What went so wrong? It almost killed Square Enix.
Did Yoshi-P just luck out with XIV's success?
What went so wrong? It almost killed Square Enix. Did Yoshi-P just luck out with XIV's success?
What went so wrong? It almost killed Square Enix.
Did Yoshi-P just luck out with XIV's success?
It's just a mediocre game.
It didn't almost kill Square. That's Ganker melodramatic stuff
Spirits Within almost killed Square back in the day.
moron
GUYS
*daily thread*
HOLY FRICK
*hourly thread*
WHAT HAPPENED?
*minutely thread*
LITERALLY NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT
*half-minutely thread*
DID IT KILL SQUARE ENIX?
*secondly thread*
WHAT WENT WRONG
*box-art from first Google Images result*
You will find FF7RB kill SE. the preorder looks pretty bad.
>You will find FF7RB kill SE
higher than XVI's was at this point in time.
>higher than XVI's was at this point in time.
probably on in Japan. it cannot be found in top100 US/UK amazon.
>it cannot be found in top100 US/UK amazon
But enough about XVI's pre-orders months before it came out.
The only people left to buy Rebirth are compilationgays with PS5s, purist fans and people who hated the filler and KH shit have tapped out. Square are gonna learn the hard way that turning 7 into a multiverse of media was a big mistake instead of just doing one well made Remake
I hated the 7 compilation games, but love FF7 Remake though.
>7 into a multiverse of media was a big mistake instead of just doing one well made Remake
Ganker insisted 7remake bombed and people stopped buying it after it came out.
then it kept selling and now you gays switched to 7rebirth as the game that's totally going to bomb.
>console exclusive again
Why do they keep doing this?
Do you see how many copies FF7 RE are sold on PC? PC market cannot save them at this point.
That's mostly due to Epic. If it had released on steam 3 years earlier I'm sure it would have sold decently regardless of quality.
You can buy FF7RE on steam.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1462040/FINAL_FANTASY_VII_REMAKE_INTERGRADE/
Yes, 3 years after the original release, long after everyone lost interest. Stop being illiterate.
>3 years after the original release
2 years.
>long after everyone lost interest
It jumped back up into the top 10 in dollar sales when it released on steam.
there is only 1 year delay for PS5 version.
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1462040/FINAL_FANTASY_VII_REMAKE_INTERGRADE/
ELEASE DATE: Jun 17, 2022
FF7RE
Release
PlayStation 4
April 10, 2020
Intergrade
PlayStation 5
June 10, 2021
Epic
December 16, 2021
review looks very positive but there is no big audiences on PC for them.
FF just doesn't sell very well on PC.
The only people who seem to pick it up on PC are people who used to play it on console and were already into it.
Because Sony keeps dumping money on them and offering to handle all marketing costs.
It's helping Square in the short term, but really hurting the IP in the long term.
So what happened to "Infinity Strash: DRAGON QUEST The Adventure of Dai"
exclusive fee is their only change to survive.
Dragon Quest has always been huge in Japan, but niche everywhere else in the world.
Googled it. This looks like an action game?
Seems a weird choice for a Dragon Quest.
>get sony timed exclusive money
>get EGS exclusive money
>get steam launch money
Square doesn't make games, they make money. Every single decision, whether it's creative or distribution-related, serves that end.
why can't we have an FF thread without Barry?
>Barry
es pablo.
We have plenty of them, Bazztek is hyperfixated on FF16. Hell if it were actually dead he wouldn't be spamming threads about it at all times.
There's been a couple, and they've been pretty nice.
He'd come in very late in the thread then pout when people ignored him to keep talking about what they were already discussing.
Only time you could have had that is when it was “comfy ffxvi” threads it’s like he ignored the word vindy for some reason
>What went so wrong?
your dad forgot to pull out
you can take that moral victory, I'll bask in the fact that FF16 flopped, b***h.
I don't know, daily spams over an obsession with a game you don't like sounds like moronic homosexual behaviour.
FF is just dead as a franchise
b-bros?! is nintendo dead!?
Whenever you have a major release of your flagship product, and your stock tanks not too long after, that means that your product is dead
FF is dead. Only a bunch of boomers are still interested in this dead franchise
>Only a bunch of boomers are still interested in this dead franchise
you seem pretty interested in it if you seethe at it daily.
What's the green bar?
16 is a game made for literally no-one. The boomers over at Squeenix are so out of touch they're trying to appeal to an audience that only exists in their head.
Mogged by BG3, TOTK, elden ring and genshin impact
The least ambitious Final Fantasy...
>market your game with game of thrones shit
>game of thrones shit doesn't even last to the midpoint, game revert to standard killing god plot at the 33% mark
Why did they even bother?
That's what we're stuck with though. Yoshi-P and Nomura are the only ones that have a name at Square at this point. Tabata was kicked to the curb, so everything FF will be from these two unless some new blood comes in.
>pass up multiplat release to be a """system seller""" for a shit console in a gen that nobody cares about beyond the shitch
>don't even make it a real exclusive since everyone and their mother knows it's on pc within the year so that's even less reason to buy it on top of being locked to a garbage console with no exclusives in the present
>sales tank because you took sony's money
>can't even rely on people buying later when you finally get out of the snoy cuck chair since they'd no longer care
>they are doing all of this again with ff7r2
Yoshitpiss's one true sin was caving to whatever senile diaperwearing suit told him to make the game an exclusive in an era where exclusives are dead and gone
>What went so wrong? It almost killed Square Enix.
>ALMOST
It didn't finish the job
Only thing that got truly close was that Spirits Within movie
Aussie got banned again?
>Frick frick fricking bastard money
>Spider-Man sells less copies than XVI
>GOTY GET OWNED CHUDS!
>XVI sells more copies than Spider-Man
>Why did XVI flop….
Spider-Man 2 sold 2.5 million in the first day, though, compared to XVI's 3 million total. Dont' know how many SM2 will sell overall until it's been awhile.
>Spider-Man 2 sold 2.5 million in the first day, though, compared to XVI's 3 million total. Dont' know how many SM2 will sell overall until it's been awhile.
Explain to me why they didnt show 3 day stats for spiderman 2 ? Because it didnt reach 3 million. Also ff16 week 1 sales was like 4 days idiot.
FF16 selling less than Spider-Man 2 is completely expected though.
It's fricking Spider-Man.
Anon, SM2 will sell more and that's okay. It's fricking Spider-Man.
It'll sell less than the 2018 game however.
Because singleplayer games are steadily losing audience to online gays.
Most PS5 owners use it to play fricking CoD, Fortnite, GTA and FIFA.
Pretty much.
People are delusional if they think a Final Fantasy is going to outsell Spider-Man. It took a full week for ff16 to sell 3 million. SM2 sold 2.5 million its first day.
aren't day 1 sales like 90% of the sales that happened during the first month of a game?
The drop usually isn't that drastic, no. It goes down around 90% after week 1, not day 1.
That said, SM2 spent an absolute frickton on marketing.
Spider-Man 2 sold faster than FF16 so far. Have to wait for a full week to see how it compares overall.
Spider-Man 2 sold 2.5 million first day. FF16 sold 3 million after a week, then sort of died off.
Reminds me of that time someone said an anime was being outsold by Looney Tunes.
They need to bring back the king.
Fricking moron spammer again
It's 4:47am in Melbourne anon. It's not the Aussie this time.
NOOOO IT'S THE AUSSIE BOOGEYMAN SURELY NOBODY CAN DISLIKE FF DMC EDITION
Reread the post you responded to anon. You misunderstood what it said.
XV killed the series
Then explain this.
*crickets chirping*
Yoshi really has a lot of parasocial fans. No other dev could get away with such a mediocre game.
Nomura
Kojima
Didn't it sell more copies then spiderman? Isn't it why Spiderman 2 is the
>fastest selling "PLAYSTATION STUDIO" game
instead of
>FASTEST SELLING PS5 EXCLUSIVE GAME
ff16 sold better. Also fun fact it is monday and they didn't want to share their 3 days stats (fre,satur,sun) because it was bad so they instead went for day 1
wait you right. Why the frick does it say "studio" instead of fastest selling PS5 exclusive game? The only other studio is god of wars
Sneaky, nice catch.
Holy shit, nice catch. I didn't see that. Clever mother frickers.
It's unfair to compare a game's sales to a Spider-Man on the same console. Of course it will sell less.
Bad comparison.
>FFXIII was shit.
>FFXIV is a dogshit visual novel chatroom with dogshit combat and 300 hours of filler.
>FFXV is shit.
>FFXVI is shit made by the visual novel chatroom developers.
>FFVIIR fricked up the beloved story of the original game.
Cursed fricking series. I wish I never got into it as a kid.
This. Just stop making these games for fricks sake it's clear that no one who works at SE has the skill to reproduce the level of quality that usedd to be generated yearly (yeah, Final Fantasy used to get YEARLY manline releases). Pack the entire series up, it's fricking over
moron
Of course they have, just let Matsuno do whatever the frick he wants or even Yoko Taro.
Matsuno games never sold a lot of copies, he just have a very dedicated fanbase. It's niche.
Yoko Taro really only had one incredibly successful game in Automata.
>FFXIV is a dogshit visual novel chatroom with dogshit combat and 300 hours of filler.
You don't have to be so mad, anon. Yoshi P, out of the kindness of his heart and love for you specifically, extended the free trial to include the second expansion, Stormblood. I'm sure even a snappy fella like you can find friends online.
they didnt use the 3 days stats like spiderman 1 meaning it sold less copies then spiderman 1, and spiderman 1 sold like 3.3m in 3 days meaning that spiderman 2 probably is around 2,6-2.8m atm.
>like spiderman and ffxvi
No idea why you gays are even fighting over sales numbers anyway
I liked both too
They're good for different reasons
Was really surprised how hard 16's Titan fight mogged the Sandman one though holy kek
I like them both. It is just Barry trying to start a fight between both games
Anon you do not understand what's going on with Spiderman on Ganker right now.
At least 16 and BG3 gays could waifu post.
I'll get XVI on PC. Seems cool, even if I'm not into single player games.
MMORPG players have no standards, which is why modern WOW and FFXIV are the most sucessful in that genre for about a decade.
Nothing went wrong, it’s a great game, but mongoloids like you are expecting only the game that’s in your mind, which Square can’t make, and which automatically sets you up for disappointment.
a few things went wrong
Why oesFFXVI get the blame for Forespoken and that marvel game colossal failures?
Naah, it's a 7-8/10 for the right people. Some issues they should fix before the PC release like the base game difficulty being far too low and it'll be good enough.
Why are we talking about this every day?
Because there are mentally ill people obsessed with hating current FF and Yoshi P specifically. There are far less hate threads to worse companies that have made low quality games that don't even deliver a full product.
Because people keep posting in it. I've made regular threads before and they always die before 100 posts. I wonder if the PC port will get people talking about it. Maybe for 2 weeks.
The game sucked and killed FF.
this would have been a solid 8.5/9 out of 10 if it cribbed more DMC-style combat
everything boiling down to break the stagger bar to stun and do damage is some weird mmo-lite shit that ended up just being frickin boring
Character-action games are rarely profitable to a degree that pleases a company. They suck investments like crazy and aren't even remotely a high-volume genre. DMCV is probably the only genuinely big successful one in the last decade.
Square is also notoriously fricking dogshit at supporting their devs or making good decisions, so there's 0 doubt in my mind they fricked up and mishandled this game in a way that can't really be laid at the feet of Yoshitpiss entirely.
It's like a 6.5/10.
make that shit turn based again or die. why the frick do they not understand that?
You don't understand bro the modern audience doesn't like turn based games noone wants to play turn based games they all flop
>praised for being everything journies hate japanese games for
honk honk
It's praised for being a good game with decent characters and fun mechanics rather than aiiiieee hero kun we need to kill god.
You didn't have to repeat what I said
Ah yes because spamming the same abilities over and over again is totally similar to BG3's open approach to problem solving is it?
Because a game doesn't do well because it's turn-based.
BG3 did well not because it was turn-based, but because of how open it was. Plus coomer shit. People love coomer shit.
FF can go back to turn based if they want, but they need to figure out how to draw people in.
>Calling XVI a great game
Yikes, sweaty, let's unpack this. It has
>Awful exploration incentives
>Terrible crafting
>Spammy combat
>Items that literally play the game for you
>Terrible pacing
>Terrible antagonist
>MMO style fetch quests like Mid's ship
Shall I go on?
No, save it for the PC port threads so that snoys' "it's only getting shit on cause people don't have a ps5!!" excuse doesn't work.
It worked for 7r which was a much worse game
>Awful exploration incentives
>Terrible crafting
>Spammy combat
>Items that literally play the game for you
>Terrible pacing
>Terrible antagonist
>MMO style fetch quests like Mid's ship
More than half of these are like the bread and butter of modern JRPGs.