only uncreative hacks like horror "creators" would do so
Disney made its fortune on making movies about public domain characters. Why is there this assumption that not only would "good" content not be created with public domain characters, but that it would be unprofitable?
The main issue with Mickey is that he's still a trademark and can't be used in a way that would imply endorsement by Disney, which is something they're going to be sue happy over. It's difficult for Mickey to be the main character or a major character even and for it to not appear like it's a Disney creation, from a legal standpoint
>Disney made its fortune on making movies about public domain characters. Why is there this assumption that not only would "good" content not be created with public domain characters, but that it would be unprofitable?
copyisraelites fear and seethe at the public domain because it makes them rabid that the public can experience copyright-free media. >The main issue with Mickey is that he's still a trademark
How is that an issue? As long as you don't try to pass your work off as being affiliated with Yidsney you should be fine.
Disney made a fortune because of Disney. The fricker was a visionary that worked his ass off his entire life and took big risks that paid off. Good luck finding a modern Disney.
>new fnaf mickey
as an autist for this shit willie's already been around the sphere with fnati (albiet for only one of the old builds since nobody liked the way puritysin were going with it considering they replaced the main threat while the remake had him as a bonus character) and oblitus casa had him as the main threat too.
I think I heard from a friend that there was a Nuclear Throne type game that uses public domain characters. They have guns and they shoot the frick out of some ninjas or some shit. I already forgot the name of the game though. Could probably look that up on Steam though.
This is so shit. I’d rather see a Cuphead style game made with love than low effort early access horror garbage shat out with zero effort. Like the Winnie the Pooh horror film. It’s just stupid. So fricking sick of the “thing for children but EVIL” trend.
Then stop buying it?
The Winnie the pooh film had a budget of 100k and made 5 mil. They don't make these because they want to shit on childhood (marvel and DC have that covered), they do it because
1. Horror films are cheap. Many a starting director got their start off making cheap horror
2. The public domain character creates a lot of buzz
3. Large return on investment. >why aren't they making a cuphead game?!
that would not be out before the end of the decade if they did. Might as well just wait for other versions of Mickey to enter the public domain at that point.
When did the development start? Because there are indie games that have been in active development for a decade or two and have not reached a full release.
>i've never seen such homosexuals making this long for a fricking indie
2-3 years for that (assuming it started a year ago)? that's not a long time at all zoomie
This post is old as frick but Mouse is relatively new. I remember it wasn't too long ago where they didn't even have level design, just a working view model with firing animations as a proof of concept.
Steamboat Willy
Sail up and down the river and visit the lonely housewives at each port. Just don't let your Captain know what you're up to when making your deliveries, and try not to get caught by your own clingy girlfriend or any of the husbands returning home early.
Only the Steamboat Willy version of Mickey is public domain so Disney can claim your game violates the copyrights if the Mickey Mouse in your game looks too similar to any of the ones that came after Steamboat Willy or has a character trait that was only introduced after it.
Nothing prevents anybody, so expect a lot. Most things will only be homages but anything more major will be games based around it or reskinning games. I expect a lot of skins
Some of the OG mickey with gloves is free domain now, it was more than just Steamboat Willy that went public.
Mickeys value as a character is so closely tied to being a Disney character that i'm not sure you can do much with him.
We'll probably get a few self-aware meta works about Mickey as a brand but not much else. If you need a generic somewhat cute character for your cartoon or game, why not just make one that you can own yourself?
Wait so am I allowed to use Steamboat willie and Mickey Mouse in my Florida comic now, on the signs and shit around Disney? Is the phrase ‘this Mickey Mouse bullshit’ now legal to use in a story?
I never understood these goddamn gloves as a child from non anglosaxon civilization. Not just your typical cartoony animals in clothes, but extra clothed animals, real creepy/uncanny shit for no sane reason
>I never understood these goddamn gloves as a child from non anglosaxon civilization. Not just your typical cartoony animals in clothes, but extra clothed animals, real creepy/uncanny shit for no sane reason
You just have autism, and cartoon animals as a trigger.
The gloves are a remnant of early 20th century shorts. Animators designed their characters with gloves so their hands would remain visible in dark environments. Once technicolor productions became more widespread, they evolved to yellow gloves, the no gloves at all.
>does he have to be in black and white too otherwise you get sued?
Technically no, but if you use the exact same colors disney chose then you will be sued. If you swapped the color of his clothes it should be fine.
Nothing. Copyright is a bullshit scam meant to protect this homosexual alone. Now hes out and the worst of the shit is a stupid horror film trying to capitalize on it.
Why the frick is this shit the duration of a human lifetime again?
About time honestly. All of this stuff needs to be released, so people who are passionate about those characters can retake them, and do something good with them, instead of them being the sole property of awful people who horde IPs the way dragons horde gold.
The people who currently own Batman didn't create Batman. They don't have any love for the character, or have any deep desire to carry that torch, and do right by his creators. It's all just "stuff" to them, and it's disgusting. It offends me.
The Batman stuff going public domain is the original run. Superman is mostly the same as his original run, but Batman's original run used guns and hated Chinese with being a detective first. Superman being public domain will hit warner bros more than anything.
It would be better than other forms of superman. Too many powers and contradictory media make it hard to manage, which is why superman games never turn out good.
Meanwhile, a single power is eady to manage and design around. Just look at Mario, all the guy could do in Donkey Kong was jump and sometimes grab hammers, and even in Super Mario bros, jumping is still his defining feature. Limits bears creativity
I can agree with this.
Superman has those seemingly random powers because that's what they are, when they started doing that his super power was literally having any super power so that he could effortlessly beat any foe, that's why his laundry list of super powers is such a fricking random, incoherent mess.
Super strength can do a lot, but there's only so many problems that can be solved with a hammer.
This is why batman is still popular despite having no super power while super man is impossible to take seriously.
>so people who are passionate about those characters can retake them
Delusional. It's going to be maybe one or two people doing actually good stuff but it'll be buried among the 3000 trash works made by morons trying to get a quick buck
I've seen 2 or 3 episodes of The Looney Tunes Show and dear God, it was the most stale, unfunny and boring cartoon I ever seen.
Even the fricking Cramp Twins I watched as a kid were better than nu-Looney Tunes.
genuinely this could be the funniest shit ever if they went full slapstick with it. like a cartoon character doing his stupid cartoon shit on human beings that react realistically to being squashed flat with a fricking anvil could be one of the greatest horror movies ever made but we'd assuredly get some butthole in a cheap fursuit stabbing people instead
it was
whoever made it must've pitched it stupid cheap and whoever was in charge of giving the license must've not given a frick and just wanted a quick buck.
Yeah, but that was like 40 years ago. Popeye's copywright has pretty much loosened up quite a bit since then, especially since it's split up between a bunch of different companies.
>Be some greedy company >Some smalltime vidya company want to use your iconic character for their arcade game >Refuse because muh copyright >Vidya company create original characters instead >Arcade game is a huge success, vidya company begins its legacy >40 years later your ip is reduced to shovelware due to ownership hell >In those same 40 years, said vidya company is now the biggest media giant around, and their mascot is the replacement design for your ip from 40 years ago
To think, Popeye would still have been relevant today if its owner company simply understood vidya's worth
5 months ago
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Mario is probably more popular than Mickey now tbhdesu
5 months ago
Anonymous
Mickey himself is pretty worthless these days. The boring reality is that Disney itself doesn't care about the mouse, but rather about the three circles that are supposed to represent the mouse. They fricked over copyright laws forever for the sole sake of brand recognition
5 months ago
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He is. Video games are more widespread than ever and he just had a hugely successful movie. Mickey has Kingdom Hearts and that recent series of shorts but they barely even use him.
5 months ago
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mickey is still a better character than mario though so it doesn't matter lol
5 months ago
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Oh yeah no Mario absolutely spanks Mickey Mouse for publicity and public relevancy for the past twenty years
5 months ago
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the funny part is they saw Donkey Kong's success and then decided to let Nintendo make a Popeye arcade game after it, but it was a complete nothingburger and it was quickly forgotten to time. it's possible Donkey Kong might've turned out that way if Nintendo had managed to secure the rights and never made Mario or Donkey Kong.
5 months ago
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There's no reason to assume DK's legacy would continue the same if it had been Popeye.
Isn’t a comic book by definition a corporate work, unless the guy did everything himself?
How long until Scrooge McDuck enters public domain?
iirc Disney was notoriously shitty towards the artists they paid to draw the Duck/Mouse comics back then. Barks wasn't even recognized for his work until the early 1960s. There's no way he owned the rights to the character. Also we'd have to wait until the second story featuring him becomes public domain for anyone to use the spry adventurer version of him people know and love.
Mickey should’ve gone public domain in 1985. That it’s happening now is the result of Disney lobbying like hell to rewrite copyright law in their favor.
They could do it again, but people are more aware of this shit in the digital age. They probably weighed the pros and cons and decided the PR backlash of pushing for more copyright extensions wasn’t worth the royalties of a cartoon that’s nearly a century old and nobody but animation historians really cares about anymore, especially since Mickey will be protected by trademarks forever.
>nobody but animation historians really cares about anymore
Its the most well known Disney character. You don't need to depict him wearing the sailor hat and he's still Disney's mascot.
Disney outright owns whatever comics you drew for them, so any new characters were immediately owned by Disney. This also prevents the original artists from receiving royalties, even if they use the artist's name while they're still alive.
It's one of the bigger reasons why Don Rosa quit, outside of his worsening eyesight:
https://career-end.donrosa.de/p/the-epilogue.html
Those two have been so ubiquitous in basically everything for 90 years would it really make any difference?
OG Dracula is already public, thus Castlevania.
imagine if there was Disney tier horseshit copyright for the original Dracula or Frankenstein
there wouldn't have been so many cool things, like Castlevania
copyright is fricking moronic now
Nah. The rest of the world is life + 70 years. There's actually a lot of steamboat willie uploads on youtube that are blocked in europe LOL. Like this one
Nah. The rest of the world is life + 70 years. There's actually a lot of steamboat willie uploads on youtube that are blocked in europe LOL. Like this one
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>Copyjews got so much abused by those richs homosexuals pedos that only Asia and Africa give a fair copyright time nowadays
I keep seeing this. Steam boat willy is the name of the short, micky has always been mickey. Look at the first frame of the short
"A Micky Mouse Cartoon"
You're calling the character by the name of the short.
You're arguing with logic, The Mou$e is arguing with israelite-jitsu. Mickey Mouse is still a protected trademark of the Di$ney corporation. They released steam boat Willie into PD exactly because they knew it would confuse dummies like you.
The legal fine print is that this specific Mickey, with that look, and those mannerisms are public domain, but any Mickey you see in later Disney media who can be defined as legally distinct is not public domain.
So like, you can't take the Kingdom Hearts design for Mickey, and put that in your video game. That's not public domain.
And you just know Disney are going to be fighting night and day to shut down anyone who tries to sell something with Mickey on it. "Oh, you made his shorts red. Whoopsy, we're suing you!".
I doubt they'll bother. It will create a streisand effect. And this event of Mickey becoming public domain isn't some little thing known just by nerds. I saw it on the 6 o clock local news in an area with 10 million people. There's no point fighting it anymore. Time to pull a Frozen and let it go.
You're missing the point. The entire reason they allowed this to go Public Domain is because it will create work for their legal department, it will create opportunities for them to protect their IP, and provide precedent for them needing to extend the duration of copyright because "Look at all the people illegally trying to copy our work".
This is tailor made to trick moron indies into thinking they can just use mickey mouse.
5 months ago
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they can just use Mickey Mouse though, they just can't use the modern white-eyed version of him or imply that that whatever work they use him in is associated with Disney in any way.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's not gonna happen bro. I feel like you live in one of those fantasy worlds where the company always wins "because."
It's too late for Disney to do anything and you also run on the assumption no one would just go to court and all would bow to some C&D.
5 months ago
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to be fair, Disney goes after people they have no case against on the regular and win because of the whole legal fees cost thing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
This is one of the biggest advantages corps have. They can just filibuster you and your smalltown lawyer out of all your time and money until you're forced to give up or starve on the streets.
Just because a trait or element appears in a later work doesn't magically make it dstinctive enough to be covered by copyright.
The Holmes Estate tried to sue nigflix for "making Holmes display emotion" because it was something present in later works that were still under copyright at the the time. The judge said showing emotions was something so universal in stories that it isn't distinctive enough to merit protection.
Hey Autismo.
The Steam Boat Willie version of Mickey is what is now in the public domain. It doesn't look like the modern Mickey Mouse, so people call it Steam Boat Willie.
You're welcome.
Steamboat Willie is the name of the short and the name of the boat in the short. The character is still Mickey Mouse and is designated as such in the title card.
Because they fricked copyright laws hard enough to make sure that only old ass designs become usable - not the entire IP.
Same will happen once Superman and Batman become public domain - you will be able to use the old original designs but if you try to make a Batman game or movie all of WB eyes will be locked hard on that design and they will sue your ass if you try anything creative with it.
Surely if you just make your own Batman design, that's okay though? As long as it can't be legally mistaken for any of Batman's other designs that WB owns, which actually is going to be a huge hurdle.
You could make Batman wear a green suit, or animal furs. I don't see how they could claim that. And then you can just say "this is Bruce Wayne. This is Batman", because that would be your legal right.
>you will be able to use the old original designs but if you try to make a Batman game or movie all of WB eyes will be locked hard on that design
bullshit. you can do whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on the copyright of newer stories.
Like, if you want to turn Batman into a troony in your comics, no one's stopping you.
Disney is weaker than ever. They are a husk traveling on goodwill from their parks, and have also decided to make the very intelligent move of throwing their hat into the political football game, so they can't even get 50% of the country to agree that extending their protections is a good thing unlike the 70's where EVERYONE loved Disney and everybody agreed protecting them at all costs was in the public interest.
Corporate worship is a hell of a drug and we're having withdrawal symptoms.
>Then why is this moronic board filled with pcbros and nintendies?
because morons like you keep calling every single game in existence "goyslop reddit troony shit" and being told to frick off
Didn't Disney do some shady redtape homosexualry to keep the mouse forever? How did he become public?
>oh but he's dead, i should get to steal from his children >oh but he sold the rights, to ensure the wellbeing of his children, the rights should become worthless because this was possible
Disney burned down absolutely all of their goodwill the last twenty years, you shouldn't feel the least bit sorry for them. They shouldn't be able to own ANYTHING for "Life of the author plus a thousand years" just so you israelites get to keep exclusive ownership of some squiggles on some paper.
You're arguing with logic, The Mou$e is arguing with israelite-jitsu. Mickey Mouse is still a protected trademark of the Di$ney corporation. They released steam boat Willie into PD exactly because they knew it would confuse dummies like you.
Trademark law relies on enforcement and this is unenforceable. So if this is their plan: it's a remarkably stupid one.
>oh but he's dead, i should get to steal from his children >oh but he sold the rights, to ensure the wellbeing of his children, the rights should become worthless because this was possible
Daily reminder that if public domain did not exist, neither would Disney since almost all of their classic movies (if not all) are taken from public domain stories.
Do you think Disney invented Pinnochio?
Cinderella?
Snow White?
What about Alice in Wonderland? Disney made their movie version in 1951; had the modern copyright terms that Disney lobbied for existed then (95 years for work for hire, life of author + 70 years) been in place in 1951 Disney would not have been able to make that movie. (The author passed away in 1898.)
for around a century they did, basically they extended the public domain deadline every time they were close to it via lobbying i think, but i guess with the advent of the internet and a ton more awareness of how copyright works/used to work they couldn't get away with it anymore
so now we are cursed with ips taking 100+ years to become public domain instead of the 20 or so they were supposed to, thanks disney very cool
>They're an evil company imo.
yeah no shit
this whole thing does make me wonder what would the media landscape would look like today if back then they ruled against extending the public domain time
it could've gone both ways really, like how it is now that companies reuse old shit constantly but instead of their own old shit they can use ANY old shit, or that new IPs are being made left and right to have short ("short" as in 20 years) windows of time to have lucrative, copyrighted IPs with old IPs not being used as much
Disney shat where they ate during the course of the last few years, and their punishment was no longer enjoying the benefit of the Mickey Mouse Protection Act and their special land rights in Florida
Copyright rights should drop much faster than it does, because this incentivizes companies to keep making cool new things instead of relying on old shit for 100 years.
Its lazy. You should have a point beyond member berries for inserting characters into your IP.
Otherwise you just become more of the same fortnite crossover slop everyone is tired of.
I'm surprised Disney isn't cooking up some bullshit to reclaim it. Hard to imagine such a large corporation would let any slither of their stuff go public
They've been extending the limit for years. It just looks like they hit the limit and can't push it anymore. Could be because of all the billions of dollars there been losing lately.
Making up a new Mickey does not magically extend the copyright on existing Mickeys. The only thing that can save fantasia Mickey is another copyright extension and that isn't going to happen.
>They only let it go because it wasn't the current Mickey that they can still milk at Disneyland
they also let it go because their rep is in the P-trap and they unironically can't afford to sink any lower. it's kinda amazing to watch really.
Because Mickey Mouse being in every game would be boring and stupid as frick. Did you know that not everyone is obsessed with Disney characters? Go play Kingdom Hearts 3.14 or whatever you fricking dork.
>people going crazy over the fact that 95 fricking years later something is somewhat public domain and all people will do with it are parodies anyway
didn't this shit used to be 70? Disney absolutely destroyed laws
>didn't this shit used to be 70? Disney absolutely destroyed laws
It used to be 20 years since publication.
Nowadays it is 70 years since death of the author OR if the work is created for a soulless megacorp (that can never truly die), it's 95 years since publication.
>why don't you just join the army, become an astronaut, pirate captain, ocean diver, swat officer, mafia boss, jet pilot...
dumbfrick argument if applied to video-games
This would be legit scarier if it was a shorter kid with a bigger mickey head. Like an actual mascot costume and not some regular guy with a comically small mask on. This is like the anti jason it's fricking hilarious.
I'm pretty sure it's easy to use any form of Mickey anyway. I mean Doesn't South Park just give him a blue coat and not call him Mickey and that allows them to do whatever?
Steamboat Willie is the name of the short and the name of the boat in the short. The character is still Mickey Mouse and is designated as such in the title card.
Not extending copyright is a good start, but now they need to move copyright back to 20 years or whatever it was before disney paid off congressmen. I want to see very cool and very legal video games where Superman and Daffy Duck team up to massacre troony pedophiles.
They have been 'buying it' for the last 100 years, gradually upping the public domain limit through lobbying.
They lost now because Disney is weaker and its public perception has been soiled by years of terrible decisions
Mickey should’ve gone public domain in 1985. That it’s happening now is the result of Disney lobbying like hell to rewrite copyright law in their favor.
They could do it again, but people are more aware of this shit in the digital age. They probably weighed the pros and cons and decided the PR backlash of pushing for more copyright extensions wasn’t worth the royalties of a cartoon that’s nearly a century old and nobody but animation historians really cares about anymore, especially since Mickey will be protected by trademarks forever.
Not to mention Disney is not the same as they were 40 years ago. They have been defanged multiple times in the court of law since then, and their own state which was built mostly in service of their industry has turned against them. They have a lot bigger problems than trying to fight these legal battles.
>old
Yeah it's clear they don't care about anything old beyond money, considering they're busy making shitty live action and cg remakes of everything they already made with 2d animation based on kiddified versions of public domain folk tales. They probably have hid a ton of animations from availability just like Merry Melodies and Looney Tunes and the like did over cartoons deemed "racist" by modern ideology.
I don't see the point behind public domain. Nothing good has ever come of it.
This will be the ultimate test; if anything good comes of this by 2025 then I'll concede you weren't all a bunch of morons.
>I don't see the point in allowing something to be freely available to all instead of locked forever behind paywalls and in the care of corporations who are given power to destroy you
>is there no way to renew it?
they did that for many decades but they've burned out their goodwill and it would take a miracle for them to lobby the length of copyright past the 100 years they already put it at. it used to be like 20 years back when they made Mickey.
Then Scrooge is about to find out there's something that money can't buy. And it's not about my head game, it's about buying my dignity. And that shit costs more than 25 grand, that shit wouldn't pay my mortgage for a year.
galactic starcruiser, galaxy edge is the star wars area they build on the park and its the area with the least amount of people/attendance, a complete ghost town even on high season
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Maybe if they hadn't based it around the sequels people would've actually paid money for it
Yeah it's so great at free advertising that they've lobbied four or five times before to extend the cut-off date for corporate IP ownership and not lose Steamboat Willie
Good article going over what you can and cannot do with Mickey now.
https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/mickey/
>Therefore, while the safest approach may be to stick to Mickey circa 1928 in new creations, copyright law also lets you use later material that does not qualify for copyright. Your mouse can speak intelligibly in a high voice even though Mickey 1.0 does not do so; giving a talking mouse a squeaky voice is not copyrightable.
What's stopping Disney from just moving up a short from Steamboat Willie and saying "Actually that mickey is clearly from (short not yet in public domain)"?
Waltz made specific shorts he put his name on, and when he was alive he never said any of those Mickey mouse were different.
That why not ALL the old Mickey mouse short are public domain, only the first ones
at the end of the day disney will sue regardless and a judge will give his rule, like if a indie game put steamboat mickey on their game nobody will give a shit, but if warner make a comic where superman beats the crap out of steamboat mickey disney will probably sue
I don't suppose there's any hope of you worthless, misguided zoomers treating this character that has entertained people for nearly a century with anything resembling dignity?
Seriously why the Frick do people would genuinely want to use Mickey right now outside of easy bait material such a making him horror related?
The characther is still remembered as a Disney characther right now and why would anyone associate their work with Disney outside of outright mocking Disney like South Park did?
>Oh cool i will put Mickey in my work but i'm gonna walk on ice for the rest of my life to not trigger those israelites to take it down because i've used the wrong color
And if anyone really wanted to use cartoon characthers like Mickey, Oswald was here for the taking since last year
Nothing bad comes of it either
But some bad would surely come of theoretically letting companies endlessly profit off of something they made 1000 years ago
It helps with avoiding the scenario of corporations hoarding IPs for all eternity. A human being will eventually grow old and die, a corporation can just merge and rebrand.
Guys I think that maybe public domain is a bad idea due to steamboat willie getting some horror movie/game. Don't you agree copyright should be forever?
It almost certainly will. The EU and US keep extending the time, we're currently at life + 70 years but apparently that's not enough. Mickey still had things to offer, there was no need to let unfunny chuds humiliate and remove his dignity.
The name micky mouse is still protected and they cant use anything that wasn't in the original cartoon. But I will be surprised if it doesn't start to show up in major things. Micky is too big to not abuse this. It will probably start with chinese companies making micky mouse merchandise.
Being genuine is too risky. All it takes is one homosexual recording or taking screenshots for you to become a living joke and have your reputation ruined. It's safer to hide behind shit like irony, nihilism and passive aggressiveness because them you get to test the waters and fall back to something if the crowd isn't reaction how you want them to. It's so bad that even here, where anonymity is the norm, people would STILL rather follow the crowd because showing any form of genuine investment gets you called cringe, reddit etc.
>The name micky mouse is still protected
no, it's not
I keep seeing this. Steam boat willy is the name of the short, micky has always been mickey. Look at the first frame of the short
"A Micky Mouse Cartoon"
You're calling the character by the name of the short.
would you people fricking read up on this shit before you post bullshit about it?
Technically they only need 1 lawsuit to set a precedent. I can think of several reason why they wouldn't bother of course, unless people actively egged them on.
Do you have a point? I'm guessing not so I'm not even going to entertain reading further posts. Get your point in on the first post next time.
You're so clueless. Public domain isn't a legal status.
Disney can afford to engage in hundreds of thousands of lawsuits while average people cannot. People are always talking about what is legal and not legal but it doesn't matter, it's the same as it always has been, rich corporations can threaten to sue while small businesses either need to concede or get fricked on legal fees or the judge not favouring them on that particular day.
Is there a name for catalog thumbnails lining up like that? It's always been amusing to me.
>copyrighted characters discover the parody laws (colorized)
Make all Disney princess futanari?
no, those are protected by law but in 1 year or so you can make Betty and Minnie futas (you can already do that under parody law) game and make money from it
>Infestation 88 comes out >Everyone immediately sees nazi imagery everywhere in the fricking product >They change the name, they issue an apology on discord >"SEE? THEY'RE WALKING IT BACK! THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID!" >It's impossible to fricking apologize for shitty coincidences in the modern era
I think it's down to coincidence when people are stretching as far as looking at the amount of letters in "Infestation" or its fricking SCRABBLE score to look for the other part of "1488" in the title
This kind of schizophrenia is precisely why everything gets neutered and made as inoffensive as possible. If it isn't some neurotic being offended by imagined slights, it's a /misc/troon like (You) making shit up to call something le heckin based and shedpilled.
The way copyright should work is that the company has copyright for 20 years inherently. After that they can maintain it for up to 60 years if they release a major product involving it every decade. So if you can put out a major Mario game each decade, cool, you get to keep Mario. But if you look at something like rudolf the red nosed reindeer, they haven't done shit with that in decades so why the frick should they still own that?
If I remember correctly, you can use all elements of the Steamboat Willie design, you just can't call him Mickey Mouse, and he can't have red pants because the red pants poster was made a year after the cartoon, so we gotta wait until 2025 for red pants Mick Mouse
You can call him Mickey Mouse. Why couldn't you?
Disney doesn't get any special extra protections here. No one cares about Disney these days. They pissed off too many lawmakers and lost a lot of their protection.
can you people ever stop thinking about muh republicans and democrats like ever?
Disney lobbied and got away with with tampering with copyright law for years and they got away with it because relatively few people knew about it. once the internet was a thing and people were more in tune with these things, it's pretty much universally agreed upon by everyone that Disney got away with a lot of bullshit and they will be hard pressed to ever affect it again because of this.
>Clueless people like yourself blame Disney for things they didn't have anything to do with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
dumbass
5 months ago
Anonymous
You didn't even read the link you posted, you worthless brainless worm. Because it agrees with what I said.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>it agrees with what I said
didn't you say Disney had nothing to do with that law? even though that article states that they lobbied for years and heavily supported that bill?
5 months ago
Anonymous
And the actual reason it was adopted was to harmonize with the EU. Just because they benefitted from it doesn't mean they made it happen. God, you people are getting dumber by the hour.
5 months ago
Anonymous
you said they had nothing to do with it
that article states that they lobbied for many years to get copyright periods lengthened, this bill lengthened it, and they supported it
5 months ago
Anonymous
And the actual reason it was adopted was to harmonize with the EU. Just because they benefitted from it doesn't mean they made it happen. God, you people are getting dumber by the minute.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>it doesn't mean they made it happen
again, you SAID that they didn't have anything to do with it >Clueless people like yourself blame Disney for things they didn't have anything to do with.
and the article states that Disney lobbied for years to get copyright extended, which this bill did, and why they supported it
you do know what lobbying is, right, anon?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Don't bother with bootlickers
5 months ago
Anonymous
You're the most naive guy in the world.
Democracy is the elites' favorite system of government because:
1. it allows them to remove presidents, parties, etc., that they don't support, without the need for a coup
2. it allows the elite to mold policies according to their will (while the people remain pacified thinking that their will is being done).
5 months ago
Anonymous
>moron goes on about his fascism fantasy
cool. Pretty irrelevant.
2 Also happens in all non-democratic systems.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'd say you're the most naive guy in the world for actually taking a politician's words at face value about a bill that was heavily lobbied for by a giant media corporation.
>N-NO! YOU CAN'T DO THIS! D-DISNEY WILL STOP IT
t. morons on a mongolian basket weaving forum who think they somehow know more than the various projects lawyers do.
Even though disney butchered and capitalised on mickey after the death of walt, i don't think this will ever revive mickey mouse ever, most people just make d grade horror slop or parody, i truly think that no work of an artist should be capitalised after their death
A big reason they do this horror shit (besides low budget) is that it's pretty much impossible for Disney to sue and state that despite public domain, people would be confused and think it was a disney product. Making it low budget horror shit makes it impossible to mistake it for an actual disney product.
This happened with Pooh, too. I actually think the idea of public domain will get stamped out by 2050. Companies are doing a good job convincing morons that copyright should be eternal so as to prevent....some dude making a cheap movie.
The strategy doesn't work until more and more happens. We are only just now getting these big name IPs into public domain. It wasn't possible for disney to use this strategy before.
it used to be 20 years, now it's 100 and most people fully recognize that 100 is way too long. a couple of shills and fanboys on the internet is not indicative of public opinion.
copyright laws aren't the same for the rest of the world.
sure, in some it expires sooner than the US - but in others you can renew it indefinitely. Have fun getting sued.
>They didn't try making anything until the US law happened
Yeah, because they couldn't release it in the biggest market if they wanted to use Disney's version. The movie was only made for that reason, no one was stopping them to make a Winnie horror movie if they wanted to, just look at how many Pinocchio or Peter Pan's movies are produced.
What is with the current obsession with indians? Is it just a race that you don't have to worry about GR3 over? Street shitting pajeet memes were tired and worn out a decade ago, yet you kids keep repeating it to the point you pre-emptively call everyone an indian as soon as you open a thread as if it were a brand new meme.
Imagine fabricating a scenario in your head to justify your own repetitive brainrot. I wonder if people like you ever self-reflect and realize you're acting like robots, repeating inserted programming ad nauseum until the next update comes in. Ironically, you're the types that always prattle on about "NPCs".
I miss "DO NOT REDEEM" That was actually really funny.
le "sir" and le "street shit" are unfunny. Bring back DO NOT REDEEM
That's only slightly less old than the rest of the india memes, and even more cancerous for it.
I am sorry you are so angry, genuinely. I hope one day things improve in your life so that you stop literally shitting yourself in anger about internet jokes.
Also Only read the first sentence since it was clear you're raging and now have nothing of worth to state. Bye.
I never see it. It's just "GOOD MORNING SARS" because some moron was obsessed over star citizen. I hope you'll prove me wrong by using the meme more. I would bet legit money you won't.
Copyright laws seems convoluted as hell. Like let’s say when Batman becomes public domain, I’m only allowed to use his initial iteration. If I make a comic about Batman doing X, and it turns out that DC had a similar story released 40 years ago that I wasn’t aware of, I could get sued.
Lets have it right, Scrouge Mcduck is not only the most chad disney character with the most wealth and character depth but also has the best disney game and the best disney comic (Life and times)
Depends, does he have a human penis or a crazy corkscrew duck penis?
Imagine fabricating a scenario in your head to justify your own repetitive brainrot. I wonder if people like you ever self-reflect and realize you're acting like robots, repeating inserted programming ad nauseum until the next update comes in. Ironically, you're the types that always prattle on about "NPCs".
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That's only slightly less old than the rest of the india memes, and even more cancerous for it.
>No Life and times adaptation
Disney are sitting on fricking GOLD and they won't do it, the absolute cowards, fricking censor your masterpiece, what absolute c**ts
>Disney takes some guys property and vastly changes the intent and meaning of the story so as to make it family friendly >This is ok >Someone takes one of Disney's properties and vastly changes the intent and meaning so it's not family friendly >"NOOOOOOOOOOOO! THINK ABOUT THE HECKIN MOUSEY WOUSEY!"
>hey this mickey mouse character borrows these extremely generic character traits from a cartoon released 4 years after Steamboat Willie therefore it's copyright infringement until 2028
This is actually those who owned the Sherlock Holmes copyright prevented license-less adaptations of the character by claiming that certain plot points were borrowed by the last Sherlock Holmes stories, which includes Ace Attorney Origins and it's the reason they changed his name to Herlock Sholmes.
Only thing Disney would need to do to ruin Steamboat Willie-based works is sue the creators for some vague difficult to disprove reasons and force them to spends ungodly amounts of money on lawyers until they go bankrupt. That's a well documented strategy even Sony has used to shut down a commercial Playstation emulator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem!#Sony_lawsuit
Way likelier to get thrown out for frivolity between Disney's low public relations and the fact that they'd be suing over things they don't hold the copyright for now. Do it more than a few times and they'd get restrictions or complete disbarment from even being able to make such lawsuits
the KH2 steamboat world was kino
from the color choices to the muffled sounds to the redesign of Sora Donald and Goofy
KH will never be that soulful again
>WHAT THE FRICK??? WHY IS THERE 88 IN THE NAME??? >"the game takes place in 1988" >WELL WHY IS THERE A FOURTEEN LETTER WORD NEXT TO IT??? >"because that's the word we used, there's monsters infesting the run down buildings" >UHHH... 1-4 PLAYER CO-OP??? 14??? 14 WITH THE TITLE 88??? >"are you mentally moronic or do you not know what co-op games are" >FRICK YOU NAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>copyright means nothing when it comes to parody
claiming fair use is not a magical shield against lawsuits. only a judge can decide if it holds. hence you're risking a lawsuit every day.
Shit like Mickey, Superman, Bugs etc is not the same as Dracula, Zombies, Frankenstein etc or something like Lovecraft and Fairy Tales
They are too heavily brand associated with the company that made them, it would be one thing if said companies were long gone but they aren't
>copyright us made illegal >every single movie studio starts making mcu clones because it made the most money >this is what people want
lmao. imagine thinking companies will make new shit when they will really just pump out 50 batmans a year
>people will stop make new shit
Classic moronic capitalist take, yeah, no one is going to want the money and construct a NotMcDonald and sell fricking fries and burger if you increase taxe and McDonald run away in fear.
copyleft > public domain
all derivatives of public works MUST be public too. this will prevent anybody profiting and trademarking from alterations or public property
Pretty much nothing. Only tiff is that I don't think Steam Boat Willy has any marketing appeal on its own it's just something Disney put so much money behind as a spearhead for their projects.
The fact that no one really gives a shit about Mickey. He's iconic but also the most personalityless of the main OG disney gang. How long until Goofy and Donald are public domain?
Also reminder that if we stuck with the original copyright law everything before 1996 would be public domain right now.
Why would I care about this shit after all the fanart and parodies of this character? Because you can now make money off of him now? What a non story and non thread.
No one will produce anything of quality with Steamboat Willie
they could
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2416450/Mouse/
>Even has elements of a dock stage in the trailer
He'll be an easter egg if nothing else, a cute reference. But I guarantee he'll be there.
Looks fun. Is this hand drawn like Cuphead?
Yes, the "sprites" all are, but the levels are properly 3d modeled.
>FPS shooter
>First Person Shooter shooter
>berserk powerup is a can of spinach
I like it
Basically this, no one producing a quality product would use the steamboat willie instead of their own property.
cuphead 2 endboss
Disney made its fortune on making movies about public domain characters. Why is there this assumption that not only would "good" content not be created with public domain characters, but that it would be unprofitable?
The main issue with Mickey is that he's still a trademark and can't be used in a way that would imply endorsement by Disney, which is something they're going to be sue happy over. It's difficult for Mickey to be the main character or a major character even and for it to not appear like it's a Disney creation, from a legal standpoint
According to
all you have to do is put a prominent disclaimer saying "Not affiliated with or sponsored by Disney."
that's stupid you would even have to do that as long as you're not making any mention or reference to them.
>Disney made its fortune on making movies about public domain characters. Why is there this assumption that not only would "good" content not be created with public domain characters, but that it would be unprofitable?
copyisraelites fear and seethe at the public domain because it makes them rabid that the public can experience copyright-free media.
>The main issue with Mickey is that he's still a trademark
How is that an issue? As long as you don't try to pass your work off as being affiliated with Yidsney you should be fine.
Walt also had good work ethic, talent, and half a brain
Disney made a fortune because of Disney. The fricker was a visionary that worked his ass off his entire life and took big risks that paid off. Good luck finding a modern Disney.
Are you sure about that?
AI generate it
Fan artists are taking advantage of it being Public Domain
because most will see it as uninspired, same with your shitpost
only uncreative hacks like horror "creators" would do so
Fricking hell it's already starting lmao.
and this is just merely the start
cannot wait for the new fnaf mickey and the fps mickey
>fps mickey
>new fnaf mickey
as an autist for this shit willie's already been around the sphere with fnati (albiet for only one of the old builds since nobody liked the way puritysin were going with it considering they replaced the main threat while the remake had him as a bonus character) and oblitus casa had him as the main threat too.
>Only the start
The novelty will wear off quickly and nobody will care like what happened to pooh
I think I heard from a friend that there was a Nuclear Throne type game that uses public domain characters. They have guns and they shoot the frick out of some ninjas or some shit. I already forgot the name of the game though. Could probably look that up on Steam though.
Mouse didn't even use Mickey anyway, it just uses black and white rubber hose aesthetic. I hope that game is good though.
>Mouse could technically rebrand to be Steamboat Willie gunning down innocent civilians and it would be 100% legal
This is so shit. I’d rather see a Cuphead style game made with love than low effort early access horror garbage shat out with zero effort. Like the Winnie the Pooh horror film. It’s just stupid. So fricking sick of the “thing for children but EVIL” trend.
Then stop buying it?
The Winnie the pooh film had a budget of 100k and made 5 mil. They don't make these because they want to shit on childhood (marvel and DC have that covered), they do it because
1. Horror films are cheap. Many a starting director got their start off making cheap horror
2. The public domain character creates a lot of buzz
3. Large return on investment.
>why aren't they making a cuphead game?!
that would not be out before the end of the decade if they did. Might as well just wait for other versions of Mickey to enter the public domain at that point.
I agree
>gloves
uh oh the gloves mickey mouse still under copyright protection
Apparently, you can have him wearing gloves as well.
God damn
>88
NAZI MICKEY
I just saw an FPS game with Mickey in my Steam discovery queue
found it https://store.steampowered.com/app/2416450/Mouse/
>release 2025
i've never seen such homosexuals making this long for a fricking indie
Weren't they trying to out autism Cuphead's developers and doing things in an even more inefficient way?
Yeah, exactly what it is. Apparently they are trying to hand animate 60 fps animations without any interpolation and some other moronic shit.
When did the development start? Because there are indie games that have been in active development for a decade or two and have not reached a full release.
>i've never seen such homosexuals making this long for a fricking indie
2-3 years for that (assuming it started a year ago)? that's not a long time at all zoomie
This post is old as frick but Mouse is relatively new. I remember it wasn't too long ago where they didn't even have level design, just a working view model with firing animations as a proof of concept.
That has nothing to do with Mickey entering the public domain. While it’s clearly Mickey-inspired it doesn’t take anything explicit.
and it has a 2025 release date IIRC so i ignored it
They probably should throw him in as a gag doing something bad. I mean, I'd respect them if they made Micky a pedo or drug addict or something
Isn't the girl you're posting an actual guy though
steamboat willie porngame
Steamboat Willy
Sail up and down the river and visit the lonely housewives at each port. Just don't let your Captain know what you're up to when making your deliveries, and try not to get caught by your own clingy girlfriend or any of the husbands returning home early.
Frick I will buy that game if it appears on Steam, a couple of years and we will also have first edition Betty Boobs
So can you make him talk with text?
You can voice him, it just can't be Mickey's high pitched voice and mannerisms.
just wait one year and the first voiced movie will become PD
>fnaf mickey
in other words: imagine the trucks full of PORN
I want to see Mickey as the big corpo mafia boss "the big M"
>What's stopping devs from putting him in every game
tastefulness, integrity, consistency. expect to see him in shit that has nothing to offer.
Only the Steamboat Willy version of Mickey is public domain so Disney can claim your game violates the copyrights if the Mickey Mouse in your game looks too similar to any of the ones that came after Steamboat Willy or has a character trait that was only introduced after it.
Nothing prevents anybody, so expect a lot. Most things will only be homages but anything more major will be games based around it or reskinning games. I expect a lot of skins
Some of the OG mickey with gloves is free domain now, it was more than just Steamboat Willy that went public.
Mickeys value as a character is so closely tied to being a Disney character that i'm not sure you can do much with him.
We'll probably get a few self-aware meta works about Mickey as a brand but not much else. If you need a generic somewhat cute character for your cartoon or game, why not just make one that you can own yourself?
Wait so am I allowed to use Steamboat willie and Mickey Mouse in my Florida comic now, on the signs and shit around Disney? Is the phrase ‘this Mickey Mouse bullshit’ now legal to use in a story?
you are only allowed to use steam boat willie
You can call him Mickey
Is that a... no it can't be... is that a reference to..?
So what's the deal?
you can only use this version? does he have to be in black and white too otherwise you get sued?
you can use him in color too
you just have to make his gloves yellow
You can make him any color you want. Disney doesn't own white gloves, as literally every minstrel cartoon of the era wore white gloves.
I never understood these goddamn gloves as a child from non anglosaxon civilization. Not just your typical cartoony animals in clothes, but extra clothed animals, real creepy/uncanny shit for no sane reason
>I never understood these goddamn gloves as a child from non anglosaxon civilization. Not just your typical cartoony animals in clothes, but extra clothed animals, real creepy/uncanny shit for no sane reason
You just have autism, and cartoon animals as a trigger.
The gloves are a remnant of early 20th century shorts. Animators designed their characters with gloves so their hands would remain visible in dark environments. Once technicolor productions became more widespread, they evolved to yellow gloves, the no gloves at all.
>does he have to be in black and white too otherwise you get sued?
Technically no, but if you use the exact same colors disney chose then you will be sued. If you swapped the color of his clothes it should be fine.
you can use the colorized poster and comic strips (red pants and yellow gloves or just paint his pants like blue and that's it
Nothing. Copyright is a bullshit scam meant to protect this homosexual alone. Now hes out and the worst of the shit is a stupid horror film trying to capitalize on it.
Why the frick is this shit the duration of a human lifetime again?
>Why the frick is this shit the duration of a human lifetime again?
because you wont shoot the elite families dead.
>Why the frick is this shit the duration of a human lifetime again?
there are people who create great things that are remembered for generations
and there's you, complaining that it should be easier to steal from those people
Here are some other characters that are about to become public domain.
2026: Pluto
2027: Universal's Frankenstein and Dracula
2030: Donald Duck
2033: Daffy Duck
2034: Superman and James Bond
2035: Batman and Bugs Bunny
can't you make OC donald duck and goofy and skip the lines of public domain?
You can make Timmy the Duck yes but i doubt people will bother and just wait for Donald to become free use.
Ronald Cuck and Gaffy
About time honestly. All of this stuff needs to be released, so people who are passionate about those characters can retake them, and do something good with them, instead of them being the sole property of awful people who horde IPs the way dragons horde gold.
The people who currently own Batman didn't create Batman. They don't have any love for the character, or have any deep desire to carry that torch, and do right by his creators. It's all just "stuff" to them, and it's disgusting. It offends me.
The Batman stuff going public domain is the original run. Superman is mostly the same as his original run, but Batman's original run used guns and hated Chinese with being a detective first. Superman being public domain will hit warner bros more than anything.
Doesn't Superman have no powers besides super strength in the original run.
You wouldn't be able to do much with that
iirc he could also jump super high. It's how he traveled before he was given flight.
I think the Fleischer cartoons are actually where he first flew iirc.
Pretty sure it was the radio show.
It would be better than other forms of superman. Too many powers and contradictory media make it hard to manage, which is why superman games never turn out good.
Meanwhile, a single power is eady to manage and design around. Just look at Mario, all the guy could do in Donkey Kong was jump and sometimes grab hammers, and even in Super Mario bros, jumping is still his defining feature. Limits bears creativity
I can agree with this.
Superman has those seemingly random powers because that's what they are, when they started doing that his super power was literally having any super power so that he could effortlessly beat any foe, that's why his laundry list of super powers is such a fricking random, incoherent mess.
Super strength can do a lot, but there's only so many problems that can be solved with a hammer.
This is why batman is still popular despite having no super power while super man is impossible to take seriously.
They gave him flight in the 1940s radio show, so I dunno if people can justify it with that.
>so people who are passionate about those characters can retake them
Delusional. It's going to be maybe one or two people doing actually good stuff but it'll be buried among the 3000 trash works made by morons trying to get a quick buck
Superman and Batman are gonna be a trip but their logos are more iconic than the guy himself and that's probably still protected
>2035 Bugs Bunny
The wait is long but it will be worth it!
Also just the old design. Not the modern version. We get the long eyed one.
Can I make that one cross dress for my Furry x Human VN?
Works for me.
dat bussy got me acting unreasonable
some years more and will be open season for bunussy
>Furry x Human VN
based, would stuff that wabbit
Original is best.
Isn't this the original?
I stand corrected.
Those already are and nobody gives a frick
The "A Wild Hare" animation expires after 2035
>he thinks he's gonna get "Ehh, what's up, doc?"
>what's up, doc?
>2035
>bugs bunny horror movie
my fricking sides
oof
is -this- (thread topic) why there was that god awful pooh "horror" movie recently?
You're going to get an official stag reel, and you're going to like it!
current day animation of him is pretty horrific
I've seen 2 or 3 episodes of The Looney Tunes Show and dear God, it was the most stale, unfunny and boring cartoon I ever seen.
Even the fricking Cramp Twins I watched as a kid were better than nu-Looney Tunes.
that show was good, homosexual
also it's like 15 years old so it's not really nu-Looney Tunes
genuinely this could be the funniest shit ever if they went full slapstick with it. like a cartoon character doing his stupid cartoon shit on human beings that react realistically to being squashed flat with a fricking anvil could be one of the greatest horror movies ever made but we'd assuredly get some butthole in a cheap fursuit stabbing people instead
So the original Mask?
Looks like AOC.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit is the closest you will get to this concept. The main character's brother was killed in that fashion.
Popeye is next year too
>popeye goes public
>senile miyamoto forces nintendo to replace mario with him everywhere retroactively
Sweet.
So what was the deal with that switch popeye game then? Surely it wasn't official.
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It was, it's just that Popeye is pretty cheap to license. That game is just a shitty remake of the NES game.
it was
whoever made it must've pitched it stupid cheap and whoever was in charge of giving the license must've not given a frick and just wanted a quick buck.
there are a lot of IPs forgotten to time that are insanely cheap to license
But didn't Nintendo have trouble getting a license to popeye for what eventually became donkey kong?
you are comparing poppey in the 80s to poppey now.
Yeah, but that was like 40 years ago. Popeye's copywright has pretty much loosened up quite a bit since then, especially since it's split up between a bunch of different companies.
>Be some greedy company
>Some smalltime vidya company want to use your iconic character for their arcade game
>Refuse because muh copyright
>Vidya company create original characters instead
>Arcade game is a huge success, vidya company begins its legacy
>40 years later your ip is reduced to shovelware due to ownership hell
>In those same 40 years, said vidya company is now the biggest media giant around, and their mascot is the replacement design for your ip from 40 years ago
To think, Popeye would still have been relevant today if its owner company simply understood vidya's worth
Mario is probably more popular than Mickey now tbhdesu
Mickey himself is pretty worthless these days. The boring reality is that Disney itself doesn't care about the mouse, but rather about the three circles that are supposed to represent the mouse. They fricked over copyright laws forever for the sole sake of brand recognition
He is. Video games are more widespread than ever and he just had a hugely successful movie. Mickey has Kingdom Hearts and that recent series of shorts but they barely even use him.
mickey is still a better character than mario though so it doesn't matter lol
Oh yeah no Mario absolutely spanks Mickey Mouse for publicity and public relevancy for the past twenty years
the funny part is they saw Donkey Kong's success and then decided to let Nintendo make a Popeye arcade game after it, but it was a complete nothingburger and it was quickly forgotten to time. it's possible Donkey Kong might've turned out that way if Nintendo had managed to secure the rights and never made Mario or Donkey Kong.
There's no reason to assume DK's legacy would continue the same if it had been Popeye.
How long until Scrooge McDuck enters public domain?
>carl barks died on august 25, 2000
>death of the author + 70 years
2070
Isn’t a comic book by definition a corporate work, unless the guy did everything himself?
iirc Disney was notoriously shitty towards the artists they paid to draw the Duck/Mouse comics back then. Barks wasn't even recognized for his work until the early 1960s. There's no way he owned the rights to the character. Also we'd have to wait until the second story featuring him becomes public domain for anyone to use the spry adventurer version of him people know and love.
>nobody but animation historians really cares about anymore
Its the most well known Disney character. You don't need to depict him wearing the sailor hat and he's still Disney's mascot.
Disney outright owns whatever comics you drew for them, so any new characters were immediately owned by Disney. This also prevents the original artists from receiving royalties, even if they use the artist's name while they're still alive.
It's one of the bigger reasons why Don Rosa quit, outside of his worsening eyesight:
https://career-end.donrosa.de/p/the-epilogue.html
damn if only Disney was as incompetent as Archie
>Universal's Frankenstein and Dracula
Those two have been so ubiquitous in basically everything for 90 years would it really make any difference?
OG Dracula is already public, thus Castlevania.
imagine if there was Disney tier horseshit copyright for the original Dracula or Frankenstein
there wouldn't have been so many cool things, like Castlevania
copyright is fricking moronic now
that only in the US, the rest of the world still follows the 50 year rule
So literally the only country that matters for anything with money behind it.
thats not how things work, if the IP is not from the US it follows the 50 year rule, dracula would still follow the 50 year rule
Silly anon, China doesn't give a frick about copyrights.
they probably do if the holder is in with certain people in the party.
or China a dystopia hellhole
Nah. The rest of the world is life + 70 years. There's actually a lot of steamboat willie uploads on youtube that are blocked in europe LOL. Like this one
?si=G_URY-WBl_UZTCD-
>There's actually a lot of steamboat willie uploads on youtube that are blocked in europe LOL. Like this one
Works in Finland.
>Copyjews got so much abused by those richs homosexuals pedos that only Asia and Africa give a fair copyright time nowadays
kinda funny if mickey followed the death + 70 year rule he would last until 2036
what a retraded color palette
>2027: Universal's Frankenstein and Dracula
who cares? you can already use them
DC is gonna die without Batman
And that's a good thing. When was the last time DC made something good with Batman?
Hopefully Nintendo/Konami own DC character
Y'hear that, Donald!
I AM ETERNAL!
>2035: Batman and Bugs Bunny
Yeah but it's the serial killer Batman with a gun who shoots justice into criminals.
>original gun-toting vigilante batman
SOUL
*Soulless
TGT being full canon when
thats not how copyfail works, masonic mouse is still copyfailed, "Steamboat Whiley" the scene, the boat, the whistling, is no longer copyfailed.
Charlie Chaplin and Peter Pan also lost copyright protection this year. Not just Mickey.
How come the mouse didn't make some new bullshit to delay Mickey's release to the public domain?
That's exactly what they did, though. They released steam boat Willie into PD, not Mickey Mouse
I keep seeing this. Steam boat willy is the name of the short, micky has always been mickey. Look at the first frame of the short
"A Micky Mouse Cartoon"
You're calling the character by the name of the short.
You're arguing with logic, The Mou$e is arguing with israelite-jitsu. Mickey Mouse is still a protected trademark of the Di$ney corporation. They released steam boat Willie into PD exactly because they knew it would confuse dummies like you.
The legal fine print is that this specific Mickey, with that look, and those mannerisms are public domain, but any Mickey you see in later Disney media who can be defined as legally distinct is not public domain.
So like, you can't take the Kingdom Hearts design for Mickey, and put that in your video game. That's not public domain.
And you just know Disney are going to be fighting night and day to shut down anyone who tries to sell something with Mickey on it. "Oh, you made his shorts red. Whoopsy, we're suing you!".
the red shorts are fine because they appeared in posters from the same year Steamboat Willie came out.
sometimes i wish i'd become a copyright lawyer, i'd be fricking rich
Is there a type of lawyer who's poor?
the ones that can't compete with israeli lawyers
Any one with morals and/or doesn't want to work for big corpo. Prosecutors for example barely make more than $50k
>t. law school dropout
I should be allowed to sell my clay Mickey Mouse figure on Etsy frick you Disney
I doubt they'll bother. It will create a streisand effect. And this event of Mickey becoming public domain isn't some little thing known just by nerds. I saw it on the 6 o clock local news in an area with 10 million people. There's no point fighting it anymore. Time to pull a Frozen and let it go.
You're missing the point. The entire reason they allowed this to go Public Domain is because it will create work for their legal department, it will create opportunities for them to protect their IP, and provide precedent for them needing to extend the duration of copyright because "Look at all the people illegally trying to copy our work".
This is tailor made to trick moron indies into thinking they can just use mickey mouse.
they can just use Mickey Mouse though, they just can't use the modern white-eyed version of him or imply that that whatever work they use him in is associated with Disney in any way.
It's not gonna happen bro. I feel like you live in one of those fantasy worlds where the company always wins "because."
It's too late for Disney to do anything and you also run on the assumption no one would just go to court and all would bow to some C&D.
to be fair, Disney goes after people they have no case against on the regular and win because of the whole legal fees cost thing.
This is one of the biggest advantages corps have. They can just filibuster you and your smalltown lawyer out of all your time and money until you're forced to give up or starve on the streets.
Just because a trait or element appears in a later work doesn't magically make it dstinctive enough to be covered by copyright.
The Holmes Estate tried to sue nigflix for "making Holmes display emotion" because it was something present in later works that were still under copyright at the the time. The judge said showing emotions was something so universal in stories that it isn't distinctive enough to merit protection.
Hey Autismo.
The Steam Boat Willie version of Mickey is what is now in the public domain. It doesn't look like the modern Mickey Mouse, so people call it Steam Boat Willie.
You're welcome.
Steamboat Willie is the name of the short and the name of the boat in the short. The character is still Mickey Mouse and is designated as such in the title card.
Ho they will, as soon as someone makes a t-shirt of some product that makes any revenue, you bet Di$ney is going to cook up some bullshit.
Because they fricked copyright laws hard enough to make sure that only old ass designs become usable - not the entire IP.
Same will happen once Superman and Batman become public domain - you will be able to use the old original designs but if you try to make a Batman game or movie all of WB eyes will be locked hard on that design and they will sue your ass if you try anything creative with it.
Surely if you just make your own Batman design, that's okay though? As long as it can't be legally mistaken for any of Batman's other designs that WB owns, which actually is going to be a huge hurdle.
You could make Batman wear a green suit, or animal furs. I don't see how they could claim that. And then you can just say "this is Bruce Wayne. This is Batman", because that would be your legal right.
>you will be able to use the old original designs but if you try to make a Batman game or movie all of WB eyes will be locked hard on that design
bullshit. you can do whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on the copyright of newer stories.
Like, if you want to turn Batman into a troony in your comics, no one's stopping you.
Disney is weaker than ever. They are a husk traveling on goodwill from their parks, and have also decided to make the very intelligent move of throwing their hat into the political football game, so they can't even get 50% of the country to agree that extending their protections is a good thing unlike the 70's where EVERYONE loved Disney and everybody agreed protecting them at all costs was in the public interest.
Corporate worship is a hell of a drug and we're having withdrawal symptoms.
>Corporate worship is a hell of a drug and we're having withdrawal symptoms.
Then why is this moronic board filled with pcbros and nintendies?
The video game industry in general is one long hangover from brand loyalists driving it into the ground.
PC is a collection of dozens upon dozens of unrelated brands. Why are you bringing the entirety of PC up in some argument about corporate worship?
>Then why is this moronic board filled with pcbros and nintendies?
because morons like you keep calling every single game in existence "goyslop reddit troony shit" and being told to frick off
>Then why is this moronic board filled with pcbros and nintendies?
Mod approved roleplaying threads.
Disney burned down absolutely all of their goodwill the last twenty years, you shouldn't feel the least bit sorry for them. They shouldn't be able to own ANYTHING for "Life of the author plus a thousand years" just so you israelites get to keep exclusive ownership of some squiggles on some paper.
Trademark law relies on enforcement and this is unenforceable. So if this is their plan: it's a remarkably stupid one.
They tried in 2016 as part of a new trade bill Trump killed.
>Trump fricked over Disney at least once
Based, no wonder that they wanted him gone
I might start liking Disney after he dies in prison.
>liking a contender for the most wicked company in existence because orange man bad
Politics has rotten your brain
Internet
>oh but he's dead, i should get to steal from his children
>oh but he sold the rights, to ensure the wellbeing of his children, the rights should become worthless because this was possible
Poor Disney children huh we’re putting them in the poorhouse
Steal what? Disney can still use Steamboat Willie. It's public domain after all.
>me and my children and my children's children should be paid in perpetuity for eternity because I drew a mouse once
Do Walt's children retain any ownership of Mickey Mouse?
Did he even have children?
I'm pretty sure some guy called Bob Iger is in charge of Disney.
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2416450/Mouse/
the walt disney corporation has already done more damage to his name than any of us could ever do
Don't mind me, stealing all of Diane and Sharon Disney's entire fortune
Daily reminder that if public domain did not exist, neither would Disney since almost all of their classic movies (if not all) are taken from public domain stories.
Do you think Disney invented Pinnochio?
Cinderella?
Snow White?
No.
>Copyrighting fairytales centuries old
You think the Grimm brothers came up with their stories?
Do you have a point? I'm guessing not so I'm not even going to entertain reading further posts. Get your point in on the first post next time.
What about Alice in Wonderland? Disney made their movie version in 1951; had the modern copyright terms that Disney lobbied for existed then (95 years for work for hire, life of author + 70 years) been in place in 1951 Disney would not have been able to make that movie. (The author passed away in 1898.)
>refused air in USA
Poor 1949 Alice actor/production team in France…
Didn't Disney do some shady redtape homosexualry to keep the mouse forever? How did he become public?
for around a century they did, basically they extended the public domain deadline every time they were close to it via lobbying i think, but i guess with the advent of the internet and a ton more awareness of how copyright works/used to work they couldn't get away with it anymore
so now we are cursed with ips taking 100+ years to become public domain instead of the 20 or so they were supposed to, thanks disney very cool
>they extended the public domain deadline every time they were close to it via lobbying
The irony of it is that earlier disney works were based on public domain fairy tales, books and images. They're an evil company imo.
they're evil but they are now run by incompetents so they are at least on the decline, albeit slow due to how fricking massive they are.
>They're an evil company imo.
yeah no shit
this whole thing does make me wonder what would the media landscape would look like today if back then they ruled against extending the public domain time
it could've gone both ways really, like how it is now that companies reuse old shit constantly but instead of their own old shit they can use ANY old shit, or that new IPs are being made left and right to have short ("short" as in 20 years) windows of time to have lucrative, copyrighted IPs with old IPs not being used as much
Disney shat where they ate during the course of the last few years, and their punishment was no longer enjoying the benefit of the Mickey Mouse Protection Act and their special land rights in Florida
extremely moronic post
nobody cares about mickey mouse
>Sakurai can use his 1930s face for Soras ultimate
And all is well with the world.
Copyright rights should drop much faster than it does, because this incentivizes companies to keep making cool new things instead of relying on old shit for 100 years.
It used too. Can you guess what happened?
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Its lazy. You should have a point beyond member berries for inserting characters into your IP.
Otherwise you just become more of the same fortnite crossover slop everyone is tired of.
They should put him in Cuphead as an easter egg.
I'm surprised Disney isn't cooking up some bullshit to reclaim it. Hard to imagine such a large corporation would let any slither of their stuff go public
They've been extending the limit for years. It just looks like they hit the limit and can't push it anymore. Could be because of all the billions of dollars there been losing lately.
They fought for fricking decades
They only let it go because it wasn't the current Mickey that they can still milk at Disneyland
Idk if they will let go fantasia Mickey in 10 years or make up another Mickey and saying they're not the same
Making up a new Mickey does not magically extend the copyright on existing Mickeys. The only thing that can save fantasia Mickey is another copyright extension and that isn't going to happen.
What i mean is that Fantasia Mickey design is way Closer to current Mickey
Same as Symphony hour
So i Wonder what Disney will cope to Keep rights on the rats
>They only let it go because it wasn't the current Mickey that they can still milk at Disneyland
they also let it go because their rep is in the P-trap and they unironically can't afford to sink any lower. it's kinda amazing to watch really.
>you will be dead or in a nursing home before any modern characters go public domain
Thank God
Mickey mouse is overrated and probably even Disney doesn't care about it last few decades
Because Mickey Mouse being in every game would be boring and stupid as frick. Did you know that not everyone is obsessed with Disney characters? Go play Kingdom Hearts 3.14 or whatever you fricking dork.
>people going crazy over the fact that 95 fricking years later something is somewhat public domain and all people will do with it are parodies anyway
didn't this shit used to be 70? Disney absolutely destroyed laws
>didn't this shit used to be 70? Disney absolutely destroyed laws
It used to be 20 years since publication.
Nowadays it is 70 years since death of the author OR if the work is created for a soulless megacorp (that can never truly die), it's 95 years since publication.
>why don't you just join the army, become an astronaut, pirate captain, ocean diver, swat officer, mafia boss, jet pilot...
dumbfrick argument if applied to video-games
>pic
based and art pilled. Coomerism is what realism produces
There’s really no point Disney will still figure out a way to sue and get everything taken down.
Can't wait to fight him in Black Souls 3
Big developers aren't going to include Mickey when they can use and monetize their own characters.
Small indie devs will do it for attention.
Cringekino
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>not traphouse
wasteful
This would be legit scarier if it was a shorter kid with a bigger mickey head. Like an actual mascot costume and not some regular guy with a comically small mask on. This is like the anti jason it's fricking hilarious.
I'm pretty sure it's easy to use any form of Mickey anyway. I mean Doesn't South Park just give him a blue coat and not call him Mickey and that allows them to do whatever?
yes thats parody, but parody doesnt sell, thats why pokemon clones fail
Pokemon clones aren't parodies. Not unless they're explicitly poking fun at the concept of Pokemon. Yokai Watch isn't a parody.
rick and morty totally not pokemon is the only phone game I actually enjoyed.
its only steamboat willie, not mickey mouse, have fun getting sued
nope
You’ll burn every bridge you’ll ever have with Disney
>it doesn't even affect Mickey Mouse and you can't depict him in color, it's specifically the version of him in the short that's named Will-
I was considering putting him on my game as a joke
I think 20s cartoon artstyle will pick up as FOTM for a bit because of Steam boat willie
Hell yeah, I wishlisted your game.
thank you
Hot.
Do you have a higher-quality version of this b***h?
what is this body type called?
gourd
sauce?
It's in the filename.
thanks anon, wasn't sure if the filename was the name of the actual game i just thought it was a preview with the flashing floor tiles.
consider adding Minnie (because I like female anthros) also name and Steam release?
You should totally put him in.
Honestly, I hope this Mickey causes a resurgence in cartoonish platformers.
Not extending copyright is a good start, but now they need to move copyright back to 20 years or whatever it was before disney paid off congressmen. I want to see very cool and very legal video games where Superman and Daffy Duck team up to massacre troony pedophiles.
>What's stopping devs from putting him in every game now
HEY EVERYBODY
Fortnite skin confirmed
fluffnite
the first comics are also PD
I want ugly fat bastard Pete fricking Minnie and sissy Mickey in his steamboat of debauchery (even Clarabelle gets it)
What will you be remembered for?
Dabbing on indians, duh
What's he lookin at on your catalog?
dunno im not a newbie i only use the front page.
Cringe, I bet you still have physical games too
>Mostly porn threads
Wouldn't have it any other way
rear
he was public domain for ages now, only in the lad of morons he wasnt
Be ause they'll still sue your ass at the drop of a hat and will win
Disney is now largely associated with groomers, nobody serious wants to soil their image by using their characters.
Whatever you say pixy duster
Reminder that we would be at 1967 by now assuming everything was at 28+28 like it was before Disney extensions.
Even with the 1976 extension we would be at 1948 by now, which would still cover quite a few things.
superman, batman etc.
I don't know shit about copyright law, was Disney powerless to stop this? Couldn't they have bought it, is there no way to renew it?
why would they bother stopping this, modern disney wants all their old stuff to die
They have been 'buying it' for the last 100 years, gradually upping the public domain limit through lobbying.
They lost now because Disney is weaker and its public perception has been soiled by years of terrible decisions
Mickey should’ve gone public domain in 1985. That it’s happening now is the result of Disney lobbying like hell to rewrite copyright law in their favor.
They could do it again, but people are more aware of this shit in the digital age. They probably weighed the pros and cons and decided the PR backlash of pushing for more copyright extensions wasn’t worth the royalties of a cartoon that’s nearly a century old and nobody but animation historians really cares about anymore, especially since Mickey will be protected by trademarks forever.
Not to mention Disney is not the same as they were 40 years ago. They have been defanged multiple times in the court of law since then, and their own state which was built mostly in service of their industry has turned against them. They have a lot bigger problems than trying to fight these legal battles.
>old
Yeah it's clear they don't care about anything old beyond money, considering they're busy making shitty live action and cg remakes of everything they already made with 2d animation based on kiddified versions of public domain folk tales. They probably have hid a ton of animations from availability just like Merry Melodies and Looney Tunes and the like did over cartoons deemed "racist" by modern ideology.
>I don't see the point in allowing something to be freely available to all instead of locked forever behind paywalls and in the care of corporations who are given power to destroy you
>Couldn't they have bought it
lmao no. Republicans hate Disney now and would vote to remove Disney's copyrights entirely if possible.
>would vote to remove Disney's copyrights entirely if possible.
A man can dream
Make all Disney princess futanari?
>is there no way to renew it?
they did that for many decades but they've burned out their goodwill and it would take a miracle for them to lobby the length of copyright past the 100 years they already put it at. it used to be like 20 years back when they made Mickey.
>>Here's ten grand. Now, on your knees
>Would you, Ganker?
Nah that frick can drop $100k at least if he wants some action.
Scrooge is a man of business, and he knows your head game isn't worth $100k. He'll give you 25, take it or leave it
Then Scrooge is about to find out there's something that money can't buy. And it's not about my head game, it's about buying my dignity. And that shit costs more than 25 grand, that shit wouldn't pay my mortgage for a year.
>i have dignity
>but i'll still take $100k for a big muscly anthro duck to have his way with me
>the anonymous poster using the website Ganker said
I'd suck a corkscrew to pay off my house.
Big companies that want to stay on good terms with Disney will avoid it.
Does anyone even want to work with them anymore? Everything is a box office bomb from them, and they're notoriously horrible to work with.
It's literally just their theme parks keeping them afloat, now.
laughs in galaxy edge
What was that star wars hotel that had to be shut down?
galactic starcruiser, galaxy edge is the star wars area they build on the park and its the area with the least amount of people/attendance, a complete ghost town even on high season
Maybe if they hadn't based it around the sequels people would've actually paid money for it
I mean Nintendo will certainly avoid it less Sora gets banned from Smash Bros
Mickey was added as a character in this game too! (not mine)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/657690/The_Caribbean_Sail/
I wonder when superman become public domain some indie dev tries to make a game for him
So I take it this version of Pete is public domain as well?
I'll get started on the porn
Bless you, anon.
it's just free advertising for yidsney
Yeah it's so great at free advertising that they've lobbied four or five times before to extend the cut-off date for corporate IP ownership and not lose Steamboat Willie
>Mortal Kombat announce fricking when ???
>unironically caring about Mortal Kombat
Mick knows kino when he sees it
Is there a name for catalog thumbnails lining up like that? It's always been amusing to me.
>you can use gloves
>You can use colors
>You can use almost everything
So what make the difference between Steamboat Willie and this Mickey who is still goyrighted?
Specifically yellow gloves and brown shoes.
I think the main thing is the voice, since Mickey doesn't really talk in Steamboat Willie.
see
>Therefore, while the safest approach may be to stick to Mickey circa 1928 in new creations, copyright law also lets you use later material that does not qualify for copyright. Your mouse can speak intelligibly in a high voice even though Mickey 1.0 does not do so; giving a talking mouse a squeaky voice is not copyrightable.
mickey IS steamboat willie you Black personTRON
steamboat willie is the name of the cartoon
these "it's just for steamboat willie, it's not for mickey mouse" morons are going to be around for while, aren't they?
Surprising how many people have no idea the cartoon is called "MICKEY MOUSE in Steamboat Willie"
Steamboat Willie was the boat.
there's always morons who just look at headlines and don't look at nuance. it's the same genre of "person".
Good article going over what you can and cannot do with Mickey now.
https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/mickey/
What's stopping Disney from just moving up a short from Steamboat Willie and saying "Actually that mickey is clearly from (short not yet in public domain)"?
Waltz made specific shorts he put his name on, and when he was alive he never said any of those Mickey mouse were different.
That why not ALL the old Mickey mouse short are public domain, only the first ones
at the end of the day disney will sue regardless and a judge will give his rule, like if a indie game put steamboat mickey on their game nobody will give a shit, but if warner make a comic where superman beats the crap out of steamboat mickey disney will probably sue
I don't suppose there's any hope of you worthless, misguided zoomers treating this character that has entertained people for nearly a century with anything resembling dignity?
found the yidsney exec
Seriously why the Frick do people would genuinely want to use Mickey right now outside of easy bait material such a making him horror related?
The characther is still remembered as a Disney characther right now and why would anyone associate their work with Disney outside of outright mocking Disney like South Park did?
>Oh cool i will put Mickey in my work but i'm gonna walk on ice for the rest of my life to not trigger those israelites to take it down because i've used the wrong color
And if anyone really wanted to use cartoon characthers like Mickey, Oswald was here for the taking since last year
I keep imagining in 100 years all the goyslop shit on public domain, thank god I will be dead by then
Post yfw you lived long enough to see Mickey Mouse unironically enter public domain
not even disney give a shit about mickey now, dont think thats a huge thing
Yeah but, why would we? I could put a "frick disney" splash screen and achieve the same result.
I don't see the point behind public domain. Nothing good has ever come of it.
This will be the ultimate test; if anything good comes of this by 2025 then I'll concede you weren't all a bunch of morons.
Nothing bad comes of it either
But some bad would surely come of theoretically letting companies endlessly profit off of something they made 1000 years ago
It helps with avoiding the scenario of corporations hoarding IPs for all eternity. A human being will eventually grow old and die, a corporation can just merge and rebrand.
Can't wait for all the morons that will beg endlessly for Mickey for Smash 6
>All these corpo bootlickers
Man FRICK disney
I wanna see mickey mouses waving his dick on every billboard.
It's funny how History turns out, sometimes. Who knows what will happen 40 years from now. Maybe we're laughing right now, but we won't by that time.
40 years from now there's gonna be Steamboat Willy vs 1930s Supes vs 1930s Batman
Guys I think that maybe public domain is a bad idea due to steamboat willie getting some horror movie/game. Don't you agree copyright should be forever?
It almost certainly will. The EU and US keep extending the time, we're currently at life + 70 years but apparently that's not enough. Mickey still had things to offer, there was no need to let unfunny chuds humiliate and remove his dignity.
>certainly will
Clearly not.
>Argument not found
Nope. Even last year I played a game that had to not get too close to their Frankenstein's monster design. Or was it the year before that?
The name micky mouse is still protected and they cant use anything that wasn't in the original cartoon. But I will be surprised if it doesn't start to show up in major things. Micky is too big to not abuse this. It will probably start with chinese companies making micky mouse merchandise.
Nobody will be respectful. This generation is too spiteful and cynical. All of it will remove his dignity.
Why are people so spiteful nowadays? Why is it so hard to just make something good and genuine?
Being genuine is too risky. All it takes is one homosexual recording or taking screenshots for you to become a living joke and have your reputation ruined. It's safer to hide behind shit like irony, nihilism and passive aggressiveness because them you get to test the waters and fall back to something if the crowd isn't reaction how you want them to. It's so bad that even here, where anonymity is the norm, people would STILL rather follow the crowd because showing any form of genuine investment gets you called cringe, reddit etc.
>The name micky mouse is still protected
no, it's not
would you people fricking read up on this shit before you post bullshit about it?
People will continue to use him and there's little disney can do unless they want to engage in possibly hundreds to thousands of lawsuits.
Technically they only need 1 lawsuit to set a precedent. I can think of several reason why they wouldn't bother of course, unless people actively egged them on.
You're so clueless. Public domain isn't a legal status.
If you say so bro. I am sure one day your fantasy will become reality.
>"Public domain isn't a legal status."
Intelligence check failed
Disney can afford to engage in hundreds of thousands of lawsuits while average people cannot. People are always talking about what is legal and not legal but it doesn't matter, it's the same as it always has been, rich corporations can threaten to sue while small businesses either need to concede or get fricked on legal fees or the judge not favouring them on that particular day.
finally Mickey is free from his slavers!
>copyrighted characters discover the parody laws (colorized)
no, those are protected by law but in 1 year or so you can make Betty and Minnie futas (you can already do that under parody law) game and make money from it
>Infestation 88 comes out
>Everyone immediately sees nazi imagery everywhere in the fricking product
>They change the name, they issue an apology on discord
>"SEE? THEY'RE WALKING IT BACK! THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID!"
>It's impossible to fricking apologize for shitty coincidences in the modern era
>IT'S JUST A COINCIDENCE
>STOP NOTICING THINGS
I think it's down to coincidence when people are stretching as far as looking at the amount of letters in "Infestation" or its fricking SCRABBLE score to look for the other part of "1488" in the title
Unironically what the frick are you talking about?
https://www.ign.com/articles/mickey-mouse-horror-game-devs-respond-to-neo-nazi-and-ai-claims
we need to urgently gather all the israelites and put them in a mental health camp where we can cure their schizophrenia and paranoid delusions
brainrot is so great that if you put 1889 as a date people will claim you are a nazi
Who? Europe was holy peak on 1880s.
1889 is the year hitler was born
>baby somehow "evil"
Yes? And?
>completely missing the point
>Schizophrenic and snowflake get offended at year date
All babies are inherently evil prior to baptism.
>bro this shit isn't a nazi game you're crazy for putting 1-4 player co op and 88 in the title together
Walt Disney POV:
would you shit yourself if walmart made snoy bottle packs $14.88
This kind of schizophrenia is precisely why everything gets neutered and made as inoffensive as possible. If it isn't some neurotic being offended by imagined slights, it's a /misc/troon like (You) making shit up to call something le heckin based and shedpilled.
The way copyright should work is that the company has copyright for 20 years inherently. After that they can maintain it for up to 60 years if they release a major product involving it every decade. So if you can put out a major Mario game each decade, cool, you get to keep Mario. But if you look at something like rudolf the red nosed reindeer, they haven't done shit with that in decades so why the frick should they still own that?
If I remember correctly, you can use all elements of the Steamboat Willie design, you just can't call him Mickey Mouse, and he can't have red pants because the red pants poster was made a year after the cartoon, so we gotta wait until 2025 for red pants Mick Mouse
You can call him Mickey Mouse. Why couldn't you?
Disney doesn't get any special extra protections here. No one cares about Disney these days. They pissed off too many lawmakers and lost a lot of their protection.
Didn't they just humiliate that republican frontrunner in court?
No.
They ended his career. Last time anyone fricks with Disney.
t. delusional troon
can you people ever stop thinking about muh republicans and democrats like ever?
Disney lobbied and got away with with tampering with copyright law for years and they got away with it because relatively few people knew about it. once the internet was a thing and people were more in tune with these things, it's pretty much universally agreed upon by everyone that Disney got away with a lot of bullshit and they will be hard pressed to ever affect it again because of this.
I like how you singled out that guy but not the guy who said Disney was fricked because they fought desantis
Clueless people like yourself blame Disney for things they didn't have anything to do with.
He's going into incel rage.
>Clueless people like yourself blame Disney for things they didn't have anything to do with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
dumbass
You didn't even read the link you posted, you worthless brainless worm. Because it agrees with what I said.
>it agrees with what I said
didn't you say Disney had nothing to do with that law? even though that article states that they lobbied for years and heavily supported that bill?
And the actual reason it was adopted was to harmonize with the EU. Just because they benefitted from it doesn't mean they made it happen. God, you people are getting dumber by the hour.
you said they had nothing to do with it
that article states that they lobbied for many years to get copyright periods lengthened, this bill lengthened it, and they supported it
And the actual reason it was adopted was to harmonize with the EU. Just because they benefitted from it doesn't mean they made it happen. God, you people are getting dumber by the minute.
>it doesn't mean they made it happen
again, you SAID that they didn't have anything to do with it
>Clueless people like yourself blame Disney for things they didn't have anything to do with.
and the article states that Disney lobbied for years to get copyright extended, which this bill did, and why they supported it
you do know what lobbying is, right, anon?
Don't bother with bootlickers
You're the most naive guy in the world.
Democracy is the elites' favorite system of government because:
1. it allows them to remove presidents, parties, etc., that they don't support, without the need for a coup
2. it allows the elite to mold policies according to their will (while the people remain pacified thinking that their will is being done).
>moron goes on about his fascism fantasy
cool. Pretty irrelevant.
2 Also happens in all non-democratic systems.
I'd say you're the most naive guy in the world for actually taking a politician's words at face value about a bill that was heavily lobbied for by a giant media corporation.
>N-NO! YOU CAN'T DO THIS! D-DISNEY WILL STOP IT
t. morons on a mongolian basket weaving forum who think they somehow know more than the various projects lawyers do.
I will now make a mickey mouse weg game featuring hot futa sex
Even though disney butchered and capitalised on mickey after the death of walt, i don't think this will ever revive mickey mouse ever, most people just make d grade horror slop or parody, i truly think that no work of an artist should be capitalised after their death
A big reason they do this horror shit (besides low budget) is that it's pretty much impossible for Disney to sue and state that despite public domain, people would be confused and think it was a disney product. Making it low budget horror shit makes it impossible to mistake it for an actual disney product.
>NOOOOO WHY WONT SOMEONE CARE ABOUT THE DIGNITY OF MICKEY HECKIN MOUSE?
what is wrong with you people? Are you getting paid?
This happened with Pooh, too. I actually think the idea of public domain will get stamped out by 2050. Companies are doing a good job convincing morons that copyright should be eternal so as to prevent....some dude making a cheap movie.
if disney couldn't make it happen for mickey I think we are good honestly.
The strategy doesn't work until more and more happens. We are only just now getting these big name IPs into public domain. It wasn't possible for disney to use this strategy before.
it used to be 20 years, now it's 100 and most people fully recognize that 100 is way too long. a couple of shills and fanboys on the internet is not indicative of public opinion.
They could just put kingdom hearts mickey in anyway
I'd be surprised if Mickey wasn't added to Multiversus
copyright laws aren't the same for the rest of the world.
sure, in some it expires sooner than the US - but in others you can renew it indefinitely. Have fun getting sued.
Reminder Blood and Honey wasn't even an American film.
OG Winnie is from the country the movie was produced in.
And? They didn't try making anything until the US law happened.
Disney is a US company.
>They didn't try making anything until the US law happened
Yeah, because they couldn't release it in the biggest market if they wanted to use Disney's version. The movie was only made for that reason, no one was stopping them to make a Winnie horror movie if they wanted to, just look at how many Pinocchio or Peter Pan's movies are produced.
What is with the current obsession with indians? Is it just a race that you don't have to worry about GR3 over? Street shitting pajeet memes were tired and worn out a decade ago, yet you kids keep repeating it to the point you pre-emptively call everyone an indian as soon as you open a thread as if it were a brand new meme.
India is actually rising up so that means people need to start shitting on them (lol) more.
Imagine fabricating a scenario in your head to justify your own repetitive brainrot. I wonder if people like you ever self-reflect and realize you're acting like robots, repeating inserted programming ad nauseum until the next update comes in. Ironically, you're the types that always prattle on about "NPCs".
That's only slightly less old than the rest of the india memes, and even more cancerous for it.
I am sorry you are so angry, genuinely. I hope one day things improve in your life so that you stop literally shitting yourself in anger about internet jokes.
Also Only read the first sentence since it was clear you're raging and now have nothing of worth to state. Bye.
Ganker posters are mentally ill, what else is new... this shouldn't come as a surprise to you at this point
I miss "DO NOT REDEEM" That was actually really funny.
le "sir" and le "street shit" are unfunny. Bring back DO NOT REDEEM
Are you moronic? I see "Hello sir/madams" "YOU BLOODY" "DO NOT REDEEM" ect. all the time, people didn't forget these memes and still use them
good morning sirs is better than all of them
It's never been gone. You're probably Imdian and can only justify laughing at Indian scammers instead of the nation as a whole.
I never see it. It's just "GOOD MORNING SARS" because some moron was obsessed over star citizen. I hope you'll prove me wrong by using the meme more. I would bet legit money you won't.
Copyright laws seems convoluted as hell. Like let’s say when Batman becomes public domain, I’m only allowed to use his initial iteration. If I make a comic about Batman doing X, and it turns out that DC had a similar story released 40 years ago that I wasn’t aware of, I could get sued.
Lets have it right, Scrouge Mcduck is not only the most chad disney character with the most wealth and character depth but also has the best disney game and the best disney comic (Life and times)
>Here's ten grand. Now, on your knees
Would you, Ganker?
10 grand is 10 grand
Depends, does he have a human penis or a crazy corkscrew duck penis?
If Disney adopted this character instead of McDuck, would you like Disney again
Don Rosa is the worst person on the planet.
>life and times
obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWwSVOo5K_k
>No Life and times adaptation
Disney are sitting on fricking GOLD and they won't do it, the absolute cowards, fricking censor your masterpiece, what absolute c**ts
>but also has the best disney game
Christ, I hate burgoids' obsession with NES shit.
Sorry you guys got stuck with shitty sega games, euro-anon
The good news is that through the power of emulation you can finally play good games
Quackshot was better
>Disney takes some guys property and vastly changes the intent and meaning of the story so as to make it family friendly
>This is ok
>Someone takes one of Disney's properties and vastly changes the intent and meaning so it's not family friendly
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOO! THINK ABOUT THE HECKIN MOUSEY WOUSEY!"
The best you'll get is some no-name fantasy JRPG with a mouse character named Mickey Mouse.
>hey this mickey mouse character borrows these extremely generic character traits from a cartoon released 4 years after Steamboat Willie therefore it's copyright infringement until 2028
This is actually those who owned the Sherlock Holmes copyright prevented license-less adaptations of the character by claiming that certain plot points were borrowed by the last Sherlock Holmes stories, which includes Ace Attorney Origins and it's the reason they changed his name to Herlock Sholmes.
Seems like a waste since by the time you actually got to court, you'd be at 2028. Court cases are slow.
Only thing Disney would need to do to ruin Steamboat Willie-based works is sue the creators for some vague difficult to disprove reasons and force them to spends ungodly amounts of money on lawyers until they go bankrupt. That's a well documented strategy even Sony has used to shut down a commercial Playstation emulator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem!#Sony_lawsuit
Way likelier to get thrown out for frivolity between Disney's low public relations and the fact that they'd be suing over things they don't hold the copyright for now. Do it more than a few times and they'd get restrictions or complete disbarment from even being able to make such lawsuits
I'm working on a Steamboat Willie game where you drive around the Mediterranean and Mickey blows holes in refugee rafts and NGO boats
nothing https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/mickey/
Here’s a Mickey Smash Render
ai containment board when
You have to right "no copywrite intended" on your store page or eose mickey will come out of your mirror and drag you to hell
free = worthless
they develop their own IP they can milk
it shouldn't be hard to understand
Thats why the are "remastering" every fricking IP they have?
Betty Boop (who's cartoons inspired the anime OGs) is 2 years out.
Anyone wanna turn Mickey into a hate symbol or is only /misc/ allowed to do it?
Fantasia is going public domain un the next decade alongside a bunch of superheroes. That movie has what's pretty much the iconic look of Mickey.
the KH2 steamboat world was kino
from the color choices to the muffled sounds to the redesign of Sora Donald and Goofy
KH will never be that soulful again
Timeless River... home...
>there will never be this much soul in any video game ever again, not even in KH itself
LOL
>WHAT THE FRICK??? WHY IS THERE 88 IN THE NAME???
>"the game takes place in 1988"
>WELL WHY IS THERE A FOURTEEN LETTER WORD NEXT TO IT???
>"because that's the word we used, there's monsters infesting the run down buildings"
>UHHH... 1-4 PLAYER CO-OP??? 14??? 14 WITH THE TITLE 88???
>"are you mentally moronic or do you not know what co-op games are"
>FRICK YOU NAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Real or not, I must admit that the coincidences are kinda funny.
1-4 player co-op is a nonsense phrase, how could you have 1 player coop
you probably never seen a boardgame box
you would be incredibly surprised at how many morons used the "1-4 player co-op" line as an argument
these are the same people who call you a schizo for noticing racemixing and raceswapping and black and female characters in games.
I think the funniest part is that if you wanted to make a parody of Disney, You could just straight up make the CEO of the company Mickey Mouse.
south park did this years ago, copyright means nothing when it comes to parody
>copyright means nothing when it comes to parody
claiming fair use is not a magical shield against lawsuits. only a judge can decide if it holds. hence you're risking a lawsuit every day.
its literally fair use when it comes to parody you moron
tell that to the lawyers.
the reality is you're guilty of infringement until proven innocent.
show me a single case where the owner of the IP won against parody
haven't you seen the endless parodies like youtube poops and Downfall parodies taken down with DMCA notices?
>youtube takedown = law
you have to be 18 to post here
Viacom ALMOST won, had they not accidentally used YouTube themselves for marketing
>Burgerstanis had to wait a hundred years
>Meanwhile mouse was always in the public domain for chinks
lol
Shit like Mickey, Superman, Bugs etc is not the same as Dracula, Zombies, Frankenstein etc or something like Lovecraft and Fairy Tales
They are too heavily brand associated with the company that made them, it would be one thing if said companies were long gone but they aren't
bwo, santa claus it coca cola mascot and nobody had a problem when it became public domain
I really don't care about the mouse.
mickey mousecapades 2 when
Can't wait for Scooby-Doo
You will wait 41 years and you will be unhappy
How much time for Superman?
9 years
>copyright us made illegal
>every single movie studio starts making mcu clones because it made the most money
>this is what people want
lmao. imagine thinking companies will make new shit when they will really just pump out 50 batmans a year
>people will stop make new shit
Classic moronic capitalist take, yeah, no one is going to want the money and construct a NotMcDonald and sell fricking fries and burger if you increase taxe and McDonald run away in fear.
They should add him to multiversus.
I want to frick Daisy.
copyleft > public domain
all derivatives of public works MUST be public too. this will prevent anybody profiting and trademarking from alterations or public property
Pretty much nothing. Only tiff is that I don't think Steam Boat Willy has any marketing appeal on its own it's just something Disney put so much money behind as a spearhead for their projects.
The fact that no one really gives a shit about Mickey. He's iconic but also the most personalityless of the main OG disney gang. How long until Goofy and Donald are public domain?
Also reminder that if we stuck with the original copyright law everything before 1996 would be public domain right now.
First appearance of Donald was 1934
First appearance of Goofy was 1932 as Dippy Dog, 1934 as Goofy.
5 years and the OG gang plus more Mickey shorts will be Public Domain
Why would I care about this shit after all the fanart and parodies of this character? Because you can now make money off of him now? What a non story and non thread.