What's the appeal of ARPG games? The combat is just mmo combat but with even worse animations, the story and roleplay are nonexistent and the OST is usually mediocre at best.
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What's the appeal of ARPG games?
Dopamine hits from good loot drops.
Hitting a power spike and clearing a screen in like 3 seconds with one ability
Dopamine hits from looking at your newly cleaned kitchen.
emptying the sink and washing the pots in like 15 minutes. getting to enjoy a kitchen that doesnt stink
My kitchen is always clean because I have a dishwasher
okay, then go clean your bathroom
I have shitwasher also
Why not both?
You're incapable of time management if you can't accomplish both.
Either that or you're a moron who takes 4 hours to do something as clean a kitchen.
my kitchen doesn't have a sexy pajeeta sorceress in it
Lut Golain is the best Act Kurast is the second best
Kurast was dogshit and slows the game down.
Kurast is soul and d2 would've been worse without it.
Harrogath numbah one!
i hate kurast, i always stop playing by then
the forests are boring, and the later half with the cities gets much better, no more little tribe shits
the games are for dumbass neckbeards avoiding their personal responsibilities while getting the feeling like theyre accomplishing something.
arpg gameplay is as unfun as cleaning your house, folding laundry, and washing dishes.
so the time you spend grinding your "toon" would have been better spent cleaning your room.
they cater to the lowest denominator. always have
For me is looking as my character progression. Go from a guy with a swords and 4 potions to a guy welding the might of gods surrounded by legion of hell. Most RPG usually don't let you fight that many enemies at once.
Chain Reactions
Progression
Complexity
Gay Sex
they're comfy
it's fun gearing towards a particular build and finally getting a unique that you've been hunting for, same with runes and what have you. although I never got the endgame stage of the later ones, it's mind numbingly boring just running rifts or whatever you call them just getting slightly higher numbers. I just usually make a new character and start again since it's the progression that's fun, not the endless grind; admittedly that seems counter intuitive for someone playing arpgs but hopefully you get what I mean
>grinding endless alts totally btfos grinding endless rifts dood like fr...................
b-b-brain damaged!
sorry just got a zod rune I'll reply to you in a bit
Aw jeez wow. jeez. friggin sweet man. like. what did you trade for it? AHaHhahaha.....
dumb nerd.
nah ssf kurast runs :^)
Oh yeah I got a *burps* bot program for that.
are you the real rick and Morty do you play Diablo 2 what's your main ..
I'm just a freindly neighborhood Diablo 3 endless rift enjoyer. after all nothing matters lifes pointless and god doesn't exist.
>All ARPGs are the same
D2 and Ys OiF aren't even similar despite being early 2000s isometric ARPGs, maybe broaden your net a bit before jumping to conclusions.
Is there anything that can stop Adol's adventurelust?
Classic Adol? Nothing. Modern Adol? Slaps from c**ty tsunderes, apparently.
By ARPG you mean lootclicker shit right?
yeah. actual "Action" RPG =/= ARPG
It's fun making and playing cool builds and finding all the cool interactions between different skills, passives and special item properties.
I've never played an "ARPG" because the gameplay I've seen looks absolutely ridiculous. You speedrun around the map with all sorts of effects popping off around you with a bunch of loot pets running after you while swarms of enemies get smashed like flies. What even is this?
Like drugs and gambling they are addictive.
"People" who plays JRPGs, MMOs, gacha, TCGs, clickers, Diablo clones and the rest of Skinner boxes deserve to be bullied for it 24/7 until they develop basic criteria and standards.
>The combat is just mmo combat
In diablo-clone Arpgs you swing once and 10 enemies on the screen die.
In mmorpgs you slap one Ice Squirrel of Doom for 10 seconds with all of your abilities, while trying to avoid aggroing any adjacent Ice Squirrels of Doom.
the appeal in d2 for me was trading
and gambling (runewords, perfect items)
i lived for the fg
b***h did you just imply Diablo II has a mediocre OST?
>What's the appeal of ARPG games?
loot autism, skinner box addicts.
>diablo 2 specifically
the world was dangerous enough that completing stuff on hell is typically an achievement in itself, or it was until people solved the game and figured out the specific builds needed on specific classes to do specific areas that give highest lvl drops.
you were born too late to experience Diablo 2 at its peak. Just give it up. You will never know what made people fall in love with this game because the game doesn't exist anymore. Nowadays ARPGs are just seasonal dopamine farms.
>Nowadays ARPGs are just seasonal dopamine farms.
when were they ever different
2000-2004. Diablo 2 only started introducing ladder seasons in 1.10. It's kind of ironic how D2 was the pinnacle of the genre, yet at the same time invented the very thing that would ruin this genre forever.
and how was it not a dopamine farm
It wasn't centered around constant dopamine hits. There were no loot explosions. The game had an actual online community playing the game because it was fun. See
diablo was a slot machine disgused as an RPG right from the very start, there was never any skill involved, you just click on dudes and see if you get lucky
loot was just one aspect of the game. The game had many other things going for it. The economy was incredible. I probably spent more time trading in D2 than I spent trying to farm items. If you were smart you could trade your way up from rags to riches without ever doing any mf runs at all. Just starting off with something like a pul rune. It was its own mini game basically, the single most complex economy simulator in video game history apart from maybe Runescape. I also loved the fact that the game had a very active casual pvp community. Nothing was more fun to me than joining an open lobby PVP game and just fricking around with other players. That was before all the bullshit 1 shot builds existed and before synergies, so you could have actual fun pvping. D2 was a truly one of a kind experience and to reduce it to "muh slot machine" basically just proves that you never actually played it other than the shell of its former self that you can currently play.
so it's a slot machine and a trading simulator, it still fails at the "video game" part
Here's a shocker. WoW was D2 but better.
*mic drops*
>no concept of realtime control at all
>in any way d2
>in any way better
you kids who grew up on wow don't get that we made fun of your game as a "soccer mom game"
you were playing the most normie, generic, entry-level vidya that ever existed and you worship it as this central element of your childhood
whereas actual gamers like me grew up on apple iie, nes, neo geo, to playstation, all that shit.
it's frankly pathetic to talk like you have any idea about video games if WoW was a major part of your life.
ageism is pathetic, you aren't cool because you're older than someone else
it has nothing to do with age it has to do with you thinking wow was in any way a good or significant game
it brought down the level of what a video game was, permanently. it was seen as a game for fat middle aged women
if youre this wow glory days worshipper look up the concept of reminiscence bump. congratulations. thats why wow was so good.
Alright then post your epic gamer 3x3.
dont have one..wouldnt be relevant to the conversation anyway. you dont have to like the same games as me
but wow doesnt even have realtime combat how is it better d2? just lol
>wow doesn't have real time combat
are you clueless or do you have your own definition of "real time combat?"
I agree but only if you say to get to Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring was the point. I also found out about Rune and played it with my WoW friends and we didn’t bother moving to Diablo at all. When Diablo 2 came out around StarCraft, I remember looking at it and thinking the graphics looked AWFUL. Apparently they got a lot of people hooked on a god awful looking game that call it “amazing visuals” lol wtf.
I had this other WoW friend that was into Diablo 2 and he really wanted me to try it, I also had a friend in high school who was into it, so it made it want to try it, but eventually it was all replaced with pic related.
Try to finish the game with a sorc on hardcore and then say that again
Most ARPGs can be played as normal games where you're done after killing the final boss.
It was mostly the multiplayer aspect for me. I mean, as much as Blizzard talks about how D4 is basically a mmo-lite, it actually feels lonely as frick and like there is no active community whatsoever. It's in stark contrast to how D2 used to be. Hundreds of open lobby games at any time, people playing through the acts together, doing random xp grinds, open trading lobbies, pvp games etc. D2 back in the early 00s was a very unique experience that not many other games could provide.
Also the items felt like they had a real value to them, mainly due to the fact that everything was trade-able and that there was such a strong community driven trading economy.
>What's the appeal of ARPG games?
number go up me happy
Die by the Sword and Rune are still better PC games than Diablo. They just didn’t age very well and hard to get running again in the future. Well, rune not so much, but die by the sword never had very good gameplay because it was an experimental fighting action rpg that was never popular but still succeeded. Sadly there still exist webpages talking about how to run die by the sword that are now outdated and don’t work. Gog even still sells a non-working die by the sword which should really not be legal. They are selling broken games and should have to fix it like steam.
And if you try to tell gog they just ban you and say you are a hateful racist because you didn’t support black wing lair raids.
I wonder why Russia gamers haven’t complained about gog yet, they only complain about steam.
Comparing Die by the Sword to Diablo is like comparing apples to automobiles
They are still action rpgs. One just happens to be closer to first person and therefore more 3D and better PC game.
die by the sword is an action adventure game
diablo is a skinner box with a light rpg flavour
calling either of them action RPGs is incorrect
they're fun a crazy concept I know
Adderall addicts find them entertaining
>diablo
>mediocre at best OST
worst opinions of all time being posted itt
>appeal
there isn't one, except for a tiny group of autists who really REALLY love killing same mobs for gorillion times for a miniscule upgrade.
Oh and the JOKE of calling it an RPG when they have ZERO rpg elements in them, just mindless kill 20 beasts in one swing no brain "action"
>What's the appeal of ARPG games?
They are perfect for when you find yourself in a "Im too bored to play a videogame but I want to play a videogame nonetheless" situations since they dont really require much brainpower to play them or when you just want to see numbers/stats go up.
waste your life
which is better, diablo 2 or grim dawn?
d2 by a mile. uncontestable height of the genre.
Grim dawn for my money. Diablo was the best in the series. I wish people would make Diablo likes instead of just aping D2
Diablo 3 for my mile.
>find a unique at lv 15
>its whatever
>find the same exact unique at lv 70
>its stats are now massive and bloated
What a fricking dogshit system
>equip item set
,47538987653% damage increase
that's the good shit
Isometric 2d games are beautiful. That's all I need. RTS, RPG, Sims, it doesn't matter because the visuals are so appealing.
You had to be there anon.
Honestly as a kid playing a shitload of diablo I remember having dreams where I was stuck in the lower levels of a dungeon where everything is an opressive pitch black full of the screams and howls of a myriad of demons and monsters lurking just on the otherside of the pool of light from your torch.
There was also exactly as much story as was required to justify your dungeon crawl to the literal pits of hell.
If you're talking about Diablo 2 then you're 100% correct. Diablo 4 is actually good however.