and-center it puts its more overtly sexual character design. Not that that's a bad thing but it's just not necessarily the standard with these games. Fiora is sporting a mini skirt and Sharla's core design is around a tube top and daisy dukes but they aren't really the focus as much in advertising or cover art stuff as 2.
X has tons of fan-service'y optional outfits but the default outfits for most characters are more in line with what XB3 is rocking (which tracks given that the cast of both series are servicemen/women).
I don't think you'd call XBX woke or western in its design if it came out after 2. Hell, even if 2 was the first game in the series, you wouldn't call 1's designs woke/westernized?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Just because the game lacks the level of sexuality in some of its cast's character designs that XB2 had doesn't mean it's woke and western
Stopped reading here. You're gaslighting. You need to go back.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Tell me how this game fits your narrative and not the other anon's
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You're gaslighting
You're asserting the the ONLY reason a game can tone down sexuality compared to a prior entry is because it's gone woke or is trying to appeal to the west.
why do you reply to obvious low quality bait?
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's not like he had to make the post in the first place. To achieve a dialogue, both sides need to communicate, and thus reactions can be forged to counter opposing opinions. Bait posts are still posts, even if they serve little to no purpose
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You're gaslighting
You're asserting the the ONLY reason a game can tone down sexuality compared to a prior entry is because it's gone woke or is trying to appeal to the west.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It may not be the only reason but it's a very real one, look at what's happening at Capcom or Sega for example and we already know Nintendo localizers are woke since they openly admit it on their Twitter bios.
3 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
What the frick is wrong with you samegay shill?
[...]
Nintendo and Monolithsoft as a whole are completely woke now.
>everything I don't like is part of a global conspiracy to hurt me
How tiring a life you must live.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It may not be the only reason but it's a very real one
My point is that, shy of being told it directly or having evidence that contradicts the official explanation, I'm not in the habit of fabricating rationales for actions because I dislike the direction the creators took something in.
Tekken's devs (and I think RGG's too?) have outright admitted they changed character designs to account for localizers' feedback. I hate that shit but I'm not going to extrapolate that to every game in the industry that lacks bikinis or the like for characters because sometimes devs just don't want to have them for their own reasons. I try to avoid conclusions without hard evidence or incredible amounts of circumstantial evidence that can't otherwise be accounted for
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's fine but it doesn't change the fact that XC3 character design is safe and homogenized, it could technically be for gameplay related reasons (the class swap system forcing unisex designs for example) but that doesn't make it any better. Why do you think places like Kotaku and Resetera praised the game when it came out? They don't care about the game or the Xeno fanbase this is just another proxy culture war for them.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't care about whoever fricks say on the internet.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You think you're better than people who do care?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I am.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>okay just because it's happening in literally every franchise >and that leftists are getting more and more emboldened >does not mean that it's happening this time >I'm totally a based fence sitter and not a lefty whose glad this is happen
You've opened my eyes. Gonna go buy this slop and the dlc.
3 months ago
Anonymous
My entire point is you can't use a trend to jump to conclusions on every case you suspect something is happening
It functionally becomes McCarthyism where some real soviet espionage becomes an excuse to make accusations based on paranoia or bad-faith intent
You judge things on a case-by-case basis, not based on trends that you're trying to make the evidence fit to
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You judge things on a case-by-case basis
This is exactly what people are doing though, there's plenty of precedent and Nintendo of Japan has confirmed they listen and modify games based on localizers input. >https://www.neogaf.com/threads/nintendo-admits-animal-crossing-gender-changes-due-to-wokeness-and-talks-other-changes.1533408/
Not to mention all the obvious fanservice edits in XCX or Fire Emblem.
3 months ago
Anonymous
and?
3 months ago
Anonymous
That’s not case by case tho. What FE and XCX dealt with could be distinct from what XC3 deals with. The censorship that the local branch applies to games after the fact is not incriminating evidence that the Japanese branch built those critiques into their games from the start
3 months ago
Anonymous
Same company, same localization team, same franchise, why would it be any different when all evidence points to the obvious?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because the devs themselves said the outfit change was due to the more serious tone of the story. So you’d have to sit here and say that the team is lying, which you haven’t had reason to suspect in the past with prior statements turning out to be lies.
There’s no precedent to suspect that Monolith Soft cares much for the opinions of localizers in their design process. The idea that they’re woke and pandering to the west now is the same type of theory that Xenoblade 1 “isn’t anime” because the original models aren’t cel shaded or have more pronounced lips than is typical of anime art styles, in contradiction to what the devs themselves said during interviews
3 months ago
Anonymous
>There’s no precedent to suspect that Monolith Soft cares much for the opinions of localizers
3 months ago
Anonymous
Fuuuuug why did you make me remember that
3 months ago
Anonymous
Stop believing your lying eyes goy. It's not happening but if it were it's a good thing and it's not a big deal.
How does this affect you?
3 months ago
Anonymous
What got changed in XB2?
Besides the horrible voice acting
3 months ago
Anonymous
Iirc lots of religious references
3 months ago
Anonymous
A lot of dialogue was altered to be less "problematic", especially Poppy's.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So you’re telling me that the localizers are powerful enough to do this but then let XB2 go through? They do not seem to be very consistent in how they censor shit then
3 months ago
Anonymous
>discord troon can't believe the evidence in front of him
No wonder you people think men can become women.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>no wonder you [headcanon]
3 months ago
Anonymous
>anon cannot explain how localizers censored one game but failed to censor the one that came right after it
By all accounts, they would have had the same opportunities to do so
3 months ago
Anonymous
>anon cannot explain how localizers censored one game
But they did, you simply choose to not watch the video posted.
3 months ago
Anonymous
But that's how censorship normally would go? First run slips through then close the gaps for the next one.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Okay so we’re of the opinion that every game after 1 is censored? XB2 is pozzed?
3 months ago
Anonymous
You need to learn japanese and play the original version if you don't want censored slop.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No just 3
3 months ago
Anonymous
Iirc xb2 was a very small team and kinda snuck through while the main team was working on zelda. Without oversight it's easy to think they would get by even though some censorship (pyra boob jiggle) was made to appeal to cero
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Because the devs themselves said the outfit change was due to the more serious tone of the story
Did they actually say the designs were muted for story reasons or is that just inferred?
Didn’t realize there was such a gap between Three Houses and Engage, damn.
Three Houses is a juggernaut. I doubt it will ever hit that high again.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It’s from an interview with the devs in the official Nintendo website
https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-6-xenoblade-chronicles-3-part-2/
3 months ago
Anonymous
Interesting, thanks for the source king.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Of course
I think Nintendo has the best dev interviews, the old Iwata Asks about XB1 are fascinating too
I’m upset we didn’t get more stuff during the media rollout for XB2
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sena SEXOOOOO
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nta but wouldn't any censorship in the American games would need to be approved by the head company in Japan?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not necessarily. Responsibilities for green lighting projects and regional versions of games would come down to the head of the regional office. For instance, which games even get localized would have to get Reggie’s advocacy back in the day, operation rainfall was needed. The Japan office wasn’t the one that decided that Europe would get Xenoblade but America wouldn’t, that was all on NoA (and why they tried to get involved more with XBX and kind of botched it)
You’d also see different series get focus altogether if NoA or NoE had that much influence
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ot but kinda glad Reggie put a hold on mother 3 tbh
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It functionally becomes McCarthyism
Except McCarthy was right, lefty.
3 months ago
Anonymous
McCarthy was literally American Goebbels
3 months ago
Anonymous
he didn't know that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He was also right.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He wasn't a nazi or are you implying all republicans are nazis? You don't like him because he hated commies? His suspicion wasn't unfounded considering the soviets were factually spying and sabotaging America.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>what is: all opposing sides committing espionage in human history?
3 months ago
Anonymous
As a communist, what did you think of Xenoblade
3 months ago
Anonymous
As a libertarian, I like it. All four installments
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
He was right that there was attempts from the Soviet Union to Infiltrate America
He was wrong 90% of the time in terms of who was actually part of those infiltration attempts and accusing someone of being a Soviet because they weren’t a diehard supporter of whatever the government was doing in foreign countries is what McCarthyism is.
3 months ago
Anonymous
the Hispanic wouldn't know that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>He was right that there was attempts from the Soviet Union to Infiltrate America
He was right in that they infiltrated every fricking institution and have spent the last several decades rotting us from the inside.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's what I hate about you homosexuals. >it's not happening >it's not a big deal >okay so what if it is happening?
You expect us to ignore our eyes by feigning that you're arguing in good faith. You have no idea how much I hate you and your kind.
I'm just happy that the game did bad in sales and you can't discuss it on Ganker.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I have maintained that it's not happening (happening meaning that xenoblade has gone woke or is westernized)
I've not once suggested that it's happening
3 months ago
Anonymous
>okay so what if it is happening?
where did I say it was happening?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody is saying ALL designs need to be sexualized, neither X or 1 were neutered and the existence of sexy outfits like swimsuits or bunnygirl make it obvious they weren't "woke" either.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, then by that same rationale, the existence of Monica's design or Segiri's dimorphic outfit or even just Eunie's tit size would undermine the idea that the game is trying to be woke, no? Or the swimsuit DLC for 3, for that matter
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Segiri's dimorphic outfit
She's fully clothed >Eunie's tit size
Just having big breasts means sexualization now? >Monica's design
lol
lmao even
3 months ago
Anonymous
>She's fully clothed
what does that have to do with anything? >Just having big breasts means sexualization now?
The character was made by a person who could have given her small or no breasts. So yes, choosing to give characters big, noticeable breasts and outfits that conform to those bodies is a form of sexualizing characters
Pyra's outfit, even if you covered up most of the bare-skin portions, would still be pretty sexual just by how it conforms to her body (whereas the Gormotti hood hides most of her body shape)
Shionne from Arise shows more skin than Segiri's outfit does, but Eunie in that outfit is MUCH more sexualize than Shionne
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Choosing to give characters big breasts is sexualization
I wish nature hadn't sexualized your mom the way it did. If it had chosen to give her small breasts, I wouldn't have had to frick that dried out old hag.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Choosing to give characters big breasts AND putting them in an outfit that accentuates them and conforms to their body is sexualization
Yes
You're right that giving a character big breasts, by itself, is not a form of conscious sexualization
But throwing that same character into a compression body suit when her other female party members are in a tank top or a spaghetti strap blouse, I don't think it's unfair to say that the decision to put the party member with the biggest breasts in an outfit that accentuates and conforms to them was intended to be sexually charged as a design
3 months ago
Anonymous
How is Monica wearing a compression body suit? You saw a navel and started acting like she's a Hooters girl?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not Monica, eunie
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 also has swimsuits, including an actual bikini for Eunie whereas 2 just had a bunch of tame one pieces.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't think you'd call XBX woke or western in its design if it came out after 2. Hell, even if 2 was the first game in the series, you wouldn't call 1's designs woke/westernized?
They absolutely would. These people are just secondaries who hopped onto Xenoblade after seeing some Pyra art thinking it's just a singleplayer version of their favourite skinnerbox gacha game. They have no interest in Xenoblade itself and nothing to live for beyond looking at anime breasts so that's the only feature they judge games by.
Enough about Xenoblade 3's wrongs.
Let's talk about it's rights.
I like how it was a commentary about accepting the past, but not being restricted by it and choosing to walk forward despite everything
I like how moebius isn't actually all that powerful or tough, they mostly rely on the flame clocks to dominate colonies
Like, we know that, at least in theory, some Heroes (Ethel and Cammuravi) and some city citizens (Matthew, probably Na'el) could deal with Moebius consuls. The main thing is they basically have to build in a kill switch and expiration date on all Soldiers to keep them in line. Moebius is mostly about soft-power and using tools to keep the world under their thumb, rather than them being super super powerful on the individual level
They ruled over the worlds because they used tools and systems and the control of information to keep everyone in their place.
Like, Moebius shares more in common with the Combine from HL. They use the erasure of history, controlling the population growth rate, completely dictating incentives and reward structures, and tying soldiers lives to the flame clocks to dominate the world.
>The Combine >completely ignores that the Combine had sheer might on their side that they struck with first to to back up the internal subversion afterwards.
For as much of disappointment as the ending and final dungeon was, the end of Chapter 5 and start of Chapter 6 is the absolute peak of the entire series and I especially like how it builds off the tropes established in the earlier games. In any other RPG I would not care about the threat of Mio dying or the City getting blown up because stuff like that is always a bait and switch, but Xenoblade has not fricked around with it before which added way more weight to the situation and an incredible feeling of relief when it was averted.
I like how moebius isn't actually all that powerful or tough, they mostly rely on the flame clocks to dominate colonies
Like, we know that, at least in theory, some Heroes (Ethel and Cammuravi) and some city citizens (Matthew, probably Na'el) could deal with Moebius consuls. The main thing is they basically have to build in a kill switch and expiration date on all Soldiers to keep them in line. Moebius is mostly about soft-power and using tools to keep the world under their thumb, rather than them being super super powerful on the individual level
The character writing and party dynamics are fantastic compared to the other two games. Even Sena who gets the short end of the stick in terms of development has more going on than half the cast in 1 or 2. Even most of the hero characters do too.
Easily my favorite game of all time. Extremely good story and character writing that had me absolutely enthralled at the emotional climax of the story. Paired amazing gameplay and world design that almost never disappointed. There was one small pacing problem near the end where it turns into a scavenger hunt across the world and the entire sequence is superfluous, but that's only 1 hour compared many tens hours of the game being a riveting experience. With plenty of side quests and content spread throughout the world there is easily several hundred hours worth of content to enjoy. I highly recommend giving the game a try.
I wasn't an RPG guy until I saw this game, and really wanted to try it out. Now here I am with over 300 hours into the game without a single regret. I have now purchased every single installment in the series and am still currently playing through them. This game's story is incredible, and I absolutely love the character cast. They're so loveable. This is a must play RPG.
This might be the most fantastic all-around Xenoblade game I’ve experienced so far. Combat system, characterization of the main cast, music, story progression, all of which are great. Italso has one of the most memorable endings I’ve ever seen in JRPGs.
I've been playing video games since the days of Final Fantasy 1, and I've seen a lot of them come and go. But Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is one of the best I've ever played. The story is gripping, the characters are memorable, and the world is absolutely stunning. I could spend hours just exploring the different areas and taking in the sights.
>XB3 hater folk have calm, cool, collectedd, detailed deep-dives as to the myriad flaws of the game, which is now considered to be the worst in the series with nary a single redeeming quality to its name >XB3 fanboys blatantly raid in from Enel's discord to samegay the same "DUUURRR WELL ME LIKE GAME CUS *insert MCU shit here*"
As if there was any doubt, that XB3 is the worst piece of fiction to grace mankind.
If you suck a game off this hard, regardless of whatever game it is. Hell, any media. You just need to crucified.l for the betterment of the gene pool.
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is the best game in the Xenoblade franchise, and the best game bearing the "Xeno" brand since Xenogears. This near-masterpiece features the most original and compelling narrative in a Xeno title since Xenogears, with rich themes, a timeless cast of characters, and the strongest battle system yet in a Xenoblade game
A masterpiece. I finished the game and it was wonderful from start to finish. Touching moments. A beautiful soundtrack. Fluid gameplay. I prefer this style of controls and character advancement over XC2. XC2 was ackward and clunky. XC3 was exquisite
Pictured: XB3's entire remaining fanbase
This has nothing to do with anything in the thread, but I just found out X has some High Entia-ish wings available as an accesory, and now I'm interested to see how close I can get to cosplaying as Melia or Eunie in it.
Why would you want to cosplay as any character from the worst RPG of the 2020s???
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is the best game in the Xenoblade franchise, and the best game bearing the "Xeno" brand since Xenogears. This near-masterpiece features the most original and compelling narrative in a Xeno title since Xenogears, with rich themes, a timeless cast of characters, and the strongest battle system yet in a Xenoblade game
I've been playing video games since the days of Final Fantasy 1, and I've seen a lot of them come and go. But Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is one of the best I've ever played. The story is gripping, the characters are memorable, and the world is absolutely stunning. I could spend hours just exploring the different areas and taking in the sights.
Holy shit Enel's discord is literally just copypasting ChatGPT responses lmaoooo
If you suck a game off this hard, regardless of whatever game it is. Hell, any media. You just need to crucified.l for the betterment of the gene pool.
What did you expect from people who unironically like what is confirmedly proven to be the Sonic 06 of the series?!
A masterpiece. I finished the game and it was wonderful from start to finish. Touching moments. A beautiful soundtrack. Fluid gameplay. I prefer this style of controls and character advancement over XC2. XC2 was ackward and clunky. XC3 was exquisite
Phenomenal. Some of the story beats here are among the strongest in the series, and the gameplay is once again the best yet. Only thing holding it back from a 10 is a lack of development to some story beats, and a pretty unpleasant final boss battle.
addictive combat system and a story that keeps you hooked on the screen for most of its development. The game is unbeatable until it reaches a certain point in the story, where it feels unnecessarily lengthened and the climax that had been worked on throughout the game deflates. The soundtrack is a delight and there is content for hours of fun. As a negative point, I don't like the decision to limit the obtaining of classes if you are above the level of the story, it seems to me a vague way to control the extra leveling and it hurts players who like to squeeze all the content out of as the story progresses.
Me diving into the radioactive wasteland that is XC3 hate and realizing they don't have valid arguments for any of their claims, just an echo chamber
Phenomenal. Some of the story beats here are among the strongest in the series, and the gameplay is once again the best yet. Only thing holding it back from a 10 is a lack of development to some story beats, and a pretty unpleasant final boss battle.
I'm glad Japanese developers are finally distancing themselves from awkward character designs, it was long overdue.
Enel's discord could not be more obvious lol
That's fine but it doesn't change the fact that XC3 character design is safe and homogenized, it could technically be for gameplay related reasons (the class swap system forcing unisex designs for example) but that doesn't make it any better. Why do you think places like Kotaku and Resetera praised the game when it came out? They don't care about the game or the Xeno fanbase this is just another proxy culture war for them.
The only people who like Xenotanic 3 are A) Resetera, B) Kotaku, and C) Enel's discord. We, the sane Xeno fans, universally refer to is as the worst thing to ever happen to the seires.
good characters. Very nice battle system. Easy to understand game mechanics with the option of a) re-viewing tutorial or b) using the "training" option. The story is awesome. I was absolutely invested.
amazing game that blew my expectations out of the water. The story had me griped the whole time and the detailed combat system was extremely fun to delve into. The characters are one of the things I loved the most about the game as they were fun and meshed with each other very well. The voice acting was also really great and bring life to a lot of scenes. I don’t think I would have enjoyed the game so thoroughly if I hadn’t played xenoblade 1 and 2 before hand but it can still be enjoyed without playing them. Almost forgot to mention the music. That was honestly (as usual with xenoblade) one of the best parts. I also absolutely loved the ending. People who didn’t like it because it “goes against the message” or because it “didn’t make sense” I’m fairly certain were not paying attention when playing the game. It was a perfect end which was shown to be the characters aims from the start of the game.
I know, don't feed the trolls and all, but I still have yet to hear a competent reason as to why 3 is hated so. Like, the story was rushed in chapter 6/7? And... That's it? That's the best you got?
>the same guy started spamming the censored character designs and talking about the story
Guessing the thread was linked on a troon discord.
No amount of shilling on Ganker translated to sales btw.
Enough about Xenoblade 3's wrongs.
Let's talk about it's rights.
I like how it was a commentary about accepting the past, but not being restricted by it and choosing to walk forward despite everything
No. It's the worst game many of us have ever played.
This might be the most fantastic all-around Xenoblade game I’ve experienced so far. Combat system, characterization of the main cast, music, story progression, all of which are great. Italso has one of the most memorable endings I’ve ever seen in JRPGs.
What the frick is wrong with you samegay shill?
It may not be the only reason but it's a very real one, look at what's happening at Capcom or Sega for example and we already know Nintendo localizers are woke since they openly admit it on their Twitter bios.
Nintendo and Monolithsoft as a whole are completely woke now.
This might be the most fantastic all-around Xenoblade game I’ve experienced so far. Combat system, characterization of the main cast, music, story progression, all of which are great. Italso has one of the most memorable endings I’ve ever seen in JRPGs.
Enough about Xenoblade 3's wrongs.
Let's talk about it's rights.
I like how it was a commentary about accepting the past, but not being restricted by it and choosing to walk forward despite everything
Does anyone else get this weird, altered state feeling when playing Xenoblade games? It's not a good kind of feeling, it's more like being sickly drunk and dosed up on sleep meds. The characters all talk and move in this bizarre, overly drawn out and stilted way. They talk constantly, but you can't really make any sense of what anyone is saying, or why they're saying it. You just sort of float on top of it all and then it's over. I first noticed this with Xenosaga, but the Xenoblade games have taken it beyond the point of absurdity. It's like it was paced / designed to appeal to people who dwell on the slowest wavelength possible, with weird pauses, drawn out shots that mean nothing, awkward scenes of people walking as if in they're in a dream. Was Takahashi trying to create a dreamlike feeling with these games, or is he just that autistic?
This has nothing to do with anything in the thread, but I just found out X has some High Entia-ish wings available as an accesory, and now I'm interested to see how close I can get to cosplaying as Melia or Eunie in it.
That's fine but it doesn't change the fact that XC3 character design is safe and homogenized, it could technically be for gameplay related reasons (the class swap system forcing unisex designs for example) but that doesn't make it any better. Why do you think places like Kotaku and Resetera praised the game when it came out? They don't care about the game or the Xeno fanbase this is just another proxy culture war for them.
Safe and Homogenized are real complaints! I think that's a perfectly acceptable critique, that you wish the designs were more out there and exotic and weird. That's a fine and normal thing to complain about >the class swap system forcing unisex designs for example
The fact that they split designs for Segiri between male and female shows they at least considered having sexually dimorphic outfits. Not all of them would require it, but some do, like Melia's, Nia's, Alexandria's and the like
I mostly just wish the characters would wear the jackets in different ways. Like Eunie's jacket should always be open, Noah's always closed >Why do you think places like Kotaku and Resetera praised the game when it came out?
First, it's mostly just Jason Schreier from Kotaku. they actually had a rather nice shoutout to it in their Xeno-series retrospective article
Honestly, a lot of it is going to come down to the QOL, polish and voice acting because that makes up 90% of how people experience games. 99% of the praise for FF16 and FF7 Remake is more around the fact that the presentation in cutscenes and voice acting isn't PS1 levels of clunkiness, even if the writing and characters are less compelling than games back then had
For some, it's a proxy war thing, but I wouldn't even say that's the issue of most mainstream outlets these days (especially when 3 has scenes that are basically Abe's Masterplan)
I just don't like the harem 3 said 2 had and the fact there's no sexy designs like 1 and 2.
Otherwise, 3 is forgettable and not needed either way. 1 and 2 ended fine, we did not need to combine them together.
Yeah kinda same. Turning it into a harem seemed weird when Nia was always third wheel. Feels like they wanted to distance themselves from 2 through retroactive changes.
The combat was shit. Having all your characters constantly switch classes robbed everyone of their unique identities, and made leveling a chore.
The story also wasn't engaging, and took even longer to get started than Xenoblade 2. The character designs are bland as hell, and there's barely any music playing in many areas.
>The story also wasn't engaging,
The story was the most interesting part. A world that only knows war, but doesn't know WHY it's warring. A population that only ages to a brief point, before they cease to exist and never experience old age. A group of enemies that become allies and discover a truth of the world they never knew. That moment where the main party witnesses a newborn baby for the first time was incredible. The prison scene with Mio's monolog to her friends was absolutely gut wrenching. And despite how you may feel about the rest of the game after that point, it was still fun seeing the character interactions.
>The people don’t know the natural order of life! It’s so deep!
>There are still other living things everywhere, and science hasn’t been quashed.
>literally requires ALL the Nopon to be quiet and do nothing
This story sucks
>literally requires ALL the Nopon to be quiet and do nothing
They're a race of greedy war profiteers, this is a dream come true for them
>A world that only knows war, but doesn't know WHY it's warring. A population that only ages to a brief point, before they cease to exist and never experience old age. A group of enemies that become allies and discover a truth of the world they never knew
You're describing the game's setting, it's unique for sure but the way the story develops is the problem. XC3 looks good on paper but playing it through the eyes of a homogenized party with extremely similar settings and motivations makes it ill suited for such a long game.
>You're describing the game's setting
I described the game's plot and at least two different scenes, as well as character interactions. You didn't like them, but they were entertaining.
The first half is describing the game's setting though
>and at least two different scenes, as well as character interactions. You didn't like them, but they were entertaining.
I did like some scenes but most were superfluous, XC3 has some interesting ideas and I would've enjoyed it as a 10 to 20 hour long game.
Conceptually yes, it does sound very compelling. But in practice, they just gloss over the finer details and the overall execution is just boring and confusing.
>Mio's monolog to her friends
speed reader
That was M, not Mio
fpbp, also the fact that there's 7 units fighting means the player has less influence on the battle's outcome.
Yup. Also, after playing all these amazing JRPGs in Q1 2024, I don't see how anyone can go back to Xeno. Xeno is so aggressively unfun.
>all these amazing JRPGs in Q1 2024
???
>after playing all these amazing JRPGs in Q1 2024
such as?
>The combat was shit. Having all your characters constantly switch classes robbed everyone of their unique identities, and made leveling a chore.
Absolutely disagree. If XB3 worked like the past games you would just never use Taion or Lanz because their classes are shit, the customizability means everyone can be useful and steadily unlocking new classes and abilities via quests is so much better than 2's gacha system.
I want characters to be unique, I don't want chesspieces that I can just switch around their roles, it robs the players of that sense of investment.
The characters still have unique quirks via their base stats, ouroboros forms, and Noah and Mio's special abilities. I think they could've done more there but it's still a much better outcome than just having characters you never use like Sharla or 80% of the blades.
You obviously never play Bravely Default 2. That game went stale as soon as you realize everyone can be anything, and there's zero practical reason to invest in favorite character.
>What is: Final fantasy 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8...
>t. never played ff2, ff6, ff7 or ff8
Tell me the difference between Squall and Zell, aside from the deathblows.
Or Firion or Guy, aside from minor stat differences which can easily be patched
Or Locke and Cyan, aside from thieving and bushido, both of which suck
et cetera
Zell can break damage limit much easier and is the best damage dealer. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
Pretty sure he specified the exact thing you described. Maybe you should learn to read you stupid fricking homosexual.
The problem with BD2 is that the jobs sucked, the enemies were designed with a dumb counter system that punished you for experimenting, and turn order changed from full turn based to semi-atb like FFX but without the turn order indicator. Job systems do work, you just have to design everything around the job system. In FFV every job level gave you something, whether that was a new ability (that any job could use) or a new passive, while that’s not the case for XB3.
I would have enjoyed the job system if there was more to gain from leveling a class. Currently, a class has all of its skills unlocked right from the start, and the only thing leveling it up does is strengthen the skills while using that class, or allow you to inherit very specific arts or skills from the class. But whoops, your inherit slots are locked behind leveling up and a majority of the things you can inherit are trash so what you put there doesn’t matter until endgame. If they unlocked new arts and skills for the class as it leveled up and let you inherit any art or skill instead of the 2 they chose, that would have allowed for a lot more customization and flexibility from the player. Also the limit on directional or field effect arts without wasting a skill slot is complete trash, I earned the art so I should be able to equip it.
>If XB3 worked like the past games you would just never use Taion or Lanz because their classes are shit
How about making their classes not shit then?
The Xeno series has literally never had good balancing sadly, 3 is actually probably the best it's ever done.
>playing a forced diversity character
No.
>The combat was shit
but enough about 2
your mother not swallowing you
Takahashi proving that he’s just spinning his wheels.
Is there some sort of secret group who's goal is to make the same Xenoblade thread over and over? Just move on man.
Yep, it's Enel's discord.
They're working overtime since one of their pillars, Chuggaconroy, got exposed as a pedo
Oh Enel, the HS teacher who openly defends both Zer0 and e-girls, saw a pedo as a pillar of his community? Never could have guessed.
>Enel is a HS teacher
Christ, imagine going to school and having to learn from some suicidal discord weeb
Imagine how many times he uses his delusion XC2 headcanon as examples of deep subtle writing techniques
Why does Enel hate X1?
Says it's not a real Xeno game because it originally didn't have Xeno in the title
He hates that he's a secondary to the series as he played 2 first and not 1 or X, all switchtards have the same complex and do the same shit with BotW with Zelda and Odyssey with Mario.
This. XB3 is now being exposed as the sham Gankerv/e always knew it as. The series is now dead in the water and XB4 is confirmed never happening now that even Nintendo is ashamed of it.
Eric and Scrimblochads won. We fricking kneel.
There is no positive aspects to XB3. Absolutely none.
Chugga was a pedo?
I can't dig that
Say it ain't true?
no, he's a footgay and an autist who got called out by some girl for trying to get her to do footstuff (while also having a gf at the time)
enel is the one getting called a pedo, though I havent seen any of the actual evidence
>no, he's a footgay and an autist
Thank frick.
Now that I can dig
He was spamming fetish roleplay with his friend's wife and that's about all the concrete """evidence""" against him, kinda a ProJared situation where it's big drama for nothing
There's this one, the Xenoblade 2 "I'm new to the game does it get better" to prompt them to reply en masse about how "kino" the end is, and the Xeno 1 "this is boring the combat sucks it's too shounen" one to prompt them to shit on 1 in the usual way and say 2 is better.
They rotate them when one hasn't been up for an hour.
Nothing. It's the best game in the series and a perfect conclusion to the trilogy.
>What went so utterly and unforgivably wrong?
You posting
Removed all the sex appeal. Literally the only reason anyone cared about Xeno 2 was the GIANT breasts and ass, g string designs, the e-girls, the horny blades, the rabbit titted b***h that mindbroke feminists.
3 has..... women running around in Adidas and Nike tracksuits? Uhh.... Okay. It's literally already forgotten.
This is like, half right lol. Xenoblade 2's designs were criticized so much that it's obv Monolith played the designs safe for 3. They just played it way too safe, everyone in the main party looks generic, and all the side characters wear the same four outfits.
>Praised by 95% of the paying audience
>criticised by 5% and people who never purchased the game
Monolith: "Hmm... Who should we psnder to for 3....."
XC2 secondaries were never the audience.
When XC1 fans b***hed and whined about XC2's sexualized designs, I didn't care and enjoyed it just the same. When XC2 fans b***hed about XC3 designs being "woke" I didn't care either. I'll support whatever direction Takahashi chooses to take, if you actually care one way or the other you're a secondary.
If being a "secondary" means I judge each game as it comes and am not a cult member that consooms product by someone who I'm a fan of like you then yeah, I'm a secondary.
>consooms
Go back to your cult
Only caring about muh booba and coom and ignoring everything other quality of XC2 does indeed make you a secondary, yes. I would argue that other aspects of XC3 being toned down and made more sombre like the music has a much bigger impact than the designs, but you shitposters didn't actually play the game so of course you wouldn't know that
Maybe you'd have a point if you actually presented a genuine critique of XC3 (and there are plenty) instead of just sperging out about the designs. I bet you gays didn't even play XC2 and only jerked off to the Pyra/Mythra doujins
There are plenty of criticism but design getting puritanization stands out the most. Visual direction is big part of video game and it's pointless trying to pretend XB3 didn't try to tone down all the sexy art.
The entire game has the more bombastic elements of the previous games toned down including the OST to match with the game's tone. It's a deliberate artistic decision and not "pozz". FE Engage had a much more woke localization with half the text sanitized by Treehouse and even that had e-girl fanservice intact. You are moronic.
Fanservice getting toned down in Engage isn't what we call intact, dumbo. Also just because one game is less censored doesn't mean another getting censored is ok. Did you skip your logic class in secondary school?
How was it toned down, e-girl Anna fanservice is arguably way more offensive to normalgays than anything in XC2. It shows that Nintendo's localization team doesn't have the power to remove all fanservice and that the dev team does have control
A bit of tummy is fanservice now? Your bar is purposely set low, I see.
>uhh ACTUALLY that doesn't count and it's still pozzed because it isn't enough
>BE GRATEFUL FOR OUR CENSORSHIP GOY
Cool hasbara, yiddo.
>Video game is visual representation
>"B-but you can't criticize designs! That doesn't count!"
moron pozzed wienersucker.
You can just skip all that and say "I CONSOOOOOOMMMMMM"
Centrist have been getting uppity
>Removed all the sex appeal.
I wish. If they got rid of the disgusting sex fanservice, that would've been a positive in the game's favor. Games need to stop selling on shallow gimmicks like muh anime breasts and muh cinematic storytelling.
Games are a visual medium and humans are sexual beings.
>humans are disgusting and flawed beings who value anime breasts over good gameplay
>this means we should pander to them, instead of fixing this broken mindset
>All that just to avoid saying 'Im a misanthrope who havent grown past 10 yo'
Didn't mom tell you not to talk to strangers on Ganker?
>who value anime breasts over good gameplay
Who said that? We want both. You are sexless and broken, however.
Sexophobe is a waste of air. You are dead end of evolution.
Your STD seed wasting is a blight on humanity.
Found the incel zoomer.
You will never have a meaningful relationship in your life.
>it's wrong to value good gameplay above all else, even if it means getting rid of the trash, like sex fanservice
And no, you can't have both. Having sex appeal in a game just leads to porn spam, and that's NEVER helpful to gameplay discussion.
Literally mind broken by exposed skin. Leave and only come back once you learn to make a good quality post.
Porn has more longevity than story discussion. Once the story discussion is exhausted, that's it. It's over. But people will ALWAYS want to frick/jerk off.
>Porn has more longevity than story discussion.
Story? Porn? Wtf where's the gameplay?!
Let me guess, you're circumcised since birth.
Agreed Xenoblade 2 is best Otaku game since long time. It's high budget ecchi/fanservice game which we don't get easily.
Good. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was a stain on the franchise that the franchise should most definitely distance itself from.
I'm glad Japanese developers are finally distancing themselves from awkward character designs, it was long overdue.
The narrative was absolutely all over the place and writing was mediocre at best. The DLC did very little to redeem it, despite the title. So many things just happen without any understanding why or how. Noah just pulls out the sword of end when he needs it? OK, but what is it? Why is it there? Noah and mio are clones of the originals, but why are they there and don't follow the rules of the universe?so and so forth, I need to watch all the cutscenes again tbh but i was so turned off by it all lasy year that i havent felt the need to.
2oomers expected a hentai game and got actual soul
>IP keeps staying the same
OP get a life
>No e-girl, no shota
>Bland design as a result of kowtowing to woketards
>Trashy localization as per usual
>Doesn't get what makes 2 great
>No e-girl
the first two didn't either
X had Lin which is 13 and could be equipped with sexy outfits that were censored in the western version, 2 had a few characters like Electra.
It has shota.
Shota + hag is safe horny. e-girl is the true normalgay filter
Sorry I don't do Tumblr speak.
Cope
They shouldn't have made a second game, nor a third. XB's story was told, and the novelty of the giants only works once.
>removed the gacha garbage that made 2 a hassle to play
>people complain
There was nothing wrong with XB2's gacha.
Shut the frick up
He's right
>each rare blade was designed by a different artist, leading to some heavy artstyle clashing with the main cast
>each rare blade has its own quest, so you miss out on content if you don't get all of them
>a limited consumable item is required to reassign a blade to a different driver
>field skill bullshit makes the experience even more miserable
XB3 is a godsend in comparison
>heavy artstyle clashing with the main cast
Big overstatement, especially when the main cast clash with Torna and npcs in the first place
I may not like Saitom's artstyle much, but at least XB3 is consistent
More like neutered Saitom, the dude's design were always very attractive so it's obvious the devs told him to tone the sexyness down for XC3.
Stop being a b***h
>neutered
are we going to pretend that shit isn't story relevant, nobody knew what sex even was let alone sex appeal. They were all test tube babies till they were 10 and they live like drones for another ten years until the cycle resets and they do it again.
What a waste of potential it was. Even the swimsuit dlc looks like something a Karen would buy for her daughter's first day in the pool.
Real world logics is a terrible tool for defending desexualization in the realm of fiction.
>Real world logics is a terrible tool for defending desexualization in the realm of fiction.
you would have a point if it wasn't one of the biggest parts of the narrative in the game
>More like neutered Saitom
People will just say shit
>desexualization in the realm of fiction.
In-universe logic makes sense tho.
In XB2, only Blades were particularly sexual (aside from the dancers in Bana's office), while normal humans mostly dressed in a reasonable fashion.
In XB3, the soldiers' sexuality is literally being depressed through the flame clocks
Moreover, It's not like Saitom's standard designs are like Pyra and Mythra all the time. You'd have to believe he designs the characters in a vacuum, without any context or knowledge for what kinds of people they'd be or what their situation to think that his default is always to go otaku-coomer until someone tells him otherwise. We know that just within XB2, the designs for humans are more grounded than those for Blades. Morag was designed with a full military outfit whereas Pandoria has a light bulb in her shoulder
>cherrypicks image
>female character is still very feminine and attractive
Other than making XC3 safer and less problematic I'm guessing the class swap system contributed to designs becoming more unisex. Regardless, boring looking characters make games feel less unique.
XB3 isn't trying to be safer or less problematic though, it's just a tonally different story. It would be a little strange if the artist you hire for an RPG series has so little range that they can't make designs to fit the personalities of characters or the context of the story
Moreover, I wasn't trying to suggest that Saitom doesn't make feminine character normally, my point is just that he has range.
Eunie, Sena and Mio are still distinctly feminine, as are Alexandria and Monica. I'd argue most of the female heroes or party members in XB3 are more overtly feminine in design than, say, Morag is
It would be sort of concerning for Xenoblade as a series if their main character artist lacked the range to accommodate a variety of character types or story tones
>third entry in cult classic RPG series is so universally hated that it kills the series forever
Tale as old as time...
Just shut up Enel. Eric won and there's nothing you can do about it.
With that logic XC2 wouldn't have any serious scenes involving Pyra or Mythra, most people don't care about fanservice to the point where they feel it detracts from the story.
>It would be sort of concerning for Xenoblade as a series if their main character artist lacked the range to accommodate a variety of character types or story tones
Funny of you to say this when XC3's designs have zero range.
He did a decent job with 3, but I miss the variety and flair of 2 (hit and miss as it was)
lgbt and bmwf shit
nothing, it mogged FFXVI btw.
boring plot and characters, bad class system. having a full party at the beginning of the game is an idea that sounds like a neat trick at first, but the way they executed it just removes a pacing element from the game to its detriment. interminable slog
>Previous thread by this moron was widely ignored apart from a few people calling him out on his homosexualry
>Makes the same one as soon as it 404s
>This time fellow homosexuals come in to agree
I'm not the kind to blame it on americans waking up but honestly what gives
Enel discorders waking up
Its xenobladegays and their popularity autism, they want to pretend this game is superhated instead of ignored
It was pretty good
Some things the other games did better (namely some VFX/SFX and design decisions in 2) but XB3 is still my favorite since it has probably the best side content of any Xenoblade game, the strongest character writing and an actual class system that I like (I felt like the Affinity trees in 2 were maybe too homogenous for proper party crafting)
It was a shitty sword art online romance with Not Kirito and Not Asuna where everything was sacrificed to prop it up.
Only difference is in this case everyone hated Not Kirito because he's basically an actual spineless b***h and wasn't even bothering to hide it.
Best thing about it is that Rex got the actual true harem that fulfills the condition of sex with at least three or more women.
>muh harem
kys gooner, you ruined the neighborhood
This.
The game had an interesting world and it threw it out the window as soon as the first chapter finishes.
Not on PS5
FFXVI is XB3 on PS5 though
XB3 has issues but it's head and shoulders above what FF16 is putting out for the player
I don't really even fault FF16 for that, it's clear the devs wanted to sort of just create this narrow and focused story. I just htink it's funny they included this in-game wiki for players. Like, who the frick is getting confused in a story that has, at most, 10 present characters?
>Game desperately tries to reach the emotional heights of previous entries
(I did fricking love this scene though)
Man they all look like a bunch of self-centered, obnoxiously loud, 8th graders I see loitering around the neighbor's McDonald.
>where the FRICK is the fanservice, I can't believe the designs are woke pozzed trash now, Xeno is RUINED
No one cares about xenogears except some boomer loser who can't let go of MUH PSX NOSTALGIA
In other words you're a secondary zoomer homosexual that only got into the series through Pyra/Mythra lewds and Smash. Thanks for saying it outright and confirming what we all knew.
In other words you're a pretentious boomer thinking outdated nostalgia is anything relevant with people's interest. Go back to your gameboy grandpa, don't project your sexual impotence on the rest of us.
cope, true Xeno chads will continue to enjoy the games while secondary coomer homosexuals like you seethe
Playing gatekeeper is a bit too late and obvious when you're catering to the lowest denominator.
>have some extra sex appeal in one game
>catering to the lcd
Is having sex appeal in your game supposed to be a one-way road for the whole series? Like you always have to meet that bar or go further?
>Same artist who specializes in porn
>But this time has to tone it all the way down
Your argument would have had some merits if everyone didn't see woketards flipping out at XB2 designs.
>has to tone it all the way down
This is like saying Hiroe or Tezuka specialize in porn.
Saitom does do hentai but I would hardly even say it's a specialization. Moreover, Xenoblade designs from them have typically followed a pretty basic pattern: Blades can be skimpy but humans tend to be more modestly dressed. In XB2, Morag and Nia's human form are completely covered up whereas Brighid, Pandoria and Pyra and Mythra all show more skin.
Fanservices are fanservices, contrary to dumb woke's falsified argument, there's no need for logic if you're just going to give the audience eye candy. All that reasoning is just you swinging through semantical hoop trying to justify self censorship, the motivation of which is easily figured by looking at who cried the loudest at fanservice in xb2.
The main issue is how the designs aren't interesting, even if they showed more cleavage and legs it would still look boring.
I actually do agree a bit with this
It would have been nice if each character got their own spin on the kind of design that they were borrowing from the classes. Keep to a handful of key signifiers for each of them and fuse that with the unique elements from the class outfit
That would have been cool.
at least post the actual good designs, homosexual.
Can't see shit captain. Is that supposed to be buttstallion?
>implying all xenoblades are on the same level
Even though I enjoyed 3 I can still admit it wasn't on the same level as the others, same with X story but its gameplay carried.
I think the bigger problem is that 3 absolutely HAD TO stick the landing on story because it wanted to be a sequel/conclusion, and yet was disappointing and half-baked while also having so much of the world be” been there, done that” from 1 & 2. Where as X’s failing at Story can at least be chocked up to a bunch of unresolved cliffhangers and the series transitioning into some massive sprawling open-world that no doubt took a lot of resources to create.
The frick up was allowing the expectations of it being an ending to the trilogy be a thing.
based
Only homosexuals and trannies use "coomer"
Congrats, you just described 3's fanbase. All 4 of them.
>true fans just eat up any slop
Ask me how I know you've got a lifetime membership to Disney+
Are you seriously comparing the uninspired xeno3 designs to fricking xenogears?
>What went wrong with Censorblade Blackedicles
No idea! Didn't support it financially. Also the story was slop that tried to take itself seriously while at the same time the main characters were talking like they were in an MMO vent server discussing classes and respecs.
Then again it follows the formula of good, bad.
>1 amazing
>X total shit
>2 amazing
>3 total shit
Here's hoping for 4?
The story revolves around the two most boring characters ever.
One being a design ripoff of SMT4 protag. Devs just don't really care about this game and it shows.
>Devs pander to troonset-era
>game sells worse because they don't buy anime games or games in general
At least a few shills on Ganker were happy. Not so much that it flopped though.
>game sells worse because they don't buy anime games or games in general
IT sold about as much as XBDE, so I don't really think it's that they were pandering to resetera as much as they WERENT pandering to coomers as much
Mate stop coping. There's no way you're still getting paid to shill such a shit opinion.
>Mate
I will not be spoken to by someone from the commonwealth like this
>Source: my ass
The game is trash. Pyra still gets doujin, meanwhile nothing is there for the new girls in X3. Even coomers can't find a way to coom with those generic dumpster fire.
Source CESA
>Pyra still gets doujin, meanwhile nothing is there for the new girls in X3
I would not use doujin count as the measure of how good a game is. Blue Archive gets more than XB2, I would not say Blue Archive is a better game than XB2
And yet Blue Archive still gets a lot more doujin than more popular gacha like Nikke despite being less sexualized, that's because people care about the characters and how unique their designs and personalities feel.
XB2 blew both out of the water. You should've looked closer if you're going to use that as your gotcha, birdbrained fool.
But I never claimed XB2 sold worse
My only claim was XB3 sold about 1.8 million units
Learn2read
Ganker is not ~~*(you*~~)
Didn’t realize there was such a gap between Three Houses and Engage, damn.
The trannies in kotaku even declared it their victory.
Funny way of saying you're delusional.
>The trannies in kotaku even declared it their victory.
That's my favorite part about all this. The troons and lefties are clearly happy that they won, and then you have some pathetic homosexuals in this thread larping as "oldgays/fans of the series" trying to claim that the censorship we saw with our lying eyes isn't real.
I'm surprised that one dickhead who always says "prove that they censored it" hasn't arrived yet.
They tried not to be obvious but the rainbow-jellied-haired weirdos aren't known for their subtleties. They're caught red-handed gloating for how many times now.
"These other delusional morons agree with me" is not the winning argument you think it is.
He has a point, you don't. Simple as.
I really liked it.
It's fun
Just remove the menu and chain attack music along with fast travel resetting the area theme (it’s not just because fast travel resets time, go try it in a keves colony and the day theme will restart even if you fast travel at daytime) and that would get me to shut up about the music not being good.
Rest in Piss
Get woke, go broke
>get woke, sell 1.8 million copies
pretty good money considering what these games cost to make
>when we sell less copies than the previous installment and taint the IP in the process, we win
Okay Mister Canadian.
>I want infinite growth all the time
By that rationale, FF9 is a worse game than FF8 and FF should always be obsessed with moronic Nojima-isms because those games sell best
>FF9 is a worse game than FF8
It is.
>taint the IP in the process
XC2 did that years before XC3 even existed.
I hate it.
Nothing
What is this hate boner for Taion about? He's unironically the best character in the game.
Insecurity and fear
>He's unironically the best character in the game.
Not exactly setting a high bar here.
I don't know how anyone can think XB3 is censored or desexualized. It's certainly less present than in 2 but that's just because of the change in tone, you don't have the fricking blushy crushy scenes either.
But Eunie is still incredibly stacked and wears a skintight top the whole game, M's armour has her entire ass hanging out, Ethel's breasts are honestly distractingly jiggly in every scene she has and she even turns into a e-girl later, etc.
People started thinking XB2 was going to be the standard for the rest of the series because it sold better than the previous titles by a lot.
If that were the case, the series would be artistically dead because it would just end up the way Persona is now, where anything that was popular just comes back as a mandatory feature or element and the series just becomes a katamari ball of ideas based on what sells (instead of what the creator actually wants)
Maybe because most of us aren't newbies who think this joke of a low bar fanservice is anything worth calling fanservice at all? I mean, you have to be really horny or be mentally illed to get off women wearing what we see in everyday real world.
Well it's a hell of a lot more fanservice than XB1 had, or any of the other past Xeno games save for maybe KOS-MOS. And if you really do see women dressed like M every day please tell me where you live.
You just admitted the only video games you ever played are three Xenoblade, fricking tourist.
If you like realism so much why not go touch grass outside, weirdo? Stop trying to enforce reality standard in fiction.
>you have to be super horny or mentally ill to get off on a voluptuous woman wearing a skintight bodysuit
Do you hear yourself? If the only thing that can get you going is absurdly overexaggerated designs like Pyra's I think that's a mental illness on your part. The fact that a design like Eunie's looks real and believable makes it hotter.
All I read from this is you being unable to tell reality from video games. Take meds.
They're a mix of /misc/ morons and Enel cultists trying to paint 2 as the magnum opus of the series by bringing down every other entry. They will do it with the next game, and the game after that, like they have with 1, X and 3.
Not to mention a e-girl in a skintight suit with Segiri and her colony but the shitposters didn't play that far, if they even played the game at all.
Cute butts with her outfit
I played the original because the story and combat looked interesting. I played X2 because of the coom. I don't regret playing either they were fun. But nothing about X3 picks my interest.
nothing. you're just a moron homosexual.
i like xc3 a lot but i think some of the choices it made in terms of the worldbuilding for narrative cohesion are a bit weird from a gameplay perspective, the entire world feels very bland (which was probably done intentionally since there's little/no civilization besides the city) but it's a bad contrast after 1 and 2 had such dynamic and interesting worlds, at the absolute least the world could've LOOKED more interesting, you spend half of the game in generic grass area. theres also the whole thing where a lot of the world is supposed to be destroyed because of the annihilation events, but why did that just leave the generic grassy areas and not much else lol
also the fact that the base game felt insanely afraid to make references so you could start at 3 sucked, just commit to having it be a direct sequel
>also the fact that the base game felt insanely afraid to make references so you could start at 3 sucked, just commit to having it be a direct sequel
This drove me crazy
>start at 3 sucked, just commit to having it be a direct sequel
I prefer it this way instead of having to have the previous games as reference to understand anything
beyond hurting sales potential, I just prefer self-contained and complete stories so I'd rather have 3 just be able to start and finish on its own terms instead of requiring 1 and 2 (which were also self-contained stories) for context to understand anything
Do it one way or the other, just don’t try to do both at once
But it is just one way
It’s a self contained game. Of the people I’ve seen start with 3, nobody was confused by references to other characters or events from the prior game because there’s barely any in the core story. There are things that people who know about the prior two games will recognize but nothing that the plot hinges
Its like the dragon quest trilogies
nah it's stupid to make it that much of a standalone when one of the main points was "it's the merging of the worlds of 1 and 2" and then does absolutely frick all with it. the expansion story works fine as a standalone too but is still tied into the other two games.
you can do both at once, it just needs to be executed well. xbc3 wasn't
Eunie cowgirls her anus on Taion's penis btw
She also pegs him with love
>best Xenoblade 2 doujin artist is back at it again
Xenoblade 2Bros, can we EVER stop winning?
They're perfect for each other
4k 60fps remaster when?
Ethel should have been a part of the main party. She almost is. She could have taken on the Dunban esque mentorship role and helped guide us along.
Instead, they kill her off, but not really because she comes back, but in a way where she's essentially a different person. But also the same.
I think i mostly just wanted a more dedicated ascension quest for her and cammuravi
I haven't read a single post in this thread and have no idea if it's a schizo/shitpost one.
Regardless, I just want to say: love me cats.
Every xeno thread started with a pic of a title screen or box art is a schizo shitpost thread
same
I liked it 🙂
>Set 12 years after XC1 and 2
>Yet most of the traits of the other races are bred out in one generation
>They create god machines with no industrial base across TWO UNIVERSES in the same timespan
>Nia is a queen for some reason. Despite showing no royal background...AT ALL. And no, eating a random noble's kid doesnt count.
>The entire game takes place in a VR chat room
>Two universes decide to be a bunch of buttholes and make other people take part in a forever war because...uhhhhh
XC3 feels like it was forced to be the sequel nobody asked, monolith should have made it a stand alone title instead.
Or they could have done the crossover that people fricking wanted from the start. It felt like the Fog King was supposed to be the big set up villain for XC3 BUT IT WAS FRICKING NOOOOOOTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG! A whole DLC dedicated to it, then it runs off, alluding to something. Oh wait! ITS JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE PALLET SWAPPED MONSTERS IN THE VRCHAT ROOM THAT WAS XC3!
>Or they could have done the crossover that people fricking wanted from the start
If XB3 was just the Shulk And Rex Power Hour, I'd have been very disappointed.
I wanted XB3 to be mostly self contained with its own cast, themes, villains and story structure. I do not want Xenoblade to become Nintendo's FF7 Compilation
You could say the same about XB2
And XB1 was technically a standalone title, as was XBX
I think it's probably for the best that the series doesn't ever have a Xenoblade 2-2 or the like just because certain games become breakout successes
>You could say the same about XB2
Aside from some minor references XC2 never forced a tie-in to XC1 plotline.
And XB3 didn't either.
That's my point, the Xenoblade series, as a whole, has each game be a mostly standalone story with some callbacks to the other games but nothing that's plot critical. They share the same space but they don't require each other to be understood, like how the Dragon Quest trilogies work. DQ4-6 share certain elements on account of taking place in the same world but you don't need to have played 4 and 5 to understand 6. Same with DQ1-3
>And XB3 didn't either.
Did you even finish XC3? I'm not saying you need to play the previous titles to understand its plot but the game was forced to be an "epic trilogy conclusion" instead of finishing off as its own thing.
Forced in what way? Are you talking about the Photo or the way the game was advertised or something else?
don't bother replying to obvious trolls
3 plot is dependant on 2 and 1 so it can't be considered a standalone title like 2 or X which are fully divorced from 1 aside from minor references.
this is like saying 1 and 2 are plot dependent on knowing what happened in Klaus' world and the lead-up to why he did the experiment
The point is you get all the necessary details in the game itself. You don't need to know everything from 1 and 2, just what the game itself tells you
>it doesn’t matter that the game isn’t what the creator told everyone it was going to be
Frick off homosexual. Don’t promise and tease you can’t deliver. XC3 is a glorified filler episode, that’ll have pretty much everything relevant that happened summed up in a couple lines in the next game that ACTUALLY takes place in the new world.
>people spamming about how hated the newest xenoblade game is
it's like im back in 2017
It's one incredibly deranged schizo who has been doing it since the day 3 was announced.
Hell, he was probably doing it about 2 too but just switched targets.
He did, he loves going "Xenoblade 2/3 is Ganker's most hated game", and calling 2 Xenofederation Force/Tales of Xenoblade or similar shit
>it's announced Sony is going multiplat
>suddenly the xenoblade shitposter comes back and spams back-to-back threads seething
Really gets the noggin joggin. Can't wait for these threads to go quiet once Eric is distracted by Famitsu threads tomorrow.
XB3 + future redeemed is the best XB game btw, keep being mindbroken.
>XB3 + future redeemed
I think it really depends on what you want, and I'd even put FR and Torna as their own games for how different they are from their main-games.
Like I knew people who loved Torna despite disliking 2 more than 1, or people who like FR because it polishes certain elements from 3's combat and is a crossover adventure more than its own self-contained story
My experience is the games iterate on the things I like more and more each time, so I've ended up liking the newest games the most though I do like 3 more than FR, but some of that is just due to how much bigger 3 is
MOMMY
One of her early scenes is quite funny because the camera sits at chest level while she walks with the party and I'm convinced her breasts have more jiggle than Pyra or Mythra's did in 2. Like it reminded me more of PErun's levels of buoyancy
That's irrelevant considering she's not meant to be sexually attractive, or as zoomers say she's "safe horny".
>she's not meant to be sexually attractive
Based on what?
>she's not meant to be sexually attractive
MILF with skintight outfit is pretty attractive to me tbh.
It's funny because she's one of the only characters in the story confirmed to actually have had sex, aside from Grey, N/M and Nia
she even has a dedicated MILF hunter in her younger brother-in-law
>skintight outfit
You don't even know what that means, she's wearing a generic military outfit and barely shows any skin, big boobs are enough for you?
The front is tight and the butt is tight.
>and barely shows any skin
Never implied she did.
There's nothing sexual about that, do you pop a boner every time you see a woman with big breasts walking down the street?
Reminder you do not get paid to do this. You spend hours of your day talking shitposting games you hate, for free.
You don't?
>every time you see a woman with big breasts walking down the street?
Yes
And the fact that she has belts right over and under her breasts is meant to accentuate them (from a design perspective, I know practically it's probably just meant to restrict loose cloth)
They're purposefully accentuating her breasts with that design, that's why they have the outfit curve under
HNNNNNNGGGGGG
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>troons are really trying to convince people that this prudish design is sexy
>don't believe your lying eyes goy
lol
lmao even
GOD DAMN
If this design was in a western game you would meme on it for years but it's okay when Nintendo does it
Based
XB3 flopped Enel.
XB2 and XB3 are so bad that we usually pretend they don't exist.
Watch as the safehorny shill completely shuts up now!
SEXO
The IP counter was at 71 until
posted. You're samegayging lol
You can easily tell the 3gay is samegayging by installing GankerX, he does this every thread.
I'd be livid too if the market decided that my game pandering to troons and lefties failed.
This. He's getting more desperate than ever now that his game has been ultimately confirmed to be the worst game in the series and the worst RPG of all time.
This. XB3 completely killed Takahashi's credibility as a writer and game director. XB4 is dead in the water.
Based Monica enjoyers driving the resident schizo mad.
HOT. HOT.
>not a new IP
>You don't even know what that means
Ironic.
Compare pic related with
>Outfit that conforms to the body
versus
>Outfit that conforms to the body
:thumbsup:
>Outfit that conforms to the body
With this logic any woman with big breasts is unwillingly sexualizing herself, a skintight outfit is specifically designed to be skintight
is not a skintight outfit.
You say that as if a t-shirt carries the same connotations as a... combat leotard and vest? I think? Tighter would be better in combat for agility
XB3 flopped ;^)
You can literally see the depression of her navel it's absolutely skintight moron.
>IS THAT A SEE THROUGH NAVEL
>ON A FULLY CLOTHED
>STRONG INDEPENDENT
>MIDDLE AGED WOMAN
>IM GONNA COOOOOOOOOM
You woke troons keep shilling this "safe horny" moronation as if it's gonna catch up some day
Please explain how you can see the navel if the clothing isn't skin tight.
You're screaming about tourists and troons while using twitter buzzwords, have a nice day homosexual.
If you think that's what a "generic military outfit" your brain has been ruined by porn. Even IDF prostitutes don't dress that loose.
How the frick is Monica dressed loose? Her uniform isn't sexualized she just has big boobs.
good lord these are some massive bobs
yeah she's pure sex
Hw did they get away with this.
Based nintendo being based again. Wish I could tell the same for sony honestly.
She's pretty late-game and you can't see her early on like with Rare Blades.
It's like Segiri's skin-tight body suit, you can't really see it until way late in the game
Cope Enel, XB3 is unanimously agreed to be worse than even Saga 2. It's the worst RPG released this decade.
but I really like Saga 2.
It was the only Xeno game we ever got until Blade was released.
No actual towns. All with their architecture reflecting a region or country you're in, with their own culture and music.
The shity is just that, the shity, and boring as frick, and don't even get me started at the sameycamps. At least they got the NPCs right, but that's far from sufficient.
A jRPG without various different cities is soulless. Simple as that.
>called XenoBLADE
>theres barely anything particularly special about the sword unlike the monado and aegis
You mean aside from it being one of the only remaining tools to destroy flame clocks, potentially carrying the souls of people close to Shulk and being forged by Melia herself?
just a strong sword wowie. The Monado is part of a demigod. The Aegis is Xeno Jesus. The sword in 3 is just a strong sword.
>just a strong sword wowie
reductive
>The Monado is part of a demigod. The Aegis is Xeno Jesus
and now intellectually disingenuous
I could just as easily say the monado is just a really strong sword + future vision and the Aegis is also just a really strong sword + future vision, but I assumed you were arguing in good faith
It was fine and you're a stupid homosexual.
Forget about XC3, where is my fricking xenoblade X2?
>Xenoblade XX will be installment 20
>Xenoblade XXX will be Takahashi's canon porn game
The world being some sort of mashup between XC1's & 2's worlds made it more boring and uninteresting to me, the worlds were one of the main attraction points for me in these games and they fricked it up, should've made something all-new and way out there again, then loosely tied to 1 & 2 in the final quarter of the game like 2 did with 1
Gameplay was only so-so, like it didn't feel like an upgrade from 2 to me, maybe even a bit worse while 2 was a major improvement from 1, kind of a let-down
The start of the game sucks ass. Boring area with nothing but grass & rocks, locked down exploration into yet again boring, wide open desert zone with a shitton of walking around but no mount or anything to help navigating this sort of terrain. World just sucks in general, the camps / settlements are too small, the "battlefields" do not feel as such and so on. The world you explore doesn't feel like it matches the story, it's off.
Characters were kind of bland & boring to me. Maybe because they all have the same "boo hoo child soldier dying quick" background with some personality variation rather than the truly varied and mixed up parties of 1 & 2. Being able to frick about with classes to the degree you can also made them all kind of blend together to me even more, I think good game design requires a careful balance between options and restrictions in game systems to make things unique while maintaining depth, but XC3 just felt loosey-goosey and uninteresting to me.
Extremely stupid XP distribution & balancing, like the game gives you sidequests but if you actually do them you overlevel just from the combat along the way even if you don't use the quest XP, then if you're overleveled you're not allowed to unlock new hero classes anymore until you progress to the point of finding higher level mobs. What the actual frick?
I played like 50-60h until I got too bored and dropped it. Maybe I'll give it another try someday.
the most memorable thing about this game is the fact that the mc from the bad game xenoblade 2 had a threesome.
Doubling down on pandering to what was already universally considered the worst game of 2017 descended XB3 into a new dimension of shit.
Is there anything you liked about XB3? Don't answer that, we all know there isn't. There are no positive aspects of Xenotanic 3.
I wish I looked like Monica. My boobs aren't nearly big enough
Simple, the same thing that's wrong with XB2. Its connected to the other games when it really, REALLY, didn't need to be. (less of a problem for XB2, but still an issue I have with its story.)
its kind of why I love XBX's story so much compared to XB2 and XB3, because its not fricking connected to XB1.
A moronic story so unnecessary they had to retroactively mess with the first two games to justify its existence, which diminished both of them.
The only retcons was for XC1 with shit like Alvis' key turning into a core crystal, 2 and 3 were planned together.
No they weren’t, in 3’s early designs the heroine clearly wasn’t Nia’s kid. Takahashi probably had a generic idea of forcing the worlds to merge and then burying them to resume his Perfect Works homosexualry, but I refuse to think a story as sloppy as XC3 was some master stroke that was in planning since what? 2014?
XC2 "fans" when they deny Monica has a good design
I didn't care to get far enough in to know who the frick Monica is. But if she's a character in 3 she has a bad design in a bad game.
trying too hard to make it appealing for "first time players" by having very little actual connection to the first two games. The DLC is what the main plot should have been focused on.
Try again moron
Oops didn't mean to reply to you
I would tie all of you spread eagle on your beds than shut down your computer
3 just feels so unmemorable and like fanfiction
It's not just unmemorable, it's series-killingly abominable and like the Sonic 06 of Xeno.
Calm the frick down. You’re either too desperate for a reaction, or falseflagging.
Is this your first Xenoblade thread? Falseflagger-kun goes hard for hours he doesn't sleep
Why is xhe... the way xhe is?
He's been doing this for 7 years now, how has no one doxxed him yet
It's unmemorable because they wanted to appeal to people who hate Japan for some weird fricking reason.
XB3 might be more anti-Japanese and western pandering than most pozzed western AAA slops combined.
Takahashi legitimately despises his Japanese culture. I wonder if the next Xeno game will be full-on TLOU with lesbian and trans pandering aswell as no sexiness ever again.
Enel is desperate, like we said.
>Takahashi legitimately despises his Japanese culture
that's why lucky 7 is a katana and the arts all have japanese kanji for symbols and noah is basically an idealized bushido samurai, complete with morality ruminations
Then why is the game so woke and western?
Frick off shill. Everyone on this board hates every aspect of XB3
I don't
>Then why is the game so woke and western?
It's not.
Just because the game lacks the level of sexuality in some of its cast's character designs that XB2 had doesn't mean it's woke and western
IF you look at the designs for 1, X and 3, you'd see that 2 is the aberration for how front-and-center it puts its more overtly sexual character design. Not that that's a bad thing but it's just not necessarily the standard with these games. Fiora is sporting a mini skirt and Sharla's core design is around a tube top and daisy dukes but they aren't really the focus as much in advertising or cover art stuff as 2.
X has tons of fan-service'y optional outfits but the default outfits for most characters are more in line with what XB3 is rocking (which tracks given that the cast of both series are servicemen/women).
I don't think you'd call XBX woke or western in its design if it came out after 2. Hell, even if 2 was the first game in the series, you wouldn't call 1's designs woke/westernized?
>Just because the game lacks the level of sexuality in some of its cast's character designs that XB2 had doesn't mean it's woke and western
Stopped reading here. You're gaslighting. You need to go back.
Tell me how this game fits your narrative and not the other anon's
why do you reply to obvious low quality bait?
It's not like he had to make the post in the first place. To achieve a dialogue, both sides need to communicate, and thus reactions can be forged to counter opposing opinions. Bait posts are still posts, even if they serve little to no purpose
>You're gaslighting
You're asserting the the ONLY reason a game can tone down sexuality compared to a prior entry is because it's gone woke or is trying to appeal to the west.
It may not be the only reason but it's a very real one, look at what's happening at Capcom or Sega for example and we already know Nintendo localizers are woke since they openly admit it on their Twitter bios.
>everything I don't like is part of a global conspiracy to hurt me
How tiring a life you must live.
>It may not be the only reason but it's a very real one
My point is that, shy of being told it directly or having evidence that contradicts the official explanation, I'm not in the habit of fabricating rationales for actions because I dislike the direction the creators took something in.
Tekken's devs (and I think RGG's too?) have outright admitted they changed character designs to account for localizers' feedback. I hate that shit but I'm not going to extrapolate that to every game in the industry that lacks bikinis or the like for characters because sometimes devs just don't want to have them for their own reasons. I try to avoid conclusions without hard evidence or incredible amounts of circumstantial evidence that can't otherwise be accounted for
That's fine but it doesn't change the fact that XC3 character design is safe and homogenized, it could technically be for gameplay related reasons (the class swap system forcing unisex designs for example) but that doesn't make it any better. Why do you think places like Kotaku and Resetera praised the game when it came out? They don't care about the game or the Xeno fanbase this is just another proxy culture war for them.
I don't care about whoever fricks say on the internet.
You think you're better than people who do care?
I am.
>okay just because it's happening in literally every franchise
>and that leftists are getting more and more emboldened
>does not mean that it's happening this time
>I'm totally a based fence sitter and not a lefty whose glad this is happen
You've opened my eyes. Gonna go buy this slop and the dlc.
My entire point is you can't use a trend to jump to conclusions on every case you suspect something is happening
It functionally becomes McCarthyism where some real soviet espionage becomes an excuse to make accusations based on paranoia or bad-faith intent
You judge things on a case-by-case basis, not based on trends that you're trying to make the evidence fit to
>You judge things on a case-by-case basis
This is exactly what people are doing though, there's plenty of precedent and Nintendo of Japan has confirmed they listen and modify games based on localizers input.
>https://www.neogaf.com/threads/nintendo-admits-animal-crossing-gender-changes-due-to-wokeness-and-talks-other-changes.1533408/
Not to mention all the obvious fanservice edits in XCX or Fire Emblem.
and?
That’s not case by case tho. What FE and XCX dealt with could be distinct from what XC3 deals with. The censorship that the local branch applies to games after the fact is not incriminating evidence that the Japanese branch built those critiques into their games from the start
Same company, same localization team, same franchise, why would it be any different when all evidence points to the obvious?
Because the devs themselves said the outfit change was due to the more serious tone of the story. So you’d have to sit here and say that the team is lying, which you haven’t had reason to suspect in the past with prior statements turning out to be lies.
There’s no precedent to suspect that Monolith Soft cares much for the opinions of localizers in their design process. The idea that they’re woke and pandering to the west now is the same type of theory that Xenoblade 1 “isn’t anime” because the original models aren’t cel shaded or have more pronounced lips than is typical of anime art styles, in contradiction to what the devs themselves said during interviews
>There’s no precedent to suspect that Monolith Soft cares much for the opinions of localizers
Fuuuuug why did you make me remember that
Stop believing your lying eyes goy. It's not happening but if it were it's a good thing and it's not a big deal.
How does this affect you?
What got changed in XB2?
Besides the horrible voice acting
Iirc lots of religious references
A lot of dialogue was altered to be less "problematic", especially Poppy's.
So you’re telling me that the localizers are powerful enough to do this but then let XB2 go through? They do not seem to be very consistent in how they censor shit then
>discord troon can't believe the evidence in front of him
No wonder you people think men can become women.
>no wonder you [headcanon]
>anon cannot explain how localizers censored one game but failed to censor the one that came right after it
By all accounts, they would have had the same opportunities to do so
>anon cannot explain how localizers censored one game
But they did, you simply choose to not watch the video posted.
But that's how censorship normally would go? First run slips through then close the gaps for the next one.
Okay so we’re of the opinion that every game after 1 is censored? XB2 is pozzed?
You need to learn japanese and play the original version if you don't want censored slop.
No just 3
Iirc xb2 was a very small team and kinda snuck through while the main team was working on zelda. Without oversight it's easy to think they would get by even though some censorship (pyra boob jiggle) was made to appeal to cero
>Because the devs themselves said the outfit change was due to the more serious tone of the story
Did they actually say the designs were muted for story reasons or is that just inferred?
Three Houses is a juggernaut. I doubt it will ever hit that high again.
It’s from an interview with the devs in the official Nintendo website
https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-6-xenoblade-chronicles-3-part-2/
Interesting, thanks for the source king.
Of course
I think Nintendo has the best dev interviews, the old Iwata Asks about XB1 are fascinating too
I’m upset we didn’t get more stuff during the media rollout for XB2
Sena SEXOOOOO
Nta but wouldn't any censorship in the American games would need to be approved by the head company in Japan?
Not necessarily. Responsibilities for green lighting projects and regional versions of games would come down to the head of the regional office. For instance, which games even get localized would have to get Reggie’s advocacy back in the day, operation rainfall was needed. The Japan office wasn’t the one that decided that Europe would get Xenoblade but America wouldn’t, that was all on NoA (and why they tried to get involved more with XBX and kind of botched it)
You’d also see different series get focus altogether if NoA or NoE had that much influence
Ot but kinda glad Reggie put a hold on mother 3 tbh
>It functionally becomes McCarthyism
Except McCarthy was right, lefty.
McCarthy was literally American Goebbels
he didn't know that.
He was also right.
He wasn't a nazi or are you implying all republicans are nazis? You don't like him because he hated commies? His suspicion wasn't unfounded considering the soviets were factually spying and sabotaging America.
>what is: all opposing sides committing espionage in human history?
As a communist, what did you think of Xenoblade
As a libertarian, I like it. All four installments
He was right that there was attempts from the Soviet Union to Infiltrate America
He was wrong 90% of the time in terms of who was actually part of those infiltration attempts and accusing someone of being a Soviet because they weren’t a diehard supporter of whatever the government was doing in foreign countries is what McCarthyism is.
the Hispanic wouldn't know that.
>He was right that there was attempts from the Soviet Union to Infiltrate America
He was right in that they infiltrated every fricking institution and have spent the last several decades rotting us from the inside.
That's what I hate about you homosexuals.
>it's not happening
>it's not a big deal
>okay so what if it is happening?
You expect us to ignore our eyes by feigning that you're arguing in good faith. You have no idea how much I hate you and your kind.
I'm just happy that the game did bad in sales and you can't discuss it on Ganker.
I have maintained that it's not happening (happening meaning that xenoblade has gone woke or is westernized)
I've not once suggested that it's happening
>okay so what if it is happening?
where did I say it was happening?
Nobody is saying ALL designs need to be sexualized, neither X or 1 were neutered and the existence of sexy outfits like swimsuits or bunnygirl make it obvious they weren't "woke" either.
Okay, then by that same rationale, the existence of Monica's design or Segiri's dimorphic outfit or even just Eunie's tit size would undermine the idea that the game is trying to be woke, no? Or the swimsuit DLC for 3, for that matter
>Segiri's dimorphic outfit
She's fully clothed
>Eunie's tit size
Just having big breasts means sexualization now?
>Monica's design
lol
lmao even
>She's fully clothed
what does that have to do with anything?
>Just having big breasts means sexualization now?
The character was made by a person who could have given her small or no breasts. So yes, choosing to give characters big, noticeable breasts and outfits that conform to those bodies is a form of sexualizing characters
Pyra's outfit, even if you covered up most of the bare-skin portions, would still be pretty sexual just by how it conforms to her body (whereas the Gormotti hood hides most of her body shape)
Shionne from Arise shows more skin than Segiri's outfit does, but Eunie in that outfit is MUCH more sexualize than Shionne
>Choosing to give characters big breasts is sexualization
I wish nature hadn't sexualized your mom the way it did. If it had chosen to give her small breasts, I wouldn't have had to frick that dried out old hag.
>Choosing to give characters big breasts AND putting them in an outfit that accentuates them and conforms to their body is sexualization
Yes
You're right that giving a character big breasts, by itself, is not a form of conscious sexualization
But throwing that same character into a compression body suit when her other female party members are in a tank top or a spaghetti strap blouse, I don't think it's unfair to say that the decision to put the party member with the biggest breasts in an outfit that accentuates and conforms to them was intended to be sexually charged as a design
How is Monica wearing a compression body suit? You saw a navel and started acting like she's a Hooters girl?
Not Monica, eunie
3 also has swimsuits, including an actual bikini for Eunie whereas 2 just had a bunch of tame one pieces.
>I don't think you'd call XBX woke or western in its design if it came out after 2. Hell, even if 2 was the first game in the series, you wouldn't call 1's designs woke/westernized?
They absolutely would. These people are just secondaries who hopped onto Xenoblade after seeing some Pyra art thinking it's just a singleplayer version of their favourite skinnerbox gacha game. They have no interest in Xenoblade itself and nothing to live for beyond looking at anime breasts so that's the only feature they judge games by.
>Be 15
>brother dies leaving a widow
>woo her right after he's dead
uuhh.. based???
I'm starting to believe there is more than one schizo in both factions
Is this what the average /vg/ thread looks like?
Nah, /xgg/ has like, 3 posts, then stagnation for 30+ minutes
It's literally confirmed to be Enel samegayging
whilst us actual sane and collected anti-XB3 folk have legitimate and detailed discussions about how bad the gravestone that is XB3 is.
if a janny woke up and deleted the samegay schizos spam I wonder how many posts they'd get
>Those small slender shoulders and hip ratio
Imagine tugging SEXna pigtail while banging her hard.
Enel is so desperate that he's literally just spamming screenshots lol. Our most hated game of 2022, ladies and gentlevirgins!
Based BTFOing of forced positivity for this atrocity
I don't like the way Sena is looking at me...
That side ponytail and small body. God dammit
FRICK!!!!
Enough about Xenoblade 3's wrongs.
Let's talk about it's rights.
I like how it was a commentary about accepting the past, but not being restricted by it and choosing to walk forward despite everything
>Let's talk about it's rights.
Of which there are universally agreed to be none. Every single aspect of XB3 is the worst shit ever.
>Universally agreed
I just gave an example as to how that is not universal
Fell flat, because ‘ZOMG KOS-MOS tease!’
Takahashi clearly can’t let go his own past, so why the frick does he get preach about it to others?
I like how moebius isn't actually all that powerful or tough, they mostly rely on the flame clocks to dominate colonies
Like, we know that, at least in theory, some Heroes (Ethel and Cammuravi) and some city citizens (Matthew, probably Na'el) could deal with Moebius consuls. The main thing is they basically have to build in a kill switch and expiration date on all Soldiers to keep them in line. Moebius is mostly about soft-power and using tools to keep the world under their thumb, rather than them being super super powerful on the individual level
>I like how the villains are lame homosexuals that somehow ruled two worlds completely for centuries
They ruled over the worlds because they used tools and systems and the control of information to keep everyone in their place.
Like, Moebius shares more in common with the Combine from HL. They use the erasure of history, controlling the population growth rate, completely dictating incentives and reward structures, and tying soldiers lives to the flame clocks to dominate the world.
>The Combine
>completely ignores that the Combine had sheer might on their side that they struck with first to to back up the internal subversion afterwards.
Hit too close to him for you?
Suck a dick
have a nice day enel
have a nice day Emile
For as much of disappointment as the ending and final dungeon was, the end of Chapter 5 and start of Chapter 6 is the absolute peak of the entire series and I especially like how it builds off the tropes established in the earlier games. In any other RPG I would not care about the threat of Mio dying or the City getting blown up because stuff like that is always a bait and switch, but Xenoblade has not fricked around with it before which added way more weight to the situation and an incredible feeling of relief when it was averted.
Go fricking suck your dad's wiener Enel
What?
The character writing and party dynamics are fantastic compared to the other two games. Even Sena who gets the short end of the stick in terms of development has more going on than half the cast in 1 or 2. Even most of the hero characters do too.
XB3 did nothing right despite what you want to damage control
Easily my favorite game of all time. Extremely good story and character writing that had me absolutely enthralled at the emotional climax of the story. Paired amazing gameplay and world design that almost never disappointed. There was one small pacing problem near the end where it turns into a scavenger hunt across the world and the entire sequence is superfluous, but that's only 1 hour compared many tens hours of the game being a riveting experience. With plenty of side quests and content spread throughout the world there is easily several hundred hours worth of content to enjoy. I highly recommend giving the game a try.
But enough about Xenoblade Chronicles 1. I really hated Xenoblade Chronicles 3.
Based subversion and BTFOing of the forced positivity.
Shill detected. XB3 is woke and shows Takahashi's worship of Western AAA culture.
Frick off. The Sonic 06 of Xeno deserves no rehabilitation.
I wasn't an RPG guy until I saw this game, and really wanted to try it out. Now here I am with over 300 hours into the game without a single regret. I have now purchased every single installment in the series and am still currently playing through them. This game's story is incredible, and I absolutely love the character cast. They're so loveable. This is a must play RPG.
It has SOVL. Wish I could say the same about FF16, what a disappointing game.
This might be the most fantastic all-around Xenoblade game I’ve experienced so far. Combat system, characterization of the main cast, music, story progression, all of which are great. Italso has one of the most memorable endings I’ve ever seen in JRPGs.
I've been playing video games since the days of Final Fantasy 1, and I've seen a lot of them come and go. But Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is one of the best I've ever played. The story is gripping, the characters are memorable, and the world is absolutely stunning. I could spend hours just exploring the different areas and taking in the sights.
>chatGPT response
>XB3 hater folk have calm, cool, collectedd, detailed deep-dives as to the myriad flaws of the game, which is now considered to be the worst in the series with nary a single redeeming quality to its name
>XB3 fanboys blatantly raid in from Enel's discord to samegay the same "DUUURRR WELL ME LIKE GAME CUS *insert MCU shit here*"
As if there was any doubt, that XB3 is the worst piece of fiction to grace mankind.
Legit. All XB3 fans are literally bots now!
If you suck a game off this hard, regardless of whatever game it is. Hell, any media. You just need to crucified.l for the betterment of the gene pool.
Pictured: XB3's entire remaining fanbase
Why would you want to cosplay as any character from the worst RPG of the 2020s???
It has SEXna, It has SOUL.
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is the best game in the Xenoblade franchise, and the best game bearing the "Xeno" brand since Xenogears. This near-masterpiece features the most original and compelling narrative in a Xeno title since Xenogears, with rich themes, a timeless cast of characters, and the strongest battle system yet in a Xenoblade game
Holy shit Enel's discord is literally just copypasting ChatGPT responses lmaoooo
What did you expect from people who unironically like what is confirmedly proven to be the Sonic 06 of the series?!
A masterpiece. I finished the game and it was wonderful from start to finish. Touching moments. A beautiful soundtrack. Fluid gameplay. I prefer this style of controls and character advancement over XC2. XC2 was ackward and clunky. XC3 was exquisite
Phenomenal. Some of the story beats here are among the strongest in the series, and the gameplay is once again the best yet. Only thing holding it back from a 10 is a lack of development to some story beats, and a pretty unpleasant final boss battle.
addictive combat system and a story that keeps you hooked on the screen for most of its development. The game is unbeatable until it reaches a certain point in the story, where it feels unnecessarily lengthened and the climax that had been worked on throughout the game deflates. The soundtrack is a delight and there is content for hours of fun. As a negative point, I don't like the decision to limit the obtaining of classes if you are above the level of the story, it seems to me a vague way to control the extra leveling and it hurts players who like to squeeze all the content out of as the story progresses.
Enel's discord could not be more obvious lol
The only people who like Xenotanic 3 are A) Resetera, B) Kotaku, and C) Enel's discord. We, the sane Xeno fans, universally refer to is as the worst thing to ever happen to the seires.
good characters. Very nice battle system. Easy to understand game mechanics with the option of a) re-viewing tutorial or b) using the "training" option. The story is awesome. I was absolutely invested.
ChatGPT response yet again lol
You can't hide from us Enel.
>good characters.
true
amazing game that blew my expectations out of the water. The story had me griped the whole time and the detailed combat system was extremely fun to delve into. The characters are one of the things I loved the most about the game as they were fun and meshed with each other very well. The voice acting was also really great and bring life to a lot of scenes. I don’t think I would have enjoyed the game so thoroughly if I hadn’t played xenoblade 1 and 2 before hand but it can still be enjoyed without playing them. Almost forgot to mention the music. That was honestly (as usual with xenoblade) one of the best parts. I also absolutely loved the ending. People who didn’t like it because it “goes against the message” or because it “didn’t make sense” I’m fairly certain were not paying attention when playing the game. It was a perfect end which was shown to be the characters aims from the start of the game.
>this much blatant falseflagging
You're making 3gays look bad bro...
Your bait threads don't work discord troon.
I know, don't feed the trolls and all, but I still have yet to hear a competent reason as to why 3 is hated so. Like, the story was rushed in chapter 6/7? And... That's it? That's the best you got?
Try reading some of the replies to OP
It's not on playstation
Eunied to shut up
Eunie A CUTE.
Cute
i didn't buy it because of the Black person in the cover, i don't know about others
Sena and Lanz needed just one character arc and I've would have been fine.
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Sena's story is much more subtle
Mio was such a great character. She was amazing.
Based, best female lead in a JRPG
Literally can't think of a female lead better than Mio so I agree
I actually don't mind XB3's designs, in fact I prefer them over XB2's constant horny. HOWEVER, that doesn't make the story not dogshit.
Terrible character designs and memberberries aren't a replacement for story.
>the same guy started spamming the censored character designs and talking about the story
Guessing the thread was linked on a troon discord.
No amount of shilling on Ganker translated to sales btw.
>362 posts and no one has posted best girl
nu-Ganker is trash
>hardcores have finished up the Discord going sesh and and are now here to play Positivity Police
Greeeeeeat…
It's fun, Xenoblade 1-3 make up one of the greatest trilogies in all of gaming. They're all great and they all add onto one another wonderfully.
2 > 3 > 1
kys coomer
low quality bait detected
Bait shill detected.
No. It's the worst game many of us have ever played.
What the frick is wrong with you samegay shill?
Nintendo and Monolithsoft as a whole are completely woke now.
>woke
Chronic samegayging
uh oh the doompost narrative isn't catching on, what do we do xisters?
Does anyone else get this weird, altered state feeling when playing Xenoblade games? It's not a good kind of feeling, it's more like being sickly drunk and dosed up on sleep meds. The characters all talk and move in this bizarre, overly drawn out and stilted way. They talk constantly, but you can't really make any sense of what anyone is saying, or why they're saying it. You just sort of float on top of it all and then it's over. I first noticed this with Xenosaga, but the Xenoblade games have taken it beyond the point of absurdity. It's like it was paced / designed to appeal to people who dwell on the slowest wavelength possible, with weird pauses, drawn out shots that mean nothing, awkward scenes of people walking as if in they're in a dream. Was Takahashi trying to create a dreamlike feeling with these games, or is he just that autistic?
I just found it kind of bland and it was too vague on a lot of plot points. Glad we're getting a big shake up with 4
I enjoyed 3 way more than 2. I couldn't even finish 2.
This has nothing to do with anything in the thread, but I just found out X has some High Entia-ish wings available as an accesory, and now I'm interested to see how close I can get to cosplaying as Melia or Eunie in it.
Z pees on A btw
A pees on me btw
Matthew filled her of Beans if you catch my drift.
How many universes worth of sperm has Xenoblade taken from the weeabo at this point
Me diving into the radioactive wasteland that is XC3 hate and realizing they don't have valid arguments for any of their claims, just an echo chamber
>they
It's 1 guy, maybe 2
Safe and Homogenized are real complaints! I think that's a perfectly acceptable critique, that you wish the designs were more out there and exotic and weird. That's a fine and normal thing to complain about
>the class swap system forcing unisex designs for example
The fact that they split designs for Segiri between male and female shows they at least considered having sexually dimorphic outfits. Not all of them would require it, but some do, like Melia's, Nia's, Alexandria's and the like
I mostly just wish the characters would wear the jackets in different ways. Like Eunie's jacket should always be open, Noah's always closed
>Why do you think places like Kotaku and Resetera praised the game when it came out?
First, it's mostly just Jason Schreier from Kotaku. they actually had a rather nice shoutout to it in their Xeno-series retrospective article
Honestly, a lot of it is going to come down to the QOL, polish and voice acting because that makes up 90% of how people experience games. 99% of the praise for FF16 and FF7 Remake is more around the fact that the presentation in cutscenes and voice acting isn't PS1 levels of clunkiness, even if the writing and characters are less compelling than games back then had
For some, it's a proxy war thing, but I wouldn't even say that's the issue of most mainstream outlets these days (especially when 3 has scenes that are basically Abe's Masterplan)
And is this "discord" in the room with us right now, anons?
does XB2s framerate get better after the airship hub or is it bad the whole game
Not really.
The next town you visit (Torigoth) is one of the worst performing areas in the game from what I remember.
Nia's hairy holes are Rex's favourite
Mythra's hairy armpits are Rex's favourite
Nothing. It was kino.
>protags canonically had sex
more games need this.
what's with xeno x looking so much cooler than 2 and 3? it's like it just has better design if not better graphics entirely
X has terrible character designs
The Wii U was a real console instead of a handheld
>better design
If it did then the whole "potato-chan" shit wouldn't have existed.
I just don't like the harem 3 said 2 had and the fact there's no sexy designs like 1 and 2.
Otherwise, 3 is forgettable and not needed either way. 1 and 2 ended fine, we did not need to combine them together.
Watch out you're gonna scare Enel's discord.
Yeah kinda same. Turning it into a harem seemed weird when Nia was always third wheel. Feels like they wanted to distance themselves from 2 through retroactive changes.
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VGH...
>Least autistic Xenoblade pseud
All the Xenoblades are great games
3>X>1>2
uh oh someone will call you enel or a shill for this post
She is literally me
niabros...
I didn't really like how easy the endgame mob fights became once you unlock
>THE TIME IS NOW
Canon ginger bush
look at this cat
I'm more than looking.
I miss xenoblade 1/xenoblade x threads
>another xenoblade thread reaching bump limit
>meanwhile FF16 are dead and buried
fricking KEK that's based, frick this garbage "game"