>Play, as is being activated during a duel
There are cards that recycle other cards from your graveyard, such as The Warrior Returned Alive or Monster Reincarnation. >play as in multiple copies
Any card that is not limited by list of forbidden cards can be in the same deck in quantities of up to 3. If your cognitive ability to count is described as "1, 2, many", then this is your fault.
Maxx C is a card you can play from hand that draws you a card whenever your opponent special summons a monster. Since most of modern YGH is about putting your deck into your graveyard for easier summoning/targeting and constantly bouncing special summons to get your extra deck monsters out, this is usually a deterrant because if your opponent doesn't win in one turn, they've just given you a bunch of free cards and you're at a huge advantage. But if you just keep bouncing cards and special summoning, you can technically just deck out your opponent and make them take fatigue damage, which is what happens.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I don't get it. The game's dead.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Decking someone out is a strat, even if it's usually pretty niche, in almost every card game. That's basically all that happens here.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Don't worry. It's banned in every sane format, so you don't need to understand.
4 months ago
Anonymous
tl;dr
either you play your whole deck in one turn and win or your opponent plays his whole deck in second turn and wins
Lol the game has only gotten MORE power creeped the longer it goes.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Well yeah, but Maxx C and Level Eater, the two cards that cause this specific interaction, are both banned in the english speaking world. And Level Eater is banned in every format.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Errrm actually the specific cards used to vomit your entire deck and win the game in 1 turn from that webm are already banned! >Sure there's still 999,998 OTHER cards currently still legal that can achieve the same results and more, but those 2 are banned though!
4 months ago
Anonymous
you can be both technically correct and a moronic homosexual at the same time, anon.
It's true that yugioh is a busted game with stupid combos, but trying to "prove" that by posting an illegal play with banned cards is moronic and also gay
4 months ago
Anonymous
Your post had two components anon. >a lot of these cards are banned
Which may be true, but >so this can't be done in a real game
Is blatantly false. Which specific card enables all this infinite engine turn 1 win style gameplay doesn't matter, you can still do it through countless other means.
4 months ago
Anonymous
If that's the case then Yugioh has been busted deck vomit from the word go. The first format was an Exodia FTK format and Magical Scientist burn wasn't long after. Yes there are lots of huge combo decks but synchrons as a strategy haven't been good in ages. And realistically modern combo decks actually play pretty low to the ground. See something like Vanquish Soul that only summons a few times a turn but wins through constant searching and destruction. This kind of "WOOOOOWWWW THE OPPONENT JUST COMBOS FOREVER I'M NOT EVEN PRESSING BUTTONS" complaints are better leveled at 2018-era Yugioh which was dominated by Firewall Dragon FTKs (No longer legal either).
if you showed this to school children back in '07 they would call you a cheater and a crazy dude, now even the pot of greed meme seems more logic than this
i've never been a Yugi-Oh fan but i imagine playing this IRL is just a huge cringefest of dorks arguing what activated what in which sequence. the rules of the game seem very incoherent to me
>Playing with people irl there’s always an argument over negating and destroying a card.
What the frick no there's not. One of the very first things a player learns is that negating is not destroying.
Nope. Nobody, in the decades since the game has first came out, in the billions of duels that have been played in both physical cardboard and video game emulations of the game, has ever managed to get Exodia turn one.
Before they were limited the chance of a turn 1 win was .037% if you had 3 of each part in your 40 card deck (1 in 2708).
Now the chance is .00015% (1 in 658000)
How can the chances be changed when you need one of each card anyway? If you draw an entire hand of exodia pieces and it’s dupes that might as well be different cards to begin with. Think you need to recheck your math
Because drawing 1 red marble from a bag containing 3 red marbles and 3 blue ones is easier than drawing 1 red marble from a bag containing 1 red marble and 5 blue ones.
Nope. Nobody, in the decades since the game has first came out, in the billions of duels that have been played in both physical cardboard and video game emulations of the game, has ever managed to get Exodia turn one.
I did it once waaay back in the day, back in high school a little after the game came out. >Be me >Make weird decks >Like a stable beatdown deck, except I also randomly added in Exodia with no support for it. >Worked surprisingly well. >If I drew less pieces, my deck had good flow. >If I drew more, I had less flow, but that also meant a good chance to stall long enough to draw into the 5th piece. >In cases where I was stuck in the middle, I could just chunk a leg out or something and stall for time >Ran into other guy I knew from high school at the local card shop >He never once in his life beat me. >We play. >Beat him round 1. >"Good game man. Hey, mind if I look through your deck?" >Sure. >He starts going through it. >Smile is slowly wiped off his face in real time >Gets towards the end >"Aw HELL naw, I did NOT just get beat by this piece of trash. WE GOIN' AGAIN RIGHT NOW." >Play him again. >This is the closest he's ever gotten. I'm literally 1 attack away. >Draw into the last piece >"MOTHER FUC-AGAIN!" >Shuffle >He cuts >Draw first five >"...Exodia." >He just gets up >Leaves >Never see him again, not even at school.
Cheaters used to do that in online matches in the first WTC game on the DS. Don't know how they got their dopamine rush in not even playing the game but it was pretty common.
>If you have "Right Leg of the Forbidden One", "Left Leg of the Forbidden One", "Right Arm of the Forbidden One" and "Left Arm of the Forbidden One" in addition to Exodia the Forbidden One in your hand, you win the Duel.
How many alternative win conditions does YuGiOh have? I know Exodia obviously, and I think one of the God Cards has one but I don't know jack shit past GX because I stopped giving a shit. Did they add any more?
>If only your opponent controls a monster: Declare "The Winning Formula is complete!"; Special Summon 1 "Number" Xyz Monster from your Extra Deck, except a "Number C" monster, then attach this card to it as material. >At the start of your Draw Phase, if your LP are lower than your opponent's and this card is in the GY because it was destroyed, while in your possession, by an opponent's card and sent there since your last Draw Phase: You can declare "I'm feeling the flow!"; place 1 card from your Deck on top of your Deck. >By shouting "ZEXAL Field!", this card allows a "Number C39" monster you control to attack directly for one turn. If you have previously activated the effects of "Winning Formula" and "Creator of Hope" during that Duel, and if it successfully inflicts battle damage during that direct attack, you win the Duel.
This is actually fricking kino, what killjoy made this illegal?
The idea is to give it to your opponent. Obviously a terrible way to win the game but still possible.
Or also you know, just lose the game in a funny way.
Winged Elephant has an alt win condition, and it's actually the card that Pegasus talks that kid through kicking Bandit Keith's ass with in the original show. Not at all good, though, even in speed duels with smaller deck size.
I love how this dude was so irrelevant he didn't have a name.
Even Johnny Steps had a name.
His name is technically Seeker in one of the games, but that's also generic enough to be a title. He happens to be the only one that goes by that name, though, so close enough.
a lot
they had one where if you kill the opponent with a certain monster you win the set rather than just the game
but because you can concede at any time (even just before the attack hits u after they declare it) people get really upset
I dunno if I'd call it a 'counterpart' but yeah, Xbox got a YGO game. It was a big deal at first because it was the first game to have 3D models for all the monster cards. But it ended up being kinda lame because those 3D models don't really do anything except stand there.
It has the best music, the second best playmat layout, the best 3d graphics for monsters but
unlocking 3 shitty cards per duel and 5 by dueling 3 cheaters in a row with the same lifepoints is pure bullshit
You wouldn't deck out, you can't activate pot of greed with only 1 card left in deck. The game requires you to be able to both pay cost and resolve effects in order to activate cards. This also has some odd interactions, like how you can't activate Pot of Avarice with only 1 card left in deck, despite the fact that the card returns 5 cards from graveyard to deck before drawing.
interdasting
so yeah, if you most likely lose if you bottom deck a piece. At least I assume modern yugioh decks should be able to do a full life total when completely unopposed
99% of decks, yeah, assuming they haven't bricked. Some decks can even set up combos on turn 1 that would destroy this strategy, like there are decks that can ensure this card is set on turn 1, and they would just flip it immediately before you could activate any spells.
You still win next turn when you draw the last piece, you lose on trying to draw without anything in deck not on having an empty deck.
Or maybe I am getting Yu-Gi-Oh confused with mtg
>konami produces card >card is considered too powerful >too lazy to balance game >ban card >money stolen
and there are yugiho players that will defend this.
Every card game does this and it's unironically a good thing. A Magic the Gathering designer put it best; if you never make a card that's worth banning you also never take the kind of design risks that are necessary to create interesting cards.
it was probably more broken then than now tbh. At a single copy it’s not like it would make or break any FTKs and all the modern meta decks are mega consistent anyways, while older formats your resources (in hand) matter more than some sort of limited engine resource and resolving one of the FUN cards could instantly swing the game in your favor
4 months ago
Anonymous
goddamn it, you make a good point, i hate this game
If it weren't an interesting card it wouldn't be the subject of a thread.
frick you, just for the sake of it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah and it's not like there aren't situational pots that, while generally worse, still do what you want and aren't breaking the game. Actually I lied ban prosp thank you, also desires just because it is rigged against me.
4 months ago
Anonymous
If it werent an interesting card you wouldnt have gotten owned so hard holy shit lmao
That's intentional.
They make bullshit cards, let them stomp for a bit, then ban them and make more bullshit cards, let them stomp for a bit, then ban them.
If they're feeling sneaky they will make bullshit cards that require old shit cards to stomp and then ban the old shit cards to achieve the same effect without it being blatantly obvious they're just money hungry israelites.
Every card game does this and it's unironically a good thing. A Magic the Gathering designer put it best; if you never make a card that's worth banning you also never take the kind of design risks that are necessary to create interesting cards.
>too lazy to balance game
LOL, LMAO, even.
No they print broken shit on purpose to make more money, then since the shit they made is too good, they straight up ban it since they can't print erratas every other month.
See tear, see ishizu, see bystials etc etc etc
Using Pot of Greed, you couldn't lose by deck out until your next draw phase or you were forced to draw a card by the opponent, so it wouldn't be turn 1. You can't activate Pot of Greed if you don't have at least two cards left in your deck.
>Toon world
No, but it did have a stint of playability. Against some decks Toon Kingdom is a huge b***h though. >Blue Eyes
The deck won Worlds in 2016 but has largely been left behind. It still sees some play as a rogue strategy. >Dark Magician
Not as bad as toons but still a rogue strategy at best. Has gotten some really unbelievable modern support but having to actually play The Dark Magician as your central card hurts it. Can set up a pseudo-lock with Eternal Soul (Prevents cards named Dark Magician from being effected by other cards) and Dark Magician the Dragon Knight (Prevents spell/trap cards from being destroyed, is Dark Magician).
Believe it or not Konami constantly releases new cards for boomer strategies. Gate Guardian and Flame Swordsman just got modern support, and the official simulator has Dark Magician and Blue Eyes structure decks.
Dark magician has some of the most custom fricking cards ever printed and it still sucks because a lot of their game plan requires multi-part set up for soul + circle.
Yup. The worst thing about Dark Magician is that you have to play Dark Magician. And more than that your whole strategy revolves around searching and repeatedly summoning a level 7 normal monster. Just look at how SPYRAL abuses Magician's Souls to see how these cards would look like in a competent strategy.
That seems like the least confusing thing there would be. I don't know how you would do resources, or a lack thereof, since yugioh doesn't have any mana system letting modern decks just set up turn 1 fairly consistently. Even a pretty mediocre deck can off a single card make a gigantic body that will one shot you on their first turn.
>match starts >regardless of whos turn it is, Yugioh player reveals a hand-trap that does burn damage >instantly wins
it would just be like the Master Duel 2024 event.
If the yugioh player bricks hard then the magic player could potentially pull off an infinite damage combo and win, though. Only really viable if it's a no ban list game however
That's easy.
Every 400 damage is the equivalent to 1 damage in Magic.
Since 8000 divided by 400 is 20.
Then all you have to do is just round anything not divisible by 400 to the nearest whole number.
Blue-Eyes gets rounded to being the equivalent to being an 8/6.
>match starts >regardless of whos turn it is, Yugioh player reveals a hand-trap that does burn damage >instantly wins
it would just be like the Master Duel 2024 event.
If the yugioh player bricks hard then the magic player could potentially pull off an infinite damage combo and win, though. Only really viable if it's a no ban list game however
If you scaled the life/damage numbers to match up, it's either the YGO player goes first and has a turn 1 win, or the MTG player gets a land down and it's GG since MTG is so disruptive and reactive.
If we're including boomer mtg then they won't even need the land.
>since MTG is so disruptive and reactive
homie they have one mana on turn one. Unless they drew every Force of Will in their deck their turn one disruptions are going to be no worse than an ash blossom or barron de fluer.
Any modern yugioh deck can play through any one piece getting negated or banished or flickered or destroyed.
The problem here is that any interruption you're imaging a Magic deck can do after one turn of setup, a yugioh deck could also do but like five times instead of just the once, MAYBE twice the magic deck could pull off.
Really, the only hope the magic deck has at all is if it's a no ban list battle and they just do an infinite damage combo on turn one using black lotus. Otherwise mana is just too hard of a limit.
Fundamentally, Magic is a game where you start weak and get stronger and Yugioh is a game where you're as strong as you'll ever be on turn one.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Can't beat chalice on 0 your cards are all CMC 0.
4 months ago
Anonymous
If you're going to logically interpret the rules as they're written beyond their intended scope, like by treating Yugioh cards as CMC 0, then you should also only be considering spell cards as being spells. Yugioh monster summoning and monster effects are NOT spells so they wouldn't be limited by most magic floodgates.
On a core thematic level, Magic's setting is that the "cards" represent "magical spells you use to summon a monster" but yugioh cards literally represent the actual monster itself. They're not spells, they're just monsters.
So, Chalice would just be equivalent to Imperial Order. An annoying floodgate but not unbeatable.
>magic player has 20 hp >average yugioh card deals damage in the thousands
it wouldnt be impossible, but from my general knowledge of yugioh players as a magic player, I think they would quickly turn violent out of frustration because magic is a shit game made to piss you off.
>Yugioh player goes first >Sets up the equivalent of 4 Counterspells and puts about 10,000 damage on board >Magic player places a normal land and casts Orkish Bowmasters >Since every Magic creature is a spell, the Yugioh player just counters it >Attacks for lethal next turn
>Be 2009-2013 >Be me >Buy Arcana force deck >Carry around a half dollar coin just for it >loudly let coin clatter every fricking turn, multiple times a turn >watch them slowly melt down as my turns become longer and longer with more coin flips >play not to win but to stall them and maximize coin flips
Well if it's the unlimited format of both games then I think Yugioh still takes it just because the strongest ever deck from Yugioh can actually semi-consistently resist FTKs going second.
Lab Man hasn't seen even a smidgen of play ever since they printed Thoracle, what a fricking mistake that card was >what if lab man except cheaper and also impossible to respond to and also wins the game on the spot instead of needing to untap
Pretty much sums up all card design since BfZ
you could make a lot of money if you robbed the right people, but remember that TCG players are pretty special. the dudes that taught me magic back innaday who I played with almost daily for a few years, were also unassuming, drug dealing thugs who've hurt people for less.
>tfw all of my RL nerdy friends from my high school days were heavily into either MTG or yugioh >I still haven't got a lick of sense on how the fricking game works despite knowing about it for nearly my entire life and watching the first four series on 4kidz when I was a kid
Unless it got a new translation the fan translation of V special is really fricking bad. The type of shit fanslation that's filled with dog shit memes.
Actually I have played Tag Force but I guess I never got far enough to realize there is dating in it?
Tag Force games usually have a few routes with vague or explicit romantic undertones, but there's never been a true Yugioh dating sim unfortunately. Konami isn't brave enough to go through with it.
the more interesting question is how would (Yami) Yugi stop this? Assume it's a KC-run tournament and Kaiba is fully aware but interested in seeing how it plays out so no DQ saving him
What're some of your favourite 'bad' cards?
I liked Dark Magician... not all his support, just the Dark Magician, even if Summoned Skull is just better.
Some homosexual made this exact deck in Master Duel. Except it used a few Graceful Charity in place of some Pots.
As typical, Konami's security is shit.
All those chuds that complain about yugioh being too hard is because THEY JUST RELY ON "HEART OF THE CARDS" schizo shit when it's suppose to be ABOUT STRATEGY AND MANAGING PROBABILITIES.
Here is the cold, hard truth about trading card games:
TCG's are legitimated only fun when played in video game form against CPU's, and I'm being 100% serious.
That's the only way you'll be able to play the TCG with non-meta decks that use interesting strategies.
Specifically for YGO, I haven't played it in a long time and seeing all the new shit and strategies where you can OTKO is annoying. People don't really play for fun, either, they play to win, even if it's just an online game with no ranking. It's just not fun. Every deck has near the same cards Maxx C or wahtever being one of them. It's hard to find people who just want to play strategies that you don't really see.
If you want people playing unusual decks you have to go to DL, and even there people only play shit other than the latest metaslop because it's so expensive to build a new deck. I guarantee you if you could build a new deck there as easy as you can in MD people would just play the meta.
Used to play MTG in high school, super casual most of us just bought fat packs and played with those. Couple people got the idea to start buying decks online, spending anywhere from $30-50 so it wasn't too bad. Then one dickhead bought some $300 eldrazi deck that was nearly impossible to beat with our trash, everyone quit in 2 days.
I actually somewhat agree with this because the amount of actual time it takes for someone to go through combo lines in Yugioh is fricking moronic and boring.
>they play their starter card >proceed to do literally the exact same identical combo line the deck always does for the next five minutes ending on the same endboard the deck always end on
I can only stand to sit through this shit so many times.
I play Yu-Gi-Oh!, Dragon Ball Super, and Shadowverse Evolve with three different friends and it's always a good time. Then again, none of them frick around with meta decks.
I agree but I would even apply that to all multiplayer games, because otherwise you're an the mercy of a matchmaking algorithm, the infinite treadmill. Bots in singleplayer feel better to beat because you're making your way through the content of the game with an end goal in sight.
Although it is possible to make a game with an infinite treadmill of bots, and it would be as shit as meaningless as multiplayer I'm sure. Anyone who spends 5000 hours playing a matchmaking algorithm is a moron. (why didn't you just divide that 5000 hours amongst 500 unique video games?)
Drawing is always incredibly powerful in card games.
For free, this card basically shrinks your deck down to 37 cards instead of 40, increasing consistency and bringing you closer to your kill conditions. It gives you 2 turns worth of additional options over your opponent. It makes you more handsome too.
The real reason Konami limits draw cards so much but is happy to print archetype searchers that go insanely plus is because they're scared of Exodia being meta. Turn one kill decks being viable is worst case scenario. Three pot of greed would make Exodia FTK way too consistent.
yeah, but they're not consistent through hand traps. Otherwise they would be winning every YCS, and they're not. There's a reason all the Exodia pieces are on the limited list.
Pot of Greed only makes unplayable hands playable and Good Hands better.
Either an avoidance of scooping/sitting there while your opponent combos off while you can't do anything or a "win more" card. It is legitimately not the gamebreaking card people think it is.
Anybody who says otherwise is probably just a Youtuber or a Youtuber sheep.
Pot of greed at 1 would be fine. It doesn't and shouldn't come back as it wouldn't make the game better for it but it wouldn't really break shit further either. Frankly prosperity is better anyway if you can't run more than 1 greed. Digging 6 deep and getting your one card combo or the perfect out is way more valuable than just 2 unknown cards in the modern game.
>Play Digimon card game >Dude has a deck with a card that says "you may have 50 copies of this card in your deck inatead of the 3-limit" >His deck is actually 40 fricking copies and the other 10 allow you to play these which combo themselves into playing more >20 fricking cards on his area by turn 2
Yeah that one, and it's super hard to brick because everything makes you draw cards and you really need just 1 of the 10 cards to start the chain.
1 thing I dislike about Digimon is that the way you win is anticlimactic, just attack directly when the opponent has no shields, and you're always allowed to attack directly regardless of how strong the digimon is, so you spawn a million weak mons and have them die attacking instead of evolving into the cool huge ones you DNA combine and stuff.
1. you have to open both cooclock and furniture (or one of them plus Arianne)
2. the current top decks love having their cards destroyed
3. T1 Lovely plays are absurdly vulnerable to Ash Blossom. Good job going -2 to end up with a 0/0 dumbass.
>2 card combo that dies to ash, imperm, and several other hand traps leaving you negative >most modern meta decks love having half their deck in the grave anyway, so it's a crapshoot if it doesn't backfire
The rules already say no more than 3 of any 1 card and pot of greed is completely banned on top of that, as an aside you are also restricted to one of each piece of exodia
This. Playground yugioh was never real and this concept that the game was so much better when it was set Man Eater Bug pass is just moronic. There's almost no reason to play Yugioh over Magic until 2008, and Yugioh having a ton of complex combos is what makes it unique. In a world where every other card game is 3 turns of land pass, Yugioh is all gas from the word go.
Just like any long running game, people who say they miss "old Yugioh" actually just mean they miss playing games with random pile decks and not knowing what was good
Just play Legacy of the Duelist Link Evolution. It's a singleplayer sim that lets you open packs and play through duels from the anime. PROTIP: Use cheat engine to speedhack the game, it's kinda slow otherwise.
your opening hand leaves the deck with an odd number of cards, so if you have one piece on the exact bottom you'll run out as you draw the last piece. Pretty sure that's a loss.
>want to play Yu-Gi-Oh! irl with irl cards >can't >reason: Solid Vision Dueling System does not exist >have both eyes >not rich >not even fabulous >never even been to ancient egypt >can't ask some punk ass rich kid to make Solid Vision a reality literally because of this >no Yugi boy to challenge to a duel either >only choice is to wait for a Yu-Gi-Oh! VR Dueling Game
I can't go back from Master Duel. It's insane to me how sterile and unsatisfying the UI for previous YuGiOh games looked. We really decided this was a good enough way to look at the game
Limits on the amount of cards. You could make an Exodia deck that is nothing but drawing cards via Royal Magical Library, but it would be hard to pull off in the current meta. It is also time consuming.
>drawing exodia deck
LAMEEE
If you want an actual funny OP deck in unlimited format try >anime Relay Soul + Majespecter Kirin
Anime relay soul states: You CANNOT lose the duel unless the monster summoned is destroyed, not if it leaves the field >kirin bounces to hand >opponent must destroy that specific copy in your hand >no matter what your opponent can't win because if they did it means you would lose which you can't do
Or >anime Drawber + D Hero Dark Angel
Anime dark angel puts itself on top of your opponents deck, Drawber makes your opponent shuffle all of their cards if you correctly guess the card on top of their deck
This is where all of your shitposters miss the mark. I play Yugioh BECAUSE it's broken and stupid as shit, not in spite of it. Posts like these are like telling an MvC2 player that they should pick up Samurai Shodown to get rid of all the pesky infinites
Someone actually tried this, made their hand as grody as possible and then played Yu-Jo so the opponent would either have to shake their hand or forfeit. Konami declared that you only have to agree to the "idea of the handshake" and that's the official ruling now.
Absolutely nothing
You can only play 3 copies of any card.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE RULES!
Bandit Keith tried this shit in the manga and Jonouichi kicked his ass for it. I imagine it'll go similarly in real life
joeynochi couldn't beat 35 PoGs and Exodia
I KNEEL
>
just cheat
Okay, then explain why when I play against others I see multiples of the same card being played over and over and over again after I draw 1 card?
They're probably finding ways to shuffle used cards back into the deck and then draw them again on the same turn.
>Play, as is being activated during a duel
There are cards that recycle other cards from your graveyard, such as The Warrior Returned Alive or Monster Reincarnation.
>play as in multiple copies
Any card that is not limited by list of forbidden cards can be in the same deck in quantities of up to 3. If your cognitive ability to count is described as "1, 2, many", then this is your fault.
>THAT'S WHAT IT DO
I SUMMON POT OF GREED
screw the rules I have money
okay? who's going to stop me?
Me.
what is this it looks cute
that is "Purrely"
That's such a Tristan thing to say
Make me
MAX 3 COPIES OF A CARD
my fuarking hero
Handtraps are a shitty bandaid for a broken game.
handtraps add more interactivity to duels, elevate deckbuilding, and allow the game's intelectual ceiling to reach much higher
>activate lingering handtrap
>win duel
look mom i intereacted!
Sis? Your drolls lines? Not my fault you decided to play some garbo FTK deck that scoops if your opponent looks at you.
>fun
I don't even know what happened there. Yugioh died when they introduced the motorbikes, frick
Maxx C is a card you can play from hand that draws you a card whenever your opponent special summons a monster. Since most of modern YGH is about putting your deck into your graveyard for easier summoning/targeting and constantly bouncing special summons to get your extra deck monsters out, this is usually a deterrant because if your opponent doesn't win in one turn, they've just given you a bunch of free cards and you're at a huge advantage. But if you just keep bouncing cards and special summoning, you can technically just deck out your opponent and make them take fatigue damage, which is what happens.
I don't get it. The game's dead.
Decking someone out is a strat, even if it's usually pretty niche, in almost every card game. That's basically all that happens here.
Don't worry. It's banned in every sane format, so you don't need to understand.
tl;dr
either you play your whole deck in one turn and win or your opponent plays his whole deck in second turn and wins
a who's who of cards that should be banned forever
good thing a lot of these cards are banned so this can't be done in a real game
yeah instead it'll last 2 whole turns!
Lol the game has only gotten MORE power creeped the longer it goes.
Well yeah, but Maxx C and Level Eater, the two cards that cause this specific interaction, are both banned in the english speaking world. And Level Eater is banned in every format.
>Errrm actually the specific cards used to vomit your entire deck and win the game in 1 turn from that webm are already banned!
>Sure there's still 999,998 OTHER cards currently still legal that can achieve the same results and more, but those 2 are banned though!
you can be both technically correct and a moronic homosexual at the same time, anon.
It's true that yugioh is a busted game with stupid combos, but trying to "prove" that by posting an illegal play with banned cards is moronic and also gay
Your post had two components anon.
>a lot of these cards are banned
Which may be true, but
>so this can't be done in a real game
Is blatantly false. Which specific card enables all this infinite engine turn 1 win style gameplay doesn't matter, you can still do it through countless other means.
If that's the case then Yugioh has been busted deck vomit from the word go. The first format was an Exodia FTK format and Magical Scientist burn wasn't long after. Yes there are lots of huge combo decks but synchrons as a strategy haven't been good in ages. And realistically modern combo decks actually play pretty low to the ground. See something like Vanquish Soul that only summons a few times a turn but wins through constant searching and destruction. This kind of "WOOOOOWWWW THE OPPONENT JUST COMBOS FOREVER I'M NOT EVEN PRESSING BUTTONS" complaints are better leveled at 2018-era Yugioh which was dominated by Firewall Dragon FTKs (No longer legal either).
shifter cl1 maxx c cl2, response?
Tokens were a mistake
The extra deck was an even bigger mistake
>Maxx C
is only playing Maxx C
as real as Santa
Good ol Maxx C challenge.
if you showed this to school children back in '07 they would call you a cheater and a crazy dude, now even the pot of greed meme seems more logic than this
Or players could set traps instead, like they did when the game actually did those things
Too slow for modern yugioh. You need to slow the game down for traps to relevant for a normal deck.
You're right, remove Blue
Just the rules, but anyone who whines about that probably isn't getting laid anyways.
Nothing, don't mind my set card.
MY TURN! I PLAY POT OF GREED TO SUMMON THREE ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK. ROLL MY DICE
Playing with people irl there’s always an argument over negating and destroying a card.
i've never been a Yugi-Oh fan but i imagine playing this IRL is just a huge cringefest of dorks arguing what activated what in which sequence. the rules of the game seem very incoherent to me
Maybe if you bothered to learn the game the rules wouldn't seem incoherent, moron.
>Playing with people irl there’s always an argument over negating and destroying a card.
What the frick no there's not. One of the very first things a player learns is that negating is not destroying.
>5 exodia parts
>cards that look cards
>multiple cards that discard other cards
what stop me?
Some cards only call for specific archetypes and while a mill deck is viable, it's also dangerous.
did anyone ever draw exodia on the first turn?
Nope. Nobody, in the decades since the game has first came out, in the billions of duels that have been played in both physical cardboard and video game emulations of the game, has ever managed to get Exodia turn one.
That's great, then.
I will be the first person in history to do it.
Before they were limited the chance of a turn 1 win was .037% if you had 3 of each part in your 40 card deck (1 in 2708).
Now the chance is .00015% (1 in 658000)
Though this doesn't count the first draw which would make the chance slightly higher if you're not player 1
How can the chances be changed when you need one of each card anyway? If you draw an entire hand of exodia pieces and it’s dupes that might as well be different cards to begin with. Think you need to recheck your math
Because drawing 1 red marble from a bag containing 3 red marbles and 3 blue ones is easier than drawing 1 red marble from a bag containing 1 red marble and 5 blue ones.
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This shit will never not make me laugh. The fact he caught this bullshit on stream is the best.
Come on, anons. How has nobody posted this classic?
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Objectively wrong
I did it once waaay back in the day, back in high school a little after the game came out.
>Be me
>Make weird decks
>Like a stable beatdown deck, except I also randomly added in Exodia with no support for it.
>Worked surprisingly well.
>If I drew less pieces, my deck had good flow.
>If I drew more, I had less flow, but that also meant a good chance to stall long enough to draw into the 5th piece.
>In cases where I was stuck in the middle, I could just chunk a leg out or something and stall for time
>Ran into other guy I knew from high school at the local card shop
>He never once in his life beat me.
>We play.
>Beat him round 1.
>"Good game man. Hey, mind if I look through your deck?"
>Sure.
>He starts going through it.
>Smile is slowly wiped off his face in real time
>Gets towards the end
>"Aw HELL naw, I did NOT just get beat by this piece of trash. WE GOIN' AGAIN RIGHT NOW."
>Play him again.
>This is the closest he's ever gotten. I'm literally 1 attack away.
>Draw into the last piece
>"MOTHER FUC-AGAIN!"
>Shuffle
>He cuts
>Draw first five
>"...Exodia."
>He just gets up
>Leaves
>Never see him again, not even at school.
i did in yugipro or whatever it was called over a decade ago
only 5 cards in main deck, rest extra and side deck. is legal?
If you don't open with at least one Pot of Greed then your hand is full of useless bricks
if he opens without a pot greed he won by default with that deck
Why not just have a deck of just 5 cards then with only the Exodia pieces if you're just going to disregard the rules anyway
It's funnier to have to play 27 pots of greed first to achieve the same thing.
Cheaters used to do that in online matches in the first WTC game on the DS. Don't know how they got their dopamine rush in not even playing the game but it was pretty common.
Pot of Sneed.
it worked so well for him
I love how this dude was so irrelevant he didn't have a name.
Even Johnny Steps had a name.
Yes but what does it do?
>If you have "Right Leg of the Forbidden One", "Left Leg of the Forbidden One", "Right Arm of the Forbidden One" and "Left Arm of the Forbidden One" in addition to Exodia the Forbidden One in your hand, you win the Duel.
I mean the pot.
draws 2 cards
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I see.
>open 4 exodia pieces and a pot
>pot gets ashed
How many alternative win conditions does YuGiOh have? I know Exodia obviously, and I think one of the God Cards has one but I don't know jack shit past GX because I stopped giving a shit. Did they add any more?
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Duel_winner
there're like 20, none of which is competitively viable. some are pretty funny though
>If only your opponent controls a monster: Declare "The Winning Formula is complete!"; Special Summon 1 "Number" Xyz Monster from your Extra Deck, except a "Number C" monster, then attach this card to it as material.
>At the start of your Draw Phase, if your LP are lower than your opponent's and this card is in the GY because it was destroyed, while in your possession, by an opponent's card and sent there since your last Draw Phase: You can declare "I'm feeling the flow!"; place 1 card from your Deck on top of your Deck.
>By shouting "ZEXAL Field!", this card allows a "Number C39" monster you control to attack directly for one turn. If you have previously activated the effects of "Winning Formula" and "Creator of Hope" during that Duel, and if it successfully inflicts battle damage during that direct attack, you win the Duel.
This is actually fricking kino, what killjoy made this illegal?
>By shouting "SEXUAL field"
Exodia is competitively viable. Someone won a YCS recently with Exodia turbo
>True Exodia
>If you control this monster and 4 other "Forbidden One" monsters, your opponent wins.
The idea is to give it to your opponent. Obviously a terrible way to win the game but still possible.
Or also you know, just lose the game in a funny way.
Winged Elephant has an alt win condition, and it's actually the card that Pegasus talks that kid through kicking Bandit Keith's ass with in the original show. Not at all good, though, even in speed duels with smaller deck size.
His name is technically Seeker in one of the games, but that's also generic enough to be a title. He happens to be the only one that goes by that name, though, so close enough.
a lot
they had one where if you kill the opponent with a certain monster you win the set rather than just the game
but because you can concede at any time (even just before the attack hits u after they declare it) people get really upset
>opening hand
>draw five exodia pieces
>didn't draw the all-important pot of greed
>deck bricked
BRAVO
Best YuGiOh game btw
>Xbox got a counterpart to DotR and FK
I guess I never noticed since the game itself is just regular duel monsters.
I dunno if I'd call it a 'counterpart' but yeah, Xbox got a YGO game. It was a big deal at first because it was the first game to have 3D models for all the monster cards. But it ended up being kinda lame because those 3D models don't really do anything except stand there.
I'm basing it on that amazing composer. Forbidden Memories and the 6th gen titles share a lot of music so I lump them together.
It has the best music, the second best playmat layout, the best 3d graphics for monsters but
unlocking 3 shitty cards per duel and 5 by dueling 3 cheaters in a row with the same lifepoints is pure bullshit
if you go first you have 35 cards left in your deck, and if the bottom one is part of exodia you lose from deck out before exodia goes off I think.
You wouldn't deck out, you can't activate pot of greed with only 1 card left in deck. The game requires you to be able to both pay cost and resolve effects in order to activate cards. This also has some odd interactions, like how you can't activate Pot of Avarice with only 1 card left in deck, despite the fact that the card returns 5 cards from graveyard to deck before drawing.
interdasting
so yeah, if you most likely lose if you bottom deck a piece. At least I assume modern yugioh decks should be able to do a full life total when completely unopposed
99% of decks, yeah, assuming they haven't bricked. Some decks can even set up combos on turn 1 that would destroy this strategy, like there are decks that can ensure this card is set on turn 1, and they would just flip it immediately before you could activate any spells.
You still win next turn when you draw the last piece, you lose on trying to draw without anything in deck not on having an empty deck.
Or maybe I am getting Yu-Gi-Oh confused with mtg
>konami produces card
>card is considered too powerful
>too lazy to balance game
>ban card
>money stolen
and there are yugiho players that will defend this.
Every card game does this and it's unironically a good thing. A Magic the Gathering designer put it best; if you never make a card that's worth banning you also never take the kind of design risks that are necessary to create interesting cards.
>the card literally reads" Draw 2 cards"
>interesting cards
the interactions the card effect allows for is what makes it interesting in this case
homie, the only interesting case it has is that it gives you a +1 which was not as detrimental in the time it was banned compared to now.
its the subject of the thread bro.
it was probably more broken then than now tbh. At a single copy it’s not like it would make or break any FTKs and all the modern meta decks are mega consistent anyways, while older formats your resources (in hand) matter more than some sort of limited engine resource and resolving one of the FUN cards could instantly swing the game in your favor
goddamn it, you make a good point, i hate this game
frick you, just for the sake of it.
Yeah and it's not like there aren't situational pots that, while generally worse, still do what you want and aren't breaking the game. Actually I lied ban prosp thank you, also desires just because it is rigged against me.
If it werent an interesting card you wouldnt have gotten owned so hard holy shit lmao
If it weren't an interesting card it wouldn't be the subject of a thread.
If it weren't an interesting card we wouldn't be talking about it right now.
stolen
>paying money for cardboard
LMAO
This 5head e-girl is in serious need of banlist correction.
That's intentional.
They make bullshit cards, let them stomp for a bit, then ban them and make more bullshit cards, let them stomp for a bit, then ban them.
If they're feeling sneaky they will make bullshit cards that require old shit cards to stomp and then ban the old shit cards to achieve the same effect without it being blatantly obvious they're just money hungry israelites.
>unironically a good thing
lmao
>too lazy to balance game
LOL, LMAO, even.
No they print broken shit on purpose to make more money, then since the shit they made is too good, they straight up ban it since they can't print erratas every other month.
See tear, see ishizu, see bystials etc etc etc
>chain droll
response?
Can someone tell me which is the last game with uncensored art?
I was playing a DS Japanese one and the art was censored
What's he forbidden from?
saying Black person
subway
Ahem...
You would lose because ash is hopt?
what does that blue card do that makes you want that many copies of it
What's stopping me from doing this and losing turn 1?
Just play modern dark world, basically the same thing
Using Pot of Greed, you couldn't lose by deck out until your next draw phase or you were forced to draw a card by the opponent, so it wouldn't be turn 1. You can't activate Pot of Greed if you don't have at least two cards left in your deck.
chain droll 🙂
realistically, can toon world, blue eyes, dark magician or any of the OG archetypes even work on modern yugioh?
Every shitter on Master Duel is running Dark Magician
yeah, in fact blue eyes and dark magician get a ton of love in the modern game, just dont expect it to win any tournaments.
>Toon world
No, but it did have a stint of playability. Against some decks Toon Kingdom is a huge b***h though.
>Blue Eyes
The deck won Worlds in 2016 but has largely been left behind. It still sees some play as a rogue strategy.
>Dark Magician
Not as bad as toons but still a rogue strategy at best. Has gotten some really unbelievable modern support but having to actually play The Dark Magician as your central card hurts it. Can set up a pseudo-lock with Eternal Soul (Prevents cards named Dark Magician from being effected by other cards) and Dark Magician the Dragon Knight (Prevents spell/trap cards from being destroyed, is Dark Magician).
Believe it or not Konami constantly releases new cards for boomer strategies. Gate Guardian and Flame Swordsman just got modern support, and the official simulator has Dark Magician and Blue Eyes structure decks.
Dark magician has some of the most custom fricking cards ever printed and it still sucks because a lot of their game plan requires multi-part set up for soul + circle.
Yup. The worst thing about Dark Magician is that you have to play Dark Magician. And more than that your whole strategy revolves around searching and repeatedly summoning a level 7 normal monster. Just look at how SPYRAL abuses Magician's Souls to see how these cards would look like in a competent strategy.
Could a Yugioh deck and Magic deck battle against each other?
honestly never really thought about trying
maybe throw some trainer bill's in there for good measure
if you keep all powers as is, yugioh would probably win in terms of creatures and magic in terms of spells
How would you standardize damage values? If a yugioh monster battles a magic creature what happens?
very simple
1600/1000>2/2
That seems like the least confusing thing there would be. I don't know how you would do resources, or a lack thereof, since yugioh doesn't have any mana system letting modern decks just set up turn 1 fairly consistently. Even a pretty mediocre deck can off a single card make a gigantic body that will one shot you on their first turn.
>match starts
>regardless of whos turn it is, Yugioh player reveals a hand-trap that does burn damage
>instantly wins
it would just be like the Master Duel 2024 event.
If the yugioh player bricks hard then the magic player could potentially pull off an infinite damage combo and win, though. Only really viable if it's a no ban list game however
that's gotta so disheartening for the opp
yeah you'd really have to figure out how to convert yugioh damage to magic values and vice versa for this to be even remotely fair
That's easy.
Every 400 damage is the equivalent to 1 damage in Magic.
Since 8000 divided by 400 is 20.
Then all you have to do is just round anything not divisible by 400 to the nearest whole number.
Blue-Eyes gets rounded to being the equivalent to being an 8/6.
If you scaled the life/damage numbers to match up, it's either the YGO player goes first and has a turn 1 win, or the MTG player gets a land down and it's GG since MTG is so disruptive and reactive.
If we're including boomer mtg then they won't even need the land.
>since MTG is so disruptive and reactive
homie they have one mana on turn one. Unless they drew every Force of Will in their deck their turn one disruptions are going to be no worse than an ash blossom or barron de fluer.
You're thinking about YGO strats too much.
The 1 MTG mana is going to bounce/flicker your key piece while you have combo on the stack.
Any modern yugioh deck can play through any one piece getting negated or banished or flickered or destroyed.
The problem here is that any interruption you're imaging a Magic deck can do after one turn of setup, a yugioh deck could also do but like five times instead of just the once, MAYBE twice the magic deck could pull off.
Really, the only hope the magic deck has at all is if it's a no ban list battle and they just do an infinite damage combo on turn one using black lotus. Otherwise mana is just too hard of a limit.
Fundamentally, Magic is a game where you start weak and get stronger and Yugioh is a game where you're as strong as you'll ever be on turn one.
Can't beat chalice on 0 your cards are all CMC 0.
If you're going to logically interpret the rules as they're written beyond their intended scope, like by treating Yugioh cards as CMC 0, then you should also only be considering spell cards as being spells. Yugioh monster summoning and monster effects are NOT spells so they wouldn't be limited by most magic floodgates.
On a core thematic level, Magic's setting is that the "cards" represent "magical spells you use to summon a monster" but yugioh cards literally represent the actual monster itself. They're not spells, they're just monsters.
So, Chalice would just be equivalent to Imperial Order. An annoying floodgate but not unbeatable.
You can easily play Omniscience turn 1 in mtg.
Not in any real mode
Legacy
>Ancient Tomb
>Lotus Petal
>Show and Tell
>board 4x leyline of the void and 4x leyline of sanctity
>mull for them
ez pz all ygo decks defeated on turn 0
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I dont know shit about either of these games but the yugioh player clearly threw.
What's the most useless and convoluted way to lose in a single turn?
You play Flower Cardians
I love that card, it's a great frick you.
Last turn and losing somehow?
Crutch stats are like Troyan Horses
Only effective the first time, easily countered the second time.
>magic player has 20 hp
>average yugioh card deals damage in the thousands
it wouldnt be impossible, but from my general knowledge of yugioh players as a magic player, I think they would quickly turn violent out of frustration because magic is a shit game made to piss you off.
>Yugioh player goes first
>Sets up the equivalent of 4 Counterspells and puts about 10,000 damage on board
>Magic player places a normal land and casts Orkish Bowmasters
>Since every Magic creature is a spell, the Yugioh player just counters it
>Attacks for lethal next turn
I LOVE NEGATING MY OPPONENT'S CARD EFFECTS WITHOUT READING THEM
>Be 2009-2013
>Be me
>Buy Arcana force deck
>Carry around a half dollar coin just for it
>loudly let coin clatter every fricking turn, multiple times a turn
>watch them slowly melt down as my turns become longer and longer with more coin flips
>play not to win but to stall them and maximize coin flips
Good times.
its a matter of whoever goes first tbh, magic can also win consistently in one turn with some legacy decks
Well if it's the unlimited format of both games then I think Yugioh still takes it just because the strongest ever deck from Yugioh can actually semi-consistently resist FTKs going second.
its not FTK, its literally just wining the game, there is a deck that can mill your entire deck and you win
Lab Man hasn't seen even a smidgen of play ever since they printed Thoracle, what a fricking mistake that card was
>what if lab man except cheaper and also impossible to respond to and also wins the game on the spot instead of needing to untap
Pretty much sums up all card design since BfZ
What stops me from pushing all you nerds down and taking all your cards or I'll make you eat a knuckle sandwich, huh?
The smell
You wouldn't be the first violent thieving Black to try
fairly certain every black yugioh player stole their cards from someone
you could make a lot of money if you robbed the right people, but remember that TCG players are pretty special. the dudes that taught me magic back innaday who I played with almost daily for a few years, were also unassuming, drug dealing thugs who've hurt people for less.
Didn't they just release an equivalent on Duel Links?
>not just tearing up your opponent's cards
ngmi
>not just pissing on your opponent and hitting him with your chair
ngmi
>tfw all of my RL nerdy friends from my high school days were heavily into either MTG or yugioh
>I still haven't got a lick of sense on how the fricking game works despite knowing about it for nearly my entire life and watching the first four series on 4kidz when I was a kid
multiple things
that said Exodia is a legitimately viable kitchen table deck
Make every extra deck monster limited to 1 by default
Make every card effect a hard once per turn by default
There, I fixed your game
What's the best Tag Team?
Me like 5ds, i want a datesim and sort feel like playing yugioh lately.
Tag Force 3 if you care about GX and Tag Force 6 if you care more about 5Ds
I think Tag Force V special has a fan translation.
No flirting with rose girl though.
Unless it got a new translation the fan translation of V special is really fricking bad. The type of shit fanslation that's filled with dog shit memes.
The ones with Alexis because they have Alexis in them
the actual games are whatever besides getting to date you're waifu
There are YGO games with dating????
Never played tag force? It's honestly whatever besides having the dating sim shit but it is there
Actually I have played Tag Force but I guess I never got far enough to realize there is dating in it?
Tag Force games usually have a few routes with vague or explicit romantic undertones, but there's never been a true Yugioh dating sim unfortunately. Konami isn't brave enough to go through with it.
Yeah bro. Sorry, but I already took them all.
I miss having sexy girls in our anime and having games that let us date them. Now it's just flat moe blobs.
The tag force games were kinda shit besides letting me force feed Alexis sandwiches until she liked me though.
Yeah but I really liked the concept. It was nice.
the more interesting question is how would (Yami) Yugi stop this? Assume it's a KC-run tournament and Kaiba is fully aware but interested in seeing how it plays out so no DQ saving him
Same way he did against the guy playing the fake Exodia cards. He'd activate Lightforce Sword and win before the piece he sniped returned to the hand.
What're some of your favourite 'bad' cards?
I liked Dark Magician... not all his support, just the Dark Magician, even if Summoned Skull is just better.
She's the cutest one so I will play her even if she is shit.
You fool, you can only play three of any card.
Instead, make a deck of only five cards.
Yeah and start with all 5 in play while we're at it
Almost there lads
THAT'S WHAT IT DO YUGI
>guess who
are you a b***h?
Yu-Gi-Oh is for fajts
>The virgin forbidden limited list vs the chad cheater
Some homosexual made this exact deck in Master Duel. Except it used a few Graceful Charity in place of some Pots.
As typical, Konami's security is shit.
All those chuds that complain about yugioh being too hard is because THEY JUST RELY ON "HEART OF THE CARDS" schizo shit when it's suppose to be ABOUT STRATEGY AND MANAGING PROBABILITIES.
Here is the cold, hard truth about trading card games:
TCG's are legitimated only fun when played in video game form against CPU's, and I'm being 100% serious.
That's the only way you'll be able to play the TCG with non-meta decks that use interesting strategies.
Why are you scared of competition, pussy?
Specifically for YGO, I haven't played it in a long time and seeing all the new shit and strategies where you can OTKO is annoying. People don't really play for fun, either, they play to win, even if it's just an online game with no ranking. It's just not fun. Every deck has near the same cards Maxx C or wahtever being one of them. It's hard to find people who just want to play strategies that you don't really see.
If you want people playing unusual decks you have to go to DL, and even there people only play shit other than the latest metaslop because it's so expensive to build a new deck. I guarantee you if you could build a new deck there as easy as you can in MD people would just play the meta.
>why won't anyone play with my meta deck i spent a fortune on that no one can realistically win against that plays the same every single time?
That or with a group of friends who are all casuals.
But that's a hard find.
Used to play MTG in high school, super casual most of us just bought fat packs and played with those. Couple people got the idea to start buying decks online, spending anywhere from $30-50 so it wasn't too bad. Then one dickhead bought some $300 eldrazi deck that was nearly impossible to beat with our trash, everyone quit in 2 days.
I actually somewhat agree with this because the amount of actual time it takes for someone to go through combo lines in Yugioh is fricking moronic and boring.
>they play their starter card
>proceed to do literally the exact same identical combo line the deck always does for the next five minutes ending on the same endboard the deck always end on
I can only stand to sit through this shit so many times.
I play Yu-Gi-Oh!, Dragon Ball Super, and Shadowverse Evolve with three different friends and it's always a good time. Then again, none of them frick around with meta decks.
I agree but I would even apply that to all multiplayer games, because otherwise you're an the mercy of a matchmaking algorithm, the infinite treadmill. Bots in singleplayer feel better to beat because you're making your way through the content of the game with an end goal in sight.
Although it is possible to make a game with an infinite treadmill of bots, and it would be as shit as meaningless as multiplayer I'm sure. Anyone who spends 5000 hours playing a matchmaking algorithm is a moron. (why didn't you just divide that 5000 hours amongst 500 unique video games?)
>draw two cards
Just draw two cards. That's all it does. Somehow this is gamebreakingly powerful and needs to be banned from official contests.
It combos things that trigger off spell activation and cycles your deck for free. Learn the basics of card games.
Drawing is always incredibly powerful in card games.
For free, this card basically shrinks your deck down to 37 cards instead of 40, increasing consistency and bringing you closer to your kill conditions. It gives you 2 turns worth of additional options over your opponent. It makes you more handsome too.
>t. never played a card game
He calls tournaments contests, of course he doesn't.
for some reason playing a card game has caused me to become severely injured
The real reason Konami limits draw cards so much but is happy to print archetype searchers that go insanely plus is because they're scared of Exodia being meta. Turn one kill decks being viable is worst case scenario. Three pot of greed would make Exodia FTK way too consistent.
There are turn one kill decks already.
Every deck is a one turn kill deck but there aren't a lot of turn one kill decks.
yeah, but they're not consistent through hand traps. Otherwise they would be winning every YCS, and they're not. There's a reason all the Exodia pieces are on the limited list.
No its because they don't want to devalue pot-but-worse cards that people pay 100 dollars per copy of and buy tons of boosters to try to pull them
Pot of Greed only makes unplayable hands playable and Good Hands better.
Either an avoidance of scooping/sitting there while your opponent combos off while you can't do anything or a "win more" card. It is legitimately not the gamebreaking card people think it is.
Anybody who says otherwise is probably just a Youtuber or a Youtuber sheep.
Pot of greed at 1 would be fine. It doesn't and shouldn't come back as it wouldn't make the game better for it but it wouldn't really break shit further either. Frankly prosperity is better anyway if you can't run more than 1 greed. Digging 6 deep and getting your one card combo or the perfect out is way more valuable than just 2 unknown cards in the modern game.
I like your post, but I wish you weren't Indian, so I fixed it.
>Play Digimon card game
>Dude has a deck with a card that says "you may have 50 copies of this card in your deck inatead of the 3-limit"
>His deck is actually 40 fricking copies and the other 10 allow you to play these which combo themselves into playing more
>20 fricking cards on his area by turn 2
like, the new one?
Yeah that one, and it's super hard to brick because everything makes you draw cards and you really need just 1 of the 10 cards to start the chain.
1 thing I dislike about Digimon is that the way you win is anticlimactic, just attack directly when the opponent has no shields, and you're always allowed to attack directly regardless of how strong the digimon is, so you spawn a million weak mons and have them die attacking instead of evolving into the cool huge ones you DNA combine and stuff.
Rats, rats, we're the rats
We prey at night, we stalk at night, we're the rats
>Mekanorimon
Oh no, how scary to have a bunch of weenies.
A lot of b***h made posters ITT
>Destroys 2 cards from your hand before you even have a chance to respond
Why is this fricking deck legal
1. you have to open both cooclock and furniture (or one of them plus Arianne)
2. the current top decks love having their cards destroyed
3. T1 Lovely plays are absurdly vulnerable to Ash Blossom. Good job going -2 to end up with a 0/0 dumbass.
>Destroys 2 cards from your hand
you make this sound like it's a bad thing
>2 card combo that dies to ash, imperm, and several other hand traps leaving you negative
>most modern meta decks love having half their deck in the grave anyway, so it's a crapshoot if it doesn't backfire
I loved the yu-gi-oh DS games other than the moronic motorcycle stuff
you will join us, you will love the links, the links make the duel, the links make us
The rules already say no more than 3 of any 1 card and pot of greed is completely banned on top of that, as an aside you are also restricted to one of each piece of exodia
I'm not gonna sugar coat it.
If you only liked yugioh for 2 years 20 years ago, you were a fad chaser, a poser, and a 4th rate duelist.
This. Playground yugioh was never real and this concept that the game was so much better when it was set Man Eater Bug pass is just moronic. There's almost no reason to play Yugioh over Magic until 2008, and Yugioh having a ton of complex combos is what makes it unique. In a world where every other card game is 3 turns of land pass, Yugioh is all gas from the word go.
I disagree 🙂
Just like any long running game, people who say they miss "old Yugioh" actually just mean they miss playing games with random pile decks and not knowing what was good
what are the good singleplayer yugioh games that actually play like the card game i've only played the psx, war of the roses, and one of the gba games
Spirit Caller
Just play Legacy of the Duelist Link Evolution. It's a singleplayer sim that lets you open packs and play through duels from the anime. PROTIP: Use cheat engine to speedhack the game, it's kinda slow otherwise.
Legacy of the Duelist.
It pretty much goes through the anime story giving you anime decks. It's fun to see new mechanics slowly added as you play.
your opening hand leaves the deck with an odd number of cards, so if you have one piece on the exact bottom you'll run out as you draw the last piece. Pretty sure that's a loss.
>want to play Yu-Gi-Oh! irl with irl cards
>can't
>reason: Solid Vision Dueling System does not exist
>have both eyes
>not rich
>not even fabulous
>never even been to ancient egypt
>can't ask some punk ass rich kid to make Solid Vision a reality literally because of this
>no Yugi boy to challenge to a duel either
>only choice is to wait for a Yu-Gi-Oh! VR Dueling Game
I keep hoping Musk and Zuck decide boxing is gay and invent real duel disks for their pissing contest instead.
I can't go back from Master Duel. It's insane to me how sterile and unsatisfying the UI for previous YuGiOh games looked. We really decided this was a good enough way to look at the game
No we fricking didn't. LotD looks like dogshit compared to previous YGO games, ESPECIALLY the Tag Force games.
I talked mad shit about LotD's UI when it came out.
Whats the best psp emulator to play tagforce on?
>running 5 1-ofs
This deck has SHIT consistency. Try out an actually well built deck before you try making your own.
The rules of the game
I just want to say this franchise was worth it for 5Ds part 1
First of all, what does that green card even do
Limits on the amount of cards. You could make an Exodia deck that is nothing but drawing cards via Royal Magical Library, but it would be hard to pull off in the current meta. It is also time consuming.
>drawing exodia deck
LAMEEE
If you want an actual funny OP deck in unlimited format try
>anime Relay Soul + Majespecter Kirin
Anime relay soul states: You CANNOT lose the duel unless the monster summoned is destroyed, not if it leaves the field
>kirin bounces to hand
>opponent must destroy that specific copy in your hand
>no matter what your opponent can't win because if they did it means you would lose which you can't do
Or
>anime Drawber + D Hero Dark Angel
Anime dark angel puts itself on top of your opponents deck, Drawber makes your opponent shuffle all of their cards if you correctly guess the card on top of their deck
Densely Packed Delt- i mean Kuribohs.
>has a lot of interesting and meta decks with games that last more than 4 turns in your path
This is where all of your shitposters miss the mark. I play Yugioh BECAUSE it's broken and stupid as shit, not in spite of it. Posts like these are like telling an MvC2 player that they should pick up Samurai Shodown to get rid of all the pesky infinites
Whats to stop me forcing you to shake my hand right after I rubbed my smelly wiener?
Someone actually tried this, made their hand as grody as possible and then played Yu-Jo so the opponent would either have to shake their hand or forfeit. Konami declared that you only have to agree to the "idea of the handshake" and that's the official ruling now.
Technically, Sexual Assault charges. Unwanted Physical Contact is Sexual Assault, even if your little card game is trying to force sportsmanship.
Yugiboomers are the worst "fans" of any franchise. Like Pokemon genwunners but ten times more obnoxious.
At least Pokemon games are still somewhat playable even if all the new Pokemon look like shit. Yugioh isn't.
>stopping me to do
Is stopping me from doing
I blame XYZ era for everything wrong with the game kappa
I went first and did the same thing >:^)
*does this but legally in your path*
>his/her hand
what the frick this is broken as shit
exodia on turn 0
>Muh Spanishtard
>"C" Maxx