Low-quality server software
Ludicrously poor management of servers
The worst community
You have to pay neo-Blizzard
Wrath is deeply flawed to begin with
Ridiculous #changes that might be coming from the right place but are implemented in such as way that they probably are bad for the game
Lack of necessary #changes like AGGRESSIVE custom tuning
==> In the absence of raids being buffed into relevant status, Wrath is the premier raidlogging expansion with trivial (bad) raids, and literally nothing to do other than raidlog
==> For this reason its other merits, like classes that are fun and engaging to play while not feeling completely homogenized, don't really count for much
My friends became esport junkies that actually want to competitively run raids in a 14 year old MMO super duper seriously. Gone are the days that we sat together in a room just shitting about in WoW with no rhyme or reason. The game itself is still fine, Wrath is still good (if not the best expac), its the people that have changed.
>My friends became esport junkies that actually want to competitively run raids
who has time to do this? it's not a pandemic any more and kids are in school
His in his twenties and working man. He takes it more seriously today than he did back then when he had all the free time in the world. It makes 0 sense to me so I'm not playing wrath, they started this tryhard shit towards the end of tbc classic.
>remake one of the worst expansions >it still sucks 14 years later
You will never recapture the mystique and wonder that the game gave you when you were 12. Playing old content will only taint the good memories you had of it.
I booted up wow for the first time in fifteen years on a private server and no, it's still just as good as it was. The player base changed pre and post TBC. If you weren't there pre-1.9 you didn't play WoW.
Part of the problem is blizzards release path. They help alliviete retails downtime by releasing classic content and therefore pulling in all the retail players into classic. And as you can guess the people still playing retail are some of the most worst kind of players in the sense of min max to hell and being just generally miserable people to be around.
Really wish we had private servers of older versions of vanilla. >ywn be fighting 5 other hunters trying to tame lupos for his full shadow damage . >ywn play in old alterac valley with the side routes open up.
Private servers are unironically way better, holy shit. Ganker told me its just Brazilians and ruskies, but thats not right, it actually feels like community. The only people chatting I've seen in classic wotlk so far are people advertising their polish guilds in global, feels like I'm on Warmane again, which is the worst private server in thst department but even there, I manage to make friends afre a day or two playing.
wrong thread but what are the wait timers for dungeons in "Normal" wow not that revival shit?
I kinda got the itch to play my warrior or pala with gs but dont want to wait 40+ minutes for a party
has something changed since i played it two years ago or why is it so quick now?
Im lvl 40 i think, horde player and it always took around 50 minutes for random dungeons
>wanna resub and mess around for the sake of the good old days >remember how boring the wotlk dungeons were >there will be even more of a chore now without rdf >remember there's a few months of Naxx ahead which is painfully easy, but also long as frick making it incredibly boring >ulduar is cool, but that won't be out for a few months and even that gets boring after you fully clear it once >OS and VoA are even more of a chore than the dungeons >fricking Onyxia rehash >FRICKING HALF A YEAR OF FRICKING TOC(im sure they will at least wont let it stay for that long this time) >ICC is actually a pretty meh raid, lore aside >SOTA and Isle of Conquest are pretty fricking shit
Honestly, I feel like the leveling is the best part of WotLK, the zones are amazing and I'm thinking of subbing just for that for a month maybe, but then I really don't wanna give nu-blizz a single cent and they kinda fricked up the leveling too with the meme boosts anyway...
WotLK was the swansong of an old MMO that should have been put out to pasture but fourteen years later is still being milked.
I honestly can't believe Ganker has morons giving SJW blizzard money
All you had to do is make Classic+ and reboot the entire franchise. Retail is unsalvageable at this point. Just hit the RESET button and start over and do it better. Take the game from Classic into an entirely new direction.
never going to happen. the only good thing to come out of this is that private servers are free from the endless chase of blizzlike and are actually experimenting with custom content.
Shitzzard apparently is cracking down on private servers again right now, prolly cos of the wotlk launch, they just shut down one pretty big server and threatened another
Why do morons want classic+ is beyond me
Who yhenfrick so you think its gonna make it, the same people making Shadowlands and Dragonflight, why so you think it will be much different?
Unironically, a Russian scammer did it better than nu-blizz ever could, just play on Turtle if yhats what you want
all I want to do is play classic vanilla again, I wish the classic+ and people who want aggressive changes would just suck start a shotgun, I don't want season of mastery, I just want to play classic vanilla again, the only thing I want blizzard to do is manage faction populations better and actually be aggressive when it comes to getting rid of botters and gold seller/buyers, that's it, I don't want fruit bowl censorship or twink incubuses, just give me fresh classic vanilla you fricking homosexual morons
No Pandaren
Low-quality server software
Ludicrously poor management of servers
The worst community
You have to pay neo-Blizzard
Wrath is deeply flawed to begin with
Ridiculous #changes that might be coming from the right place but are implemented in such as way that they probably are bad for the game
Lack of necessary #changes like AGGRESSIVE custom tuning
==> In the absence of raids being buffed into relevant status, Wrath is the premier raidlogging expansion with trivial (bad) raids, and literally nothing to do other than raidlog
==> For this reason its other merits, like classes that are fun and engaging to play while not feeling completely homogenized, don't really count for much
>Wrath is deeply flawed to begin with
How so?
My friends became esport junkies that actually want to competitively run raids in a 14 year old MMO super duper seriously. Gone are the days that we sat together in a room just shitting about in WoW with no rhyme or reason. The game itself is still fine, Wrath is still good (if not the best expac), its the people that have changed.
>My friends became esport junkies that actually want to competitively run raids
who has time to do this? it's not a pandemic any more and kids are in school
His in his twenties and working man. He takes it more seriously today than he did back then when he had all the free time in the world. It makes 0 sense to me so I'm not playing wrath, they started this tryhard shit towards the end of tbc classic.
>remake one of the worst expansions
>it still sucks 14 years later
You will never recapture the mystique and wonder that the game gave you when you were 12. Playing old content will only taint the good memories you had of it.
I booted up wow for the first time in fifteen years on a private server and no, it's still just as good as it was. The player base changed pre and post TBC. If you weren't there pre-1.9 you didn't play WoW.
Part of the problem is blizzards release path. They help alliviete retails downtime by releasing classic content and therefore pulling in all the retail players into classic. And as you can guess the people still playing retail are some of the most worst kind of players in the sense of min max to hell and being just generally miserable people to be around.
Really wish we had private servers of older versions of vanilla.
>ywn be fighting 5 other hunters trying to tame lupos for his full shadow damage .
>ywn play in old alterac valley with the side routes open up.
Private servers are unironically way better, holy shit. Ganker told me its just Brazilians and ruskies, but thats not right, it actually feels like community. The only people chatting I've seen in classic wotlk so far are people advertising their polish guilds in global, feels like I'm on Warmane again, which is the worst private server in thst department but even there, I manage to make friends afre a day or two playing.
Half of Blizzards servers are farmers from Venezuela. The people that knocked on private servers for that are full of cope.
>playing on a stale server
that's on you
>stale server
Whata does thst even mean, I rolled on Jin'do which apparently launched like a week ago, its as "fresh" as possible
If you weren't there the second it opened it's stale according to these lunatics.
Can't wait ffoor Cata Classic so I can experience WoW's downfall all over again
Nothing.
Noone who posted so far even plays lmao. Ganker is worse than reddit
I played on launch yesterday for 2 hours and got bored
Everyone who plays it now seems too autistic
Shits boring as frick
wrong thread but what are the wait timers for dungeons in "Normal" wow not that revival shit?
I kinda got the itch to play my warrior or pala with gs but dont want to wait 40+ minutes for a party
On retail (normal WoW) it's practically zero, especially if you're tanking or healing.
has something changed since i played it two years ago or why is it so quick now?
Im lvl 40 i think, horde player and it always took around 50 minutes for random dungeons
I don't think anything changed. It's cross-realm as always and depends on how many people are leveling overall.
Its going great tbh. I love it and there's a lot to look forward to with buffed naxx and fancy dungeons
They got rid of the Cosby suite.
I dont remember questing in northrend taking this long bros, wtf. Barely made lvl 72
I know it's part of the experience but dear god I am so sick of levelling in this game.
I ghosted my friends and quit TBC after 3 days. I haven't spoken to them in a year.
>wanna resub and mess around for the sake of the good old days
>remember how boring the wotlk dungeons were
>there will be even more of a chore now without rdf
>remember there's a few months of Naxx ahead which is painfully easy, but also long as frick making it incredibly boring
>ulduar is cool, but that won't be out for a few months and even that gets boring after you fully clear it once
>OS and VoA are even more of a chore than the dungeons
>fricking Onyxia rehash
>FRICKING HALF A YEAR OF FRICKING TOC(im sure they will at least wont let it stay for that long this time)
>ICC is actually a pretty meh raid, lore aside
>SOTA and Isle of Conquest are pretty fricking shit
Honestly, I feel like the leveling is the best part of WotLK, the zones are amazing and I'm thinking of subbing just for that for a month maybe, but then I really don't wanna give nu-blizz a single cent and they kinda fricked up the leveling too with the meme boosts anyway...
Making a 60/70 twink and ganking/doing older raids with twinks is more fun than playing 80 tbh
they're making Ulduar and TOC drop item level equivalent gear, even they're not dumb enough to repeat that mistake
4-12 hour queue times while blaming the players. Guess the "engineering" in software engineering is dead at Blizzard
I'm on a full server and haven't experienced a single queue
That's not a good sign.
So what happened to those Naxx buffs, did anything happen?
WotLK was the swansong of an old MMO that should have been put out to pasture but fourteen years later is still being milked.
I honestly can't believe Ganker has morons giving SJW blizzard money
>SJW
opinion discarded
Asking me to pay $15 a month to play a game I've already played to death back in the day.
I like it TBC classic was terrible but a real classic+ would be the best.
All you had to do is make Classic+ and reboot the entire franchise. Retail is unsalvageable at this point. Just hit the RESET button and start over and do it better. Take the game from Classic into an entirely new direction.
never going to happen. the only good thing to come out of this is that private servers are free from the endless chase of blizzlike and are actually experimenting with custom content.
Shitzzard apparently is cracking down on private servers again right now, prolly cos of the wotlk launch, they just shut down one pretty big server and threatened another
Classic+ can't ever happen because all the talent has left Blizzard a long time ago
Why do morons want classic+ is beyond me
Who yhenfrick so you think its gonna make it, the same people making Shadowlands and Dragonflight, why so you think it will be much different?
Unironically, a Russian scammer did it better than nu-blizz ever could, just play on Turtle if yhats what you want
Everyone realized they'd already done all the content 12+ years ago.
Shit is kinda mid, no cap
Yes, this is straight bussing, for real for real, my ass is dead. Fellow kids.
Not bussin at all, actually
all I want to do is play classic vanilla again, I wish the classic+ and people who want aggressive changes would just suck start a shotgun, I don't want season of mastery, I just want to play classic vanilla again, the only thing I want blizzard to do is manage faction populations better and actually be aggressive when it comes to getting rid of botters and gold seller/buyers, that's it, I don't want fruit bowl censorship or twink incubuses, just give me fresh classic vanilla you fricking homosexual morons
Why? So you can raid naxx every week with braindead GDKP morons and then have nothing to do for 7 days?
I don't want to play retail wow
Just wait for Everlook in a month or two, its your best option
It exists. It's also not the same.
I played in 2008. There is just no reason to do it again. It wasn't that amazing. Even when I played in 2008 I quit for a period during Ulduar-ToC.