read all steps fully
Step 1.) >they let colantonio in charge again
Step 2.) >the game had promise
Step 3.) >the israelites realized they couldn't let him get away with a spotless record
Step 4.) >they sabotaged it with lesbians, low enemy variety, and bad press
Step 5.) >hand rubbing
Dull midgame, dull late game, tedious platforming sections, badly designed weapon wheel, unsatisfying weapons, low enemy variety, uninspired pursuer enemy, a lot of useless powers, mana scarcity means you can't frick around with fun powers like shapeshifting
>What lesbians
The injured chick and the other chick who was stranded outside in space. Sadly I saved the injured lesbian before I knew of her degeneracy.
The lesbian calls you out on it at the end if you helped her, saying "you didn't even know if I was a real person or if I was telling the truth, but you helped me anyway just because I'm a gay woman! You're a fricking idiot!"
>What lesbians
There is an entire quest where you have to unlock a voice activated door by listening to cringe audiologs about meaningless lesbian relationship drama to get the voice pattern
Reminded me of the goofy romantic subplot in SS2 with the frumpy catlady and the spicy spanish gigolo. Except that one was somewhat amusing and didn't feel like terrible forced pandering.
>sabotaged it with lesbians
i don't think the game suffered that much from diversity. it felt well done like they actually gave a frick. the most unbelievable thing is a couple too many women in leadership positions. i've played it inside and out 8 times and there's a few minor details you could potentially argue that push 'the message' but it's fairly weak, especially since it's not very narrative focused.
Dull midgame, dull late game, tedious platforming sections, badly designed weapon wheel, unsatisfying weapons, low enemy variety, uninspired pursuer enemy, a lot of useless powers, mana scarcity means you can't frick around with fun powers like shapeshifting
What lesbians
>Dull midgame
midgame is the best part, overcoming obstacles and scavenging resources to upgrade yourself and/or weapons while still being vulnerable >dull late game
true. i spend the whole midgame risking my neck and pumping adrenaline to power myself up only to make the late game feel like a joke >tedious platforming sections
what? optional? >unsatisfying weapons
q beam is horse shit. shotgun feels good if a bit standard, fully upgraded pistol becomes an uzi. gloo gun is almost too good of a tool, stun gun is alright >low enemy variety
fine when you view them as an obstacle. less cool when you lean into the combat. luckily the game is pretty short >uninspired pursuer enemy
yea >useless powers
you can get creative, but there's not really a reason to not just use the combat powers. this is one of the biggest flaws and stems from the game being kinda small >mana scarcity
homie what? >What lesbians
the two asians in the crew quarters area. you're basically forced to hear their story thru audio logs to get voice samples unless you know what you're doing and kill the cook right away. i think it's funny they made one of them a bpd c**t whose actions basically leads to her partner getting murdered.
gameplay wise it leans more towards older games like deus ex so thats going to limit its reach.
there was also the other brainrot of people getting too caught up with the name being the same name as the other prey and aimed their hatred of it not being prey 2 at it.
>aimed their hatred of it not being prey 2 at it.
I'll never not be mad. Why would they call it Prey and then not have it be related to Prey in any way?
Every other imsim has a great rogues gallery of iconic masterminds and cool mooks
Prey had some fat ugly people and a whole bunch of black blobs which tried their best to be obnoxious to fight
Pure kino
I spent so long walking around that room thinking about the decision
The game had to actually remind me to get move on after probably 20 minutes lol
Combat felt kinda shitty, and there were like 3 enemy types and 2 environment types in the entire game.
If the you don't care about the immersive sim shit, all you're left with is a game about shooting amorphous black creatures in an art-deco space station for 20 hours.
>2 environment types
That’s just a bald-faced lie. >art deco in the modern, official parts of the station >nasa punk in the guts >tech labs with a bunch of instruments etc. >remains of ancient Soviet space station in the heart of it all >arboretum with plants and shiet >outside
The game was just garbage in general. No redeeming features except maybe the level design. Everything else fricking sucked. It's not about what went wrong, nothing really went right. Even Dishonored was a better game and Dishonored was a 6/10 if I'm being generous.
I think part of why Dishonored is probably Arkane's strongest IP (and their last chance to survive) is because it's as fun to play the game as an unseen shadow who may or may not use their powers to get everywhere without being noticed than as "Aliens: Whitechapel edition" and just tear through everyone in the most ruthless way possible.
How is he wrong? They've had a steep fall since Dishonored released, D2 was ass, Prey is inspired but not enough to save its ass, Deathloop feels like ass to play AND it's actually fricking terrible, do I need to talk about Redfall too?
This game was phenomenal. My only real complaint was the weak atmosphere compared to the other sci-fi greats like System Shock 2, the first Dead Space and Alien Isolation. The Typhon unfortunately just weren't all that interesting.
Ew what the frick
What is wrong with game developers
>hey let's make an imaginative game about immersing yourself in creative power fantasies >also make the characters the ugliest prostitutes of all fricking time >like full blown train wreck >make sure NOBODY wants to look like that >you don't wanna get TOO immersed! >you gotta recoil every once in a while so you are not lost in the video game world
Mooncrash is Deathloop but better.
Typhon Hunter is a gimmicky VR demo. It's shit and there's a reason they bundled it with the game for free. Honestly wish I could remove that stain from my Steam library.
Shit setting, done visually by someone who did not understand art deco or soviet futurism
Shit story, which amounted to reading corporate memos
Shit enemy variety, which were all a blotchy humanoid
It falls into the trap of
We have all these cool powers that you can use?
Nooooooooo! Why are you using them maybe you're le monster?
The game is basically teaching an alien empathy but that's flawed because even if managed that they could still hate you for it.
>Nooooooooo! Why are you using them maybe you're le monster?
Taht's literally every Arkane game ever. Just get over it and be a ruthless killing machine.
The powers would have been nice if that bullet time shit you got as a "pure" human wasn't already ridiculously overpowered to the point where you didn't even have to consider ayy lmao shit. What's the fricking point.
It was just garbage marketing >Trailer shows a huge empty space station and some spooky vibes >Looks like a walking sim or a horror game >Enemy design is the laziest ever, and makes it look like there's only one kind of foe in the whole game >Abuses the "Prey" name and instantly alienates everyone waiting for Prey 2, and everyone into niche games in general
For being a game where the whole theme is empathy with "the other", they sure failed at empathizing with any potential consumer.
Gameplay-wise the enemies were fine, problem was they were visually just floating black blobs. They play great and they sound great, but they don't look very interesting.
Quality of OG Prey aside it was just completely insane to call this one Prey as well
Possibly one of the biggest failures in branding of all time
Immersive Sims are truly the second-most cursed genre
Maybe the biggest (in terms of numbers of sales lost), but not the worst.
The worst I know of is Worlds. It's an indie imsim made by an insane french guy, who spent 7 years making it. And for years after the release it was impossible to google, and even searching for "worlds" in the Steam catalogue wouldn't show it on the three first pages...
I remember personally reaching out to him and begging him to change the name before the full release (after I had just played the demo), but he refused.
I don’t know if it’s good or bad. I dropped it 5 minutes in because it was nothing but walking and talking. It it doesn’t throw me into gameplay 1 minute from when I select ‘play game’, I’m checking out.
Would have ended up like Alien Isolation with the weird ass AI that forces you into a specific gameplay style. And then you'd have to cheese it on higher difficulties.
>And then you'd have to cheese it on higher difficulties.
Cheesing encounters on max difficulty in the early game was the best part of Prey though. When all you have is a wrench of barely enough ammos for the glue gun so you just stalk the one phantom you can get to and bumrush it when the time is right. Afterward, the feeling is sadly lost since you got more than enough tools for any encounter.
this guy gets it.
i almost want to say the game needs more content just before the final act to really test your your inventory and skill but i don't know how that would be accomplished.
playing on the second hardest difficulty with hardcore mode on and doing a no needles run was probably my favorite run.
This >Game builds up to the reveal of the giant nightmare creature >Obviously supposed to be scared and run/hide >I blow him away with some green laser gun I had sitting in my inventory
I don't get it, what were they thinking
The mimics just aren't enough to hang the whole game on, and the other enemy types suck. Low enemy variety also makes the mimics worse- there is never a point in the game where you kinda forget about mimics and can then be taken by surprise. The other enemies don't have interesting gimmicks, so the lack of variety feels even worse. The twist is ultimately more damaging than good.
The inner station should've felt more horrific and unknowable.
The Nightmare or whatever it's called completely misses the point- you look at Prey with its faceless, no-character enemies, you decide it could do with some singular special one as a sort of figurehead enemy figure, the tangible nemesis to maintain interest in the way a horde of mooks can't. Makes perfect sense- except the one we get is just faceless big mook. Boring design, boring to fight, largely a chore more than anything else, no narrative weight to it, feels like an afterthought. The lore behind it has some potential to be interesting, but it's not enough on its own, especially when it doesn't change to reflect you in any way.
Nightmare’s design is genuinely great, it’s so well animated but it’s also completely pointless since it’s trivial to evade early and trivial to kill later.
It should’ve been an adaptive monster that comes back stronger, but that would require way more work.
I didn't like doing chores for other people, there was maybe 5 cool moments in the entire game that they wear out like a prostitute but the whole game is just you being led around on a wild goose chase without any rewards or release for it. inb4 you call those paltry items they leave for you "rewards" instead of a satisfying narrative payoff like having a one-on-one talk with your supposed lover or getting the opportunity to rip your brother's face off for juking you 4+ times throughout the whole game
Also the enemy types are so fricking boring to play against, not to mention the broken as frick slowmo skill that they thought would somehow counter-balance the entire Typhon ability tree
The title was a double repellent. Fans of OG Prey were angry at being deprived of the long-promised sequel, and people who disliked it were not going to be enticed by the name of something they dislike.
The rumored title "Neuroshock" would have been much more fitting, as something in the vein of System Shock. (Colantonio denied that it was ever actually considered, but confirmed that the title was forced by Bethesda: https://old.reddit.com/r/prey/comments/w2tuh5/neuroshock/ )
after the first couple playthroughs you can 100% the station in like 15 hours.
i basically know where everything is at by now. can't believe i was still finding ways to get into certain places before expected. doing the whole of the neuromod division early game is wild.
>big buildup about the military coming to raid the station >it's just more fricking radiator drones but now with guns
My disappointment was immeasurable. I was expecting like half life HECU tier grunts to fight.
I legitimately dont understand the "low enemy variety" argument. No one ever makes this argument for anything, even games with less variety than Prey. Is this a meme from a review or something, where the frick does this argument even come from.
Look at the enemies in the game.
Mimic (fodder if you're not taken by surprise, and you always know to expect them because they're the main enemy type, greater variety would help with this)
Shadowy Man
Electric Shadowy Man
Fire Shadowy Man
Big Scary Shadowy Man
Drone
Flying Brick that controls drones
Flying Brick that controls zombies
Floating mines
Poltergeist
Damn near all of these are just silhouettes that just shoot a projectile at you. They are boring to look at. They are about as fun to fight. You use the same methods against anything short of the tanky Technopaths. The game is about an unknowable alien other that's capable of god knows what and which is actively altering the environment with some strange substance- there's every excuse to have all sorts of weird extradimensional shit. The Nightmare demonstrates they have some adaptibility, so why the frick aren't there more specially adapted creatures? When you start going into the inner Russian capsule, you should be encountering all sorts of progressively weirder new abominations, you're going into the heart of darkness, but nope. Same old shit.
This. Good games are far and few between these days. You've got to take what you can get. Prey and Death Stranding are the only games I've enjoyed since 2015.
>big buildup about the military coming to raid the station >it's just more fricking radiator drones but now with guns
My disappointment was immeasurable. I was expecting like half life HECU tier grunts to fight.
lots of cut content (trauma was originally it's own level)
unbalanced mid to late game for most players if they scour the first couple of levels for all the upgrades available
moronic nightmare pathfinding makes him a joke
needs to additional enemies to show up later even though I like the phantoms and mimics they become pushovers too quickly
overall I don't think it was too compromised for consoles, I think people that were expecting more run and gun like bioshock were initially disappointed but imo it's a modern classic and it gets better every time I replay it.
yeah pretty anticlimactic, iirc I just snuck up on the merc guy and bonked him once
Without Typhon powers and low ammo they were pretty annoying to deal with tbh
annoying because they keep respawning, just put something in front of the machine and they can't create them
the gameplay itself is forgettable because it does a terrible job of generating tension. You become all powerful in two hours with middling resource management, and because it's not a stealth game you don't have the optional challenge of "what if I don't get seen ONCE" there to make things tougher
1. bethesda published so anyone looking for a looking glass tier game knows its dumbed down
2. enemies are black blobs
3. has same name as original prey which people pretend to have really liked because they really liked the prey 2 trailer.
>issa modern gamer problem
you know what's great? when a game is challenging enough to where looking for varied solutions is satisfying and rewarding and not just doing it because you feel like it instead of blasting enemies with your plentiful resources
prey has a great thing going for it with the alternative ways to solve problems. it rarely does anything with it that you remember, because it usually doesn't matter.
>because you feel like it instead of blasting enemies with your plentiful resources
you only feel like that because you are too stupid to understand the games basic ass scenarios and play it as you would any other game
I did all the sequence skipping shit of my own accord and it wasn't enough to make the game as interesting as people pretend. This is basic as frick game design. If you don't want a player to play the game in a boring way, stop them.
>This is basic as frick game design
not compared to it's contemporaries. it really sucks that prey didn't see a lot of mainstream success it has a lot of good ideas that could be extracted and repurposed depending on the genre
What went wrong is that game should have been a lot longer. By the end it felt like I only played the first half of the game. What was the point in upgrading fully if I never got to use any of my equipment or skills? New game plus is ass as it doesn't give you back all your tools and weapons.
I felt like the gameplay balance at the beginning of the game was better as it felt more survival horror esque. Maybe the game should have leaned more in that direction instead.
>should have been a lot longer
yea. it works great for what it is. the station is very tightly designed but you very quickly outgrow the station in terms of ability.
there's no second half of pure gameplay to play with your new toys. shit, even a no needles run get lots of resources to distract, sneak by or even eliminate enemies
it feels like a glorified tech demo, like other devs should be taking notes. it's a very tight experience, i like it i've played it 8 times but every time i'm left with that feeling of "that's it?" >I felt like the gameplay balance at the beginning of the game was better as it felt more survival horror esque
after playing re2r and og re4 a few times, i agree with this. those games do quite a bit to waste your resources at the appropriate time and keep things feeling tense all the way to the end
blowing up/nullwaving the station then going to the moon in the second half might've been cool
Base game sucked ass, but the Mooncrash DLC was one of the best immersive sim experiences I had in years since I played System Shock 2 over 15 years ago
I'm glad that we got this game. It might be the last immersive sim game with publisher backing that we'll ever see. The genre is too niche now and there's no developer with the passion to make one anymore.
1.) Piss easy game on all difficulties. Endgame Morgan is so loaded up on upgrades that it's impossible for aliens to pose a challenge anymore. You can practically solo the entire game with a shotgun and combat slow-mode time.
2.) moronic triple plot twist ending that raises more questions than answers. (You're the real Morgan doing shit on a regular space ship, until it turns out you're maybe not the real Morgan and the ship is infested with aliens, until it turns out you've never been the real Morgan because the entire spaceship-under-attack scenario was a test, and you've been an alien yourself the whole time. So what happen to the real Morgan Yu? Who the frick cares, GAME END)
7.5/10 game that could've easily been a 9/10 if not for the moronation.
very easily could have been a great game if the devs had better sensibilites, the setting, story and artstyle were just so bad.
Tasteless moron detected
The overall story and the ending I’d agree but the rest is fine?
read all steps fully
Step 1.)
>they let colantonio in charge again
Step 2.)
>the game had promise
Step 3.)
>the israelites realized they couldn't let him get away with a spotless record
Step 4.)
>they sabotaged it with lesbians, low enemy variety, and bad press
Step 5.)
>hand rubbing
>sabotaged it with lesbians
>sabotaged
Have you played Weird West?
Dull midgame, dull late game, tedious platforming sections, badly designed weapon wheel, unsatisfying weapons, low enemy variety, uninspired pursuer enemy, a lot of useless powers, mana scarcity means you can't frick around with fun powers like shapeshifting
What lesbians
Shotgun feels great…
you didn't played the game Black person
>What lesbians
The injured chick and the other chick who was stranded outside in space. Sadly I saved the injured lesbian before I knew of her degeneracy.
I never even found her, tragically I kept playing even after the lesbian audiolog shit and the game only gets worse from there
The lesbian calls you out on it at the end if you helped her, saying "you didn't even know if I was a real person or if I was telling the truth, but you helped me anyway just because I'm a gay woman! You're a fricking idiot!"
the 'injured' chick in the power plant is the mc's old love interest and isn't a lesbian unless you chose femyu.
after the cook locks you in the freezer you find the other lesbian's dead body, her partner is the one stuck outside the station
The game inundates you with resources even on the hardest difficulty. You can experiment with magic as much as you please.
>What lesbians
There is an entire quest where you have to unlock a voice activated door by listening to cringe audiologs about meaningless lesbian relationship drama to get the voice pattern
I wouldn't have cared if it was some random audio log to "add flavor" but it's literally mandatory to progress and is so in your face.
Reminded me of the goofy romantic subplot in SS2 with the frumpy catlady and the spicy spanish gigolo. Except that one was somewhat amusing and didn't feel like terrible forced pandering.
I fricking hate romantic subplots. Straight, gay, I don't care. It's really annoying. I'm so lonely.
>sabotaged it with lesbians
i don't think the game suffered that much from diversity. it felt well done like they actually gave a frick. the most unbelievable thing is a couple too many women in leadership positions. i've played it inside and out 8 times and there's a few minor details you could potentially argue that push 'the message' but it's fairly weak, especially since it's not very narrative focused.
>Dull midgame
midgame is the best part, overcoming obstacles and scavenging resources to upgrade yourself and/or weapons while still being vulnerable
>dull late game
true. i spend the whole midgame risking my neck and pumping adrenaline to power myself up only to make the late game feel like a joke
>tedious platforming sections
what? optional?
>unsatisfying weapons
q beam is horse shit. shotgun feels good if a bit standard, fully upgraded pistol becomes an uzi. gloo gun is almost too good of a tool, stun gun is alright
>low enemy variety
fine when you view them as an obstacle. less cool when you lean into the combat. luckily the game is pretty short
>uninspired pursuer enemy
yea
>useless powers
you can get creative, but there's not really a reason to not just use the combat powers. this is one of the biggest flaws and stems from the game being kinda small
>mana scarcity
homie what?
>What lesbians
the two asians in the crew quarters area. you're basically forced to hear their story thru audio logs to get voice samples unless you know what you're doing and kill the cook right away. i think it's funny they made one of them a bpd c**t whose actions basically leads to her partner getting murdered.
If you like Prey you have low standards.
gameplay wise it leans more towards older games like deus ex so thats going to limit its reach.
there was also the other brainrot of people getting too caught up with the name being the same name as the other prey and aimed their hatred of it not being prey 2 at it.
>aimed their hatred of it not being prey 2 at it.
I'll never not be mad. Why would they call it Prey and then not have it be related to Prey in any way?
wasn't called ____shock
Nothing. It's the best modern imsim. Bad marketing and people not caring for imsims screwed it over.
Basically this
They refused to market it
Forced arkane to use the name PREY for IP reasons to keep the prey IP
Imsims are not for nbrainlets
2017 GotY
>GotY
GAY of the year
>GAY of the year
we don't sign our posts here
Runs out of interesting ideas halfway through. The backtracking fetch quests, lame villain, and anticlimactic ending sour the experience.
Way better Shock game than trash like Bioshock could ever hope to be.
stolen valor
I really enjoyed this game. I've been looking for another immersive sim or similar type of game to play (that I haven't played before).
It didn't end with you pushing the fat man in front of the trolley.
Every other imsim has a great rogues gallery of iconic masterminds and cool mooks
Prey had some fat ugly people and a whole bunch of black blobs which tried their best to be obnoxious to fight
Alex is a great character and mimics are cool
>uhhhh what if we gave headcrabs an iframe dodge and disguised them as coffee cups every 10 feet
They have actual AI and they can disguise as many things
Unfiltered Ludokino
Pure kino
I spent so long walking around that room thinking about the decision
The game had to actually remind me to get move on after probably 20 minutes lol
Combat felt kinda shitty, and there were like 3 enemy types and 2 environment types in the entire game.
If the you don't care about the immersive sim shit, all you're left with is a game about shooting amorphous black creatures in an art-deco space station for 20 hours.
>2 environment types
That’s just a bald-faced lie.
>art deco in the modern, official parts of the station
>nasa punk in the guts
>tech labs with a bunch of instruments etc.
>remains of ancient Soviet space station in the heart of it all
>arboretum with plants and shiet
>outside
>nasapunk
stopped reading there, you can have a nice day now
[something]punk has lost all meaning a long time ago
give it up
Publisher sabotage. Bethesda fricking hated this game and wanted it to fail.
*Wanted to make the game look worse than FO4 and FO76.
The game was just garbage in general. No redeeming features except maybe the level design. Everything else fricking sucked. It's not about what went wrong, nothing really went right. Even Dishonored was a better game and Dishonored was a 6/10 if I'm being generous.
>Even Dishonored was a better game and Dishonored was a 6/10 if I'm being generous.
What's Thief's score in your opinion?
>comparing thief to dishonored
lmao
a game designed around blink and killing multiple alert opponents is not a real stealth game
>a game designed around killing multiple alert opponents
You can kill. The real fun is in not.
I think part of why Dishonored is probably Arkane's strongest IP (and their last chance to survive) is because it's as fun to play the game as an unseen shadow who may or may not use their powers to get everywhere without being noticed than as "Aliens: Whitechapel edition" and just tear through everyone in the most ruthless way possible.
I didn't play Thief.
Contrarian of thd FRICKING MILLENNIUM
How is he wrong? They've had a steep fall since Dishonored released, D2 was ass, Prey is inspired but not enough to save its ass, Deathloop feels like ass to play AND it's actually fricking terrible, do I need to talk about Redfall too?
NTA but nah, Dishonored is mediocre and ugly, but playable at best. Prey is a mess and ugly.
This game was phenomenal. My only real complaint was the weak atmosphere compared to the other sci-fi greats like System Shock 2, the first Dead Space and Alien Isolation. The Typhon unfortunately just weren't all that interesting.
The more files you read/audio logs you listened to the better it was, it's setting and being immersed into said setting was what carried it imo.
anon, most Ganker users are moronic troony coomers and pedophiles. don't expect nothing more
shame how arkane went from stuff like dishonored and prey to deathloop and redfall
Played this a long time ago.
Are Mooncrasher and Typhon Hunter any good?
Give it a try
What the frick is wrong with Arkane. I get that it's a style, but couldn't they for once make a game with attractive people?
Arkane/Looking Glass have never made an attractive character. Just the way it is.
>Looking Glass have never made an attractive character
>AI dommy bawd
Nah dude
Meh, still kind of had that uncanny look. Like slav jank. I'm not into it.
you're a gigagorillion homosexual after all, so it's not surprising
See
They could
However they will not
Ew what the frick
What is wrong with game developers
>hey let's make an imaginative game about immersing yourself in creative power fantasies
>also make the characters the ugliest prostitutes of all fricking time
>like full blown train wreck
>make sure NOBODY wants to look like that
>you don't wanna get TOO immersed!
>you gotta recoil every once in a while so you are not lost in the video game world
frick that oh my god
Mooncrash is Deathloop but better.
Typhon Hunter is a gimmicky VR demo. It's shit and there's a reason they bundled it with the game for free. Honestly wish I could remove that stain from my Steam library.
they should add that preorder shotgun to people who bought deluxe edition
It wasn't Prey 2.
Yeah. The OG Prey was a great game, if you like Quake style shooters.
Shit setting, done visually by someone who did not understand art deco or soviet futurism
Shit story, which amounted to reading corporate memos
Shit enemy variety, which were all a blotchy humanoid
wrong
wrong
true
I avoided it for political reasons. I don't think I need to elaborate, and I won't. If devs want to mess with me, fine. I'll purchase other products.
It falls into the trap of
We have all these cool powers that you can use?
Nooooooooo! Why are you using them maybe you're le monster?
The game is basically teaching an alien empathy but that's flawed because even if managed that they could still hate you for it.
>Nooooooooo! Why are you using them maybe you're le monster?
Taht's literally every Arkane game ever. Just get over it and be a ruthless killing machine.
Oh no killer here to the max. I paid for the whole game I'm going to experience the whole game.
Sure thing Shinzo
typhon powers suck, the moral of the story is a really angry chink with a shotgun is the most dangerous creature
But the whole thing is that you are a monster and you're playing an immersive sim of the person who created you.
Yo dawg, we put an immersive sim in yo immersive sim so you can have deep gameplay in yo deep gameplay!
your decisions doesn't matter anyway. just like in dark souls. everything its already fricked.
The powers would have been nice if that bullet time shit you got as a "pure" human wasn't already ridiculously overpowered to the point where you didn't even have to consider ayy lmao shit. What's the fricking point.
its really boring and they spend all their development time on TF powers and dart guns.
It was just garbage marketing
>Trailer shows a huge empty space station and some spooky vibes
>Looks like a walking sim or a horror game
>Enemy design is the laziest ever, and makes it look like there's only one kind of foe in the whole game
>Abuses the "Prey" name and instantly alienates everyone waiting for Prey 2, and everyone into niche games in general
For being a game where the whole theme is empathy with "the other", they sure failed at empathizing with any potential consumer.
I will never buy this shit game just because of the name.
It’s unfortunate that it shares its name with a crappy idTech4 FPS, I agree
Crazy that no one picked up this idea after over a decade.
It was even worse, it was marketed almost as an action game.
Gameplay-wise the enemies were fine, problem was they were visually just floating black blobs. They play great and they sound great, but they don't look very interesting.
Yes, that's what I said?
Quality of OG Prey aside it was just completely insane to call this one Prey as well
Possibly one of the biggest failures in branding of all time
Immersive Sims are truly the second-most cursed genre
Maybe the biggest (in terms of numbers of sales lost), but not the worst.
The worst I know of is Worlds. It's an indie imsim made by an insane french guy, who spent 7 years making it. And for years after the release it was impossible to google, and even searching for "worlds" in the Steam catalogue wouldn't show it on the three first pages...
I remember personally reaching out to him and begging him to change the name before the full release (after I had just played the demo), but he refused.
nothing
the dlc, Mooncrash, is great.
I don’t know if it’s good or bad. I dropped it 5 minutes in because it was nothing but walking and talking. It it doesn’t throw me into gameplay 1 minute from when I select ‘play game’, I’m checking out.
prey would have worked better if the aliens were unkillable and you had to deal with them differently.
No
Would have ended up like Alien Isolation with the weird ass AI that forces you into a specific gameplay style. And then you'd have to cheese it on higher difficulties.
I was thinking maybe loud noises could scare them away, temporarily. and then there is the goo gun that could freeze them, temporarily, as well.
Sounds dumb
The tedium of doing that would eventually wear out its welcome. Sooner rather then later.
The player could lock them in a room if they didn't want to deal with them.
>And then you'd have to cheese it on higher difficulties.
Cheesing encounters on max difficulty in the early game was the best part of Prey though. When all you have is a wrench of barely enough ammos for the glue gun so you just stalk the one phantom you can get to and bumrush it when the time is right. Afterward, the feeling is sadly lost since you got more than enough tools for any encounter.
this guy gets it.
i almost want to say the game needs more content just before the final act to really test your your inventory and skill but i don't know how that would be accomplished.
playing on the second hardest difficulty with hardcore mode on and doing a no needles run was probably my favorite run.
This
>Game builds up to the reveal of the giant nightmare creature
>Obviously supposed to be scared and run/hide
>I blow him away with some green laser gun I had sitting in my inventory
I don't get it, what were they thinking
The mimics just aren't enough to hang the whole game on, and the other enemy types suck. Low enemy variety also makes the mimics worse- there is never a point in the game where you kinda forget about mimics and can then be taken by surprise. The other enemies don't have interesting gimmicks, so the lack of variety feels even worse. The twist is ultimately more damaging than good.
The inner station should've felt more horrific and unknowable.
The Nightmare or whatever it's called completely misses the point- you look at Prey with its faceless, no-character enemies, you decide it could do with some singular special one as a sort of figurehead enemy figure, the tangible nemesis to maintain interest in the way a horde of mooks can't. Makes perfect sense- except the one we get is just faceless big mook. Boring design, boring to fight, largely a chore more than anything else, no narrative weight to it, feels like an afterthought. The lore behind it has some potential to be interesting, but it's not enough on its own, especially when it doesn't change to reflect you in any way.
Nightmare’s design is genuinely great, it’s so well animated but it’s also completely pointless since it’s trivial to evade early and trivial to kill later.
It should’ve been an adaptive monster that comes back stronger, but that would require way more work.
I didn't like doing chores for other people, there was maybe 5 cool moments in the entire game that they wear out like a prostitute but the whole game is just you being led around on a wild goose chase without any rewards or release for it. inb4 you call those paltry items they leave for you "rewards" instead of a satisfying narrative payoff like having a one-on-one talk with your supposed lover or getting the opportunity to rip your brother's face off for juking you 4+ times throughout the whole game
Also the enemy types are so fricking boring to play against, not to mention the broken as frick slowmo skill that they thought would somehow counter-balance the entire Typhon ability tree
The title was a double repellent. Fans of OG Prey were angry at being deprived of the long-promised sequel, and people who disliked it were not going to be enticed by the name of something they dislike.
The rumored title "Neuroshock" would have been much more fitting, as something in the vein of System Shock. (Colantonio denied that it was ever actually considered, but confirmed that the title was forced by Bethesda: https://old.reddit.com/r/prey/comments/w2tuh5/neuroshock/ )
No one gave a shit that it was called Prey, why the frick would anyone care?
The name is so contentious it gets brought up in every thread multiple times, like ITT.
Ken Levine would have accumulated all his israeli energy to sue them into oblivion.
Why? He wasn't part of systemshock
Too short, too shallow, too uninspired.
This. Took my time and still beat it in 25 hours and have no interest in ever playing again.
>took my time and still beat it in 25 hours
That's a very rushed playthrough.
after the first couple playthroughs you can 100% the station in like 15 hours.
i basically know where everything is at by now. can't believe i was still finding ways to get into certain places before expected. doing the whole of the neuromod division early game is wild.
biggest disappointment
I legitimately dont understand the "low enemy variety" argument. No one ever makes this argument for anything, even games with less variety than Prey. Is this a meme from a review or something, where the frick does this argument even come from.
all the black blobs just kind of blend together, especially when you just pop adrenaline and shotgun them to death
Look at the enemies in the game.
Mimic (fodder if you're not taken by surprise, and you always know to expect them because they're the main enemy type, greater variety would help with this)
Shadowy Man
Electric Shadowy Man
Fire Shadowy Man
Big Scary Shadowy Man
Drone
Flying Brick that controls drones
Flying Brick that controls zombies
Floating mines
Poltergeist
Damn near all of these are just silhouettes that just shoot a projectile at you. They are boring to look at. They are about as fun to fight. You use the same methods against anything short of the tanky Technopaths. The game is about an unknowable alien other that's capable of god knows what and which is actively altering the environment with some strange substance- there's every excuse to have all sorts of weird extradimensional shit. The Nightmare demonstrates they have some adaptibility, so why the frick aren't there more specially adapted creatures? When you start going into the inner Russian capsule, you should be encountering all sorts of progressively weirder new abominations, you're going into the heart of darkness, but nope. Same old shit.
Best game released since 2017.
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This. Good games are far and few between these days. You've got to take what you can get. Prey and Death Stranding are the only games I've enjoyed since 2015.
>big buildup about the military coming to raid the station
>it's just more fricking radiator drones but now with guns
My disappointment was immeasurable. I was expecting like half life HECU tier grunts to fight.
Without Typhon powers and low ammo they were pretty annoying to deal with tbh
lots of cut content (trauma was originally it's own level)
unbalanced mid to late game for most players if they scour the first couple of levels for all the upgrades available
moronic nightmare pathfinding makes him a joke
needs to additional enemies to show up later even though I like the phantoms and mimics they become pushovers too quickly
overall I don't think it was too compromised for consoles, I think people that were expecting more run and gun like bioshock were initially disappointed but imo it's a modern classic and it gets better every time I replay it.
yeah pretty anticlimactic, iirc I just snuck up on the merc guy and bonked him once
annoying because they keep respawning, just put something in front of the machine and they can't create them
the gameplay itself is forgettable because it does a terrible job of generating tension. You become all powerful in two hours with middling resource management, and because it's not a stealth game you don't have the optional challenge of "what if I don't get seen ONCE" there to make things tougher
1. bethesda published so anyone looking for a looking glass tier game knows its dumbed down
2. enemies are black blobs
3. has same name as original prey which people pretend to have really liked because they really liked the prey 2 trailer.
Modern gamers are trained to do what they told and when presented with the opportunity to find a solution for themselves they think it's boring
>issa modern gamer problem
you know what's great? when a game is challenging enough to where looking for varied solutions is satisfying and rewarding and not just doing it because you feel like it instead of blasting enemies with your plentiful resources
prey has a great thing going for it with the alternative ways to solve problems. it rarely does anything with it that you remember, because it usually doesn't matter.
>because you feel like it instead of blasting enemies with your plentiful resources
you only feel like that because you are too stupid to understand the games basic ass scenarios and play it as you would any other game
I did all the sequence skipping shit of my own accord and it wasn't enough to make the game as interesting as people pretend. This is basic as frick game design. If you don't want a player to play the game in a boring way, stop them.
>This is basic as frick game design
not compared to it's contemporaries. it really sucks that prey didn't see a lot of mainstream success it has a lot of good ideas that could be extracted and repurposed depending on the genre
What went wrong is that game should have been a lot longer. By the end it felt like I only played the first half of the game. What was the point in upgrading fully if I never got to use any of my equipment or skills? New game plus is ass as it doesn't give you back all your tools and weapons.
I felt like the gameplay balance at the beginning of the game was better as it felt more survival horror esque. Maybe the game should have leaned more in that direction instead.
>should have been a lot longer
yea. it works great for what it is. the station is very tightly designed but you very quickly outgrow the station in terms of ability.
there's no second half of pure gameplay to play with your new toys. shit, even a no needles run get lots of resources to distract, sneak by or even eliminate enemies
it feels like a glorified tech demo, like other devs should be taking notes. it's a very tight experience, i like it i've played it 8 times but every time i'm left with that feeling of "that's it?"
>I felt like the gameplay balance at the beginning of the game was better as it felt more survival horror esque
after playing re2r and og re4 a few times, i agree with this. those games do quite a bit to waste your resources at the appropriate time and keep things feeling tense all the way to the end
blowing up/nullwaving the station then going to the moon in the second half might've been cool
nothing? it's a very good game.
I don't get the enemy variety complaints. Every game on Ganker has one meme criticism that everyone parrots.
many of these enemies are just variants of each other, it's really not a lot.
>phantom phantom phantom phantom
>operator operator operator
That list isn't very big and even then it's half reskins.
the game would've benefitted a lot from a third common enemy type besides mimics and phantoms
I don't know, but I'm not too fond of space theme even if I still bought the game, maybe most people are like me but not willing to bypass this
Base game sucked ass, but the Mooncrash DLC was one of the best immersive sim experiences I had in years since I played System Shock 2 over 15 years ago
This. They should've turned Mooncrash into a standalone game so you wouldn't have to buy Prey with it.
is mooncrash actually good?
the reviews on steam are lower than the base game
It's Deathloop beta.
I didn't play deathloop
I'm glad that we got this game. It might be the last immersive sim game with publisher backing that we'll ever see. The genre is too niche now and there's no developer with the passion to make one anymore.
New Deus Ex is going to get revealed at The Game Awards.
Eidos Montreal has been confirmed to be revealing something and what else could it be?
It's going to be more Marvel shit.
Sqaure/Eidos no longer has the rights to Deus Ex.
I was optimistic until it was revealed that Embracer doesn't know how to manage studios. It will be a nice surprise if it does happen though.
>deus ex extraction shooter
BREACH 2
Breach was good for a free game
1.) Piss easy game on all difficulties. Endgame Morgan is so loaded up on upgrades that it's impossible for aliens to pose a challenge anymore. You can practically solo the entire game with a shotgun and combat slow-mode time.
2.) moronic triple plot twist ending that raises more questions than answers. (You're the real Morgan doing shit on a regular space ship, until it turns out you're maybe not the real Morgan and the ship is infested with aliens, until it turns out you've never been the real Morgan because the entire spaceship-under-attack scenario was a test, and you've been an alien yourself the whole time. So what happen to the real Morgan Yu? Who the frick cares, GAME END)
7.5/10 game that could've easily been a 9/10 if not for the moronation.