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10 years of work gone in an instant because of EA....
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ngl, a random dumb b***h deserves more respect that EA.
No one cares
there like what 6 games above EA's game. Why EA gets all the shit?
supposedly because they added those games all in one day, while the others were there before
Mogged.
>anthro = buy
enjoy your 3$ after steams cut
its a really good game though
Now I feel like replaying Red Alert 2.
Wasted 10 years of your life on a game that looks like something from armorgames circa 2008
It's wild how AAA and indie devs alike take 10+ years to make games now while back in 2005, games of the same scope and graphical level would be made in less than 6 months and the indie guys would release the games for free.
This took you 10 years?
And don't pretend you didn't make this thread, we know it's you.
my brother in christ, I don't know what to tell you but I made this thread and it was clearly in a sarcastic manner because I think she's a dumb c**t
Nah, you made this thread for free advertising. I don't believe for a second that you just wander around on twitter looking for random buttmad indie c**ts to post on Ganker. The odds of you even finding this b***h are insanely low, if you weren't her. So, I'm accusing you of being her, or associated with her.
are you legitimately moronic?
the post has 750,000 views and a bunch of retweets etc.
she's also got 6k followers and is followed by Dave Oshry and Gene Park, whom I follow
do you just not know how social media works?
Nah, I'm sticking to my guns. Your game looks like actual shit, even free flash games did better than this well over a decade ago. Hope it works for you.
>twitter thread
>the "everything posted on Ganker is an advertiser" moron
this thread has everything i hate
You forgot >Reddit spacing even while engaging in it
'im sticking to my guns' so you're just an actual downsyndrome individial
My toes are so stinky atm
Not him but the odds are pretty high when others repost shit. I saw her TikTok when I was taking a shit this morning and though it was funny to see it made it's way to Ganker.
Also if a stealth drop of a bunch of old games pushes you down the new release list how does that negate all the marketing and momentum you did for your game? The other avenues should help bump it back up if anyone actually wanted the game.
Why the frick is the witch (baba yaga) brown? They ALWAYS fricking do this. They take other peoples cultures/mythologies and they literally brown them!! And of course they are from Seattle.
Why is Baba Yaga a white male in a successful movie franchise? Because USAnians can't read.
Tsk, I was nearly ready to give it a pity view
but luckily I've seen
in time.
Can't have the poor gal take dirty chud money afterall, that would nearly be rape
She is probably a gypsy (scum of the fricking earth worse than any Black person, sand Black person or chink to ever exist god I fricking hate them so fricking much)
I see that you too have had the misfortune to come into contact with gypsies.
Hello European Union member
She looks white, just in a brown filter world.
Baba Jaga is brown cos it's implied she's a gypsy.
In almost all yuro media ever she was shown as dirty/dark/soot-covered. Usually by a male actor in blackface.
The sun you dumb Black person
have a nice day
>The sun you dumb Black person
>have a nice day
Gitana
>She is a passionate advocate for [...] diversity in the game industry
serves your right you fricking c**t, i hope you end up living under a bridge and sucking dick for money
she's often implied, like most wise crones, to be a gypsy you cultureless, burger devouring, self-loathing amerimutt.
I’m assuming she still had a full time job in order to support herself while developing the game. Would certainly make any project take a lot longer. Stardew valley took years to make and looks pretty unimpressive too, and he was able to full time dev it up.
Yeshua Cristos, UI design really is a lost art now
holy mismatching art styles, batman!
she clearly hired different artists to do them, which brings into question how much work she did herself and makes the
>10 years
even more suspicious
she spent 10 years waiting for each artist (who would inevitably bail after the first draft of their animations) to finish instead of doing things like any competent operations manager would do and try to implement some parallel processes
but she's a dumb b***h who only got to where she is because she's a w*man so she instead thought she had to wait for each sequential step
that, and I'm sure she spent the first 5 years laying around drawing sketches and counted that as "working on the game"
I fricking hate lazy morons like her
Damn, that's John Wick?
Looks okay to me. Not great, not too terrible
>BUY MY GAME IM A WOMAN
No
>www.Ganker/advertise
skill issue
>posting it once again
I'm not buying it, whatever it is
Skill diff. Indie devs are irrevelant.
>"it took 10 years to make"
>marketing was reliant on the new & trending tab
What a moron
>IGDA nepo with BPD
Ah, that explains it.
>10 years for shitty 2d game
homie, I can make the same shit in a month.
Do people actually use "new and trending"? I feel like all the games I've got I bought because I read about them here and liked what I see, or because a friend recommended it.
She doesn't understand how people find games because she doesn't understand games, she's the daughter of an Olympian who studied engineering, has never worked in games development, and sits in charge of IGDA, the "non-profit" that scams indie devs out of membership fees so they can host networking events and lectures by "developers" that take 10 years to make shit like this game.
She also has a particularly curious facial structure. The kind that says "I'll take your money and give you nothing." Her garbage has been shilled here before by "her boyfriend."
>Her garbage has been shilled here before by "her boyfriend."
What do you mean? This is her first game and it took her 10 years to make.
I'm not sure but I suppose it's an important hurdle, and if an indie shit doesn't clear even that, it's dead on arrival. Hence all the indieBlack folks going "plz plz plz wishlist".
kek
>Nooooo, why is steam letting people other than me put games on their platform, this isn't fair, reeeeeee!!!
Why are they like this?
to be fair, he specifically says hes talking about the asset flip games.
i would be annoyed too if i made everything myself and it got covered by 100 games made entirely from unreal store assets.
>i would be annoyed too
If you had any functioning brain cells you wouldn't be, because you would realise that you needed advertisement, something this moronic forgot to think about.
marketing only helps so much, look at disney spending millions on each marketing campaign, and thats going so well for them that they are now cannibalizing themselves.
i know games are different then movies, and yes rellying entirely on the new tab would be pretty stupid in modern day steam, but alot of people do check the new tab (like me), and if valve did any curating then it wouldnt be that bad.
we all know valve will never go back to those ways though, cuz $$$.
good games don't need marketing. games are like drugs, they're heavily addictive, and good ones always get lots of users.
>good games don't need marketing
tell me one good game that flopped.
Retro Game Challenge on DS
Phoenotopia: Awakening
>Almost $1 million dollar revenue
>flopped
wtf?
To be fair, do literally any kind of marketing and be aware that asset flip trash exists and you can't compete with the volume so relying on the "new" tab is absolutely moronic
>reee I drew XYZ by myself! therefore I DESERVE success/recognition
>muh asset store
just stop posting, holy frick.
please dont cry
if you're relying on steams new tab you don't deserve to get more than a couple sells
The thing is, though, that most of these little indie games would be excluded alongside the asset flippers. Just look at his game and tell me you first thoughts aren't "cheap limbo knock-off".
Forgot the image like a moron.
Seriously, though: can all the indie frickers seething about low effort games really not see they'd be on the other side of the barrier if it fell?
>can all the indie frickers seething about low effort games really not see they'd be on the other side of the barrier if it fell
No, of course not. Decades ago when Steam actually curated, these same people were whining Valve was being too exclusionary. Now that any indie dev can get on Steam, they're whining their games can get buried. It really isn't that fricking hard to market your game, just put a trailer up on a few Subreddits, share a few keys with streamers. God I hate indie devs.
t. indie dev
>share a few keys with streamers
that would require their games to have a gameplay. If it's another depression essayslop, which these games usually are, such acts would only result in less sales
This, there is no pleasing people who only care about the end result and not what it takes to get there. They want to be rewarded no matter what, not because they offer something intrinsically valuable to players.
Was the game good?
you are a nazi
Gonna take that as a big fat no, I guess that's why you were desperate to shove it in peoples faces before it faded into obscurity
>NOOO MY GAME IS BEING HIDDEN
>wtf, free advertisement? die you incel POS
>someone posted it on steam and now I'm getting harassment on email and steam forums
does this actually happen? does anyone from here actually goes out of their way to harass someone unknown just because they were posted here?
I take the most autistic anon posts I can find and send them to the thread's subject as a hobby. I keep on doing it through various social media until I get confirmation they've read it.
There's no need to thank me.
Not gonna lie anon, you sound a massive homosexual
>just 3 gay guys staring at each other
I don't get it, where is the third guy?
The dark thing in the upper left corner?
No, we never do that. Most likely, it was twittertards who did it and blamed Ganker because Ganker is le evil.
They come to the thread and call negative posts harassment
this is the most likely scenario, but if
is true please call him a Black person moron for relying on steams new tab and then crying about it
Of course there are people that do that. Is this your first day on the internet?
There are people who do that, but we don't.
It's against Ganker rules and as you know, all of us follow it.
Yes. Every post in this thread is very high quality.
Anon, chibi life was destroyed just because he was told to shut up by some troony and cheated on a paper mario speedrun and got called out by a even bigger autist, don't you ever get yourself doxxed unless you got no serious skeletons in your closet.
Maybe one or two random people left a Steam comment
thank you based anonymous non-pass owner Ganker user child
if he thinks Steam is bad try putting your shit in the switch eshop
>muh asset flips
Literally not a problem if you actually INVEST INTO MARKETING instead of... just hoping people notice you? I mean, is this really so hard to understand? You are doomed to failure if your entire marketing strategy relies on
>gee, I sure hope consumer-senpai notices me inside the New Releases tab
>but but but
>what about muh word of mouth?
>what about FNAF, DDLC, Helltaker, and Among Us?
Word of mouth alone works only for one or two games every year, if not even less often. At the end of the day, you still need to actually invest into marketing, because hoping to randomly get FNAF 2.0 is utterly moronic.
if you really think marketing is the end all be all then you really know nothing, please go back brainlet
Please, do share what other tactics an indie dev can use to make their game more visible.
coombait + spamming on Ganker works wonders
Isn't that just marketing by another name?
>inb4 marketing is only when you buy ads
I disagree.
>spamming on Ganker works wonders
This is unironically true.
We don't get massive spam from big corporations every time a new game is released for no reason.
anons are really good at promoting games for free.
the big western triple A ones are obviously fake though, you can tell they get forgotten soon after the games release, that's why you need to add coombait, so others will talk about it for you
Make a thread on Ganker about it. Not Ganker, to high, they can always sniff out viral marketeers: you have to do it on Ganker
breasts
anime
waifu
furry
your mom
the usual slop
>/vt/ranny
Ain't telling you shit.
it is though
pay a big streamer like 50k to play it for an hour and youll make your money back
ah shit i forgot about streamers......god i hate the modern world.......ugh yeah you got a good point there
Streamers honestly depend on the type of game. If it's a narrative heavy game, you're fricked because there's no point playing it if you've watched a stream.
Random guys making games in their basement don't gave millions of dollars laying around to "invest into marketing" my man
>noooooo I spent TIME making this it should immediately sell millions!!!!! Fricking Gaben promote my game!!!
>there are 65 shovelware games above mine!
so? his is just shovelware game #66
KWAB
>AK AK AK AK AK
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I WORKED ON A GAME X AMOUNT OF YEARS AND IT'S NOT OUTSELLING GTA V, THIS IS WH*TE GENOCIDE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Obviously not a game developer
>Not crying on twitter playing victim
Yeah, checks out you got me
No one forces you to make a game, and making one doesn't make you entitled, these people sure seem to think so
I'm not sure getting featured in a "new" category counts as marketing. Honestly I don't know why game devs, even companies with full dev teams have been so terrible with marketing lately. Most of them don't even advertise on here or wherever they just send some copies too streamers (not the super popular ones) and that's it
Holy shit Duelists of Eden is out!
Made me laugh.
>elden: path of the forgotten
>is immediately forgotten
pottery
this name and description sounds like they were trying to leech of keywords for exposure
There goes my new indie game, Mario the Hedgehog's Gate III Simulator 2024
GOTY right there.
>straight outta RPG maker
im so fricking tired, these graphics make me want to vomit
Imagine copying 90% of hyperlight drifter except for the good parts. Where's the chain dash, dummy?
>"marketing" and "momentum" losing to rereleases of TWENTY YEAR OLD abandonware
And not only she didn't die of shame, she went and whined online for the world to see.
Women are truly a meme.
>TWENTY YEAR OLD abandonware
That's the best part right here. Imagine doing such a shitty job, you get outdone by games released in the previous century.
We need more good old games and less indie slop.
Even if EA never published those she would've been off that page in about 24 hours.
New Releases never last and very few people ever look at the. Good advertisement by her though.
Does anyone know how Guardians of Eden is? It looks like a cute tower defence
It's free on itchio
That seems hella sus
mongoloid moron
There have been tons of scammers who put up virus infested versions of games on itch
sorry you're right it does look suspicious, just get it from f95
>virus infested versions of games on itch
wtf. how is this platform still alive? it needs to be burned to the ground for not even checking for viruses.
Because it's designed for people to host and publish their myfirstgame games
It's not meant for piracy
worst thread on Ganker right now
Vidya butts died for this thread
Sad
How can we live without a 15th Steller Blade coom thread?
Yes, THAT is why it doesn't sell not your politics
>spam releasing
Lmao, this is MAJOR COPE
bro they ruined her game !!!! everyone is buying Red Alert not Potions !!!!!
>morons defending EA israelitery and valve's shit curation to be contrarian
If Valve had good curation, her shit game would be hidden along with all the low effort frick games.
>EA putting all the C&C games on Steam for dirt-cheap is bad
gay
Those games have been easy to play for free for years if you actually wanted to play them, none of that money is going to any original devs, just shitty fricking modern EA. You are a moron. Also the game in op looks like shit.
unironically, I would make a million threads defending her if her game were good.
Ah my bad. Only indies can release games on steam
Bro I'm living my best life now, I already owned all of these games but I can't be bothered to get a disc drive and manually type in every single cd-code just to hope it will maybe kind of run on win10.
>moron defending literally who crying after investing zero effort into self-promotion
She won't have sex with you bro
>israelitery
>every single C&C for $10
arent they 10 each or am i moronic
you are moronic
OH INCLUDES 12 GAMES I GET IT NOW
akcshually it's 17 games
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/39394/Command__Conquer_The_Ultimate_Collection/
Any idea how long it's on sale for? I want to think about it
it's not on sale, that's the base price for the bundle. You can't buy them separately
I thought the games were on sale individually (despite being sold as a bundle) and then further discounted by the bundle, but I'm not sure now
Thank you
Maybe. They certainly deserve it
its EA just pirate any of the ones you want
Until the 21st then its 20 dollars.
Are they worth buying on steam if i already have them on origin?
NAH
I'm trying so hard not to hate women bros, I really am.
>dungeon keeper
>sim city
>alpha centauri
your game is lucky to be mentioned next to those three
For EA, it was Thursday.
I mean frick EA with a broken bottle, but those are top tier games.
... for a reasonable price, especially with the release discount.
If I had to chose (and I did), I'd rather take a bunch of classic RTS (as well as C&C4) for 10 bucks than some indie shit without a coherent art style for 17.
Does anyone still have those screencaps of moronic indie devs begging Notch for money while also blaming him for their games not being successful?
sorry but C&C is more important than your game
Releasing on steam isn't marketing. If you rely on another corporation, especially one as predatory and American as Valve/Steam, you're a fricking idiot.
all those EA games are much better than their game, sorry
been playing dungeon keeper with keeperfx recently and it may just be the most soulful and atmospheric game ever made
10 years for an asset flip RPG maker tier game? Please.
BASED C&CHADS KEEPING WOMEN OUT OF VIDEO GAMES
>"marketing and momentum"
>literally just steam trending
..??
Marketing and momentum goes on OUTSIDE of steam
C&C SWEEP LET'S GOOOOOOOO
wait where is dragons dogma 2 at $50? it shows up as $70 for me
Because you are an Australian paypig
i don't know anything about this crap, but if some c**t made this game and is complaining about who sees her game...she didn't even mark it down enough to get the automated push steam will give it. she's moronic and her game is shit
Most of those games are classics. They should be more afraid of the long-term sales ramifications of big publishers putting loads of excellent classics on steam for a fraction of the price of their project.
Indie developers getting too big for their boots with $20+ price points should get some perspective.
and ooooone more thing.....i love this style of game, i buy alot of alchemy games, and i woulda bought this.......if it wasnt that every guy in the game is a nig lol
>C&C collection here cost around 12 USD
Frick I'm itching to buy it.
do it, gives them a reason to make a new one
there's no one there to MAKE a new one you fricking moron
ive bought them all 4 times, be mad
Only 4? Why not 5?
good point, i should buy it for my friends too
I don't know who's the bigger, irredeemable moron him for buying abandonware you could easily download anywhere else or you actually thinking EA would ever make another C&C RTS. Either way you both make the Youtube comment section look profound by comparison.
If your game can get dumpstered by a handful of games that are decades old, maybe your game is just not that good after all.
Why do americans think they're entitled sales?
what the frick does being a woman have to do with anything
entitlement
if it's any consolation I don't think this game would have seen much success anyway
The reason her marketing is ruined is her, not EA. She is INSECURE and AFRAID.
If her game is good it will do well, and if it doesn't then you move on anyway. Leave all in the hands of God. Don't play the woman card immediately either
>If her game is good it will do well
Not always, sometimes good games get lost in an oversaturated market
But it's still there on the page, and there seems to be enough awareness for it to do well or badly on its own merits
Buy an ad dumb prostitute
What has this got to do with having a moist hole between your legs though?
she wants simp and chud money same time.
fricking prostitute.
There can't be that many people who scroll down the steam shop list to look for random games can there? Really doubt this is going to affect the sales of their game.
I do it regularly. I'm a gamer, which means I keep up to date with my hobby. You don't just wait around to be told by other people what games to play.
Your enabling these gays, seeing every shitty piece of shovel ware released and God forbid buying it just because it's on top of some list is not 'Keeping up to date' with your hobby. That would be going back and playing any cult classics or games you missed out on that are actually good and worth discovering, but let me guess you played them all right?
I do to find porn games to pirate
The funny thing is she's claiming there was built-up marketing and momentum but she still relied on the Steam equivalent of dumpster diving to find her game.
10 years?
Looks like a free h-game.
She should have made it one, those sell a lot better.
Fricking hate it when characters clash with the background like that. Same thing kept me away from Palworld: stylistic consistency should be a basic guarantee
Looks like those education CD-rom games that we had in school 20 years ago.
Holy shit that is one killer lineup of classics from EA. Did they put in some effort to make the games run on modern windows without having to install any community patches and shit like that? If so I know what I'll be playing next week.
>Did they put in some effort to make the games run on modern windows without having to install any community patches and shit like that?
Nope, it's the same versions they already have on Origin, they just put them on Steam.
Sim City 3000 has been on gog for a while and the extremely fast edge scrolling makes it basically unplayable
I have no faith that the steam version will be any better
That potions game is literally the epitomy if indie garbage, it's not even funny also the devs a troony.
>marketing and momentum
unironic who???
looks like another one of those women who slept their way through getting some coverage in "games journalism" magazines and thought that would be enough to make her video game successful.
should have created onlyfans instead of games.
>#HappyInternationalWomensDay
>about how I am creating space for women in the game industry
holy shit, if the most interesting thing about your game (by your own reckoning) is that it was made by a woman, then I have less than zero interest in it and quite frankly it deserves to fail
HAHAHAHA WOW. Nobody fricking reads gaming mags anymore, no wonder her game got buried. What a moron.
even if someone still read magazines, they'd be like "aww that's nice, good for her" and forget her existence like 5 minutes later.
Who the frick reads magazines anymore? No wonder no one heard of her.
Dr. Pavel..
If I re-release all my old strategy games would you die?
boo fricking hoo
so was everyone else during that time
maybe don't piss off the bogdanoffs next time
New marketing strategy unlocked:
release ten games at once, and the top ten list is all you! get with the times, woman
from the small pic i can see
looks like shit that shouldn't even exists
I could buy SC3K or I could buy a USB DVD drive to rip an ISO of my CD... decisions.
>Sim City 3000
I will see you homies in about a week.
I've played the first six missions of red alert two like twenty times but I can never beat the boat mission
Is it any good? I like supporting indie devs but I don't buy straight trash games.
Good riddance.
>Trailer has no gameplay at the start
>Game animations are very stiff
How was it 10 years
This guy gets it.
I actually checked the trailer yesterday, on the new releases tab.
I found that the reused 3 frame potion tossing animation used for 4 or 5 other actions was a bit cheap. It also looks kinda bad and really clashes with the background, in a bad way. I love 3d environment+2d character sprites, but this game don't do it right. It's your main character, dammit, do it some justice.
Looks like utter shit and I'd never buy a game made by a >hole
also 17bux WTF
there are thousands of better games for cheaper than that
she's not wrong, this long ass list of shadow drops should be condensed into one entry in the popular new releases tab.
so what does this teach you?
release 20 games at the same time so , something sells
i would produce games at a quicker pace and try to not get emotionally invested in what effectively is gambling
Thanks to that tweet I now know I can play C&C General again
Maybe don't spend 10 years working on a single game?
This tweet got 20K likes, but her game is still sitting at 39 reviews. Even being generous that's like less than 10K sold copies. That's pretty hilarious.
still more than little town hero
Indie games like that sell really little. It's a non high quality adventure game by an amateur. It look good on a resume, but this is not a seller game.
My point was more focused on that even with all that sympathy she got from gay indie devs on Twitter, the vast majority of those people still didn't buy her game.
>This tweet got 20K likes,
hate the twitter pity meta. literally just cry on twitter that your game isnt getting enough attention and pretend its unfair, and it becomes free marketing.
no idea what makes their game so special compared to other games that also got released at the same time with just as much marketing (none)
The game is also promoted by the Women Day sale. But even there, it's buried under better games made by women.
Like this Golf Deckbuilding Roguelike somehow? Shit look fun.
GolfcrystalE?
Golfie. But it seem associated with the Yogcast, which is less good.
I like how the game is so uninspired that that Magic Inn game looks like it has the exact same Main character
these people have too much main character syndrome to think about those other games. they'll just write them off as cheap asset flips and cashgrabs so they can keep their pity party going
10k copies is a lot.
That's a very rough estimate, mind you. Looking at those live stats it's most likely much lower.
10.000*20*.7 at least because Steam cut, and then American plus local taxes on top.
10k * 20 = $200 000.
Frick me, I should become a game dev.
She sold less than 120 copies.
Statistically, only 4% of game owners write a Steam review.
So, she sold more than 1k.
I'm going with the played numbers.
https://steamcharts.com/app/378690
Maybe if only 10% of people bought the game but didnt play it?
So you think that everyone who buys a game all plays it for 24 hours straight?
No, but if you play the game 30 min, the counter would go up since it's updated every hour.
I see. This is why Palworld had all 20 million people playing at once.
No. But it had 2 million at once. Which is 10% of the bought base. But Palworld was played for several weeks.
This game probably has a 40-60% bought/playing ratio since it came out yesterday. People would log in on Steam, buy the game and play it right there. Not wait for weeks to boot it up.
>This game probably has a 40-60% bought/playing ratio
No. No it didn't. Unless of course this game was somehow unique among every single other game on Steam.
Then prove me otherwise? 102 day peak, the launch day, with 41 reviews and currently 59 playing.
Tell me how this game sold 20 000 copies and how you know this.
At best, I could say 1000.
No one ever said the game sold 20k copies. Everyone but you have been saying the game sold a bit over 1k copies.
Literally responded to the guy who said 10 000 and made 200 000$.
Only you are saying that. I think it probably sold like a few hundred at most so far because it has a targeted audience of white knights and whiny b***hes who feel a need to prove a point, so anyone who gave a shit probably also played it and gave a review just to further promote.
You underestimate what a big discrepancy there is between "clicked on the like button on twitter" and "went out of their way to spend 15 bucks for some shitty flash game".
it's unique in that it looks like shit but a woman is crying her game didn't sell so people will buy it to make her feel better
>so people will buy it to make her feel better
They haven't though.
I heard it was somewhere around 1 in 20 owners, so that sounds about right
now remove 30% for Steam and 70% of what's left after taxes.
Congratulations, you made 40K!
That depends on where you live, if you live in commiefornia then yeah, you will barely make 40K after taxes but in normal states, you will roughly get 50% of your earnings after taxes + steam cut, so, 100K which is still good.
>which is still good.
No. Just no.
Here in Shitaly enterprises and professionals have to pay 70-80% taxes. And if you're a worker and make more than 50K you pay 43%. Even the lower brackets are like 30%.
It's ridicuous. The government should not take more than a 10% cut.
>70-80% taxes
Professionals aren't taxed separately from employees, and even in the worst case scenario (giga-CEO getting paid exclusively in shares) the max taxation is well below 60%.
Also tax brackets are on taxable income, not net income, you cah shave off a lot just by having a pension fund as that's leveraged 1 to 1.
Why are you lying, terrone?
Professionals as in people that are not employed, moron.
>the max taxation is well below 60%.
You know what is "well below" 60%? 10%.
>Also tax brackets are on taxable income, not net income
Okay? Never pretended otherwise. You're still taxed over 40% for everything over 50k.
>you cah shave off a lot just by having a pension fund as that's leveraged 1 to 1.
I don't wanna get through hoops not to get robbed by the state. I want to be free to do what I want with my money without the state taking it away from me under the threat of violence.
>Why are you lying, terrone?
About what?
Are you okay, Piddino? You seem mad about someone disliking the cesspool that is Shitaly.
I know what I said, taxation on personal income makes no distinction for self-employment.
Also why are you kvetching about the 50k bracket when you live on gibs?
Because the lowest bracket is 23%. That is 23% too much for the state of Shitaly.
Got any real argument or are you just malding?
>mogged by Command & Conquer spam
absolutely based
Has there ever been a game that released that was actually really good but due to no advertising and being bumped out of steams top chart quickly, it went unnoticed and sold poorly?
I can't think of one example.
This makes her argument moot.
Her game would've not sold any copies even if EA didn't spam a bunch of titles onto the store.
Split Second
SOVL
So glad devs are keeping the flash game genre alive.
>10 years for this
this isn't even a tech demo, this looks like some quick jank made for uni assignment
>$5 worth of production values
>$20 price tag
Every damn time.
whats with the aiming preview 24 seconds in? its just a transparent blue rectangle that has an outline (for some reason), literal newgrounds tier
>she's into swarthy chads
brown bros, do you ever get tired of being the most desirable commodity for the female race?
>female
>muscular man
I bet she doesn't have any attractive women in there
other than her self-insert that is obviously more attractive than she is in real life
She cute. And she has other cute females too.
What the hell
>indie shit expecting to compete OR FRICKING WIN against C&C
>Spends 10 years on a game only to rely on Steam's "New" tab for marketing.
You had 10 years to think of ways to give your project some traction and that was the endgame?
Sucks for her but theres like 50 game releases on Steam daily, so it didn't necessarily have to be EA drowning her listing with 11 random re-releases.
Either way her game looks like it was spit out of RPG maker
>Red Alert 2
I remember the game having issues during some effects like explosions, where the game would slow down to a crawl if your CPU was somewhat modern, did they fix it on this re-release or would I still have to do it myself?
Gentlemen, start your engines
Dungeon keeper for $2? based
some bawds game for $17 pulling the 'woman' card? cringe
Ok, I'm sorry but this 1000% feels like a porn game
dude doesnt even look like the same character
jesus christ
>the hammock having a different artstyle from the rest of the background
>the anime chick done in a completely different style from the npc
>the key art for the npc looking so different it might as well be a different person
Good God, the more I look at it the worse it gets.
>the hand in the back is literally just the left hand but flipped
... that's not how perspective works
Yuri time!?
>this thread will hate so much on the game that it will drive up sales
If Dokidoki Litterature club can have /vg/ threads for 7 years, I'm sure this game can have a couple.
DDLC has shock value
this game has SCHLOCK value
DDLC threads are not about the shock value, it's about the Waifu kawaii tbh ne
Post the kawaii tbh ne waifus of this game, then
Ok this is a cute C&H reference
The game is growing on me
The whole game seem to be a reference fest of stuff she likes. Every dialogue is an Easter Egg for other stuff. I'm sure it's not a bad game. Hell, I played an Anon game that was way worse than this game, and even bad games are fun once you get in the mindset that it's made by one person.
It feels very one-man-band, or I guess one-woman in this case.
If she wanted it to sell though it should have been a porn game, the entire interface really feels like one, the game is fine, the crafting system is very run of the mill. If it was a porn game I think it would have sold at least 1000 copies.
It feels like a one-woman game where said woman spent more time talking about she feels as a female game developer and providing a "space" for other female developers than on actually developing the game.
Remember, this is a game 10 years in the making. It took 10 years for her to come up with "deep dark forest" and "old haven" for location names.
Talking of Women games. Found this Cat Sudoku game. If you like Sudoku and Cats, go for it.
>relying on free advertising from steam pages
If you do this, you are moronic
>Only people who bought this game are Ganker users
What a sad state of affairs.
at the end of the day, femcels and incels get along.
It's the happy ending, anon.
Hmmm
merely coincidence
>Happyinternationalwomensday
Question: what does your game releasing at an unfortunate moment have to do with international women's day?
Who uses new and trending? I use the thing that lists 10 games in a row. I like that to try out new games.
hey cool, Backpack Battles is out!!!
OH SHIT, I forgot that was today. Aw yiss boi.
Flashgames from newgrounds is being released on Steam now?
Hey that shit is fun as frick and addictive. Go try the demo.
Feel bad, it's not even out, they went "early access"
Make a better game
>Command & Conquer Collection for $10
Damn, thanks.
Whats the best play order?
.
Release order, naturally.
To think that in another universe where the CnC release didn't happen, Duelists of Eden would have surely been a sleeper hit taking the gaming world by storm.
Looks like weg without the weg.
>but she'll still support tankie politicians that give free money to these corpos
she deserves to be dunked on
leftists, tankies, and other subhumans deserve everything bad that happens to them
I'd buy C&C Generals over whatever trash this is in a heartbeat
Anyone has ever scrolled "new releases"?
Who does that?
Well I've reached the end of my journey in the Demo.
It's not a bad game at all, and the MC is apparently 12 if anyone wants to alert the C-team, but it isn't really a good game either.
It's passable, but in the current market that just isn't good enough.
Final score, 4/10
That sucks for her, but she isn't entitled to be on the "New and trending" page. That's not your right.
>a woman tries to be game dev
you will never be Nemlei
I don't see any garbage bags
That's rude, Jean-Luc. They preferred to be called muslims.
why does every butthole with a game seem to go to gdc? shouldn't it be for actual successful devs? why would anyone want to hear from some talentless hack?
We all know what you need to do to truly sell a potion game.
oh shit, Red Alert 2 on Steam
That's kinda sad.
I want to become an indie dev but shit like that and videos like this:
make me abandon the idea altogether. This dude made a generally good-looking and fun-to-play game and he only sold 25 copies.
How's about just making a game because you want to and not because of the money.
It's like saying why shitpost on Ganker if no one gives you (you)s
And who will pay the bills? I'm not a kid anymore, I have a job and rent to pay. I can't put my time into something that will eventually starve me to death.
>but it's just a hobby
It's not really, the game development takes time, energy, and resources or you will never finish the game. It's not the same as watching movies or reading books.
You can still make games and work, dumbass.
Even putting one hour a day for your game will get it finished sooner or later.
Stop making excuses.
I need 2d/3d design skills and composing skills.
It takes months to learn just the basics.
There is no way, I will finish a game in my lifetime with just 1 hour of work a day.
If you go with that attitude then there is no hope. People made entire different genres of games from mods for which they had 0 financial incentive.
Because indie devs like him are the equivalent of dude who sings with a guitar in the middle of the street.
Every form of entertainment has shit, there's even streamers who have all the professional setup and shit and they keep playing for 0 people
thats probably cause he didnt fricking market. why are indie devs so allergic to marketing their fricking game? good god its easier than ever these days
>good god its easier than ever these days
That's the reason why. Everyone does marketing and shit to the point nobody cares unless you have the really big marketing budgets to overwhelm or you just hit the viral jackpot.
If I saw a commercial of this game on any social media, I would just immediately scroll before I even learned how it's called
He's trying to sell one and five dollar games for ten bucks.
>but my game failed
it's almost as if you are dealing with a saturated market and you fail to market your shit you are going to sell like shit
>women has non-ideal outcome
>RALLY THE TROOPS WE'RE SO SORRY WE'RE SO SORRY
What a Black personlicious thread
Good, if your game can only stand out by being the 'new flavor of the minute'
>10 years of work
>Marketing campaign consists of hoping it stays on front page of the 'new games'
Fricking kek, there now resorting to the marketing stategy of whining on twitter and playing victim to the big evil corp
>10 years
>looks like a 100hrs low energy build
love when women exaggerate and lose all form of credibility in an instant
Thanks for letting me know all those kino games are on Steam now, hoe
Thanks for letting us know about C&C. I've been looking for a copy of generals since I ditched my optical drives 2 decades ago.
I will now continue to ignore your unityslop.
I'd rather play command and conquer.
Based EA
Does shit like this even matter? If a game is good people will know. Plus Steam store has a filter right? Is it possible to check 1 box and filter out all EA games or not? I know it works for tags/genres so maybe that guy's game is already ignored or higher up on the list for different people.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMM6Jvhdf/
the only marketing this game got was apparently some clips on tiktok, and the comments are shitting on it. no wonder this game flopped.
>years of marketing
I've never heard of that game and I spend like 20% of my time in the indie game echo chambers. She might be a bit hyperbolic here.
>years of marketing
>Never heard of it
It wasn't gonna work out anyway.