>Gary Whitta is a Gen X-er >Justin Roiland is a Gen X-er >Joss Whedon, who popularized the entire “make everyone quip 24/7” writing style to begin with, is a Gen X-er >IT’S ALL THE MILLENNIALS FAULT
millennials always consider the stuff they grew up on as "theirs" like they own it, even though it was always made by guys a decade or two older than they were
see: nirvana, pavement, 80s/90s blockbusters
the only real millennial ""art"" is goyslop by A24 like the lighthouse and uncut gems and vaporwave and kero kero bonito and all that gay twee indie soft hands limp wrist shit
most great art made in any era is always made by middle aged people
>isnt popular with kids >references comic book arc from 1988, dungeons and dragons, star wars/trek >fanbase is deeply linked to con culture, little to no internet penetration >cant sustain itself with wide appeal cheap toys, but can easily push thousand dollar paraphernalia
the people writing quirky humour are nothing but miserable, trying to cover it up with self-deprecation
the irony, ironically is that there is no irony anymore, thats just literally their default state and all they know how to write about. Anyone having a genuine fear, motivation or strength played straight is completely alien to them and needs to be expressed via joke
Quirky jokes are fine, there's just got to actually be a fricking joke.
If you can't identify a punchline, scrap the line and rewrite it.
If it's not meant to be a joke, don't inflect it like one.
If everyone else is making the joke, try writing a new one, or at least one that's not overused.
If you've already repeatedly made the same joke, pick something else to joke about.
Follow those guidelines and chances are you'll get rid of most of the writing quirks people b***h about.
What sucks is that there amazing millennial talent out there, but they believe in freedom speech and creativity. The left loses their mind at this prospect.
stop apologizing for your generation we are all born into our own view of understanding the world with different pressures be it TV or the algorithm. the young and old should never have this toxic hatred towards each other it breaks up society so we can be manipulated by outside groups more effectively
it will actually get better eventually because when gen alpha takes over, it'll just turn into completely incomprehensible abstract down syndrome tier nonsense, which is a (small) improvement over today's unfunny redditspeak dogshit
>zoomer writing >2035 >kindle uses AI and gif like pages with emojis to "enhanced" story telling
>"Oh shit senpai you talk?" Speechless emoji >"Yeah I'm a talking gun lol" *vine loud sfx* >next pages are AI reaction images with a radio head song >the next pages is a monologue is how the gun gained the ability to talk >full of memes in between each line with references to 2010s media >after the page a wojack pops asking to donate and subscribe >the author interjects a 20 min commentary in between every page explaining what is going on and how its deep and esotirc >the first 5 minutes is shilling his VPN sponsor >the next chapter is AI created porn of the characters >buy the next installment of the series for $39.99 a month
Action games always always had bad writing. I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo. Its story is very poorly told. It just has moody music and action sequences that impress boys and young men enough that they don't think about how bad the writing is.
And before Halo, you would never even expect an action game to have that much dialogue. It was just super simple "here's your mission" kind of dialogue.
You should only expect decent writing from an RPG or Adventure games. And I mean real adventure games. Not action games with obligatory "puzzles" to extend the game's play time.
Honestly this kind of posts were funny back in the 2000s when they were written by balding programmers in their late 20s / early 30s pissing shitty netcode for a living and arguing on internet forums with 13yo kids like their lives depended on it, but nowadays it is pretty pathetic to see people who weren't even born when it released trying to play the "ughhhh halo was shit lamooo" card because it makes them feel like FPS connoisseur muh indie boomer shooters
I was born in '95. The movement in Halo sucks ass, the shield mechanics suck ass, the gunplay sucks ass, the aggressive autoaim and the absurd corrections it does when using melee weapons is just poor game design and the vehicles are clunky. Somehow they managed to make everything worse from Reach onwards.
Halo's story mode sucks ass and Master Chief has the personality of a wet handkerchief.
>just a retelling of the book of Genesis
Never read it. My family was never particularly religious. Thank the light.
All the bible parallels were completely lost on me. The story of noah's arc is famous, so I get the gist of that. Something created to escape a great catastrophe. Within it, the seeds of new life to repopulate the world. But beyond that, what is happening? Why are factions fighting each other? Why do some people change allegiances? Why the betrayals? Why the hallucinations? It's all just kind of murky.
>ahh yes, Halo, the most popular video game in the action genre, completely pioneered the technique of having a story and dialogue >you all remember that, right, fellow millenials?
Why do zoomers LARP so much on this board? Are they that ashamed of their culture and associations or do they honestly think they're some translennial born in the wrong era frfr?
>I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo.
Humans fighting aliens. Aliens win space fight. Cool guy takes AI with booby and lands on ring. Cool guy looks for other humans. Humans look for what aliens look for. Cool guy finds other aliens. Cool guy finds robot that wants to help by activating the ring. AI with booby hacks into ring and goes oh shit cool guy being used by robot, ring will sterilize galaxy to starve other aliens. Cool guy fights robot and other aliens and leaves and an alien hugs a black man while this is happening if you played bullshit mode.
you over simplify. Why was cool guy the last cool guy of his time? Why was cool alien given a special title and sword? What's the significance? Why were a bunch of snoke looking aliens in charge? Why did one of them die?
>oh I know what the ladies like >were it so easy >Now I don't care if it's God's own anti son of a b***h machine or a giant hula hoop, we're not gonna let them have it >wake me, when you need me >I need a weapon >what if you miss? I won’t >tell them to make it count >you know the music, time to dance >sir, finishing this fight >if they came to see me beg, they will be disappointed >I am a monument to all your sins >kill me or release me parasite, but do not waste my time with talk >You are forerunner, but this ring is mine >Please, don’t shake the light bulb >don’t make a girl a promise, if you can’t keep it >your destruction is the will of the gods, and I am their instrument >you were weak, and gods must be strong >you’re on your own, noble team. Carter out >Troopers, we are green, and very, very mean
Those are off the top of my head. Halo is machismo, B-movie pulp, but if you’re a man and you don’t like it, you objectively have low testosterone and a kyphotic spine. Bungie Halo is peak comfy.
No, not "always". Even if it was b-movie tier and "poorly told" in games like Halo or whatever that's still nowhere near the level of cringe as the games with wheadonism/millenial writing. Modern games offer a completely new levels of shitness that was unheard of before the rise of the millenial writing trend.
>I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo.
Here aliens. Aliens bad. Shoot aliens.
But, to be honest, Bungie had a "more backstory = better writing" problem way before Halo, and it is a blessing that Marathon and Halo crowds aren't intersect much. Cause holy shit, some of the Marathon fans posting on /vr/ was obnoxious, even if rare. >well ASHKCHWALLY, my Doom clone was elevated art, here is 300 pages of lore dump from a single terminal on map 3 to prove it
Nope.
This post is correct IDK why everyone is seething.
If you don’t read some kind of supplementary material, Halo 1 through 3 barely make any sense. 1 is simple but 2 and 3 went into “what the frick even happened in that long ass cutscene” mode
> 1 is simple but 2 and 3 went into “what the frick even happened in that long ass cutscene” mode
You are genuinely moronic when my 14 year old self understood the halo trilogy just fine without any supplementary reading
You had no idea who or what an arbiter was or why he existed or why you played as him when Halo 2 came out. You either thought >wow cool I’m the alien guy
or >what the frick I wanna play as Halo
> 1 is simple but 2 and 3 went into “what the frick even happened in that long ass cutscene” mode
You are genuinely moronic when my 14 year old self understood the halo trilogy just fine without any supplementary reading
How can we trick m*llenials and b*omers into one place so we can nuke them?
Millennial millennial millennial. I can't wait for zoomers to start writing. Then we will see just how atrocious you guys are. No life experience, just regurgitating memes. But not even coherent memes. Just bizarre surrealist shit that amounts to "lolsorandum XD"
True. But removing bad is pointless, when the only other option is worse.
Millenial “life experience” is consooming Disney produced pozzhole garbage, collecting plastic funko pop shit, and letting other men sleep with your wife.
The Disney Millennials consumed during their formative years wasn't "pozzed". It was a second golden age, with some of the best creations. The reason Millennials are so devoted to these brands, was that consistently from 1980 to roughly 2010 (30 years), they delivered millennials gold directly into our veins. And then they only started to turn sour when zoomers were born.
Millennials get made fun of for being harry potter fanatics. But zoomers will never know what it's like to have a faithful adaptation that isn't ruined by diversity. You will never know that joy. So you fume and judge. Calling them sour grapes.
I also look at the writers for Forespoken. 1 of them is a millennial. The other 3 are Gen X. https://forspoken.fandom.com/wiki/Forspoken
It was directed by Takeshi Aramaki and Takefumi Terada with Gary Whitta providing world and lore concept, Amy Hennig providing the story concept, Allison Rymer and Todd Stashwick serving as script writers.
Allison Rymer is the Millennial at only 28 years old. All the others are in their 50s. Gen X. And Allison is a late Millenial. Born in 1995. She's only 2 years away from being officially Gen Z
>Allison Rymer is the Millennial at only 28 years old. All the others are in their 50s. Gen X. And Allison is a late Millenial. Born in 1995. She's only 2 years away from being officially Gen Z
Also, Justin Roiland was born in 1980. So only 1 year earlier, and he would have been Gen X. The writer credit for High on Life is Alec Robbin. Who is 33 years old. So he's a real millennial. Still, the bad "writing" we associate with High on Life, is all done by Roiland's improv. Roiland ranting into a microphone, and then they use that materiel in place of a real written script.
So what we're actually seeing here, is something of a gap. The "millennials" involved are either very close to Gen X, or very close to Gen Z.
>The "millennials" involved are either very close to Gen X, or very close to Gen Z.
Crazy how M*llenials were set up to be consoomers and consoomers only
It really is interesting how "invisible" they are in the world of production
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Anonymous
I will give the critics Anthony Burch. That's their 1 guy they can say writes the cliched millennial scripts.
>sucking off Disney because brand name
Disney has never been good, anon. Everything they've ever made is dog shit, and everything they touch turns to dog shit
But it makes the bad things look better by comparison. In a world where people are being conditioned to accept mederocity its a valid strategy. People in their 30s understand like was objectively better in the early 2000s with the economy, price of living, crime rates, ect, and children now are being conditioned to believe houses are just for the rich and crime is simply normal.
Millenial “life experience” is consooming Disney produced pozzhole garbage, collecting plastic funko pop shit, and letting other men sleep with your wife.
Yeah that's about what I'd expect the average 4slop regurgitator to muster up when challenged. Btw ALL the boomer wealth is going to the millennials, the zoomers will be poor until they die lmao
I'm not a zoomer. The millennial generation normie is one of the biggest homosexual consoomers you'll ever meet. Mindless and stuck in a permanent stage of arrested development.
I am writing for my game slowly but surely, I’ve been having in depth conversations in my head for years with my characters and often try to think of things from their perspective in the shower and stuff. Over the last six years I’ve managed to flesh them out very nicely in my mind and have gotten ideas for several sequels and spin offs. Only problem is the game I’m working in now is the size of a AAA title from 10-15 years ago and I’m just one guy.
>"Know that when your finger is on the trigger my tongue will be within reach to lick your nails… and my gaze will always meet the eyes of those you slay even if yours do not. …knowing this do you still wish to persist?"
There are right and wrong ways of doing "talking gun". You just have to do it right.
NTA but are Gingiva and WTCR (finally came out huh) any better in the gameplay department? I could never figure out where to go clearly in the open world and didn't love the combat/grinding. I usually like psychological/horror RPGM games more.
Gingiva is about the same.
WTCR is some kind of wonky pseudo-ARPG abomination jankfest that is even worse gameplay wise. The visuals, story, music, and all that jazz are still interesting but yeah don't expect any major improvements on that front.
Ernest Hemingway was a great writer because he went to war, and lived a life full of experiences. These modern writers have very clearly never left their basement or experienced any kind of real adversity, so their imaginations are bland, their characters flat, and their dialogue awkward and pathetic, like the writers.
Many of the best writers ever lived very sheltered and basic lives.
Dostoevsky didn't do anything interesting as a person, other than write. Poe didn't do much interesting as a person until he fell into disrepair after becoming an author. Lovecraft left his hometown (and bedroom) basically once and hated every minute of it.
The adventurer-writer was a rarity even in the past.
All of those writers took in previously existing literary culture and built their own work on the foundation of it.
What kind of foundation would modern video game writers have? Bing bang wahoo? Capeshit? Harry Potter?
>Dostoevsky didn't do anything interesting as a person, other than write
Say what? Just going off memory he was involved with politics (the wrong kind according to the government) for which he got arrested and sentenced to death by firing squad. At the very last second new orders arrived and he instead got sent to a labour camp in Siberia where he spent 5 years doing hard labour. That is not living a "sheltered life".
Proust straight up slept all day, woke up only to write and smoke in bed and then get one meal ag the same restaurant even day until he died.
Wrote one 4k page book.
Greatest writer of all time.
Being sheltered in the past is way different than being sheltered today. With modern conveniences, you really don't have to leave your home if you don't want to. But before modern conveniences, you had to leave to do anything. You want to look something up? Got to go to the library. You want to mail something? Got to go to the post office. You want to get in touch with a publisher, you have to locate their office and travel there.
Every aspect of life, forced you to contact another human being in order to get ahead. And forces you to get out of the house.
Nowadays, you can get everything you want delivered to you. Business is conducted online from the comfort of your home. Entertainment is fed to you through screens.
He's right. Sex is fine, but it's really only a little bit better than just beating off real quick and moving on with your day. I'd rather be working on something.
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing?
Written by people who don't read, and whose entire experience with writing consists of video games and maybe some movies which isn't much better.
If they have never seen good writing in their entire lives, how would they be able to produce one?
>whose entire experience with writing consists of video games and maybe some movies
The bulk of their writing experience comes from twitter. Insincere snark is the language of social media.
Drenching your stories in irony and sarcasm helps cover your ass in case you accidentally offend someone. "No no no, I was just heckin joking! I didn't actually MEAN anything."
Not going to justify that crap but seeing the current state of the world were literally doing the Peace sign will destroy your life, using Irony to cover your ass seems to be a good defense mechanism.
>oh geez oh wow I hopin' heck I don't offend anyone
Written by the people who making pissing on Jesus jokes. It would mean more if they actually were genuine but in reality the hand wringers of modern writing make insanely offensive jokes when it's at the expense of "the other side". Also true comedians don't give a crap if they offend someone or not, sometimes the lesson is "don't be so uptight, grandma".
high on life wasn't nearly as obnoxious as i feared it would be and the game was actually kinda fun. it felt like one of those experimental b tier games you'd see on shelves during the PS2 era.
i really liked how the tooltip was delivered through an in universe forum complete with trolls and morons posting nonsense
>High on life is at least being cringe on purpose.
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. Plus, i have a feeling that it didn't need to be cringe on purpose because it would have ended cringey even if it didn't.
My problem with this kind of humor is that there is no joke there except reference to something cringey that is funny to remember. That becomes stale, especially when everyone and their grandma does that. Like Robot Chicken once the novelty of stop motion adult swim show worn out: yeah, He-Man was cheesy and 1960s Aquaman was useless, but where is the joke?
You know what you're getting with Rick and Morty and their games always has at least one pretty funny thing. I don't, however, want an action game written for people who are so stoned they don't know what day it is so the game has to remind them every 30 seconds. >"Wow, a talking gun, wow that's not normal, guns don't normally talk!"
That's not what any person would say if their Glock started talking to them. Most people would start with asking "how" and "why" not just saying "Wow that's not normal and wow that just happened!". Like, let's skip the part addressing the people asleep in the back of the audience. We don't need to tell the 4 year olds that it isn't normal for guns to talk. Even if a wacky adventure world if it's not normal it's going to be demonstrated without knocking you on the head with it and gasp, it might be more mentally engaging this way.
>But seriously, it's because they think the average person is baked out of their mind
No, they think the average person who would buy a game about talking guns featuring the voices of Rick and Morty is baked out of their mind. I would hazard to guess that they are correct.
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing?
To quote Stephen King "to be a great writer you need to become a great reader"
These writer spend their days arguing on social media about garbage shows made by other hacks, and picking up whatever lingo sounds cool atm.
the "millenial writing" is actually gen x writing for zoomers but what it actually is is homosexuals online who have to ree at other generations because they lack the introspection to understand things past "group to blame for everything".
"the new generation is lazy and doesn't like to work" is something that has been said ever since the concept of generation was invented
Factually incorrect. Millenials actually took on fewer jobs than Zoomers are. Teen employment rate was at its all-time lowest in 2008 and has been rising since, with a tiny dip during covid shutdowns.
I can go the fricking Wendy's and see it's short staffed and I can also tell you that the places that do have staff are absolutely atrociously managed. So no, frick off, I can tell you from personal experience things have gone hill fast in the last 10 years. You're not going to rewrite the history of Eurasia you piece of shit, I know how it once was.
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Anonymous
They're 'short staffed' because a business like Wendy's relies on minimizing labor costs as much as is possible to make money.
It will always be short-staffed because why pay 5 people to work a moderate amount if 4 working hard is JustAsGood.
8 months ago
Anonymous
No frick off, given Zoomers aspirations are to be TikTok influencers and Twitch streamers, it's very obvious the direction society is going and it's going to massive gaps in all the jobs that matter. I don't get this Zoomer insistency of dodging this bullshit, your generate is worse than Millennials when it comes to special snowflake bullshit. Always quick to throw stones but the second stones get thrown back you fricking cry like a baby. Society is absolutely doomed and we can only pray Generation Alpha sees the absolutely lost Zoomer generation of couch surfing uncles and homeless single wine aunts scares them from being so fricking lazy.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Just get some common sense about how businesses are run.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Stop defending Zoomers like your life depends on it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
looks like you wont get to retire surfing off the labor of younger generations like your parents did, baldy. Sorry i dont have much sympathy. Enjoy wage cucking into your fast approaching 50s and early grave. I will fortnite dance at your wake
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, and this is why everyone hates modern jobs. It's not just in fast-food that it's like this, it's like this everywhere now. All companies constantly look for ways to "trim the fat" and all it results in, are too few workers that are forced to work like animals because management would rather have them work double-time all the time, rather than just doing the right fricking thing and hiring that one extra guy to take the load off.
Problem is, democracy don't work. Everyone knows no one wants immigrants, and yet, the politicians betray their own people all the time and constantly take in immigrants. And the western politicians have done this constantly since the end of the second ww. Every time there's an honest poll, people overwhelmingly decide against importing more stupid third-worlders and they're over-ruled by their own traitorous politicians every single time.
A shortage of food workers doesn't mean people are working less, fricktard. Have you considered there might be more jobs these days than in the past?
Uber driving and other gig shit is everywhere now. Amazon, UPS, and FedEx have more employees than ever because everything is delivered these days. People are getting paid to be full-time moderators for Facebook. The federal government just dumped a frickload of money into construction grants, so there's way more construction jobs available. This is also leading to an influx of tradesmen like electricians and plumbers. Why the hell would anyone work fast food when all that shit exists and pays more? Get your head out of your ass.
Most cities don't' have a fricking shipping facility in them you moron. You think all the Zoomers are taking the bus 20 miles to the Amazon Hub? Actually moronic take.
8 months ago
Anonymous
No, but the adults do. And you know who no longer is working fast food? Adults. The pew research source above literally shows that significantly more kids are working than there were ten years ago.
If you have such a good memory, think back. Have you ever seen an adult working in fast food? In retail? Yes? Okay, there you have it. Fast food and retail employee shortages are therefore impacted by adult employment opportunities. In fact, it's BECAUSE more adults are not working these jobs that kids are working more now.
When the economy is in the shitter, like it was in 2008, adults settle for fast food or retail jobs. They aren't right now because there's tons of better jobs available. So the only people working retail or fast food are kids and morons, and there aren't enough to fill them.
~~*They*~~ have been claiming there's a job-shortage since the early 20th century. It's just the usual israelite game where they try to get as large a portion of the pie for themselves as humanly possibly. You wanna know why the rich are currently richer than ever before? This is why. We all need to become better at saying no. no more. Fricking pay us, or else. Since we clearly have been extremely bad at that, THEY are now richer than ever, while the random average poorgay is clinging on for dear life.
the "new generation" is literally braindead however. You can argue about different things being funny or interesting from generation to generation but 80% under 20 are legit fricking morons and this isnt even hyperbole
modern vidya writers have no interesting experiences to draw inspiration from or even good ideas to begin with so they default to being the most insufferably unfunny morons on the planet to make other insufferably unfunny morons like them
also mediocrity is praised instead of exceptionalism. truly a plague on video games and entertainment media as a whole
>MUH LIFE EXPERIENCES
You literally sound like a stupid instagram prostitute trying to sell a shady tourist trap scheme that encourages their simps to book holidays to overpriced exotic resorts.
The problem is NOT life experiences, it is the resources you've built your inner world with.
Most tales are derived from older, timeless tales that speak to everybody. The fricking greeks solved the structure of a story since antiquity.
The problem with most modern writers is that instead of growing up reading / being read traditional folk tales, they've been raised on the plastic / sanitized disney versions, cartoon networks and harry potter.
They have no grip into the real world. They do not build their tales around timless, universal idea that have crossed the ages among pretty much every civilization to have ever existed, they're building their stories from scraps blindly obeying arbitrary rules made up by hacks to pander to particular fanbases and/or ideologically motivated consoomers.
You don't need lived experiences. The big brain shit is to draw from history and real accounts. Truth is stranger than fiction and technically you're still using lived experience even if those experiences don't belong to you.
Western studios started making games and people bought them for some reason. Meanwhile japanese games are mostly in just as good of a place as they were 20 years ago.
No, the problem is insane game budgets so they have to make every game as accessible as possible instead of having modest budget games. Everything either has to be a hundred million dollar grand slam or fail.
when i was younger you never saw this hostile generational fighting just the usual old people thinking young people were lazy and stupid and young people thinking old people didnt understand them. there seems to be a way more toxic generational hatred then before. (this is also happening on a sex and race basis)
What i also hate is how teenagers and young adults get everything filterd through an algoritmh now so everyone talks and types the same about X subject (like this thread which every kid has seen the youtube video crying about millenials so thats going to be what they believe now.
Everything is done to break in-group solidarity so that people are isolated and have to rely on governmental authorities and/or big corporations for guidance
There was always hostile generational fighting you dumb frogposting turdburglar. Even when boomers were young, the elders of their time were seething and throwing fits over the youth smoking plants and partying while having sex without getting married first. Those boomers, young at the time, fought to stick it to the man. Of course, then they became the man and decided everyone younger than them shouldn't have the same freedoms and opportunities.
LOL hey anon has feminism made men and women like each other more or less? and has it helped the sexual relationships and innate struggles we have with the opposite sex or not?
>discussion about generational divide >WHATABOUTFEMINISM DOE?!?????
8 months ago
Anonymous
the dumbwit is stunned that this happens not just on generational lines
8 months ago
Anonymous
The Sexual Revolution happened under Boomers. If people didn’t become more conservative as they age we would be living in even worse conditions than the sexual stuff they’re pushing on children now all of a sudden.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>if people didn't become moronic as they age then le bad thing would happen!!!!
One of the worst parts of modernity is how soillenials and broccoliheads, at least the ones that fall for e-daddy grifters like neoscam hyde, andrew tate, and post-2016 4chinz, are all speedrunning becoming pearl clutching boomer prostitutes trying to revive 1600s Salem.
Lmao Zoomers are social media addicted cowards. They aren't smarter, they're tech illiterate, they don't want to program, or do art, or anything outside of being an eceleb. So get off your high horse, your generation is doomed. And maybe you should take a look at your life and wonder if you're any different from your zoomer comrades.
Smugness
Snarkiness
Sarcasm
Self-satisfaction
Dishonesty
Quips
Quirkiness
Pop culture references
Social media references
American political messaging
Quota check marks
Fetishization
Casual Hollywoodesque sexification
Flanderization
Self insertion
Aimless cynicism
Shock value edginess/ugliness
dont be disingenuous. I already explained that these things happend, they just are being zoomed in on more and the fire is being fanned harder than ever
>like nobody ever hated other sex before, shaking myy head.
yeah women arent men and men arent women so there is always going to be some misunderstanding. feminism has been a tool to look at these frustrations we have and amplify them till men and women dont want to be around each other anymore.
>Sure. Plenty of stuff I don't know. However, I do know, that people irrationaly on the opposite sex have always existed. Women hating men is nothing new, same as men beating the shit out of every woman they see isn't anything new.
LOL hey anon has feminism made men and women like each other more or less? and has it helped the sexual relationships and innate struggles we have with the opposite sex or not?
Men are their own worst enemies because you all show your asses on social media every day saying how much you hate women. And most of you are low value losers with no jobs or hobbies or drive in life, why the frick would any woman look at you twice? The majority of you would've been killed at war a few hundred years ago but now bottom tier men think they're entitled to spread their seed and create even more short balding ugly offspring. Feminism just gave women the opportunities to have their own jobs and afford their own homes without needing to settle for some useless scrote who'd beat her and the kids. If you can't cope with the fact that women are looking for more in men now than simply having a penis then you should just do society a favor and have a nice day.
And if women cant cope with the fact that most men dont want used up old prostitutes for a wife then they too could do society a favour and kill themselves, no?
You are just as bad as incel homosexuals because you generalize thinking every man goes on social media and hates women. I'm so glad I found a traditional girl early in life instead of a whiny femcel like you.
>So you're sane
Well yeah. So I wouldn't call myself "racist" or say that "racism is good". In fact I am one of the least racist factions because I want to preserve the variety of ethnicities and cultures, instead of mushing them into one blob of cosmopolitan grayness, located somewhere in the west.
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing
Literally millennials, but they will cope, seeth and deny all responsibility. Millennials are almost as destructive as boomers are, except they have no money to show for it.
I think I know why this kind of humour has been prevalent for like 15 years now.
Since every kid grows up watching cable and shitposting on the internet, everyone now grows up a critic.
This thread is a perfect example of what's the norm.
If everyone's a critic, everyone's "literate" about tropes and the basic structure of humour. The most direct and easy way to express one's "in" on this sort of knowledge is through ironic humour. The examples in the OP are facile and to the point.
Doubly, since everyone's a critic, insecure writers space themselves from their own work fearing that they too may be the butt-end of someone else's better joke.
Zoomers have been living under the shadow of Millennials their whole lives. So they just adopted all of Millennial interests, only they twist it to be more absurdist.
my own pet theory is that vidya writers and really current writers in general believe that they already know everything, which is much more anthemic to writing anything good than merely not having sowed your wild oats.
The only "writing" most people interact with in their daily lives are reddit or twitter posts, and they have no understanding of good narrative conventions. You'd think they would because of how consumptive people are with media today, but nothing ever gets a chance to linger or be ingested fully because people are burning their brains out binging hundreds of episodes of shows per week. They're fricked. Completely moronic by their life.
every single basic narrative device is met with ridicule by people who watch too much of anything and nothing particularly good. nobody is allowed to be a "bad" character because it will be called bad writing. >omg hes so unlikable, why does he keep doing this stuff if he doesnt like it? talk about shitty writing, imagine writing a violent psychopath and expecting anyone to relate to him.
The Alien gun game's writing felt like they set the voice actors down in front of the game's plot points and events and just told them to say whatever they thought their character would say with no other instruction or script.
The problem isn't politics on their own.
It is this facile and insulting, one-sided bull that pretends that it is taking a stand by saying basically nothing you couldn't get off of a Raytheon recruitment ad.
As well, they directly make it the point of the work. "Haha, she is Black and a Woman and Loud and Proud! You INCELS can't handle it, right?". As though childish identitarianism like that is anything admirable.
and to think people are trying to say that Forspoken is only hated because of the black female lead.
The music would still suck, the gameplay would be ass, the writing would still be Borderlands tier, the world would still be empty if you replaced Frey with a guy like this
Forspoken looks fun in a post ironic way. Like Disaster: Day of Crisis. That game was fire. Also Forspoken has a japanese dub and im curious how that is. Gonna pirate it when I clear out me hard drive
>2023 >leftoid homosexuals still use this moronic strawman despite being explained how moronic it is literally hundreds of times
I'm just going to assume that all leftists either have selective hearing or are severely autistic. Probably both
There is no reason to even make the attempt at good writing in the first place, because the majority of people won't be literate enough to understand or appreciate it, and the small minority that can has become so poisoned by social media clout chasing that they will readily insist it's "literally the absolute worst writing ever in the history of video games" solely to flex on others.
Reminder in the High on Life DLC, Mortygun is just completely written out by having a time skip, and them saying that the main character dropped the gun and lost it, but they were lucky enough to find a similar gun who is a girl.
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing?
Everything is trying to be an HBO character drama. I guess it is vidya is now written not by the people that emerged from the industry or legit writers but by the folk that didn't fit even in streaming services' writers room. You know, the type that strikes now (or did it end?).
Their popularity. Billions of players with no regard for what kind shit is being sold to them makes it so you dont really have make anything too impressive to sell your product.
And even if you frick up you can just "fix" things by making people forget your frick up with DLC or by just waiting and releasing a new game.
CEOs and shareholders needed more money so they demand publishers and developers to find any avenue to do so. The obvious way to increase your revenue is to have a bigger customerbase which is why all these companies (not just vidya) are targeting an alternative crowd while hoping that their original crowd will still gobble up their shit.
>blame millennials >when it's corporate boards of boomers tasking gen X with marketing to zoomers
Products are always made for what the group funding it thinks the target market wants and you're realizing you're not the target market anymore.
>dont call gen z millennials >don't call gen x millennials >dont call millennials gen z
when are we going back to just calling people buttholes? we've lost too few IQ points this past 3 years to be able to handle generational fighting.
Because idiots today focus more on being "clever" than being "good". Good writing is a damn hard thing to do, but everyone can emulate Whedon-esque garbage.
The current social media landscape trains people to be fake and dishonest, and never be genuine.
Doing anything artistic or creative then becomes a challenge because that would require some actual vulnerability and actual expression, so instead they just make sealclap political talking points and wrap everything in 10 protective layers of irony.
It's not so much a creative trend as much as it is a view into how most people today are not allowed to express themselves in ways not sanctioned by someone else first.
Add to this that it's become so normal that there is no difference to them between the two anymore and they think they're being genuine by acting (ironically) this way.
A permanent observer makes genuine behavior impossible and only main character syndrome exists.
life experience is a maymay, only weebs who suck off everything that comes outta miyahacki's mouth think that is profound insight
if he were right then rockstars and actors would be writing great literature, but they are not
hell he himself should be able to write good stuff but he sticks to second and third-rate mediums like cartoons and comics
the reality of it all is, most millennials and younger people have generally very poor media literacy. if they unironically consoomed better things like great works of literature and films from guys bresson, bergman, tarkovsky, rivette, vlacil, etc. rather than nolan or cohen brothers slop then they would have reference points to build off of and expand the conversations
but no, we are getting games from a generation of sex starved sperglords who only read light novels, genreslop like sanderson (genre fiction can and has been good in the past) and watch marvelshit and breaking bad.
It was so funny when Xbox trannies got mad when people compared Forspoken's crap writing to High on Life's, especially after they spent weeks using the latter to justify their subscription service.
Are you aware that there wasa writer strike recently, right?
People were fighting for basic human rights and the only thing chuds can do is to cry over fricking video games stories
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing?
Millennials took over game development.
Don't worry.
It's gonna keep getting worse.
This. We're a cancer to the vidya industry. I can only image how much worse it will get once zoomers take over though. Will Gen Alpha save us?
>Gary Whitta is a Gen X-er
>Justin Roiland is a Gen X-er
>Joss Whedon, who popularized the entire “make everyone quip 24/7” writing style to begin with, is a Gen X-er
>IT’S ALL THE MILLENNIALS FAULT
No one actually knows what a millennial is, it's literally used by everyone as "age group I do not like".
Millennials are the people born between '84 and '92 or whatever
Those exceptions to Gen X writing became the rule for all their millennial followers.
>Marvel movies are the exception to this brand of writing, rather than the template
Gen X is completely responsible
Gen Xers are still in their 40s-50s at the apex of their careers
>no true Scotsman
Srsly?
they arent going to look into who the actual writers are. they just saw a funny meme video so thats what they think now
Whedon at least understood you need to balance it with some drama.
Any homosexual on Ganker that complains about millenials is quite literally one themselves. they are just too moronic to realize
millennials always consider the stuff they grew up on as "theirs" like they own it, even though it was always made by guys a decade or two older than they were
see: nirvana, pavement, 80s/90s blockbusters
the only real millennial ""art"" is goyslop by A24 like the lighthouse and uncut gems and vaporwave and kero kero bonito and all that gay twee indie soft hands limp wrist shit
most great art made in any era is always made by middle aged people
Listen here, I don't care if these c**ts call themselves Gen X Y or whatever, I JUST WANT THEM ALL TO DIE AND GO TO HELL.
Those homosexuals are so fricking pozzed they were the beta version of modern millenials. Hope you understand now.
It's gen-x'ers writing, pandering to millenials
>isnt popular with kids
>references comic book arc from 1988, dungeons and dragons, star wars/trek
>fanbase is deeply linked to con culture, little to no internet penetration
>cant sustain itself with wide appeal cheap toys, but can easily push thousand dollar paraphernalia
Whedon is actually on the cutoff line for boomer, 1964.
>Millennials took over game development.
Weird because both the writers responsible for OP are Gen-X homosexuals.
There is nothing wrong with quirky humor. You guys are just miserable
the people writing quirky humour are nothing but miserable, trying to cover it up with self-deprecation
the irony, ironically is that there is no irony anymore, thats just literally their default state and all they know how to write about. Anyone having a genuine fear, motivation or strength played straight is completely alien to them and needs to be expressed via joke
Quirky jokes are fine, there's just got to actually be a fricking joke.
If you can't identify a punchline, scrap the line and rewrite it.
If it's not meant to be a joke, don't inflect it like one.
If everyone else is making the joke, try writing a new one, or at least one that's not overused.
If you've already repeatedly made the same joke, pick something else to joke about.
Follow those guidelines and chances are you'll get rid of most of the writing quirks people b***h about.
Zoomer writing will be unintelligible mess. We will go from dying of cringe to death by confusion.
Tbis
What sucks is that there amazing millennial talent out there, but they believe in freedom speech and creativity. The left loses their mind at this prospect.
I apologize for me generation, surely zoomers can’t make worse games
stop apologizing for your generation we are all born into our own view of understanding the world with different pressures be it TV or the algorithm. the young and old should never have this toxic hatred towards each other it breaks up society so we can be manipulated by outside groups more effectively
Don't be a self-hating cuck, disassociate from your generation and be your own man.
I was gonna say something uplifting but then I noticed you're a frogposter so you probably deserve to feel miserable.
it will actually get better eventually because when gen alpha takes over, it'll just turn into completely incomprehensible abstract down syndrome tier nonsense, which is a (small) improvement over today's unfunny redditspeak dogshit
redditspeak isnt a "modern" thing if you were alive for over 25 years you would understand that its been a thing since the late 00s
i don't see how this contradicts anything i've said but thank you for your comment
>1919
In just taking this as the closest we can get to dubs for truth in this dystopian hellscape.
bump
Alright lil zoom. Show us your masterclass writing.
>Millennials
How to spot an npc 101
>zoomer writing
>2035
>kindle uses AI and gif like pages with emojis to "enhanced" story telling
>"Oh shit senpai you talk?" Speechless emoji
>"Yeah I'm a talking gun lol" *vine loud sfx*
>next pages are AI reaction images with a radio head song
>the next pages is a monologue is how the gun gained the ability to talk
>full of memes in between each line with references to 2010s media
>after the page a wojack pops asking to donate and subscribe
>the author interjects a 20 min commentary in between every page explaining what is going on and how its deep and esotirc
>the first 5 minutes is shilling his VPN sponsor
>the next chapter is AI created porn of the characters
>buy the next installment of the series for $39.99 a month
>It's like uhh, an entire generation, or something
Jesus you people really bought into that 85 IQ bait huh?
I look forward to the day zoomers are the writers
it'll just be a series of emojis while the characters grunt like monkeys
Action games always always had bad writing. I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo. Its story is very poorly told. It just has moody music and action sequences that impress boys and young men enough that they don't think about how bad the writing is.
And before Halo, you would never even expect an action game to have that much dialogue. It was just super simple "here's your mission" kind of dialogue.
You should only expect decent writing from an RPG or Adventure games. And I mean real adventure games. Not action games with obligatory "puzzles" to extend the game's play time.
>I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo
That's the best part, you can skip all the cutscenes and just shoot Elites
Female hands wrote this, there is no way a heterosexual man with normal testosterone levels would get filtered this hard by Halo
Halo sucks. If it wasn't the only Xbox exclusive and had Microsoft marketing money it would've died like the mediocre shooter it is.
Honestly this kind of posts were funny back in the 2000s when they were written by balding programmers in their late 20s / early 30s pissing shitty netcode for a living and arguing on internet forums with 13yo kids like their lives depended on it, but nowadays it is pretty pathetic to see people who weren't even born when it released trying to play the "ughhhh halo was shit lamooo" card because it makes them feel like FPS connoisseur muh indie boomer shooters
NTA but halo does suck.
I was born in '95. The movement in Halo sucks ass, the shield mechanics suck ass, the gunplay sucks ass, the aggressive autoaim and the absurd corrections it does when using melee weapons is just poor game design and the vehicles are clunky. Somehow they managed to make everything worse from Reach onwards.
Halo's story mode sucks ass and Master Chief has the personality of a wet handkerchief.
Halo was never good. Cope.
Only morons and utter casuals thought halo was good
There's no way you're not a female or a troony. Halo (1-3) is literally just a retelling of the book of Genesis through a sci-fi military aesthetic.
>just a retelling of the book of Genesis
Never read it. My family was never particularly religious. Thank the light.
All the bible parallels were completely lost on me. The story of noah's arc is famous, so I get the gist of that. Something created to escape a great catastrophe. Within it, the seeds of new life to repopulate the world. But beyond that, what is happening? Why are factions fighting each other? Why do some people change allegiances? Why the betrayals? Why the hallucinations? It's all just kind of murky.
You are ignorant.
And it's retold poorly. He's not wrong about that.
>It's like this other thing, therefore good
>too stupid to understand halo's dirt-simple story
>I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo.
Black person have you considered you just might be stupid
>ahh yes, Halo, the most popular video game in the action genre, completely pioneered the technique of having a story and dialogue
>you all remember that, right, fellow millenials?
Why do zoomers LARP so much on this board? Are they that ashamed of their culture and associations or do they honestly think they're some translennial born in the wrong era frfr?
>I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo.
Humans fighting aliens. Aliens win space fight. Cool guy takes AI with booby and lands on ring. Cool guy looks for other humans. Humans look for what aliens look for. Cool guy finds other aliens. Cool guy finds robot that wants to help by activating the ring. AI with booby hacks into ring and goes oh shit cool guy being used by robot, ring will sterilize galaxy to starve other aliens. Cool guy fights robot and other aliens and leaves and an alien hugs a black man while this is happening if you played bullshit mode.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Now do Halo 2 and 3
I got work so I'll keep it ultra straightforward.
Cool guy and cool alien get some aliens and humans to work together to stop aliens, other aliens and stop ring again
Then cool guy and cool alien work together to stop aliens, other aliens and stop all the rings one more time.
We really just be stopping rings in this series.
you over simplify. Why was cool guy the last cool guy of his time? Why was cool alien given a special title and sword? What's the significance? Why were a bunch of snoke looking aliens in charge? Why did one of them die?
>that impress boys and young
And?
>I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo. Its story is very poorly told.
Shut the frick up zoom zoom.
Halo is one of the most quotable FPS series ever what the frick is wrong with you.
>Halo is one of the most quotable FPS series ever
Quote three memorable phrases.
Wort
Wort
Wort
>The real Halo was the friends we made along the way
>oh I know what the ladies like
>were it so easy
>Now I don't care if it's God's own anti son of a b***h machine or a giant hula hoop, we're not gonna let them have it
>wake me, when you need me
>I need a weapon
>what if you miss? I won’t
>tell them to make it count
>you know the music, time to dance
>sir, finishing this fight
>if they came to see me beg, they will be disappointed
>I am a monument to all your sins
>kill me or release me parasite, but do not waste my time with talk
>You are forerunner, but this ring is mine
>Please, don’t shake the light bulb
>don’t make a girl a promise, if you can’t keep it
>your destruction is the will of the gods, and I am their instrument
>you were weak, and gods must be strong
>you’re on your own, noble team. Carter out
>Troopers, we are green, and very, very mean
Those are off the top of my head. Halo is machismo, B-movie pulp, but if you’re a man and you don’t like it, you objectively have low testosterone and a kyphotic spine. Bungie Halo is peak comfy.
the hell kinda bait is this?
IS this even bait, or are you genuinely moronic?
having bad writing is one thing but being constantly self-referential and up their ass is another
>hey look a weird thing happened that wouldn't be possible in real life in this hypothetical setting isn't that crazy?
If you can't understand fricking Halo, you don't get an opinion on writing.
No, not "always". Even if it was b-movie tier and "poorly told" in games like Halo or whatever that's still nowhere near the level of cringe as the games with wheadonism/millenial writing. Modern games offer a completely new levels of shitness that was unheard of before the rise of the millenial writing trend.
>I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo
You should try playing it then
>I remember not understanding anything that happened in Halo.
Here aliens. Aliens bad. Shoot aliens.
But, to be honest, Bungie had a "more backstory = better writing" problem way before Halo, and it is a blessing that Marathon and Halo crowds aren't intersect much. Cause holy shit, some of the Marathon fans posting on /vr/ was obnoxious, even if rare.
>well ASHKCHWALLY, my Doom clone was elevated art, here is 300 pages of lore dump from a single terminal on map 3 to prove it
Nope.
halo is a classic damsel in distress story though
This post is correct IDK why everyone is seething.
If you don’t read some kind of supplementary material, Halo 1 through 3 barely make any sense. 1 is simple but 2 and 3 went into “what the frick even happened in that long ass cutscene” mode
>If you don’t read some kind of supplementary material,
You sound like the kind of people 343i makes games for
You had no idea who or what an arbiter was or why he existed or why you played as him when Halo 2 came out. You either thought
>wow cool I’m the alien guy
or
>what the frick I wanna play as Halo
> 1 is simple but 2 and 3 went into “what the frick even happened in that long ass cutscene” mode
You are genuinely moronic when my 14 year old self understood the halo trilogy just fine without any supplementary reading
Halo's story is one of the simplest tales in vidya you are just a moron
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>shitting on godly Joseph Staten
you daft moronic motherfricker
Millennial writing is a plague.
Millennial millennial millennial. I can't wait for zoomers to start writing. Then we will see just how atrocious you guys are. No life experience, just regurgitating memes. But not even coherent memes. Just bizarre surrealist shit that amounts to "lolsorandum XD"
Worse thing doesn't make bad thing good
True. But removing bad is pointless, when the only other option is worse.
The Disney Millennials consumed during their formative years wasn't "pozzed". It was a second golden age, with some of the best creations. The reason Millennials are so devoted to these brands, was that consistently from 1980 to roughly 2010 (30 years), they delivered millennials gold directly into our veins. And then they only started to turn sour when zoomers were born.
Millennials get made fun of for being harry potter fanatics. But zoomers will never know what it's like to have a faithful adaptation that isn't ruined by diversity. You will never know that joy. So you fume and judge. Calling them sour grapes.
I also look at the writers for Forespoken. 1 of them is a millennial. The other 3 are Gen X. https://forspoken.fandom.com/wiki/Forspoken
It was directed by Takeshi Aramaki and Takefumi Terada with Gary Whitta providing world and lore concept, Amy Hennig providing the story concept, Allison Rymer and Todd Stashwick serving as script writers.
Allison Rymer is the Millennial at only 28 years old. All the others are in their 50s. Gen X. And Allison is a late Millenial. Born in 1995. She's only 2 years away from being officially Gen Z
>Allison Rymer is the Millennial at only 28 years old. All the others are in their 50s. Gen X. And Allison is a late Millenial. Born in 1995. She's only 2 years away from being officially Gen Z
Also, Justin Roiland was born in 1980. So only 1 year earlier, and he would have been Gen X. The writer credit for High on Life is Alec Robbin. Who is 33 years old. So he's a real millennial. Still, the bad "writing" we associate with High on Life, is all done by Roiland's improv. Roiland ranting into a microphone, and then they use that materiel in place of a real written script.
So what we're actually seeing here, is something of a gap. The "millennials" involved are either very close to Gen X, or very close to Gen Z.
>The "millennials" involved are either very close to Gen X, or very close to Gen Z.
Crazy how M*llenials were set up to be consoomers and consoomers only
It really is interesting how "invisible" they are in the world of production
I will give the critics Anthony Burch. That's their 1 guy they can say writes the cliched millennial scripts.
>sucking off Disney because brand name
Disney has never been good, anon. Everything they've ever made is dog shit, and everything they touch turns to dog shit
Well that's just an idiotic statement
>they delivered millennials gold directly into our veins
how come millenials cant make something good then? are you guys stupid?
I am, yeah
But it makes the bad things look better by comparison. In a world where people are being conditioned to accept mederocity its a valid strategy. People in their 30s understand like was objectively better in the early 2000s with the economy, price of living, crime rates, ect, and children now are being conditioned to believe houses are just for the rich and crime is simply normal.
"mederocity"
Millenial “life experience” is consooming Disney produced pozzhole garbage, collecting plastic funko pop shit, and letting other men sleep with your wife.
Yeah that's about what I'd expect the average 4slop regurgitator to muster up when challenged. Btw ALL the boomer wealth is going to the millennials, the zoomers will be poor until they die lmao
I'm not a zoomer. The millennial generation normie is one of the biggest homosexual consoomers you'll ever meet. Mindless and stuck in a permanent stage of arrested development.
It’ll just get worse, which will make it even funnier.
t. 24 yo zoomer
That's just millennial writing thoughever.
I am writing for my game slowly but surely, I’ve been having in depth conversations in my head for years with my characters and often try to think of things from their perspective in the shower and stuff. Over the last six years I’ve managed to flesh them out very nicely in my mind and have gotten ideas for several sequels and spin offs. Only problem is the game I’m working in now is the size of a AAA title from 10-15 years ago and I’m just one guy.
Nobody said it would be any better. Whiney homosexual.
lmao just wait until zoomzooms get a grip of those positions. This is just the beginning, you havent seen anything yet
What about the Japanese millennials?
They are all hikkas sleeping with their body pillow (dakimakura) waifu
You fricking Zoomers are illiterate, so don't complain.
Industry people hire their friends for their projects and eventually get to write their own shit.
americans love(d) shit like that
yalls Black folk is crazy man
>"Know that when your finger is on the trigger my tongue will be within reach to lick your nails… and my gaze will always meet the eyes of those you slay even if yours do not. …knowing this do you still wish to persist?"
There are right and wrong ways of doing "talking gun". You just have to do it right.
too bad the dev of this is such a sperglord
Maybe, but I can't help but have a soft spot for his schizo nonsense even if his gameplay's an unbalanced grindfest.
Game name? Seems like good writing based on that quote alone
Middens
there’s also Gingiva and Where They Cremate the Roadkill which all take place in the same universe
NTA but are Gingiva and WTCR (finally came out huh) any better in the gameplay department? I could never figure out where to go clearly in the open world and didn't love the combat/grinding. I usually like psychological/horror RPGM games more.
Gingiva is about the same.
WTCR is some kind of wonky pseudo-ARPG abomination jankfest that is even worse gameplay wise. The visuals, story, music, and all that jazz are still interesting but yeah don't expect any major improvements on that front.
average IQ decline
tiktok and Black personization accepted as social norm nowadays
The i.q isn't actually dropping. When you import millions of low I.q individuals it's gonna drag down the average.
How can we trick m*llenials and b*omers into one place so we can nuke them?
Free real estate
insincerity, which is the inevitable consequence of post-modernism.
Ernest Hemingway was a great writer because he went to war, and lived a life full of experiences. These modern writers have very clearly never left their basement or experienced any kind of real adversity, so their imaginations are bland, their characters flat, and their dialogue awkward and pathetic, like the writers.
Many of the best writers ever lived very sheltered and basic lives.
Dostoevsky didn't do anything interesting as a person, other than write. Poe didn't do much interesting as a person until he fell into disrepair after becoming an author. Lovecraft left his hometown (and bedroom) basically once and hated every minute of it.
The adventurer-writer was a rarity even in the past.
All of those writers took in previously existing literary culture and built their own work on the foundation of it.
What kind of foundation would modern video game writers have? Bing bang wahoo? Capeshit? Harry Potter?
>Dostoevsky didn't do anything interesting as a person, other than write
Say what? Just going off memory he was involved with politics (the wrong kind according to the government) for which he got arrested and sentenced to death by firing squad. At the very last second new orders arrived and he instead got sent to a labour camp in Siberia where he spent 5 years doing hard labour. That is not living a "sheltered life".
He got involved with commie homosexuals and later basically acknowledged that Russian government was in the right for jailing him.
He was the son of a rich doctor and got involved as part of a sense of rebellion.
Proust straight up slept all day, woke up only to write and smoke in bed and then get one meal ag the same restaurant even day until he died.
Wrote one 4k page book.
Greatest writer of all time.
Being sheltered in the past is way different than being sheltered today. With modern conveniences, you really don't have to leave your home if you don't want to. But before modern conveniences, you had to leave to do anything. You want to look something up? Got to go to the library. You want to mail something? Got to go to the post office. You want to get in touch with a publisher, you have to locate their office and travel there.
Every aspect of life, forced you to contact another human being in order to get ahead. And forces you to get out of the house.
Nowadays, you can get everything you want delivered to you. Business is conducted online from the comfort of your home. Entertainment is fed to you through screens.
You can't do any of those things without money and most jobs require you to leave your house. Unless of course you leech off your mommy.
>Lovecraft was pretty much a virgin until 35
>He actually hated sex but was good at it
Kind of based.
He's right. Sex is fine, but it's really only a little bit better than just beating off real quick and moving on with your day. I'd rather be working on something.
Hemingway is one of the worst writers of all time
High on Life had good writing
it's always been shit.
Both were written by west cucks, what'd you expect ?
they hire morons who are bad and have no taste
Millenials are allergic to sincerity. Everything needs to be double layered in irony and snark because they are so enlightened and above it all.
Are you implying vidya writing
was ever good?
Being extremely basic and straight-forward is superior to this assault of glib quipping.
I'd prefer no writing over Rick and Morty writing
it used to.
>Raziel with boots
whatwhatwhat
It was probably better they didn't need a lot of writing. Today's games are just bad movies with some interaction.
And I'd argue even the bad writing of king's quest and the likes was more intelligent than today's
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing?
Written by people who don't read, and whose entire experience with writing consists of video games and maybe some movies which isn't much better.
If they have never seen good writing in their entire lives, how would they be able to produce one?
>whose entire experience with writing consists of video games and maybe some movies
The bulk of their writing experience comes from twitter. Insincere snark is the language of social media.
Drenching your stories in irony and sarcasm helps cover your ass in case you accidentally offend someone. "No no no, I was just heckin joking! I didn't actually MEAN anything."
Not going to justify that crap but seeing the current state of the world were literally doing the Peace sign will destroy your life, using Irony to cover your ass seems to be a good defense mechanism.
>oh geez oh wow I hopin' heck I don't offend anyone
Written by the people who making pissing on Jesus jokes. It would mean more if they actually were genuine but in reality the hand wringers of modern writing make insanely offensive jokes when it's at the expense of "the other side". Also true comedians don't give a crap if they offend someone or not, sometimes the lesson is "don't be so uptight, grandma".
High on life is at least being cringe on purpose. Bespoken literally thinks the dialog is cool.
high on life wasn't nearly as obnoxious as i feared it would be and the game was actually kinda fun. it felt like one of those experimental b tier games you'd see on shelves during the PS2 era.
i really liked how the tooltip was delivered through an in universe forum complete with trolls and morons posting nonsense
>High on life is at least being cringe on purpose.
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. Plus, i have a feeling that it didn't need to be cringe on purpose because it would have ended cringey even if it didn't.
My problem with this kind of humor is that there is no joke there except reference to something cringey that is funny to remember. That becomes stale, especially when everyone and their grandma does that. Like Robot Chicken once the novelty of stop motion adult swim show worn out: yeah, He-Man was cheesy and 1960s Aquaman was useless, but where is the joke?
Millenials were never funny. When they get total creative freedom you get abortions like your pic related.
You know what you're getting with Rick and Morty and their games always has at least one pretty funny thing. I don't, however, want an action game written for people who are so stoned they don't know what day it is so the game has to remind them every 30 seconds.
>"Wow, a talking gun, wow that's not normal, guns don't normally talk!"
That's not what any person would say if their Glock started talking to them. Most people would start with asking "how" and "why" not just saying "Wow that's not normal and wow that just happened!". Like, let's skip the part addressing the people asleep in the back of the audience. We don't need to tell the 4 year olds that it isn't normal for guns to talk. Even if a wacky adventure world if it's not normal it's going to be demonstrated without knocking you on the head with it and gasp, it might be more mentally engaging this way.
But seriously, it's because they think the average person is baked out of their mind or 100% ESL from China (the case of Disney movies).
>But seriously, it's because they think the average person is baked out of their mind
No, they think the average person who would buy a game about talking guns featuring the voices of Rick and Morty is baked out of their mind. I would hazard to guess that they are correct.
>muhlennial
it's all gen x still cope
Video games become the preserve of homosexual artists instead of aspy programmers.
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing?
To quote Stephen King "to be a great writer you need to become a great reader"
These writer spend their days arguing on social media about garbage shows made by other hacks, and picking up whatever lingo sounds cool atm.
And they wonder why people are flocking to japs for more bearable writing as simple as that is.
the "millenial writing" is actually gen x writing for zoomers but what it actually is is homosexuals online who have to ree at other generations because they lack the introspection to understand things past "group to blame for everything".
"the new generation is lazy and doesn't like to work" is something that has been said ever since the concept of generation was invented
It's more true than ever though, Zoomers won't even work fast food. There wasn't a teenager shortage when Millennials were 16.
>Zoomers won't even work fast food
Based
>1 new post
>t.fatty who orders food 5 days a week
Factually incorrect. Millenials actually took on fewer jobs than Zoomers are. Teen employment rate was at its all-time lowest in 2008 and has been rising since, with a tiny dip during covid shutdowns.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/06/21/after-dropping-in-2020-teen-summer-employment-may-be-poised-to-continue-its-slow-comeback/
If zoomers are lazier, they aren't showing it by not taking on jobs.
Oh frick off you can go to any traditionally entry job now and see there's shortages. No, I'm not going to ignore my lying eyes.
Companies lie about shortages all the time because it lets them beg for gibs and immigrants.
I can go the fricking Wendy's and see it's short staffed and I can also tell you that the places that do have staff are absolutely atrociously managed. So no, frick off, I can tell you from personal experience things have gone hill fast in the last 10 years. You're not going to rewrite the history of Eurasia you piece of shit, I know how it once was.
They're 'short staffed' because a business like Wendy's relies on minimizing labor costs as much as is possible to make money.
It will always be short-staffed because why pay 5 people to work a moderate amount if 4 working hard is JustAsGood.
No frick off, given Zoomers aspirations are to be TikTok influencers and Twitch streamers, it's very obvious the direction society is going and it's going to massive gaps in all the jobs that matter. I don't get this Zoomer insistency of dodging this bullshit, your generate is worse than Millennials when it comes to special snowflake bullshit. Always quick to throw stones but the second stones get thrown back you fricking cry like a baby. Society is absolutely doomed and we can only pray Generation Alpha sees the absolutely lost Zoomer generation of couch surfing uncles and homeless single wine aunts scares them from being so fricking lazy.
Just get some common sense about how businesses are run.
Stop defending Zoomers like your life depends on it.
looks like you wont get to retire surfing off the labor of younger generations like your parents did, baldy. Sorry i dont have much sympathy. Enjoy wage cucking into your fast approaching 50s and early grave. I will fortnite dance at your wake
Yeah, and this is why everyone hates modern jobs. It's not just in fast-food that it's like this, it's like this everywhere now. All companies constantly look for ways to "trim the fat" and all it results in, are too few workers that are forced to work like animals because management would rather have them work double-time all the time, rather than just doing the right fricking thing and hiring that one extra guy to take the load off.
Problem is, democracy don't work. Everyone knows no one wants immigrants, and yet, the politicians betray their own people all the time and constantly take in immigrants. And the western politicians have done this constantly since the end of the second ww. Every time there's an honest poll, people overwhelmingly decide against importing more stupid third-worlders and they're over-ruled by their own traitorous politicians every single time.
A shortage of food workers doesn't mean people are working less, fricktard. Have you considered there might be more jobs these days than in the past?
Uber driving and other gig shit is everywhere now. Amazon, UPS, and FedEx have more employees than ever because everything is delivered these days. People are getting paid to be full-time moderators for Facebook. The federal government just dumped a frickload of money into construction grants, so there's way more construction jobs available. This is also leading to an influx of tradesmen like electricians and plumbers. Why the hell would anyone work fast food when all that shit exists and pays more? Get your head out of your ass.
Most cities don't' have a fricking shipping facility in them you moron. You think all the Zoomers are taking the bus 20 miles to the Amazon Hub? Actually moronic take.
No, but the adults do. And you know who no longer is working fast food? Adults. The pew research source above literally shows that significantly more kids are working than there were ten years ago.
If you have such a good memory, think back. Have you ever seen an adult working in fast food? In retail? Yes? Okay, there you have it. Fast food and retail employee shortages are therefore impacted by adult employment opportunities. In fact, it's BECAUSE more adults are not working these jobs that kids are working more now.
When the economy is in the shitter, like it was in 2008, adults settle for fast food or retail jobs. They aren't right now because there's tons of better jobs available. So the only people working retail or fast food are kids and morons, and there aren't enough to fill them.
>gig shit
That's not a job. That's a cope. That's "I'm totally employed! I burn my own gas and frick up my own vehicle for shit pay".
~~*They*~~ have been claiming there's a job-shortage since the early 20th century. It's just the usual israelite game where they try to get as large a portion of the pie for themselves as humanly possibly. You wanna know why the rich are currently richer than ever before? This is why. We all need to become better at saying no. no more. Fricking pay us, or else. Since we clearly have been extremely bad at that, THEY are now richer than ever, while the random average poorgay is clinging on for dear life.
Well that's just an idiotic statement
Well, it's the truth.
the "new generation" is literally braindead however. You can argue about different things being funny or interesting from generation to generation but 80% under 20 are legit fricking morons and this isnt even hyperbole
gen x doesn't need to write scripts anymore, it's full on 30 something millennials
writting to please melanine homosexuals and normie homosexuals, instead of writting to tell a great story
>pic
The schizo convo we all want more of
White people suck
white people made the things you're using a metric to judge modern things unworthy, brownoid.
>metric
you're am*rican gaylord
>brownoid doesn't understand basic english
go back to the mud fields
modern vidya writers have no interesting experiences to draw inspiration from or even good ideas to begin with so they default to being the most insufferably unfunny morons on the planet to make other insufferably unfunny morons like them
also mediocrity is praised instead of exceptionalism. truly a plague on video games and entertainment media as a whole
>MUH LIFE EXPERIENCES
You literally sound like a stupid instagram prostitute trying to sell a shady tourist trap scheme that encourages their simps to book holidays to overpriced exotic resorts.
The problem is NOT life experiences, it is the resources you've built your inner world with.
Most tales are derived from older, timeless tales that speak to everybody. The fricking greeks solved the structure of a story since antiquity.
The problem with most modern writers is that instead of growing up reading / being read traditional folk tales, they've been raised on the plastic / sanitized disney versions, cartoon networks and harry potter.
They have no grip into the real world. They do not build their tales around timless, universal idea that have crossed the ages among pretty much every civilization to have ever existed, they're building their stories from scraps blindly obeying arbitrary rules made up by hacks to pander to particular fanbases and/or ideologically motivated consoomers.
i didn't really read all that but you know i'm right.
Nice trips homosexual, I kneel, also frick you
shoulda got more life experiences ;3
You don't need lived experiences. The big brain shit is to draw from history and real accounts. Truth is stranger than fiction and technically you're still using lived experience even if those experiences don't belong to you.
Western studios started making games and people bought them for some reason. Meanwhile japanese games are mostly in just as good of a place as they were 20 years ago.
The problem was including "writing" in games in the first place.
no, the problem was making characters voiced
No, the problem is insane game budgets so they have to make every game as accessible as possible instead of having modest budget games. Everything either has to be a hundred million dollar grand slam or fail.
instead of cool guys like the doom dude or american mcgee, western devs now are transexual pedophiles and basedboys
it will get worse
ESG DEI
when i was younger you never saw this hostile generational fighting just the usual old people thinking young people were lazy and stupid and young people thinking old people didnt understand them. there seems to be a way more toxic generational hatred then before. (this is also happening on a sex and race basis)
What i also hate is how teenagers and young adults get everything filterd through an algoritmh now so everyone talks and types the same about X subject (like this thread which every kid has seen the youtube video crying about millenials so thats going to be what they believe now.
>filterd through an algoritmh
yeah that never happened before, there was no tv, news, magazines, newspapers, the church, those weren't filtered at all
try to think for a little bit. what could be the difference mhhhh
Everything is done to break in-group solidarity so that people are isolated and have to rely on governmental authorities and/or big corporations for guidance
This, it's why boomers don't leave anything to their kids.
There was always hostile generational fighting you dumb frogposting turdburglar. Even when boomers were young, the elders of their time were seething and throwing fits over the youth smoking plants and partying while having sex without getting married first. Those boomers, young at the time, fought to stick it to the man. Of course, then they became the man and decided everyone younger than them shouldn't have the same freedoms and opportunities.
if you werent 92IQ you would understand what was written. these things are being amplified more than they have ever been
>they're being amplified
No, they're not. You think they are because someone told you they are.
LOL hey anon has feminism made men and women like each other more or less? and has it helped the sexual relationships and innate struggles we have with the opposite sex or not?
Who is telling me i should believe this anon?
>discussion about generational divide
>WHATABOUTFEMINISM DOE?!?????
the dumbwit is stunned that this happens not just on generational lines
The Sexual Revolution happened under Boomers. If people didn’t become more conservative as they age we would be living in even worse conditions than the sexual stuff they’re pushing on children now all of a sudden.
>if people didn't become moronic as they age then le bad thing would happen!!!!
One of the worst parts of modernity is how soillenials and broccoliheads, at least the ones that fall for e-daddy grifters like neoscam hyde, andrew tate, and post-2016 4chinz, are all speedrunning becoming pearl clutching boomer prostitutes trying to revive 1600s Salem.
The oldgays were right about the boomers.
Lmao Zoomers are social media addicted cowards. They aren't smarter, they're tech illiterate, they don't want to program, or do art, or anything outside of being an eceleb. So get off your high horse, your generation is doomed. And maybe you should take a look at your life and wonder if you're any different from your zoomer comrades.
You sound like every bitter grandpa ever
Smugness
Snarkiness
Sarcasm
Self-satisfaction
Dishonesty
Quips
Quirkiness
Pop culture references
Social media references
American political messaging
Quota check marks
Fetishization
Casual Hollywoodesque sexification
Flanderization
Self insertion
Aimless cynicism
Shock value edginess/ugliness
To name a very few
>Elden Ring has none of that
Mitsubishi-san... I kneel...
>Flanderization
That CIA guy was great in far cry 3. In 5, not so much.
dont be disingenuous. I already explained that these things happend, they just are being zoomed in on more and the fire is being fanned harder than ever
I mean are we gonna pretend like being a homosexual on Twitter is any better? Talk about throwing stones in a glass house.
I like other races/nations/ethnicities/cultures. I like diversity of humanity and histories and languages.
I just advocate that they should stay in their own nations, which upholds diversity and those nations.
>like nobody ever hated other sex before, shaking myy head.
yeah women arent men and men arent women so there is always going to be some misunderstanding. feminism has been a tool to look at these frustrations we have and amplify them till men and women dont want to be around each other anymore.
youre a dumb Black person
Nothing. Did you forget that Kingdom Hearts released decades ago? The writing of Forspoken is overblown.
>Did you forget that Kingdom Hearts released decades ago?
and?
NTA but it's incredibly obvious you are a zoomer no matter how much you try to falseflag oldhomosexualry. Not even zoomers like zoomers.
you type like youre 17 with your incessant need to use the term animals
Butthurt christgay who thinks he's a special snowflake handcrafted by space daddy.
Hey, do you browse r/exmuslim pr r/atheism by any chance?
literature got worse
>Sure. Plenty of stuff I don't know. However, I do know, that people irrationaly on the opposite sex have always existed. Women hating men is nothing new, same as men beating the shit out of every woman they see isn't anything new.
LOL hey anon has feminism made men and women like each other more or less? and has it helped the sexual relationships and innate struggles we have with the opposite sex or not?
whats it like to lack reading comprehension?
Men are their own worst enemies because you all show your asses on social media every day saying how much you hate women. And most of you are low value losers with no jobs or hobbies or drive in life, why the frick would any woman look at you twice? The majority of you would've been killed at war a few hundred years ago but now bottom tier men think they're entitled to spread their seed and create even more short balding ugly offspring. Feminism just gave women the opportunities to have their own jobs and afford their own homes without needing to settle for some useless scrote who'd beat her and the kids. If you can't cope with the fact that women are looking for more in men now than simply having a penis then you should just do society a favor and have a nice day.
And if women cant cope with the fact that most men dont want used up old prostitutes for a wife then they too could do society a favour and kill themselves, no?
no you will raise pedro's kid and enjoy it
No, that's all men's fault, like always.
>just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and become taller and more handsome!
ok groomer
You are just as bad as incel homosexuals because you generalize thinking every man goes on social media and hates women. I'm so glad I found a traditional girl early in life instead of a whiny femcel like you.
Lolmao epic bait. I see you've really gone on a real proper trawling expedition, there. Nice one.
youre a teenager and i dont feel like talking to you
>So you're sane
Well yeah. So I wouldn't call myself "racist" or say that "racism is good". In fact I am one of the least racist factions because I want to preserve the variety of ethnicities and cultures, instead of mushing them into one blob of cosmopolitan grayness, located somewhere in the west.
too much influence from crap like Borderlands and Family Guy
Gen-X are creatively vacant, that's what happened.
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing
Literally millennials, but they will cope, seeth and deny all responsibility. Millennials are almost as destructive as boomers are, except they have no money to show for it.
>"why are EVERY new media like that"
>keep citing the same 5 exemples
I think I know why this kind of humour has been prevalent for like 15 years now.
Since every kid grows up watching cable and shitposting on the internet, everyone now grows up a critic.
This thread is a perfect example of what's the norm.
If everyone's a critic, everyone's "literate" about tropes and the basic structure of humour. The most direct and easy way to express one's "in" on this sort of knowledge is through ironic humour. The examples in the OP are facile and to the point.
Doubly, since everyone's a critic, insecure writers space themselves from their own work fearing that they too may be the butt-end of someone else's better joke.
joss whedon
he's millennial
Ha ha I have made an ironic observation
>I hate my wife xD
>I hate my life xD
what's zoomzoom humor like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XduYIKu20Q
fricked the link up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWo12TtN9Kk
>there's a gay video essay about this stupid video
Now that's funny.
Zoomers have been living under the shadow of Millennials their whole lives. So they just adopted all of Millennial interests, only they twist it to be more absurdist.
>I hate xD
>>I hate my wife xD
is very much a boomer joke
Literally, Figuratively, Objectively & Subjectivity Reddit happened.
my own pet theory is that vidya writers and really current writers in general believe that they already know everything, which is much more anthemic to writing anything good than merely not having sowed your wild oats.
Reminder that people who enjoy this writing are the ones who make "Japanse '"Humor'" threads.
Screenshot has SOA, lmfao
SOA? XDDDDLMAAOo
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing?
Millennials
boy what a terrible thread, you're all homosexuals
>I-i-it wasn't us, it was the Xers/Boomers/Zoomers!
No wonder that the generation raised on participation awards can't handle criticism either
The only "writing" most people interact with in their daily lives are reddit or twitter posts, and they have no understanding of good narrative conventions. You'd think they would because of how consumptive people are with media today, but nothing ever gets a chance to linger or be ingested fully because people are burning their brains out binging hundreds of episodes of shows per week. They're fricked. Completely moronic by their life.
every single basic narrative device is met with ridicule by people who watch too much of anything and nothing particularly good. nobody is allowed to be a "bad" character because it will be called bad writing.
>omg hes so unlikable, why does he keep doing this stuff if he doesnt like it? talk about shitty writing, imagine writing a violent psychopath and expecting anyone to relate to him.
Painfully true. If all you watch is Marvel capeshit you would literally not understand a real story.
Why are all Millennial writers men in their 50s like this?
what recent games actually has very good writing then? there must be some
FF16
HiFi Rush
Armored Core 6
>FF16
LMAO
Hi Barry
Rick and Morty is shit too so I don't understand your argument.
>and your other talking gun
The Alien gun game's writing felt like they set the voice actors down in front of the game's plot points and events and just told them to say whatever they thought their character would say with no other instruction or script.
if you don't care about moronic dialogue how is forspoken? is the gameplay decent?
Forspoken isn't political, it's just bad.
Political means "has Black folk and/or trannies" now.
Every day I forgive Fabio just that little bit more, since his unrelenting autism has nearly killed these cancerous krautchan tumours for good
Who?
The problem isn't politics on their own.
It is this facile and insulting, one-sided bull that pretends that it is taking a stand by saying basically nothing you couldn't get off of a Raytheon recruitment ad.
As well, they directly make it the point of the work. "Haha, she is Black and a Woman and Loud and Proud! You INCELS can't handle it, right?". As though childish identitarianism like that is anything admirable.
and to think people are trying to say that Forspoken is only hated because of the black female lead.
The music would still suck, the gameplay would be ass, the writing would still be Borderlands tier, the world would still be empty if you replaced Frey with a guy like this
>"C-CHAOS!"
>*sharts*
Forspoken looks fun in a post ironic way. Like Disaster: Day of Crisis. That game was fire. Also Forspoken has a japanese dub and im curious how that is. Gonna pirate it when I clear out me hard drive
>Forspoken looks fun in a post ironic way
but plays like ass since it's the FFXV team
>2023
>leftoid homosexuals still use this moronic strawman despite being explained how moronic it is literally hundreds of times
I'm just going to assume that all leftists either have selective hearing or are severely autistic. Probably both
There is no reason to even make the attempt at good writing in the first place, because the majority of people won't be literate enough to understand or appreciate it, and the small minority that can has become so poisoned by social media clout chasing that they will readily insist it's "literally the absolute worst writing ever in the history of video games" solely to flex on others.
What happens in both those games after they make their dumb jokes?
no idea about the alien gun game but Forspoken uses similar, crappy, writing for the rest of the game and DLC
Millenials are coddled and never had the opportunity to have genuine experiences, as a result, they do not believe in genuine experiences.
also something something zionists
Reminder in the High on Life DLC, Mortygun is just completely written out by having a time skip, and them saying that the main character dropped the gun and lost it, but they were lucky enough to find a similar gun who is a girl.
I can't imagine being so disliked that you're falsely accused of rape and then when you're acquitted people are still like "frick you homosexual"
Marvel movies
>modern vidya writing?
Maybe check comic writing. Or movies and tv series. Then think about it.
>What went wrong with modern vidya writing?
Everything is trying to be an HBO character drama. I guess it is vidya is now written not by the people that emerged from the industry or legit writers but by the folk that didn't fit even in streaming services' writers room. You know, the type that strikes now (or did it end?).
Their popularity. Billions of players with no regard for what kind shit is being sold to them makes it so you dont really have make anything too impressive to sell your product.
And even if you frick up you can just "fix" things by making people forget your frick up with DLC or by just waiting and releasing a new game.
What the frick kind of video game has "writing"? What are you gays doing all day?
CEOs and shareholders needed more money so they demand publishers and developers to find any avenue to do so. The obvious way to increase your revenue is to have a bigger customerbase which is why all these companies (not just vidya) are targeting an alternative crowd while hoping that their original crowd will still gobble up their shit.
>blame millennials
>when it's corporate boards of boomers tasking gen X with marketing to zoomers
Products are always made for what the group funding it thinks the target market wants and you're realizing you're not the target market anymore.
>Flopwoken: Strawman
>High on Life: Strawman
go make your own Shakespearean script and sell it to a gamedev then, idiots
They’re full with diversity hire talent already
>dont call gen z millennials
>don't call gen x millennials
>dont call millennials gen z
when are we going back to just calling people buttholes? we've lost too few IQ points this past 3 years to be able to handle generational fighting.
The boomer zoomer fafoomer shit really did a number on internet discourse in general.
It’s literally just people guessing most of the time anyways
>Ganker got filtered by writing
Because idiots today focus more on being "clever" than being "good". Good writing is a damn hard thing to do, but everyone can emulate Whedon-esque garbage.
The current social media landscape trains people to be fake and dishonest, and never be genuine.
Doing anything artistic or creative then becomes a challenge because that would require some actual vulnerability and actual expression, so instead they just make sealclap political talking points and wrap everything in 10 protective layers of irony.
It's not so much a creative trend as much as it is a view into how most people today are not allowed to express themselves in ways not sanctioned by someone else first.
Normally these pseud points make me roll my eyes but this is eloquently spot on
Add to this that it's become so normal that there is no difference to them between the two anymore and they think they're being genuine by acting (ironically) this way.
A permanent observer makes genuine behavior impossible and only main character syndrome exists.
life experience is a maymay, only weebs who suck off everything that comes outta miyahacki's mouth think that is profound insight
if he were right then rockstars and actors would be writing great literature, but they are not
hell he himself should be able to write good stuff but he sticks to second and third-rate mediums like cartoons and comics
the reality of it all is, most millennials and younger people have generally very poor media literacy. if they unironically consoomed better things like great works of literature and films from guys bresson, bergman, tarkovsky, rivette, vlacil, etc. rather than nolan or cohen brothers slop then they would have reference points to build off of and expand the conversations
but no, we are getting games from a generation of sex starved sperglords who only read light novels, genreslop like sanderson (genre fiction can and has been good in the past) and watch marvelshit and breaking bad.
It was so funny when Xbox trannies got mad when people compared Forspoken's crap writing to High on Life's, especially after they spent weeks using the latter to justify their subscription service.
blacks sell less in the gaming market
>game released 2010
god i wonder if microsoft even still has people with half the balls as those execs back in the day to veto that
Are you aware that there wasa writer strike recently, right?
People were fighting for basic human rights and the only thing chuds can do is to cry over fricking video games stories