Vin Diesel took them all but is doing jack shit as of right now, he's too focused on getting more roles for both DC and Marvel to reactivate his own game studio
>I didn't know those dudes made Payday
They didn't, Overkill made PD1 and 2, then the company got bought out by Starbreeze back when PD2 still had updates coming out and they removed the Overkill name and merged it into Starbreeze. But "that" Starbreeze has none of the devs left who made Riddick either.
Payday 2's case is curious because the people they staffed are Swedish, at worst there's a woman or an arab or two among the ranks but they seem to have just forgotten how to make a game overnight when developing 3
That still doesn't change the fact that there's people on Ganker who unironically believe that the state of triple A gaming is the fault of everyone else but their preferred race
Thank you for keeping Payday 3's failure on page 1, I know it's hard for you to make such stupid posts on purpose but be assured that your efforts are not in vain
There isn't a single competent Western AAA dev studio on Earth. Even some AA studios are struggling with the competency crisis. Your only options for good games are a) old games, b) Japanese games, c) indie games, or d) some combination of the aforementioned.
2024 has had dogshit. By this time in 2023 we had Hi-Fi Rush, Pizza Tower, Metroid Prime Remastered, and Octopath Travelers II, all of which were better than everything we've gotten in 2024 thus far. If you want to count the above average titles too, you've got Fire Emblem Engage, RE4 Remake, Hogwart's Legacy, and Atomic Heart. Again, all by this time last year.
It turns out when you actually manage to run a GAAS for a decade your sequel is fricking doomed because there's no way you could ever hope to match the amount of content in any reasonable amount of time
Its going to be really funny watching the domino effect when more devs try GAAS sequels
The technology to make good games has been lost to time. >You WILL push the latest graphical enhancements even though it's not even running on the latest customer hardware >You WILL promise a lack of MTX on launch then add them in after so you technically TECHNICALLY didn't lie >You WILL forge a gameplay loop that does the absolute bare minimum to keep the player engaged so that they get brainwashed and remain blind to the game's numerous faults >And you WILL like it
Fortunately, Starbreeze is comically inept so it ended up hooking in no one. You don't lose 99% of players in just a couple months by being proficient at your craft, after all.
Games as a Service shit means that a game will get more updates the longer it goes in theory however the payday-devs now wanted more money which means another game is in order, issues is that releasing sequels to games usually meant that you were getting an upgrade from the previous games
Now the devs just noticed they can't just started the whole dripfeed bullshit since the gamers WON'T start giving them money for the same game with less content hopefully
This is something new devs will have to dealt with since the ServiceGames model isn't a good thing when you are gonna release sequels which has even less crap to do than the previous games with 10 years+ updates
remember yes manning every highschool project because you don't ACTUALLY want to put in effort with a group of strangers if your teacher paired you with them? "yea sure lets do this (i dont give a frick honestly)"
The idea is shit
The game is shit
The future plan is shit
They got what they deserved
In case you arent aware how much money these morons straight up burned instead of investing it into pd3 its a good laugh
>Mismanaged failing business >Somehow makes tons of money with PD2 >Same mismanaging autist burns it all
They should have shot the homosexual the second money came in
What reasons are there aside from the lack of content that have people shitting on PD3 so much?
I also heard that there isn't an open lobby system like there was in PD2 and that you have to search an individual heist+difficulty and hope that someone is hosting it. MHRise had the same problem (alongside region locking) and that was my biggest complaint about the game
I think what most people thought we were getting was payday 2 but leaning more into the fast paced action after switching to a less fricking garbage engine that could let the game's concept get closer to its full potential and what we got was 10 second passive buff simulator
all the improvements to make lockpicking, casing/stealth, etc less boring and shit fall flat when the skills are rather milquetoast and progression went all in on the annoying achievement hunting gimmick
general ui and qol issues that have no right to exist in the third installment of the series they've had going for over a decade doesn't help either
No offline, little content, overpriced dlc, progression and other systems generally considered worse than 2's, having a cheaper and better alternative out there, slow on the updates, knowing that a lot of worse decisions came from the higher ups and not the devs, complains about ui are there too, worse social features than 2
all the mistakes probably came from the devs and the ceo actually was probably one who said nothing at all. the game is incongruous so you'll load up in the game and forget what a horrid menu you just had to navigate a moment before it. the slowness of updates is actually a sign that there must be no communication to the higher ups and each team works completely independent with lack of direction
The fact that people discovered CrimeNet and Play Solo (Offline) was discovered as being in the game files was pretty damning
Also the fact they started to sell the pre-order bonus exclusive stuff about one month after the game released
Maybe the fact Payday 2 had more variety and content on release and also got updated with a new heist every month during its first year of life, whereas Payday 3 has very similar heists with the same objectives and less overall variety
For me it's the fact they didn't include the Locomotive 12G shotgun, which was basically one of the weapon mascots of the game and they somehow "forgot" to include it, obviously to sell it back to you later
The servers being shitty didn't help, and the fact the first DLC pack is called "Syntax Error" is icing on the cake
Also the DLC is broken down into multiple pieces, back in Payday 2 you'd get new weapons, new heists, new masks, new materials, new attachments, sometimes new heisters + decks, in a single main DLC pack
Instead each main DLC is just broken down into multiple pieces, selling you everything individually now, which is pretty scummy, sure you can only buy the "good" stuff, but that's not the point, less ain't more in this case
Oh and they tried to release a few extra heists but they were just OG heists from Payday 2 but much worse with the new mechanics and samey gameplay from the 3
Also the gameplay is kinda fricked and not in a good way, with the shitty Rush / Edge / Grit system acting like temporary power ups instead of just passive skills you can mix and match to make an interesting build
Also XP is tied to challenges, including challenges which want you to beat a map 300 times and then 300 more times in stealth or whatever, which is mind numbingly moronic and pretty much only exists to sell DLC (new heists = easy, low level challenges = level up faster / easier compared to grinding another challenge from I through to X
It's just bad man
>No loco >no bronco but we get sangres' pistol (Castigo .44s) but we don't even get sangres >Chimano renamed to Stryk (yes i'm aware of the full auto chimano being called stryk in pd2 too, but the chimano was the strating pistol in both PDTH and PD2) >no Bernetti 9 >Crosskill renamed
It's like they wanted to distance themselves from PD2 so hard, save for the 4 main characters
It's unplayable.
Not in a figurative sense. It's literally unplayable as in you cannot play it. It has been since release.
In order to start a game you have to pick a heist and difficulty. Seems alright so far, right? It's not. There were 8 heists and 3 difficulties. That's 24 queues and you have to guess which one is populated right now in order to play. Even right after the release at best you had to wait 5-10 minutes to populate a lobby. Nowadays, with 500 online you won't be able to play with anyone.
Not even PISS, SHIT and CUM or crappy armor changes made the game bleed players as much as lack of server browser.
This game was impossible to play like 4 times over
They really did absolutely everything wrong
Theres no way any sensible amount of planning went into this launch
God the shilltuber squad tried really hard to damage control but they couldn't
"UHh we're not paid by Overkill btw!! We just got first class plane tickets for sweden because they uhh value our opinion as content creators and payday veterans!!"
and he said the same shit about Starfield , him and Gmanlives are both fricking Hacks that will throw away honesty the moment a big studio give them cash
and he said the same shit about Starfield , him and Gmanlives are both fricking Hacks that will throw away honesty the moment a big studio give them cash
Both of these "influencers" are about as smart as pig shit. It amazes me how the absolute vast majority of youtube scum still even has a viewcount on new uploads. You'd think people would get tired of seeing a drone that doesn't have his own opinions just disgorge what he was told to read off an e-mail.
Every single "influencer" who claimed Payday 3 was a good game was paid
You can strike them off as having integrity
Their word means nothing now
God the shilltuber squad tried really hard to damage control but they couldn't
"UHh we're not paid by Overkill btw!! We just got first class plane tickets for sweden because they uhh value our opinion as content creators and payday veterans!!"
you know it's bad when marioinatophat, the dumb youtube poop channel, went out of his way to make a "what the frick happened" video essay
It is firmly fricking over when theknowley, a "lore" youtuber and hired shill for OVK/Starbreeze, turns around and endorses Helldivers for being the best co-op shooter on the market.
>people are using armor too much and never medic bags or first aid kits how do we fix that? >lets just turn medic bags and first aid kits into armor as well
not to mention heavier armors reduced the amount of downs as well as slowing your movement speed
so heavy armors just went from bad to worse
mio is a fricking moron
Telltale took a few more Ls before its mismanagement and sloppy game library got it killed. Starbreeze is in that hard decline but not in the dumpster of history JUST yet.
Don't forget their Starbreeze VR cafe or whatever they were working on, opening their first in Dubai or some shit
Not to mention the Starbreeze VR goggles themselves which they shilled in Payday 2
it all failed
Then one of the main CEOs got busted and went on the run for insider trading
They got given like $50m to make Payday 3 from whatever shitty investor group picked up their sorry carcass
Seems that's going well for them, those guys planned for at least 500% profits based on how well Payday 2
One huge scam I tell you
>500% profits
Payday 3 was never going to sell $250,000,000 in game copies. That's fricking insulting, that investor group was lied to something fierce
I think it was over a loooooong time milking people for money during the skinner box ten year period
I can see them wanting hype to recoup their initial investment though
Starbreeze reported that Payday franchise passed 300m in revenue last year, 250m for PD3 alone was optimistic but not unachievable if it wasn't the disaster we got
On that note, has starbreeze ever told us why they decided to AI generate a game from scratch and the AI had no algorithms or reference training whatsoever? Quite the wild development choice for PD3
Payday 3 launch would have been pathetically bad even without the server issues. There's nothing to do in the game. One night of play and you've seen all it has to offer.
Game doesn't even have that much randomisation (which is another thing Payday 2 started not giving a frick about over time)
And this time restarting didn't even re-randomise the game so the meta strat was to just rush to learn keycodes and then just skip all of the objectives involving it
They go back to making content for PAYDAY 2, pretend it never happened, and the cycle will repeat.
funniest shit is that they revived the developement for Raid ww2 with 3 peoples working on it
Payday 2 wasn't good either
I actually hope this. PD2's still fricking lit.
I hope not, last thing I need are these clowns breaking mods
>Starbreeze Studios
Wow I didn't know those dudes made Payday
I want to go back to the Chronicles of Riddick times
They were actually involved in the demo scene before that. They wrote FastTracker 2, which at the time was a very popular tracker.
> They wrote FastTracker 2
I remember that, but it must have been like 30 years ago, impressive to stick together that long
Didnt all the riddick ppl leave after the first game? Still waiting for riddick 3
Vin Diesel took them all but is doing jack shit as of right now, he's too focused on getting more roles for both DC and Marvel to reactivate his own game studio
>I didn't know those dudes made Payday
They didn't, Overkill made PD1 and 2, then the company got bought out by Starbreeze back when PD2 still had updates coming out and they removed the Overkill name and merged it into Starbreeze. But "that" Starbreeze has none of the devs left who made Riddick either.
Why are modern studio incapable of making a decent game anymore?
Assembly-line devs from shithole scam colleges. Add in some good 'ole ideological degeneracy and bam! you've got the modern AAA videogame industry
Greedy boomers in suits and green haired trans racial non binary gay women.
Payday 2's case is curious because the people they staffed are Swedish, at worst there's a woman or an arab or two among the ranks but they seem to have just forgotten how to make a game overnight when developing 3
>Le white people aren't.... perfect and are as capable of doing shit game as everyone else????? this is such a curious case!
have a nice day
you only made this post to keep the thread bumped, and to that I say thank you for your service
That still doesn't change the fact that there's people on Ganker who unironically believe that the state of triple A gaming is the fault of everyone else but their preferred race
Thank you for keeping Payday 3's failure on page 1, I know it's hard for you to make such stupid posts on purpose but be assured that your efforts are not in vain
There isn't a single competent Western AAA dev studio on Earth. Even some AA studios are struggling with the competency crisis. Your only options for good games are a) old games, b) Japanese games, c) indie games, or d) some combination of the aforementioned.
2024 had plenty of more-than-decent games already.
Palworld, Helldivers II, and uh...?
>Palworld
>more than decent
You can unmoron the joke is over
>REVENGE
It's an early access game with limited content. It succeeded but theres only so much to do for now.
>It's only 8th
It's fricking over palbros.....
No worries
My friends say Unicorn Overlord is great. They are playing it on PC. I agree with Helldivers and Palworld.
2024 has had dogshit. By this time in 2023 we had Hi-Fi Rush, Pizza Tower, Metroid Prime Remastered, and Octopath Travelers II, all of which were better than everything we've gotten in 2024 thus far. If you want to count the above average titles too, you've got Fire Emblem Engage, RE4 Remake, Hogwart's Legacy, and Atomic Heart. Again, all by this time last year.
Hogsharts Legacy and Atomic Fart are garbage tier. Don't include those.
Fire Emblem was garbage, don't include it
No it fricking hasn't.
It turns out when you actually manage to run a GAAS for a decade your sequel is fricking doomed because there's no way you could ever hope to match the amount of content in any reasonable amount of time
Its going to be really funny watching the domino effect when more devs try GAAS sequels
I was hoping for bankruptcy honestly
The technology to make good games has been lost to time.
>You WILL push the latest graphical enhancements even though it's not even running on the latest customer hardware
>You WILL promise a lack of MTX on launch then add them in after so you technically TECHNICALLY didn't lie
>You WILL forge a gameplay loop that does the absolute bare minimum to keep the player engaged so that they get brainwashed and remain blind to the game's numerous faults
>And you WILL like it
Fortunately, Starbreeze is comically inept so it ended up hooking in no one. You don't lose 99% of players in just a couple months by being proficient at your craft, after all.
Games as a Service shit means that a game will get more updates the longer it goes in theory however the payday-devs now wanted more money which means another game is in order, issues is that releasing sequels to games usually meant that you were getting an upgrade from the previous games
Now the devs just noticed they can't just started the whole dripfeed bullshit since the gamers WON'T start giving them money for the same game with less content hopefully
This is something new devs will have to dealt with since the ServiceGames model isn't a good thing when you are gonna release sequels which has even less crap to do than the previous games with 10 years+ updates
pic unrelated
jesus frick soap operas truly are the western manga
Outsourcing to India and the Cyberpunk/No Man's Sky effect
remember yes manning every highschool project because you don't ACTUALLY want to put in effort with a group of strangers if your teacher paired you with them? "yea sure lets do this (i dont give a frick honestly)"
Going bankrupt
The idea is shit
The game is shit
The future plan is shit
They got what they deserved
In case you arent aware how much money these morons straight up burned instead of investing it into pd3 its a good laugh
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100%
Lmfao, i watched the video. Are these guys actually clinically moronic? How can you waste so much money again and again?
>Mismanaged failing business
>Somehow makes tons of money with PD2
>Same mismanaging autist burns it all
They should have shot the homosexual the second money came in
Total CEO Death
How the frick do you release a game with less online group features than fricking Splatoon.
What reasons are there aside from the lack of content that have people shitting on PD3 so much?
I also heard that there isn't an open lobby system like there was in PD2 and that you have to search an individual heist+difficulty and hope that someone is hosting it. MHRise had the same problem (alongside region locking) and that was my biggest complaint about the game
I think what most people thought we were getting was payday 2 but leaning more into the fast paced action after switching to a less fricking garbage engine that could let the game's concept get closer to its full potential and what we got was 10 second passive buff simulator
all the improvements to make lockpicking, casing/stealth, etc less boring and shit fall flat when the skills are rather milquetoast and progression went all in on the annoying achievement hunting gimmick
general ui and qol issues that have no right to exist in the third installment of the series they've had going for over a decade doesn't help either
No offline, little content, overpriced dlc, progression and other systems generally considered worse than 2's, having a cheaper and better alternative out there, slow on the updates, knowing that a lot of worse decisions came from the higher ups and not the devs, complains about ui are there too, worse social features than 2
all the mistakes probably came from the devs and the ceo actually was probably one who said nothing at all. the game is incongruous so you'll load up in the game and forget what a horrid menu you just had to navigate a moment before it. the slowness of updates is actually a sign that there must be no communication to the higher ups and each team works completely independent with lack of direction
The fact that people discovered CrimeNet and Play Solo (Offline) was discovered as being in the game files was pretty damning
Also the fact they started to sell the pre-order bonus exclusive stuff about one month after the game released
Maybe the fact Payday 2 had more variety and content on release and also got updated with a new heist every month during its first year of life, whereas Payday 3 has very similar heists with the same objectives and less overall variety
For me it's the fact they didn't include the Locomotive 12G shotgun, which was basically one of the weapon mascots of the game and they somehow "forgot" to include it, obviously to sell it back to you later
The servers being shitty didn't help, and the fact the first DLC pack is called "Syntax Error" is icing on the cake
Also the DLC is broken down into multiple pieces, back in Payday 2 you'd get new weapons, new heists, new masks, new materials, new attachments, sometimes new heisters + decks, in a single main DLC pack
Instead each main DLC is just broken down into multiple pieces, selling you everything individually now, which is pretty scummy, sure you can only buy the "good" stuff, but that's not the point, less ain't more in this case
Oh and they tried to release a few extra heists but they were just OG heists from Payday 2 but much worse with the new mechanics and samey gameplay from the 3
Also the gameplay is kinda fricked and not in a good way, with the shitty Rush / Edge / Grit system acting like temporary power ups instead of just passive skills you can mix and match to make an interesting build
Also XP is tied to challenges, including challenges which want you to beat a map 300 times and then 300 more times in stealth or whatever, which is mind numbingly moronic and pretty much only exists to sell DLC (new heists = easy, low level challenges = level up faster / easier compared to grinding another challenge from I through to X
It's just bad man
>No loco
>no bronco but we get sangres' pistol (Castigo .44s) but we don't even get sangres
>Chimano renamed to Stryk (yes i'm aware of the full auto chimano being called stryk in pd2 too, but the chimano was the strating pistol in both PDTH and PD2)
>no Bernetti 9
>Crosskill renamed
It's like they wanted to distance themselves from PD2 so hard, save for the 4 main characters
It's unplayable.
Not in a figurative sense. It's literally unplayable as in you cannot play it. It has been since release.
In order to start a game you have to pick a heist and difficulty. Seems alright so far, right? It's not. There were 8 heists and 3 difficulties. That's 24 queues and you have to guess which one is populated right now in order to play. Even right after the release at best you had to wait 5-10 minutes to populate a lobby. Nowadays, with 500 online you won't be able to play with anyone.
Not even PISS, SHIT and CUM or crappy armor changes made the game bleed players as much as lack of server browser.
>There were 8 heists and 3 difficulties. That's 24 queues
This is incredibly moronic. Surely someone at the company thought about this.
This game was impossible to play like 4 times over
They really did absolutely everything wrong
Theres no way any sensible amount of planning went into this launch
The music is pretty awful
no fricking point in playing it when with gayday 2 you get 30 times more content for like $2 even without DLC
>3 dollar game for 25 dollar game
Don't forget the $100 in DLC basically required to play it now.
have they finally patched being able to easily pirate every dlc for free?
Nope, you can still unlock all of the DLCs with a simple Lua script.
the best part is that payday 2 with it's full DLC packs is currently stitting at around 40$, so you can just ignore PD3 and slam the entirety of PD2
filing for insolvency
Rerelease PAYDAY2 with all DLC for PS5 with grafical upgrades and with ingame purchase for people that want to unlock everything at the start.
What happened? /ourguy/ Act Man got flown out to promote this game and he said it was fricking perfect.
Act man is not our guy. Frick off ACK man.
Influencers are PAID to talk positively about the game, anon. Don't be naive.
Every single "influencer" who claimed Payday 3 was a good game was paid
You can strike them off as having integrity
Their word means nothing now
God the shilltuber squad tried really hard to damage control but they couldn't
"UHh we're not paid by Overkill btw!! We just got first class plane tickets for sweden because they uhh value our opinion as content creators and payday veterans!!"
and he said the same shit about Starfield , him and Gmanlives are both fricking Hacks that will throw away honesty the moment a big studio give them cash
Gmanlives is not only a hack but has the personality and taste of a college drop out kid and never advanced. I can't wait for his inevitable fall
he screams massive manchild to me
Some youtubers said the same thing about cyberpunk and saints row after seeing them early pre-release, Youtuber can and will lie if paid.
Both of these "influencers" are about as smart as pig shit. It amazes me how the absolute vast majority of youtube scum still even has a viewcount on new uploads. You'd think people would get tired of seeing a drone that doesn't have his own opinions just disgorge what he was told to read off an e-mail.
This fricker has shown himself to be sjw-enabling shill, avoid him.
never trust an influencer, their job is literally to influence you to buy shit for corporate interests
that guy is a massive homosexual that just repeats whatever is trending back to the brainlets that watch his videos
you know it's bad when marioinatophat, the dumb youtube poop channel, went out of his way to make a "what the frick happened" video essay
It is firmly fricking over when theknowley, a "lore" youtuber and hired shill for OVK/Starbreeze, turns around and endorses Helldivers for being the best co-op shooter on the market.
>operation medic bag
>it's just adding basic features
>ACKKK man
>/ourgenderneutralperson/
The only youtubers I trust are the ones under 10k views, with a scuffed intro and with "no commentary" in the title
They keep fricking up PD2 now with updates as well.
It's truly over.
>Bain still in the game
Doomed to fail before it released
>>Bain still in the game
huh?
PAYDAY 4 LETS FRICKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Payday: The Heist is the only good Payday game.
I had fun with the early days of payday 2 release but yeah, i agree
Payday 2 was fun for the first year before the devs started nerfing all the fun strategies and churning out DLC
Just look at Starbreeze's stock
Doing it all over again in three years. But with DnD.
Company quite literally will not survive for this to happen
They are like an Electronic Arts but that doesn't make any money
liquidating the company, hopefully
wha- huh?
Steamcharts has been fricked for this game forever
Use steamdb or some shit
I figured, 347 players is way too many
Bankrupcy hopefully.
They got lucky with PD2 and have been trying to replicate it ever since with progressively worse 4 person co op games that die in a week.
The problem here is they can't exactly fall back on PD2 DLC this time.
So how long until Payday 3 is good?
When they'll fire the gay bara vtuber furry in charge of balancing
Payday 2 content
New blogpost
This looks like shit
>also adrenaline takes priority before armor
lmao
>people are using armor too much and never medic bags or first aid kits how do we fix that?
>lets just turn medic bags and first aid kits into armor as well
not to mention heavier armors reduced the amount of downs as well as slowing your movement speed
so heavy armors just went from bad to worse
mio is a fricking moron
insolvency
>Raid failed
>Walking Dead game failed
>Gayday 3 Failed
how many L's can you take before you die?
Telltale took a few more Ls before its mismanagement and sloppy game library got it killed. Starbreeze is in that hard decline but not in the dumpster of history JUST yet.
Don't forget their Starbreeze VR cafe or whatever they were working on, opening their first in Dubai or some shit
Not to mention the Starbreeze VR goggles themselves which they shilled in Payday 2
it all failed
Then one of the main CEOs got busted and went on the run for insider trading
They got given like $50m to make Payday 3 from whatever shitty investor group picked up their sorry carcass
Seems that's going well for them, those guys planned for at least 500% profits based on how well Payday 2
One huge scam I tell you
>500% profits
Payday 3 was never going to sell $250,000,000 in game copies. That's fricking insulting, that investor group was lied to something fierce
I think it was over a loooooong time milking people for money during the skinner box ten year period
I can see them wanting hype to recoup their initial investment though
PD3 has no chance of recovering honestly, Halo Infinite and 2042 had updates that "kind of" fixed issues but it didn't help them any
Starbreeze reported that Payday franchise passed 300m in revenue last year, 250m for PD3 alone was optimistic but not unachievable if it wasn't the disaster we got
On that note, has starbreeze ever told us why they decided to AI generate a game from scratch and the AI had no algorithms or reference training whatsoever? Quite the wild development choice for PD3
Whatever you say homosexual
Payday 3 launch would have been pathetically bad even without the server issues. There's nothing to do in the game. One night of play and you've seen all it has to offer.
Game doesn't even have that much randomisation (which is another thing Payday 2 started not giving a frick about over time)
And this time restarting didn't even re-randomise the game so the meta strat was to just rush to learn keycodes and then just skip all of the objectives involving it
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gaming is dead
not gaming as a whole, just those sloppy shitty releases that don't deserve shelf space.
Western shit was always the bottom of the barrel
Did they get Locke again at all or is it just the boring woman handler?
Valve is gonna release their own heists in CS2 and bury PAYDAY for good