Bad reputation due to how jank the first game was. Which is a shame because this one is genuinely great. Not $50 great, but for, say, $15, you could do a lot worse.
It's okay when Nintendo does it.
Let's not forget how half of the Switch's library is $60 ports.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Like i said, none of what you mentioned are simple content updates.
And every console gets ports, in fact the Switch ports are more justifiable considering how many people didn't buy a Wii U.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>And every console gets ports
Not ones that start at $60 and remain at that price indefinitely.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Both PlayStation, XBox as well as multiple third parties do the exact same.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Got any examples?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Oh look, here's the PS5 port of Spider-Man on PlayStation's official site selling it for $65.
https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/games/marvels-spider-man-remastered/
4 months ago
Anonymous
$36 on Steam right now.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You wanted an example and i gave you an example. Don't move the goal post homosexual, especially when the Steam version is just a sale and will be back to full price soon enough, and that only goes for Steam users, not all the PlayStation owners who don't use Steam.
This point is doubly dumb because Nintendo puts their games on sale as well. And when Nintendo does a sale they actually have it on their console.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>This point is doubly dumb because Nintendo puts their games on sale as well.
Rarely. And you gave one example, compared to half of Nintendo's current selection.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Rarely? Nintendo has sales multiple times a year, not counting holidays.
Also you only asked for one example and i gave it to you, that one example alone proves you wrong. Stop trying to move the goalpost, and don't try to ignore everything else i said in that post that proves you wrong.
But if you want more proof then just see for yourself by going to the PlayStation 5 store and see just how many ports are being sold at full price.
But i'm generous enough to spoonfeed you tonight so here's another example.
https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/games/the-last-of-us-part-i/
And don't try using the sale as an excuse this time.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>any examples >lol you only asked for one
4 months ago
Anonymous
You're ignoring everything that proves you wrong again. You're practically admitting that i'm right at this point.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's bad when anyone does it, but Nintendo does it far more often.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Well then can you give examples? And i mean actual real examples.
4 months ago
Anonymous
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-8-deluxe-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword-hd-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/pikmin-3-deluxe-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/new-super-mario-bros-u-deluxe-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/donkey-kong-country-tropical-freeze-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/pokken-tournament-dx-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/bayonetta-and-bayonetta-2-digital-bundle-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-switch
All during the Christmas sale btw
4 months ago
Anonymous
You got 8 examples? OK. I already gave two examples so here's six more to even it up.
https://store.playstation.com/en-ca/product/UP9000-PPSA10662_00-THELASTOFUSPART2
https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/games/marvels-spider-man-miles-morales/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1593500/God_of_War/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1151640/Horizon_Zero_Dawn_Complete_Edition/?curator_clanid=40425349
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1259420/Days_Gone/?curator_clanid=40425349
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1649240/Returnal/?curator_clanid=40425349
And by the way, yes, i know most of these are from Steam, turns out Sony has less games on the PS5 than i thought.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Why'd you pick so many games that are $50 base price, a game that only released a few months ago, and a game that isn't even out yet?
4 months ago
Anonymous
How do any of those things take away from the fact that they're all Sony ports at full price?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>at full price
They're not, because they've already been discounted. All of the Nintendo ones I've posted are >1 year old and still at full price. There are some launch titles in there, even. And not one of them is a part of a sale, while every one you posted is.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Dumbass what did i tell you about using sales as a coping mechanism?
>given examples >th-those don't count
People like you are why I don't call myself a Nintendo fan because I'd have to be associated with brown nosed homosexuals like you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Well then explain to me how those examples count as simple content updates.
All this coming from someone who has long quit many of those series by the way.
NASB 2 added more than any of those game mentioned and did so in two years.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Half the roster cut >Good chunk of stages cut >Most noteworthy thing that they added is a subpar campaign mode >Added more than Smash, Splatoon, Animal Crossing and TOTK
?????
You can get away with that sort of thing if you have a well reviewed game with a big fanbase. NASB bled players like mad so it's only natural NASB2 sold poorly and now has no players.
I repeat what I said earlier
It's only okay when Nintendo does it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Turns out you can't be wienery like Nintendo unless you have a fanbase as loyal as Nintendo. Why the frick do you keep saying "it's okay"? We're talking about what is business strategies are viable depending on a given series' unique circumstances
>Every character returns >New characters >New stages >New modes >New ways to play Smash >A content pack
By that logic every single fighting game is a content pack.
Yes. Fighting game players are the most domesticated cattle ever to exist. They eagerly pay full price for less content than what the previous game ended with.
4 months ago
Anonymous
True, but Ultimate doesn't have less than any of the previous Smash games.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Less singleplayer focus. World of Light is trash.
4 months ago
Anonymous
OK you got a great point there i will agree with that.
Lame roster. Like I mean how many of those characters do you like THAT much that you'd pay a full price for? Nickelodeon is just simply not that interesting, no where near as hype as Smash roster autism has.
Nickelodeon is full of lively and fun characters. But Nickelodeon is extremely fricking israeli over which characters are allowed to be used and forcing specific characters to be portrayed in very specific ways.
Also what
It's not that Nickelodeon isn't interesting, it's that the devs aren't big enough fans to make them interesting.
said, not all of the devs are as invested in the franchises as they could be.
The first game was shovelware with no budget that was only funded to make a quick buck so no one had any hype for the second game, especially since they cut characters and included meme characters while excluding the actual all stars
Apoealing to Meleegays.
Not that Melee is bad, but if a game focuses on appealing to Meleegays they already forgot that Melee was a popular game even before compgayging.
they still don't have timmy turner, they removed two turtles, helga, hugh, catdog and added the stupid ass grandma from arnold doing captain falcon moves, they removed the protag of their second biggest cashcow and powdered toast man
genuinely baffling, melee didn't cut a single character and brawl cut just clones, why would they do this?
yeah i forgot about mewtwo but he was the outlier
smash 4 would be the closest thing to nasb2, deleting a shit ton of characters and making you buy a melee clone and a brawl base character as dlc
>game one >devs are making shovelware >melee autists hoodwink people in thinking it's the next big platform fighter >game two >devs themselves now think they are making some FGC-approved game, are really still just making shovelware >people fooled by melee autists the first time around don't show up a second time
you forgot >troony fricker dev that desperately wants to be sakurai pretty much told people not to buy the game >because viacom supported CURRENT EVENT
50 usd for a content update
Bad reputation due to how jank the first game was. Which is a shame because this one is genuinely great. Not $50 great, but for, say, $15, you could do a lot worse.
>It's okay when Nintendo does it.
Not that Anon but, name a time when Nintendo has done such a thing with everyone letting it slide.
Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Smash Bros, Tears of the Kingdom.
Everything you mentioned aren't simple content updates, they're full fledged new experiences.
It's okay when Nintendo does it.
Let's not forget how half of the Switch's library is $60 ports.
Like i said, none of what you mentioned are simple content updates.
And every console gets ports, in fact the Switch ports are more justifiable considering how many people didn't buy a Wii U.
>And every console gets ports
Not ones that start at $60 and remain at that price indefinitely.
Both PlayStation, XBox as well as multiple third parties do the exact same.
Got any examples?
Oh look, here's the PS5 port of Spider-Man on PlayStation's official site selling it for $65.
https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/games/marvels-spider-man-remastered/
$36 on Steam right now.
You wanted an example and i gave you an example. Don't move the goal post homosexual, especially when the Steam version is just a sale and will be back to full price soon enough, and that only goes for Steam users, not all the PlayStation owners who don't use Steam.
This point is doubly dumb because Nintendo puts their games on sale as well. And when Nintendo does a sale they actually have it on their console.
>This point is doubly dumb because Nintendo puts their games on sale as well.
Rarely. And you gave one example, compared to half of Nintendo's current selection.
Rarely? Nintendo has sales multiple times a year, not counting holidays.
Also you only asked for one example and i gave it to you, that one example alone proves you wrong. Stop trying to move the goalpost, and don't try to ignore everything else i said in that post that proves you wrong.
But if you want more proof then just see for yourself by going to the PlayStation 5 store and see just how many ports are being sold at full price.
But i'm generous enough to spoonfeed you tonight so here's another example.
https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/games/the-last-of-us-part-i/
And don't try using the sale as an excuse this time.
>any examples
>lol you only asked for one
You're ignoring everything that proves you wrong again. You're practically admitting that i'm right at this point.
It's bad when anyone does it, but Nintendo does it far more often.
Well then can you give examples? And i mean actual real examples.
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-8-deluxe-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword-hd-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/pikmin-3-deluxe-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/new-super-mario-bros-u-deluxe-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/donkey-kong-country-tropical-freeze-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/pokken-tournament-dx-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/bayonetta-and-bayonetta-2-digital-bundle-switch/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-switch
All during the Christmas sale btw
You got 8 examples? OK. I already gave two examples so here's six more to even it up.
https://store.playstation.com/en-ca/product/UP9000-PPSA10662_00-THELASTOFUSPART2
https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/games/marvels-spider-man-miles-morales/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1593500/God_of_War/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1151640/Horizon_Zero_Dawn_Complete_Edition/?curator_clanid=40425349
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1259420/Days_Gone/?curator_clanid=40425349
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1649240/Returnal/?curator_clanid=40425349
And by the way, yes, i know most of these are from Steam, turns out Sony has less games on the PS5 than i thought.
Why'd you pick so many games that are $50 base price, a game that only released a few months ago, and a game that isn't even out yet?
How do any of those things take away from the fact that they're all Sony ports at full price?
>at full price
They're not, because they've already been discounted. All of the Nintendo ones I've posted are >1 year old and still at full price. There are some launch titles in there, even. And not one of them is a part of a sale, while every one you posted is.
Dumbass what did i tell you about using sales as a coping mechanism?
>given examples
>th-those don't count
People like you are why I don't call myself a Nintendo fan because I'd have to be associated with brown nosed homosexuals like you.
Well then explain to me how those examples count as simple content updates.
All this coming from someone who has long quit many of those series by the way.
NASB 2 added more than any of those game mentioned and did so in two years.
>Half the roster cut
>Good chunk of stages cut
>Most noteworthy thing that they added is a subpar campaign mode
>Added more than Smash, Splatoon, Animal Crossing and TOTK
?????
don't forget every third pokemon game in the same generation (emerald, platinum, etc), nintendo has been doing this shit for decades
why do you bring up nintendo who at least wait like four years between sequels when you could have mentioned call of duty?
Because that is exactly what Smash 4 to Smash Ultimate was. A content pack sold as a full game.
You can get away with that sort of thing if you have a well reviewed game with a big fanbase. NASB bled players like mad so it's only natural NASB2 sold poorly and now has no players.
I repeat what I said earlier
It's only okay when Nintendo does it.
Turns out you can't be wienery like Nintendo unless you have a fanbase as loyal as Nintendo. Why the frick do you keep saying "it's okay"? We're talking about what is business strategies are viable depending on a given series' unique circumstances
>Every character returns
>New characters
>New stages
>New modes
>New ways to play Smash
>A content pack
By that logic every single fighting game is a content pack.
Yes. Fighting game players are the most domesticated cattle ever to exist. They eagerly pay full price for less content than what the previous game ended with.
True, but Ultimate doesn't have less than any of the previous Smash games.
Less singleplayer focus. World of Light is trash.
OK you got a great point there i will agree with that.
>content update
>missing 50% of the original roster
It runs like garbage.
Lame roster. Like I mean how many of those characters do you like THAT much that you'd pay a full price for? Nickelodeon is just simply not that interesting, no where near as hype as Smash roster autism has.
It's not that Nickelodeon isn't interesting, it's that the devs aren't big enough fans to make them interesting.
Nickelodeon is full of lively and fun characters. But Nickelodeon is extremely fricking israeli over which characters are allowed to be used and forcing specific characters to be portrayed in very specific ways.
Also what
said, not all of the devs are as invested in the franchises as they could be.
The first game was shovelware with no budget that was only funded to make a quick buck so no one had any hype for the second game, especially since they cut characters and included meme characters while excluding the actual all stars
So out of all the ECelebs who shilled NASB2 exactly how many of them stuck with it and how many aren't even talking about it anymore?
Apoealing to Meleegays.
Not that Melee is bad, but if a game focuses on appealing to Meleegays they already forgot that Melee was a popular game even before compgayging.
That's a big part as to why the first game felt so barebones. It didn't even copy Melee as a whole, it was just fighting.
Yeah, plus the stuff seemed to be designed to make every playstyle be inferior to rushdown because they didn't want a Jigglypuff situation.
NASB 2 doesn't feel anything like Melee. If anything, it's closer to Ultimate.
The first game was definitely Meleegay pandering though.
they still don't have timmy turner, they removed two turtles, helga, hugh, catdog and added the stupid ass grandma from arnold doing captain falcon moves, they removed the protag of their second biggest cashcow and powdered toast man
genuinely baffling, melee didn't cut a single character and brawl cut just clones, why would they do this?
>brawl cut just clones
Except Mewtwo but i digress.
yeah i forgot about mewtwo but he was the outlier
smash 4 would be the closest thing to nasb2, deleting a shit ton of characters and making you buy a melee clone and a brawl base character as dlc
>they removed the protag of their second biggest cashcow
Let's be real, nobody actually gives a shit about Lincoln. Not even Loud House fans.
>All stars brawl thread
>Devolves into "muh nintendo"
Lol
Lmao
NASBgays try so desperately to defend their slop that they make it all about Nintendo to deflect all the problems.
First game wasn't finished
For this one they CUT characters. I'm not excusing that.
>game one
>devs are making shovelware
>melee autists hoodwink people in thinking it's the next big platform fighter
>game two
>devs themselves now think they are making some FGC-approved game, are really still just making shovelware
>people fooled by melee autists the first time around don't show up a second time
you forgot
>troony fricker dev that desperately wants to be sakurai pretty much told people not to buy the game
>because viacom supported CURRENT EVENT
Roster cuts
did it flop