It's called growing up. Even Fromdrones are getting Souls Fatigue from Souls Privilege.
SOULS PRIVILEGE = the unique prerogative of From Shitware games to have bad or annoying game design choices to be defended as something good or special.
Can't pause the game = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's annoying design.
Forced to fight every enemy again = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's outdated design.
No game difficulty variations* = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's annoying design.
* A special note, the aversion to this has in part to do with the fact fromdrones fear the option of having a harder difficulty more than if there were an easier difficulty. This is due to the fact that they secretly fear not being able to beat it and thus not being badass enough; on the other hand, an easier difficulty "undoes" the merit of beating a supposedly difficult game, which is known to affect their weak egos and fragile, underachieving, uneventful lives.
Copy and pasting the same game design as a whole and reusing assets = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's being cheap and generic.
Having cryptic game mechanics, hidden walls, and other unexplained factors or other things that can't be figured out on your own = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's obscure game design.
Having sections, enemies or bosses that have unreasonable expectations of being able to figure out at first, thus necessarily forcing trial and error = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's artificial design.
It's called growing up. Even Fromdrones are getting Souls Fatigue from Souls Privilege.
SOULS PRIVILEGE = the unique prerogative of From Shitware games to have bad or annoying game design choices to be defended as something good or special.
Can't pause the game = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's annoying design.
Forced to fight every enemy again = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's outdated design.
No game difficulty variations* = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's annoying design.
* A special note, the aversion to this has in part to do with the fact fromdrones fear the option of having a harder difficulty more than if there were an easier difficulty. This is due to the fact that they secretly fear not being able to beat it and thus not being badass enough; on the other hand, an easier difficulty "undoes" the merit of beating a supposedly difficult game, which is known to affect their weak egos and fragile, underachieving, uneventful lives.
Copy and pasting the same game design as a whole and reusing assets = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's being cheap and generic.
Having cryptic game mechanics, hidden walls, and other unexplained factors or other things that can't be figured out on your own = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's obscure game design.
Having sections, enemies or bosses that have unreasonable expectations of being able to figure out at first, thus necessarily forcing trial and error = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's artificial design.
Enough is enough.
the >no difficulty select
thing always gets me. It's great design that your difficulty select is ingame balance and which build you go with and how hard you minmax it. I wish more games did it. It's my absolute favorite mechanic in an RPG because it means that the devs can actually balance content properly instead of just balancing around one "real" difficulty and the rest can get fricked
It's the opposite of unbalanced, it's perfect balance. Some playstyles are more challenging than others. All of them are viable
this is what all games should strive for
Nah you're just shit. There's only a few terrible runbacks in the entire series. You should have an easy time getting back to the bonfire if you're not a dogshit terrible moron.
homie how many times per day are motherfrickers knocking on your damn door?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Or baby starts crying
Or important phone call comes in
Or son calls for help from the yard
Or any number of things that you moronic zoomers do not yet have responsibility for
>I find not being able to pause the game immersive
This has got to be the most pathetically desperate fanboy cope I've ever seen in over 13 years on Ganker, and that's saying a lot.
8 months ago
Anonymous
No, for real. Imagine how much better Skyrim's combat would be if you couldn't just go into your inventory and eat 500 cheese wheels in a single frame. You have to take into account that your world can also be invaded at any time in souls games, which is the entire reason you can't pause the game in the first place. >but muh offline mo-
NPC invasions happen too when you don't such at the games and stay in human form
8 months ago
Anonymous
>No, for real. Imagine how much better Skyrim's combat would be if you couldn't just go into your inventory and eat 500 cheese wheels in a single frame.
I'm not even going to read the rest of your post because with one single sentence you have immediately proved yourself to be a complete and utter moron who cannot understand the most basic of concepts, as evidenced by the fact that someone complained about not being able to pause and you go into some completely unrelated topic about chugging health items.
I can feel the rage through this post, and I only read 1 and a half sentences of it
you know you can just use the mimic tear, right?
it's part of the game, give it a try
>Difficulty
This is always a low IQ take. Wasting time on difficulties just means we'd be losing content other places. Obviously soul games are appreciated because of the attention of detail that the game's have. The gameplay is tight. The bosses for the most part are good and if you're just going to add a half ass difficulty system that just adjust enemy HP and damage outputs. Then why even have it? Honestly, you're better off shilling to from software to just add a god mode in the options. Because how would you even do difficultly adjust each bosses moveset for each difficulty level? Remove some attacks on lower add some on higher? Slow them down or speed them up? Or just make them fragile as paper bags or has tough as a tank? No matter what you choose off that list at the end of the day. If a game had 20 bosses, in the developer still had the same time crunch. They're just going to start cutting content
Half right, half moronic post.
You are absolutely right that Fromhacks get away with shit that other devs would be laughed at.
Elden Ring is a blatantly unfinished game. Imagine if ANY AAA title that released recently had quests like Soulsshit where you: >talk to NPC >click "interact" multiple times before they repeat themselves like robots, saying vague shit and laughing like schizos >rest at bonfire/reload the game/quit out to menu to make sure to trigger next phase >rinse and repeat
Everyone would be livid. But because it's Fromsharts, they can do it.
unironically this what made those devs guerrilla games and other studio seeth so much.
The amount of "passes" and mental gymnastics that are done to justify flawed design in some loved games are unreal
I will take starfield as an example since it is the blacksheep of criticism this month >no fov slider >super dated graphics and awful performance at launch >lack of simple easy to acquire detailed map >bugginess that encourage exploits and cheesing the game. >robotic looking human npcs >copy pasted location and npcs for grinding >useless/cryptic items >it gets much better after 10 hours >it is just more of the same old games/design of studio with not enough innovation (skyrim/dark souls)
This is suddenly used as justification for call starfield trash but for elden ring it was "okay" and "part of the design". I am not saying that starfield is good game or that elden ring is a bad game but it is crazy how flaws appear and disspear for gaymers depending on their fanboyism
>no fov slider
Elden Ring isn't a first person game so the importance of a fov slider is lessened.
>super dated graphics and awful performance at launch
It ran fine, Starfield runs on my PC at 30fps on low settings with upscaler, Elden Ring ran natively at 70-110fps depending on location on medium settings and looked better, at 1440p btw.
>lack of simple easy to acquire detailed map
Elden Ring also has a completely functional map.
>bugginess that encourage exploits and cheesing the game.
Elden Ring launched comparatively polished except for a couple bugs that let yo ucheese content, but you would never come across them randomly. Starfield you run into gamebreaking bugs just playing normally and have to reload/console command.
>robotic looking human npcs
Elden Ring NPCs are fine for what they are
>copy pasted location and npcs for grinding
Elden Ring has zero copypasted shit. The hero graves are the closest to being copypasted, but it's really just their tileset being reused. The actual layout is always unique.
>useless/cryptic items
Give example for ER?
>it gets much better after 10 hours
Limgrave is considered to be the best part of Elden Ring, the literal start
>it is just more of the same old games/design of studio with not enough innovation
It literally went from non open world to open world. Also came up with an entirely new setting with GRRM. This is the one souls game you can't bring that criticism for.
Literally untrue wienersucker. It ran fine from the start without upscaling. I havent played such a well optimized AAA game since and thats not an exaggeration.
The only issue it had was that the first boss was near a loadzone which caused short freezes if you kited him across it. That was literally one location. It wasn't bad optimization it was just a misplaced loadzone and they fixed it within a week.
>I havent played such a well optimized AAA game since and thats not an exaggeration.
Why every Fromdrone always has to insert at least one blatantly false, utterly moronic, delusional fanboy statement in every post. Holy shit. You have never played an optimized game in your life.
They still cannot go above 60 FPS cap.
>It ran fine from the start
Right, which is why the Metacritic scores for PC are like a point and a half lower than they are for console. Because it "ran fine".
8 months ago
Anonymous
NTA, I beat it in the first two weeks on PC so it clearly ran well enough
8 months ago
Anonymous
>if it beat it cuz works on my machine it means that performance was good
This has to be bait. No way are you actually this stupid.
8 months ago
Anonymous
and people did beat starfield before release. what was your point again?
Compared to starfield yes it did
I'm playing through starfield right now and I've had to use the console 3 times already to set quest stages in the MAIN QUEST. Console players would've had to reload hours back to fix these things
Why am I not at all surprised that the same degree of low-IQ mental moronation that causes Soulshomosexuals to suck off poorly designed corporate products and simp for shitty design, would also cause someone to be low-IQ enough to buy a fricking Bethesda game at launch.
This is why it's a dead giveaway that all fromhomosexuals are morons and zoomers.
>people buy the game at full price >they're shit at it and can't beat margitt even with summons >drop a negative review and make threads like this and posts like
Many such cases, ER is a masterpiece
I find it funny Elden Ring won game of the year. It's a hard 7.5/10 experience. No I'm not talking about difficulty, I own and have beaten every souls game. The game is just the same copy and pasted experience as all their other games, but this time you jump without sprinting and holding down Circle, and have a magic horse. There are a lot of repetitive bosses, especially in those dungeons. Sure some areas are shinier than others but that fades away. After a while you just start getting back into the habit of playing Dark Souls 4 and do what you do in every game. Kill boss, collect special power, become god.
This is it. I usually replay souls game in SL1 and BL4 but this time I just noped out because the game is so boring to play too much filler and the world is boring.
Absolute anal devastation for Fromgays, this dude nailed it. Hard to believe Nintendo was snubbed last year because of this and will be this year for troony Gate 3. The west is dead.
this. the game is flawless. in fact it's one of the best games ever made. nothing comes close to it. imagine being a kid growing up and you get to experience this as one of your first games. it's insane.
You can skip 99% of the starter zone and miss nothing. The rune return rate sucks and there's only a handful of good items in the zone .
Even if you're bad like me you can kill Margit at starter RL /w the Spirit Wolves summon.
The minidungeons are all generic so by the time you get to the endgame if you're doing 100% you'll be sick to death of them.
It's a good game, but the open world bloat is fricking awful.
i won't deny the dungeons are clones, but when you approach the game fresh it's still mesmerizing to find different enemies across each region in the eternal cities or even just the minor erdtree catacombs.
>his. the game is flawless.
Why does your generation refuse to accept nuance? It is one of the best games made in the last decade, yes. It is good, yes. It is FAR from flawless though you fricking moron.
>Hating popular stuff is normalgay shit
How is it even possible that someone has an IQ so low that they wrote such a statement and don't see the problem with it?
childish take. you clearly don't know who normies are and what they do. you're probalby a normie yourself, so you don't have a wide enough angle to take it all in.
What kind of rating system does Metacritic use?
What kind of rating system does Steam use?
If you can't see why they are basically the same based upon answering the above, then you are too stupid and I can't help you.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Ok but what about how 7.8 on metacritic is equivalent to 93% positive on steam, which is what you said? Can you explain? How did you come to that conclusion?
8 months ago
Anonymous
I've given you enough help. If you honestly cannot see how these two different rating systems behave and interact then it's an IQ problem and I can't help you.
8 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but if you can’t succinctly explain your stance with words then you are the low IQ one, which is clearly the case.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, I'm just not going to engage with low-IQ people. Even if I take 30 minutes trying to explain it they wont understand, and even if they do, they will still be a moron afterwards, just now a moron who had a concept spoon fed to them.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Are you moronic?
It's not 'his stance' that the rating systems are different.
If you can't look at them and figure out the difference you are either trolling or truly, deeply stupid.
One is a Pass/Fail system, in this case Positive/Negative.
90% Positive rating means that 90% of reviewers gave it a positive review.
The other system is 0/1-10. Positive cutoff for most things is generally a 6 or 7. If a game has a 7+ score then it has mostly positive reviews unless it's a weird edge case where half of the reviewers give it like a 4 and the other half give it a 10.
It's not fricking complicated.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You must be moronic. His stance was that 6.8 on metacritic and 93% are the “same score” which is a statement that demands evidence and is probably incorrect.
8 months ago
Anonymous
It's entirely possible for it to be the same score in a theoretical scenario.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Do you see now why I don't bother explaining it to them? You will have to type out a damn 3 page dissertation going tiny step by tiny step, and even then they still probably will not get it. They are dumb as dog shit and always will be.
8 months ago
Anonymous
He's trying to say those two different scores are the same though, a seven point eight and a nine point three
8 months ago
Anonymous
Holy fricking frick.
One system is binary.
The other is 0-10.
It's not a 9.3 it's a 93% you mouth breathing goon.
That means out of 100 reviews:
93 are positive
7 are negative
A 7.8 can have a 93% positive review like this over 100 reviews
18 Reviews are 10/10
75 Reviews are 8/10
(This means 93 reviews out of 100 are positive)
7 Reviews are 0/10
That comes out to a rating of 7.8
This is basic 8th grade or lower algebra you fricking moronic frick.
8 months ago
Anonymous
“It’s possible these scores are the same” and “these are the same score” are two very different statements. “These are the same score” is what was originally claimed, and it requires evidence, which that anon has absolutely none of because he pulled it out of his butthole.
8 months ago
Anonymous
So you pulled it out of your ass completely and it's not actually the same score, it's just that it could align with very specific numbers. got it
8 months ago
Anonymous
>t. anon can't comprehend theoreticals
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nah frick off. I understand completely now why you didnt want to actually put down concrete numbers, the assumption only works with those specific numbers lol
8 months ago
Anonymous
So they're very different
Understood
Imagine not understanding basic math.
You must be American.
8 months ago
Anonymous
your vague moronic bullshit posts dont work after you already laid it out and everyone can see how moronic you are buddy. Next time just keep up the moronic >omg u cant figure it out still????
without ever explaining it, you'll seem marginally smarter
8 months ago
Anonymous
>claims the two scores can't be the same >gets disproved >cries >but the real numbers!!!
8 months ago
Anonymous
Never said they can't be the same, you were the one who claimed they ARE the same. It's funny that you genuinely can't see the difference. moronic homosexual. Get humbled son
8 months ago
Anonymous
There are multiple posts in the thread claiming they can't be.
Ok but what about how 7.8 on metacritic is equivalent to 93% positive on steam, which is what you said? Can you explain? How did you come to that conclusion?
So you can't explain why 7.8 is the same thing as 93%?
I'm asking for mathemathical proof. It's okay if you can't do it.
I don't think 7.8 and 93 are the same score. But that's just my opinion.
8 months ago
Anonymous
These posts are all asking you to clarify your claim that they ARE the same, not that they can or can't be. Get fricking humbled moron. 80 IQ monkey Black person.
8 months ago
Anonymous
NTA that made the original claim and no, they aren't.
I'm sorry your brain doesn't function correctly.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>be brazilian favela monkey >fail algebra because you spent all your time jerking off while fantasizing about huffing miyazaki's farts >come on Ganker and get embarrassed by failing to understand simple concepts
I know the only time you deal in numbers is when you are mule-ing cocaine for the cartel, but there is more than addition and subtraction.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>if I pretend i'm not wrong I wont be wrong
insane
you were asked to clarify how 7.8 is "the same" as 93% in a binary system, and all you could come up with was a specific arrangement of scores that could result in the same outcome depending on your arbitrary definition of whats "positive" and whats "negative" (is 5/10 negative or positive?)
you lost, get fricking humbled. 70 IQ fricking Black person monkey. Gorilla Black person
8 months ago
Anonymous
NTA
Metacritic clearly shows the rating ranges for their three categories of negative, mixed, positive. It's not arbitrary.
8 months ago
Anonymous
....so if something is mixed, is it within the binary system of steam equivalent to a negative or a positive recommendation?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Obviously neither.
The example provided doesn't use mixed scores.
8 months ago
Anonymous
So it's not equivalent then and any attempt to translate it to a steam store by individual score is arbitrary, which is what the conversation is about if you scroll up.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>any attempt to translate it to a steam store by individual score is arbitrary,
Wrong.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You're an idiot.
Steam has 80/20 split
Metacritic has 80/5/15 split
Both are 80% positive >but Metacritic has 5% mixed!!!
8 months ago
Anonymous
Ok so explain how 7.8 on metacritic is equivalent to 93% on steam
8 months ago
Anonymous
It's already been explained that they can theoretically be the same in this thread
8 months ago
Anonymous
so if it can theoretically be the same does that mean it is currently the same and the stores are equivalent?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>the stores are equivalent?
What?
8 months ago
Anonymous
scores*
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yes.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You're an idiot.
Steam has 80/20 split
Metacritic has 80/5/15 split
Both are 80% positive >but Metacritic has 5% mixed!!!
You are a dumb homosexual. It's 74% positive. 7% "mixed" should be considered negative. If you actual read steam reviews you'd know that someone with a mixed reaction will MOST OFTEN give it a negative vote because there IS NO OTHER OPTION. That is the correct "theoretical" comparison between the two if you were being honest or even knew what the frick you were talking about.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Dumbass
8 months ago
Anonymous
Anons stay crying
8 months ago
Anonymous
So they're very different
Understood
8 months ago
Anonymous
glad you finally agree they aren't the same
8 months ago
Anonymous
So you can't explain why 7.8 is the same thing as 93%?
8 months ago
Anonymous
All the information you need to figure it out has already been posted. More than you need, actually.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I'm asking for mathemathical proof. It's okay if you can't do it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>
Holy fricking frick.
One system is binary.
The other is 0-10.
It's not a 9.3 it's a 93% you mouth breathing goon.
That means out of 100 reviews:
93 are positive
7 are negative
A 7.8 can have a 93% positive review like this over 100 reviews
18 Reviews are 10/10
75 Reviews are 8/10
(This means 93 reviews out of 100 are positive)
7 Reviews are 0/10
That comes out to a rating of 7.8
This is basic 8th grade or lower algebra you fricking moronic frick.
8 months ago
Anonymous
metacritic users vote either 10 or 0 because they only ever vote extremes
steam users vote either positive or negative
still the same shit.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>metacritic users vote either 10 or 0 because they only ever vote extremes
Wildly untrue.
God awful bosses that demand far too much from the player to be fun.
Pointless open world.
Absolutely fricked upgrades. Why do normal weapons take so much more to upgrade than uniques?
Bloating and shit strats.
The game has such severe difficulty spikes it makes the flashy anime style fights come to an end because a single attack can one shot you if you didn't level up vigor.
This led to many players using the same broken strategies like mimic tear so they could stand a chance.
Literally all the game needed to be better was to tone down the whole "Le hardcore" garbage reddit loves so much.
>le it's an online game cope
2009 and you homosexuals are still coping with the fact that Soulshit games are NOT exclusively online >b-b-b-b-but playing offline mode is not what LE DEVELOPERS INTENDED
Seethe. Cope. Dilate.
>Oh, you don't like something in a game? Mod it away and not complain about it, ever. >Yes, this only applies to the games I personally, jerk off to, how could you tell?
Stop posting your own pics on Ganker
I even got one I took of you, here. >d-do I j-just mod stuff I don't like?
that's what modding is for, genius >I can't complain about stuff anymore waaaaah
only when your opinion is complete trash and wouldn't make the game better, and also when you complain about the pettiest shit ever just because you didn't like the game.
Just quit to the main menu if you want a pause, the game continues from where you left, is your IQ too low to figure that out?
>You can only complain about what *I* would complain!
8 months ago
Anonymous
having a meltdown now, aren't we? Cool off and stop posting your own pics here, kek
8 months ago
Anonymous
Cobson never said that
>You're at risk of invasion in Dark Souls even if you play in offline mode because of the NPC invasions
No you aren't. They are scripted at certain locations. It would be the simplest thing in the world to disable the pause button upon being invaded the same way the fog door or quit button is coded.
But who am I kidding, Fromsoft is legendarily incompetent and will always have an army of simps slurping whatever poorly designed feature they shit out out, and coming up with bizarre copes about how "umm actually missing basic gameplay features is a good thing".
>umm actually missing basic gameplay features is a good thing
Pausing is non-gameplay
It's a pause of gameplay, if you will
8 months ago
Anonymous
Cobson is unequivocally known for his positive opinions on Soulshit and BBC, therefore it is 100% proven by induction he did, in fact, say that.
There's literal NPC invasions in the game you fricking moron.
>No, for real. Imagine how much better Skyrim's combat would be if you couldn't just go into your inventory and eat 500 cheese wheels in a single frame.
I'm not even going to read the rest of your post because with one single sentence you have immediately proved yourself to be a complete and utter moron who cannot understand the most basic of concepts, as evidenced by the fact that someone complained about not being able to pause and you go into some completely unrelated topic about chugging health items.
It's 100% related to pausing, and how not being able to pause a game can be more immersive. The way you chug healing items in that shitty game is to pause the game.
>There's literal NPC invasions in the game you fricking moron.
Still offline, moron. Plus nearly every game has enemies that will at the very least "invade" the vicinity of wherever you are.
You can pause Sekiro and use items from the inventory menu while paused.
It has nothing to do with the game being paused because using the item triggers an animation that must finish before you can use another one.
I don't know if Skyrim doesn't have eating/drinking animations as a default, but I know it doesn't lock you into them which is why you can spam cheese wheels.
It makes sense for Sekiro since that game doesn't have invasions or an online aspect at all (like player messages). It's a purely singleplayer game. You're at risk of invasion in Dark Souls even if you play in offline mode because of the NPC invasions.
>You're at risk of invasion in Dark Souls even if you play in offline mode because of the NPC invasions
No you aren't. They are scripted at certain locations. It would be the simplest thing in the world to disable the pause button upon being invaded the same way the fog door or quit button is coded.
But who am I kidding, Fromsoft is legendarily incompetent and will always have an army of simps slurping whatever poorly designed feature they shit out out, and coming up with bizarre copes about how "umm actually missing basic gameplay features is a good thing".
>people on Ganker know that you can't pause an always online game
There's literally dozens of online games that you can pause. Guess I shouldn't be surprised that Fromhomosexuals are zoomers who started gaming in 2017.
it is literally the worst souls game by a wide margin and worse than sekiro
normalgay shitters just love love slop because muh open world and spirit summons that kill the bosses for them while they watch the cool anime movesets
>no PoC >no LGBTQ+ inclusiveness >no pride parades >no pronouns >no body type 1 body type 2 >no mandatory sex scenes
doomed from the start. glad to see it getting cancelled, we dont need anymore of this white male power fantasy fascist garbage.
>no body type 1 body type 2
there's exactly that shit on the first screen in the game and chock full of feminist hogwash where most of the powerful characters in charge of things are women
why do people push this bulllshit about elden ring not being progressive, it ticks every progressive box except having gays everywhere
>These FROMSOFTWARE games have struck a chord with a particular type of gamer - and I daresay, not a classic gamer that have explored various genres. There's a writer named Dan Brown, whose fiction novels garnered A LOT of critical acclaim; but amongst those of us who enjoy a good sleuth, and have much experience with various crafts-people of the trade, we knew a charlatan when we saw him. See, Dan Brown relied a on a 'rinse-and-repeat' style of writing - a 'writing-by-numbers', if you will. In essence, each story contained the same characters, plot devices, story arcs and climaxes. It was cheap - and, might I add, intellectually insulting. But despite the objective criticism of connoisseurs, the media machine was fully behind Dan Brown, and the Asch Phenomenon claimed another victory. So, too, to FROMSOFTWARE's rinse-and-repeat genre. I refunded all of my FS purchases safely within the allotted window before I was stuck with an intellectual insult. "Souls-like" should NOT be 'a thing'; more appropriately for the RPG-genre, "Fable-like", or "Witcher 3-like" - but this farcical, reskinned money-grab does not deserve a category unto itself. The power of marketing (and mass persuasion) indeed....
>Open world is giant, empty, boring, and only exists to pad out game time >Torrent dies at the drop of a hat in later areas with no way to upgrade him >Crafting is useless and feels tacked on >Poise is nonexistent because it was broken in DS1 and From decided they're just never going to try and fix it >Reused enemies/bosses everywhere because of the open world >Most weapons are samey and might as well be filler (this is a problem with most souls games though) >Melina is treated as an important character you're supposed to care about yet only shows up a handful of times, most of which are optional and easily missable >Side character quest progression is the same as in older games except now in the already mentioned giant open world >From still hasn't figured out how to make locking on to giant enemies bearable >Last boss of the game starts really cool and decently challenging with Radagon and then drops off a cliff with Elden Beast being a horribly easy slog where 80% of the fight is just running after it >Not enough porn of Ranni using all four arms on your tarnished tackle
Still pretty good game. I enjoyed the 200 hours I put into it but probably won't play it again
From get away with oudated game design. Here is shit From didn't fix over last fricking 13 years and 7 games in Elden Ring: >no covenants >no factions >zero consequences for any action you do >back to rolling instead of BB sidestep >back to "snap behind enemy" backstab instead of charged backstab from BB >stealth and stealth kills are janky and never worth doing as opposed to Sekiro, where it at least always kills the enemy and is faster/snappier >posture system is fricked and nonsensical with arbitrary rules, no stance bar on enemies unlike Sekiro, because you'd constantly see how much the game cheats and just resets the bar or ignores your damage for bosses >you have complex level design like Stormveil and Leyndell but it's pointless because there are graces everywhere, including between shortcuts, which defeats the point as you can teleport anywhere, at any time, don't even need to rest at grace to do it >enemies still can be leashed and will stop chasing you too quickly >you can still just run past encounters >Level Up Girl finally doesn't have shitton of dialogue before the level up screen but instead speaks in the background, but this time she is absent from 99% of the game >archery is still done with the most basic implementation, that is also either not worth doing or worth doing only with some broken exploit >levels are the same shitty gauntlets over and over, never again they had a level like Blighttown or Depths or Sen's Fortress that have unique theme or change the pace >ripostes still break on slopes >pressing lock-on resets camera in front and you cannot turn it off, i never used that function in my 1000 hours in these games >input buffering is still fricked, not an issue in slower game like DeS and DaS, completely unacceptable in a game the speed of Elden Ring >story is still nonsensical clusterfrick because cut content and rewrites, even though DeS and DaS had simple, good stories >NPCs are immortal and now there are no-fight zones for casuls
And more.
buffering is still fricked, not an issue in slower game like DeS and DaS, completely unacceptable in a game the speed of Elden Ring
This is my personal pet peeve, why the frick does it even exist at all? Why not just ignore the input completely if it cannot be done due to being stuck in the middle of another action? Would have been easier to code too. It's like they intentionally made it bad on purpose.
Archery was good in Dark Souls 2 with ring of blades +2 and Flynn's Ring because of the flat 100 AR increase.
You sound too much like Matthewmatosis here
Elden Ring really felt unfinished. The world was too empty, story was again a messy clusterfrick for no reason whatsoever when it didn't need to be, because there are more political and family themes and relationship dramas, so having the characters actually express themselves would be a neat change and would make me more invested in all of this shit.
It also did not improve on the mechanics and didn't innovate enough. Seriously, i have never seen this expressed, but am i the only one who is fricking fed up with their games having the fricking '99' jRPG stat limit? It's so fricking stupid, even From themselves know it, so they introduce moronic "soft caps" and hard caps for stat gain because their own system is so moronic, instead of redesigning it.
Best part is that if they just scaled that shit down or redid the system to be more about horizontal progression instead of vertical, it would balance the game better and maybe one of the biggest issues of the game would be avoided (where you are either under or overpowered depending on area).
>indie studio from japan makes the best game of our generation and wins every award in the world >a bunch of ESL incels spend more than a year seething about it for no clear reason
If this is the best use of an intern they can think of, AAA studios are even more fricked than what I thought
Metacritic user score or Steam
Either one, take your pick. You wont even find a Fromsoft game in the top 10 for any year.
Trying to claim game journo scores at all proves unequivocally that you are completely dishonest and disingenuous given that it's common knowledge journos are troony homosexuals that are paid for reviews..
8 months ago
Anonymous
>plebs getting filtered by a game slightly more difficult than zelda (game for children) means they're not GOTY
Surely you're taking the piss here, you can't be THIS moronic
8 months ago
Anonymous
>it got lower users scores than journo scores because gamers are not as skilled as game journalists and all got filtered
One of these days there will be a fromhomosexual that is not completely dishonest, but it's not today.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>all got filtered
You're talking about a 20% negative reviews so "all" is dishonest, coincidentally only 73% of the people who bought the game from steam have the margitt achievement so yes. That's 27% of people paying $60 and not beating the first boss, that's your negative reviews right there. I wouldn't talk about dishonesty while lying in the same post buddy
8 months ago
Anonymous
>it got lower users scores than journo scores because gamers are not as skilled as game journalists and all got filtered
One of these days there will be a fromhomosexual that is not completely dishonest, but it's not today.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>mind broken
I accept your concession, Elden Ring is a confirmed masterpiece
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Elden Ring is a confirmed masterpiece >Source: Transexual Game Journalists
lol
That's funny because everyone other than them seem to think it's just "ok"
8 months ago
Anonymous
>industry awards le bad >imaginary consensus based on my HRT induced schizophrenia le good
Based frombroken troony, just use summons dude Margitt is not that hard
8 months ago
Anonymous
>aggregate user reviews are "imaginary "consensus
This is what happens when your entire identity is tied to worshipping a consumer product. You just humiliate yourself over and over saying increasingly desperate and nonsensical things defending it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>sites where reviewbombing is notriously easy are indicative of anything
8 months ago
Anonymous
>you can't trust Steam because Reviewbombing the only valid review is game journalists
This is what happens when your entire identity is tied to worshipping a consumer product. You just humiliate yourself over and over saying increasingly desperate and nonsensical things defending it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You couldn't even come up with a counter argument
8 months ago
Anonymous
Your argument is that literally Game Journalists are skilled and trustworthy, and are a better indication of quality than user reviews.
I'm not going to attack it with a counterargument because just repeating your argument humiliates you enough in the eyes of anyone with a functioning cerebrum.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm not going to attack it with a counterargument
Cool, I accept your concession then. I noticed you ignored how the percentage of negative reviews is actually lower than the people who couldn't beat the first boss in the game too, two BTFOs in one thread new low for you huh
8 months ago
Anonymous
So you have nothing. You gave up already.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Game Journalists are skilled and trustworthy, and are a better indication of quality than user reviews
Ok buddy
>I'm not going to attack it with a counterargument
Cool, I accept your concession then. I noticed you ignored how the percentage of negative reviews is actually lower than the people who couldn't beat the first boss in the game too, two BTFOs in one thread new low for you huh
>couldn't beat
Reddit meme detected. Rest of post ignored.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Rest of post ignored.
Sure I accept your concession AGAIN, as many times as you need
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nah only the 27% of steam players that unironically, unarguably couldn't beat the first boss. Since the game has less than 27% negative reviews, the actual consensus by the people who actually played it beyond Margitt is that it is a masterpiece. I really can't explain it in simpler terms, please apply yourself
>I'm not going to attack it with a counterargument
Cool, I accept your concession then. I noticed you ignored how the percentage of negative reviews is actually lower than the people who couldn't beat the first boss in the game too, two BTFOs in one thread new low for you huh
absolutely mindbroken troony lmao
now this is some i robot tier feedback loop shit
8 months ago
Anonymous
>still can't refute the argument
Why are you doing this to yourself? Is it some kind of weird humilliation fetish or something?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Your argument is that game journalists are trustworthy. Lol.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I would posit that both reviews from critics and reviews from users are unreliable metrics with which to judge a game. Caring about reviews scores at all is a path to nowhere. The only time it's useful is when something is so obviously bad that there are no positive reviews at all. Any qualms about a 1-3 difference in score are literally meaningless.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>I would posit that both reviews from critics and reviews from users are unreliable metrics
And you would only do so because you are mentally ill and worship a product and cannot cope with it being less than perfect and thus are looking for any possible out as to why it received less than perfect scores. Users scores are an absolutely acceptable metric of quality, and correlate to quality very strongly except in extreme edge cases (indie games with 5 reviews or something).
8 months ago
Anonymous
I'm saying that no one should care about review scores unless they indicate that something is wrong with the game that makes it unusable. I have no idea about the person that you're arguing with in your head thinks but it has nothing to do with what I said. User reviews are not quantifiable judgements of quality because user reviews can be manipulated or skewed by personal motivation. Any percentage difference outside of the bottom of 30% means literally nothing when it comes to any review.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>User reviews are not quantifiable judgements of quality
That's literally exactly what they are. >because user reviews can be manipulated or skewed by personal motivation.
Yes? Which is why you look at the aggregate given a large enough sample size.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>27% of the people who paid $60 for the game couldn't beat the first boss >less than 20% negative reviews
So it's a masterpiece, glad we finally agree.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>couldn't
Yes clearly no one would stop playing a game they thought was bad, it was all people who tried 500 times and couldnt do it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>dropping a game before beating the first boss
Yeah, they couldn't and then they dropped a negative review or became obsessed trannies like (you). Sad story anyways
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, every single person that didn't uncritically worship Elden Ring only did so because they couldn't beat a boss. Great logic, really raising the bar for discussion and providing a positive impression of the Fromsoft fanbase.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nah only the 27% of steam players that unironically, unarguably couldn't beat the first boss. Since the game has less than 27% negative reviews, the actual consensus by the people who actually played it beyond Margitt is that it is a masterpiece. I really can't explain it in simpler terms, please apply yourself
8 months ago
Anonymous
3/10 bait, some effort but way too obvious
8 months ago
Anonymous
>can't refute the point >"y-you're trolling"
LOL
8 months ago
Anonymous
There is no point. Boss completion has nothing to do with anything.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Boss completion
Not finishing the first boss is a special kind of lacking "boss completion" isn't it my dishonest discord troony friend? That's people like you who got completely filtered after paying money and dropped a negative review after that. Discounting that 27%, the game is rated as one of the best in history, rightly so
8 months ago
Anonymous
>le filtered
Low IQ reddit meme detected, rest of post ignored. Concession accepted.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>no argument >mind broken
See
>Rest of post ignored.
Sure I accept your concession AGAIN, as many times as you need
Yea you even have the choice between greatspears and regular spears. Both are fun and viable and there's a lot of cool unique spears around.
Uniquely they can attack while blocking too so they go pretty well with shields
People who ritualistically pirate games only to complain about them after they don't play them aren't exactly people you can trust to not hold insane grudges even decades later
There is such an insane amount of samegayging in this thread. 192 posts and 61 IPs. Every discord troon thread shitting on ER is like this. Why don't the mods do their jobs?
>1 to 1 ratio
every single anti ER thread is samegayged. this has been going on for nearly two years. i'm pretty sure mods used to delete obvious schizo threads like this once upon a time, i guess they've completely given up
90% of the threads who are anti Japan games, shilling X game for weeks or months( baldur troony gate), gacha etc have around 100 unique IP's, even if the replies numbers are over 500
I guess bots/shills don't know how to change the IP
Why are they like this?
tribalism and consumerism, sonyBlacks are still a cancer on this board, not as bad as 4-5 years ago, they were spamming endless yellow face back then, but now you have more cancer like them, gacha gays, twitter/discord spammers, more shills than ever, more anti american/japanese games threads, etc.
It was one of the biggest flops in vidya history. I still remember the weeks following the release, the catalogue was nothing but threads showcasing how pathetic the game was.
Elden Ring discussion is absolutely fricked
It is my personal very close to 10/10 and goty of the probably decade, but whenever I sum up the game and mention anything I perceived as flawed and could've been better it's instantly >YOU JUST SUCK, YOU JUST DIDN'T BEAT IT THATS WHY YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT >SKILL ISSUE
meanwhile whenever I praise the game for anything it's >LMAO FROM SHILL WHY ARE YOU STILL SHILLING THE GAME 2 YEARS AFTER RELEASE??? >FROM DRONES ARE SO DELUSIONAL
it's just tiresome to discuss this game. You can discuss almost any other game but this game is just endless seethe and you can't share any opinion on it or you instantly get involved in some homosexual flame war between people who probably didn't even play the game
Wait a second, Elden Ring has 92% very positive reviews on steam with over 530k ratings, that's one of the best ratings of all time, what's this troony rambling about elden ring getting trashed on user reviews?
It's a mile wide puddle deep with poor levels outside of the first castle. It's always like this with fromsoft the level design just stops existing after the first 2 areas. Having 100 spells means nothing if they all do essentially the same thing. Boss design was more obnoxious than anything and the bosses repeat. Story may as well not exist I don't know why morons think there's lore in these games.
your mom didn't abort
It's called growing up. Even Fromdrones are getting Souls Fatigue from Souls Privilege.
SOULS PRIVILEGE = the unique prerogative of From Shitware games to have bad or annoying game design choices to be defended as something good or special.
Can't pause the game = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's annoying design.
Forced to fight every enemy again = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's outdated design.
No game difficulty variations* = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's annoying design.
* A special note, the aversion to this has in part to do with the fact fromdrones fear the option of having a harder difficulty more than if there were an easier difficulty. This is due to the fact that they secretly fear not being able to beat it and thus not being badass enough; on the other hand, an easier difficulty "undoes" the merit of beating a supposedly difficult game, which is known to affect their weak egos and fragile, underachieving, uneventful lives.
Copy and pasting the same game design as a whole and reusing assets = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's being cheap and generic.
Having cryptic game mechanics, hidden walls, and other unexplained factors or other things that can't be figured out on your own = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's obscure game design.
Having sections, enemies or bosses that have unreasonable expectations of being able to figure out at first, thus necessarily forcing trial and error = good if there is souls privilege, otherwise it's artificial design.
Enough is enough.
It's okay but your pasta needs some adjustments, I'll take it if you don't mind 😉
You can only repeat the same formula so much until everyone has had enough of le ebin difficult game.
Yeah yeah whatever dude, I'm just going to write some over the top blm shit in it, Gankertards love that shit.
>Can't pause the game
Quit out
>Forced to fight every enemy again
Run past
>No game difficulty variations
Magic and summons
Casual can't figure out the most basic of game mechanics and blames the game for it
the
>no difficulty select
thing always gets me. It's great design that your difficulty select is ingame balance and which build you go with and how hard you minmax it. I wish more games did it. It's my absolute favorite mechanic in an RPG because it means that the devs can actually balance content properly instead of just balancing around one "real" difficulty and the rest can get fricked
>it's great design to have your game unbalanced
It's the opposite of unbalanced, it's perfect balance. Some playstyles are more challenging than others. All of them are viable
this is what all games should strive for
>>Can't pause the game
>Quit out
>go back in
>boss back at full health
>player not back at full health, consumables not replenished
It really boggles the mind the mental gymnastics shills will go to in order to defend indefensibly bad design choices.
Meh, there's like one bad boss run in the entire game I can recall.
Nah you're just shit. There's only a few terrible runbacks in the entire series. You should have an easy time getting back to the bonfire if you're not a dogshit terrible moron.
>well uh not being able to answer the door or pick up the phone is good because boss quality and bonfire placement and le skill
It really boggles the mind the mental gymnastics shills will go to in order to defend indefensibly bad design choices.
homie how many times per day are motherfrickers knocking on your damn door?
Or baby starts crying
Or important phone call comes in
Or son calls for help from the yard
Or any number of things that you moronic zoomers do not yet have responsibility for
>It's...bad...okay? But NOT with SOULS GAMES...because...because it's just okay then...because...it just is, okay?!
When did I say it's bad that other games do it?
I didn't, because I find not being able to pause the game immersive.
>I find not being able to pause the game immersive.
Sorry, can't relate. I have sex.
>I find not being able to pause the game immersive
This has got to be the most pathetically desperate fanboy cope I've ever seen in over 13 years on Ganker, and that's saying a lot.
No, for real. Imagine how much better Skyrim's combat would be if you couldn't just go into your inventory and eat 500 cheese wheels in a single frame. You have to take into account that your world can also be invaded at any time in souls games, which is the entire reason you can't pause the game in the first place.
>but muh offline mo-
NPC invasions happen too when you don't such at the games and stay in human form
>No, for real. Imagine how much better Skyrim's combat would be if you couldn't just go into your inventory and eat 500 cheese wheels in a single frame.
I'm not even going to read the rest of your post because with one single sentence you have immediately proved yourself to be a complete and utter moron who cannot understand the most basic of concepts, as evidenced by the fact that someone complained about not being able to pause and you go into some completely unrelated topic about chugging health items.
I can feel the rage through this post, and I only read 1 and a half sentences of it
you know you can just use the mimic tear, right?
it's part of the game, give it a try
Which reddit board did you get that from?
Idk if it's a copy pasta but that's the truest post i've read on goyslopware, absolute fromhomosexuals anihilation.
Saved.
>Difficulty
This is always a low IQ take. Wasting time on difficulties just means we'd be losing content other places. Obviously soul games are appreciated because of the attention of detail that the game's have. The gameplay is tight. The bosses for the most part are good and if you're just going to add a half ass difficulty system that just adjust enemy HP and damage outputs. Then why even have it? Honestly, you're better off shilling to from software to just add a god mode in the options. Because how would you even do difficultly adjust each bosses moveset for each difficulty level? Remove some attacks on lower add some on higher? Slow them down or speed them up? Or just make them fragile as paper bags or has tough as a tank? No matter what you choose off that list at the end of the day. If a game had 20 bosses, in the developer still had the same time crunch. They're just going to start cutting content
Half right, half moronic post.
You are absolutely right that Fromhacks get away with shit that other devs would be laughed at.
Elden Ring is a blatantly unfinished game. Imagine if ANY AAA title that released recently had quests like Soulsshit where you:
>talk to NPC
>click "interact" multiple times before they repeat themselves like robots, saying vague shit and laughing like schizos
>rest at bonfire/reload the game/quit out to menu to make sure to trigger next phase
>rinse and repeat
Everyone would be livid. But because it's Fromsharts, they can do it.
unironically this what made those devs guerrilla games and other studio seeth so much.
The amount of "passes" and mental gymnastics that are done to justify flawed design in some loved games are unreal
I will take starfield as an example since it is the blacksheep of criticism this month
>no fov slider
>super dated graphics and awful performance at launch
>lack of simple easy to acquire detailed map
>bugginess that encourage exploits and cheesing the game.
>robotic looking human npcs
>copy pasted location and npcs for grinding
>useless/cryptic items
>it gets much better after 10 hours
>it is just more of the same old games/design of studio with not enough innovation (skyrim/dark souls)
This is suddenly used as justification for call starfield trash but for elden ring it was "okay" and "part of the design". I am not saying that starfield is good game or that elden ring is a bad game but it is crazy how flaws appear and disspear for gaymers depending on their fanboyism
I mean you're also kind of full of shit.
>no fov slider
Elden Ring isn't a first person game so the importance of a fov slider is lessened.
>super dated graphics and awful performance at launch
It ran fine, Starfield runs on my PC at 30fps on low settings with upscaler, Elden Ring ran natively at 70-110fps depending on location on medium settings and looked better, at 1440p btw.
>lack of simple easy to acquire detailed map
Elden Ring also has a completely functional map.
>bugginess that encourage exploits and cheesing the game.
Elden Ring launched comparatively polished except for a couple bugs that let yo ucheese content, but you would never come across them randomly. Starfield you run into gamebreaking bugs just playing normally and have to reload/console command.
>robotic looking human npcs
Elden Ring NPCs are fine for what they are
>copy pasted location and npcs for grinding
Elden Ring has zero copypasted shit. The hero graves are the closest to being copypasted, but it's really just their tileset being reused. The actual layout is always unique.
>useless/cryptic items
Give example for ER?
>it gets much better after 10 hours
Limgrave is considered to be the best part of Elden Ring, the literal start
>it is just more of the same old games/design of studio with not enough innovation
It literally went from non open world to open world. Also came up with an entirely new setting with GRRM. This is the one souls game you can't bring that criticism for.
Overall you're a real wienersucker.
>It ran fine
Streamers literally stopped playing until patch dropped because performance was this bad.
Literally untrue wienersucker. It ran fine from the start without upscaling. I havent played such a well optimized AAA game since and thats not an exaggeration.
The only issue it had was that the first boss was near a loadzone which caused short freezes if you kited him across it. That was literally one location. It wasn't bad optimization it was just a misplaced loadzone and they fixed it within a week.
>I havent played such a well optimized AAA game since and thats not an exaggeration.
Why every Fromdrone always has to insert at least one blatantly false, utterly moronic, delusional fanboy statement in every post. Holy shit. You have never played an optimized game in your life.
They still cannot go above 60 FPS cap.
>It ran fine from the start
Right, which is why the Metacritic scores for PC are like a point and a half lower than they are for console. Because it "ran fine".
NTA, I beat it in the first two weeks on PC so it clearly ran well enough
>if it beat it cuz works on my machine it means that performance was good
This has to be bait. No way are you actually this stupid.
and people did beat starfield before release. what was your point again?
>Elden Ring launched comparatively polished
This has to be bait.
Compared to starfield yes it did
I'm playing through starfield right now and I've had to use the console 3 times already to set quest stages in the MAIN QUEST. Console players would've had to reload hours back to fix these things
>Compared to starfield
lol
>I'm playing through starfield right now
mega lol
Why am I not at all surprised that the same degree of low-IQ mental moronation that causes Soulshomosexuals to suck off poorly designed corporate products and simp for shitty design, would also cause someone to be low-IQ enough to buy a fricking Bethesda game at launch.
This is why it's a dead giveaway that all fromhomosexuals are morons and zoomers.
>people buy the game at full price
>they're shit at it and can't beat margitt even with summons
>drop a negative review and make threads like this and posts like
Many such cases, ER is a masterpiece
I find it funny Elden Ring won game of the year. It's a hard 7.5/10 experience. No I'm not talking about difficulty, I own and have beaten every souls game. The game is just the same copy and pasted experience as all their other games, but this time you jump without sprinting and holding down Circle, and have a magic horse. There are a lot of repetitive bosses, especially in those dungeons. Sure some areas are shinier than others but that fades away. After a while you just start getting back into the habit of playing Dark Souls 4 and do what you do in every game. Kill boss, collect special power, become god.
The game isn't amazing, innovative or new.
TLDR.
You will never be a woman and your raid failed over a year ago now. Get over it.
This is it. I usually replay souls game in SL1 and BL4 but this time I just noped out because the game is so boring to play too much filler and the world is boring.
Don't care to read that nonsense but I fell qualified in calling you wrong.
Absolute anal devastation for Fromgays, this dude nailed it. Hard to believe Nintendo was snubbed last year because of this and will be this year for troony Gate 3. The west is dead.
Hating popular stuff is normalgay shit
this. the game is flawless. in fact it's one of the best games ever made. nothing comes close to it. imagine being a kid growing up and you get to experience this as one of your first games. it's insane.
You can skip 99% of the starter zone and miss nothing. The rune return rate sucks and there's only a handful of good items in the zone .
Even if you're bad like me you can kill Margit at starter RL /w the Spirit Wolves summon.
The minidungeons are all generic so by the time you get to the endgame if you're doing 100% you'll be sick to death of them.
It's a good game, but the open world bloat is fricking awful.
i won't deny the dungeons are clones, but when you approach the game fresh it's still mesmerizing to find different enemies across each region in the eternal cities or even just the minor erdtree catacombs.
>his. the game is flawless.
Why does your generation refuse to accept nuance? It is one of the best games made in the last decade, yes. It is good, yes. It is FAR from flawless though you fricking moron.
>the game is flawless.
No it isn't
>in fact it's one of the best games ever made
This is true albeitever
>Hating popular stuff is normalgay shit
How is it even possible that someone has an IQ so low that they wrote such a statement and don't see the problem with it?
tpbp
childish take. you clearly don't know who normies are and what they do. you're probalby a normie yourself, so you don't have a wide enough angle to take it all in.
First Souls game I didn't buy.
>steam requires you to atleast have bought and tried the game to review it
>93% positive
>metacritic checks nothing
>7.8 userscore
l o l
Those are the same score, dumbass.
???
explain the logic behind what you just said
NTA, but you're joking right?
I asked for an explanation, can you provide it or not?
What kind of rating system does Metacritic use?
What kind of rating system does Steam use?
If you can't see why they are basically the same based upon answering the above, then you are too stupid and I can't help you.
Ok but what about how 7.8 on metacritic is equivalent to 93% positive on steam, which is what you said? Can you explain? How did you come to that conclusion?
I've given you enough help. If you honestly cannot see how these two different rating systems behave and interact then it's an IQ problem and I can't help you.
NTA but if you can’t succinctly explain your stance with words then you are the low IQ one, which is clearly the case.
Nah, I'm just not going to engage with low-IQ people. Even if I take 30 minutes trying to explain it they wont understand, and even if they do, they will still be a moron afterwards, just now a moron who had a concept spoon fed to them.
Are you moronic?
It's not 'his stance' that the rating systems are different.
If you can't look at them and figure out the difference you are either trolling or truly, deeply stupid.
One is a Pass/Fail system, in this case Positive/Negative.
90% Positive rating means that 90% of reviewers gave it a positive review.
The other system is 0/1-10. Positive cutoff for most things is generally a 6 or 7. If a game has a 7+ score then it has mostly positive reviews unless it's a weird edge case where half of the reviewers give it like a 4 and the other half give it a 10.
It's not fricking complicated.
You must be moronic. His stance was that 6.8 on metacritic and 93% are the “same score” which is a statement that demands evidence and is probably incorrect.
It's entirely possible for it to be the same score in a theoretical scenario.
Do you see now why I don't bother explaining it to them? You will have to type out a damn 3 page dissertation going tiny step by tiny step, and even then they still probably will not get it. They are dumb as dog shit and always will be.
He's trying to say those two different scores are the same though, a seven point eight and a nine point three
Holy fricking frick.
One system is binary.
The other is 0-10.
It's not a 9.3 it's a 93% you mouth breathing goon.
That means out of 100 reviews:
93 are positive
7 are negative
A 7.8 can have a 93% positive review like this over 100 reviews
18 Reviews are 10/10
75 Reviews are 8/10
(This means 93 reviews out of 100 are positive)
7 Reviews are 0/10
That comes out to a rating of 7.8
This is basic 8th grade or lower algebra you fricking moronic frick.
“It’s possible these scores are the same” and “these are the same score” are two very different statements. “These are the same score” is what was originally claimed, and it requires evidence, which that anon has absolutely none of because he pulled it out of his butthole.
So you pulled it out of your ass completely and it's not actually the same score, it's just that it could align with very specific numbers. got it
>t. anon can't comprehend theoreticals
Nah frick off. I understand completely now why you didnt want to actually put down concrete numbers, the assumption only works with those specific numbers lol
Imagine not understanding basic math.
You must be American.
your vague moronic bullshit posts dont work after you already laid it out and everyone can see how moronic you are buddy. Next time just keep up the moronic
>omg u cant figure it out still????
without ever explaining it, you'll seem marginally smarter
>claims the two scores can't be the same
>gets disproved
>cries
>but the real numbers!!!
Never said they can't be the same, you were the one who claimed they ARE the same. It's funny that you genuinely can't see the difference. moronic homosexual. Get humbled son
There are multiple posts in the thread claiming they can't be.
These posts are all asking you to clarify your claim that they ARE the same, not that they can or can't be. Get fricking humbled moron. 80 IQ monkey Black person.
NTA that made the original claim and no, they aren't.
I'm sorry your brain doesn't function correctly.
>be brazilian favela monkey
>fail algebra because you spent all your time jerking off while fantasizing about huffing miyazaki's farts
>come on Ganker and get embarrassed by failing to understand simple concepts
I know the only time you deal in numbers is when you are mule-ing cocaine for the cartel, but there is more than addition and subtraction.
>if I pretend i'm not wrong I wont be wrong
insane
you were asked to clarify how 7.8 is "the same" as 93% in a binary system, and all you could come up with was a specific arrangement of scores that could result in the same outcome depending on your arbitrary definition of whats "positive" and whats "negative" (is 5/10 negative or positive?)
you lost, get fricking humbled. 70 IQ fricking Black person monkey. Gorilla Black person
NTA
Metacritic clearly shows the rating ranges for their three categories of negative, mixed, positive. It's not arbitrary.
....so if something is mixed, is it within the binary system of steam equivalent to a negative or a positive recommendation?
Obviously neither.
The example provided doesn't use mixed scores.
So it's not equivalent then and any attempt to translate it to a steam store by individual score is arbitrary, which is what the conversation is about if you scroll up.
>any attempt to translate it to a steam store by individual score is arbitrary,
Wrong.
You're an idiot.
Steam has 80/20 split
Metacritic has 80/5/15 split
Both are 80% positive
>but Metacritic has 5% mixed!!!
Ok so explain how 7.8 on metacritic is equivalent to 93% on steam
It's already been explained that they can theoretically be the same in this thread
so if it can theoretically be the same does that mean it is currently the same and the stores are equivalent?
>the stores are equivalent?
What?
scores*
Yes.
You are a dumb homosexual. It's 74% positive. 7% "mixed" should be considered negative. If you actual read steam reviews you'd know that someone with a mixed reaction will MOST OFTEN give it a negative vote because there IS NO OTHER OPTION. That is the correct "theoretical" comparison between the two if you were being honest or even knew what the frick you were talking about.
Dumbass
Anons stay crying
So they're very different
Understood
glad you finally agree they aren't the same
So you can't explain why 7.8 is the same thing as 93%?
All the information you need to figure it out has already been posted. More than you need, actually.
I'm asking for mathemathical proof. It's okay if you can't do it.
>
One system is binary.
The other is 0-10.
It's not a 9.3 it's a 93% you mouth breathing goon.
That means out of 100 reviews:
93 are positive
7 are negative
A 7.8 can have a 93% positive review like this over 100 reviews
18 Reviews are 10/10
75 Reviews are 8/10
(This means 93 reviews out of 100 are positive)
7 Reviews are 0/10
That comes out to a rating of 7.8
This is basic 8th grade or lower algebra you fricking moronic frick.
metacritic users vote either 10 or 0 because they only ever vote extremes
steam users vote either positive or negative
still the same shit.
>metacritic users vote either 10 or 0 because they only ever vote extremes
Wildly untrue.
Are you actually moronic or are you just pretending?
I don't think 7.8 and 93 are the same score. But that's just my opinion.
>I don't think 7.8 and 93 are the same score.
They are.
>But that's just my opinion.
It's not a matter of opinion. 2+2=4 is not debatable.
moron doesn't understand irony and can't compare numbers, typical.
genuinely a boring game and a bad "dark souls" game.
Jealous?
Not at all
Keep kneeling, thirdworlder.
>530k reviews
holy mother of frick
Xing, is that you?
>5 anti-japanese games
hmm, i can smell your stink third world subhumans/eurotrash
Just replayed it. There's not a single decent boss in this game. Malenia comes closest to being fun.
Fire Giant is goat
It's shit
filtered
>fighting game player spams the same weak attack
God awful bosses that demand far too much from the player to be fun.
Pointless open world.
Absolutely fricked upgrades. Why do normal weapons take so much more to upgrade than uniques?
Bloating and shit strats.
The game has such severe difficulty spikes it makes the flashy anime style fights come to an end because a single attack can one shot you if you didn't level up vigor.
This led to many players using the same broken strategies like mimic tear so they could stand a chance.
Literally all the game needed to be better was to tone down the whole "Le hardcore" garbage reddit loves so much.
Formula is just stale at this point. I can tell why all the people who’ve never played a souls game before loved it. If you have it just feels tired.
>been out for a year and a half
>daily seethe threads the entire time
Absolute obsession, what is the motivation?
people on Ganker know that you can't pause an always online game, right?
>le it's an online game cope
2009 and you homosexuals are still coping with the fact that Soulshit games are NOT exclusively online
>b-b-b-b-but playing offline mode is not what LE DEVELOPERS INTENDED
Seethe. Cope. Dilate.
turn off your internet and download a pause mod then. Do that instead of coping on Ganker
>Oh, you don't like something in a game? Mod it away and not complain about it, ever.
>Yes, this only applies to the games I personally, jerk off to, how could you tell?
Stop posting your own pics on Ganker
I even got one I took of you, here.
>d-do I j-just mod stuff I don't like?
that's what modding is for, genius
>I can't complain about stuff anymore waaaaah
only when your opinion is complete trash and wouldn't make the game better, and also when you complain about the pettiest shit ever just because you didn't like the game.
Just quit to the main menu if you want a pause, the game continues from where you left, is your IQ too low to figure that out?
>You can only complain about what *I* would complain!
having a meltdown now, aren't we? Cool off and stop posting your own pics here, kek
Cobson never said that
>umm actually missing basic gameplay features is a good thing
Pausing is non-gameplay
It's a pause of gameplay, if you will
Cobson is unequivocally known for his positive opinions on Soulshit and BBC, therefore it is 100% proven by induction he did, in fact, say that.
>you WILL frick the bag!
There's literal NPC invasions in the game you fricking moron.
It's 100% related to pausing, and how not being able to pause a game can be more immersive. The way you chug healing items in that shitty game is to pause the game.
>There's literal NPC invasions in the game you fricking moron.
Still offline, moron. Plus nearly every game has enemies that will at the very least "invade" the vicinity of wherever you are.
>It's 100% related to pausing
No it isn't, and you are embarrassing yourself trying to conflate the two.
>b-b-but Skyrim
Don't care, not relevant.
>That's not how vidya works
It's how every other vidya made since the 80s works. Yet somehow Fromshit can't figure it out.
>>It's 100% related to pausing
>No it isn't
It's 100% related to pausing, and how not being able to pause a game can be more immersive
This has got to be the most pathetically desperate fanboy cope I've ever seen in over 13 years on Ganker, and that's saying a lot.
Also something tells me you are not white, which makes me lol.
You can pause Sekiro and use items from the inventory menu while paused.
It has nothing to do with the game being paused because using the item triggers an animation that must finish before you can use another one.
I don't know if Skyrim doesn't have eating/drinking animations as a default, but I know it doesn't lock you into them which is why you can spam cheese wheels.
It makes sense for Sekiro since that game doesn't have invasions or an online aspect at all (like player messages). It's a purely singleplayer game. You're at risk of invasion in Dark Souls even if you play in offline mode because of the NPC invasions.
>You're at risk of invasion in Dark Souls even if you play in offline mode because of the NPC invasions
No you aren't. They are scripted at certain locations. It would be the simplest thing in the world to disable the pause button upon being invaded the same way the fog door or quit button is coded.
But who am I kidding, Fromsoft is legendarily incompetent and will always have an army of simps slurping whatever poorly designed feature they shit out out, and coming up with bizarre copes about how "umm actually missing basic gameplay features is a good thing".
>people on Ganker know that you can't pause an always online game
There's literally dozens of online games that you can pause. Guess I shouldn't be surprised that Fromhomosexuals are zoomers who started gaming in 2017.
alright, I can pause my online game and ask everyone else in the world to please not invade me pls.
That's not how vidya works, mom.
Fell short of its predecessors
it is literally the worst souls game by a wide margin and worse than sekiro
normalgay shitters just love love slop because muh open world and spirit summons that kill the bosses for them while they watch the cool anime movesets
>no PoC
>no LGBTQ+ inclusiveness
>no pride parades
>no pronouns
>no body type 1 body type 2
>no mandatory sex scenes
doomed from the start. glad to see it getting cancelled, we dont need anymore of this white male power fantasy fascist garbage.
starfield won, transfolk won. cope.
>no PoC
>no LGBTQ+ inclusiveness
>no pride parades
>no pronouns
>no body type 1 body type 2
>no mandatory sex scenes
All based.
Still, it's a Reddit game.
>no body type 1 body type 2
there's exactly that shit on the first screen in the game and chock full of feminist hogwash where most of the powerful characters in charge of things are women
why do people push this bulllshit about elden ring not being progressive, it ticks every progressive box except having gays everywhere
>entire game made out of copy pasted DS3 assets
lmao
>manages to btfo ds3 completely despite all of the reuse
Based
I have not ever liked the online in any souls like game besides bloodborne because there's no invasions.
Snoys I wish i was kidding,
Why does anyone actually care about reviews?
https://www.metacritic.com/game/elden-ring/user-reviews/?platform=playstation-5&filter=Negative%20Reviews
These are bots or morons.
>These FROMSOFTWARE games have struck a chord with a particular type of gamer - and I daresay, not a classic gamer that have explored various genres. There's a writer named Dan Brown, whose fiction novels garnered A LOT of critical acclaim; but amongst those of us who enjoy a good sleuth, and have much experience with various crafts-people of the trade, we knew a charlatan when we saw him. See, Dan Brown relied a on a 'rinse-and-repeat' style of writing - a 'writing-by-numbers', if you will. In essence, each story contained the same characters, plot devices, story arcs and climaxes. It was cheap - and, might I add, intellectually insulting. But despite the objective criticism of connoisseurs, the media machine was fully behind Dan Brown, and the Asch Phenomenon claimed another victory. So, too, to FROMSOFTWARE's rinse-and-repeat genre. I refunded all of my FS purchases safely within the allotted window before I was stuck with an intellectual insult. "Souls-like" should NOT be 'a thing'; more appropriately for the RPG-genre, "Fable-like", or "Witcher 3-like" - but this farcical, reskinned money-grab does not deserve a category unto itself. The power of marketing (and mass persuasion) indeed....
>Open world is giant, empty, boring, and only exists to pad out game time
>Torrent dies at the drop of a hat in later areas with no way to upgrade him
>Crafting is useless and feels tacked on
>Poise is nonexistent because it was broken in DS1 and From decided they're just never going to try and fix it
>Reused enemies/bosses everywhere because of the open world
>Most weapons are samey and might as well be filler (this is a problem with most souls games though)
>Melina is treated as an important character you're supposed to care about yet only shows up a handful of times, most of which are optional and easily missable
>Side character quest progression is the same as in older games except now in the already mentioned giant open world
>From still hasn't figured out how to make locking on to giant enemies bearable
>Last boss of the game starts really cool and decently challenging with Radagon and then drops off a cliff with Elden Beast being a horribly easy slog where 80% of the fight is just running after it
>Not enough porn of Ranni using all four arms on your tarnished tackle
Still pretty good game. I enjoyed the 200 hours I put into it but probably won't play it again
From get away with oudated game design. Here is shit From didn't fix over last fricking 13 years and 7 games in Elden Ring:
>no covenants
>no factions
>zero consequences for any action you do
>back to rolling instead of BB sidestep
>back to "snap behind enemy" backstab instead of charged backstab from BB
>stealth and stealth kills are janky and never worth doing as opposed to Sekiro, where it at least always kills the enemy and is faster/snappier
>posture system is fricked and nonsensical with arbitrary rules, no stance bar on enemies unlike Sekiro, because you'd constantly see how much the game cheats and just resets the bar or ignores your damage for bosses
>you have complex level design like Stormveil and Leyndell but it's pointless because there are graces everywhere, including between shortcuts, which defeats the point as you can teleport anywhere, at any time, don't even need to rest at grace to do it
>enemies still can be leashed and will stop chasing you too quickly
>you can still just run past encounters
>Level Up Girl finally doesn't have shitton of dialogue before the level up screen but instead speaks in the background, but this time she is absent from 99% of the game
>archery is still done with the most basic implementation, that is also either not worth doing or worth doing only with some broken exploit
>levels are the same shitty gauntlets over and over, never again they had a level like Blighttown or Depths or Sen's Fortress that have unique theme or change the pace
>ripostes still break on slopes
>pressing lock-on resets camera in front and you cannot turn it off, i never used that function in my 1000 hours in these games
>input buffering is still fricked, not an issue in slower game like DeS and DaS, completely unacceptable in a game the speed of Elden Ring
>story is still nonsensical clusterfrick because cut content and rewrites, even though DeS and DaS had simple, good stories
>NPCs are immortal and now there are no-fight zones for casuls
And more.
buffering is still fricked, not an issue in slower game like DeS and DaS, completely unacceptable in a game the speed of Elden Ring
This is my personal pet peeve, why the frick does it even exist at all? Why not just ignore the input completely if it cannot be done due to being stuck in the middle of another action? Would have been easier to code too. It's like they intentionally made it bad on purpose.
Archery was good in Dark Souls 2 with ring of blades +2 and Flynn's Ring because of the flat 100 AR increase.
You sound too much like Matthewmatosis here
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>you sound too much like a guy whose criticism was on point
Thank you?
No it's more like I suspect you're Matthewmatosis himself
Spare a dollar for my patreon then.
Elden Ring really felt unfinished. The world was too empty, story was again a messy clusterfrick for no reason whatsoever when it didn't need to be, because there are more political and family themes and relationship dramas, so having the characters actually express themselves would be a neat change and would make me more invested in all of this shit.
It also did not improve on the mechanics and didn't innovate enough. Seriously, i have never seen this expressed, but am i the only one who is fricking fed up with their games having the fricking '99' jRPG stat limit? It's so fricking stupid, even From themselves know it, so they introduce moronic "soft caps" and hard caps for stat gain because their own system is so moronic, instead of redesigning it.
Best part is that if they just scaled that shit down or redid the system to be more about horizontal progression instead of vertical, it would balance the game better and maybe one of the biggest issues of the game would be avoided (where you are either under or overpowered depending on area).
lazy copy pasting gets boring and conzoomers wised up
It was made for a 10 year old console.
nobody likes fromslop, it was just a fad
>indie studio from japan makes the best game of our generation and wins every award in the world
>a bunch of ESL incels spend more than a year seething about it for no clear reason
If this is the best use of an intern they can think of, AAA studios are even more fricked than what I thought
From hasn't even released a single game that was rated as the best in the year it came out.
Rated by who? ER and Sekiro both won GOTY and BB should have won too
>but the corporate game journalists said...
lol
So rated by you and you're a troony from discord who could make it to Leyndell, got it. I accept your copecession
Metacritic user score or Steam
Either one, take your pick. You wont even find a Fromsoft game in the top 10 for any year.
Trying to claim game journo scores at all proves unequivocally that you are completely dishonest and disingenuous given that it's common knowledge journos are troony homosexuals that are paid for reviews..
>plebs getting filtered by a game slightly more difficult than zelda (game for children) means they're not GOTY
Surely you're taking the piss here, you can't be THIS moronic
>it got lower users scores than journo scores because gamers are not as skilled as game journalists and all got filtered
One of these days there will be a fromhomosexual that is not completely dishonest, but it's not today.
>all got filtered
You're talking about a 20% negative reviews so "all" is dishonest, coincidentally only 73% of the people who bought the game from steam have the margitt achievement so yes. That's 27% of people paying $60 and not beating the first boss, that's your negative reviews right there. I wouldn't talk about dishonesty while lying in the same post buddy
>it got lower users scores than journo scores because gamers are not as skilled as game journalists and all got filtered
One of these days there will be a fromhomosexual that is not completely dishonest, but it's not today.
>mind broken
I accept your concession, Elden Ring is a confirmed masterpiece
>Elden Ring is a confirmed masterpiece
>Source: Transexual Game Journalists
lol
That's funny because everyone other than them seem to think it's just "ok"
>industry awards le bad
>imaginary consensus based on my HRT induced schizophrenia le good
Based frombroken troony, just use summons dude Margitt is not that hard
>aggregate user reviews are "imaginary "consensus
This is what happens when your entire identity is tied to worshipping a consumer product. You just humiliate yourself over and over saying increasingly desperate and nonsensical things defending it.
>sites where reviewbombing is notriously easy are indicative of anything
>you can't trust Steam because Reviewbombing the only valid review is game journalists
This is what happens when your entire identity is tied to worshipping a consumer product. You just humiliate yourself over and over saying increasingly desperate and nonsensical things defending it.
You couldn't even come up with a counter argument
Your argument is that literally Game Journalists are skilled and trustworthy, and are a better indication of quality than user reviews.
I'm not going to attack it with a counterargument because just repeating your argument humiliates you enough in the eyes of anyone with a functioning cerebrum.
>I'm not going to attack it with a counterargument
Cool, I accept your concession then. I noticed you ignored how the percentage of negative reviews is actually lower than the people who couldn't beat the first boss in the game too, two BTFOs in one thread new low for you huh
So you have nothing. You gave up already.
>Game Journalists are skilled and trustworthy, and are a better indication of quality than user reviews
Ok buddy
>couldn't beat
Reddit meme detected. Rest of post ignored.
>Rest of post ignored.
Sure I accept your concession AGAIN, as many times as you need
absolutely mindbroken troony lmao
now this is some i robot tier feedback loop shit
>still can't refute the argument
Why are you doing this to yourself? Is it some kind of weird humilliation fetish or something?
Your argument is that game journalists are trustworthy. Lol.
I would posit that both reviews from critics and reviews from users are unreliable metrics with which to judge a game. Caring about reviews scores at all is a path to nowhere. The only time it's useful is when something is so obviously bad that there are no positive reviews at all. Any qualms about a 1-3 difference in score are literally meaningless.
>I would posit that both reviews from critics and reviews from users are unreliable metrics
And you would only do so because you are mentally ill and worship a product and cannot cope with it being less than perfect and thus are looking for any possible out as to why it received less than perfect scores. Users scores are an absolutely acceptable metric of quality, and correlate to quality very strongly except in extreme edge cases (indie games with 5 reviews or something).
I'm saying that no one should care about review scores unless they indicate that something is wrong with the game that makes it unusable. I have no idea about the person that you're arguing with in your head thinks but it has nothing to do with what I said. User reviews are not quantifiable judgements of quality because user reviews can be manipulated or skewed by personal motivation. Any percentage difference outside of the bottom of 30% means literally nothing when it comes to any review.
>User reviews are not quantifiable judgements of quality
That's literally exactly what they are.
>because user reviews can be manipulated or skewed by personal motivation.
Yes? Which is why you look at the aggregate given a large enough sample size.
>27% of the people who paid $60 for the game couldn't beat the first boss
>less than 20% negative reviews
So it's a masterpiece, glad we finally agree.
>couldn't
Yes clearly no one would stop playing a game they thought was bad, it was all people who tried 500 times and couldnt do it.
>dropping a game before beating the first boss
Yeah, they couldn't and then they dropped a negative review or became obsessed trannies like (you). Sad story anyways
Yes, every single person that didn't uncritically worship Elden Ring only did so because they couldn't beat a boss. Great logic, really raising the bar for discussion and providing a positive impression of the Fromsoft fanbase.
Nah only the 27% of steam players that unironically, unarguably couldn't beat the first boss. Since the game has less than 27% negative reviews, the actual consensus by the people who actually played it beyond Margitt is that it is a masterpiece. I really can't explain it in simpler terms, please apply yourself
3/10 bait, some effort but way too obvious
>can't refute the point
>"y-you're trolling"
LOL
There is no point. Boss completion has nothing to do with anything.
>Boss completion
Not finishing the first boss is a special kind of lacking "boss completion" isn't it my dishonest discord troony friend? That's people like you who got completely filtered after paying money and dropped a negative review after that. Discounting that 27%, the game is rated as one of the best in history, rightly so
>le filtered
Low IQ reddit meme detected, rest of post ignored. Concession accepted.
>no argument
>mind broken
See
Sekiro won as a pity award for BB. Sekiro wasn't good.
>Sekiro won as a pity award for BB
Will Bloodborne fans EVER stop seething?
I like bloodborne and even I can admit that Witcher 3 deserved it more over the L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 game
The fight in 2019 was Death Stranding vs Sekiro and Sekiro is clearly more fun.
>Sekiro won as a pity award for BB
this is true
>Sekiro wasn't good
this is not entirely true
>do a new ER playthrough
>starts taking hundreds of screencaps
help
this game looks too good
It aged poorly, people turned on it. Simple as.
PCPoor stutter
Discordisraelites reviewbombing
It's just another generic fromslop but this time with a big empty open sandbox world fuill of recycled content
The formula has gotten stale and most of the updates were misses
Poor man's Devil May Cry, simple as.
>dodge
>hit
>dodge
>hit
>dodge
>hit
It gets old pretty quick if you aren't 12 and Dark Souls isn't the only game you have on your xbox
Was actually thinking of installing it tomorrow. Are spear builds fun?
Yea you even have the choice between greatspears and regular spears. Both are fun and viable and there's a lot of cool unique spears around.
Uniquely they can attack while blocking too so they go pretty well with shields
Cringe game only enjoyed by normalhomosexual zoomers.
>game is good
>Ganker seethes impotently
It's nearly been 2 years, dilate and go the frick back to discord
People who ritualistically pirate games only to complain about them after they don't play them aren't exactly people you can trust to not hold insane grudges even decades later
There is such an insane amount of samegayging in this thread. 192 posts and 61 IPs. Every discord troon thread shitting on ER is like this. Why don't the mods do their jobs?
If you weren't schizophrenic you could reason that the average post count of each anon is 3 because most of the thread consists of discussion.
What a pathetic excuse.
Do you do this in every thread without a 1 to 1 ratio of IPs to posts?
>1 to 1 ratio
every single anti ER thread is samegayged. this has been going on for nearly two years. i'm pretty sure mods used to delete obvious schizo threads like this once upon a time, i guess they've completely given up
Say what you want about discord trannies, they're insistent. 2 years getting BTFO by every fromchad and they're still going
I respect their grind. It's good that they are this passionate about something, it means they won't have time to obsess over porn.
90% of the threads who are anti Japan games, shilling X game for weeks or months( baldur troony gate), gacha etc have around 100 unique IP's, even if the replies numbers are over 500
I guess bots/shills don't know how to change the IP
tribalism and consumerism, sonyBlacks are still a cancer on this board, not as bad as 4-5 years ago, they were spamming endless yellow face back then, but now you have more cancer like them, gacha gays, twitter/discord spammers, more shills than ever, more anti american/japanese games threads, etc.
It was one of the biggest flops in vidya history. I still remember the weeks following the release, the catalogue was nothing but threads showcasing how pathetic the game was.
I can't even tell if you're being ironic, that's how deranged shazamtroons have become over the past year
He probably wasn't even there. He probably hasn't even played it.
Nah I remember the catalogue being full of people getting filtered by fricking Margit lol
ER haters are very dishonest
Elden Ring discussion is absolutely fricked
It is my personal very close to 10/10 and goty of the probably decade, but whenever I sum up the game and mention anything I perceived as flawed and could've been better it's instantly
>YOU JUST SUCK, YOU JUST DIDN'T BEAT IT THATS WHY YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT
>SKILL ISSUE
meanwhile whenever I praise the game for anything it's
>LMAO FROM SHILL WHY ARE YOU STILL SHILLING THE GAME 2 YEARS AFTER RELEASE???
>FROM DRONES ARE SO DELUSIONAL
it's just tiresome to discuss this game. You can discuss almost any other game but this game is just endless seethe and you can't share any opinion on it or you instantly get involved in some homosexual flame war between people who probably didn't even play the game
I finally played it last week and it wasn't that great. But to be fair I haven't played a good game in over a decade.
>what went wrong
as usual, Snoys.
Why are they like this?
kekaroo
Don't know, what went right? It's just generic zoomer twitchbait slop with simplistic 1-button combat tailor made for the casual gamer.
>pedoweeb
opinion discarded
she's not wrong though
Wait a second, Elden Ring has 92% very positive reviews on steam with over 530k ratings, that's one of the best ratings of all time, what's this troony rambling about elden ring getting trashed on user reviews?
>that's one of the best ratings of all time
Why are you lying? It's not even in the top 100 of 2022.
Not with over half a million reviews, it isn't. Looks like ER is GOTY for users too, the end of shazamtrannery as we know it I'm afraid
It's a mile wide puddle deep with poor levels outside of the first castle. It's always like this with fromsoft the level design just stops existing after the first 2 areas. Having 100 spells means nothing if they all do essentially the same thing. Boss design was more obnoxious than anything and the bosses repeat. Story may as well not exist I don't know why morons think there's lore in these games.