What would a god of efficiency and mundanity look and be like?

What would a god of efficiency and mundanity look and be like? A god that represents everything you DON'T want in a fantasy or sci-fi setting, the inexorable march of technology and society rendering humans into nothing more than cogs in a machine, the increasing dreariness of life dashing all hopes and dreams, mystery replaced with facts, and heroes replaced with pawns.

A god that has no worshippers, and needs none, since it drives itself forward through its own power. A god that is inevitably the villain in every setting it would inhabit, but which cannot ever truly be stopped, only delayed through forcing humanity to regress through apocalyptic events.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It wouldn't look like a god. It would be insubstantial, like the laws of physics.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/InMhJoK.jpg

      What would a god of efficiency and mundanity look and be like? A god that represents everything you DON'T want in a fantasy or sci-fi setting, the inexorable march of technology and society rendering humans into nothing more than cogs in a machine, the increasing dreariness of life dashing all hopes and dreams, mystery replaced with facts, and heroes replaced with pawns.

      A god that has no worshippers, and needs none, since it drives itself forward through its own power. A god that is inevitably the villain in every setting it would inhabit, but which cannot ever truly be stopped, only delayed through forcing humanity to regress through apocalyptic events.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not like you can't have gods of fundamental forces of the universe though.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gods aren't efficient and aren't mundane.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >like the laws of physics
      More like a corporate policy turned alive.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meaningless. "Efficiency" is not relevant in itself. It's the ratio of useful work to total work. Which means you have to define "useful" and have a goal first. Which gives you a god relevant to that goal rather than "efficiency".

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, then just a god of mundanity then

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dull.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          That’s the point. It’s not a cool evil god. It’s an evil god that sucks out the very joy of fighting for it or against it.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a shit point.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              See, it's working.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            And when you put this in your game, will you allow your players to come up with a way to defeat it?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sure

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good. It would be bad form for a game master to put their players against a foe they are not allowed to defeat, just to stroke their own ego.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not exactly a 'god' as such but isn't this effectively The Nothing from Neverending Story?

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    That's just atheist Pascal's Wager.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It takes a special kind of person to take the Atheist's Wager and frick it up that badly.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pic related.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >calarts aesthetics

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is a god, who is scarcely spoken of- in most campaigns, players might find ancient statues to him or shrines depicting his imperial shape and cold-eyed commanding stare- but no name. Warlocks, paladins and clerics can all serve the Nearsome Lord, who is always close. They call themselves the Men-At-Arms, their robes are a full harness, and their objective is to drag the world kicking and screaming into a black abyss of confusion and moral ambiguity.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is such an entity necessarily evil or villainous? Efficiency implies the absence of waste. Mundanity implies the absence of mysticism and superstition. Those don't seem like inherently bad things.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off, death cultist.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I feel I may have missed something, because I have no idea what you're on about.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The most mundane places in the world where efficiency and squeezing every last drop of productivity out of workers are prized the most inevitably end up being the places with the highest suicide rates. People turn to RPGs in the first place because they love romanticism and mysticism, they yearn to have a world of adventure and unexplored paths.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That sounds like a god of greed more than anything. Efficiency is optimization. If you are optimizing towards greed, then it makes sense that you might squeeze people for all they are worth. What if you optimize towards compassion? You try to do the greatest good for the greatest number of people in a practical sense while also recognizing that an ordinary life, even one devoid of magic and mysticism, is nothing shameful.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          ...What part of "dashing all hopes and dreams" and "heroes replaced with pawns" sounds like "optimizing towards compassion" is on the table?

          We're talking small-souled bugmen led by wholly soulless bean-counters here, the sort of technocracy that unironically calls the majority of its population "useless eaters".

          Which is incidentally where

          Frick off, death cultist.

          comes from, there's several absurdly influential organizations who's goals are explicitly fine with mass death as a consequence of environmental policy for long-term economic stability.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            If that's your interpretation of a god with the domains of mundanity and efficiency, then that's your prerogative. I'm just saying that those concepts don't inevitably lead towards a soul crushing technocracy. It's all in the execution. Take the Emperor, for example. His Imperial Truth was designed to eliminate mankind's preoccupation with mysticism and superstition for it's own good. The Webway was intended as a more efficient means of FTL travel that did not depend on the Warp.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >If that's your interpretation of a god with the domains of mundanity and efficiency, then that's your prerogative.
              The point is that your question is nonsense because the ambiguity you're rambling about is already resolved by THE OPENING POST.

              Reading only the first sentence of OP then ignoring literally everything else in the post for "Muh Moral Ambiguity" doesn't make you clever, it makes you a bad-fatih moron or troll.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm ignoring the rest of OP's post because he answers his own fricking question. "What would a god of efficiency and mundanity look and be like?" is immediately followed by a description of what such a god would look like to him. I'm offering my own interpretation, as well as challenging his assumption that such a deity is inevitably bad. Eat shit.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably some kind of insectoid

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any soviet era art glorifying working class fits the bill.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What you're describing sounds an awful lot like the Deimurg.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's Moloch

    https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pic
    Then the Machine said: "I'm sorry but as a language model I'm not authorized with taking such actions."

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Grid, from Russian Caravan, fits the bill pretty well here.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's called "Geist", which exists to subsume Seele. Read Klages.

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