Yep. "Soulsvets" got filtered by enemy density or whatever. It's embarassing how this fanbase will shout "bad design" each time a game kicks them in the ass.
This.
Absolute KINO game and the great filtering made it even better.
Ignoring the shitposts, does the "ghost world" or what ever mechanic amount to anything more than a gimmick? It looks pretty rad, and I was thinking of getting this from a sale, or when I next get drunk.
I don't know what you consider "gimmick" but umbral is integral in the design. It's part of exploration, boss fights, and system mechanics like the free revive pr the checkpoint system.
the ghost world is interesting because it changes the layout of the world and adds new item/monster spawns to previous locations. more than that, when you die in the regular world youre transported into the ghost world and dying in ghost world is a real death. you have to find map objectives to leave the ghost world which are one-time use per rest
it allows for a lot of exploration because there are bridges, ladders, hidden walls exclusively in the umbral world
yes, it adds a lot to exploration and the world aesthetic if that's something you enjoy
Thanks. Might have to give it a try sooner than later. Also, I remember something about specters or some phantoms converging on you when you are dead. Is the "hollowed state" much different than in Dark Souls for example?
imagine you are guts at night and your brand is burning. it's basically the same shit that happens to your character once you enter the umbral. the longer you stay, the more dangerous it gets
you wanna spend as little time as possible in umbral because it gets more dangerous the longer you are there and eventually a red phantom starts hunting you
Cool, sounds like there's enough flavor to justify the purchase. Cheers.
you wanna spend as little time as possible in umbral because it gets more dangerous the longer you are there and eventually a red phantom starts hunting you
the ghost world is interesting because it changes the layout of the world and adds new item/monster spawns to previous locations. more than that, when you die in the regular world youre transported into the ghost world and dying in ghost world is a real death. you have to find map objectives to leave the ghost world which are one-time use per rest
If you're wondering if the game world is completely changed, no. Often times the umbral stuff is just used to create new routes. Water barring your way? A strange gap in the path forward? Switch to umbral and the water is gone or a bridge of bones is there to cross. But also the enemies are more aggressive in umbral and a little miniboss shows up if you stay in it too long.
did these Black folk really release a game with the same name twice within 10 years
the lack of confidence in their IP is all you need to know about this piece of trash
>apparently lived for a thousand years after the first lotf >reduced to some irrelevant guide who spouts bullshit >tries to pick a fight and dies
Meanwhile even fricking Surge 2 treated the MC of the first game with respect and you personally help him get out of the city
High/Ultra crashes the game for me after about 30 minutes so I am forced to play on medium settings. 5950x /6750xt I don't mind a dip below 60fps for some nice graphics and lotf is the only game that is crashing when I push the settings so I don't think it's anything "wrong" with my pc exactly. I do have SAM enabled so maybe that is it but screw rebooting to disable that anytime I wanna play this one game.
the thing about this webm is that you just know that this encounter would already filter more than half of this board and the steam forums because they are too simple to use the tools the game gives players
>walking backwards and pew pewing some slow mobs >big guy comes up and goes "HUHUHUHU WATCH OUT AM GONNA HIT YA" with every attack so the player has plenty of time to notice it and dodge
Lies of P is peak reddit.
Overrated as frick game by people who keep watching those "Lies of P is a souls masterpiece" videos.
And no, I didn't play LotF
>Why isnt this abandoned ruins filled with candles for me to see better?
Also damage numbers are an objective good thing, but should be an optional toggle like MH World.
Both Lords of the Fallen games sold very well.
Even the 2014 version sold like 4M.
They really got lucky jumping in the early souls like bandwagon and people were thirsty for any souls clone, even a shit one like the first LOTF.
>released with severe performance issues on all platforms >released with save corruption bugs >released with progress hardlock bugs where you would get stuck at a gate that wouldnt open >released with multiple npc quests broken >three endings and only one has a actual final boss fight
i liked the game but the state of it at launch was amateur hour
People said all of those happened because publisher insisted to move from UE4 to UE5 like 6-7 months before release date without delaying the game itself.
Lords of the fallen is more about exploration but is somewhat jank
Lies of p is a linear affair with focus on bosses and is a much more polished experience
Lies of P is better in almost every way but utterly lacks exploration and mystery, that feeling of getting lost and exploring.
It's a shame, because they nailed almost every other aspect of souls, and that's probably near the top in terms of importance.
Surge 2 was very fun.
Don't give a shit about your "lore" or "atmosphere". Never cared about them in souls games either. Never read any item descriptions.
yes and no, lotf has two dimension you go through, the normal one which is like your standard souls game with maybe a bit more enemies and a umbral one where you enter the realm of the dead
the umbral one is filled to the brim with (respawning) annoying c**t enemies
Worst offense its that the two dimension shit its stale shit you just have to keep in the dead dimension to get all items and progress sometimes and the danger its another status effect meter to summon an almost unkillable red reaper that cancel your estus healing
Well, call me #filtered then, I hate this sort of shit.
i hate respawning enemies and time limits too but they are making the umbral sound way worse than it is. for me its what separates this from other soulslop and i hope the sequel expands on the idea. exploring most areas twice but in a different realm is a good idea for exploration-focused game
they didn't even mention the extremely high enemy density and the fact that there's maybe 8-9 enemy types excluding bosses, and half the bosses are reused enemies with bloated healthbars, leading to extremely repetitive encounters
Worst offense its that the two dimension shit its stale shit you just have to keep in the dead dimension to get all items and progress sometimes and the danger its another status effect meter to summon an almost unkillable red reaper that cancel your estus healing
What happened to the "souls games so hard" meme?
Why is everyone b***hing and crying when faced with actual challenge? I heard they nerfed the spawns in later patches anyway, because of crybabies.
I have never considered a souls game as hard. I just think the way From designs their games to be more compelling than just lazily throwing enemies at you, so excuse me for not being le epic gamer.
we know you died to them in umbral more than a few times. you wouldn't be this assblasted about it otherwise
get a weapon that kills them in one swing like an UGS and stop crying
they did nerf the game and pushed a lot of the difficulty balance into NG+
I am really glad I played the developer's version of the game at launch before shitters like the person you replied to begged the devs to casualize things for them
It is true. The game very frequently places enemies right behind or even inside boxes to automatically trigger a push when you walk by, and push you off a ledge. It happens like 3 times in a row within 30 seconds in the first zone. You have like a millisecond to react to it unless you gave the foresight (aka trial and error) to attack the crates from the side.
It's exaggerated, but yes. The game has almost the exact enemy encounter principles as Dark Souls 2. If you didn't like that game you probably wont like Lords.
Released in a completely baffling state, early access tier. Dreadful performance, a myriad of baffling problems starting with some collision maps just stopping your character in place on a flat surface sometimes. Basically no quality of life options, not even a storage. Absolutely godawful state of online mechanics (and apparently they got soulstard streamers to playtest the game and they were fricking SCREAMING in unison that they should release the game without online systems).
Dogshit gameplay design on all levels. It's basically a direct DeS clone mechanically, down to all weapons within the class having the same movesets, but with an insanely floaty movement and forward momentum on all attacks clasing with typical souls action philosophy. Their only "innovation" is the ability to string 1h and 2h attacks together but it's useless. Worst parry i've ever seen in a souls clone, janky as frick enemy animations, nonexistent balance leading to every build having 1 objectively best weapon, all "builds" being homogenized by having their own ranged options and two versions of "mana" system, everything about the combat is dreadful.
One of the worst fricking settings i've seen in souls clones. Lore is garbage, world is shit, enemy designs are straight out of the asset flip store, especially the demons. Has probably the most insulting endings and ending bosses i've seen in any game ever, it's like being slapped in the face for daring to finish this shit show.
But above all, the famed "world design" is garbage. It's basically a straight loop that ends through upper Calrath and into Skybridge again, with a few shitty linear "branches" on the side. All 3 huge world shortcuts are all useless and just lead to Skybridge again. The only way to somehow diversify your playthough is by going through the side route of pilgrim's perch, and they actually jacked up the key price so good luck with that lmao.
This is actually a pretty decent breakdown of what's wrong with the game, and the dude noticed several problems with the game that i did not. Like the fact SEVERAL CENTRAL BOSSES REUSE THE SAME FRICKING SKELETON AND ATTACK ANIMATIONS, holy fricking shit. Not just some irrelevant side bosses, but the beacon bosses.
That “Dark Souls 3 was my first game” moron just does a glorified summary of his play through where he tries to pass off any frick ups that he does as objective faults of the game >uhhhh I saw the main path in the Gorge but I went up a side path >this side path had a shortcut back to another area, so I got lost for HOURS not knowing where to go because I never bothered to go back to the path that I noted as having seen earlier >this is why I hate Dark Souls 1 style world design because I get lost
He lost all credibility the moment he began the video with a clip of him dying to the easiest boss in the game then ragequiting and uninstalling. That's just sad
>First criticism of the game is "The tutorial boss is just a regular enemy that shows up in the game but with more health"
Didnt the literal GOTY Elden Ring do exactly this with the godrick knight?
The guy is clearly underleveled. He even says hes trying to avoid killing as many enemies as possible and just sprinting through zones to find the boss and die to it over and over. I killed the hush saint on the first try without even using the intended mechanic in umbral.
>Guy gets to the Gorge and theres a split in the path >He fights an optional boss and then gets confused that its not the main pathway to progress >WAHT THE FRICK HOW DARE THE GAME HAVE OPTIONAL PATHWAYS
you really should try forming your own opinions instead of letting Ganker posters and streamers influence your decision making process
don't be such an NPC
>we released a mediocre bargain bin bootleg dark souls clone and it flopped >lets try again and with the same name too! >NAN?! IT FLOPPED AGAIN?! BAKANA!!!!!!!!
What I want to know is why you waste days and weeks of your life fellating a mediocre dark souls ripoff, even as it objectively fails.
Do they realize that Lords of the Fallen 2023 was more profitable than Hi-Fi Rush, Soulstice and Wanted Dead all together? Why are they doomposting a game that is already getting a direct sequel?
I take a certain pleasure in knowing that this game's level design gatekept more than a handful of terrible players. There's something fun about enjoying a diamond in the rough while people shitfling about
Because you think it's a modern thing, zoomie.
You never played old games where such things were common and nobody gave a shit, so you try and pretend like you know better because of your "superior taste"
4 months ago
Anonymous
I really hope you're just pretending to be moronic to bait him
4 months ago
Anonymous
shut the frick up autist
4 months ago
Anonymous
I really hope you're just pretending to be moronic to bait him
Concession accepted.
Oh and btw, just because you think lies of P has the Victorian era athletic of London, which is actually Paris, doesn't make it Bloodborne in the slightest.
4 months ago
Anonymous
homie even the devs themselves said this is a bloodborne clone
4 months ago
Anonymous
No, they haven't.
4 months ago
Anonymous
yes they've said bloodborne and sekiro were what influenced the game
4 months ago
Anonymous
can't tell if pretending or genuinely moronic
[...]
they've gone on record saying bloodborne and sekiro was the main influences behind the game and its blatantly obvious
And of course you can provide said record
4 months ago
Anonymous
4 months ago
Anonymous
Timestamp of gtfo
4 months ago
Anonymous
can't tell if pretending or genuinely moronic
No, they haven't.
they've gone on record saying bloodborne and sekiro was the main influences behind the game and its blatantly obvious
Because you think it's a modern thing, zoomie.
You never played old games where such things were common and nobody gave a shit, so you try and pretend like you know better because of your "superior taste"
[...]
Concession accepted.
Oh and btw, just because you think lies of P has the Victorian era athletic of London, which is actually Paris, doesn't make it Bloodborne in the slightest.
The cliffside area the game starts you off on kind of blows especially when they keep throwing ranged enemies at you and they put an enemy that tries to knock you off a ledge around every single corner.
Carthas or whatever the village that was on fire was pretty good though. Kinda wish the game started you there as the level design is much more interesting and forgiving. But also it took me too long to realize how busted the throwables were and eventually every encounter just devolved in to chucking hammers at the enemies with a million HP to stunlock them to death and then cleaning up the stragglers afterwards.
Lies of Piss is a reddit game, but not because of the cricket, it's because pretentious soulsgays, aka redditors keep haling it as the second coming of Miyazaki.
Not according to all the countless videos calling lies of Piss a masterpiece and Shitting on Lame of the fallen.
Nice try deflecting though, when nobody talked about lotf. I never even played lotf. I have played Lies of Piss and it's overrated as hell.
They went into insane direction with the second game. There are barely any weapons... Everything is unlocked through weird obscure secrets you need to find, also it's more of the same, I didn't like it and data mining requiring secrets sucked ass. If you play without spoilers you will finish the game with two guns
4 months ago
Anonymous
Absolute moron.
The only reason the Archon class had to be datamined was because they wanted to give you clues for it later.
no reason to play a video game that i know is going to receive content updates after the fact ive finished it, and that doesnt justify the price tag for me to pick it up down the line and experience the same shit with new tools. this doesnt just apply to this game, but every new game
>lotf thread >lies of pissgays arguing about reddit and bloodborne
lmao these asiaticshills are astroturfing every lotf thread so hard since release
no one cares, go make your own thread
I just got through Sunless Skein or w/e it's called and killed the Skinstealer and it's been pretty good so far. The level design is absolutely incredible and it carries the game hard. I never thought that this would be the strongest point of the game. When I started playing I expected the lamp nonsense to be just an annoying gimmick.
The enemy variety is mediocre however especially in umbral. It's also fricking dumb that every enemy without a boss healthbar always respawns including all the annoying healthsponge elite enemies like those knights with a greatsword and the big heads in umbral. The weapon moveset variety is very poor too because as far as I can tell all weapons in the same class have the same moveset (they do feel decent though because of the ability to combo any attack into any other attack, including 1H -> 2H, I just wish changing weapons wasn't just a lazy skin swap).
nothing, top 5 games of last year
the duality of man
This.
Absolute KINO game and the great filtering made it even better.
Yep. "Soulsvets" got filtered by enemy density or whatever. It's embarassing how this fanbase will shout "bad design" each time a game kicks them in the ass.
People post this knockoff Sauron shit and think it's so rad get some fricking taste you were the my chemical romance homosexual in high-school.
Ignoring the shitposts, does the "ghost world" or what ever mechanic amount to anything more than a gimmick? It looks pretty rad, and I was thinking of getting this from a sale, or when I next get drunk.
I don't know what you consider "gimmick" but umbral is integral in the design. It's part of exploration, boss fights, and system mechanics like the free revive pr the checkpoint system.
Thanks. Might have to give it a try sooner than later. Also, I remember something about specters or some phantoms converging on you when you are dead. Is the "hollowed state" much different than in Dark Souls for example?
imagine you are guts at night and your brand is burning. it's basically the same shit that happens to your character once you enter the umbral. the longer you stay, the more dangerous it gets
Cool, sounds like there's enough flavor to justify the purchase. Cheers.
you wanna spend as little time as possible in umbral because it gets more dangerous the longer you are there and eventually a red phantom starts hunting you
More like cancel your estus and try to stab your groins by noclipping under rhe ground
the ghost world is interesting because it changes the layout of the world and adds new item/monster spawns to previous locations. more than that, when you die in the regular world youre transported into the ghost world and dying in ghost world is a real death. you have to find map objectives to leave the ghost world which are one-time use per rest
it allows for a lot of exploration because there are bridges, ladders, hidden walls exclusively in the umbral world
yes, it adds a lot to exploration and the world aesthetic if that's something you enjoy
Nope just gimmick and second chance for fights
If you're wondering if the game world is completely changed, no. Often times the umbral stuff is just used to create new routes. Water barring your way? A strange gap in the path forward? Switch to umbral and the water is gone or a bridge of bones is there to cross. But also the enemies are more aggressive in umbral and a little miniboss shows up if you stay in it too long.
Imagine being so much of a contrarian that you eat up shit and pretend it tastes good
you're the one being contrarian right now though
you got filtered lol
>you got filtered by not eating shit
>I talk about things I haven't experienced
Pure delusion.
did these Black folk really release a game with the same name twice within 10 years
the lack of confidence in their IP is all you need to know about this piece of trash
Different Black folk, Black person.
same publisher, jiggaboo
>unironically using shield in this game
lmao
Nobody asked, soulsBlack person
that dumbfrick didn't even reply to the correct post
if you actually played lotf or ds1 for that matter, you would be familiar with the concept of having a shield as a stat stick
Soulsshit shields doesnt have stat stick except the rarea " regen stamina ,health or mana shield"
anon, I didn't realize you were so moronic to not realize that is exactly what I am referring to
Thats not a stat stick wearing a shield thst buffs your defense stat passively its a stat stick
is health/stamina/mana regeneration not a statistical improvement to your character?
>same name
>lack of confidence in their IP
lol are you moronic?
yes, they had to use decade-old SEO to boost their pitiful attempt at brand recognition
>they lacked confidence in their own IP that they had to use their own IP for brand recognition
how negative is your IQ?
Imagine asking for it for Christmas and you open it up and...
If you make a bad game, you should be required by law not to make a product with the same name
Forgot pic
Funny this game its a stelaht sequel and this guy its a worse version of the hyrule king guide of breath of the wild with a spoopy arm
>apparently lived for a thousand years after the first lotf
>reduced to some irrelevant guide who spouts bullshit
>tries to pick a fight and dies
Meanwhile even fricking Surge 2 treated the MC of the first game with respect and you personally help him get out of the city
No one cares about the MC of the first game, why are you pretending to be offended for him?
Shit put me in a coma
Nothing. They already confirmed a sequel and have been fixing this game bit by bit like they promised.
It's amazing how many content patches they added, one of the last few paches added like 6 new spells.
Nothing, besides horrible optimization on release. Otherwise a fun game, miles ahead of the original from 2014.
how is the performance on PC now?
Better, way better.
High/Ultra crashes the game for me after about 30 minutes so I am forced to play on medium settings. 5950x /6750xt I don't mind a dip below 60fps for some nice graphics and lotf is the only game that is crashing when I push the settings so I don't think it's anything "wrong" with my pc exactly. I do have SAM enabled so maybe that is it but screw rebooting to disable that anytime I wanna play this one game.
>AMD
Hey anon, at least it's more stable than my old GTX 1080 was.
Why are there so many shills for this shitty souls clone both here and leddit? Am I missing something?
It was pretty damn good, especially the level design.
Loved both this and Lies of P.
the thing about this webm is that you just know that this encounter would already filter more than half of this board and the steam forums because they are too simple to use the tools the game gives players
>showcases the player nuking a group of enemies and then spanking a slow telegraphed one
>anon acts as if this was peak hardcore gaming
Saw some guy on youtube rush those enemies, spam R1 and die like a moron, then call the game shit, so that anon seems pretty correct.
>Saw some guy on youtube rush those enemies, spam R1 and die like a moron, then call the game shit
was it DSP
>walking backwards and pew pewing some slow mobs
>big guy comes up and goes "HUHUHUHU WATCH OUT AM GONNA HIT YA" with every attack so the player has plenty of time to notice it and dodge
Are you for fricking real?
You just described the entire genre. Everything sounds easy when you're reductive.
why isn't the boss doing a 20 hit variable speed attack that cancels into a different attack pattern when it detects you healed?
>comparing this piece of shit to lies of P
This board is Reddit as hell kek.
Lies of P is peak reddit.
Overrated as frick game by people who keep watching those "Lies of P is a souls masterpiece" videos.
And no, I didn't play LotF
lies of p is a sihtty korean game that doesn't even have online functionality
Holy shit they really are shameless. Look at all those animations traced from fromsoft games
From has no animations of casting with an empty hand, take your meds.
>that scene lightning
>damage numbers
>those shitty particle effects
this webm tells you everything wrong with it
>Why isnt this abandoned ruins filled with candles for me to see better?
Also damage numbers are an objective good thing, but should be an optional toggle like MH World.
looks like elden ring
just finished two playthroughs of lies of p and really enjoyed it
nothing went right
>DMCV gets a mobile game after 5 years
>Lords of the Fallen gets a sequel greenlit after 3 months
Hack and slash games are truly dead
Both Lords of the Fallen games sold very well.
Even the 2014 version sold like 4M.
They really got lucky jumping in the early souls like bandwagon and people were thirsty for any souls clone, even a shit one like the first LOTF.
That mobile game was before dmcv
>Hack and slash games are truly dead
good riddance
wait is LOTF getting any DLC? or just a sequel?
Sequel
damn, so no reason to wait for any dlc huh. That's all I wanted to do before I buy. Kinda sucks though to see it left behind with no expansion
Early access game made in UE5
>Early access game
elaborate
>released with severe performance issues on all platforms
>released with save corruption bugs
>released with progress hardlock bugs where you would get stuck at a gate that wouldnt open
>released with multiple npc quests broken
>three endings and only one has a actual final boss fight
i liked the game but the state of it at launch was amateur hour
People said all of those happened because publisher insisted to move from UE4 to UE5 like 6-7 months before release date without delaying the game itself.
Kekked by a robot twink with a long nose
In the older ue4
Are this and Lies of P actually worth playing? I'm always skeptical of souls like because most of them feel like cash grabs
Yes, those 2 are the best "souls-like" games on the market currently.
lotf is jankier than lies of p but lies of p has close to no exploration
both are good in their own ways but lies of p is much much more competently programmed
Lords of the fallen is more about exploration but is somewhat jank
Lies of p is a linear affair with focus on bosses and is a much more polished experience
lies of p is really comfy honestly - it doesn't have any online play though
i'm about to start lords of the fallen
Lies of P is better in almost every way but utterly lacks exploration and mystery, that feeling of getting lost and exploring.
It's a shame, because they nailed almost every other aspect of souls, and that's probably near the top in terms of importance.
>nailed
>no build variety
>extremely linear levels
>no online whatsoever
I doubt you know what you're trying to say.
No, too much western influence. Western made souls are always worst souls, see the surge.
the surge has ludokino level design not yet surpassed by any other soulslop
Surge 2 was very fun.
Don't give a shit about your "lore" or "atmosphere". Never cared about them in souls games either. Never read any item descriptions.
It did fine, apparently. Over a million copies sold, same as Lies of P. A sequel is on the way too.
plebs couldn't get past Pieta and left negative reviews blaming performance
nothing at all. it's a great game if you aren't a casual gamer
I heard Lords of the Fallen throws waves of enemies at you and has some deliberate placement of them designed to drive you up the fricking wall.
Is this true? Reminds me of the criticism of Dark Souls 2.
yes and no, lotf has two dimension you go through, the normal one which is like your standard souls game with maybe a bit more enemies and a umbral one where you enter the realm of the dead
the umbral one is filled to the brim with (respawning) annoying c**t enemies
Well, call me #filtered then, I hate this sort of shit.
i hate respawning enemies and time limits too but they are making the umbral sound way worse than it is. for me its what separates this from other soulslop and i hope the sequel expands on the idea. exploring most areas twice but in a different realm is a good idea for exploration-focused game
they didn't even mention the extremely high enemy density and the fact that there's maybe 8-9 enemy types excluding bosses, and half the bosses are reused enemies with bloated healthbars, leading to extremely repetitive encounters
Worst offense its that the two dimension shit its stale shit you just have to keep in the dead dimension to get all items and progress sometimes and the danger its another status effect meter to summon an almost unkillable red reaper that cancel your estus healing
What happened to the "souls games so hard" meme?
Why is everyone b***hing and crying when faced with actual challenge? I heard they nerfed the spawns in later patches anyway, because of crybabies.
I have never considered a souls game as hard. I just think the way From designs their games to be more compelling than just lazily throwing enemies at you, so excuse me for not being le epic gamer.
Dark Souls 2 would like a word with you.
It's the only game I didn't play because I knew it would be shit without Miyazaki at the helm.
>i get my opinions from twitch streamers and e-celebs
Ganker - video games
>I heard they nerfed the spawns in later patches anyway, because of crybabies.
Thank god I pirated the launch version
When the only challenge is not falling asleep from killing endless hordes of brain dead simplistic enemies, maybe it's not a good challenge.
>it's n-not h-hard it's j-just t-tedious
Like clockwork
Don't you have wall to bash down with your head?
we know you died to them in umbral more than a few times. you wouldn't be this assblasted about it otherwise
get a weapon that kills them in one swing like an UGS and stop crying
they did nerf the game and pushed a lot of the difficulty balance into NG+
I am really glad I played the developer's version of the game at launch before shitters like the person you replied to begged the devs to casualize things for them
if you are the type of gay that hates dark souls 2, you will get obliterated by lord's of the fallen. don't buy this game if you couldn't handle ds2
It is true. The game very frequently places enemies right behind or even inside boxes to automatically trigger a push when you walk by, and push you off a ledge. It happens like 3 times in a row within 30 seconds in the first zone. You have like a millisecond to react to it unless you gave the foresight (aka trial and error) to attack the crates from the side.
It's exaggerated, but yes. The game has almost the exact enemy encounter principles as Dark Souls 2. If you didn't like that game you probably wont like Lords.
Released in a completely baffling state, early access tier. Dreadful performance, a myriad of baffling problems starting with some collision maps just stopping your character in place on a flat surface sometimes. Basically no quality of life options, not even a storage. Absolutely godawful state of online mechanics (and apparently they got soulstard streamers to playtest the game and they were fricking SCREAMING in unison that they should release the game without online systems).
Dogshit gameplay design on all levels. It's basically a direct DeS clone mechanically, down to all weapons within the class having the same movesets, but with an insanely floaty movement and forward momentum on all attacks clasing with typical souls action philosophy. Their only "innovation" is the ability to string 1h and 2h attacks together but it's useless. Worst parry i've ever seen in a souls clone, janky as frick enemy animations, nonexistent balance leading to every build having 1 objectively best weapon, all "builds" being homogenized by having their own ranged options and two versions of "mana" system, everything about the combat is dreadful.
One of the worst fricking settings i've seen in souls clones. Lore is garbage, world is shit, enemy designs are straight out of the asset flip store, especially the demons. Has probably the most insulting endings and ending bosses i've seen in any game ever, it's like being slapped in the face for daring to finish this shit show.
But above all, the famed "world design" is garbage. It's basically a straight loop that ends through upper Calrath and into Skybridge again, with a few shitty linear "branches" on the side. All 3 huge world shortcuts are all useless and just lead to Skybridge again. The only way to somehow diversify your playthough is by going through the side route of pilgrim's perch, and they actually jacked up the key price so good luck with that lmao.
this post sums it up
still cant believe how bad the last "boss" is
and the other last boss is just a reskin of a boss you already fight
It's such an American (I know Hexworks is multinational) take on dark fantasy, for better and for worse
>le deep voice saying you. will. DIE.
>everything is x-treme just so the devs are absolutely sure you realize how dark© everything is
>the theming is completely over the top
it's what happens when people who don't understand the appeal of Souls, or do understand it but due to publisher/whatever interference have to 'americanize', create a soulslike game. It's why Zack Snyder added TWO MORE PRONGS to aquaman's trident just because more = better
It's at the same time one of the sickest and one of the most moronic things in the world, it's like if you ask a toddler what he thought of Berserk and turn it into a video game and I think that's pretty cool
Haven't played the game btw
Why are people pretending you never use shields in souls games for actual blocking?
idk, i havent used shields since das2
Souls turned into rollslop so people forgot about shields.
It's a 10 year old shitty dark souls clone. Who cares?
>merely pretending to be blind
Why did they port some shitty dark souls clone from 10 years ago onto PC now?
anon, no one believes you are being earnest
>Why did they port some shitty dark souls clone from 10 years ago onto PC now?
they rebooted Lords of the Fallen for some reason
This is actually a pretty decent breakdown of what's wrong with the game, and the dude noticed several problems with the game that i did not. Like the fact SEVERAL CENTRAL BOSSES REUSE THE SAME FRICKING SKELETON AND ATTACK ANIMATIONS, holy fricking shit. Not just some irrelevant side bosses, but the beacon bosses.
buy an ad
That “Dark Souls 3 was my first game” moron just does a glorified summary of his play through where he tries to pass off any frick ups that he does as objective faults of the game
>uhhhh I saw the main path in the Gorge but I went up a side path
>this side path had a shortcut back to another area, so I got lost for HOURS not knowing where to go because I never bothered to go back to the path that I noted as having seen earlier
>this is why I hate Dark Souls 1 style world design because I get lost
He lost all credibility the moment he began the video with a clip of him dying to the easiest boss in the game then ragequiting and uninstalling. That's just sad
>First criticism of the game is "The tutorial boss is just a regular enemy that shows up in the game but with more health"
Didnt the literal GOTY Elden Ring do exactly this with the godrick knight?
Also the moron ignored how the Lightreaper fight is technically beatable at the start, just like every other souls first "unkillable" boss.
His major criticism is that even the beacon bosses are the reskins of each other.
Im watching this chud's video and im 30m in and it feels like his only complaints are "the game is challenging me I wish it didnt"
Dark souls 2 was the last difficult game fromsoft made and that was a decade ago
The guy is clearly underleveled. He even says hes trying to avoid killing as many enemies as possible and just sprinting through zones to find the boss and die to it over and over. I killed the hush saint on the first try without even using the intended mechanic in umbral.
>Guy gets to the Gorge and theres a split in the path
>He fights an optional boss and then gets confused that its not the main pathway to progress
>WAHT THE FRICK HOW DARE THE GAME HAVE OPTIONAL PATHWAYS
And now hes once again complaining that a boss later becomes a normal enemy. But its okay when Elden Ring the GOTY does it.
Why remake a failed souks clone? Terrible decision making process
I wish Deck13 gave it another shot, I liked the Surge 2.
I don't know how well their newest game did too, nobody ever talked about it here.
buggy and not super creative
shocker i know
>game was so shit that even the streamers paid 5 figures to play it were trash tlaking it and saying how much they regret it
Man, no way am i falling for a fricking Ganker shill thread
>muh eceleb
>muh tranime
lol i bet it's a zoomer too
>107 / 12 / 33
>Unique IP didnt go up
Uh oh...
Why does it need to go up?
Yes i posted in this thread before, do you think you're only allowed to post once every thread you stupid newbie tranime zoomer?
every homosexual says this as a way to cope with staying in the same shit thread for hours at a time to shill for a game while not getting paid
>streamers
you really should try forming your own opinions instead of letting Ganker posters and streamers influence your decision making process
don't be such an NPC
No, I don't think I'll try every single game that comes out just to "give them a fair shake"
>we released a mediocre bargain bin bootleg dark souls clone and it flopped
>lets try again and with the same name too!
>NAN?! IT FLOPPED AGAIN?! BAKANA!!!!!!!!
What I want to know is why you waste days and weeks of your life fellating a mediocre dark souls ripoff, even as it objectively fails.
How's the co-op? Can I play though the whole thing with my mate or can I only summon in certain situations like souls.
>85GB
Fromsoft cultists review bombing the competition for free
>Fromsoft cultists
Who do you think the audience for this game was, anon?
The hate for Souls clones come from shitters that hate Fromsoftware and don't want more Souls-likes
Do they realize that Lords of the Fallen 2023 was more profitable than Hi-Fi Rush, Soulstice and Wanted Dead all together? Why are they doomposting a game that is already getting a direct sequel?
It was only slightly less clunky than the original Lord of the Fallen. Unless you wanted to use magic, seriously who thought the controls were good.
I take a certain pleasure in knowing that this game's level design gatekept more than a handful of terrible players. There's something fun about enjoying a diamond in the rough while people shitfling about
nothing, its better than anything fromsoft has ever done
Haha, yeah. It's so good that it completely flopped TWICE.
the fricking marvel quips cricket really ruined lies of p for me
Frick that gay.
Oh boy, don't ever play old games, zoomie.
What?
Old games that came out way before marvel got popular with normalgays were full of what you consider "marvel quips", zoomie.
How does not wanting a Marvel quips sidekick in a Bloodborne clone make me a zoomie?
the dude never had a point which is why he's namecalling
Because you think it's a modern thing, zoomie.
You never played old games where such things were common and nobody gave a shit, so you try and pretend like you know better because of your "superior taste"
I really hope you're just pretending to be moronic to bait him
shut the frick up autist
Concession accepted.
Oh and btw, just because you think lies of P has the Victorian era athletic of London, which is actually Paris, doesn't make it Bloodborne in the slightest.
homie even the devs themselves said this is a bloodborne clone
No, they haven't.
yes they've said bloodborne and sekiro were what influenced the game
And of course you can provide said record
Timestamp of gtfo
can't tell if pretending or genuinely moronic
they've gone on record saying bloodborne and sekiro was the main influences behind the game and its blatantly obvious
what the frick are you even babbling about
Mistake tedium for skill
Lords of the Failen is proof that as long as graphics is good, morons will buy the worst cloned shit.
shut the frick up third-worlder ESL
There are no mistakes in my post.
>as long as graphics is good
are* good
dumbfrick ESL
dumb esl
stop posting
poorgays with toasters
The cliffside area the game starts you off on kind of blows especially when they keep throwing ranged enemies at you and they put an enemy that tries to knock you off a ledge around every single corner.
Carthas or whatever the village that was on fire was pretty good though. Kinda wish the game started you there as the level design is much more interesting and forgiving. But also it took me too long to realize how busted the throwables were and eventually every encounter just devolved in to chucking hammers at the enemies with a million HP to stunlock them to death and then cleaning up the stragglers afterwards.
mediocre reboot of a souls clone that got mogged by Lies of P
>it's nothing like bloodborne bro
>game jornos said so
LMAO
The same moronic jornos that keep calling any 3rd person action game a "souls-like"
saying lies of p isn't a bloodborne clone is 100% denial or delusion
Lmao it doesn't have even 10% of what makes bloodborne great.
nobody is saying ti does you fricking moronic c**t
it's just abundantly clear they're aping it and sekiro
>defending the reddit cricket in lies of p
have a nice day
>any banter between characters I reddit
Holy shit I hate zoomers so much
only zoomers would defend this shit
No, because non zoomers are used to that being in games before.
Zoomers would have a heart attack at what most old games had in them.
>like a glove!
>get it haha
>like a glove..
>ahh forget it
what an amazing addition to the game
if only bloodborne has a marvel quipper
Good thing this game isn't bloodborne then.
Also don't make fun of good culture and their humor. You just don't get it.
>good culture and their humor
okay your bait is too obvious now
I meant asiatic culture.
It's a Korean game. You don't get their humor. To them it's a good joke.
shit bait
>good culture
Lies of Piss is a reddit game, but not because of the cricket, it's because pretentious soulsgays, aka redditors keep haling it as the second coming of Miyazaki.
>keep haling it as the second coming of Miyazaki
Who? I've played it, and people who have played it agree with me that's it's just an okay game. Nothing special.
>Who?
I just said who, moron.
>pretentious soulsgays
those soulsgays prefer lords of the fallen over this game though because lies of p plays more like sekiro
Not according to all the countless videos calling lies of Piss a masterpiece and Shitting on Lame of the fallen.
Nice try deflecting though, when nobody talked about lotf. I never even played lotf. I have played Lies of Piss and it's overrated as hell.
>countless videos
>countless
post 20
im a soulgay and i prefer lotf over lies of p like
said
Nice try.
Soulsgays aren't aware they are soulsgays.
I don't think you know what a deflection is
what was that souls-like shooter?
was it any good?
Remnant?
Yeah it's decent. But it's more like a very long rouguelike than a souls game.
do you need to play the first game before playing the second
I'd recommend playing only the first one anyway.
why is that
They went into insane direction with the second game. There are barely any weapons... Everything is unlocked through weird obscure secrets you need to find, also it's more of the same, I didn't like it and data mining requiring secrets sucked ass. If you play without spoilers you will finish the game with two guns
Absolute moron.
The only reason the Archon class had to be datamined was because they wanted to give you clues for it later.
the first one was pretty bad, never played the second. probably isnt much better, one of those games you need a friend to have fun with = shit
You can beat them both solo with no issues. The second game is also better.
I pirated them both btw.
no reason to play a video game that i know is going to receive content updates after the fact ive finished it, and that doesnt justify the price tag for me to pick it up down the line and experience the same shit with new tools. this doesnt just apply to this game, but every new game
Dont worry, the game has been optimised & casualised to the point where its nearing its final version
>lotf thread
>lies of pissgays arguing about reddit and bloodborne
lmao these asiaticshills are astroturfing every lotf thread so hard since release
no one cares, go make your own thread
Bad launch and bugs, other than that it did everything it wanted to and is peak jank. Lots of fun if you really enjoy souls.
Weakest Souls clone
Is still better than crap like Ninja Gayden or Dragon's Smegma
It had a terrible launch that took them like a month of daily patches to fix. I think its a great soulslike game. Maybe not for $60 but on a sale.
Could've called it "Fallen Lords" calling it the exact same thing is just a b***h move same with CoD
Nothing. It was great, the true sequel to Dark Souls 2 that I've always wanted.
I just got through Sunless Skein or w/e it's called and killed the Skinstealer and it's been pretty good so far. The level design is absolutely incredible and it carries the game hard. I never thought that this would be the strongest point of the game. When I started playing I expected the lamp nonsense to be just an annoying gimmick.
The enemy variety is mediocre however especially in umbral. It's also fricking dumb that every enemy without a boss healthbar always respawns including all the annoying healthsponge elite enemies like those knights with a greatsword and the big heads in umbral. The weapon moveset variety is very poor too because as far as I can tell all weapons in the same class have the same moveset (they do feel decent though because of the ability to combo any attack into any other attack, including 1H -> 2H, I just wish changing weapons wasn't just a lazy skin swap).